Will 5-7 teams play in bowl games?

Nobody asked me, but:

**–I decided a long time ago that I wasn’t going to rail about the number of bowl games that are played. Former SEC commissioner Roy Kramer once told me that if two conferences and one community decide they want to have a bowl game, then more power to them. Nobody compels us to watch.

 But with 35 bowls approved for the 2010 season, the math does not look good. It means that 70 of 120 teams in Division I-A will participate in a bowl game. Last year 71 teams finished 6-6 or better. That’s cutting it pretty close. The rules say you have to be 6-6 or better in order to qualify for a bowl. There have been reports that the NCAA is working on contingency plans if there are not enough qualified teams for the bowls. I will have a problem if 5-7 teams are going to bowls. That is not good for the game.

 **–Here is a guy who got some bad advice. After he threw 26 touchdowns as a sophomore in 2008, Ole Miss quarterback Jevan Snead came to the SEC Media Days in Birmingham in July of 2009 as a possible Heisman Trophy candidate and a potential high draft choice.  Snead started playing poorly in the first month of the 2009 season and never really got better, throwing 20 interceptions. After losing at South Carolina in September, Houston Nutt did the smart thing and started putting Dexter McCluster in the backfield and running it. Snead could see his draft stock dropping with every game and decided to jump off the merry-go-round while he still could. He left school early to enter the draft and was not among the 255 players selected. He would have been much better off staying at Ole Miss and figuring out what was wrong.

 **–The hot topic, in fact the ONLY topic at last week’s BCS meetings was the possible expansion of the Big Ten and what that could do to the rest of college football. Also during those meetings the BCS released the formula by which it is now possible for one of the non-automatic qualifying conferences (MAC, WAC, Mountain West, C-USA, Sun Belt)  toqualify for an automatic bid. I’m not going to get into the formula because it would only give us all a headache. But here are two things you need to know. We are two years into a four-year evaluation period. At the end of the next two years, if the Mountain West keeps playing at this level (Utah in the Sugar Bowl in 2008, TCU in the Fiesta Bowl in 2009), the MWC will get an automatic bid for 2012-2013. That should keep Utah Senator Orrin Hatch, a big BCS critic, at bay for a while. Or maybe not.

 **–There were a bunch of head scratchers in the draft but none more puzzling than what happened to Georgia Tech running back Jonathan Dwyer. The 2008 ACC Player of the Year had over 2,700 yards rushing the past two seasons and, when he turned his paperwork into the NFL, received word that he should be picked in the first or second round. Dwyer fell to the sixth round, taken No. 188 by Pittsburgh. He did test positive for a prescription drug taken for ADD, but that was not an issue with the NFL. Dwyer has also battled his weight (229 pounds or more on a 5-11 frame) and I know some NFL teams wondered about that. But someone suggested yesterday that Dwyer’s issue was Georgia Tech’s offensive system. That sounds like a recruiting junkie instead of somebody evaluating talent. If Paul Johnson’s offense was the problem, why did Dwyer get such a good NFL evaluation in the first place? I can’t think of anything NFL backs are asked to do that Dwyer can’t do.

**–I think this may come up in the May recruiting period. The SEC had 49 players selected in the draft followed by the Big Ten (34), ACC (31), Big 12 (30), and Pac-10 (29). The SEC has won four straight national championships and Alabama, the defending national champion, is a likely preseason No. 1. But here is an interesting stat: All 12 schools in the SEC had at least one player chosen in the draft: Alabama (7), Arkansas (1), Auburn (2), Florida (9), Georgia (5), Kentucky (3), LSU (6), Ole Miss (4), Mississippi State (2), South Carolina (2), Tennessee (6), Vanderbilt (2).

The ACC had 30 players chosen in the draft for the sixth straight year. Since 2005 only the ACC and SEC have had 30 or more players chosen in the draft every year. The breakdown: Clemson (5), Virginia Tech (5), Georgia Tech (4), Miami (4), Florida State (3), Maryland (2), North Carolina (2), N.C. State (2), Wake Forest (2), Boston College (1), Virginia (1).

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105 comments Add your comment

UA Alum92

April 27th, 2010
12:50 pm

Hugo, good comment and GREAT handle. Fantastic movie!

