Sorry, Dawg fans. But Gators look like the class of the SEC East again

 It was a busy weekend of Spring Football. So what did we learn?

 1. SEC East opponents who are expecting—or hoping—for a huge drop off at Florida may be disappointed. Of course Florida will not be as good this season as the past two seasons when the Gators went 26-2. The personnel losses—QB Tim Tebow, CB Joe Haden, DE Carlos Dunlap, LB Brandon Spikes, TE Aaron Hernandez—are just too great. But Florida clearly has its quarterback in John Brantley, who completed 15 of 19 passes for 201 yards in the spring game. The Gators obviously have a lot of guys who can catch the ball like Andre Dubose, a big time recruit who sat out last season after hamstring surgery, Carl Moore and Chris Rainey. They have two options to run the “Tebow package” in Trey Burton and tight end Jordan Reed. Yes, there is a lot of work to do on defense. But when you look at the schedule, Florida will be favored in every game it plays except for an Oct. 2 trip to Alabama and possibly a Nov. 27 trip to Florida State. The rest of the SEC East has even more issues than the Gators. Somebody in that division, like Georgia or South Carolina, is going to have to step up. Florida is coming back to the field this  season, but not that much.

 

2. It’s official. Tennessee is building for the long haul. Dave Hooker of the Knoxville News-Sentinel made this point over the weekend and I agree with it. The departure of quarterback Nick Stephens, who was losing his first team snaps, is further confirmation that new Tennessee coach Derek Dooley is in the process of changing the football culture back to something more stable and reliable than the blip of the Lane Kiffin area. The coaching staff pretty much knew Stephens was not going to be the guy, but at least he had played. They could have given him enough snaps to keep him in the program for insurance for this season.

 Whereas the Kiffin regime was all about selling Tennessee as the Southern Cal of the East and as a spring board to the NFL, Dooley wants to create a more stable environment and sell the entire experience at Tennessee: program, tradition, education, football, etc. I still think that approach can work with NFL obsessed teenagers and parents if it is sold correctly.

But it is a long-term approach that requires patience. Will the Tennessee fans have patience? The Tennessee fans I talk to absolutely know the deal and are prepared for the struggle ahead. It will be an interest process to watch.

 

3. All Clemson can do is wait for June: This much seems pretty clear after Clemson’s spring game on Saturday. If Kyle Parker returns as the Tiger quarterback, Dabo Swinney’s bunch can win the ACC Atlantic division for the second straight year. Despite a practice schedule interrupted from time to time by his commitment to the Clemson baseball team, Parker completed seven of 15 passes for 75 yards in the spring game. The numbers don’t tell Parker’s story. His presence does. Parker is expected to have a big decision to make after the Major League Draft in June. If the up-front money is good, does he walk away from college football and turn the job over to redshirt freshman Tajh Boyd? Boyd, who was once committed to Tennessee, is going to be a very good quarterback. He just isn’t ready right now.

 

4. Stephen Garcia would be wise to do a lot of throwing—and a lot of thinking—this summer. As a third-year starter you would think that the light is starting to come on for South Carolina quarterback Stephen Garcia. Unfortunately for the star-crossed junior there continues to be a short between his talented arm and his less than finely tuned decision making process. After Saturday’s spring game, a time when a quarterback with 16 starts should be in control, head coach Steve Spurrier refused to even acknowledge Garcia as the starter. “Stephen should be our best player but sometimes he doesn’t act like it or perform like it,” Spurrier told The State newspaper in Columbia. My advice to the young man: Don’t go to the beach this summer. Don’t go out partying with your friends. Spend every free moment throwing to your receivers and watching film.  In other words, work on your game. Your head coach thinks you’re lazy and has made it clear that he will not go into this season with you as the only option at quarterback. Spurrier once benched Danny Wuerffel, 1996 the Heisman Trophy winner. If freshman Connor Shaw proves to be a viable option, the Head Ball Coach will bench you.

 

5. A healthy Christian Ponder will contend for the Heisman Trophy: Ponder, Florida State’s rising senior quarterback, was playing as well as anybody in the country last November when he decided to tackle Clemson safety DeAndre McDaniel during an interception return. The monster hit caved in Ponder’s right shoulder and he was done for the year. There was some concern that he might not be ready for spring ball, but last Saturday he completed 16 of 34 passes for 266 yards and two touchdowns in the spring game. Despite missing the last four games of the 2009 season, Ponder led the ACC in total offense with an average of 321.8 yards. “He’s gotten better every day that he has been on our campus,” head coach Jimbo Fisher told me. “He knows exactly what he is doing out there.” With a veteran offensive line and improving receivers, I think this guy is going to have a monster year.

 

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Gen Neyland

April 12th, 2010
9:15 am

From KNS :

UT fans repeatedly have confirmed their loyalty with 90,000-plus crowds. That’s not lost on all the players.

Senior quarterback Nick Stephens, who quit UT’s football team Thursday, provided a testament to Vols fans in an interview with colleague Dave Hooker.

“It’s almost to the point that it’s almost surprising how supportive they are because of the bad times we’ve had and the success that we haven’t given to them,” he said. “I want to thank them for everything they’ve done.”

Stephens is right. UT fans should be commended for their support.

Typical Gator Fan

April 12th, 2010
9:17 am

Finally, an article I can comment on and actually be on subject. Work ‘em, Silly Gators!!!

SOUTHGADAWG88

April 12th, 2010
9:17 am

The FLA spring game means about as much as the UGA spring game.Nothing.They have lost a lot of playmakers and have a new Defensive staff to boot.The Gator should be back in 2012 but they and Bama are going to lose a few games this year.

david White

April 12th, 2010
9:18 am

Tony-Do you see Georgia winning eight or nine games this year? Their quarterback Saturday looked pretty good. Has kind of a long last name. Is their defense better?

kyle

April 12th, 2010
9:20 am

SOUTHJAWJADAWG— UF and Alabama might lose some games this year, but one thing is certain. The Gators will beat the Dawgs…… AGAIN.

Bulldog59

April 12th, 2010
9:29 am

TB is right. Talk all you want, UF is the team to beat again in the East. They reloaded quickly. Only SC and UGA seem to have a chance at mounting an attack to dethrone them. With all the changes and questions at Georgia (QB, D, Special Teams), it’s a real challenge for us to do it in 2010.

Mikey

April 12th, 2010
9:29 am

Tony, you are basing your opinion on spring games where they show nothing to the opposition?
I am disappointed.

IAM4UF229

April 12th, 2010
9:31 am

17 out of 20

All Jealous

April 12th, 2010
9:36 am

Auburn is a Joke!

“2nd tier to Alabama”

HardTruth Soldier....

April 12th, 2010
9:46 am

Tony, While I think your right about UF’s talent, I think losing Charlie Strong is going to make a huge difference. The adjustments and new personel will take at least a year. I see Georgia winning the east simply off the strength of there Offense. Look at the skilled positions, and they can line up with anybody in the country. Plus CMR knowing this is pretty much a make or break year is going to have OC Bobo on a short leash. Add in the fact that they’ve replaced there ‘tougher” opponents with a softer schedule and you might be witnessing a recipe for success…..SC could and should be better, but don’t blame the Ole Ball Coach, he simply can’t keep the talent in that state, although the signing of M Lattimore was a big plus for the team and the state, he has to many obstacles working against him (A lazy Garcia) to be top notch….. Tony last but not least, love your writing (buffer) but we in SEC land don’t care about the ACC Boys. Send that stuff to there page. With 5 national titles in a decade do you think the ACC Boys deserve to be talked about in the same breath as the SEC ?

boog

April 12th, 2010
9:46 am

No apology necessary Mr. College Football. Your opinion is neither more educated or valued than most of your readers.

JB

April 12th, 2010
10:04 am

Tony, with all the folks the crocs lost, on and off the field, I don’t know that much could truly be learned, at all, from their game. I also think that with as many folks as they lost on D, again, coaches included, their O should have looked good.

HBTD!!!

Tony Barnhart

April 12th, 2010
10:08 am

Mikey….Assessments and opinions are not based on spring games where, I agree, not a lot is learned. They are based on visits to campus and conversations with players and coaches. But the spring game, and thus the end of spring practice, is a good time to take stock of where a program is.

HardTruth Soldier, I appreciate your passion. But this blog will cover the SEC, ACC, and some national issues. That’s what we do. Lots of ACC fans in this marketplace.

SOUTHGADAWG88

April 12th, 2010
10:11 am

Kyle we will see what happens that’s why they play the games.

Alphare

April 12th, 2010
10:14 am

If Garcia is lazy, why doesn’t coach Spur set a minimal requirement? If the guy doesn’t meet the requirement, kick him out of the team.

Spur doesn’t seem to be a great coach to me in that front. It seems to me that he wins in Florida because Florida is a talent rich state, and he doesn’t win in SC because SC is a talent poor state. That tells me he is just a regular guy. Not a Saban in my mind anyway.

NEGa

April 12th, 2010
10:18 am

In regard to the title of your column: What’s new? Did anybody expect anything different?

WonderDawg

April 12th, 2010
10:18 am

Remember, Dawg fans, Bama, went 6-6 in Saban’s first year. I takes more than one spring and summer to install a new D, especially with a group that neither could cover or tackle last season. Be patient with Grantham and by 2011, our D will be ferocious.

We still have Bobo directing our offense, so it’s matters no who the QB will be. Bobo cannot outcoach the elite SEC DCs, so we will beat most of the teams we should beat, and will get shut down by the better teams. Hopefully in 2011, we will have a NFL caliber OC to get the offense on track, and then seriously compete for the SEC again.

Gator Guy

April 12th, 2010
10:23 am

TB – The Gators a road dog at Bama? Sure. At FSU? Ron Zook Field? No Way!

SOGADOG

April 12th, 2010
10:25 am

We shall see. I will save this article and look at it after the Ga. Fla. game. I seem to remember you picked Ga. Tech to dominate Georgia last year and you were wrong on that one. No offense, but I hope you are wrong again. The Dawgs have the talent to compete with Florida. The unknown this coming year will be the coaching and I like what is happening in that category at UGA.

SOUTHGADAWG88

April 12th, 2010
10:38 am

I don’t think that Saban or Richt could turn it around at SC…the state produces decent talent but a lot of the very best don’t want to go to SC.Been that way for many years and I don’t think it has anything to do with coaching.

Resign or Resign?

April 12th, 2010
10:39 am

Dooley at Tenn. = Shula at ‘Bama!

florabama

April 12th, 2010
10:42 am

Don’t be sorry Tony. Dawg fans are okay with being 2nd or 3rd. You know, Richt record is 90 wins in 9 yrs. That seems to keep everyone happy as blue birds in the sunshine.

Gerald

April 12th, 2010
10:44 am

Flo-Ri-Duh!

Excuse me, but the last time that Urban Meyer lost 4 games was when? In 2007, when Tebow played half the season hurt and the team had absolutely no defense. Every other year in Meyer’s career … at Utah, Bowling Green, and Florida, he has lost 3 games or less. Not like UGA, which has lost 4 games or more 3 times, including 2 of the last 4, and has lost at least 3 games in every single year but 2002 (when the schedule wasn’t that tough).

And Meyer has lost coaches before. That is what happens when you hire a staff filled with promising head coaches, and not guys like Bobo and Martinez. Former Meyer assistants have been made coaches at Bowling Green, Utah, BYU, Nevada, Mississippi State and Louisville, and another is a defensive coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens. Meanwhile, the next Richt assistant to become a head coach will be the first. (Or make that second if you count Brian Van Gorder’s being head coach of Georgia Southern for a year.) Even if it is Muschamp and Smart, they will owe their advancement to Saban, not Richt. If Meyer has overcome losing all those key assistants in the past, he will keep doing it.

Their new coordinators, who come from the NFL, will have new coverages, blitzes and approaches than Charlie Strong, who is a lifetime college guy (Notre Dame, South Carolina, Florida). It is hilarious … you Bulldogs hire Todd Grantham from the NFL to take over a bad defense and put in a completely new scheme that you don’t have the talent for and you expect your defense to get BETTER. But Florida hires Heater and Austin from the NFL to coach a GOOD defense in the SAME SCHEME, and their defense is going to get WORSE?

