Florida State will edge Clemson to win the ACC Atlantic

It is never easy when a coaching legend leaves or, as was the case with Florida State’s Bobby Bowden, is gently nudged out the door. Transitions are normally hard as an entire team has to adjust to a new staff and a new way of doing things. Wins and losses, in the short term, take a back seat to the sometimes painful process of just getting everybody on the same page.

This will not be the case at Florida State.

Bowden is gone after a Hall of Fame career that included 35 seasons at Florida State and an unprecedented string of success in Tallahassee. But the fact remains that the Seminoles, who dominated the ACC after their arrival in 1992 and were a fixture in the BCS championship race from 1987-2000, have not been relevant on the national stage for a decade.

That is about to change. Jimbo Fisher agreed to serve as head coach in waiting to Bowden for what seemed like three very long seasons. The purpose of that exercise was to make the inevitable coaching transition as seamless as possible.

“We all knew this day was coming,” said Fisher. “I love coach Bowden and owe him and his whole family a lot. My job is to take what he built and move forward.”

And in 2010, that is exactly what Florida State will do by winning the ACC’s Atlantic Division and playing for its first conference championship since 2005.

The likely challenger to Florida State will be Clemson, which reached the ACC championship game in Dabo Swinney’s first full season as head coach. But there are some holes to fill in Death Valley, especially the one left by the splendid C.J. Spiller. There is also the uncertainty around quarterback Kyle Parker, who may get a chance to play professional baseball after the June draft. Clemson goes to Florida State on Nov. 13 and the division championship could be on the line.

Here is our Spring practice review of the ACC’s Atlantic Division. The teams are listed in the order of their projected finish:

 

1. FLORIDA STATE

**–Last season:  7-6, 4-4 ACC; beat West Virginia 33-21 in Gator Bowl.

**–Coach: Jimbo Fisher, first season at Florida State.

**–Key losses:  CB Patrick Robinson, LB Dekoda Watson, WR Rod Owens.

**–Returning starters: Offense 10, defense 6, specialist 2.

**–Players to watch: QB Christian Ponder, OG Rodney Hudson, CB/KR Greg Reid, LB Nigel Badham.

**–What we know: Life must go on without Bobby Bowden. Bowden stepped down as college football’s No. 2 all-time winner after last season and Jimbo Fisher is now in command. He will start with an offense that is going to be very, very good.  Christian Ponder was playing as well as anybody in the country last season (2,717 yards passing, 14 TD), when he was knocked out (shoulder) in the ninth game against Clemson. Ponder is back and will be protected by an offensive line that will be the best that Florida State has put on the field since the glory days of the 1990s. All five starters return and collectively they have started 142 games for the Seminoles.

**–What we still don’t know:   Can the Florida State defense improve just enough to be okay? A big chunk of this spring was spent breathing life into a defense that finished dead last in the ACC (434.62 ypg).  Arizona defensive coordinator Mark Stoops (brother of Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops), replaces veteran Mickey Andrews. Stoops and company had a good spring but there is still much work to do this summer. “I know we struggled last year but we’ve got some guys on defense who can run and hit people,” Fisher said. Three starters return up front. DE Markus White had 10 tackles for loss last season. Kendall Smith (85 tackles) and Nigel Bradham (93 tackles) are proven linebackers. If the defense can just finish in the middle of the league, the offense will be good enough to put Florida State in the ACC championship game.

**–Opening game: Sept. 4 vs. Samford.

 

2. CLEMSON

**–Last season:  9-5, 6-2 ACC; lost to Georgia Tech 39-34 in ACC championship game; beat Kentucky 21-13 in Music City Bowl.

**–Coach: Dabo Swinney, 13-8 in two seasons at Clemson.

**–Key losses: RB/KR C.J. Spiller; TE Michael Palmer, LB Ricky Sapp, CB Crezdon Butler.

**–Returning starters:  Offense 7, defense 6, specialist 2.

**–Players to watch:  QB Kyle Parker, TE Dwayne Allen, DE Da’Quan Bowers, RB Jamie Harper.

**–What we learned:  The defense is going to be more physical and more aggressive. This will be the second year that Clemson works under the system of DC Kevin Steele. There is depth up front and a bunch of guys who can make plays. Junior DE Da’Quan Bowers (10.5 tfl in 2009) was one of the most highly-rated players in the country coming out of high school and this year he will shine. All-America safety DeAndre McDaniel has 208 career tackles and 11 career interceptions.

