North Carolina–yes, North Carolina–edges Georgia Tech in ACC Coastal

 In just six short years (1995-2000) Butch Davis built a national championship program at Miami but left for the NFL before he could really enjoy the fruits of his labor.

He exited Coral Gables after the 2000 season (one in which he should have played for the national championship but got squeezed out by Florida State, a team Miami beat in the regular season) to take a big money offer from the Cleveland Browns. But on the way out he told a friend that he was leaving “at least one national championship” and maybe more behind in Miami.

Davis was right. In 2001 Miami won the national championship under Larry Coker and in 2002 was favored to repeat with a team that was stocked full of NFL draft choices. The Hurricanes lost in double overtime to Ohio State in the BCS championship game, played at the Fiesta Bowl.

The point is, Davis knows what a very good college football team is supposed to look like and he knows how to recruit great players. So when North Carolina hired him on Nov. 13, 2006 it was with the expectation that Davis would eventually be able to stockpile enough talent to get the Tar Heels back into the race for the ACC championship, which they haven’t won since 1980.

North Carolina’s ACC title drought in football will finally come to an end in 2010 as the Tar Heels will win the Coastal Division and beat Florida State to win its first conference championship in 30 years.

 “We have a good group of veteran players who know they might have an opportunity to do something special,” said Davis.

Yes, I know. A lot of people are going to pick Virginia Tech to not only win the ACC title, but to compete for the BCS championship as well. I know I’m going against the grain of conventional wisdom here because the Hokies are going to be absolutely loaded on offense. Bud Foster is one of the best defensive coordinators of this generation but I just see too many holes in the wrong places on that side of the ball. And did we mention the Virginia Tech schedule? The Hokies open with Boise State, a consensus top five pick in the preseason. They also have back-to-back-to-back games with Georgia Tech (Nov. 4), at North Carolina (Nov. 13), and at Miami (Nov. 20). That’s tough.

In fact, I’ve got Georgia Tech finishing ahead of Virginia Tech. The Yellow Jackets, the defending ACC champs, lost four NFL draft choices (two on each side of the ball) but the offense will be good as long as quarterback Joshua Nesbitt stays healthy. And if Al Groh’s new 3-4 defense jells early and Tech can win at North Carolina on Sept. 18, the Jackets will be in the hunt at the end.

I could be completely wrong here but hey, it’s May. A lot can happen between now and August. But for now, here is our Spring review of the ACC Coastal:

 

1. NORTH CAROLINA

**–Last season: 8-5, 4-4 ACC; lost to Pittsburgh 19-17 in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

**–Coach: Butch Davis, 71-38 in nine years, 20-18 in three years at North Carolina.

**–Key losses: DT Cam Thomas, DE E.J. Wilson, OT Kyle Jolly.

**–Returning starters: Offense 10, defense 9, specialist 2.

**–Players to watch: DT Marvin Austin, S Deunta Williams, LB Quan Sturdivant, DE Robert Quinn.

**–What we learned: The Tar Heels are loaded with NFL players on defense. Nine starters return from a unit that led the ACC (269.62 ypg) and intercepted 19 passes and returned them for 508 yards—an ACC record. Seven of the returning nine players have started 22 or more games in their careers. “If we can find some depth and certain positions we have a chance to have a pretty solid defense,” said Davis. Davis is actually being modest as North Carolina could have the best defense in all of college football. North Carolina is also due to win the close games this season. Of five losses in 2009, three were by a combined total of six points: Florida State (30-27), N.C. State (28-27), and Pittsburgh (19-17).

**–What we still don’t know: Can quarterback T.J. Yates hold on to his job? Yates, a senior from Marietta (Pope H.S.) has started 31 games at North Carolina but the last two seasons have been marked by injury and inconsistency. He came under significant criticism last season when he threw for 2,136 yards with 14 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. Redshirt freshman Bryn Renner showed arm strength and athleticism this spring. Yates is going to start the first game of the season against LSU at the Georgia Dome, but if he struggles, Tar Heel fans are going to start clamoring for the talented newcomer. “T.J. has so much experience and he has learned that he doesn’t have to put the offense on his shoulders,” Davis said. “It is a long season and we have to have more than one quarterback who can win a game for us.” Yates is going to be under a lot of pressure because good quarterback play—or the lack of it—is the one thing that could keep North Carolina from having a big season.

**–Opening game: Sept. 4 vs. LSU (Georgia Dome, Atlanta).

 

 

2. GEORGIA TECH

**–Last season: 11-3, 7-1 ACC; beat Clemson 39-34 in ACC championship game; lost to Iowa 24-14 in Orange Bowl.

**–Coach: Paul Johnson, 127-46 in 13 years, 20-7 in two years at Georgia Tech.

**–Key losses: RB Jonathan Dwyer, DE Derrick Morgan, S Morgan Burnette, WR Demaryius Thomas.

**–Returning starters: Offense 7, defense 8, specialist 2.                                           

**–Players to watch: QB Joshua Nesbitt, RB Anthony Allen, CB Jerrad Tarrant, LB Brad Jefferson.            

**–What we learned:  Georgia Tech now has a defensive identity. The fact is Georgia Tech tried a lot of different things on defense last season to the point where players were confused and uncertain. That has changed with the arrival of new coordinator Al Groh. Groh, who has been the head coach at Wake Forest, Virginia and the New York Jets, installed a 3-4 defense that will allow Georgia Tech to be more aggressive. Georgia Tech has a clear identity with Paul Johnson’s offense and now it will be the same on defense. The Yellow Jackets will now recruit to this system. “I think it is a simpler system that allows guys to just go play,” said Johnson. “We’ve got some good athletes on that side of the ball. I like what I saw over there.”

**–What we still don’t know: Georgia Tech lost four difference makers—Dwyer, Morgan, Burnette, and Thomas—to the NFL Draft. Can the Yellow Jackets replace that big-play potential? Morgan and Thomas were taken in the first round. Dwyer, the 2008 ACC offensive player of the year, fell to the sixth round but has first or second round talent. Burnette was a very underrated safety. Johnson believes that the program has recruited well enough to absorb the losses. Last season, Johnson recalled, the experts said that Georgia Tech would take a dip because it would everybody’s second look at the option offense. Tech won the ACC championship.  “I think we’ve got some other good players,” he said. “We’ve got 15 starters back from our team that won the league. We’re not ready to throw in the towel; we’re going to still show up. Those guys were good players and (now) somebody else will have an opportunity.”

**–Opening game: Sept. 4 vs. S.C. State.

 

 

3. VIRGINIA TECH

**–Last season: 10-3, 6-2 ACC; beat Tennessee 37-14 in Chick-fil-A Bowl.

**–Coach: Frank Beamer, 229-115-4 in 29 years, 187-92-2 in 23 years at Virginia Tech.

**–Key losses: TE Greg Boone, OT Ed Wang, DE Jason Worilds, FS Kam Chancellor, DT Cordarrow Thompson.

**–Returning starters:  Offense 8, defense 5, specialist 2.

**–Players to watch: RB Ryan Williams, RB Darren Evans, QB Tyrod Taylor, WR Jarrett Boykin.

**–What we learned: The Hokies are loaded on offense. Let’s start at the running back position, where Virginia Tech has an embarrassment of riches. Sophomore Ryan Williams became the first freshman to ever lead the ACC in rushing (1,655 yards) and scoring (22 touchdowns) last season. He was the All-ACC running back and was easily the choice for the conference rookie of the year. But the reason Williams got a shot last season was that Darren Evans, the 2008 rookie of the year, was injured and sat out the season. Now both are back. And there are some incredibly talented runners waiting in the wings like David Wilson and Tony Gregory so Beamer will probably redshirt a running back who could start for any other team in the conference. Tyrod Taylor, who led the ACC in passing efficiency, is back for his senior season. WR Jarrett Boykin averaged 20.9 yards per catch last season. If a couple of new starters can be found on the offensive line, this has a chance to be Beamer’s best offense since Michael Vick led the Hokies to the national championship game in 1999.

**–What we still don’t know: By the standards of defensive coordinator Bud Foster, 2009 was an average year. The Hokies finished second in the ACC behind North Carolina in total defense and No. 12 nationally. There are some major holes to be filled as six starters are gone, including both defensive ends (Jason Worilds, Nekos Brown), a really good outside linebacker in Cody Grimm, and a free safety (Kam Chancellor) who started 41 career games and was basically the quarterback of the defense. “This is going to be the first time in a long time that we’ve had to replace so many starters up front,” Foster said. “We’re going to be as young this year as we’ve been in a long, long time. There are a lot of question marks.” Some of those questions need to be answered soon because the Hokies open the 2010 season on Sept. 6 against Boise State at FedEx Field in Landover, Md. Boise State returns 21 of 22 starters from a team that went 14-0 last season and beat TCU in the Fiesta Bowl. Beamer, being the special teams guru, is worried about finding a new punter and placekicker.

**–Opening game: Sept. 6 vs. Boise State, FedEx Field, Landover, Md.

 

4. MIAMI

**–Last season:  9-4, 5-3 ACC; lost to Wisconsin 20-14 in Champs Sports Bowl.

**–Coach: Randy Shannon, 21-17 in three seasons at Miami.                    

**–Key losses: RB Jevarris James, OT Jason Fox, LB Darryl Sharpton, CB Sam Shields.

**–Returning starters: Offense 6, defense 8, specialist 2.

**–Players to watch: QB Jacory Harris, LB Sean Spence, RB Graig Cooper, CB Brandon Harris.

**–What we learned: The ‘Canes look like they are finally ready to break out. Miami went 9-4 last season against a very difficult schedule. But there was the nagging sense that the Hurricanes could have been even better. Shannon said recently that this was the best spring Miami has had since he became head coach in 2007. Part of that was because the Hurricanes finally have enough depth to have competition at almost every position. Quarterback Jacory Harris, who is set to begin his third season, sat out the spring while he recovered from an injury to this throwing hand. Shannon said on an ACC coaches’s call on April 21 that Harris would be back to throwing “within the next two weeks.” Harris suffered the hand injury on Nov. 14 against North Carolina and played the final three games wearing a brace. This schedule, by the way, is still ridiculous with non-conference trips to Ohio State (the Big Ten favorite) and Pittsburgh (a favorite to win the Big East) in September.

**–What we still don’t know: Who is going to be the featured running back? Jarvarris James (492 yards) is gone and Graig Cooper (Miami’s leading rusher with 695 yards) suffered a severe knee injury in the Champs Sports Bowl last December. His status for the 2010 is still uncertain but Cooper’s rehab, which is supposed to take 4-6 months, is ahead of schedule. Shannon spent the spring looking at four candidates: Damien Berry, Storm Johnson, Mike James, and Lamar Miller (who is the fastest back on the team). No one, Shannon said recently, separated themselves from the pack during spring practice but it looks like Berry,   a senior who had 616 yards last season despite not seeing action until the fifth game, will be the starter. Shannon has also said that he wants his defense to be “a little nastier” this season. Can the Hurricanes, who were fifth in the ACC in total defense (329.62 ypg), give Shannon his wish? They can with more players like Allen Bailey (Sapelo, Ga.), who can play end or tackle and will be an All-American this season, and LB Sean Spence, who is set for a big junior year after injuries limited him to 10 games in 2009.

**–Opening game:  Sept. 2 vs. Florida A&M.

 

5. DUKE

**–Last season: 5-7, 3-5 ACC. 

**–Coach:  David Cutcliffe, 53-44 in nine years, 9-15 in two seasons at Duke.

**–Key losses: QB Thaddeus Lewis, DT Vince Oghobasse, LB Vincent Rey.

**–Returning starters: Offense 9, defense 6, specialist 2.           

**–Players to watch: QB Sean Renfree,  OT Kyle Hill, C Bryan Morgan, WR Donovan Varner.

**–What we learned: Sean Renfree will replace Thaddeus Lewis (46 career starts) at quarterback but Renfree missed spring practice while he recovered from knee surgery. Renfree did participate in 7-on-7 drills, however. “Sean was actually able to do more than we thought he would be able to do and that was a position,” Cutcliffe said.  Cutcliffe, however, had a couple of young, talented quarterbacks to work with during the spring in redshirt freshman Sean Schroeder and true freshman Brandon Connette, who enrolled last January. Another talented quarterback, Anthony Boone, arrives this summer. Connette, from Corona, Calif., was very impressive this spring, said Cutlciffe. “I like our athleticism at quarterback,” Cutcliffe said. “These are maybe four guys who are as talented as I’ve been around at any one time in a program. They are just young.” The good news for all the quarterbacks is that four of five starters return on the offensive line and two of them, C Bryan Morgan (25 career starts) and tackle Kyle Hill (24 career starts) will push for post-season honors. Duke also returns a 1,000-yard receiver in Donovan Varner, who led the ACC with 65 catches.

**–What we still don’t know: Can Duke overcome its youth, especially on defense? When Duke gathers in August to begin preseason practice, 54 of its 83 scholarship players will be freshmen or sophomores. Nine of Duke’s 14 defensive linemen will be freshmen. “We are much faster and more athletic on defense but we are a whole lot younger,” said Cutcliffe. “Between graduating some good players (DT Vince Oghobaase had 44 career starts) and dismissing some others, we’re going to be in a position where we really have to grow quickly there.” Cutcliffe has reassigned some duties on his defensive coaching staff and DC Marion Hobby, the former Tennessee defensive tackle, will be calling more of the signals.

**–Opening game: Sept. 4 vs. Elon.

 

6. VIRGINIA

**–Last season: 3-9, 2-6 ACC.

**–Coach: Mike London, 24-5 in two seasons, first season at Virginia.

**–Key losses: CB Chris Cook, WR Vic Hall, OT Will Barker.

**–Returning starters: Offense 6, defense 6, specialist 2.

**–Players to watch:  CB Ras-I Dowling, LB Steve Greer, QB Marc Verica, DE Matt Conrath.

**–What we learned: Mike London has a lot of work to do but the defense has a chance to be decent. London, a former assistant at Virginia, won a Division I-AA national championship at Richmond in 2008 before returning to Charlottesville to replace the departed Al Groh for this season. London earned his stripes as a defensive coordinator at Virginia (2006-07) and if the Cavaliers are going to be at all competitive in 2010, the defense will have to carry the load.  London installed a 4-3 defense, replacing the 3-4 which was favored by Groh, now the defensive coordinator at Georgia Tech.

**–What we still don’t know:  Who are going to be the playmakers? Wide receiver Kris Burd (31 catches) is back but after that the pickings seem pretty slim from a unit that finished dead last in the ACC in total offense and scoring offense. Fifth-year senior Mark Verica threw for over 2,000 yards in nine starts in 2008 and appears to be the likely replacement at quarterback for Jameel Sewell. There are two freshman quarterbacks, Ross Metheny and Michael Strauss, who got a good look in the spring.  Verica has experience (he completed 63.8 percent of his passes in 2008 but also had 16 interceptions) but didn’t help himself by completing only 8 of 23 passes with two interceptions in the spring game. We also don’t know who the starting running back will be. Right now it appears to be sophomore Torrey Mack, the leading returning rusher who had 73 yards last season. There isn’t a whole lot to get excited about on the offensive side of the ball. This season has a chance to be pretty ugly for the Cavaliers.