Also, it isn’t like you need a great defense at Florida to beat UGA anyway. Before Spurrier hired Bob Stoops, his defenses were terrible, and did he ever lose to you guys? And when Ron Zook was Florida’s head coach, the defenses were terrible, and he still went 2-1. The reason is that against top teams and especially Florida, UGA’s offense doesn’t do a whole lot. Do you guys honestly think that you are going to have a consistent downfield passing game or consistent protection and avoid dumb penalties and dropped passes this year in Athens when you haven’t had either in Richt’s entire season except 2002, when Richt was playing Donnan’s recruits up front?

Grantham may nor may not be a good coordinator, but Richt is still the coach, and Bobo is still the coordinator. Meyer has proven over a long time at 3 schools to be a better coach than Richt, and if Bobo were any good at coordinator, you’d think that at the very least a Sun Belt or Conference USA school would have tried to hire him as head coach by now. The truth is that South Carolina has a better chance of winning the SEC East than you guys do.

POAD

April 12th, 2010
10:48 am

Thanks for some ACC stuff. We are in the South and covered with the ACC and the SEC. If your are going to talk Heisman in the ACC i think you are going to add Josh Nesbitt @ TECH too. The UGA/USC game will go along way to deciding the SEC EAST and that will be both teams second game of the year. Dooley should have no problem selling UT, but he will have to sell himself as a capable coach. Dooley has done little to prove he deserves such a high profile job. It is great we still have months until kickoff but what other sport is worth talking about like College Football?

SOUTHGADAWG88

April 12th, 2010
10:48 am

That’s why they play the games.All the pundits had AUB winning 4-5 games.

UT96

April 12th, 2010
10:52 am

Resign, you have no way of knowing that. I tend to believe Dooley will make a fine coach at UT, not to mention, a man of character.

Gerald

April 12th, 2010
10:54 am

POAD:

If this were a basketball blog, then talk about the ACC. Even there, you’d have to talk about the SEC, because Florida won 2 back to back titles and Tennessee went to the Elite Eight. But in football, the mid-majors and even the Big East are more relevant than the ACC is. The ACC hasn’t had a team in the national title game since 2000, and it hasn’t had a team other than FSU even play for the title since the Yellow Jackets in 1991 (against #21 Nebraska in the Gator Bowl). And the ACC has the worst record in BCS bowl games of all the conferences, worse than the WAC (2-1), Mountain West (2-1) and the Big East.

Josh Nesbitt would be a likely Heisman candidate had he played better against Iowa, his shot at the big stage. But as it is, even if he took Tech to a 13-0 record, he isn’t going to be a Heisman candidate unless his passing improves dramatically. Christian Ponder and Jacory Harris are far more likely ACC Heisman candidates, as well as perhaps the QB from Virginia Tech.

JC in Powder Springs

April 12th, 2010
10:55 am

Well Tony, all this time people were told Tebow was a special player. According to you he can be replaced easily by a QB who has a decent spring game and a backup TE/QB can be just as effective as Tebow too. Of course, an injury-plagued WR who has never produced anything on the SEC level is going to kick everyone’s butt. Moore and Rainey – you must be joking!

Gerald

April 12th, 2010
10:59 am

Southgadawg:

That was because Gene Chizik was a first year coach with a losing record who came to a program in disarray. No one knew what to expect. Meanwhile, Richt has been at UGA for going on 10 years, and has largely retained the same staff on offense. Grantham may be good, he may not be, but you can’t go from that 4-6 defense that Martinez was trying to run to a 3-4 defense in one year. It will take at least 2 and it may even take 3. And UGA is also starting their 3rd QB in 3 years, and won’t he be a redshirt freshman? And other than A.J. Green, his primary weapons will be a true sophomore TE and a true sophomore RB. Plus folks expect the same inconsistent line play and dumb penalties as always.

It would have been one thing had Richt hired a new defensive coordinator who ran a 4-6 or at least a 4-3 defense instead of a totally new scheme that requires different personnel and roles and philosophy, and had Richt also hired a new offensive coordinator and offensive line coach. But there is no reason to expect UGA to go any better than 10-3.

Gerald

April 12th, 2010
11:03 am

JC In Powder Springs:

Tebow made Florida a national title contender. But you don’t need Tebow to win the SEC, and especially not to win the SEC East. UGA fans think that the gap between Florida and Georgia was basically Tebow. You are nuts. Florida went 3-1 against UGA with Chris Leak at QB. And Florida dominated UGA last season without Tebow even doing much of anything.

Maybe Florida needs Tebow to run the table and beat Alabama, to go from being a very good team to being a great one, which is what special players do for their teams. (Or at least special players when they aren’t being coached by Richt and Bobo, who basically wasted the Green-Stafford-Moreno team.) But they don’t need Tebow to beat Georgia. They didn’t before Tebow and won’t after Tebow unless Richt hires a new offensive coordinator and offensive line coach.

Otto

April 12th, 2010
11:03 am

JC, Tebow was special, UF after Urban recruiting for the Tebow years has enough talent that Brantly will not have to should as much to win. Also UT and Vandy are worse than Tebow ever faced. S Car will be another rollercoaster season. UGA has a new yet to be named QB and DC. Yes UF will be the front runner.

Otto

April 12th, 2010
11:06 am

Gerald, this UGA fan does not think the gap was Tebow. UGA did not have a game plan last year to compete with UF on offense, defense, or kick offs.

Hopefully, that has changed with Granthan and company along with CMR stepping in on QB meetings.

gernblanksi

April 12th, 2010
11:08 am

I seem to remember the same types of things being said about the Gators in 2007. They were reloading, the offense looked good and the SEC East was theirs. What happened? Their defense was awful and even though Tebow won the Heisman, UF lost to Georgia and UT won the East.

If UF’s defense is good then they will be the favorite. The are losing their two best DL’s, LB’s and DB’s to the NFL. They have a new D-Coordinator and will use a new system. Lots of obstacles to overcome.

USC is the favorite.

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Call It Like It Is

April 12th, 2010
11:19 am

Amen to picking the Gators to Win the East again in 2010!

Enough Said!

Otto

April 12th, 2010
11:19 am

SCar doesn’t have the depth to be a favorite.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

April 12th, 2010
11:20 am

i think it’s too early to tell for everyone. UGA, UT, UF- all new QBs, some have new coaches on both sides of the ball. the question will be which teams/players can minimize injuries between now and kickoff and improve their style of play. otherwise, as of 04/12- it’s a crapshoot.

Paul The Vol

April 12th, 2010
11:24 am

We knew we would struggle the next few years regardless of who the coach was. Too many poor recruiting classes in Fulmer’s final years and unusually high attrition have taken their toll. After two good recruiting classes there is plenty of talent to build on but it will take a couple of years before we get any results. This upcoming recruiting class is absolutely essential to rebuilding the program and keeping momentum.

Fred

April 12th, 2010
11:26 am

“Florida” and “class” in the same sentence? Hard to buy that.

Dorsey Hill

April 12th, 2010
11:26 am

There is no doubt that UF should be the favorite due to the fact that the teams chasing them have so much to prove. However, if UGA plays as well as they are capable and stays healthy, I don’t see UF winning the East. Obviously, that is one big IF. Florida is a flawed team in that that can’t run the ball effectively and they’re very young on defense. Georgia’s shortcomings are in the lack of depth at wr and OLB and an unproven DL. If Georgia can run the ball, keep the turnovers and penalties down, and let Butler’s near 50 ypp avg. work to its advantage, Georgia is going to be a tough team to beat.

(The Real) ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
11:29 am

Tony, I have been to all but a couple of UF practices this spring and to most practices spring AND fall for the last 3 years. Yes, retirement DOES have its advantages. I will say that this is an athletic total group that is as talented as I have seen. This may be the best (certainly the fastest) group of linebackers we have ever had and that’s really saying something when you just lost a Spikes and Stamper. But Jon Bostic and Jelani Jenkins have “superstar” written all over them if they have the good fortune of staying healthy. Speaking of staying healthy, big Branden Beal is right there challenging them at every scrimmage. We have a 3rd team linebacker named Lorenzo Edwards who could start for any team in our conference but perhaps Alabama. And all though most of our O line did not play much this spring, come fall they will be an all veteran group with 4 out of 5 having national championship game playing experience. The D line will have Marsh and Sanders back as well. But Omar Hunter and Jaye Howard have really played well this spring and might be hard to displace. And in the fall will be coming the most hearlded DL recruits in the history of UF including Army All American Ronald Powell, 6-3 315 lb top rated Rivals tackle Sharif Floyd and AA All American Dominique Easley. My only BIG concern on D is that one cornerback spot opposite of Janoris Jenkins and that might not even be determined into a couple of games in the season when the real bullets fly. But with Ahmad Black and Will Hill back as safeties, it should be a very solid group………..Now of course, injuries and chemistry are something you can’t get a handle on until it really gets going. And yes, I agree that FSU will be a handful up in Tally this year. My prediction…UF goes 10-2 and easily wins the East. Bama will be tough “out’ and will lose 1 game on their side of the bracket. Then it’s Game On in the Dome.

TommyP

April 12th, 2010
11:30 am

Let me preface my comments by saying I’m a Dawg fan….

That said, Florida is “the team to beat.” I don’t know if they’re the best team but after the success that they’ve had, they stay at the top until someone knocks them off the perch. They’ve earned it.

I do see some dropoff this year from Florida. I think they’ll pass more and generate a lot of points that way vs. the lesser teams. But offensively, they need to find a running game this year.

Defensively, they’ll have talent but not necessarily experience. The problem here is the new scheme and losing a great, great defensive coordinator in Strong.

So….it’s there for Georgia to take but that’s the kicker. They have to TAKE it away from Florida this year ’cause they won’t give up the top spot easily.

icedawg

April 12th, 2010
11:30 am

Gotta have something to write about. Spring football is hardly the stuff from which to make next season predictions. One thing for sure, this upcoming SEC season should be more competitive than the previous ones. There has been a changing of the guard in players as well as coaches. Charlie Strong is gone at Florida. Willie Martinez is gone at Georgia. Players are gone, especially at Florida. So this coming season will be very interesting and fun to watch as it is played out.

SOUTHGADAWG88

April 12th, 2010
11:32 am

Gerald I am one who thinks Joe Cox was more the problem than the Defense last year.You can talk about style points if you like but there was not many games I can say the D was a bigger factor in the losses than TO’s and poor QB play.I like the TE’s and all but Charles has not done much more on the field than White to be honest.T.King is the next best weapon after AJ.I cant see anybody EXPECTING poor OL play…it was never a question of talent but depth on the line.Barring injuries they should be stout as it was they led the SEC in fewest sacks allowed which goes to show that Cox simply made poor decisions.This year is different on offense last year we didn’t know who the QB,RB,TE or WR’s outside of AJ would be.I do agree that Bobo will get some heat this year but this year it would be deserved.As for the defense all I care about is shaving 5-6 pts off of the scoring average from last season.

TommyP

April 12th, 2010
11:33 am

General Neyland: You’re spot on with the UT nation and how loyal they are. I live in Knoxville and it’s pretty impressive the loyalty they show. They seem skeptical of what Dooley will do but they’re very willing to give him some time.

SaintsLSU

April 12th, 2010
11:33 am

I think the East is pretty wide open. Florida losing Charlie Strong will impact the Gators similiar to the way Bo Pelini leaving LSU’s defense. The winner of the East will have 2 conference losses. Probably Florida will win it because their losses will be in the West (Bama & LSU). But Dr. Noisewater is right, a little to early to tell, that was just my guess.

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
11:33 am

Seems the demise of the gators has been greatly exaggerated by some rival fans on this blog.

What I keep reading is that people are saying that Brantley looked once again like a seasoned veteran in the UF spring game. His 15 of 19 performance was against the no. 1 defense and he was missing 4 O-lineman. Factor that in and he looks even more impressive. Look for the gators to not only be the division favorite but a heavy favorite at that.

Stephen Garcia- He may never grow up.

Christian Ponder- Looks like he also is the real deal and will have a monster season. A friend told me that Ponder graduated in 2 1/2 years. Its hard to graduate in 3 years with no job or time absorbing endeavor like football. Can’t imagine someone doing it in 2 1/2 while playing D-1 football.

Maybe the UF-FSU game will actually finally be competitive again. Wouldn’t that be something to see.

UT- The road is long. I’m not impressed with a 17-20 record. Dooley reminds me of Mike Shula to a tee. Says all the right things, looks good, has the pedigree with the last name, has all the ingredients for success except that of a proven, winning track record.