 We also learned that while the Tigers cannot replace C.J. Spiller, they are not without some playmakers. RB Jamie Harper (418 yards rushing) and redshirt sophomore Andre Ellington (491 yards rushing) now get the chance to step out of the shadow of Spiller, who had 21 career touchdowns of 50 yards or more. Tight end Dwayne Allen is just a sophomore but he is going to be a star. The offensive line returns four starters. This year that group will be a little meaner and more physical.

**–What we still don’t know: Will Kyle Parker return as Clemson’s quarterback? Parker, who threw for 2,526 yards and 20 touchdowns last season, will have a decision to make come June, when he is expected to be taken in the Major League baseball draft. If the up-front money is big enough, Parker could give up his final three years of football eligibility. “I think he’s going to be back,” said Swinney. “I just believe he would rather spend this fall running down the hill in Death Valley than riding a bus in Wichita.” But it depends on where Parker, who leads the ACC with 16 home runs, is chosen. Last year every player but two chosen in the first round of the draft earned a signing bonus of $1 million or more.  Without Parker, redshirt freshman Tajh Boyd takes over. Boyd is talented, but he’s not quite ready to be a starting quarterback in the ACC.

**–Opening game: Sept. 4 vs. North Texas.

 

 

3. BOSTON COLLEGE

**–Last season:  8-5, 5-3 ACC; lost to Southern California 24-13 in Emerald City Bowl.

**–Coach: Frank Spaziani, 9-5 in his second season at Boston College.

**–Key losses: C Matt Tennant, WR Rich Gunnell, LB Mike McLaughlin, SS Marcellus Bowman.

**–Returning starters:  Offense 8, defense 7, specialist 1.

**–Players to watch: LB Mark Herzlich, RB Montel Harris, LB Luke Kuechly, TE Chris Pantale.

**–What we learned:  We are not going to bet against Mark Herzlich. Herzlich was the ACC defensive player of the year in 2008 but missed the entire 2009 season while he underwent treatments for bone cancer. This time last year the discussion was about Herzlich’s survival, not if he had a football future.  He returned to practice on a limited basis (no contact) this spring. “We let Mark do what he could,” said coach Frank Spaziani. “He’s certainly nowhere near ready to play, but it’s remarkable to see him where he’s at right now.” Herzlich had a titanium rod inserted in one leg. If Herzlich comes back anywhere near his previous level, BC will have two of the best linebackers in the country. Freshman Luke Kuechly took Herzlich’s position last season and was the league’s defensive rookie of the year.

**–What we still don’t know:  Will QB Dave Shinskie take another step forward? Shinskie, a former minor league baseball player, was pressed into service as a freshman last season and responded by throwing 2,049 yards and 15 touchdowns in 10 starts. Shinskie turned 26 years old on May 4 and so mentally, he’s not a sophomore. We still don’t know if BC will be able to find some help for running back Montel Harris, who ran for 1,457 yards as a sophomore. His 308 carries in 13 games was more than any back in the ACC. Only two players in Division I-A football—Toby Gerhart of Stanford (343) and Dion Lewis of Pittsburgh (325)—had more carries last season than Harris.

**–Opening game:  Sept.  4 vs. Weber State.

 

4. N.C. STATE

**–Last season: 5-7, 2-6 ACC.

**–Coach: Tom O’Brien,  91-66 in 13 years, 16-21 in three years at N.C. State.

**–Key losses: C Ted Larsen, RB Toney Baker, DE Willie Young.

**–Returning starters: Offense 7, defense 5, specialist 1.

**–Players to watch: QB Russell Wilson, LB Nate Irving, TE George Bryan, WR Owen Spencer.

**–What we know: This spring was all about survival for the Wolfpack. From an injury standpoint, the 2009 season was one of the worst O’Brien has experienced in his 13 years as a head coach. N.C. State used 10 different defensive lineups because of injuries. One of O’Brien’s primary goals was to get to the end of spring practice with as many healthy bodies as possible. Still, O’Brien said he had only 44 scholarship players during spring drills.