**–Opening game: Sept. 4 vs. Richmond.

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324 comments Add your comment

P-Man

May 6th, 2010
8:28 am

ACC is going to be wide open this year!

Worm

May 6th, 2010
8:32 am

I wouldn’t bet on North Carolina..They already have a QB battle and getting beat in the dome by Ellis Shoe will not help in the opener..VT,Tech and then NC..NC is still a year away.

juvenal

May 6th, 2010
8:32 am

QB play will determine this div…

Old School

May 6th, 2010
8:34 am

Interesting picks. Like you say, things could change. Will be interesting to see how you view the races in your picks just prior to the season come August. So, Tony, if things pan out as you predict in May, where do you see the Tar Heels, FSU, Tech, and Clemson in the national rankings come mid-December. Hey, I know making predictions about 4 months beore the first kickoff, much less 6 1/2 months from now.

Ormewood

May 6th, 2010
8:39 am

Worm, NC is not a year away. They will have huge graduation and early entry (Quinn) losses after this season. I’m not saying they’re going to be elite this year, but there’s a much stronger chance this year than next. The schedule, while very difficult, helps too. They get both Techs at home. Next year, they will be a 6-8 win team.

m

May 6th, 2010
8:40 am

There is nothing worse than some sec homer gomer trying to act like he knows something about ACC football.

You are totally underestimating Paul Johnson. Jackets roll again. Mark it down.

And, as always, Thank God and Greyhound that gomer gailey, the worst coach in history, is gone forever.

Fat American

May 6th, 2010
8:40 am

Tony, Virginia Tech Third??? Not so fast my friend! I can’t wait to see VT destroy Boise State!

MMA is stupid

May 6th, 2010
8:43 am

ACC Coastal….ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Wow

May 6th, 2010
8:45 am

GT IS IRRLEVANT!!! The ACC is Irrlevant!!

MMA is stupid

May 6th, 2010
8:48 am

Hey m is back. Nice to see you crawled out of your mom’s basement to spew the same old boring crap.

You will get beat again this November in Athens…mark that down.

Charlie Bama

May 6th, 2010
8:51 am

Davis’ best friend in the race to the ACC [wet and cold] championship game in December is, well . . . . the rest of the ACC. The ACC will present a lot of “gimmes” to UNC this season, well within a club’s grip length of the hole (no parallel with the Charlotte stadium intended). That said, I’m not convinced the Tar Heels can win an ACC champ match-up with Clemson, FSU or whoever from whatever that other division is called.

Alphare

May 6th, 2010
8:56 am

If NC plays Tech with a short week’s preparation, they will be toast.

Tech has good offense. If Tech’s defense improves, Tech will be my favorite to win ACC again.

Coach Al G. is the key.

Captbob

May 6th, 2010
8:58 am

Don’t think N.C. has the QB play to win the Division Tony. Va. Tech looks like the winner this year, Bud Foster ALWAYS has a good defense and their offense is loaded! Can Ga. Tech find a big play receiver to take Thomas place, and can the new defense improve over last years dismal performance?

Jacket Backer

May 6th, 2010
9:05 am

i wouldn’t give up on GT just yet……that said, VT is the team that scares me more than the others, and we have to play them up there…..can’t wait for the fall……its gonna be fun!!

Go Jackets!!!

JB

May 6th, 2010
9:13 am

I’m a Dawg fan but my take on Tech is they will always be well coached with Johnson but they did lose some key players and i know Tech has a depth problem…by that I mean i know they have 85 players, but are they front line ACC capable. They will be good this year thanks to Johnson, but I don’t see them winning 11 games. i say 8, maybe 9.

DawginLex

May 6th, 2010
9:21 am

m comes out of hibernaton after the 30-24 run it down your throat beatdown at the bobby dodd cesspool.

what were some of those predictions again?

56-18 nerds?
UGA might not score?
Tech won’t need their kicker since they will score so many TD’s, a FG wont be needed.

Tony,

VT is going to win this division. GT will finish second and UNC 3rd. GT will lose to VT at VT and either to UNC on the road or Miami at home and to UGA. 9-3 with 2 ACC losses.

Boise State will lose to VT in the opener. LSU/UNC will be a great game and if LSU were to lose, Miles head is closer to the chopping block and off to Ann Arbor in 2011.

SimpleDawg

May 6th, 2010
9:25 am

Early season fireworks may not determine who’s really good and who’s not, but they will sure make for some very interesting conversation.

Look for LSU to beat UNC in the CFA Game…..UNC will need a few games to get their sea legs.

Va Tech should outscore Boise State, but a Va Tech loss will send an early shock through the ACC.

The ACC looks to have several teams who would be a tough game for anyone, depending on match ups….UNC, FSU, VT, GIT, and maybe Clemson and Miami.

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
9:26 am

TB, i have to disagree with you on this big time. Nc has a terrible offense and Yates stinks and so is their play calling plain and simple! We saw what tech did last year a 24-7 win in atlanta and i expect tech will improve on defense by large! If the defense steps up and Groh does what he is capable of, this team will lay the hammer on some people. I think the winner of Gt and Vt wins the ACC. Miami will lose 5 games this year, mark it down! UNC will finish 3rd. I don’t know who will win the GT,VT game but that will be the one who takes this cake. CPJ is an elite coach and i expect this offense to roll this season. Hill is a 6-4 wr with 4.4 speed on the edge, and a ton of weapons in the backfield. Sleep on tech all you want guys, we bring home another ACC title this year! Nesbitt will throw and rush for over 1,000 yards again and i expect a nice season from him. Pick your poison with our backfield, it’s stocked all over and we won’t miss a beat pounding the ground game! I can’t wait until athens to be those flea bags 2 straight in their own backyard and i hope we ruin the hedges again and then you can let the whining begin! Ugay will suck this year also as they play a pathetic schedule and will still lose to usc,ark,fl, auburn and tech. Yep, another trip to shreveport with top ten recruiting classes! Great to be a yellow jacket!!!!!

THWG (((((2009 ACC CHAMPIONS)))))))

Lowcountry Bulldawg

May 6th, 2010
9:31 am

Tony,

You really need to do a story on Robert Quinn. The young man is a incredible student, and in High School was a HS State wrestling champ. Had his Senior season ended w/ a Brain tumor and at initially didnt even know if he would be able to play football again, much less at this high of a level.

His parents are of modest finances, his mother and a bother were employee’s of a fast food restuarant. This young man has worked so hard to get back to were he was and he had his family right by his side.

He is truly an inspiration to alot of college football fans. A side note is in the fact that he was High School teammate with Carlos Dunlap, perhaps a more gifted athlete, but who did not have the self motivation the Robert has displayed thus far.

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
9:38 am

Boise state gets drummed by VT and i agree that UNC will fall to LSU, The tigers are tough in the dome. Expect a low scoring game and close. I think UNC will lose a heartbreaker to LSU. The big 4 in the coastal can compete with anyone, and i think miami will push ohio state, but i will go with the home team in the end. However, OSU does not want to overlook harris at qb. The guy is talented but is up and down. He played great vs tech last year, but our defense gave him an hour to sit back and throw all night. I don’t think OSU will let that happen. ACC has a shot to earn alot of respect this season. We will see how this plays out.

THWG

XpatHeel

May 6th, 2010
9:45 am

Tony, you finally got it right. Heels have a perfect storm schedule, get an open date extra week to prep for GT and get them at home; and get VT at home. The Offense everybody wants to rag on was decimated by injuries last yr., esp. the O-line. You’ll see a different result this year, and expect to see Renner early. He’s the real deal. It’s going to be hard not to predict the Heels take it all when the D is going to be throwing shut outs.
And btw, the top 4 from the Coastal would give fits to anybody in the sec.

Angus

May 6th, 2010
9:45 am

I suppose the top four in the Coastal are fairly close, but picking UNC to win it?

I wouldn’t bet on UNC until they actually do something.

UNC, the last 4 years in the ACC: 2-6, 3-5, 4-4, 4-4.

They’ve yet to break .500 under Davis and even lost to UVA last year (yikes!).

Jake

May 6th, 2010
9:50 am

Tony, I thought you moved from Greensboro to Atlanta to avoid the ACC, but being a College Football writer, I fully understand.

mdk222

May 6th, 2010
9:55 am

I like to see someone pick a team besides VT Tony, but I’m going to have to disagree with you. GT will win the division and the title once again this season. Out of the 4 players we lost to the NFL, Morgan will be the only one we truly miss. Our secondary is plenty deep enough to replace Burnett. Stephen Hill will step up and replace Bay Bay no problem. And Anthony Allen will do fine as a replacement for Dwyer at B-back. If the 3-4 defense can take root and give our offense enough room to work with we’ll be fine and the only game I see us losing is at VT. Other than that this team is rolling this year.

DP

May 6th, 2010
10:09 am

The UNC-LSU and Va Tech-Boise State games early are huge if the ACC wants to get back on the BCS map. They’ve got to win at least one of those or the league’s credibility is out the window for another year.

DP

May 6th, 2010
10:11 am

m, you sort of disappeared after middle of the pack SEC teams Georgia and South Carolina ran it down the throats of ACC championship game participants Georgia Tech and Clemson.

UGAY in the Papa Johns Bowl

May 6th, 2010
10:12 am

GT all the way- THAT WAS AWSOME!

UGAY in the Papa Johns Bowl

May 6th, 2010
10:13 am

Gordon

May 6th, 2010
10:13 am

UNC will get demolished by LSU in Atlanta and then they will fold just like Butch’s Miami teams were know for doing after being punched in the face. The Coastal winner will once again be the winner of the VT vs. GT match up, just like it has been ever year since the ACC expansion.

Brownsub Player

May 6th, 2010
10:14 am

The Miami Hurricanes will win the ACC and compete for the BCS Championship. The Tar Heels have a good defense but their offense is terrible. V. Tech has lots of holes to fill on both lines of scrimage and the NFL loses will hurt GT bad. Miami has the most balance team of the big 4 in the ACC Coastal and we will be battle tested before ACC play starts. Miami had 6 turnovers against UNC and still made a game out of it. This year we have them at home and there will be no turnovers. Miami will beat them by 14 easily. Miami was the only team to dominate GT last year. We shut GT down. 95 yars rushing and we have the blueprint to do it again. Miami has VT at home and we will edge them out on the scoreboard. GO CANES!!! 2010 ACC Champs.

VTizzle

May 6th, 2010
10:14 am

Hey Mr. Barnhart, Who in the world is Codaro Thompson? That name has never been on a VT roster. I can see how you think our defense could struggle, but you just contradicted yourself with “Bud Foster is one of the best defensive coordinators of this generation”. Look, I get it… our front 7 is young, but we can reload just like you’re saying GT will on both offense and defense. Please explain this theory…

How is Georgia Tech > Virginia Tech when they play in Lane Stadium this year?

HugoStiglitz

May 6th, 2010
10:25 am

These are decent picks. It could go this way. The ACC coastal is so loaded that pretty much anything could happen.

RomeDawg

May 6th, 2010
10:31 am

Being honest, the ACC is second rate compared to the SEC. It’s hard to get fired up about a conference that might put a team in the top 10. What a joke. The ACC reminds me of the WAC. A couple of OK teams, but never any great ones. I do agree that UNC is the dark horse team but if I were betting I would put my money on VT. Tech will go back to being a 7 win team just like when Gailey was there. Does anyone else think Paul Johnson resembles a California Raisin? You know you’re fat when your nose has a fat wrinkle on it.

Tony Barnhart

May 6th, 2010
10:34 am

VTizzle, you’re right. Codaro Thompson was not on the roster but CORDARROW Thompson was, as you know. He started 27 games and was a free agent NFL Draft pick. My apologies for writing his name incorrectly.

TB

Dave in San Diego

May 6th, 2010
10:38 am

Am I crazy for always expecting VT to win the ACC Coastal until they’re mathematically eliminated? And even then checking my math? The Hokies have been the least bad team in the ACC almost every year since the Big East raid, and even after last year it’s hard to believe that will not be the case.

Delbert D.

May 6th, 2010
10:40 am

I really didn’t see much in North Carolina last year. They will very likely finish ahead of Virginia and Duke, but I can’t see them taking down VT, GT and Miami. Tech’s time of possession last year was 42 minutes against UNC. Tech got 24 points in those 42 minutes, and UNC got 7 in their 18 minutes.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
10:41 am

GT was better than VT the past two years, VTizzle. The only reason VT won two years ago was because of that horrible helmet to helmet call on 3rd & 13. We pretty much drilled y’all in 2009 and Bud Foster’s vaunted D couldn’t stop our high school offense (not that anyone really did).

asunc

May 6th, 2010
10:43 am

Gordon I don’t think you’re quite accurate with that “fold just like Butch’s Miami teams were know for doing after being punched in the face” business. Last year, after a 3-0 start Carolina lost 3 of their next 4 culminating in a punch in the face by FSU on a Thursday night in Chapel Hill. They then proceeded to go to Blacksburg and beat Virginia Tech the very next game and start a 4 game win streak.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
10:45 am

RomeDawg, the ACC is hardly second rate. Comparing it to the WAC just shows how stupid you are.

Dawgboy

May 6th, 2010
10:57 am

Enjoy the waning years of the ACC because when expansion comes along that conference is going to get ravaged.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
11:02 am

Tony. Doesn’t really matter. Tech will lay their proverbial annual egg on November 27th. At least Miami will get a boost from the UNC fan base. I heard the Orange Bowl and Miami COC cringed last year when they learned tech would be representing the a she she.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
11:04 am

Dan

May 6th, 2010
10:45 am
RomeDawg, the ACC is hardly second rate. Comparing it to the WAC just shows how stupid you are.

You tell’em Dan. tech reminds me a lot more of the teams in region 7 AAAAA with that high school offense pee jay runs.

wesleywhatwhat

May 6th, 2010
11:06 am

lol. north carolina???

stick to SEC football, tony.

Let's play Bama now

May 6th, 2010
11:08 am

I realize it won’t be easy winning on the road, GT at: Clemson, VT, UNC, Wake(looking for revenge), Kansas, UGA…but the Jackets will be the ultimate road warriors and do some serious road kill to their opponents. UNC-ain’t happening. I realize GT lost at Chapel Hill two years ago but CPJ will ensure that won’t happen again.

BTW, I find it comical that UGAY’s answer to not being ranked in Sports Illustrated’s top 25 was that SI doesn’t know them. Well SI sure knew you two years ago when they preranked you number one and put you on the cover only to make fools out of them and yourselves. hahahahahahhahahah

Dan

May 6th, 2010
11:12 am

That high school offense has averaged 35 a game against UGA, HBTB.

wesleywhatwhat

May 6th, 2010
11:16 am

the winner of the GT/VT game has gone on to win the ACC coastal division and the ACC championship the past 3 years.

i have yet to hear a convincing argument that the same thing won’t happen in 2010.