5IML

April 12th, 2010
11:35 am

Florida by default in the East
Florida v Bama for the second time in 2010 for SECC

tell it like it is

April 12th, 2010
11:37 am

Call it like it is—tebows presence on the field along with his leardership will surely be missed.I thank UF will have a tougher time staying on top in the east than most people think.

ugafan

April 12th, 2010
11:39 am

gerald is an idiot. do you think by writing large volumes of comments you actually think you’re smart and are making valid points? you’re retarded

UGADAWG 98

April 12th, 2010
11:44 am

I don’t care who has what…Until UGA can beat UF on a regular basis, UF will be the favored team to win the East every year. UT is down, USC is always “supposed to” have the breakthrough year, Vandy and Kentucky are after thoughts. UGA has a shot, as they do every year, but they have to start beating UF on a regular basis….I am a DAWG fan by the way…

Gatorzip74

April 12th, 2010
11:50 am

SaintsLSU— Why does UF lose to LSU? We play you in The Swamp and its not like you’re a huge jugernaut. You’ll be lucky if the Bayou Bengals finish third in the West (Bama, Auburn, Arkansas)

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
11:51 am

I see a recurring theme where some of the dog fans seem to think UGA can catch UF this year based on Charley Strong leaving and UF having a new D coordinator. Strong may have left but from what I understand UF will still be running the same style of defense. If anything I think UGA will be the defense at a disadvantage. Installing an entirely new 3-4 D will take several games if not a full season before the D fully catches on and is playing at full speed.

When Saban came to Bama and installed his 3-4 we only went 7-6 is first year. A lot of that can be attributed to us still lacking talent from the probation but a lot of it had to do with the players being in a whole new defense. A 3-4 is harder to learn than a base 4-3. Its more complicated and it really does take a while before you can really play full speed all the time without the hesitancy of knowing if you’re in the right gap, the right coverage, etc. If you watch a 3-4 you generally see a lot more moving around and pre-snap adjustments right before the snap. Just some food for thought for those of you who think you can pick up and learn a whole new defensive scheme relatively easily.

Gatorzip74

April 12th, 2010
11:52 am

ugafan– Actually he makes some very valid points. Start beating us and then maybe you’ll be considered as a contender year in and year out.

SaintsLSU

April 12th, 2010
11:59 am

GatorZip, LSU will be better than you think this year. Florida’s defense will struggle mightily this coming year. Strong meant a lot for the identiy of that team. And think about how many more players will get suspended at Thug U. I will say that Brantly looks like the real deal, but I think we are gonna get you guys this year. But like I said in my first post, just a guess, that is beauty of the offseason. Many teams think they can win, we’ll find out who soon enough.

DP

April 12th, 2010
12:00 pm

Alabama fans were actually pretty patient with Shula for his first 3+ years because they knew what a mess he inherited. But by the middle of year 4 it became apparent that Shula had not made any progress as a head coach and was overmatched in the SEC. I expect that most Tennessee fans understand that Dooley has also inherited a mess (3rd head coach in 3 years, thin junior and senior classes, no experience at QB, dominant programs in the conference at Florida and Alabama and UT plays both every year, etc.) and will show some patience. While Dooley has some similarities with Shula, I think the fact that he worked for Saban for 6 years is a pretty good endorsement. Nobody is going to win consistently at Louisiana Tech while they’re playing multiple BCS opponents every year to collect the paychecks.

I’ll be interested to see Florida this year. Clearly there is plenty of talent there, but I am a little puzzled that they need a backup QB to run “the Tebow package”. The defense can put 8 in the box when Florida sends in a run specialist on 3rd and 2. Whatever happened to having a big time tailback and handing him the ball in short yardage situations, or using him to credibly run a play action pass when the defense is crowding the line of scrimmage? For all their great recruiting at most positions, will Florida’s offensive philosophy give enough carries to the tailback to attract and retain big time running backs? I know Meyer is committed to the spread and there were a lot of questions about how it would work in the SEC. Now we can see how it will work without a Tebow.

As far as Garcia is concerned, other than the first year with Shane Matthews and the championship year with Wuerfel, has Spurrier every had a QB he wasn’t second guessing and threatening to yank from the game? If Spurrier’s teams could develop a running game he’d make the QB job a little easier. Since he’s been at SC the defense has carried his teams.

Bill E. Goat

April 12th, 2010
12:01 pm

People here are quite contradictory lamenting Florida losing Strong and players on D and then turning around and claiming UGA’s D will give them an edge because of Grantham. UGA lost just as many starters on D as UF but UF returns several players on D who have played a significant part in going 26-2 in the last 2 years and winning a National Championship. NO ONE knows how Grantham will do just as NO ONE KNOWS what impact losing Charlie Strong will have on UF. The Gators still have more talent and more experience on Defense.

PaulC

April 12th, 2010
12:09 pm

Tony, Tennessee fans have known the program has been down for years. What’s amazing is you guys in the media were so late to the game on this issue and didn’t lay the blame on Fulmer until it was obvious to everyone with eyes, ears, and a brain. Heck, you could’ve just visited any random UT message board since ‘05 and you would’ve known how pessimistic we’ve been. Knowledgeable fans were going to give Kiffin the benefit of the doubt until possibly 2012 because of the abysmal recruiting job Fulmer did, so Dooley has until then to build on the much improved recruiting classes of ‘09 – ‘10

mwh6767

April 12th, 2010
12:10 pm

I think IF and its a big IF UGA is going to win the SEC east this is the year they have to do it. UF has talent but they are not what they have been in the last couple of years. The question here is which team has developed by the time they meet. If Grantham has got the defense together then UGA has a real shot at this. I believe the writing is on the wall for Bobo. Richt didnt want to redo the offensive staff at the same time that he had the defensive staff done, too much change in one off season. Look for Richt to be heavily involved in the offensive gameplans, play calling, etc. His confidence in Bobo is gone.

knoxdawg

April 12th, 2010
12:11 pm

Gators are favorites till somebody beats them, plain and simple. There are opportunities but someone has to step up and take advantage. How hard the players work over the summer will be a big factor in how things go in the fall. Also, injuries could ruin a teams chances. If UGA can produce a dominant running game they can win the East. However, past years we all thought the running game would be good but it didn’t pan out. We will see how it all turns out come Novmember.

Duluth gator

April 12th, 2010
12:14 pm

Was at the UF spring game… don’t get to excited opposing SEC schools, Florida is still pretty good. Trey Burton fresh QB is better than thought, he looked very good and Brantley can throw the daylights out of the ball. Lots of starters did not play and UF still looks loaded.

help, I live in Ga

April 12th, 2010
12:18 pm

As far as the current state of the program in Knoxville: I talked to a couple of players this weekend who said that Nick Stephens loss is not bad at all because Matt Simms is a pretty strong leader and Tyler Brey continues to impress everybody–even at 190 pounds. So the QB postion should be ok.

As far as loosing Bryce Brown, they confirmed what I thought wich was that he wasn’t even the second best running back last year but since he was Kiffen’s media boy, he got the snaps instead of Tyrone Poole, who will do just fine this year.

That leaves a very weak O-line and a tough schedule so as far as patience for Dooley; Vos fans minumum standard for the next four years is:
5-7
7-5
8-4
9-3. And continue to improve.
I think most Vol fans could live with that. If he falls below that for two years, give the job to OC Jim Chaney–before someone else does. He’s a good coach.

War Eagle

April 12th, 2010
12:23 pm

It’s a good bet that the Heisman will come from the ACC or the SEC? Ponder-FSU, Nesbitt-GT, Williams and Taylor-VT, Harris-Miami, and the good defensive end at North Carolina (forgot name) or Mallett-ARK. or Ingram-ALA. These seem to be the early front runners, anyone else?

Dorsey Hill

April 12th, 2010
12:24 pm

UGADAWG 98,

Keep this in mind. The three times CMR won the East, 2002, 2003 and 2005 we lost to Florida each time. The two times we beat them 2004 and 2007, we did not win the East. In fact, with respect to the other years 2001, 2006, 2008 and 2009, only the 2008 loss was the difference between winning the East and not winning the East. So there is absolutely no East Championship/ beating Florida correlation. The importance of the series has been more impactful on the National stage. Beating Georgia has allowed UF to win 2 MNC’s in the 2000’s while Georgia’s losses to UF in 2002 and perhaps 2005 kept Georgia from playing for a MNC.

T.O

April 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

Rebuilding year for the Gators similiar to the 2007 season. I see them 8 and 4 maybe 9 and 3. They lost way too much on both offense and defense to do any better.

Lord of The Lizards

April 12th, 2010
12:26 pm

Two of the biggest misconceptions that many UGA fans have about Florida this year ( I say UGA because other fanbases, even National Champion Alabama fans, seem to have a much more realistic view)…1) Tebow is done and therefor so is UF…Obviously, you don’t just replace a guy like Tim Tebow, we all know that. But Florida coaches have had the rare luxury of having a couple of years to deal with that eventuality with Brantley in the fold. Most big time QBs would not have been willing to ride the pine for three years to wait their turn. Also, as Tony pointed out, with the the other two QBs Burton and Reed, you can keep that “Tebow” element in the offense even as you diversify into more of a tailback oriented running attack. And that makes you even MORE multi-dimensional. 2) Urban Meyer…the UGA fans like to characterise him as unstable and as a jerk but he has won wherever he has gone and won BIG time. He put Utah on the map and has been the Coach of the Year in all THREE conferences he has head coached in. And we all know what he has done at Florida so you can’t dispute his consistency as far as success. As far as being a jerk, I can understand why UGA fans would want to believe that but document ONE player…current, former, even a transfer or current NFLer who will agree with that assessment. The players love and revere him and the fans admire him. As far as unstablity… it is clear that he has had to work thru the issue of balancing his life and coaching which he is now doing by delegationg alot more of the “other” responsibilities. Everyone has commented this spring about how excited he is about this team and this upcoming season. Hopefully, he will be able to continue to find that balance but one thing is for sure…the passion is still strong. And I sure wouldn’t bet against the man.

BigTimeTECHFan

April 12th, 2010
12:29 pm

“IF” UGA is at the level they played at 3 years ago they should be equal with FL win the SEC East. UGA has easy schedule up until Florida game which will really help the confidence, which will help Georgia a lot and what UGA needs.

Oh Procter is back, crap, FSU may be team to watch out for.

Agree on Neisbitt, One of the best QB’s in the country last year

Pago Pago Trojan

April 12th, 2010
12:38 pm

We’re already scared to death of UF!

JB

April 12th, 2010
12:39 pm

Listening to this gerald character, I guess the rest of the SECE might as well just pack it in and not even show up. Sheeesh! Whatabuffoon!

HBTD!!!

Gator Mike (Original)

April 12th, 2010
12:42 pm

I just hope the Gators have a chip back on their shoulders rather than playing “tight” as they did last year. If the 2010 Gators play to their potential without being up tight, they will have a successful season. They should have learned a lot from the a$$ whipping they received from BAMA in the SECCG.
It is another season, and nobody has lost a game yet. Let the fun begin in September.
Good luck to everyone in the SEC.

Anonymous

April 12th, 2010
12:49 pm

CHOMP! CHOMP!

Anonymous

April 12th, 2010
12:50 pm

GO, you big, ugly, green lizards!

dawggirl

April 12th, 2010
12:51 pm

Lizard,

He may be a great coach, but I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be married to him. What a poor excuse for a husband and father.

DAWG FAN THAT SEE'S CLEARLY

April 12th, 2010
12:54 pm

I love the Dawgs , but this coming year is looking like 8 wins and happy to get them , I am very concerned with the offense (bobo) , and anybody with a little common sense better be concerned with the Defense until it has time to gel and the new coaches have to land their type of system players. I think Florida is the team to beat , they will be more explosive on offense which is a scary thought , I wouldn’t be surprised one bit to see the gaytors in the championship game.
now in a couple of years when we have a QB that doesn’t cox up the joint and a defense that knows what they are doing we may contend for a title , but I will be cheering for every win and loss just the same as long as the effort is there.

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
1:00 pm

JB,

Why are you guys so hard on Gerald? The guy makes some very valid points that a lot of people would agree with. As he pointed out Florida loses Charley Strong but they will still be running the same exact defense and system that the players know.

Strong was always a college coach but the new guys coming in were NFL guys. They will run the same scheme but will probably add some new looks and blitz packages that will make them even better than what they’ve been the last several years.