LB Nate Irving returned to football after almost losing his life in an automobile accident last summer. Irving was an honorable mention All-ACC pick in 2008. The spring ended on a decidedly down note as four players, including All-ACC tight end George Bryan, were arrested on misdemeanor drug charges. Bryan, a candidate for the Mackey Award (nation’s best tight end), was charged with maintaining a dwelling for the use of controlled substances. Starting left tackle Jake Vermiglio was also among those players charged.

**–What we still don’t know:  Quarterback Russell Wilson, who had 31 touchdown passes last season, missed the spring as he spent his third season with the N.C. State baseball team. That has led to speculation that Wilson, like Clemson’s Kyle Parker, could give up football if he is taken high enough in the June baseball draft. O’Brien insists that Russell will be back. “Russell’s coming back, so I don’t know why there’s ever been any question,” O’Brien told reporters in mid-April. If Russell does leave N.C. State has a capable quarterback in sophomore Mike Glennon, a highly-recruited player who completed 24 of 39 passes in limited action last season. Glennon threw for 423 yards and three touchdowns in the spring game.

**–Opening game: Sept. 4 vs. Western Carolina.

 

 

5. WAKE FOREST

**–Last season: 5-7, 3-5 ACC. 

**–Coach: Jim Grobe, 92-84-1 overall, 59-51 in nine seasons at Wake Forest.

**–Key losses: QB Riley Skinner, DT John Russell, CB Brandon Ghee, NT Boo Robinson.

**–Returning starters: Offense 6, defense 7, specialist 2.

**–Players to watch:  RB Josh Adams, QB Skylar Jones, WR Marshall Williams, DE Kyle Wilbert.

**–What we learned:  The Deacons will go back to basics. Coach Jim Grobe came to Wake Forest nine seasons ago as a coach who believed strongly in running the football. But when the Deacons signed quarterback Riley Skinner in 2006, Grobe changed his offense. Skinner started 49 games for the Deacons, won an ACC championship (2006) and took his team to three straight bowl games. “You really get spoiled when you have a reliable guy like that for four years,” said Grobe. Expect Grobe to return to running the ball with former wide receiver Skylar Jones, who emerged from spring practice as the No. 1 quarterback. But don’t count out the other quarterbacks, sophomore Ted Stachitas and redshirt freshman Brendan Cross (son of former NFL great Randy Cross) of Alpharetta. “We’ll find a guy who can get the ball out there,” said Grobe. “It just won’t be as many times as we did with Riley.”

**–What we still don’t know:  With a new quarterback, will Wake Forest be able to get the ball to its playmakers? It’s telling that wide receiver Devon Brown, who caught 61 balls for 671 yards a year ago, ran the ball four times from the slot position in the spring game. The Deacons have another good, athletic receiver in Marshall Williams (60 catches, 867 yards). Don’t be surprised if Grobe puts in more running plays for these two in order to give them a chance to operate in space. And because Wake Forest will go back to the run, can we expect a big senior season for Josh Adams? Adams was the ACC Rookie of the Year in 2007. Last season he averaged 4.8 yards per carry and caught 28 balls for 307 yards. Will Wake Forest finally catch a break in a close game? The Deacons lost seven games in 2009. Five of those were by three points or fewer for a total combined 13 points. There were two overtime losses to Boston College and Georgia Tech.