Let's play Bama now

May 6th, 2010
11:20 am

you know I also have to laugh at you dogpoops on here. Before each opponent last year, the poop doggy dogs would always comment that so and so is too good and GT can’t win. Then we would win and the poops would say “oh they weren’t any good anyway” …One of many things GT has done right over the years is not allowed Miami to win the Coastal and that says alot. The Canes have yet to do that which I find comical since everyone thought they would be the dominant team. I was in Miami in 2005 for the game when the Canes were ranked 3rd in the country and heading to the BCS only to be upset by GT 14-10. There were comments from the players in the Miami newspaper before the game that said they didn’t even know what conference this was much less who GT is. Now it is 2010, GT has beat them four out of 5 times and Miami still has not won the Coastal. Larry Coker ultimately had to step down because of not beating GT and getting the job done. You cannot make that up. Of course now, the dogpoops mouth off that Miami isn’t any good. The ACC Coastal division has got your punk @ss SEC East division beat hands down. You know for such a powerful and almighty SEC east division that you think you are, only FL is ranked by SI.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
11:21 am

Dan. Like I said, it reminds me of Region 7, AAAAA.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
11:25 am

Then explain why y’all seem to have so much trouble stopping it, HBTB.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
11:28 am

Dan. Welcome back to earth. Our former DC was woefully inadequate.

Mikey

May 6th, 2010
11:30 am

Who gives a rip.

Dismantle the ACC and move FSU, Miami, GT and Clemson into the SEC

Move VA Tech and UVA into the Big 10 or Conference USA
Move Maryland and Boston College into the Big East along with Duke, Wake, UNC and NC St.

Now, the issue of non attendance at the ACCCG is solved.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
11:31 am

Happy Meal included with ticket purchase. D-Rad looks like he really knocked himself out on this year’s home schedule.

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Brian

May 6th, 2010
11:35 am

This is the toughest division in all of college football. Four teams will show up in the top 25 throughout the fall and depending on the breaks all of them have the ability to play for the Orange Bowl berth presented by TBA. I’m never betting against a staff with Johnson and Groh (Oh and I’m a huge homer too).

GT: will have to solidify the D to take advantage of Joshua running the show on the other side of the ball. Will a WR step up to make plays like BayBay did last year (Clemson part 1 for instance).

UNC: this team hangs squarely on the shoulders of Yates. The D will be there. The offensive playcalling is puzzling at times for this team. I’m sure John Chavis will be ready in the Dome.

VT: come back to earth a bit in the division as the defense has to grow some this year. Teams will make TT throw the ball to beat them and I’m not sure he can do that all year long.

UM: I still feel like this team lacks an identity between the discipline of Shannon and the swagger of The U. Mark Whipple is a good OC, but this team will have let downs throughout the year.

Duke: they are young and unfortunately will be better everywhere except the record and defensive line (Renfree is going to be solid). Hope they can take care of non conference games they should win this year.

UVA:Gonna be a long year for the Hoo’s and new coach London. He has got to get more playmakers into the system on offense and find positions for some of the tweeners that don’t fit directly into his 4-3.

McDawg

May 6th, 2010
11:36 am

its just really difficult for me to take a football team seriously that sports baby blue uniforms

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
11:36 am

just look at the schedules…tech could be 2-4 or 3-3 after the first 6 games with wins aginst south carolina st and Kansas and losses against North Carolina , north carolina st ,wake forest and virgina where they have just as much talent or more at every position than you guys do and with only 1 good player on your high school offense back there and a very weak defense, tech is in deep trouble…the Next 6 games are even harder. tech could finish up the year going 2-4 or 1-5 if duke sneaks a win from you wich they easily could. so that would make your final record 4-8 or 5-7 at best. the reason for the big drop off is that gailys NFL players are gone and thus your team is left with nesbit and about 20 or so div 1aa players to run that high school offense up against some off the better div 1a defenses in the acc…look foward to reading you techies post of how bad you guys need another coach asap about half way into the season..

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ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
11:39 am

oh..and the acc is far from the best in college football much less this division..haha..funny though..its only tough for you guys because every team in tha division is weak..

XpatHeel

May 6th, 2010
11:40 am

It’s May 6, 2010 for all you $ec freaks who continue to look backward…guess that should be expected.
Since Davis arrived, the Heels have yet to lose to Miami. They toughed out losing 4 of 5 O-linemen and the #1 RB but went into Blacksburg and beat the Hokies. When Uga lost a few Olinemen to injury, the faithful whined and moaned. The Heels rebounded.
Your strategy to pick winners based off last years results is brilliant. Take that to vegas.
Take away ‘bama and UF and the rest of the $ec would be toss up picks to beat any of the top 6 in the acc. You’ve got door mats; we’ve got door mats. But put the top teams on the field THIS YEAR and you’ve got pick’em games.

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
11:43 am

brian,,right now every team in your div except vir or duke maybe have better players than you right now or at least equal..problem is tech runs a high shcool offense and now with all but 2 div 1aa players runnig the show, they will have their hands full with the other teams defences who have div 1a players lining up against techs smaller and weaker players..they will be on nesbitt and allen in a flash to disrupt anything tech will try and do. and wiht no passing game to help out..look for tech to go 5-7 at best this year

McDawg

May 6th, 2010
11:43 am

Baby Blue is almost as bad as yellow

HugoStiglitz

May 6th, 2010
11:44 am

lol. I love reading delusional posters like ATL XMAN. Yeah, GT is going to lose to WF, VA, and NCst and then go 4-8. How much would you really be willing to bet on that happening?

William Casey

May 6th, 2010
11:45 am

So tired of the “high school offense” slur. It attempts to insult Georgia Tech/Paul Johnson and does insult thousands of good high school coaches. GT’s offense was SECOND IN THE NATION in rushing. That speaks for itself.

Bob K

May 6th, 2010
11:45 am

UNC always loses two or three games it shouldn’t. Nothing changes this year. How many bubble screens will we see again? They might have 9 future NFL’ers on thier defense, but they have to score to win. Those 9 NFL’ers got whipped at GT last year and lost to UVA, a team that couldn’t score at an Asian Spa.

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
11:46 am

xpat..you guys play in the acc where most of your players can carry the sec players jocks..uga played with freshmen and still went 10-3 that year..the heels should of won the div last year insteadthey laid a big egg and let tech win it…

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
11:46 am

should of read cant carry the sec players jocks

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
11:48 am

as far as taking away fla and ala you cant do that, but if you did that would still leave about 5 teams that would win the acc if they played in that weak acc team filled schedule

William Casey

May 6th, 2010
11:50 am

HBTD: How many football games above the level of pee-wee have you coached? ‘Nuff said.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
11:52 am

McDawg, do you have a problem taking the Tennessee Titans seriously?

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
11:55 am

william..just says that they can put up a ton of yards on the ground which means nothing when you run 95 percent of the time, your team could run aginst uga or iowa or lsu or mia or that jax ville st team either…your offense wont be that good now that gailys players are gone…high school offense is not an insult either just a fact. most high school teams run that offense when they dont have the over all talent to run a pro style offense. in div 1a college teams are suppose to have good enough players to run a more advanced offense thus helping that player to get to the nfl. i think tech is now the only team that runs that offense in div 1a other than a armed force team where the talent is slim pickings. so its easier to say high school offense when talking about techs offense

McDawg

May 6th, 2010
12:00 pm

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:00 pm

William C. Why so defensive? The truth is, 80% of the high schools in Georgia run that offense. Apparently, it works very well in high school and in smaller division college football like the ACC.

None.

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
12:00 pm

hugo…virg beat you guys just two years ago and you had better players then..wake should of beaten you last year but ran out of time and nc st has a better team than you guys this year since most of gailys players are gone..you gyus can 1-2 with the win against a virg team who has a new staff..but even their players are as good as the one your team is putting out there now with a roster full of PJ div 1aa players

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:07 pm

It seemed to work just fine against UGA too, HBTD.

And 8-8 in the League isn’t too bad, McDawg. As a Falcons fan, I would’ve given my right arm for 8-8 seasons some years.

McDawg

May 6th, 2010
12:08 pm

perhaps the addition of 4 dawgs will improve there lot if not there look

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
12:10 pm

dan, last year it didnt and now that tech has lost all but 1 of gailys players look for even worse numbers..look for fumbles to up and yards to go down..you guys might even punt more this year since tech will be facing a ton of 3rd and 8

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:10 pm

That was actually a funny comment, McDawg.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:13 pm

It worked just fine last year against UGA, ATL XMAN. Our defense sucked but you can’t blame the loss on the offense.

And can we please stop moving the goal posts on our offense? Two years ago, all we heard was that it couldn’t work. Last year, everyone was going to catch up to it in its second year. Now, it’s Gailey’s players (who, by the way, UGA fans ridiculed as two star players but now basically call all-world). The fact is the offense works and UGA hasn’t stopped it – and they won’t this year either.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:14 pm

Dan. It’s apparent that you missed the game last year during your space voyage. The dawgs stuffed tech all night long. I think they ended up with just under 200 rushing yards with 50+ carries. Conversely, the Dawgs ran through tech’s defense all night long. The score really didn’t reflect the complete domination and beat down that was issued to tech by the dawgs.

Dawgboy

May 6th, 2010
12:14 pm

And now their greatest football player, Lawrence Taylor is in the lock up (again) for raping a 15 year old. Loserville.

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
12:14 pm

xpat..i meant gardner webb not jax ville st..sorry

wesleywhatwhat

May 6th, 2010
12:18 pm

@ ATL XMAN

since u r so confident in your that GT goes 5-7 this year, let’s make a bet.

if GT goes .500 or less, then u r declared the king of the internet and i won’t post a single comment on an AJC article for a year.

and if GT goes .500 or better in 2010, u will stop posting your retarded comments on AJC blogs for 12 months.

deal? put your money where your mouth is.

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
12:18 pm

dan..tech couldnt move the ball at all last year aginst uga,,they had one big play and it was a pass..im not moving goal post..the only reason the offense was doing that well is because of gailys 4 star players and now with PJ 2 star and div 1aa players the offense will look like,,well high school players playing out there…

HugoStiglitz

May 6th, 2010
12:18 pm

lol. Only UGA fans can claim complete domination from a 6 point win and the other team had a chance to win the game at the end. I guess for you guys that was as close to domination as you got last year.

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
12:20 pm

haha..wesley..deal…i will take that bet no problem. tech will finish no better than .500 and that is reaching a bit.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:20 pm

No they didn’t HBTD. They stopped Dwyer because they had the who defense keying on him. They didn’t stop anything that went to the outside.

The reason we lost the game was because our defense couldn’t stop the run so the weakest link on UGA’s offense, Joe Cox, never had to make a play.

tdebord

May 6th, 2010
12:20 pm

Butch Davis is a great recruiter bu, IMO, an average game day coach. Even with UNC’s outstanding defense I don’t think that will be enough to win the coastal. Butch is always good for screwing up game management along the way, especially 2nd halves.

During the days he had those great Miami players who went on to the NFL, Frank Beamer stilled owned him.

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
12:22 pm

hugo..tech had no chance to win that game…hence the 4 hail mary passes at the end…your running game was stuffed all night. the score only looked like your team had a chance but in reality we all knew tech was done before halftime

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
12:23 pm

dan..you guys didnt run outside hardly at all brother…nesbitt was too busy keeping it…

VTizzle

May 6th, 2010
12:25 pm

Thanks, Mr. Barnhart…

Winner of the Georgia Tech at Virginia Tech game will win the Coastal — per usual. See: ACC’s past few years. This year it favors Virginia Tech. Why?

1) Home field advantage.
2) They lost at Lane Stadium before.
3) Our defense will be far better by that time of the season (November).
4) We have a bye the weekend before the game.
5) GT lost 4 key NFL-ready Chan Gailey players, which VT struggled against.
6) With D. Thomas gone, Bud will not respect the pass AT ALL. Last year in ATL, he did.
7) VT coaches met with the Iowa and UGA coaches over the off-season (both man-handled GT last year).
8) Did I mention it’s Thursday night on ESPN? (Before anyone tries to mention it; GT does NOT have anything near UNC’s defense)

Thanks.

ATL XMAN

May 6th, 2010
12:25 pm

another thing your logest rush of the night on the outside was from your receiver on a reverse…

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:27 pm

Nesbitt kept it some, ATL XMAN. But we did run outside with a lot of success, actually.

And if you call having the ball inside UGA’s 35 with 2 minutes to play not having a chance, so be it. Also, we didn’t throw four bombs at the end of the game. We threw three and had an easy catch by a usually dependable receiver dropped. But don’t let facts get in your way.

HugoStiglitz

May 6th, 2010
12:27 pm

Tech had 205 yds rushing with 2 tds. They also had 135 yds passing with 1 td. Giving up 24 points, 340 yds of offense, 3 tds and never forcing a punt is a pretty weak definition of stuffed. Thats with our most important player getting injured. So yeah, keep touting that incredible defensive performance.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:28 pm

So what’s your point, ATL XMAN?

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:28 pm

Bingo, Hugo.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:29 pm

Here you go Dan.
UGA nerds
NET YARDS RUSHING 339 205
Rushing Attempts 44 51
Average Per Rush 7.7 4.0

BrokeBackJacket

May 6th, 2010
12:30 pm

Hello M…my favorite college football blogger is BACK, and he crawled out from under his rock only 6 months after his fearless as always accurate prediction of Clempson over USCe, FSU over UF, and of course ihe all knowing prediction of the mauling of the DAWGS by his techies!

For all you newbies out there…now that he is back…if M said it….take it to the bank…he knows of what he speaks….right m?????

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:30 pm

Nerds? Are you in the third grade?

Statcat

May 6th, 2010
12:30 pm

Ain’t happening Tony. VT owns the ACC. Even when they stumble they usually finish the highest rated ACC team at the end of the season. Also we wouldn’t even be considering Miami for MNC
in 2000 had Vick not been injured when they played. Remember VT 45 UM 14 in 99 MV’s first
year at qb. More experienced VT team returned for 2000 but lost it’s chance when MV got injured.
Still finished 11-1.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:33 pm

Dan. Doesn’t look much like the # 2 rushing team in the country now does it?? Anyone can run up numbers against the cupcakes of the a she she and other smaller schools like Jax State, Gardner Webb and MTS. However, pee jay might need a different game plan against the Big Dawg.

Reptiles Rule

May 6th, 2010
12:35 pm

Hope Urban never leaves but when/if he did, I would love to see Butch Davis be a prime candidate for the UF job. I think he had the ‘Canes primed to come back for another long run and then Coker won it with Butch’s guys. I like the way he runs the program and he can obviously recruit. Also…is Miami back?? Many people, including myself, remain unconvinced.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:37 pm

Yes Dan. Another development while you were traveling the universe. techies = nerds.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:38 pm

Dude, if you call holding a team to four yards a carry stuffed, then we’ll have to agree to disagree.