Georgia will be installing an entirely new system in the 3-4 along with new coaches on top of that. Having seen this at Bama in Saban’s first year(7-6) I can tell you that it took awhile before our defensive guys could really learn the 3-4 D and play at full speed.

In 2011 Georgia will have a chance to be a very good team. Whoever wins the qb job will be more comfortable in his 2nd year, King and Ealey will have grown up even more as well as the O-line, and your D will be much better after a full year in the 3-4. I can see the dogs maybe winning 10 games this year but I just don’t see you overthrowing Florida in the east in 2010. 2011 possibly but not this year.

DawginLex

April 12th, 2010
1:02 pm

I think the Dawgs will struggle early and get a lot better by the end of the season. The QB situation is troublesome but the defense could help that situation if they hold up their end of the deal. Get into a shootout in columbia and we are 1-1. Play it close to the vest by running the ball and punting for field position and keep it in the teens, and UGA can win.

If the running game works and the defense plays well, the QB can avoid mistakes and this team can win 9 games that way. If the QB has to make throws in tight games against top flight competition, we are in trouble.

florida should be the favorite until someone beats them. If we can beat SC, we can be 8-0 going to J’ville. Florida should still be favored.

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
1:04 pm

dawggirl,

That seems like a cheapshot towards Urban Meyer. You don’t personally know the man. You would have no idea if he is a good and loving father or husband. What specifically has the man done to warrant you calling him a sad excuse for a husband or father?

UF future looks bright

April 12th, 2010
1:06 pm

I was at the Gator spring game and came away impressed with all the QBs and WRs we played. The Defense looked great too. Even though it’s too early to say, but I feel the future looks bright. Keep in mind folks that the 3 most highly touted D-line players (Shariff Floyd, Dominique Easley, Ronald Powell) is not even on campus yet. Urban Meyer has the knack of playing frosh early. Those 3 guys alone should help bolster the D-line immediately.

Lord of The Lizards

April 12th, 2010
1:06 pm

dawggirl…I think you need to go consult with his wife and children before you make that kind of a foolish statement. I have seen him at practice with his children, including his daughter Nicki who happens to attend Georgia Tech. Just their interaction alone, even sometimes at practice, shows you what a close family they are. And Shelley, his wife, might be the biggest Gator Fan on the planet. Both she and Urban received a special honorary alumni award at the halftime of spring game and her smile could have lit up that whole stadium.

WHAT!!

April 12th, 2010
1:08 pm

First of all….WHO CARES!!! Really, who cares about spring ball? I went to the spring game in Athens and saw about what I expected…Nothing! And as a dawg fan, I was pretty pleased by our defense although you didn’t see much other than the great man coverage rather than the 10 yard zone crap. The east is wide open and imo no one is a favorite at this point. Right now these kids are chasing tail, drinking beer (flaming it up at UF) and partying, they could care less about football. Just keep the arrests down and carry it into the fall where you will finally get a good look at your team….

Lane Kiffin

April 12th, 2010
1:10 pm

Urban, you had me at hello. I’m sorry for being a pest. Good luck in the SEC.

What??

April 12th, 2010
1:11 pm

What!!,

(flaming it up at UF),

XpatHeel

April 12th, 2010
1:16 pm

Tony, all you had to do was tune into espn Sat. to see the #1 Defense at work, and the kid who’s going to take the keys from Yates. And a basketball school put 30k in the stands for a spring game. Yet no coverage at all for the Heels. That’s fine. We’ll get no respect till Sept. 4. After we throw a shut out on LSU and GT, do you think you might pay a little attention?

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
1:20 pm

That kind of unnecessary, unintelligent, and certainley uninformed cheapshot at Urban Meyer that “dawggirl” took (see 12:51 post) is typical of the self imposed ignorance of Dawg fans.

Bill E. Goat

April 12th, 2010
1:25 pm

UNC is a basketball school? Sure couldn’t tell this past season :)

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
1:27 pm

I don’t know for a fact but I am sure that Mark Richt doesn’t love his wife and probably neglects his children…NOW, do you see how ignorant that sounds????????? So why would you make that kind of uninformed inference towards Urban Meyer… or for that matter, even anybody else that YOU DON”T KNOW!

5IML

April 12th, 2010
1:28 pm

I hate to side with dawggirl but…Urban obviously has serious health problems but has chosen football, the stress that’s exacerbated his condition, over his family. I’m sure his public outbursts can be explained away but the health thing. Sheesh.

DawginLex

April 12th, 2010
1:33 pm

Hey reptilesrule,

don’t lump all of us UGA folks into one group and we won’t assume that you have a mullet and wear jorts……….

:) :) :)

Chill Dogg RTR

April 12th, 2010
1:34 pm

Gerald:

“Not like UGA, which has lost 4 games or more 3 times, including 2 of the last 4, and has lost at least 3 games in every single year but 2002 (when the schedule wasn’t that tough).”

Not exactly! UGA went 10-2 in 2004 (#7 in AP) and 11-2 in 2008 (#2 in AP). Check your “facts” next time!

FORTY ONE POINTS to your seventeen points

April 12th, 2010
1:40 pm

#1 mutt

April 12th, 2010
1:41 pm

But we have Aaron Murray!

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
1:44 pm

5IML,

Dawggirl went way overboard with that one. You don’t call someone a “sad excuse for a husband and father” unless they’ve done something Tigeresque with all the misstresses and all that. His health didn’t really become as serious until the seccg when he was severely dehydrated. I think every coach out there sacrifices something in the way of stress and long work hours so we could kinda say they all neglect their wives/families. You could make the argument Tony Dungy was a “sad excuse for a father” because he was never around and his son committed suicide. I don’t want to go there of course. He’s fine now. And his whole decision to stay at Florida and not get in the mix for what used to be his dream job at ND comes from the fact that he wants his young son and the daughter to have some stability for the next 10 years as they finish growing up. Not sure but I think his son is around 10 and his one daughter is in her teens and so he’s staying put at UF for family reasons. At least that’s what I’ve read anyway. Same with Saban. He’s just staying put and retiring from Bama cause his daughter is now a sophomore at Bama and his wife has had it with the moving. The last move they will make will be to Lake Burton after Saban retires in 5-8 years.

Gatorzone

April 12th, 2010
1:49 pm

Everybody is still undefeated, so anything can happen. But, watching the Gators spring game I think they will be much more explosive on offense this year. They will spread the ball more, and are loaded with size and speed!

The General Feeling

April 12th, 2010
1:53 pm

I watched the UGA spring game and saw the exact same play as I’ve seen the past 5 years. Which means that UGA will, once again, be dog’d with penalties, miscues, and mistakes. So it looks like Florida will have a cake walk in the SEC East.

Reminds us Tide fans…. did Mike Shula learn/coach under Nick Saban for 6 years before becoming a head coach for three? No, I didn’t think so. So your comparison of Derek Dooley to Mike Shula is weak, very weak. Dooley has a grasp of things and knows what needs to be done to win at Tennessee. But, he’ll need a few years.

Florida is always loaded but they will have some issues just like their basketball team has recently. Remember, Urban Meyer made a difficult decision to retire. When he did, he checked out mentally and will not be the same coach going forward. See Billy Donovan if you need an example.

USC, Vandy, and UK…. who cares?

Dawg Fan in Grayson

April 12th, 2010
1:55 pm

UGA will win at least 10 games this year….I really believe the defense is much improved and Grantham will have his crew coming after the QB’s so you better have running game to slow it down. Brantley is like a statue in the pocket so he will be hit multiple times. We will see if he can handle the physical play of the SEC. UGA will have the best running game in the SEC East. Only Bama has a better running game in the SEC.

Bill E. Goat

April 12th, 2010
1:56 pm

5IML,

Are you Urban’s Dr.? Have you seen his medical records? Were you involved in the conversations between Urban his Doctors and his family?

If not you should refrain from making such statements that you haven’t a clue about the situations or what the situation is. Fairly pathetic to make such claims about someone when you have No idea what the persons health condition is or how his family feels about it.

Dawgbreath

April 12th, 2010
2:03 pm

Spurrier’s team is going to be hard to deal with. Garcia will get his act together and we will be very lucky to leave Columbia with a W. We’ve got more issues than a lazy QB. He may not be that lazy anyway. Spurrier has used these tactics forever. I am very worried about the SC game.

Bill E. Goat

April 12th, 2010
2:04 pm

Dawg fan in Grayson you don’t know much of what you’re talking about do ya. While Brantley is no Tebow running the ball he is far from a statue. He is just as mobile if not more than all of UGA’s QB’s.

While UGa could very well have the best running game in the East history and personell say otherwise. Florida returns their entire 2 deep OL except for one player from last year and their top 4 running backs who ran for more yards last season than any other returning Running Back unit in the SEC except for Alabama. With Tebow graduatiing they’r eonly going to get more carries and more yardage than what they did last season. Also since Urban Meyer has been in Gainesville UGA has only had a better running game than UF in one season and thats it. Even with Knowshon UGA didn’t have a better season than the Gators running the ball.

Greensboro News & Record

April 12th, 2010
2:05 pm

A healthy Josh Nesbitt will …….WIN the Heisman Trophy !

scott

April 12th, 2010
2:10 pm

Tony, I think you fail to understand the importance of Tebow ont hat team, in and out of the locker room. If UGA gets good QB play, they could battle for the sec east again.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
2:11 pm

Bill E. Goat…5IML is just someone else who believes what he wants to believe. Like you, I’m pretty sure that he doesn’t have a copy of Meyers EKG or CAT SCAN but he’s gonna make unqualified medical assumptions anyway…DawginLex…and I won’t assume that your a redneck with no teeth driving an old pickup with a gun rack…And for whom it may concern…It is documented that Shelley Meyer actually wanted her husband NOT to resign and to take a leave or absence instead. And ultimately, that’s what he did and is doing for some of the summer.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
2:12 pm

Sorry, that’s a “you’re” before I get jumped on here.

SOOHSO

April 12th, 2010
2:14 pm

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Otto

April 12th, 2010
2:15 pm

I agree with Tide Rising, Gerald makes some solid points. UF can be as strong as ever and the scary thought is what if the defense improves? Strong was not that great until he was at UF with great talent.

UGA will take full benefit of the scheme in year 2. The defense will make some mistakes next year. The question is how fast does Grantham implement the new defense and how well can judge how much he makes the kid’s handle. OCs scale down the playbook at the time for young QBs. Goond ones know how much to scale it down. UGA should repsond quicker than Bama just due to depth. The same scheme with some better DB coaching and along with finishing a tackle would give UGA a few more wins alone over the past 2 years.

OC is a serious question mark at UGA. OL coach? IMO Searles has done a good job, it is the RBs that have not produced with a mediocre OC calling pays that makes them look bad. UGA was 6th in the country for fewest sacks allowed.

My pleasant suprise for the spring which nobody is talking is how well Jackson carried the ball. I am still not sold on King and UGA will need a 3rd RB. My biggest disappointment was Ealey throwing a punch but I also was not surprised with Murray’s mediocre showing.

Back to Bama and depth, Shula was given 3 years, he needed 2 more. Shula gave Bama a 2 loss regular season when they’re biggest games were at the end of the year and depth was thinnest. LSU and Auburn were those 2 big games he lost at the end of the year and they were locked in at the top of SECW. They were still close games despite Prothro being lost for the season. IMO not a bad job by Shula and he may have set the bar a little to high in ‘05 for ‘06. Dooley has more discipline than Shula and should do better. Shula’s weak point seemed to be discipline.

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
2:19 pm

ReptilesRule,

I’ve got both Urban’s EKG results and his Catscan and the results read like this. If he beats Bama in the regular season next year I recommend that he should probably retire. If he beats Bama in the regular season and in a possible SECCG rematch then I would recommend that he definitely retire due to health reasons.

EW

April 12th, 2010
2:20 pm

We will see how much impact Tebow had on and off the field now. I really believe that kid has something you can’t always put a number or a grade on…Some call it intangibles…I really think his absence will have a measured effect on the Gators this season. Not to say Brantley isn’t a REALLY good replacement…

5IML

April 12th, 2010
2:22 pm

Bill,

I am no one’s doctor but I can read and use reasoning. So, you think Urban decided to retire as the head coach of one of the greatest programs in modern college football history because of a hang nail or because he got an eyelash in his eye?