**–Opening game: Sept. 2 vs. Presbyterian.

 

 

6. MARYLAND

**–Last season: 2-10, 1-7 ACC.

**–Coach: Ralph Friedgen, 66-44 in nine seasons at Maryland.

**–Key losses: QB Chris Turner, OT Bruce Campbell, CB Anthony Wiseman, FS Terrell Skinner.

**–Returning starters: Offense 7, defense 5, specialist 2.

**–Players to watch: RB Da’Rel Scott, P Travis Baltz, WR Torrey Smith, LB Alex Wujciak.

**–What we learned: The offense is going to be just fine. Quarterback Chris Turner (30 career starts) is gone but Friedgen was encouraged this spring about the progress of Jamarr Robinson, who got significant experience in the final four games of the 2009 season. Friedgen also feels better about his offensive line, which was all but depleted due to injuries last season. A reliable quarterback and a veteran offensive line should only help RB Da’Rel Scott, who was a first-team All-ACC pick in 2008 when he rushed for 1,133 yards. Injuries limited Scott in 2009. Now the Terps have some depth at running back with Davin Meggett (338 yards last season). “I felt better at the end of the spring,” Friedgen. “If we can stay healthy, this bunch has a chance.”

**–What we still don’t know: Can Maryland find a way to win the close ones? The Terps lost 10 games last season but rarely did they get blown out. They lost to Middle Tennessee by one (32-31), to Boston College by two (19-17), to Florida State by three (29-26), to Duke by four (17-13), and to N.C. State by seven (38-31). It would help matters if Maryland could take it up a notch or two on defense. The Terps were last in the ACC in scoring defense, allowing 31.25 points per game. Veteran defensive coordinator Don Brown was brought in last season in an effort to improve that unit. Brown is building around LB Alex Wujchiak, who will be the ACC’s leading returning tackler (264). Brown also has a big time cornerback in Cameron Chism. Based on spring practice this should be a more athletic defense.

**–Opening game: Sept. 6 vs. Navy (Baltimore)

 

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124 comments Add your comment

Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

May 5th, 2010
12:36 pm

Oh, so no arrest no problem? Urban and his top 10% of the top 10% is BS. He’s covered up more things (with no arrests) than college football coaches in the 80’s. And thanks for answering for Reptiles Rule, he gets gun shy when questions are fired his way. You want to claim Jarvis Moss blocking two kicks after failing a drug test and sitting for Sisters of the Poor U?

Deante Brownlee

May 5th, 2010
12:39 pm

Dude who are you?! What makes you think that a defense that was last in the ACC and lost 5 starters is going to be that much better than the defense they put on the field last year? Also, Tajh Boyd isn’t ready to be a starter in the ACC? Didn’t everybody say the same thing about Kyle Parker, just last season. Clemson did lose some key ingrediants in Spiller and Ford, but I think they can be a better team this year with a nastier defense and a more solid run game.

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
12:54 pm

Pot….what exactly did Meyer cover up? If your not aware a college coach or anybody associated with the unversity is not allowed to acknowledge or talk about any player having a failed drug test by law. Sorry if Meyer feels the need to follow that law.

Gen Neyland

May 5th, 2010
1:09 pm

Ormewood : BC would not be geographically correct so therefore would not be offered. Sorry.

Reptiles Rule : First, you gotta learn to read the story. Jackson was not involved in a robbery attempt. He was inside the store when the two idiots pulled the stunt and was cleared. Fully… It was not a premeditated crime. It was knee jerk spur-of-the-moment event by the Florida kid, Nu’Keese and the other dope, Edwards. They were sent packing and rightly so. Now, the Myles incident is internal and I haven’t a clue as to what off field punishment Myles will suffer but I’m sure it’ll be worse on him than missing a game. All charges are basically low level misdemeanors I believe. Thankfully, he wasn’t behind the wheel of a 2 ton missle, drunk and passed out at an intersection..! Nu’Keese has landed at Hampton University in Virginia. Personally, I wish him well. If he screws up, his probation reads prison is the next stop.

Gen Neyland

May 5th, 2010
1:12 pm

Pot, meet Mr Kettle : FYI— but it’s something all programs deal with so it’s not just Florida

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/gatorbytes/2010/04/27/plenty-of-loopholes-in-ufs-substance-abuse-punishment-policies/

Boots

May 5th, 2010
1:13 pm

Thanks for underestimating BC again. It will make the shorter trip to Charlotte all that much more enjoyable.

Blue Eagle

May 5th, 2010
1:36 pm

Clemson’s defense will be a little better but what about the offense? Spiller, Ford, and Palmer are gone. That was about 75% of the offense. Look at their average starting field position last year. Half of their scores last year were kick returns and big plays and as of right now, they don’t have another Spiller or Ford to make them. Clemson, without those 3 and assuming Parker comes back, won’t have the horses on offense to march the ball down the field and score with any consistency. If Parker returns I say 7-5 this year. With Boyd at QB they’ll be lucky to win 5 games.

Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

May 5th, 2010
1:41 pm

University of Florida’s new drug program, don’t ask don’t tell. Top 10% of the top 10%, nice try Urban.

fwiw

May 5th, 2010
2:14 pm

Looks like Spurier has FINALLY found the KEY to better football at USC.

It appears he will now begin following the tried & true method UGA uses.

Link: http://www.faniq.com/blog.php?id=3652

Reptiles Rule

May 5th, 2010
2:19 pm

Pot, not to worry, I’ll answer your question. My whole point is…is that those situations at UF DID elicit public outcry and no more than on these very blogs and comment sections. In fact many of those somehow became national debate because of all the local furor, including on the Jim Rome Show. And Gen Neyland…thanks for the answer but the fact of the matter was that Jackson was riding in that car at 3AM in the morning with those guys AND the items mentioned in the police report including the marijuana. And he seemed to be aware enough of the situation to tell them that it was time to split the scene. And then he left with them. Also he had already had other recent issues as well though I don’t recall the specifics but I believe it might have even involved a previous suspension from a game. Yes, we all have our problems, that’s true enough, it’s just that some seem to be made bigger than others.

Ormewood

May 5th, 2010
2:20 pm

Denied admission to South Carolina? That’s a new one.

NationWideNole

May 5th, 2010
3:08 pm

KGAYTOR – Jimbo had absolutely no say about anything but the offense which up to the time Ponder got hurt was the best the ACC has seen in many years (yards per play). Chuck, Mickey and Rick all had “head coach” in their titles; the level of dysfunction with the previous regime was shocking. Jimbo has assembled an amazing staff (Gran, Stoops, Hudson) that mask the defensive weaknesses of the team and our offense will be extremely productive and balanced. FSU will be play in the ACC title game and if its VT from the other side we are coming home to the Orange Bowl.

Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

May 5th, 2010
3:10 pm

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
12:54 pm
Pot….what exactly did Meyer cover up? If your not aware a college coach or anybody associated with the unversity is not allowed to acknowledge or talk about any player having a failed drug test by law. Sorry if Meyer feels the need to follow that law.

What exactly would be the excuses for the names Gary Brown, Janoris Jenkins, Kenneth Tookes, Ronnie Wilson and Jamar Hornsby? Seems they had a “brush” with the law, didn’t they?

Delbert D.

May 5th, 2010
3:15 pm

FSU? That is really hard to see unless the offense can score 40+ points per game. The Noles-Hurricanes game last year looked like both teams’ DBs were recruited that week from the cheerleading squads. Greg Reid is a super athlete if a coach can get a scheme going back there.

I have to say Clemson, if Parker returns. BC will go as Shinskie and the passing game goes. Russell Wilson of NC State had a big dropoff late in the year.

jimmy

May 5th, 2010
3:17 pm

Clemson’s offense is garbage without spiller and ford, I mean they couldnt even win the ACC with a top 10 player in the nfl draft, and now magically there gonna be even better? Come on now, get real. FSU will have some growing pains this year but with some top recruits on defense and the addition by subtraction of old Mickey, I think the D will be much improved. In my opinion every team in the ACC has something to prove after the last few years of mediocre production from the conference. Its sad when your a die hard fan of an ACC team but would rather watch other teams play because the conference has been so down. Time for all these teams to step up and stop being the laughing stock of the major conferences

learn something everyday

May 5th, 2010
3:19 pm

Ormewood: I know right, i thought all you had to do was prove you could spell your own name to get into south carolina. I guess they want you to be able to could to 10 and recite the alphabet too.