I’d say your better argument would be about your offense running the ball on us than your defense “stuffing” us.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:40 pm

Ok, HBTD, recess is over. Fourth period starts at 12:45. Don’t be late or you’ll end up in detention.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:40 pm

Dan. It’s pretty obvious that you did not see the game. Check out CSS with Buck Belue. They replay the game about once a month.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:42 pm

I was at the game, fool. How can you stuff a team without forcing a single effing punt?

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:44 pm

LOL. Interception, turnover on downs, etc. Hope that helps.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:45 pm

Ummm, that hardly qualifies as stuffing a team. Like I said, recess is over moron.

JW

May 6th, 2010
12:47 pm

HBTD

You say ‘nerds’ like it is a pejorative when in reality ‘nerds’ equals:

someone who will make more money than you
someone who is better educated than you
someone who will drive a nicer car than you
someone who will live in a nicer house than you
someone who actually has to worry about the AMT when they file
someone who will probably end up with a better looking wife

so thank you for recognizing your inferiority

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:48 pm

JW, he probably doesn’t know what the AMT is…

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:50 pm

He probably gets it done with his 1040-EZ. And he takes 6 hours to complete it.

HugoStiglitz

May 6th, 2010
12:50 pm

So basically because GT had less then 400 yds rushing in the game UGA fans can claim that as stuffing us? The main reasons we had less yardage was because you guys were running the ball so well controlling the clock, and because Nesbitt was out for a while. It had nothing to do with your defense stuffing us. If you had stuffed us then we might have punted the ball. Iowa forced us to punt 7 times. You guys couldnt do it once.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:50 pm

JW. Let me guess, you’re a nerd?? Pretty easy to pick up on your inferiority complex.

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
12:51 pm

HBTD, IF NEBITT PLAYED ALL 4 QUARTERS, YOU LOSE. THAT SIMPLE. OUR BACKUP CAME IN AND THREW APICK AND YOU GUYS TOOK IT HALF THE FIELD FOR THE SCORE. TAKE OFF THAT 7 ON THE BOARD AND YOU LOSE! 24-23…. NESBITT WOULD HAVE NEVER THROWN THAT JOKE PASS. THOMAS DROPPED A FOR SURE 1ST DOWN WITH A MINUTE AND HALF LEFT AT YOUR 30 AND 2 TIMEOUTS LEFT AND YOU GUYS TALK LIKE IT WASNT CLSOE? WE DOMINATED THE 2ND HALF AND AS LOUSY AS WE PLAYED, STILL SHOULD HAVE WON. YOU GUYS WERE ON PINS AND NEEDLES AT THE END OF THAT GAME AND YOU KNOW IT. I WATCHED IT WITH SOME UGAY FANS AND TRUST ME, THEY EVEN SAID IF THOMAS CATCHES THAT BALL OR NESBITT PLAYS ALL 4 QUARTERS, YOU GUYS LIKELY WOULD HAVE LOST. YOUR JUST LIKE MOST UGAY FANS…UNREALISTIC AND FULL OF IT. WHO ENDED IT RANKED IN THE TOP 15 AND WHO FINISHED 40TH? ENJOY ANOTHER TRIP TO A CRAPPY BOWL, THAT’S WHERE YOU WILL BE HEADED. TECH WINS IN ATHENS 2 STRAIGHT, BANK ON IT!!!

THWG

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:53 pm

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
12:51 pm
HBTD, IF NEBITT PLAYED ALL 4 QUARTERS, YOU LOSE. THAT SIMPLE.

Typical loser comment. LOL.

JW

May 6th, 2010
12:54 pm

Dan

HBTD’s ignorance is bliss for him

he’ll make a good minimal wage employee for one of us one day

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:54 pm

LOL? Are you a teenage girl? If not, you sure write like one…

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:55 pm

Yeah, but the problem is he’ll expect us to pay higher taxes because of his imcompetence. He’s probably a Democrat…

Reality

May 6th, 2010
12:57 pm

First thing first…just ignore HBTD…he is an uneducated UGA grad….uneducated UGA Grad (that’s redundant).

The top 4 teams in the Coastal and FSU could compete and most likely dominate all teams in the SEC except UF and AL. Should be an interesting year.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
12:58 pm

Poor Dan. Looking for some support from JW? You’ve taken a pretty good beating today.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
12:59 pm

I don’t need support from anyone, HBTD. I’m not a Democrat like you.

And as long as facts are of no consequence to you, then you’re right – you really took it to me.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
1:00 pm

OK boys. Thanks for the laughs. I’m going to grab some lunch now, but y’all work yourselves up into another frenzy while I’m out.

JW

May 6th, 2010
1:01 pm

Be sure to clock out HBTD!

Reality

May 6th, 2010
1:02 pm

Back to the fryer HBTD.

Dgator

May 6th, 2010
1:03 pm

Come on, NC has never had a decent team, even their best teams were a joke, it was because the rest of the conference was so weak. More realistic order 1. Miami 2. VT 3. GT 4. NC. Eventually, the rest of the conference is going to figure out how to prepare for GT’s option and you know what happens when teams have a little time to prepare for GT’s option.

JW

May 6th, 2010
1:05 pm

Dgator

What happens? GT wins the confence? Beats UGA on the road when they (uga) had 11 games of film and 2 weeks to prepare?

Reality

May 6th, 2010
1:06 pm

Interesting DGator…considering teams NEVER figured out CPJ’s option at GSU or Navy.

Urban Meyer

May 6th, 2010
1:08 pm

Please help me Dr. Phil!!! I see Saban’s shadow every time I go to my backyard pool to relax from my multi-million dollar job! Can Lassie bring Timmie back home??

Golden Rules

May 6th, 2010
1:11 pm

Seems that the UNC defense is receiving a lot of praise for their preformance last year…funny thing is they decided not to play any against Paul Johnson. Come to think of it CPJ didn’t see too much offense from them either…even against our D…and yet somehow they will win it the division? Sorry Tony…they have yet to prove that they can do it week in and week out.

HugoStiglitz

May 6th, 2010
1:11 pm

Why do I have a feeling that in 10 years we will be hearing everyone say, well next year with ten years experience vs the option offense, everybody will shut GT down. Then GT will put up another 400 yds against everybody.

MJ

May 6th, 2010
1:12 pm

I have any money in the world to bet Barnhardt that Miami does not finish 4th in the ACC Coastal. Along w/ that, GT will be one of the most overrated teams in the country. GT will not even sniff the ACC Championship game.

Reality

May 6th, 2010
1:14 pm

One things for sure MJ, Miami will NOT win at Bobby Dodd stadium this year.

nickj0321

May 6th, 2010
1:15 pm

GT will take the ACC again…VT or Miami will be 2nd and UNC will be 4th. Every year all we hear is how UNC is going to be better and they always suck. Oh yeah and UGA wins 7 games max (thats for all you rednecks on the ACC blog here)

Brunswick Tech

May 6th, 2010
1:18 pm

Tech has improved every year under CPJ. I’ll take tech till the end as well as over UGA in November. I’ll never jump wagon and pull for VT or any one else. Like so many who became Bama lovers last year after their team lost 4. I’m down for the long haul….good or bad. Up with the White and Gold….GO TECH

BigTimeTechFan

May 6th, 2010
1:21 pm

My picks:
1. UNC
2. Va Tech
3. Ga Tech
4. Miami
5. U VA
6. Duke

Very solid division, Va Tech tied with one loss, but UNC wins head to head

XpatHeel

May 6th, 2010
1:28 pm

The Coastal winner will have to come thru Chapel Hill. We get an extra week of prep time for PJ’s tricks, and when that happens, poof goes the option. Look up the results frome ‘09. 28-7 Heels and that was giving away a meaningless 7 in the 4th qtr.
VT is not a lock. They barely got out of C.H. in ‘09, and we beat them on Thurs. nite in Blacksburg…where they “never” lose on Thurs.
Miami has NEVER beaten us since Butch arrived.
GT will be in a hole early…after losing on Sept. 18.
VT on Nov. 13 will be for all the marbles, and both are likely to be ranked in the Top 10.
espn Game Day; Erin lookin’ fine; Nation’s eyes on the ACC. Might as well set your tivo now.

Reality

May 6th, 2010
1:34 pm

Yeah…that UNC-Duke game will be a Barn-burner…

LOL

May 6th, 2010
1:36 pm

“lol. Only UGA fans can claim complete domination from a 6 point win and the other team had a chance to win the game at the end. I guess for you guys that was as close to domination as you got last year.”

Yeah, because we did not hear any talk about 45-42 being utter domination, an a$$ kicking, total destruction, or any of the other crap you Tech fans were saying after 2008. You are a moron Hugo, go play in traffic with your buddy m.

nickj0321

May 6th, 2010
1:37 pm

LOL – go read an article about some more thUGAs getting arrested

LOL

May 6th, 2010
1:40 pm

“he’ll make a good minimal wage employee for one of us one day”

What the hell is a minimal wage employee? Talk about uneducated.

reebok

May 6th, 2010
1:40 pm

ya gotta love Paul Johnson…’we’re not going to throw in the towel…we’ll show up.’ Hilarious…

LOL

May 6th, 2010
1:41 pm

Good one Nick. Does Reuben Houston, Jarrad Tarrant, or Joe Hamilton ring a bell for you genius???

XpatHeel

May 6th, 2010
1:41 pm

Reality, Maybe you can learn remedial reading of schedules when you’re not flippin’ burgers.

Carolina – dook is Nov. 27

Carolina – VT is Nov. 13

nickj0321

May 6th, 2010
1:44 pm

LOL – nice thats 3 total…thUGA has 3 a week it seems. Its sad when you can get more news ab thUGA foorball in the police report than you can through the sports page…why dont you go find Zach and touch some women

nickj0321

May 6th, 2010
1:47 pm

not to mention Tarrant was never convicted of anything

MMA Is IGNORANT!

May 6th, 2010
1:50 pm

IRRLEVANT! (??) ACC is IRRLEVANT…ha, ha, good flaming grief, you ugaggers are the WORST!

I guess you spell DUMBASS with two Ms? Or you spell STUPID with two O’s? You forget to turn on your spellcheck? or is that IRRLEVANT too? You’ve GOT to be one of those types that spell ‘your’ when you mean ‘you’re’ ( as in “you’re a FREAKING IDIOT!”). Hey, the fries are getting cold, and time for you to get back to the cash register…

U

May 6th, 2010
1:50 pm

Miami will leave the Flats with a win. GT finishes 3rd at BEST! Maybe 4th!

Ormewood

May 6th, 2010
1:51 pm

As I recall, the last time GT played in Chapel Hill, UNC also had a week to prepare. The final score was 28-7 and GT did not have a single snap all game inside the red zone.

nickj0321

May 6th, 2010
1:52 pm

icantgetawood – what happened the last time they played…last year?

LOL

May 6th, 2010
1:54 pm

Zach was kicked off our team for even being charged with an assault against a woman. Not convicted, charged. Your boy Tarrant was only suspended because apparently at Tech, assaulting women is ok.

nickj0321

May 6th, 2010
2:02 pm

and like he said Tarrant was never convicted…was Zach…oh yeah, he was…and apparantly CMR knew that or he wouldn;t have kicked him off

nickj0321

May 6th, 2010
2:03 pm

LOL – dude ill be there to pick a #2 with a supersized fry in like 10…make sure its hot please

Laughing at Nick

May 6th, 2010
2:08 pm

Zach was convicted? Really smart guy, can you show me some proof of that?

Good to know you can only afford fast food, must be another one of those GT millionaires we hear so much about.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
2:12 pm

Brian,

You stated that this division is the toughest in all of college football? Wrong. That distinction clearly belongs to the sec west. The SEC west has produced 3 bcs national championships in the last 7 years and might have produced a 4th in 7 years had undefeated AU gotten a shot at the national title game instead of Oklahoma. This ACC division hasn’t even sniffed at a title game berth in 10 years and has all of one bcs bowl victory to its credit but several bcs bowl losses.

The top team over time in this division over the last 5 years has been VT a team which was thrashed last year by Alabama in a game not nearly as close as the 10 pt margin and pounded 48-7 by LSU in 2007. UGA also beat down the hokies several years ago in I believe the sugar bowl when it was moved to atlanta.

The next 3 teams in no particular order of GT, Miami, and UNC are in no way comparable to whatever the sec 2-4 teams would be which depending on someone’s opinion would be either Bama/LSU and AU and Ark. Miami has a great history from the 80s and 90s after 2002 they’ve been mediocre. The canes struggle to get over 50,000 at a game. I know because I’ve been to several cane games. UNC has practically no football history relative to AU or Ark. GT has been good since PJ got there but other than 1 year their success is not comparable to AU or even Ark which has won their division at least 3 times that I can think of.

Also, in the sec west 5 different teams have won the division which is a testament to the depth of the division. I could be mistaken but I believe only 3, maybe 4 teams have won this ACC division.

Last, the 2 cellar dwellars of the sec have certainly done better than UVA and Duke over time. MSU has won the division and gone bowling under Croom and numerous times under Jackie Sherrill. Duke hasn’t gone bowling in the last 20-30 years to my knowledge and if they have its only been once or twice. I’ll also give Ole Miss the nod over UVA. Ole Miss has at least won a national championship and the rebels have posted several 9 and 10 win seasons in the past 10 years. They’ve also won new years day bowls such as the cotton bowl.

My point is not to denigrate this ACC division which does look to be very competitive. Just saying that top to bottom and also in terms of national titles,overall bowl success, and overall winning % the sec west is demonstrably superior.

11-3 GT

May 6th, 2010
2:14 pm

Coach Paul Johnson won two out of three National Championship games at Georgia Southern,
—- Butch Davis can keep dreaming.

………………………………………………..GO JACKETS………….

Geori

May 6th, 2010
2:17 pm

Seriously, Tony??? Butch Davis sucks as a coach. It has taken Butch 3 years to win 20 games, while it has only taken Paul Johnson 2 years.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
2:21 pm

Laughing at Nick – Mettenberger plead guilty to the charges last week. He can’t transfer to Valdosta State because he’s not allowed in Valdosta.

Tide Rising, I think the SEC West will be the best division this year. Y’all are gonna be good, Auburn (much as you might hate to think) should be good if their new QB is ok, Arkansas should be good, and I expect LSU to be tough again if only because they are so talented (their coach won a Nat’l Championship in spite of himself). I actually think MSU will continue to improve too. Ole Miss probably will revert to its usual 6-6 self.

The ACC Coastal is competitive, but admittedly has not been elite the past few years. If UNC can handle LSU, that would be a good start toward closing the gap.

Laughing at Nick

May 6th, 2010
2:23 pm

I stand corrected, thanks Dan.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
2:26 pm

No issue, Laughing at Nick. Hopefully for y’all Murray won’t get hurt this year (and for the kid too).