Tide Rising

April 27th, 2010
12:52 pm

I hope the Mountain West does get an automatic bid. They certainly deserve it with performances by Utah, BYU, and TCU over the last several years and the Mountain West’s domination of the Pac 10 in recent years going something like 5-1 and 6-0 over 2 years.

Jevan Snead, What on earth was he thinking when he came out?

GoldenJacketClassof84

April 27th, 2010
12:56 pm

Somebody needs to ask Coach Johnson this one simple question – WHY can’t we wind a bowl game?

We dominate the ACC and play UGaG close but continue to get blasted in our bowl games.

On one hand he tells us we have bigger fish to fry than worrying about a loss to UGaG, but where are these bigger fish to fry if not the bowl game?

Matt the Brave

April 27th, 2010
1:16 pm

Ug. 5-7 bowl teams. Really? Why not just have all 120-some odd teams play in a playoff…aw. Did I just bring that up?

The rest of us

April 27th, 2010
1:20 pm

GoldenJacketClassof84, which bowl game did you last “wind”?

gcs

April 27th, 2010
1:23 pm

It used to be that the off-season was called the “silly season”. Now it’s looks like that honor will be bestowed upon college bowl season. There used to be a time not that long ago when being 7-5 would not get you into a bowl game.

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Jay Berwanger

April 27th, 2010
1:32 pm

Has the NCAA or banned players from making the flag-pulling gesture to the referees as part of their revised taunting rules? It is really a disrespectful gesture, and should result in an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

dawgfan

April 27th, 2010
1:36 pm

LOL. UNC? Maybe they padded those rush D stats with an OOC slate that included the Citadel, UCONN, East Carolina, and Georgia Southern.

Look, this really isn’t about Dwyer. Its about all the pinhead Techies that considered his 1st round selection a birthright and then demanded an immediate investigation from the AJC when it didn’t happen. The Techies act as if a horrible wrong has been perpitrated on them. Techies always want to play the victim and whine. It couldn’t be that NFL teams just didn’t think that highly of Dwyer. Nooooo, of course not. There must be something else more insidious to explain this. Everybody is always out to get the poor Yellow Jackets. The refs, the media, Georgia fans, the “football factories,” and in this case the NFL. Cry babies cry.

Sorry, I just don’t like Tech fans. Nothing personal.

Halberstram

April 27th, 2010
1:38 pm

Probably mentioned, but come on Tony there are two things the Ga. Tech offense never asked Dwyer to do that are very important in the NFL: pass blocking and receiving. He’s a great runner but wasn’t a complete running back, which is likely why teams kept passing on him.

Ormewood

April 27th, 2010
2:13 pm

Dawgfan, UConn is the same team that crushed South Carolina from the vaunted SEC in their bowl game in SEC territory.

GoldenJacketclassof 84, how is it that Tech “dominates” the ACC. Yes, you won the conference last season, but hardly dominated. When was the last time you won the ACC prior to last season?

Paul Johnson

April 27th, 2010
2:14 pm

If anybody asks about my bowl record, I’m gonna punch em right in the face!

misterwax

April 27th, 2010
2:18 pm

Tony – regarding Jonathan Dwyer, if he has been on Ritalin or Aderal (spelling?) since he was in grade school, then there is a storng possibility that he has an enlarged heart. These dangerous public school policies of administering Class II Amphetamines to little boys to dope them up from K- 12 is having serious long term effects. Did you know that if you are a Ritalin kid, that you can not legally enlist in the military? You need to lie on your application that you have never taken amphetamines… So Dwyer may be well medicated but he may also have the heart muscle of a 55 year old man who has an enlarged left ventricle…. not NFL quality for a physical. I don’t know how GT or some doctor swept this under the rug for so long.

HugoStiglitz

April 27th, 2010
2:20 pm

yes dawgfan, UNC did play some cupcake teams just like every other team does. Dwyer rushed for 158 yards against them. That is more rushing yards by himself then any other team had against UNC. A good rushing team like VT only had 95 against UNC. They shut down everyone they played except GT, and Dwyer.

tiger7_88

April 27th, 2010
2:30 pm

Tony, you get to be such a fan-boy of coaches that you sometimes don’t see the forest for the trees.

The PRIMARY problame for any quarterback that plays for Ole Miss, Jevan Snead or someone else, is named “Houston” last name “Nutt”.