Fwiw: your an idiot. UGA has one of the higher standards in the SEC for admission. Don’t take you frustration over permenantley being second fiddle in football in the state out on the blog. Take it in, deal with it, learn to accept it. The citizens of this state have always and will always love and respect UGA over GT until the state is wiped off the map. Its a fact.

learn something everyday

May 5th, 2010
3:21 pm

uh, that should be count to 10. before your huge jacket brains explode due to the typo.

macrotech

May 5th, 2010
3:25 pm

bigtime,”its the ACC, so who cares?”…. I guess it’s all the people that are interested in a conference that is boasting MORE teams in the top 25 than the “vaunted” sec. I know! Nobody cares about preseason polls….UNLESS uga is preseason #1!

NationWideNole

May 5th, 2010
3:25 pm

Clemson’s defense will be scary good, but even with Parker I don’t think they are enough of a complete team to win the division. I think their offense line is thin and they don’t have any offensive playmakers that scare opposing defenses like spiller and ford did, also I’m not sold on Dabo at all, I would like to see Steele get the job he was great for the Noles.

Ga Native

May 5th, 2010
3:29 pm

Majors in “Housing” and “Recreation & Leisure Studies”
for footbal players….is considered “higher standards?”

Beam me up Scotty.

Ormewood

May 5th, 2010
3:30 pm

Spiiler’s special teams impact may be more significant than what he did on offense. He seemed to always give Clemson a short field, thereby opening up the playbook significantly. That favorable field position advantage will go by the wayside this season, putting much more pressure on Parker.

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
3:34 pm

Ok Pot…..Again, what has Meyer “covered up”. At no point did I say nobody has been arrested, but once again you named players who were all either suspended or kicked off the team. Confused where the cover up is with all your mighty wisdom.

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
3:39 pm

Nationwide…the best offense the ACC had seen in years? Dont know the stats on that one, but if that is true, doesnt say much about the ACC when last year the “vaunted FSU offense” struggled to score on Jacksonvile State and came out of a game against South Florida with 7 points, both home games. Thats the best offense the ACC has seen in years? Well thanks for showing us what a joke the ACC has been for many years now…which we all kind of knew before anyway.

learn something everyday

May 5th, 2010
3:40 pm

macrotech: your really not dumb enough to put any stock into any poll before a game has been played are you? IT’S MAY!!! even if UGA was on it, we all know it would be horse sheet.

Ga Native: I said nothing about the programs being offered. Only the admission standards. And nobody really cares if their teams linebackers or running backs are good in calculus or electrical engineering, doesn’t equate to what they were recruited for.

So what if they take easy majors? they get a free ride due to athletic ability, some kids get a free ride for their scholastic ability, the rest take loans. They get a free ride for being ’special’ in some form or aspect. I graduated college in 2002 and out of everyone I know from that time only 2 (out of 15 i still keep up with) are actually using what they majored in. I wish I had majored in housing! would have made my time at college that much easier.

learn something everyday

May 5th, 2010
3:44 pm

and before anybody gets on the standards shouldn’t be lower for athletes kick. Colleges and University’s have football programs for one glaring reason now adays. MONEY. These kids are recruited to fill seats and generate money for the university. Higher admission standards for athletes means lower revenue. You want the best, Brains & Brawn don’t always come in one package.

Reptiles Rule

May 5th, 2010
3:53 pm

learn something…so true, it’s all about the $$$$ as is everything these days. Kentucky had the lowest GPA of any SEC basketball team by far. So what is Calipari getting?? A raise. Just heard it on the radio.

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
3:53 pm

macrotech….you really want to try and compare the ACC to the SEC based off some pre-preseason polls? Yeah after year you have ACC teams that are considered the best in their conference go against SEC teams and get smacked in the mouth whether is Alabama knocking out Clemson and Virginia Tech in the last couple years or Florida and what has become the annual FSU beating along with beating up Miami in 2008. Or even as bad as subpar SEC teams like Georgia and South Carolina this past year beating up Georgia Tech, NC State and Clemson. Yeah enjoy those rankings you got buddy.

Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

May 5th, 2010
3:59 pm

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
3:34 pm
Ok Pot…..Again, what has Meyer “covered up”. At no point did I say nobody has been arrested, but once again you named players who were all either suspended or kicked off the team. Confused where the cover up is with all your mighty wisdom.

See Jarvis Moss for the “cover up” he failed multiple drug tests and played against USC and sat against D-2 schools. Nice tainted ring.