Ormewood

May 6th, 2010
2:31 pm

Tide Rising,

While true that only two or three teams from ACC Coastal have won the division since divisional play was instituted, only three of the six teams from the SEC East have ever won that division and divisional play has been going on for nearly 20 years.

XpatHeel

May 6th, 2010
2:35 pm

UNC has no history relative to Ark. and Auburn….

All time records…

UNC 2 Ark. 0
UNC 4 Au 2

Most recent wins over both were in Bowl games in ‘95 and ‘2000. For you backward focused sec freaks, there is a look back at our lack of history vs. sec teams.

Oh, while I’m at it, our record vs. the mighty UF Gators…7-2-1; vs. the Fightin chickens of Lil Carolina…34-18-4; vs. ‘bama….0-1 by a blow out of 24-10.

You’ve got your history and NC rings. Given. Not saying you don’t have something to crow about. But putting down the top 6 ACC teams THIS YEAR is a mistake. The balance of power has shifted in case you haven’t noticed. UF and ‘bama are still at the top of the game. But the gap for the rest is not what it used to be.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
2:37 pm

Dan,

yep. I also expect AU to be good assuming their qb performs well. They have a good 23 or 24 man senior class so while depth may be a problem it never hurts to have a senior laden team. Likewise I think MSU will continue to make strides and I fully expect them to win 2 maybe even 3 games that nobody is expecting them to win.

The ACC coastal will be interesting to watch. No clear cut favorite even if UNC does look the best on paper with 19 starters returning. This could be a put up or shut up year for Randy Shannon at Miami. GT lost a lot of good players so it remains to be seen how Tech does but at least they have their returning qb which is always a big plus. VT has won 10 or more games for 6 straight years. Only Texas has also done that. My guess is that any one of these 4 could win the division.

learn something everyday

May 6th, 2010
2:37 pm

reality: “The top 4 teams in the Coastal and FSU could compete and most likely dominate all teams in the SEC except UF and AL. Should be an interesting year. ”

Funny, thats not what happened last year.

Delbert D.

May 6th, 2010
2:37 pm

Juries convict, judges sentence. If there is a guilty plea, there is no jury conviction.

District Attorney J. David Miller said Mettenberger was sentenced to two concurrent 12-month periods of probation under the state’s first-offender act. Miller said Mettenberger also was ordered to pay $2,000 in fines and perform 40 hours of community service, was banished from the city of Valdosta and is to have no contact with the victim.

Miller said the sexual battery counts were the result of Mettenberger grabbing the breasts and touching the buttocks of a woman at a bar in Remerton, Ga., on March 7.

Miller said misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct, obstruction, providing false ID and underage possession of alcohol against Mettenberger were dismissed.

Delbert D.

May 6th, 2010
2:40 pm

The last 3 paragraphs were quoted from ESPN.com.

nickj0321

May 6th, 2010
2:42 pm

Delbert D – same difference – sorry he wasn’t convivted – HE PLEAD GUILTY – any way you look at it he was GUILTY and Tarrant was innocent…enough about thUGA on the ACC board anyways

GT12

May 6th, 2010
2:43 pm

Atl Xman

Ever heard of a run-on sentence? Or are you just stupid?

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
2:47 pm

XpatHeel,

From what I just looked up UNC holds a 2-0 record over Ark but has a losing 1-2 record against Auburn with UNC beating AU 16-10 in the 2001 Peach Bowl and AU beating UNC 47-21 in 1988 and 20-10 in 1987.

You can’t tell a whole lot statistically from just a couple games but overall UNC has an alltime record of 35-65 against the SEC for a winning % of just .36.

The source for all of this is stassen.com

Dan

May 6th, 2010
2:49 pm

Fair enough, Delbert. Ultimately, the effect is the same though (except that the punishment was likely less for the plea than it would have been had he been convicted).

learn something everyday

May 6th, 2010
2:50 pm

So, what is the SEC vs ACC football all-time, head-to-head, football record? Here you go (updated through the 2008 season):

The SEC holds an 255-123-10 (.670) all-time advantage.

In the past 11 years (1998-2008) the SEC leads the ACC in head-to-head games with a 45-36-0 (.556) record.

You don’t really want to add 2009 in there do you?

Hey GT12: Ever hear of an anal retentive english teacher? or are you just a prick with nothing to say so you just focus on gramar errors?

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
2:53 pm

XpatHeel,

Not putting down the acc or your division. It is indeed a very balanced and competitive division and you can make the argument that this year that it would be easier playing in the sec east except for Florida of course then playing in this division.

Just letting Brian know that I consider the sec west to be the best division in football and not this division. Still a competitive division though and even though Duke and UVA are the cellar dwellars to me even they are not teams that you can take for granted.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
2:55 pm

Learn Something, it’s an interesting stat you bring up because it shows that historically, the SEC has been successful against the ACC but that the ACC has closed the gap. I believe the two conferences have split the Peach/Chick-fil-a bowl games the past 16 or 18 years.

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
2:56 pm

Tide Rising….Honestly, Im kind of impressed that anyone knew what teams are in the costal and which are in the atlantic to even be able to attempt to compare one of those divisions as the best in college football. You take a poll of most college football fans and most will never get all the teams right.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
2:58 pm

Tide Rising, I think you can go ahead and take Duke for granted. Y’all should beat them by 8 touchdowns this fall.

And you’re right, the SEC West will be the toughest division in college football this fall. I expect the Big XII South (assuming the conference remains in its current state for the foreseeable future) will close the gap as Tuberville gets things cranking at Texas Tech. The SEC East likely will continue to be dominated by the boys from Gainesville.

Delbert D.

May 6th, 2010
2:59 pm

In Tarrant’s case the charges were dropped.

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
3:01 pm

Why even debate which is the better overall conference? Look at the last 4 national champions. Look at this past years NFL draft. Look at who leads overall attendance among the conferences. Look who brings in the most moeny each year. Look who has their own TV deals with CBS and ESPN. Really…must we continue to go round and round with what is clearly the obvious?

Dan

May 6th, 2010
3:06 pm

KGator79, attendance and money are irrellevant to which conference is toughest. NFL draft picks also don’t tell much either – the ACC has had more first round picks a couple years this decade and most rational people would not suggest that it has been better than the SEC.

National Championships are also deceptive. Using that as your baseline, the Big East would have been the toughest conference several times.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
3:07 pm

Dan,

After La-Monroe I take no one for granted.

I also think the big 12 south is very tough. Baylor is actually a better team and with Tubbs there the division will get even more physical. After we and Ohio State the year before beat up Texas with our running games Mack Brown changed things up this spring and wants to now go away from a more finesse spread type offense to a more physical pound the rock offense. Got to give him credit for adapting.

The weakness of a spread offense to me is that its not fair to your defense. It takes away from the practice and toughness that your defense needs and leaves it less prepared when it goes up against a straight ahead power running football team. JMHO of course but it seems I’ve read that sentiment being echoed a few times lately.

Delbert D.

May 6th, 2010
3:08 pm

Dan – Details on a plea bargain, if there was one, were not made public. What is know is that it was a 1st offense, the other charges were dismissed, no felony, no lengthy and expensive trial.

learn something everyday

May 6th, 2010
3:10 pm

Dan, yeah your catching up, but the gap doesn’t seem to be closed yet. Adding in 2009 may serve to put it in a better persepective.

Also I find it interesting that you and everyone else seems convinced the East will be cominated by gainesville. Urban has proven he’s probably not going to be a long term fixture and his saving grace is gone, South Carolina really only lacks a quarterback to be able to run spurriers mad man system, and UT has enough talent to keep things close, just unproven coach (yeah I know no quarterback either), and I’m not gonna touch UGA, AJC does that enough for me.

Just sayin, i think the florida domination years are wanning… its not really a given anymore anyway.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
3:13 pm

Kgator79,

Nice to impress you with my knowledge of which teams are in what division in the acc but the reality is that I had no clue until reading Tony’s articles. I’m very familiar with all the teams themselves in the acc and I watch them when I can(especially Tech) but for the life of me I can’t ever remember who is in what division and even the name of the division. Coastal is one and I can’t even think of the other.

Its only when I read articles like Tony’s article today that I can remember who is in what division. Doesn’t mean I disrespect the ACC because I do like watching their games for the simple fact that the whole conference is very well balanced. No current superpower teams but no complete cream puffs either so it makes for great competition.

XpatHeel

May 6th, 2010
3:13 pm

Tide, Most sec bloggers live in the past, and to keep the playing field level, I’ve got the ALL time records from the UNC media guide as my resource. Get ready…

Carolina played Auburn 3 times…1892,1898, and 1901 and beat them by an aggreate score of 103 to Zero. That’s 0. Zip in 3 games.

sec West deserves the attention they’ll get. Just repeating…history is gone. What matters is what will happen this season. And this season, there are 6 teams in the ACC who can go toe to toe with the vast majority of sec teams. Let’s look at the results in Dec. and see how the head to head shakes out. I believe the 2 conferences have about 7 or 8 games vs. each other this yr. I’m giving you bama over dook already. The rest will be interesting.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
3:16 pm

Tide, I think you are generally correct about the weakness of the spread. The issue is that most schools just can’t recruit the kind of elite offensive line that is required to run the Bama offense (although Texas certainly could, which makes thier choice of offense confusing) because there aren’t that many kids that can hammer others. The Bama offense is just brutal when it’s clicking.

Delbert, you’re correct but the decision making is clear – he didn’t want to risk a heavier punishment to be found innocent. Plus, he’s an 18 year old kid that made a stupid mistake. We all did stupid stuff when we were that age. He needs to move on with his life and not be put in jail for his error.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
3:21 pm

Learn Something, agreed. I am not suggesting that the ACC is as good top to bottom as the SEC. But it’s not like the ACC is full of girl scout troops.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
3:21 pm

I will say one other thing and I think that most acc and sec fans on here will agree. The chick fil-a bowl has usually been a competitive game lately and I believe Dan was right and that the 2 conferences are split or very close to .500 in this game over the last 16 or 18 years.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
3:31 pm

XpatHeel,

As a Bama fan I love the history of the game since we have a pretty good tradition but I have to admit you did throw me for a loop with 2 games in the 1800s and 1 in 1901. The stassen database only looks at games from 1909 forward so that would explain the difference. As for AU fans I seriously doubt they care much about the relevancy of games played in the 1890s and 1901. In any event I’m still not taking Dook for granted. Bama is very poor historically at covering against teams that are double digit underdogs and La_Monroe is not the only embarrassing upset we’ve had in the past 20 years. There’s been a couple others that I prefer to simply not bring up.

DT

May 6th, 2010
3:36 pm

HugoStiglitz – “lol. Only UGA fans can claim complete domination from a 6 point win and the other team had a chance to win the game at the end. I guess for you guys that was as close to domination as you got last year.”

You guys thought you were National World Dominators when you beat UGA by 3 points 2 years ago. Just shut up NERD! The game this past year was not even close. Can’t wait when UGA hangs 50+ in Athens on that so-called team in November and yes you better get ready for IT!

WE'RE GOIN TO SHREVEPORT AGAIN!

May 6th, 2010
3:37 pm

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
3:37 pm

Dan….When exactly would the big east have been considered the toughest based off of the amount of national titles? The conference has won 2 total. 1991 & 2001 Miami.

Star Trek Rules!

May 6th, 2010
3:40 pm

You’re looking at PJ #1, oneofmost winning coaches n the land. va tech and beamer also in therunning. Then maybe the rest f the bunch. North Carolina #1? No way.

WE'RE GOIN TO SHREVEPORT AGAIN!

May 6th, 2010
3:40 pm

As a crazy Dawg I’ll tell ya….2009 was amazing. We hung our hats on one defining win over Georgia Tech…. and we beat A&M in the Tire Bowl… Can’t stop talkin bout that Tech win neither! It helps dull the pain of losing to Kentucky….

WOHOOOO! GO DAWGS!

2008 Preseason National Champs

atl xmen

May 6th, 2010
3:40 pm

dan…tech didnt have the ball inside teh 35..your boy dropped the ball inside the 35 and just because you had the ball with less than 3 min to go doesnt mean you had a chance. the way techs offense is you would need the ball with 8 min to go for a chance to win. your team has no passing game and when a team like tech has only 3 min to go to score the go ahead td thats like uga having the ball with 30 seconds to go. your team had no timeouts left and the whole “tech didnt punt the whole game” thing , tech didnt punt because your coach couldnt afford to give the ball up. plus uga stuffed your 4th down tries two times so just because you guys didnt punt doesnt mean uga didnt stop tech all night..which they did…tech didnt run outside with any great sucess Dan..nesbitt was the leading rusher with a longest run of 24 and that was between the tackels…so go watch thaty game agin or wait until this year,,you will see the same outcome but different score

Dan

May 6th, 2010
3:42 pm

I think most Canes fans – and objective watchers – would say they won the 2002 National Championship too.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
3:43 pm

Ummmmm ok, atl xman. I guess you missed Thomas’ 75 yard touchdown?

atl xmen

May 6th, 2010
3:44 pm

gt..just lazy my friend…=)

WE'RE GOIN TO SHREVEPORT AGAIN!

May 6th, 2010
3:46 pm

I can’t stop thinkin about Tech. Every day and every night I come on their blog just to see what’s goin on. I’m a bit obsessive. Yea, I call Tech “irrelevant” all the time but that’s not really how I feel. If I didn’t care about them…then why would I be on here daily talkin trash. Man, the day we beat tech this past november i got chills thinkin bout how many times i’d get to write about it on those internets. Boastin and chest thumpin….30-24..30-24…. over and over and over…all summer till my little hearts content. Sad sad life I lead huh fellas? Oh well….

WE DEFINED OUR SEASON ON A WIN OVER GEORGIA TECH! WOOOOHOOO!

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
3:49 pm

As an objective watcher I have the canes as the 2002 national champions in my book. Its not the official book. Just my book.

WE'RE GOIN TO THE BLUE TURF BOWL AGAIN!

May 6th, 2010
3:51 pm

Maybe, just maybe, UGA fans are giving you so much grief about the win last year because your fans were so obnoxious after 2008. You have people such as Ramble On!!!, Trade School Junkie, and of course everyone’s favorite Tech fan m to thank for that.

So, until you beat us again, get used to hearing it! If history holds true, you will only have to listen to us for another 8 years or so before you can brag about your once in a decade win.

Enjoy!

WE'RE GOIN TO THE BLUE TURF BOWL AGAIN!

May 6th, 2010
3:55 pm

And as we heard over and over again in 2008, this is a college football blog, not a GT blog.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
4:07 pm

Speaking of m where’s he been? New handle? In hiding? Mommy has him grounded?

SHREVEPORT BOUND!