Use your brain! If you have the drive and abilities to become one of today’s top coaches, it would take something very serious to make you walk away. Something like…uh…let me see here.. uh…waking up in the middle of the night with chest pains, no feeling in your arm, and lightheadedness then falling on the way to the bathroom (probably because of no feeling in at least one of your legs). Those symptoms are not caused by dehydration. Again, I’m not doctor but that sounds like a mild heart attack to me. But next week you’re okay.

Again, use your brain.

FSU MAN

April 12th, 2010
2:24 pm

FSU fan here and must say I have been very impressed with the knowledge and respect that most of you have shown on this board. Let me first say that I think UF will be the favorite to beat FSU even in Tally this year.. They where just too good for us last year, and I don’t think we have closed that gap “Yet”. With that being said, Ponder is certainly going to turn some heads in the Heisman race. Look out for the game against Oklahoma September 11th.. in Norman. If Ponder and the Noles can come away with a “W”, the Nation will finally see in Ponder what we have seen in him as Nole fans. Jimbo has got this team playing as a team again, and Stoops (our new DC) will have the defense running more of a zone D (better suited for our current personnel).

In the SEC, I see a UF vs Bama rematch in the SECCG, but don’t count out LSU, UGA, or Auburn.. Ark has an outside shot, but they will lose at least 2-3 SEC games, Bama and UF won’t..

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
2:25 pm

Otto,

Georgia does have a lot more talent and defensive depth then what we had in 2007. The only question is how quickly they ramp up defensively playing a whole new 3-4 scheme. If they can get everyone playing cohesively and at full speed at the season’s midpoint than that would be making great strides. But to me it will take at least a year and 2011 will be the first full year of really feeling comfortable in what they’re doing. JMHO of course.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
2:27 pm

Tide Rising…You have plenty of room to crow and you should. But it’s also good to see that you have kept a solid sense of reason and objectivity about you. And I agree, I don’t see Saban going anywhere unless something totally weird happens as he’s gotten to that age where stability is so important, he’s at a place where he can win championships and he has such solid backing and I’m not just refering to $$$. I mean, what else do you want?? And for goodness sakes he sure doesn’t need the money!

Lee Corso

April 12th, 2010
2:29 pm

Tony:

Not so fast my friend! Seems you understated the Gators’ defensive questions. Urban’s secondary this season will remind you of Waffle House toast… BURNT!

jarvis

April 12th, 2010
2:31 pm

So no more wild boys?

Otto

April 12th, 2010
2:34 pm

Tide agreed it will take a year for it to fully implement. IF Grantham can judge how much to feed the payers without confusing them they will be dangerous.

IMO the scheme is an improvement but the 2 biggest improvements on UGA defense are better coverage by DBs and finishing opeen field tackles. UGA defenders blew open field tackles with chest bump and arm tackles far to often. 3rd Qtr against GT in ‘08 being the obvious example. UGA had players in position to make tackles on majority of the big plays but blew it. Grantham and Belin will put an end to that or explode trying.

Reptiles Rule, agree with you at 2:27. Don’t forget Bama is the closest powerhouse program to his lake house and I don’t see him going back to the NFL like Pete Carrol.

gdawginkalamazoo

April 12th, 2010
2:37 pm

Hell, I can’t wait to actually play the games. Then we can figure out how good everybody is.

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
2:37 pm

Anyone heard from Atlanta Gator lately? We all like his opinions and input but now that Tony has restarted the college football blog I haven’t see the Atlanta gator yet this year.

Hilton Head Jacket

April 12th, 2010
2:38 pm

Sorry Hokie fans. But thr Yellow Jackets look like the class of the ACC Coastal again.
ACC Coastal opponents who are expecting — or hoping — for a huge drop off at Georgia Tech may be disappointed. Of course Georgia Tech will be better this season than the past two seasons win the Ramblin Wreck went 20-7. Georgia Tech clearly has the best quarterback nation wide in Josh Nesbitt.
Georgia Tech will be favored in every game it plays including their trip to Athens.

Lane Pimpin

April 12th, 2010
2:40 pm

Dawg girl who does not want to be married to the top ranked CFB coach in America.

Guess what? He definitely does not want to marry you and live in your trailer in So. Gawga.

Otto

April 12th, 2010
2:43 pm

Tide don’t think so.

TONY!!!! pass this on to the AJC
Wish we could register our name to email addresses like AL.com. It would also be nice to have an option to PM or e-mail other posters.

Gatorzone

April 12th, 2010
2:50 pm

Tide Rising, you should contact Cuz about our side group. You have good opinions.

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
2:53 pm

Otto,

People have suggested the registering or at least a tie in between handles and email addresses to cut down on the number and amount of juvenile stuff that goes on like stealing someone’s handle but apparently it keeps falling on deaf ears.

Tide Rising

April 12th, 2010
2:55 pm

Gatorzone,

I just plagiarize other folks opinions and pass it off as my own. I find that works well. Pretty soon I’m going to pass myself off as Tony Barnhart himself.

Debose

April 12th, 2010
2:58 pm

How come everybody spells my name wrong? That’s cool, soon enough the whole conference and the country will know and fear the name Andre Debose.

Urban Meyers Doctor

April 12th, 2010
3:03 pm

You guys should stop commenting on my patient. Because of privacy laws, I can’t tell you his exact physical condition. But between you and me I can tell you……When I first looked at his X-ray, I thought he had no spine. But then I realized he had one, you just couldn’t see it because his mouth was so big! Then I thought he had no man parts, (I wasn’t judging from any test, just the number of times he kissed and hugged Tim Tebow–and then there was all the crying.)

No really everybody leave Urban alone. If you don’t, he may take his ball and go home again.

winterDawg

April 12th, 2010
3:08 pm

I wish the best of luck to a certain degree to Derek Dooley. However, I just don’t see any history of the UT fan base being patient. They basically allowed Fulmer to steal Johnny Majors job while he was recouping from a heart attack. Then, after 17 years, a national title and a whole lot of top 10 finishes they demand the resignation of Fulmer and don’t give him the chance to turn it around. Throw in the fact that they bought into the snake oil salemanship of Kiffin and this is a fan base that does not have patience. Especially from a person with such a high degree of background at UGA. Two 7-4 seasons and they will run him off in the middle of the night.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
3:09 pm

Tide…RE: Atlanta Gator…saw a post from him the other day…or at least by someone using that name and it sure sounded like him. Hope he’s OK, I’ll bet you he’s just busy…also 5IML.. per your 2:22 post you claimed you are using your power of reasoning in reference to Urban Meyers health. Then you go on to say…” I’m not (a) doctor, but that (meaning his symptoms that you had pointed out) sure sounds like a mild heart attack to me. Sooo…you’re not a doctor, so I guess not a cardiologist either, but you are going to diagnose his symptoms as a mild heart attack?? That’s not the power of reasoning, that’s the foolishness of assumtion. And we all know what you do when you assume…

DostaDawg

April 12th, 2010
3:14 pm

Hey Barnhart, Nothing You’ve Ever Predicted Has Actually Came True So I Really Don’t Even Know Why Your Still A College Football Writer……………………….Just Saying.

Falcon34

April 12th, 2010
3:15 pm

Another pre-season, another Florida wins it all prediction. Nice job Tony. How’d that one work out last year?

Agreed that UGA has issues, but to say that UF is heads and shoulders above Georgia is completely ludicrous. Another factoid is that the SEC no longer gets to face one of the worst D-Coordinators in the Nation every year. Grantham is still unknown, but can he be any worse than Soft Willie Martinez?

FalconUGAFan

April 12th, 2010
3:22 pm

Agree…UF is top dog until they get knocked off. Maybe we grow a collective pair and try playing some football rather than worrying about celebrating or what we plan to wear to the game…Sorry old school here.

cindy hendrix

April 12th, 2010
3:30 pm

I watched the spring game & it is different alsoTG & MR are not going to show too much on live t.v. for our opposition to see. They will have to wait just like the rest of to see how the new 3-4 defense is. It will take some time but
I think if we give it some time hopefully when the players learn it we will have more wins but who knows if they catch on well we could suprise some folks TG is obviousy a good coach Saban hied him once & tried to a second time & we all know his record. I am sure he only hires the best. remember dawg fans this old saying good things come to those who wait I know we would all like it sooner but better they learn it right & it make a difference where it counts wins baby!! GATA As Always GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!! Cindy

Dawglover

April 12th, 2010
3:37 pm

We all think just because it’s SC they will suck again. I think it took Visor Boy an extra couple of years but he’s going to be hard to beat with an improved run game. The Garcia thing? What else is new? It’s a smokescreen. The chickens are going to be hard to deal with this year (I’m afraid). Special teams beat them last year. It sure wasn’t our O or D.

athensdawg

April 12th, 2010
3:37 pm

I think Shakespere had the best description of spring football practice…
“full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

ugafan

April 12th, 2010
3:37 pm

man, hilton head jacket is truly delusional. losing your top four players off your team and you think y’all will be favored in athens? tech won’t even win their division this year. but it is fun seeing the tech fans so delusional. yall just keep holding on to the memory of 45-42, b/c that was a fluke, and everyone knows it.

Sanford Drive

April 12th, 2010
3:43 pm

UF has an “easy” road to the SECCG this year with both TN and UGA being down. Of course, LSU has a shot at beating them, but I don’t see that happening. If FSU didn’t have such an awful defense, I might say they have a good chance of beating UF as well.

Brantley will be better than Tebow (passing wise). Tebow was a workhorse. Brantley has a good arm & throws a nice ball. UF has been slim at receiver but I believe they have some talented redshirts on their roster that will get a chance to step up? Obviously they have some key losses on both sides of the ball – Pounceys, Spikes, Hernandez.

Bama obviously has the best running game in the SEC, and probably the country. McElroy doesn’t impress me, but Bama has shown that you don’t need a star QB to win big games – especially with RBs like Ingram and that tough D.

I believe the Gators reclaim the SEC title this year in a grind against Bama.

RomeDawg

April 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

I am of the mindset that Florida is the “class” of the SEC east until that is TAKEN from them! I thought they were the class of the SEC until ‘Bama took it! I hope this is UGA’s year to whoop Urban.

gdawginkalamazoo

April 12th, 2010
3:50 pm

What’s up with the headline Tony. You don’t need to apologize to us. Until we start beating Florida again we have to count on somebody else to do our dirty work. We have been too inconsistent to be solid contenders. It is what it is.

gdawginkalamazoo

April 12th, 2010
3:54 pm

Sanford, McElroy didn’t particulary impress me that much either unitl he managed the SECCG and the NC game. He managed things well all season for the most part but when it really counted in those two games he looked like a seasoned veteran not a first year starter.

D

April 12th, 2010
3:57 pm

“IF uga gets good qb play, they COULD”
If and could are the key words. Uf doesn’t have to use those words for their qb.

sven

April 12th, 2010
3:57 pm

Number of players in the Pro Bowl:

ACC – 23
SEC – 15

The ACC is right up there year after year in overall talent (#1st rounders in the past decade, overall numbers in the NFL). They beat up on each other in conference play and somehow send the wrong team to the BCS every year.

I understand that the nation prefers a conference to have a UF and Alabama as opposed to parody. Im just confused as to why people are so dismissive of a conference that proves in every draft that it is chock full of talent.

GATOR88

April 12th, 2010
3:59 pm

UT: Good for them-Lane was a joke.

PONDER: Great talent-for his sake maybe he will get some blocking and some players stepping up around him. UF/FSU game might once again be a biggee. I will be in Tally again to witness my favorite game.

UF OFFENSE: Throw out spring game #’s. Untested QB’s scare anyone. UF could have rocky ride on offense especially if we don’t have the guy on offense to go to and get 1-3 yards as needed. Brantley has potential but in the SEC-anything goes especially for road games.
UF DEFENSE: I always thought Charlie STrong called a conservative then predictable defensive scheme. (See SEC Champ game where Bama was in his head) We will miss him most on the recruiting and leadership side. Our LB’s are gonna be nasty as will the safeties but we might be soft up front and beatable on the corners. That’s why they play the game.

UF still team to beat-as one Dawgfan pointed out. Should be a fun year with new coaches/players/QB’s and schemes. Look for the UF/Dawg game to be a great game also!!!

Urban: if everyone is hating him, I know we have the right coach!!!!

out

5IML

April 12th, 2010
4:04 pm

Reptiles,

Google the common symptoms of a cardiac event. Now, open a new tab and Google what happened to Urban (not the lie he initially reported about dehydration but what he said later). Now, go back and forth between the tabs. It doesn’t take six years of medical school to see the similarities.