Noles Rule

May 5th, 2010
4:05 pm

Now that fsu has a real coach again, look for the Noles to dominate the ACC in 2010 and be back in the BCS. Fisher has tons of top talent on that roster–FSU will beat florida and win the ACC easily!!! The NOLES are back!!!

noles suck poles

May 5th, 2010
4:18 pm

Dude, I got something to say.

GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leo

May 5th, 2010
4:25 pm

Did some retard really say NCST would win the ACC this year? Are you for real. FSU is over rated I agree and they are definately 2 to 3 years away from being anything of a national contender, but NC STATE??? Are you serious. They won’t even beat FSU this year. And if you do which you won’t you would have to beat VT or UM or even GT to wn the ACC you won’t beat Clemson either or Boston College, damn for real NCST… thats the worst joke i have heard all off season NCST SUCKS AND WILL CONTINUE TO SUCK MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Leo

May 5th, 2010
4:28 pm

Ok gators will suck after tebow there is no life for the gators and urban…

AS for FSU guy, bitch please your young and new coaches with new systems you will be lucky to win 8 games. Your so over rated in polls only because people think your defense can’t get any worse. But it can. October 9th you got an ass whopping coming from your favorite South Florida team…. The U bitch we will own the ACC and Florida AGAIN!!!

wiley

May 5th, 2010
4:31 pm

Leo show some class. Hurling insults and curse words…lets talk about football please.

Typical Gator Fans

May 5th, 2010
4:44 pm

Same Florida big mouths ruining an ACC blog.

Peemoan

May 5th, 2010
4:45 pm

Leo is exactly what you would expect from a Miami fan. No vocabulary outside of profanity. I’ve got two words to describe him: Mo Ron.

Thug U

May 5th, 2010
4:47 pm

Hey Leo, you have to win the ACC once to “own the ACC again”. You haven’t done it yet. Maybe your 160 pound QB can make it through a season without spraining his vagina.
Thug U=overrated since 2001

Balderdash

May 5th, 2010
5:03 pm

Dabo is just mediocre enough to be Tommy Bowden, and you see where that got him.

Child

May 5th, 2010
5:05 pm

DawginLex

May 5th, 2010
5:17 pm

Still think FSU will win it and play VT for ACC title. VT is my sleeper NT pick.

Clemson’s QB is gonna get drafted and he will be gone. That will move NCSU up to 2nd in the division which speaks to the overall lack of power in this division

Dominic

May 5th, 2010
5:17 pm

please shut up about the SEC why would the winner of the ACC want to play in a more difficult conference!? The ACC is a BCS conference i think FSU, GT, Miami and VT would love to have easy wins

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
5:17 pm

Got to love mythical Miami fan (I say mythical because I truely do not really believe they exist..at least home attendance would never suggest they do) thinking that Miami is prepared for some comeback. Got news for ya. Your athletic program is broke, your losing out to FIU and USF with recruits, you have a coach who was only hired because he was the cheapest coach Miami could get who now leads a program that whines and cries about having the score run up on them. Sorry, but not too many are fearing that version of the U any more. The “U”’s worse fears happened and that was a recruiting machine in Urban Meyer going to Florida and the rise of South Florida. A small private school like Miami who is going bankrupt doesnt have much of a chance as long as that continues.

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
5:25 pm

Wow Pot….Didnt know you knew all the inside details of Jarvis Moss and how and when he failed his drug test. Lets see, was Moss not suspended for a game? Did Meyer not come out and state that Moss was suspended for violation of team rules? (Once again remember nobody can mention that a player failed a drug test). So the cover up is where again? I understand that your jealousy toward the top program in the country is probably pretty high, wishing that your school could have remotely the same success, but to go to the lengths of pretending you really care that a kid smoked some pot and played is down right hilarious. If that causes outrage for ya, dont ever step foot on a college campus any where in the country.