May 6th, 2010
4:07 pm

Obsession is a funny thing… You’d think you’d be more obsessive about your own team…not ours.
I wasn’t one of the Tech idiots invading the UGA blog. Many of us on here werent. Yet here your dumba@@ is making sure you read and comment on every Tech article you can find. You’re no better than Ramble On!!! And you’re following right in his retarded footsteps….

Quit being a Mettenberger and just walk away…no means no!

You just got burnt like the Georgia Theater my friend!

Bulldog59

May 6th, 2010
4:13 pm

BOLD prediction by TB. I don’t think NC is quite ready, but who knows.

North Ave. Trade School fans, if you are bragging about ONE win in NINE years against UGA, don’t you think you need to change the subject?

Trust me, the last time we beat UF (2007), I didn’t do much smack talkin’. Just grateful for the victory and would only say to my UF friends, we beat a good team today.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
4:16 pm

Bulldog59. The nerds are a different breed than we’re used to dealing with in the mighty SEC. These people over here don’t have much of a clue about anything.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
4:20 pm

Indeed, Bulldog59. Hopefully we’ll win a few more with Johnson than we did with Gailey. The games were mostly competitive (2002 notwithstanding), but we found every way imaginable to lose.

Dan

May 6th, 2010
4:20 pm

You’re a fool HBTD.

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
4:21 pm

HBTD,

YOUR AN IDIOT FOR STARTERS!

UGAY= JOE DIRT

2008 Preseason Champs

May 6th, 2010
4:21 pm

UGA is the greatest team in the world. Even when we lose we win. Every other team can suck it!

We went 7-5 last year and played in the tire bowl! That warrants a helluva a lot of trash talk in my opinion!

YEEEHAAAAW! GO DAWGS!

Bulldog59

May 6th, 2010
4:25 pm

Personally, rarely read GT articles, only when they have a significant win in the current sport, etc. NEVER read a blog attached to the article, don’t care what the GT fans think, and don’t care to read GT-haters comments.

Shouldn’t these comments be about TB’s article, and the pros and cons of TB’s assertion that NC with stellar D, will beat GT for the division title?

This would require some football knowledge, as well as a little research on NC football to compare it to GT, the other contenders, etc. Maybe TB is trying to have a battle of wits with a bunch of unarmed men?

DT

May 6th, 2010
4:29 pm

Please, someone show me where TB states that this is a TECH blog???? NOWHERE! It’s a Football blog this week talking about the SEC and ACC breakdown of each Division. Get over yourselfs Techies.

CrimsonPride

May 6th, 2010
4:29 pm

WE RUN…THIS CONFERENCE.

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
4:30 pm

HBTD, WHY WERE YOU NOT RANKED IN THE FINAL POLL LAST YEAR? WHY ARE YOU NOT RANKED TO START THIS SEASON? WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT UGAY IS GARBAGE IN PRESENT FORM, THEN MAYBE YOU WILL HAVE MOVED UP A SPOT FROM BEING THE GUM ON TECH’S SHOE.

TOP 10 CLASSES= SHREVEPORT….HURTS DOESN’T IT!!!
KENTUCKY AT HOME? DUDE, JIMMY CARTER WAS PRESIDENT LAST TIME THAT HAPPENED TO YOU CLOWNS IN ATHENS… YOU GUYS ARE SOOOO SUPERIOR!!!!!
ENJOY CHASING TECH IN THE POLLS LOSER, LOOKS JUST LIKE THE END OF LAST YEAR HUH? YOU GUYS ARE GARBAGE ON THE NATIONAL STAGE, THAT’S WHY NOBODY THINKS YOU WILL BE WORTH A FLIP.. TECH IN THE MIX FOR ANOTHER CONFERENCE TITLE, AND YOU GUYS LEAD THE NATION IN SPRING ARRETS! (((((((4 ARRETS)))))) DOES LEAD THE NATION….CONGRATS

THWG AND (((((((((((((25-6))))))))))))))) 3-0 SWEEP!!! WE RUN THIS STATE!!!!!

WE'RE GOIN TO THE BLUE TURF BOWL AGAIN!

May 6th, 2010
4:31 pm

You are an idiot Shreveport. Go back and read your comments and tell me again who is obsessed with who?

30-24

Glad it still hurts you so bad.

And the article is about the ACC, not GT my simple minded friend.

WE'RE GOIN TO THE BLUE TURF BOWL AGAIN!

May 6th, 2010
4:33 pm

Tide Rising-Look at the 1st page of comments, unfortunately m did not kill himself after his team crapped the bed at the end of last year.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
4:34 pm

I can tell the nerds are really getting worked up with some of these Dawg bloggers. As an earlier blogger stated, history would indicate you’ve only got about 8 more years of it. Enjoy!!

DT

May 6th, 2010
4:36 pm

Only a Techmite would put up Baseball scores on football blog. Things don’t change MITE, we kicked you in football the past 8 out of 9 years. The way you feel better about yourself is to bring up other teams that beat us because your sorry team can’t. If you think this past November was painful(and it was) just wait until this coming November. The beatdown will really hurt when the Dawgs hang 50 points on that sorry defense of yours>

SaintsLSU

May 6th, 2010
4:36 pm

LSU vs UNC September 4, 2010 in the GA Dome. Now that will be a game. Low scoring and hard hitting. Where will you be?

Crimson Pride, you run the ACC Coastal? Just kidding, I know what you meant. And yes, you do run the SEC right now, but hopefully not at the end of this season. But if it going to end up between the “Bammers” and the “Gaytors”, I will root for Bama.

2008 Preseason Champs, that was pretty funny

wesleywhatwhat

May 6th, 2010
4:37 pm

most of the “dawg” commenters here on ajc.com (and on this ACC article in particular) are an embarassment to the many good folks i know who actually attended uga.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
4:41 pm

W3. You best get used to it. The beatdown should continue for at least another 8 years.

2008 Preseason Champs

May 6th, 2010
4:46 pm

Remember when we almost won it all in ‘08.. ?

Stafford, Moreno…..all that talent. All that coaching….

Well this year (movie trailer voice)…Get Ready….Cause the Dawgs are BACK! In an all new adventure entitled….”Staying outta the Cellar in the East”…. That’s right… they’ll do anything they can to claw their way to 3rd or 4th place. Staring Saint Mark Richt and whoever’s not been arrested or left the team by the time the season starts….

THIS YEAR….IT’S SERIOUS!

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
4:46 pm

I believe m is in da house. Just under a different handle that’s all.

Murray the Midget

May 6th, 2010
4:49 pm

Anyone know where there’s a good sale on childrens baseball gloves? Goin’ to the Braves game and would like to try to shag a few foul balls

DT

May 6th, 2010
4:52 pm

The Nerd herd is just jealous because they aren’t even good enough to be considered Pre-Season #1. UGA did choke that year, but at least UGA put themselves into consideration for a possible #1. Even in Pre-Season the Nerds are not much of a going concern. UGA is put at a much higher level than Tech every year! Get use to it Silly Nerds

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
4:55 pm

DT. Sadly, these dummies haven’t got a clue.

Old Tech fan in NC

May 6th, 2010
4:55 pm

I’m planning on watching Tech play (probably) FSU in sunny Charlotte in early Dec this year.
You sec guys cannot relate to watching champ ball played outside as it was intended!

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HBTD

May 6th, 2010
4:58 pm

Old Tech fan in NC

May 6th, 2010
4:55 pm
I’m planning on watching Tech play (probably) FSU in sunny Charlotte in early Dec this year.

Old Tech. IF you get there, enjoy! I’m sure you’ll be joined by at least 1,500 of your fellow techies.

Stinger

May 6th, 2010
4:59 pm

Looking for a repeat as ACC Champs this year. You can take it to the bank.

DT

May 6th, 2010
4:59 pm

HBTD – You mean there would be more than last year???

wesleywhatwhat

May 6th, 2010
5:00 pm

how sad is it that TBHD has commented (poorly, with lots of misspellings) dozens of times on this one article alone?

Stinger

May 6th, 2010
5:01 pm

DT and HBTD enjoy Shrievport again this year. Did you take your own trailer last year or stay at Motel 6? I heard Motel 6 had a sale on PBR.

wesleywhatwhat

May 6th, 2010
5:02 pm

especially considering that this IS an article on the ACC. what a sad excuse for a life TBDH is living.

DT

May 6th, 2010
5:03 pm

Stinger(Gay) How was that 30-24 beat down? Nice spelling of Shreveport there buddy. Oh, how many BCS bowl games have you won?

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
5:04 pm

I think there was a drizzle last year. Apparently, the nerds don’t like watching their team if there’s any rain in the area. I guess you read where they had 350 – 400 show up for t-day this year. Apparently, it rained and they had better things to do. LOL. A joke of a fan base.

Pago Pago Trojan

May 6th, 2010
5:04 pm

Having a high school offense is fine as long as you score one more point than the other guy.

DT

May 6th, 2010
5:08 pm

Hey Stinger, How’s it feel to always play second fiddle to UGA in Football? Hurts doesn’t it? You should be use to it by now after all of these years.

Paddy

May 6th, 2010
5:10 pm

Fla St still has a ways to go before they p[lay for any championship. Their spring practice was a disaster according to Jimbo. There was no team chemistry according to Jimbo. Does not sound like just making some minor adjustmens down in Tallahassee now does it? And they were not that good last season anyway.

wkrp

May 6th, 2010
5:17 pm

UNC wont win ACC-coastal with Yates at QB.
Yates is the weakest link on that team.

Tech thoroughly destroyed UNC in 2009.
The only thing “close” in that game, was the score.
Stat wise, that game was a complete disaster for UNC,
especially on defense.

In 2008, Tech lost both OGs just before the UNC game, and then lost both OTs DURING the UNC game. That, and very bad ST play were the REAL reasons UNC won in 2008.

Tech was 7-1 in 2009 conference play, with a really bad D.
2010 D will see an enormous improvement over last year.
There wont be any drop-off on offense. In fact, itll be even better.

Tech now has ALL of Al Grohs years of experience against conference opponents to work with, and THAT can not be overlooked. EVERYTHING
Al Groh has learned about every other ACC team will now be a BIG advantage in favor of Tech. Every ACC team will now “essentially” be playing against a team with 2 HC’s.

VT wont win Coastal either. Wont matter that Tech goes to Lane.
Even mediocre UNC beat VT at Lane in 2009.
Last 2 trips to Lane, GT lost a close one in 2008 on
questionable late game penalties. In 2006, Tech crushed VT.

Miami was VERY lucky to get Tech when Tech was playing their 3rd game in 12 days. Every Tech player was totally gassed at end of 1st Qtr. That and Tech’s disastrous experiemnt with a 4-2-5 defense were the REAL reasons. Tech will beat Miami in 2010.

In 2009, Miami lost to VT, Clemson, and UNC.
Tech beat VT, UNC, and Clemson twice.

BOOK IT NOW: Tech will be 8-0 in ACC play.

BK

May 6th, 2010
5:20 pm

1.Virginia Tech
2.North Carolina
3.Miami
4.Trek
5.Duke
6.VA

Murray the Midget

May 6th, 2010
5:22 pm

Yeah, I’d rather go to the Braves game than Six Flags where they won’t even let me ride a decent roller coaster! I’m sick and tired of riding that stupid pooh-bear.

HugoStiglitz

May 6th, 2010
5:26 pm

I think UNC has a chance. If they are better then last year then they will be tough to beat. Their defense should be outstanding. I still personally think that VT is going to take the Coastal and the ACC but we will see. The winner of the GT/VT game will be key like it is every year. This is one tough division though.

Dave In Tampa

May 6th, 2010
5:29 pm

I think that the winner of the GT/VT game has the best route to the ACC CG. What am I missing about UNC? I thought they would be decent, but not a contender. What does everyone see in them? This is a serious question not a smart elleck(sp) one.

wkrp

May 6th, 2010
5:31 pm

Tech’s ACC schedule is:

UNC (Away)
NCSt (Home)
Wake (Away)
UVA (Home)
Clemson (Away)
VT (Away)
Miami (Home)
Duke (Home)

Wake replaces FSU on the rotation.
Wake wont have Riley Skinner. Not good for Wake.

I’m not a big believer in “home-field advantage.”
If youre good, doesnt matter where you play.

Regardles of the road games, I just dont see Tech losing ANY ACC games.

wkrp

May 6th, 2010
5:34 pm

Acutally, NCState replaces FSU on the schedule. My bad.
NCState wont be tougher than FSU.

SOOHSO

May 6th, 2010
5:47 pm

JacketFan

May 6th, 2010
5:49 pm

The way I see it, GT has a schedule built for success. We have two games (SCstate, Kansas) to work out the bugs on defense. UNC’s offense is anemic. It’s not as though they are really a thread to maintain ball possession. Furthermore, we heard similar praise about UNC’s D last year … how’d that work out for them? The truth of the matter is that GT won’t have a real test until we go to Clemson. By then, the defense will be running on all cylinders and CPJ will have plenty of surprises left in the playbook for Clempson, VT, Miami and UGAg. That final stretch is really going to separate the leaders in the Coastal. If anyone can come out of that run unscathed (GT, UM or VT), that team will be well-positioned for a run at the BCS.

As for all the talk about how “irrelevant” the ACC is – take a look at which conference has five teams in the post-Spring polls. SEC? Nope. Big 12? Nope. It’s the ACC, folks, which give those ACC teams (especially those playing a decent non-conf opponent) some of the best RPIs for 2010. If any of those teams manage to survive undefeated or with even one less, that team will be in the running for the BCS.

Oh, and don’t act like you haven’t noticed that UGA is not in the top 25. Well, except for Shlabach’s poll … but he’s a homer of the worst sort.

naganole

May 6th, 2010
5:56 pm

Just to be clear Tony, this is the same epic UNC defense that had a 21 point lead over FSU at home in front of a national audience at halftime, only to lose. What’s worse is that FSU’s defense was as bad as UNC’s was good. That same explosive FSU offense that is only replacing 1 starter (at WR), and returns it’s whole OL for the 3rd year in a row?

naganole

May 6th, 2010
5:58 pm

WKRP – I’m not saying Tech will lose, but I’d favor UM even in Atlanta. They have the size up front on the DL to give the T.O. fits…

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
6:02 pm

HBTD, YOU GUYS OWN THE LONGEST LOSING STREAK IN THE SERIES, YOU WANT TO TALK HISTORY, THERE YOU GO. SUCK IT! PRESENT DAY, YOU ARE UNRANKED…AGAIN!!!! YOU HAVE THE SERIES YES, BUT I WILL TAKE 4-1 ALL DAY. THAT’S NATIONAL TITLES, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE WORLD THAT THESE KIDS PLAY FOR ON SATURDAYS. YOU LOSE AGAIN DUMMY. YOU WANT SOME MORE??

((((((((((4-1)))))))) UGAY UNRANKED!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE'RE GOIN TO THE BLUE TURF BOWL AGAIN!

May 6th, 2010
6:02 pm

“As for all the talk about how “irrelevant” the ACC is – take a look at which conference has five teams in the post-Spring polls.”