Jevan Snead staying another year would NOT have solved that problem.

dawgpower

April 27th, 2010
2:30 pm

dawgfan: Did you graduate from UGa? Have you ever set foot on the campus? Sounds like you have some personal issues. Why are you so wrapped up with a guy you really know nothing about? Nothing personal: I just have a tough time with insouciant hysteria.

(Yeah, go ahead. Look it up.)

ozzfest

April 27th, 2010
2:33 pm

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY GEORGIA WILL EVER END UP PLAYING A “NAME” NON-CONFERENCE GAME.

EVEN WHEN UGA WINS BIG….2002….2005….2007, WE END UP PLAYING THE WORST-POSSIBLE BCS OPPONENT…….AN 8-4 FSU TEAM….WEST VIRGINIA…AND HAWAII.

…AND WE ALL KNOW THE UGAA PHONES WILL NOT DIAL ANY NUMBER IN ANN HARBOR, SOUTH BEND, OR AUSTIN IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET ONE. THE PHONES IN ATHENS ONLY CONNECT TO LOUISVILLE AND CLEMSON….YAWN.

dawgvomit

April 27th, 2010
2:39 pm

Climpson? Climpson? I doubt it. And, I KNOW why Dwyer slipped. Because he is not nice, he stinks, he is ugly, he picks up the pinata candy too fast, and I don’t like GT. That’s why. So there. You guys need to learn the REAL reasons behind the NFL draft. I know.

matt

April 27th, 2010
2:41 pm

College football represents society these days. Keep rewardng mediocrity. Don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. Why should they get to play in a bowl and not us, it’s not fair!!

goatD

April 27th, 2010
2:57 pm

matt, you are right on it. That, and of course, the “Hey, we left one more dime on the sidewalk,” mentality.

Delbert D.

April 27th, 2010
3:05 pm

Who watches, much less attends, the great majority of bowls? Watching two 6-6 teams that finished in the middle of their conference is not good drama, it’s a waste of the resources of the host cities, the fossil fuel to get the teams there, and brain cells of non-affiliated fans sitting on their behinds in their Barcaloungers.

Gator88

April 27th, 2010
3:07 pm

The more games the better. Like I do with the hockey playoffs-if you don’t like it don’t watch!!!!!

Can we talk more about future and not past.

Let’s talk about some sleepers and/or freshmen that might impact the SEC this year? or ACC. whatever. I don’t have time to study charts, read websites and what not like most of the UGA GT geeks on here but enjoy this article and board so enlighten me!!!

jaybow

April 27th, 2010
3:07 pm

Usually, you have to risk something to gain something significant. The SEC saw this in 1988, while the Big Ten could only see the “but, hey, our feature team could LOSE that game, too.” Now they are clambering to get to at least 12 teams so they can have a champ. game, too…..two decades later. Hey, UGa….same lesson. Schedule Notre Dame or somebody besides Athens High for your non-conference games, and you might make some headway.

Pago Pago Trojan

April 27th, 2010
3:11 pm

So why knock average teams going to bowls. The bowl trips are fun for the teams, fans, bands, alumni etc., and it helps the local economy!

The Gainesville Sun

April 27th, 2010
3:15 pm

Come check me out Gator88. I’ll give you all you need to know.

Delbert D.

April 27th, 2010
3:16 pm

The PAC 10 and the Mountain West should merge to total 16 teams. The new conference would be known as The Best Western.

G8R GRAD

April 27th, 2010
3:42 pm

Pago Pago Trojan said:

“So why knock average teams going to bowls. The bowl trips are fun for the teams, fans, bands, alumni etc., and it helps the local economy!”

And I agree. The more football on after the season’s end, the better.
It’s all about to end for another year and I want all I can stand!

Tide Rising

April 27th, 2010
3:54 pm

I love the idea of more bowl games. So what if its two 5-7 teams squaring off. At least they are equally matched and if its the only game being played on say a Tuesday night bowl then I’m watching it.

I enjoy watching and betting on all the MAC games that come on during Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Fridays during the regular season and I know other guys that like betting on these games. Teams like Ball State that went something like 12-1 a year or so ago and teams like Miami of Ohio when they have a Ben Rothlisberger,etc. If we have more bowls and we could pair something like an upper level MAC team like a Ball State against somebody like a 5-7 Mississippi state than we probably will end up having a good game.

If someone doesn’t like it then just don’t watch it.