Reptiles Rule

May 5th, 2010
5:33 pm

KGator79…Got to agree. I think I’ve seen more appearances of Haley’s Comet than I have seen a real Miami fan. They were all proud that they had a decent crowd for their spring game! Of course, it was held in a high school stadium (I’m not kidding) plus they actually bused in disadvantaged children from the area (a good thing) which helped the attendance somewhat. I’ll tell you one thing, if there is any more a delusional “fan base” than Georgia’s, it’s UMiami. They just loved that 30 for 30 ESPN film about the good ‘ol days!

Gen Neyland

May 5th, 2010
5:36 pm

Reptiles Rule : Jackson missed a few games due to his being in the car with Nuke and Edwards. The pot belonged to the driver. Did he test positive..? Don’t know, but with CDD, I get a feeling his one shot at being in the wrong place at the wrong time is done. Whadaya want, his head on a platter..? I know his Dad came to Knoxville and rang him up and Eric Berry sat him down and explained what it means to be somebody. That one’s over, done, and it’s a wrap. Can we move on..? Can you let it go because there ain’t no basis other than to keep tossing mistruths out there, Reptile. And the majority ain’t buying that line no more…

KGator79

May 5th, 2010
5:39 pm

Reptiles….no doubt. In a way its sad how the program has fallen to what it once was. But I dont think Hurricane fan understands its a totally different landscape than it was in the 80s and even the 90s when they had to build back up under Butch Davis. Back then you didnt have to worry about South Florida taking recruits. You didnt have a D1 FAU and FIU basically right down the road. Miami was IT for the entire south florida area and a school like Florida had little chance of getting in for recruits. Look at UF’s roster now. Look at USF’s. Not to mention even schools like Rutgers who are full of south florida kids. The “good ol days” for the U are over and your right, that 30 for 30 film is about all they have left to remember it by.

Gen Neyland

May 5th, 2010
5:41 pm

…and Reptile, you wanna be co-BBHC with me at Podunk U..? Pay will be good and all we gotta do is win, baby…

Ugaclassof2004

May 5th, 2010
6:26 pm

FSU won’t be competing for anything until they grow a pair on defense. They play sissy girl defense just like UGA does. I don’t care how much athletic talent you have, if you don’t have any mental toughness it won’t matter. I will say that having a new coaching staff will help the Noles, since the defense mailed it in on Mickey Andrews last year and Bobby has pretty much been a figurehead the last 5 years. It’s better to start over with a new coaching staff that will breath new life into the program. This half new staff/half old staff didn’t seem to work very well for the ‘Noles and I have my doubts about whether it will really work for UGA, but we shall see.

Beast from the East

May 5th, 2010
6:30 pm

Not sure about this one. I suspect FSU will be pretty good on offense. I, for one, was really impressed w/ Ponder last year. Seems like a good kid and a heckuva QB. The D was awful and it will have to improve bigtime over last year’s unit if they want to play for the ACC championship. I think it’s going to come down to the winner of FSU and Clemson. Should be a really tight race.
As far as all of the stone throwing about kids in trouble and who did what as far as discipline, I think it’s safe to say every head coach has his hands full trying to keep 60+ college boys out trouble.I know I was buck-wild during those days! When one of them does break the rules I’m sure it’s tough to decide what to do. You don’t want to appear soft, but you also don’t want to give up on a kid that you have most likely recruited for several years and bonded with. I sure don’t envy that part of their job.

macrotech

May 5th, 2010
6:31 pm

I’m not a proponent of preseason polls…I think that they’re a waste of time. However, I find it funny when I hear pup fans get all excited when their dawgs are ranked higher than anybody ONLY to say that they don’t care about them when they’re ranked below everybody. I have great respect for some of the programs in the sec and have been around long enough to appreciate the cycles that all programs go through. I remember when uf couldn’t beat a girl scout troup and we don’t have to go very far to remember alabama’s low points. In the end, we ALL enjoy the highs when they come our way and we can ALL be assured that the lows will have to be endured in their time. You’ll be, if you’re a true fan, pulling for your team and I’ll be pulling for my team….preseason polls have no effect on me! GO TECH!

Beast from the East

May 5th, 2010
6:34 pm

Well said, macrotech. I remember the down years oh so well. I remember when I was a kid we went 0-10-1. My dad took us to every game! It sure is alot more fun to have bragging rights over your rivals!!!!!!!!