But, according to you Tech fans, preseason polls are completely irrelevant. Or are the only relevant when they benefit you?

John Lankford

May 6th, 2010
6:03 pm

I see a lot of homers on this thread so let me be a homer. I have watched North Carolina for three years now and they have 21 starters returning. I have watched these guys improve since they were freshmen.

I have seen all their matchups with Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech beating UNC is not a given. I’ve seen UNC blow the first two games but last season UNC finally beat Virginia Tech and that was in Blacksburg. This game is going to be in Chapel Hill and something will probably be on the line.

This group beat Georgia Tech the year before handily and Georgia Tech returned the favor last season over a lackluster UNC offense. I think Georgia Tech was really motivated in that game after losing to Miami and the UNC guys failed to realize the urgency of getting off to a fast start. UNC had just gotten off a great win against East Carolina and left it back in Chapel Hill. I don’t think UNC will be less motivated this time.

Also, this is a defense that has oplayed together for three years now. I don’t really belive those guys came back just to lose. I have seen them rise from 64th on defense in their freshman year,34th on defense in their sophmore year all the way up to 6th last year.

Their defense should be the best in the country. From the look in the Spring, it looks that way to me. I do not see a weak link on that defense. Robert Quinn is a monster. Not only that,some other guys are starting to make some noise such as Mywan Jackson,McAdoo,Euwell and I was also impressed with Coples. They are pretty darn good.

I’ll say something else too. I think Dwight Jones,Eric High Smith and Jerhanie Boyd will be pretty good this year. They have a pretty good tightend in Pianalto and some good backs in Draughn,Houston,Elzy and White.

Looking at the five games UNC loss last season,UNC blew hugh first half leads to FSU,NCSU and Pitt. Their defense didn’t come to play in my opinion in those games because their offense put up the points to win those games. If they depend on Yates or John Shoop to win big games then they will lose those games again. The UNC defense just needs to take over every game. I don’t know if Shoop or Butch Davis has the guts to pull Yates when a game is on the line. Yates can only do so much because he is limited in ability.

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
6:06 pm

UGAY, NO IGAY.

Ormewood

May 6th, 2010
6:14 pm

Yates is not a world-beater, no question, but UNC’s OL was devastated by injuries last year. They lost their starting RT in August for the year. He’s back. At times, they were starting two true freshmen on the OL. Kind of tough for a QB to make plays when he’s consistently facing third-and 10, third-and-12. His starting TE missed games too, and he’s a chain-mover. This year, those might be third-and-three or third-and-two. Both RB’s, while not elite, are serviceable seniors.

VT is stacked at RB with Williams and Evans. The key in beating them is making Taylor beat you with his arm. Same for GT with Nesbit. Thomas is going to be the Jackets biggest void to fill. Miami will mmake noise, as they did last year, but their schedule is really difficult.

forrestgumps

May 6th, 2010
6:15 pm

The tarholes are not coming into tally and beating the Noles…that is just nuts Tony….we’ll beat them by 2 scores…

forrestgumps

May 6th, 2010
6:16 pm

I think it’s going to be FSU vs Ga Tech for the ACC Title..NC is not even in the same league tony..

JacketFan

May 6th, 2010
6:17 pm

@we’re going – I think you’ll find that I’m not one of those Tech fans who has said anything about preseason polls one way or another. I noted the rankings here for the benefit of the UGAg fans who seem to put so much value on them.

forrestgumps

May 6th, 2010
6:18 pm

Tony has been wrong ALOT…..

Paddy

May 6th, 2010
6:20 pm

forrestgumps…..you are correct sir. UNC will not beat FSU aby 2 td’s. It also adds a field goal to win by 17. No championship this year gumster, sorry.

Fresh Idea

May 6th, 2010
6:22 pm

Not that anyone of intelligence is going to respond to me, but for the record…GT having 350-400 people at T-Day is a myth. No, it wasn’t over 30k and making national headlines, but it was probably hovering around 10 thousand. That’s with severe weather (not just rain) forecast for the afternoon AND a last minute time change (moved ahead by an hour). I was there. I only made it because I live on campus. I commend anyone who braved the weather to drive downtown and make an annoying early kickoff time. I’m tempted to think if the weather was like last year and the schedule was un-screwed-with, Tech’s spring game could have been a much bigger deal.

Okay, anyone with an IQ below 60 and an SAT score to match may now go ahead and blast me. I expect some made-up crap about hot dogs and cokes, our “tiny” (actually medium-sized by capacity) stadium, our nerdiness, the new defense (said they were running some schemes not meant to stop the option, just practicing), or of course how amazing U(sic)GA is…have at it!

kEVIN

May 6th, 2010
6:23 pm

Love this video of Drew Brees winning MVP in the Super Bowl, all 6′ 0” of him, Murray is 6′ 1”, good to know, Murray reminds everybody of dREW BREES:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4ruh-ujts0

P.S. Colt McCoy said Aaron Murray was the best he’d ever seen.

Beast from the East

May 6th, 2010
6:33 pm

1….Miami
2….GT
3….VT
4….UNC
5….Duke
6….UVA
Top 4 teams are pretty tough and really wouldn’t be too surprised if any one of them took it. Kind of like the SEC West. It will be a tough season and doubt anyone will have a chance to get through it unbeaten. Might be year when a non BCS conference fianlly gets their shot at the BCSNCG. Can you say BSU vs OSU?

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 6th, 2010
6:48 pm

I COUNT THINGS THE WAY I WANT TO COUNT THEM, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ZERO AP/BCS TITLES, I’M GONNA SAY FOUR! WOOHOOOOOOOO!

John Lankford

May 6th, 2010
6:53 pm

Ormewood, I don’t place blame on Yates as many other Carolina fans do. I think our defense just dropped the ball in some key games. The only games where you can really fault Yates would be the games against Georgia Tech and Virginia of all teams. UNC’s defense put it out on the field against ECU and was 3-0 at the time but all you heard was Georgia Tech motivated to get revenge on UNC. Our defense played well for three quarters and fell apart when Yates couldn’t get the offense moving. I clearly remember a turning point in that game when UNC was in the red zone and Yates had a miscue when his center hiked the ball and Yates wasn’
t even ready for it. You should have saw the faces on the defense after that blungled stupidity by Yates and the offense. I think our defense just gave up. Robert Quinn even made comments in the locker room when he said you can’t win with only one side of the team putting out. I donot see Yates as the type of quarterback that can win games for you. He made try not to lose a game but he is no Tyrod Taylor,Harris or Nesbitt. Now if we are talking about the new guy,Brenner, that is a different story. Does Davis and Shoop have the guts to see what the kid can do. It might be the whole differencwe in getting over the top for UNC’s offense. It sure looked that way to me in the spring but all I hear is the same ole crap from Davis and Shoop. Loyalty can only take you so far.

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
6:56 pm

Kevin…yeah and Ron Powlus was supposed to win 3 heismans before he played. Matt Barkley was supposed to be the best freshman QB we had seen in years. Kyle Wright was supposed to be the best QB Miami has ever had. Chris Rix was supposed to be the most physically gifted QB FSU had ever had. See the trend? Lets wait and see Murray actually play in a college game first against a Florida or Alabama type defense. Funny things occur when that happens, those freshman QBs end up looking like freshman QBs.

Beast from the East

May 6th, 2010
7:17 pm

KGator79, I think you said it. I remember Danny W. struggled several times early in his career. Murray might turn out to be all that he is talked about but he will have some really rough games along the way. I guarantee you that South Carolina will be coming after him hard. They really need to try and deliver with the running game the first 3-4 weeks or it could be a disaster.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
7:30 pm

KGator79,

Actually I coulda sworn that Beano Cook said Powlus would win 4 Heismans. I kid you not. And Jimmy Clausen suggested that they could win 4 national titles when he committed to ND. ND must have something hallucinogenic going on around ND. QB is definitely the hardest position on the team to predict future success.

Phillip Rivers came out of Athens, AL. The guy wasn’t even recruited by Alabama or Auburn and I don’t know if any SEC powers recruited him. He goes to NC state cause they were one of the few schools offering and the rest is history. Lots of qbs in the NFL that people have no idea where they came from and lots of qb busts like the ones you mentioned. Some other notable sec busts are Jordan Jefferson so far at LSU and Russell Sheppard who was a 5 star qb dual threat and is now a permanent wide receiver.

As for the Tech game I felt really bad for the Tech folks when I read there were only 300-400 people there and kinda wondered if that was really true. 10,000 sounds more right. We had 91,000 again but our fans understand that Lord Satan I mean Saban commands that we show up in the interest of impressing the recruits.

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
7:38 pm

Tide Rising….Yeah in regards to Sheppard, was he even given an opportunity at QB? I remember he was being pursued by schools like Florida big time and to me it just seems like at no time last year was he given a chance to play QB or even use his athletic abilities. Now you hear how he wont be a QB at all. Just a little strange, but again the genius that is Les Miles is growingly being exposed as a fraud.

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
7:42 pm

Also, one has to wonder in regards to Murray, if he was so good, why did he never see the field last year over an average at best Joe Cox? In todays college football world, you coach and play to win today, not save for tomorrow and one would think if Murray was that much better than Cox he would have played.

kEVIN

May 6th, 2010
8:10 pm

The ole “if murray’s so good, why didn’t he start last year” make Florida’s Bentley look even worse because he sat the bench FOR 3 YEARS….

Murray has THE QB developer as his coach who got 2 QB’s a Heisman, and a 3rd QB 2nd in the Heisman, and a 4th QB #1 in NFL Draft, so Murray will be better than good.

HBTD

May 6th, 2010
8:11 pm

Tony. Congrats!! You’ve created quite a “buzz” over here in Loserville. Keep up the great work.

kEVIN

May 6th, 2010
8:12 pm

p.s. florida’s qb bentley reminds me f joe cox, good in mop up stats, good in high school, yet sat the bench for 3 years. cox went 8-5, bentley won’t even win 8 games–his rb’s can’t run–see SEC Champ–16 yards for the rb’s.

Ormewood

May 6th, 2010
8:20 pm

UF QB is Brantley, not Bentley. You think Florida is only winning eight? I’ll take the over on that one.

Beast from the East

May 6th, 2010
8:35 pm

You’ll see plenty of “Bentley” in Jax.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
8:49 pm

KGator79,

Your question about if Murray is so good why didn’t he start last year is a valid question. I can understand Richt starting the 5th yr senior Cox over a true freshman. But what I’m shocked about is that throughout his redshirt season that he couldn’t make a run at attaining the backup job over the hapless Logan Gray. The only td I saw gray throw was to Brandon Spikes.

At Bama we had AJ McCarron who midway through the season beat out Star Jackson for the #2 job. We kept the redshirt on him but McElroy got his ribs cracked in the Florida game and was still hurting in the Texas game. McCarron was confident and ready to go if McElroy couldn’t make it through the Texas game.

To me it speaks volumes that Murray couldn’t beat out Logan Gray last year and that it was a 3 way mix to begin with going into spring and as Richt said the race may go into the fall. The fact that gray was ready to leave the team because he apparently thought he was better than Murray should also tell you something. Bottom line is that Gray is a bad qb and that if Murray couldn’t decisively separate himself from Gray than how good can this kid really be? The consensus that I saw was that Murray was the guy most dog fans wanted going into spring, then Mett outplayed him during the spring and was “the guy” that most dog fans wanted, then Mett got booted, and now Murray is the guy by default.

I am the dog

May 6th, 2010
9:06 pm

HBTD please turn off your computer. You give all UGA fans a black eye and stomach cramps. Please shut up or pull for someone else

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
9:21 pm

Kevin….really, did you just ask if Brantley was so good why didnt he start for 3 years? I’ll let you figure that one out on your own. As for the great developing of those QBs you say by Richt…it must be getting really bad for UGA fan when they are having to reference FSU QBs under Richt back in the 90s. This is your praise for Richt? As for your #1 pick Stafford..yeah he did ok. 1-2 vs. Florida. 0 National titles, 0 SEC titles, 0 SEC East titles. Yeah impressive!

Reptiles Rule

May 6th, 2010
9:24 pm

Tide Rising, it is because Murray couldn’t beat out Gray (the year before) or in the Spring game the very reason that Richt got on his knees and begged Gray to stay after he went to Richt with his intentions to transfer. All of the sudden, the #1 position on the depth chart didn’t mean a thing and the job was “wide open” again for the fall. Richt is fully aware that he may well have to turn back to Logan Gray should Murray struggle and when/if that happens you can bet Richt will start feeling the heat. I wouldn’t be all that surprised to see Gray playing by the middle of the season. The question is, with LeMay coming in next year, will Gray stick around and take that chance??

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
9:24 pm

Tide Rising….good points. Which makes your wonder even more about UGA’s latest QB commitment for 2011. Typically you do not get a high profile QB commit like that when your looking to start a freshman you think is all world this year.

Technophobia

May 6th, 2010
9:27 pm

Carolina is loaded on defense but they’ve had a lot of talent before and inconsistency always seems to be their downfall. VT’s schedule may keep them from winning it so despite the losses to the NFL, Tech could repeat if they play their cards right. No question it’s gonna be very interesting in the Coastal division this fall. We have as many teams in the preseason top 25 as the entire SEC has.

Beast from the East

May 6th, 2010
9:28 pm

Al Horford’s got 16 pts and 5 rebs at the half. Hawks are up at 1/2 time.

Reptiles Rule

May 6th, 2010
9:36 pm

By the way, I find it funny as well (and you described it well) how last year when Cox struggled, the doggies were all calling for Gray…until he played in the Florida game. Then as you pointed out, Murray became the newborn King until Berger Boy started to outperform HIM, then ZM became the next Matthew Stafford only better. Then when Metts got the boot it was back to Murray. I laughed how Richt said Murray was the clear cut guy “all along”…I mean, what else is he gonna say?? But Murray is king again and the Dawg fans have once again annointed him the next coming like nothing ever changed….and who can blame them, who else they got??? Hutson Mason??

Beast from the East

May 6th, 2010
9:42 pm

If Grey left and Murray went down, they’d probably move Samuel from LB to QB and Patrick would be calling him the next Tebow!

Reptiles Rule

May 6th, 2010
9:42 pm

Also how did McElroy get hurt in the Florida game?? I can’t remember us even touching the guy. Did he fall off the bench or something?? I’m still mad at Dunlaps idiocy and the way our D played in that game. I’ll be blunt about it…we got trucked.