Hey, I know where you’re coming from. For the Gator nation, the days after Urban’s retirement were the worst since the announcement of Zook’s hiring. I’m sure if Saban’s head literally fell off his shoulders, if Mal said he was okay to coach, I’d roll with it, too.

Anybody that can play

April 12th, 2010
4:04 pm

Sven, nice try man. The Pro Bowl Players mean we are great. What a moron? It is about the entire teams you put on the field and the coaches that coach them not the top two players on each team. ACC sucks and everybody in college football knows it but you. I assume the RPI, computer polls, coaches poll, and all the rest are wrong and you are right. DUH!!!

tony

April 12th, 2010
4:05 pm

I see the dawgs going underfeated this year. They only lost 1 decent player on offense(Moore) and they no longer have Willie Martinez running the defense. Aaron Murray, AJ Green, Ealey, Orson Charles and our strong offensive line will be too much to handle.

I believe Grantham will do a much better job than Martinez in preparing our boys this season. I saw a huge difference in the way the defense performed in the G-day game. The man must be a dawn good coordinator to have our boys playing this good in just a few days. I really feel good about this team.this season.

Gatorzone

April 12th, 2010
4:10 pm

88, I agree on Strong being VERY conservative. I kept asking myself during the BAMA game, where are the blitzes? No pressure the whole game. Really, not many blitz schemes the whole year, just base pass rush from front 4. UF played both sides of the ball last year with a huge monkey on their back. The pressure of undefeated and Tebow hoopla was a huge distraction. They will be looser this year, and in turn play better. The offense will be less predictable with Brantley and that will keep opponents playing from behind and in turn help the defense. I will be surprised if they don’t upset BAMA in Tuscaloosa on October 2.

Dawg Huh Whut?

April 12th, 2010
4:16 pm

Tony,
You, like rule dude. Your so right on that the Dawgs will win it all man. These other lame dudes are just dreamin when they say that anybody will be our mighty Dawgs!! Dawgs go undefeated and beat the Gators by, like a jillion!!! Whoa. What happend. Pass the Dawg Bong dude.

Iceman

April 12th, 2010
4:17 pm

No reason at all the Dawgs can’t beat FL.

Carolina will never be a factor in the east.

5IML

April 12th, 2010
4:18 pm

Gatorzone,

Because of the sheer talent on the Gator’s D last year, there was really no need to blitz. Conservative playcalling on D was not the issue in the SECCG. It was predictability. Of course, without offensive talent, noticing tendencies does no good.

Gatorzone

April 12th, 2010
4:21 pm

They were predictable, but they are loaded on offensive talent.

Bruce mac

April 12th, 2010
4:22 pm

Dang, you Gators are so good you should be playing in the NFL. We have no shot at the Mighty Gators as they apparently have third stringers better than anybody else in College Football and there coaches are better now than ever and CUM is a better coach now that he is part time. I say we just cancel that little game in TTown, no reason for Bama to show up either.

The Refs,coaches and god hates Georgia

April 12th, 2010
4:22 pm

5 loss or more for Georgia. mark it down girls.

john "58% completion rate" brantley

April 12th, 2010
4:22 pm

Tony-

Here’s what Brantley did over the 3 scrimmages in the Spring for Florida:
1) 10 sacks
2) 8 fumbles
3) 2 interceptions
4) 5 td’s
5) 58% completion rate

UGA’S QB blew him away.

Surely you’re not saying having 1 good game, makes him the next great thing?

Mettenberger went 64% in the Spring, 5 td’s, 1 interception. Keep that in mind next time.

BrokeBackJacket

April 12th, 2010
4:22 pm

WOW!!!!!!!

By far most civil and realistic college football blog in a LONG time…few of the “crazies”, but not too many….I for one would LOVE to see AJC make posters have to give valid emil to participate here…thus we could have more actual “football” talk!

Old dawg fan here…first game 1959 and ardent fan of all things college football…more particularly southern football…and even more particularly UGA and SEC football!

It goes without saying that until someone takes it away from them…then UF is the class of the SEC east…and that is painful for me to say and i do resent the fact that most UF fans are in denial that the history of college football started circa 1990!
Bear Bryant was quoted in mid 70’s that UF was a sleeping giant…and Spurrier woke their ass up big time…dont have to like it…but will acknowlege it!

I may be wrong as UF is loaded with talent…BUT…i do feel there is chance that the Gators may be beatable this year! I think UGA’s offense will be potent…CTG’s 3-4 will take time to implement…BUT…UGA’s defense will be better this year by attrition alone…Martinez, Jancek, and Fabris should have been gone at least 2 years ago!

USCe will be pesky…and they ALWAYS give my dawgs fits..the game is always early and their lack of depth/injuries have not affected them so much.

I see UGA going 9-3 or 10-2…Arky with Mallett will be tough…MSU will be tough! UGA-Aub always tough…and we always get the bee’s best shot!

All that said…I think it will be a very interesting year in the always tough and definitely BEST college football conference this year!

BTW…Nesbit for heisman…..ludricrous!

Georgia is never a threat

April 12th, 2010
4:23 pm

Enter your comments here

Georgia stills sucks at football

April 12th, 2010
4:27 pm

nothing ever will change at uga.

Not Bad

April 12th, 2010
4:28 pm

Agreed! I am not that sure that UGA will be the SECOND best team in the East.

nucular

April 12th, 2010
4:36 pm

Yeah Tony, let’s see, a QB for Florida who after 3 year sin the program, in the 3 Spring games, throw for 58%, fumbles 8 times, and throws 2 interceptions?

And the defense for Florida gives up 43 touchdowns to a freshman QB and over 51 point sin the Spring game?

If scoring won the SEC, Arkansas would be the National Champ, instead they went 7-5.

Come on, get serious folks.

5IML

April 12th, 2010
4:38 pm

In the immortal words of Allen Iverson, “We’re talking about practice.”

Don’t get too hyped up over Spring scrimmage stats.

take jake

April 12th, 2010
4:39 pm

If Meyer couldn’t win a Championship last year, with 22 starters back, Tebow, and Strong as his defensive coordiantor, he SURE won’t win it in 2010.

Bill E. Goat

April 12th, 2010
4:39 pm

5IML

You’re missing the point. Regardless of what happened for Urban to retire it’s easy enough with your line of thinking to understand that he made a rash decision based on what happened and after consulting with doctors and his family discovered he could do what he loved without risking his permanent health.

Just because someone has a minor heart attack, which I also feel probably happened, doesn’t mean he has to stop doing what he loves forever.

Urban probably was scared he was risking his life and being around for his family and human nature leads one to make a rash decision. Human nature also allows for further discovery and to see what alternative ways there are to deal with such a health issue without causing further risk to one’s health and lifestyle.

Every bit of notion you’ve put forth from your angle can be used just in the way I did above and is every bit a logical explanation for why Urban Meyer retired and changed his mind. I fail to see how that makes him what you previously described him as.

Otto

April 12th, 2010
4:40 pm

Brantley also is not going up against a defense with a complete scheme change.

Mett’s INT was in a Hail Mary situation.

BrokeBackJacket, Agreed I can see UGA anywhere from 7-5 to a perfect season, most likely 9-3/10-2.

If the offense is clicking with a good QB and the RBs are producing, the defense executes on fundamentals the sky is the limit and after S Car the schedule sets up nicely. Mallet can be dangerous up against a new scheme, and Mullen is due a big win but UGA should be favored.

The entire SEC will be interesting. MSU and Auburn with 2nd yr coaches. Can Arkansas improve? Does Darth Visor have a QB and RB? Does Les Miles self implode with Clock management? Tony has plenty of material.

Charlie Bama

April 12th, 2010
4:42 pm

Tony — You are dead on with your comments about the Gators. They will be a handful for all their opponents, including Bama. Especially if the FL offensive line can do it’s job–but, BUT, that’s not a given. Defense will beat Florida, and there’s no chance they can be out-scored in a track meet, except by the more experienced Tide offense. (Remember, Ingram, McElroy, Julio, Richardson & company are all back this year.) It’s a good thing Dooley is rebuilding the Orange Killbillies for the long haul, ‘cuz this season will be ugly, ugly, ugly.

Anonymous

April 12th, 2010
4:45 pm

Who (or should I ask “What”) is dawgirl, anyway?
I have a deuce that says she’s a “sidewalk alumn.”
Any takers?

Bill E. Goat

April 12th, 2010
4:47 pm

Lee Corso

Seems you haven’t a clue about who the Gators return in the secondary.

Janoris Jenkins, Ahmad Black and Will Hill were all part of one of the best secodaries in the country for the past 2 seasons all played a big role in winning the National Title in 2008 and all are back in 2010.

The Florida secondary is in MUCH better shape than UGA’s going into 2010 who only return one starter in the secondary.

richtfan

April 12th, 2010
4:47 pm

i am not convinced uf will be able to maintain. they’re much more predictable with brantley and the losses on defense, and in the coaching booth, will be greater than they can stand.

5IML

April 12th, 2010
4:49 pm

Bill,

Maybe you’re right. I may have incorrectly deduced that his family would prefer him to stop coaching for health reasons. But perhaps they want him to keep doing what he loves even if it kills him. Either way, I hope his health holds up. (If I was a Dawg fan, I’d probably feel differently.)

G8R GRAD

April 12th, 2010
4:51 pm

5IML:

Regarding your 4:04 post, I sincerely hope you’re mistaken, but I can’t dismiss the possibility.

5IML

April 12th, 2010
4:57 pm

Neither the Meyer family nor sports, in general, need another Eric Gregg incident. Hopefully, Meyer will be on some serious medication.

I’m heading home. Y’all have a good evening and remember what Allen Iverson said.

longtimesecfan

April 12th, 2010
5:01 pm

Tony thanks for a very interesting article. especially enjoyed the
comments at least the intelligent ones not the stupid ones. many
good points on all sides of the issues. thanks to Gerald,Reptiles
Rule, Lord of Lizards, TIDE RISING, Tommy P and others on both
sides. I miss Atlanta Gator don’t know what happened to him.
You make the long dry spell w/o f.b. bearable Tony.

Dave In Tampa

April 12th, 2010
5:06 pm

I have to agree with Tony. For now the Gators would have to be the favorite. However, IF UGA can pull out an impressive win in Columbia that could set a tone for the rest of the season. That will be a confidence builder. That SC game will be hard fought. Spurrier has yet to beat UGA on his SC field. He’s seething to do so. SC will be tough this year.
Still I see UGA winning at least 9 this Fall.

Erk

April 12th, 2010
5:22 pm

Running a new defensive scheme and having another new QB in the upcoming season will make it tough for the Dawgs to beat the strong teams. Until we show that we can start beating Florida we just need to drop that discussion entirely, irregardless of the talent UF has supposedly lost. I do think the yardage we give up learning the new 3-4 will be somewhat offset by an improved turnover ratio as it was dismal last year – close to the bottom of div I-a from what I remember. And at least Murray or Mettenberger can’t make much worse mistakes than Cox did. But we’re not near the level of Florida and Bama yet. Let’s win the games we’re supposed to win and get back to that conference championship level, but let’s also be realistic and admit we’re not there yet.

rogeriter

April 12th, 2010
5:30 pm

Well, being Barnfart has spoken, I guess there is no reason for our Dawgs to even play this year.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
5:31 pm

Wow folks…no need to get a medical degree anymore…you can save all that time, dedication and money. All you have to do is Google! So now 5IML is qualified to dispence medical diagnosis’ because he went to the U of G. No, not THAT U of G……. the University of Google! Hilarious!

mike

April 12th, 2010
5:35 pm

Uhh, doesn’t Florida ALSO have a new defense to install, and a new qb with like 31 snaps of experience?

1. Georgia’s QB is better than Florida’s
Uhh, didn’t Mettenberger blow away Brantley over the 3 scrimmages?
58% completion vs. 64%? Same amount of TD’s, less interceptions

2. Georgia defense is better than Florida’s
Florida gave up 51 points in the Spring game, Georgia’s defense only gave up 24 points.

So, since both have the same challenge, and Georgia beat them in both areas, Georgia will RUN AWAY with the SEC AND National Title.