Tide Rising

April 27th, 2010
3:55 pm

Delbert D.

The best western? Thanks for the chuckle.

Reptiles Rule

April 27th, 2010
4:18 pm

Reading the News, Sports, and Weather in the Tampa Tribune, The Orlando Sentinel or St Petersburg Times= $ .50 to $1.00. Reading about UGA players transfering or booted off the team in the AJC= Priceless.

G8R GRAD

April 27th, 2010
4:48 pm

Enter your comments here

G8R GRAD

April 27th, 2010
4:49 pm

Gen Neyland

April 27th, 2010
4:58 pm

Reptiles Rule : Know this guy..? I’m sure they will be more for you, for me, for all. Whoooppeeee. Party on, Lizards.

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/2/15/1311010/the-curious-index-2-15-10

HAHAHA

April 27th, 2010
5:00 pm

Hey alright, now maybe tech can get into bowl games more than once in a blue moon LOL.

Dink

April 27th, 2010
5:02 pm

Tony:

A little off the subject but do you have any G2 on USC and Bush? Everything I’m hearing sounds like the Trojans will skate. Thanks and…

Go Dawgs!

Delbert D.

April 27th, 2010
5:19 pm

Alright, let’s do the lipstick on a pig thing. The best 10 bowls get to be called “Bowl,” and the other 25 must be called “Cup.”

Reptiles Rule

April 27th, 2010
5:34 pm

Neyland…I don’t make a habit to read yesterdays newspaper much less one from over 3 months ago. If I wanted to read yesterdays newspapers, I’d go all the way back to the Kiffin glory days at UT. I just love armed robbery mysteries! Speaking or which, hows the “lookout man” looking this year? Now THAT was an example of some “strong armed” discipline, eh? But I realize that’s things are much much different now under the Doolster. And send my regards to the Myles kid, how’s his discipline thing working out??

Jake

April 27th, 2010
5:36 pm

Heck let them all go to post season bowls. More games to watch.

Reptiles Rule

April 27th, 2010
5:49 pm

Yep, looks like ole Smokey and Uga will be hoofin’ it for third or fourth place in the EAST this year!

CatsFly

April 27th, 2010
7:07 pm

How many will UNC have drafted next year? Could be as many as 8.

Jax Dawg

April 27th, 2010
7:32 pm

Exactly how many failed drug tests does it take to suspend a football player at the University of Florida? Aaron Hernandez fails to the 4th round because of “multiple” failed drug tests for marijuana? The top 10% of the top 10% my butt.

Nesbitt for Heisman

April 27th, 2010
8:20 pm

Enter your comments here

Dick Nixon

April 27th, 2010
8:23 pm

Urban PSYCHO Myer could not pass a drug test

Gen Neyland

April 27th, 2010
10:03 pm

Reptile : Careful down in The Bog. History repeats. What is it about some of those Florida kids..? You can take ‘em out of Florida but you can’t take the Florida out of ‘em..? Well, we tried to give them a better life…

thunderbull56

April 27th, 2010
10:08 pm

Reptiles Rule

April 27th, 2010
10:47 pm

Neyland…Let’s just say the “Fulmer Cup” wasn’t named after anybody down here in Florida and leave it at that…

Scorekeeper

April 27th, 2010
11:44 pm

Reptiles Rule and General Neyland,

Speaking of the Fulmer Cup this year it looks like Georgia is not only leading us all in their quest for the Fulmer cup but they are blowing us all out. Can the dawgs go a day without a player arrest?

#2 BAMA FAN

April 28th, 2010
4:33 am

Alabama won the Fulmer cup back in 07 with Shula recruits trying to piss off Saban. Most of the players got ran off and Saban finally made the rest of players grown up and start learning how to act
and have a winning program. RTR

Reptiles Rule

April 28th, 2010
8:15 am

Saban did a good job of cleaning up that program and now I see that Alabama is ranked number #1 in Winter term All-SEC Academic student athletes closely followed by Florida with Georgia a little further back in third so congrats to all of those schools for a great showing.

Jax Dawg

April 28th, 2010
8:39 am

Guess you don’t know either, Reptiles Rule?

Florida players rarely do well in the NFL

April 28th, 2010
8:48 am

Yes, 5-7 teams will play so bowls like toiletcleaningservice.com bowl can make money.