Reptiles Rule

May 6th, 2010
9:58 pm

No, he doesn’t say too much about Tebow. He seems to stay away from those particular statistics, he’d much rather talk John Brantley and ramble on about some spring scrimmage. Of course he doesn’t give much credence to the actual spring game because evidently he was in the coaches pre-game meeting when Meyer decided to call off the dogs…hilarious. No wait, he was talking about how bad the D was…hell I’m sorry…I can’t recall WHICH side of his mouth he was talking out of. …

KGator79

May 6th, 2010
9:59 pm

Reptiles Rule….I think what happened is they felt it was a given to win that game. They beat up FSU to go to 12-0 and partied. Thats what is going to make the Oct. game pretty interesting. To say Florida will be motivated probably in a similar fashion as Bama was last year, is an understatement and I have to believe, similar to going into the 2008 season when all offseason all they saw was Moreno running all over them, I have to believe similar video will be playing this offseason throughout their workouts of Bama running all over them. Should be interesting to see how it plays out with the possibility of two teams facing one with a 28 game in season winning streak (Bama) and another with a 26 game in season streak (UF). Someone will lose their first regular season game in a long time.

Reptiles Rule

May 6th, 2010
10:15 pm

KGator79, I know what you’re saying but how could UF look at an undefeated Alabama team in the most crucial game of the season, playing for an SEC championship and what everyone deep down inside knew…a National Championship…and to even imagine that game was in the bag. I’ve heard alot of rumors about the party and Billy Gonzalez and what really happened. All I know is that when I got up that morning and read about Dunlaps arrest, I just kinda threw my hands up and said, “we’re done”. I just felt right then that we lost that game. Of course it didn’t help that Bama came out and played like the champions that a month later they would in fact become. But it kills me because I know we could have handled Texas as well……..

Reptiles Rule

May 6th, 2010
10:18 pm

Bama will be tough to beat in that first meeting. I’m just hoping we can win the second one. I think we’ve hijacked this blog, but no one else is commenting. Have a good eve………..

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
10:20 pm

Reptiles Rule,

Maybe be we didn’t see it but apparently one of the gators laid the wood to McElroy sometime during the game. The hit was hard enough to crack 2-3 ribs.

Anyway your post at 9:36 pretty much summarized exactly how neutral fans saw the whole qb derby. It went exactly like in your post.

I think Georgia could be pretty decent everywhere except at qb. This kid just didn’t look solid in the spring game. I just don’t think he has it. I think Christian LeMay knows that because it is indeed extremely unusual for a high profile qb to commit to a program with the possibility of sitting for 3 years. Usually they commit to a program that has a jr or sr qb. But like I said if you have trouble beating out a guy like Logan Gray than how good can you really be? LeMay knows that and I have a scary feeling the that the rest of the bulldog nation is gonna find that out in the fall.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
10:23 pm

Reptiles Rule,

If we do win the first meeting then I’ll be a bigger bulldog fan than Patrick Sulley. I would much rather play UGA in the seccg than have to play you guys twice. If you’re playing another great team its hard enough to beat them once let alone twice. That’s why I’ll be a dawgs fan if we win the first one and hope there won’t be a second one.

Uli Kunkel

May 6th, 2010
10:36 pm

I feel dummer for having read (a portion of) these comments. Thanks for reminding me why the ACC is superior regardless of what happens on the gridiron… FTR, UNC is going to a$$maul LSU.

Reptiles Rule

May 6th, 2010
10:43 pm

By golly you’re right Tide Rising…it was Brandon Spikes that broke 2 of his ribs in the SECCG. Boy did Alabama keep THAT under wraps, which was very very smart. But hey, look at it this way, at least he still had his eyesight! ……..And that, and his 40 time, cost Brandon some serious jack and rightfully so. And Dunlap got financially drilled for his situation too, millions! Hope these guys learned a valuable lesson. We know it was an expensive on.

Urban Meyer

May 6th, 2010
10:45 pm

Please Dr.Phil..I need help!

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
10:58 pm

ReptileRule,

It was kept well under wraps, no one even knew about it I don’t think. It was only after the Texas game it was revealed. Our backup AJ McCarron was ready to go. He had won over the backup spot over Star Jackson in the 6th week of the season. Star’s stats weren’t unimpressive either. Anyway, that’s the main reason why I question whether Murray is any good. If he couldn’t win over the backup job over the hapless Logan Gray the way AJ won the backup job at Bama then you really gotta wonder about the guy.

CrackDaddy

May 6th, 2010
11:02 pm

I believe there are a lot of UNC haters out there. The fact is, that UNC has more charisma than any school in either the ACC or the SEC. People are afraid that UNC is on ther verge of turning their football program into one that rivals there BB program. And for those who cite UNC’s most recent past as an example of their what they are capable of, well they have not had the players (since Mack Brown, when they were as good as almost anyone in the nation) in the past, but this year they do. So don’t talk about the past. UNC rocks!

Missing Important Piece of Info

May 6th, 2010
11:35 pm

Tide Rising, Murray hurt his elbow midway through the season when replacing Cox would have made the most sense. Under your logic, you are saying that all three UGA backup QB’s last year don’t have the potential to be better than Joe Cox. I just find that very hard to believe.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
11:44 pm

Missing piece of info,

Judging from the spring ball it looked to me like Mett had the potential to be the guy and be much better than Cox. All I’m saying is that I just don’t see it with Murray. That’s all. And while I understand he had tendinitis in the elbow last year I’m still saying that going into the spring he still was listed behind Gray who I’m sure everybody can agree just doesn’t have it. Not from what I’ve seen anyway. The other concern is that from what I read 18 and 19 year olds shouldn’t be getting tendinitis just from throwing the football. I’m not a doctor obviously but I’m just sayin it can’t be good to be having elbow problems that early in your career. And while he may yet have the potential to be better than Cox I just can’t see him being a great one. Hopefully for you dog fans he will prove me wrong.

Tide Rising

May 6th, 2010
11:47 pm

Crackdaddy,

Mack Brown was a good coach. But when you say under Brown that Carolina was as good as almost anyone in the nation well thats a little over the top. Not hatin on the heels. Just sayin I don’t ever remember them being a top 5 fixture or playing in bcs bowl games under Mack Brown. If they are going to break through though this may well be the year.

Gen Neyland

May 7th, 2010
5:54 am

One reason NC doesn’t get the love it may deserve going into this season is that over the years, NC football has been known as a filler sport to NC basketball season. People have been watching the football program grow under the radar and Davis is the ACC’s version of the SEC’s Saban. Davis had to start more at scratch than Saban did at Alabama but has silently weaved NC into being a player in the ACC. Will this be the year or will it ake one more..?

UGASlonnerknocker

May 7th, 2010
6:24 am

Is there anything more boring than ACC football talk?

Ormewood

May 7th, 2010
7:15 am

Yes, UGA hoops.

Gt4ever

May 7th, 2010
7:52 am

In a VERY weak league, it’s GT’s to lose……If GT has any Defense, then it will be a runaway. We will get beat by a GOOD team in the BCS bowl, because we still don’t have the horses to play with an elite team….. THWG!

Gt4ever

May 7th, 2010
7:53 am

BTW, UGA, although most of their fans believe it to be, is NOT an elite program… We have a chance to beat them again in Athens….

Gt4ever

May 7th, 2010
7:55 am

CrackDaddy, you must be kidding…. UNC football will never be Elite…… You were at your best when the Texas coach was at the helm…. Get off the crack……..

Stinger

May 7th, 2010
8:28 am

DT, you ignorant slut, how would you like me to punch you in the face you little queer maggot? You are so envious of Tech you can’t stand it.

Stinger

May 7th, 2010
8:30 am

Can someone tell me UGA’s preseason ranking? Didn’t think so !!! LMAO

Pawleys Island Jacket

May 7th, 2010
8:35 am

Sorry Tony, you are dead wrong that UNC will win the Coastal. I don’t know who will but it won’t be UNC. Glad you picked them though…it’s the kiss of death!

GT ALL THE WAY!

May 7th, 2010
8:46 am

Wow Stinger, internet tough guy, how impressive.

RDR

May 7th, 2010
9:39 am

Poor tech. Couldn’t even make the top 60.

Dogs No. 10 in spring attendance … Barbara Dooley at Vols event … Chapas, Durham, Atkins graduate Saturday
9:20 am May 6, 2010, by Tim Tucker

Georgia ranked No. 10 in the nation in attendance for its spring football game, according to figures compiled by Sports Business Daily.

Alabama again had the largest spring-game crowd (91,312), followed by Nebraska (77,936), Ohio State (65,223), Auburn (63,217), Penn State (55,000), Florida (51,500), Florida State (51,000), Texas (44,000), Virginia Tech (41,000) and Georgia (38,472).

Also topping 30,000 in spring-game attendance: Tennessee, Michigan, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Arkansas and Michigan State.

A full chart of the attendance for BCS schools’ spring games (except for a few on which attendance was unavailable) can be found here.

To all the Tech and UGA fans on here

May 7th, 2010
9:40 am

Congrats…you are all now officially 12 years old again.

BigDAWG

May 7th, 2010
9:43 am

You Jackets are miserable. Worst team in the ACC. UGA will beat you by 70 this year. And one time y’all lost to Duke in football. I mean what the heck NERDS!

Dawgs are on our way to another SEC Championship this year and maybe even the National Championship THIS YEAR! Aaron Murray is the future and the future is now! I’ll bet we beat Florida by 35! Mark it down. Without Tebow they nothin!

2010 National Champs….you hear that Techies?!?!

and y’all are the 2010 National Chumps!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Joshua Barlowe

May 7th, 2010
10:00 am

Dear Tony – please learn how to spell the player’s names at the school who won the ACC championship that happens to be in the same town as your newspaper.

It’s BURNETT.

And you’re supposed to be this awesome journalist??? Please.

[...] Barnhart goes with UNC from the Coastal in his picks–thinking outside the box at least, but most likely [...]

techy

May 7th, 2010
10:30 am

nerds nerds nerds nerds……………….acc = highschool football

BigDAWG

May 7th, 2010
11:58 am

Bulldawgs are gonna be the 2010 National Champions….

MARK IT DOWN RIGHT NOW NERDS!

BD57

May 7th, 2010
12:59 pm

The guy writing this article must not have actually watched football. First off, I hate them, but VT is going to kill UNC and will win the division with ease. Secondly, if he thinks Al Groh is bringing a more aggressive defense to GT then he proves he hasnt watched football. His defense will be a bend but dont break 3-4 style just like he employed at UVa.
Finally, UVa has some very good young playmakers on offese in Tim Smith, Perry Jones etc and would be improved, but Verica isnt a guy that most people expect much from.

claybrdr

May 7th, 2010
1:08 pm

Brian, while Davis may not have lost to Miami, he has yet to beat UVA. Which do you think carries the most weight?

Thinking Groh will be a positive addition to GT is a the funniest thing I’ve ever heard.

BD57

May 7th, 2010
1:09 pm

Butch Davis is just like Groh–He came in and got recruits to buy into the idea that he could get them to the NFL, but as a head coach he really will never be more than average

GO HEELS

May 8th, 2010
2:58 pm

UNC can easily when the Atlantic Division with Va Tech and Ga Tech games being at home. That will be a story book ending with the ACC Championship game being in Charlotte at a stadium that UNC is very familiar with having played there the last two years in bowl games…

GO HEELS

May 8th, 2010
3:10 pm

TO ALL THE SEC FANS DONT BE SURPRISED IF LSU DOESNT GET OVER 150 YDS TOTAL OFFENSE AGAINST THE HEELS… THAT DUAL THREAT QB LSU HAS WILL ACCOUNT FOR NOTHING AGAINST OUR TEAM SPEED…. I WISH WE CAN COULD PLAY BAMA INGRAM WHO WILL BE THE STORY…

GO HEELS

May 8th, 2010
3:18 pm

SORRY ABOUT THE TYPO ABOUT UNC WINNING THE ATLANTIC DIVISON MEANT COSTAL

Lee Hilbert

May 10th, 2010
1:39 pm

No way UNC wins the Coastal. I’m a Virginia fan but I have to say the Hokies are loaded offensivesly with Tyrod Taylor and an incredible stable of running backs. The top spot will be contested between the Hokies, Ga T and Miami. UNC will be 4th at best!!

bruhoo

May 10th, 2010
2:28 pm

It took Groh about 4 years to get his 3-4 set up at UVa. When he had superior athletes like Chris Canty, Ahmad Brooks and Chris Long to work with, the defense was effective. Still, strong offenses scored a lot of points against that 3-4. It was never, ever an aggressive nor simple defense that allowed the athletes to go out there and just play. In fact, Al’s 3-4 is very complicated. If that is what Johnson saw this spring, he’s in for a rude awakening in the Fall unless of course Al had an epiphany after leaving Virginia.

GO HEELS

May 10th, 2010
8:44 pm

HILBERT are you serious…. U cant be (Miami) we destroyed them last yr controlled the game from 1st to 4th qt… VA TECH beat them with a horrible offensive perfomance in Blacksburg where is very hard to win…. they lost way to much on defense and did you forget there playin in Chapel Hill this year????? GA TECH beat them the last time they came to Chapel Hill… pluse they lost there leading rushers… leading WR…AND TWO ALL ACC PERFORMERS ON DEFENSE…. I BEGINNING TO WONDER IF U WATCH ESPN OR COLLEGE FOOTBALL @ ALL..

bob

May 13th, 2010
1:00 pm

for the record 2009 sec vs acc 4 and 4 incl bowl games GT beat Vandy and MS state on the road

Bubba

May 13th, 2010
9:48 pm

UNC has a dang fine D, with a decent O they could be a very good team. Having said that their O was putrid last year. They had athletes on O but it was putrid. I will have to see some O before I rate them.
VT is going to be good, VERY good this year. Foster will have atleast a respectable D and the O will be the best thay have had in a while if TT can get his blah mind rite.
GT will be game for anybody. If Hill can come somewhere close to Thomas GT will be scary good. The D could’t get worse from last year for the defending champs.
Miami is a wild card. They could come out and be world beaters or fold at the first sign of obversity. Not a good bet so I will easily put them behind more consistent teams like VT and GT.

I pick GT vs FSU ACCCG

Bubba

May 13th, 2010
10:00 pm

And now giving my best Xboy or Xbox or Xman . Adding onto a post because I couldnt remember what I was writing before… UGA wiil beat GT again… if the refs still allow players to blatantly allow somwone to put an MMA ankle lock and twist while the QB is down and on the ground. If the HYPOCRITE Richt allows it CPJ is old school we got plenty of backup LB and DB’s we could use to twist an ankle, spit in peoples faces, or poke folks in the eyes. That is SEC football right? Funny how UGA player like beating up normal college students on campus but when it comes to a college football player they have to wait til the guy is on the ground, the play is over, and his back is turned.

GO HEELS

May 13th, 2010
11:22 pm

Theres no way G Tech plays in ACC championship game… The defense has to learn a new defensive scheme which they do not have the LB’s for in the 3-4 defense… They lost there leading rusher and reciever and the entire left side of there O line….

Ryan Williams was shut down by my Tarheel defense along with Tyrod Taylor I dont think D.Evans would have a impact on that game if he was healthy….. And we have them in chapel hill this year..

Miami we beat them the past two years matter of fact I think the past three years… Look for the same the same outcome this year….

We play FSU in thier house but we will see them again in Charlotte in the ACC championship game