Bill E. Goat

April 12th, 2010
5:36 pm

Wow Mike that must be some pretty strong crack you’re smoking. get help immediately.

jumbeauxtiger

April 12th, 2010
5:36 pm

Tide Rising:

:Anyone heard from Atlanta Gator lately? We all like his opinions and input but now that Tony has restarted the college football blog I haven’t see the Atlanta gator yet this year.:

He posted on here late last week. It caught my eye as I haven’t seen him on here in months.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

ed

April 12th, 2010
5:37 pm

Brantley fumbled 8 times over Spring, thrwew a couiple of picks, and got sacked 26 times. Brantley threw for a 41% completion rate in one scrimmage. It was so bad Meyer had a TE trying out for QB.

Jim's Place

April 12th, 2010
5:39 pm

I thought Florida’s defense looked HORRIBLE in the Spring game. Gave up 3 or 4 td’s to a freshan quarterback, and another to their #2 QB Brantley, scored over 50 points on the Gators defense. Looks like another 9-4 season for Meyer.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
5:40 pm

OMG…I just Googled “operation” and “brain” and suddenly I’m a freakin’ Brain Surgeon!!! I’ll tell you what, to anyone out there….I’ll do your brain surgery and charge you 25% of what your Doctor will (since I don’t have all that Med school to pay for)….ANY TAKERS??????

ed

April 12th, 2010
5:40 pm

Mettnberger had a 5 to 1 td to int ratio, Brantley’s was 2.5.

mike

April 12th, 2010
5:43 pm

The freshman QB Burton scored more than Brantley for Florida. That Florida defense giving up 51 points in the Spring game need s serious help. Worse than Alabama giving up 491 yards and 6 touchdowns in their Spring game. Both defenses are MUCH worse than last year.

pi$$onatechie

April 12th, 2010
5:47 pm

I have a question for all Florida fans, if what you say is true that Florida will have no trouble beating Georgia this year why Urban Meyer elected to have his week off prior to the Georgia game? not LSU not Bama but Georgia, I guess he knows something that you all dont know.
I’ll say watch out gaytors

mike

April 12th, 2010
5:53 pm

last time i checked, the Georgia QB’s threw for 385 yards and 3 touchdowns in the Spring game, that ain’t too bad folks.

Lord of The Lizards

April 12th, 2010
6:00 pm

I think UF had an open date almost every year that Spurrier was there. Worked pretty well then I think. I personally am more concerned about South Carolina this year and I’m glad it’s at home. As far as the spring game and Florida’s defense…when you sit out your entire starting secondary and play walk ons through much of the second half, well there you go. Spring games are more for entertaining the fans with a littleoffense while restricting the defense, building some depth and rewarding little used players in my opinion. Plus Brantley had a great game in LAST years spring game as well…and that defense as I recall, was pretty good outside of 1 game…

Lord of The Lizards

April 12th, 2010
6:12 pm

Frankly, come to think about it, I’m more concerned about USF this year than Georgia. At least they got a QB.

Is Meyer Feeling OK?

April 12th, 2010
6:17 pm

Not so sure looking at his face when he went off on this reporter. Glad Tony think Meyer has it all together, I’ll let you decide, take a look at this RECENT meltdown by Urban Meyer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgqQshESm8s&feature=related

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
6:20 pm

mike says, “the Georgia QB’s threw for 385 yards and 3 touchdowns in the Spring game”…… Oh no…looks like that new UGA DC ain’t workin’ out too well if those three clowns can put up those numbers…sounds like UGA has some serious problems on defense…..can you imagine what Brantley’s gonna do to ‘em?!

ed

April 12th, 2010
6:22 pm

1) Florida just can’t find running backs that don’t fumble. Meyer only called 1 play to the running backs in the 2nd half of the SEC Championship game because they arn’t productive and they fumble too much. They have to replace their #1 rusher, their QB, believe it or not
2) Lost all WR’s, don’t have a go-to WR.
3) Havn’t found a Percy Harvin to play that role since Percy left = No Championships
4) Can’t figure out a way for the spread offense to beat the 3-4 (see Bama game for great video footage)
5) QB’s don’t look good, at all after 3 Spring Games, Meyer said we have no offense. I agree.

mike

April 12th, 2010
6:22 pm

Grantham only gave up 24 points, Florida and Bama both gave up over 50 points in their last Spring game.

Dennis G. Berdanis

April 12th, 2010
6:23 pm

It’s not UF’s offense that is a concern. It’s all they lost on defence. That shut down defence is gone.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
6:24 pm

385 yards/3 TDs/3 no talent QBs=Georgia has no defense this year.

ed

April 12th, 2010
6:27 pm

Mettenberger average 25 yards a pass completion in the Spring game, how does compare to Brantley in the Spring game?

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
6:28 pm

Givin’ all the tremendous emphasis on Spring ball statistics by all these UGA fans and patrick, you should fire the new DC immediately and promote Bobo to head coach. Hey, I’m just using bulldawg logic here….

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
6:30 pm

My God, Berger Boy averaged 25 yards per completion in the Spring Game??!! Fire that DC NOW!!

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
6:32 pm

And bring me ANOTHER beer while you’re at it!!! Thats OK, don’t bother, my underage drinking son is going to go get me one.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
6:37 pm

mike…which is it??… the 385yrd and 3 TDs or the 24 points??…your talking out both sides of your mouth, son.

ReptilesRule

April 12th, 2010
6:42 pm

Oh, that’s right…The Spring Game…it was Georgia vs Georgia!! So none of that really matters, now does it. When you can beat UF in October and in an actual real game, not based on you vs you in the spring and some obscure irrelevant stats…and on an actual SCOREBOARD…come back and talk to me…

Delusional Dawg

April 12th, 2010
7:06 pm

It’s now wonder that Mark Richt has such a golden glow. He has had his hide tanned so many times by Florida he doesn’t even need a spray-on anymore.

FalconUGAFan

April 12th, 2010
7:08 pm

ReptilesRule…calm down man….

mike

April 12th, 2010
7:12 pm

Going to be a blowout on Oct. 30, 2010, Georgia wins by 20+. Here’s why:

1) Georgia’s defense was better than Florida
Grantham only gave up 24 points, Gators gave up 51 in their Spring game
2) UGA QB’s are better
Mettenberger outperformed Brantley, Murray and Gray beat out Burton
3) UGA RB is better
4) UGA WR is better
5) UGA Offensive line is better
6) UGA Punter is better
7) UGA Kicker is better

Mark Richt

April 12th, 2010
7:13 pm

Praise the Lord and pass the goggles!

Mark Richt

April 12th, 2010
7:16 pm

We’re Spring Mythical National Champions! Can’t wait to order the rings!

dagnabit

April 12th, 2010
7:17 pm

I’ve got to disagree with you Tony. Florida will be a monster this year. Look out world!

TampaGator

April 12th, 2010
7:19 pm

No questions are truly answered in the spring. Issues that remain for Georgia. Can any of their QBs play in the SEC with no experience. No answer yet. Will the defense be better? No answer yet. Do the Dawgs have a lot of talent on offense other than QB. Answer: Yes!!! Gators: Is John Brantley a top SEC QB…answer: yes!!! Is he a leader: still to be determined. Is there a CB to replace Joe Haden. Answer: Yes…pick one: Jeremy Brown, Josh Shaw, Jaylen Watkins, Mo Jenkins. They are all very good and very talented. Brown is a potential all-SEC CB real soon. Shaw will be in a couple of years. Ditto with Jaylen Watkins. Next question: Who replaces Dunlap and Cunningham? Answer: None yet, but talent is there. Who replaces Spikes? Answer: Pick one: J. Jenkins, Joe Bostic, Brandon Beal. They are all very good. Jenkins is a remarkable talent who can easily play any of the 3 LB positions. Will the Gator offense be better this year? Yes!!! Much better and much more explosive with Brantley and the many talented WRs on this team. I think it is clear that clearly Florida is by far the team to beat in the East…and nothing is based on the spring game….but on spring practice and what the players and coaches are saying about each other. Florida might be the surprise team, not in the SEC, but in the entire nation this year.

Only Stat That Matters...

April 12th, 2010
7:19 pm

UGA vs Fla 2-7 in the Mark Richt era.

"Tan Man"

April 12th, 2010
7:20 pm

Gee, then why do they call it the “golden” era??

TampaGator

April 12th, 2010
7:25 pm

dagnabit….the monster this year is going to be Matt Elam at strong safety for the Gators. He may be the most impressive freshman safety I have ever seen. Very strong, very fast, very smart. And he plays like a senior already. He will start in the nickle formation for the Gators, which they play about 3/4 of the time. Watch out SEC for this guy. I can see why the Vols, Dawgs, and those Noles wanted him so badly. He is big time!!!

You're Not It

April 12th, 2010
7:26 pm

Just looked at SW Missouri States scrimmage and spring game stats and they are much better than Georgia’s. Sorry UGA but you are NOT the MSNC after all…DIVERT THE TROPHY! DIVERT THE TROPHY!

UT Aerial Ass'salt

April 12th, 2010
7:34 pm

Berger made melted cheese out of that makeshift UGA secondary in that now epic spring game. Maybe Nick “pick-nic” Stevens might wanna come back just for the Georgia game. After all, Jon “bounce-pass” Crompton didn’t do too bad against them last year.

Let's get Mikey, he won't eat it...

April 12th, 2010
7:51 pm

Hey Mike the Spring Game Stat collector. Do you understand what a spring game is?? It’s an opportunity for the fans to come out and see their team in full uniform. It’s a production, a show a display, an opportunity for the fans to come to the stadium and talk football. At many SEC schools, they don’t even keep score like they do at “ACTUAL FOOTBALL” games.

The coaches from either side often tell each other what they’re going to run so they can highlight a particular aspect of the game or give a QB some confidence.

If you are collecting spring football game stats from your favorite team and comparing them to another team…..well…..you are an idiot. You might as well compare stats from the spring football game to the summer basketball league stats. Think about this for a moment……hear it comes…..thats it….focus. Now put down your bong and get a job.

Debose

April 12th, 2010
8:13 pm

2009 Orange and Blue Game :

Orange 31 Blue 21 = 52 points………….oh no!

Tennessee – 13 points
Kentucky – 7 points
LSU – 3 points
Georgia – 17 points
South Carolina – 14 points
FSU – 10 points

174 points allowed all year, 12.4 average per game, 18 TDs allowed

That Spring Game really showed what the D would be like all year

Red & Black Tanning Goggles

April 12th, 2010
8:19 pm

Please “Mikey Won’t Eat It” Please! Please!!…try not to bring logic to this conversation. It does not compute here. Only Spring Football stats do. Now…Praise the Lord and pass the goggles!

Red & Black Tanning Goggles

April 12th, 2010
8:26 pm

Dubose…I mean Debose…please…again…no logic… please. And those stats…THOSE don’t look like Spring Football stats to me!! Those look like actual team scores in real games. Those are NOT allowed and do not support our theory. Please try to control yourself in the future! …………..Nanu nanu.

Bama Ramma

April 12th, 2010
8:44 pm

It will be bama and florida again in the SEC title game–no other SEC teams are even close. Bama beats florida by 13 on the way to another BCS title (#14!!!)–take it to the bank!

jumbeauxtiger

April 12th, 2010
8:53 pm

I don’t see how anyone can believe right now that any SEC East club has closed the gap with the Gators. Florida has some key players to replace but they are still the best team in the division.

I think the West is by far stronger. Although Bama is the favorite, Ark, LSU and Auburn all have the potential to be very good. I just don’t see that kind of competition in the East.

I don’t understand how any reasonable Dawg fan can expect a quick fix with their problems. You will have a QB with no college game experience, assuming Murray or Mett starts, and that is a huge issue. Don’t kid yourself as LSU has found that out over the last 2 years. We all know about the D and that will take some time to improve.

Personally I don’t think the Dawgs will be a better team than last year. I think the record will be better but that is because the East is down.

kerryb

April 12th, 2010
8:55 pm

Tony, UF has to show they have a defense after most of them left for the NFL and they’ve gone through two DC in the off season. I don’t even know who the new guy is after the last one quit after a month. You can have a good offense but defense wins championships. Your defense does’nt look good when an average QB like Brantley carves them up.

fanfromathens

April 12th, 2010
8:57 pm

Tony,

I think that what UF lost this off-season is comparable to what UNC lost after winning the NCAA basketball championship last year….and look what happened to them. Fact of the matter is, no matter how many blue chips you’ve got on the bench, you don’t lose guys like Hansbrough or Lawson (or Tebow) and just expect things to carry on as before.

No matter how athletic or highly recruited the rest of the team is, they’ve spent the last 3+ years letting Tebow do most of the heavy lifting. They’ll be in for a surprise when they realize they aren’t as good as they thought they were now that defenses are no longer solely focused on Tebow.

Just like UNC, I’m betting they have a bad lose or two early and eventually fall apart b/c of it.

kerryb

April 12th, 2010
9:00 pm

jumbeauxtiger, offense is not going to be UGA’s problem. How the defensive players pick up a new defense is going to be the test. The offense is returning 10 starters, a deep offensive line, probably one of the best set of receivers, and one of the best set of RB’s in the SEC. UGA will rely on the running game to start the season and won’t need the QB, whoever he is, to win the game.

Debose

April 12th, 2010
9:09 pm

UGA defense gets 2009 G Day Game ball!!!!

2009 UGA defense = 25.9 points allowed per game, 337 points allowed, 41 TDs allowed

????????

neuce

April 12th, 2010
9:23 pm

“Dooley at Tenn. = Shula at ‘Bama!”

Keep in mind Dooley is following that moron Kiffin, Anyone else is better.
Dooley has as good of credentials as Jimbo Fisher at F$U and they seem to think he was a good hire. (doubt it)

Bama fan

April 12th, 2010
9:47 pm

Mike,

The spring contests really don’t tell you much about how a D will do vs someone else’s D. As a neutral fan I do have to disagree with you about some of what you’re thinking about Florida. For starters Chris Rainey is one of the fastest players in the country, he will be taking over the Percy Harvin role. Also, they have some receivers Debose and one other guy that both missed last season that are supposed to be lights out from what non Florida observors are saying.

As far as their defense goes the talent they have stepping in is sick. How you can say that your defense is better than florida’s is beyond me. You base that on a spring game? Florida had a defense that was 1st or 2nd throughout most of the year last year and the year before and I believe they finished top 3 in total defense each of the last 2 years. They lose some good players but like I said. The talent filling in is sick.

Bottom line: Florida aint going nowhere. They’re going to be right there at or near the top of the sec for the foreseeable future and are the odds on favorite to rule the east yet again.

Bama fan

April 12th, 2010
9:57 pm

kerryb,

Offensively UGA should be good with a strong O-line returning. Your running backs are okay but not great. No Herschel or Garrison Hearst or Robert Edwards that I can see. So if opposing defenses put 8 or 9 in the box and shut down the run then keep in mind you’re going to be having to rely on a first time starting freshman qb to save the day with some key plays. That could be a lot to ask of a freshman qb making his 2nd start in a hostile setting such as a night game in Columbia.

mike

April 12th, 2010
10:24 pm

Florida doesn’t have Charlie Strong anymore. Remember that folks.
You will all remember that come October, trust me on this.

Georgia didn’t have Todd Grantham last year. Now they do. He’s better than the Florida D Coach and Kirby Smart COMBINED. You will see.

ed

April 12th, 2010
10:35 pm

meyer the class of the SEC East?

let’s watch this video to the guy Meyer in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgqQshESm8s&feature=related

Tech Master

April 12th, 2010
10:48 pm

Georgia’s losing 4 games, including tech. Look for another minor bowl dawgs, but maybe better than the terrible shreveport bowl! Tech–wins the ACC easily, again!! That $750,000 on an overrated D coordinator will be a big waste of taxpayer cash.

Observor

April 12th, 2010
11:15 pm

Mike,

If Grantham is such a great D coach and he is better than Kirby Smart and the Florida D coordinator “COMBINED” then why was Grantham Richt’s 4th or 5th coaching coach after Kirby(choice no. 1) said no, then Muschamp said no, and then 1 or 2 other guys said no before Richt settled on Grantham.

The reason he was Richt’s 5th choice is because he is only a position coach. His one shot as a D coordinator in the NFL his defense at Cleveland was 30th for 2 years in a row out of 32 teams. No wonder he got fired, demoted to a position coach, and was then richt’s 5th choice. Gee, you got a real winner there pardner. Better than Smart and the Florida coordinator “combined”. Just another delusional dawg fan.

Reptillicide

April 12th, 2010
11:21 pm

Good god, Barnhart. I would have thought you would have waited until at least August to resume your gator butt-kissing, but I guess not.

What does it say about sports journalism when you’re naming the “class” of the SEC East based off of scripted Spring scrimmage games and comments from UF players and coaches? Humor me for a second, Tony, and read this post seriously.

The problem I see with your “analysis,” is that you are judging the Gators based off a gator measuring stick. Brantley was 15/19 for 200 yards… against the Gator defense (which we have no idea how good they will be, given the departure of those big time playmakers and DC Charlie Strong). I don’t place much stock in anybody’s numbers in the Spring game, and I don’t think an esteemed journalist such as yourself should, either. Furthermore, you nonchalantly mention that they have two QBs to play the “Tebow” position, as if to completely ignore the fact that NEITHER ONE OF THEM ARE TIM TEBOW. If we are to believe what you and many other people say, that Tim Tebow is one of, if not THE GREATEST, college football player ever… than how can you sit there and try and tell us that they have two QBs who are going to play the Tebow position? For what it’s worth… how many times did we hear before the 2009 season about how a certain player was going to play the Percy Harvin position?

I’m sorry Tony, but it sounds like you’re just toting the UF line, or regurgitating what the UF PR people want you to repeat. Bottom line: nobody can fill Tim Tebow’s shoes, and there was not a more effective short yardage back in the country last year than Tim Tebow. Even if the Gators had Ryan Mallett back their throwing the ball (which they don’t), there is not a soul on that roster who is going to come in on 3rd and short (with everyone knowing what they are coming in for) and do what Tebow could do.

I’m not asking you to tell me that Georgia is the favorite in the East, Tony. But please come to the table with more than “Florida has a lot of talent and won’t lose that much.” I can go to any numbskull Gator fan off the street and get equally insightful information. I thought the purpose of you being “Mr. College Football” was to offer more than just the opinion of a team’s players and coaches of how good they think they’re going to be.

Chuck Uga

April 12th, 2010
11:32 pm

Tony,
UF may have the best team in the East in 2010, but the best team does not always win the division nor the title. UGA will be in Atlanta in early December. Also, we will see of Derek Dooley can make it at UT. This isn’t 1964 in Athens. He has to annually face Meyer. Spurrier, Richt and Saban. Scary. Now if Richt can just get that offense to perform with consistency and have a defense that performs like it did under VanGorder….the talent is certainly there.

Reptillicide

April 12th, 2010
11:33 pm

You mailed this one in, Tony. You know you did, too.

Chuck Uga

April 12th, 2010
11:38 pm

Forgot to mention FSU will not come close to beating Florida anytime soon. Maybe one upset in ten years, but certainly not 2010.

Oh yeah, always can count on a Bama fan or UT fan to jump on a comment blog about UGA football and tell us what we do and do not have on our roster, who is good and who sucks, who will play and who will sit on the bench, etc. To that point, guessing Washaun Ealey is average. Just hope that average RB gets a shot at Bama in the Dome in December. He’ll average 7 yards a carry!

Red & Black Tanning Goggles

April 12th, 2010
11:46 pm

Again…Bama fan and Observor…PLEASE!…please refrain from using logic and reason on this blog. And please be WARNED…Anything other than obscure, meaningless spring statistics will not be tolerated! Any information involving actual real games between two teams that are actually relevant to a real world comparison will not be accepted. Thank you for your co-operation and participation. Praise the Lord and pass the goggles!

#2 BAMA FAN

April 13th, 2010
4:40 am

As the greatest college football coach Bear Bryant said if Florida could get act together all the other SEC schools would be playing for 2nd place. Old Ball Coach got it rolling and Urban Meyer has taken it to a different plateau!! Florida will all ways be good only if they hire somebody like Ron Zook again
or get caught cheating from the NCAA. Throw the rest of the sec east in a box and pick a winner for 2nd place. RTR

The Old Ball Coach

April 13th, 2010
7:20 am

That’s why they play them on the field. Florida has recruited well and is loaded. Georgia is pretty loaded too. It’ll be interesting to see where this new defensive staff take Georgia. I’ll be throwing my visor again in Columbia.

Grungydog

April 13th, 2010
7:21 am

UF is always going to have players but so will UGA,UT<AU,UA and LSU. Getting the right coach is the reason one of these teams is dominate just look at bama. yeras of struggle until Saban. CMR has done well but went down when Vangorder left so we will see what happens with Grantham and UGA under Richt. I predict we win the secc this year in a surprise.

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JD

April 13th, 2010
8:02 am

I agree that Florida is and should be the favorite with the talent they still have, but there D is young & suspect. If Garcia can get his act together, S. Carolina has the talent and experience to be hard to deal with this season also.

hsf

April 13th, 2010
10:40 am

Tennessee’s defense should be good enough to get the regular W’s from the schedule (Vandy, KY, GA, SC) plus UT Martin, Memphis, and UAB. That’s 7 wins. TN defense may be good enough to beat Ole Miss and/or Oregon, both in Knoxville… and maybe good enough to surprise one of FL, AL, LSU. At worst 7-5. At best 9-3.

Tony Barnhart Fan

April 13th, 2010
2:52 pm

Tony,

You are one of my favorite sources of college football analysis. It is nice to see you pick the Gators since I figure you’re as likely as anyone to get it right in the preseason. I hope the UF offense is more explosive this year. It could happen. It looks like the D could be pretty nasty, but we’re gonna need someone to step up at DE now that we finally may have some SEC caliber tackles coming along.

I’m a lot more worried about Alabama than I am about UGA, but the beauty of college football is you just never know.

I would love to see Derek Dooley have success at UT(as long as he only wins about 1 out of 4 against Florida), but if he never wins a game, it is a great relief to have someone with the Dooley pedigree take over for the Lamester(Coach Kitten). We don’t need clowns like that in the SEC. He is much better suited to the ACC, where football doesn’t really matter, or someplace far away, like the PAC 10.

Gatorz1

April 13th, 2010
3:39 pm

TampaGator,

Wish I had said that. Nice Job!

Gatorz1

April 13th, 2010
3:46 pm

TampaGator,

What do you think about D Tackle? That seems to be improving from what I gather. Hopefully we don’t fall of at end now, just when the tackles start kicking butt.

Meta Tide

April 14th, 2010
7:53 am

Alabama and Florida will be in the SEC title game for years to come. The rest of the SEC will be looking up at the 2 dominant programs every year, and getting table scraps. Bama beats Florida twice this year: October and December, on the way to another title–mark it down.

Buzz Rule

April 14th, 2010
11:16 am

With all the talent in the state of Ga and the southeast, why can’t uga recruit enough talent to beat florida on a regular basis, or at least more than 3 times in 20 years?????? Florida will blow Ga out again in 2010, but richt always gets a pass because he is a “good guy” apparently.

Bob

April 15th, 2010
11:32 am

UF will not be an underdog playing at FSU. By the time that game comes around UF will have possibly one blemish on its record..FSU will have several , playing in the Almost Competetive Conference.

D

April 15th, 2010
6:32 pm

Yes, the Gators are still the favorites in the East, and anyone saying otherwise is delusional. Of course Tebow was special, but we won a national title in 2006 with a starting QB less talented than the one we’ll have this year. Brantley is ready to go. He’s a 4th-year junior with a world of talent, not some freshman or sophomore who we’re not real sure about. He’s going to have a big year. Bet that.

And there’s no comparison between our 2007 defense and our 2010 defense. The ‘07 defense has ZERO experience at all on it, and was comprised of nothing but freshmen and sophomores who had barely played if they had played at all. We’ll have 11 different guys on this year’s defense who have been starters at some point. Lawrence Marsh, Terron Sanders, Omar Hunter, Jaye Howard, Justin Trattou, AJ Jones, Brandon Hicks, Will Hill, Janoris Jenkins and Ahmad Black are ALL still at UF and have all been solid to very good players for us. We’ll have the fastest LB core in the SEC, and proven starters at 3 secondary spots and 3 DL spots.

And per usual, we’ll have the fastest collection of skill guys in the conference, even if you haven’t yet heard of all of them. The defense will still likely take a step back, but the offense will be more explosive. We’ll hit more big plays down the field with Brantley, and we’re already making adjustments for Brantley to do more pro style, under-center stuff.

I think this is the year that people start to understand just how well Urban Meyer has been recruiting the last several years. I’m not saying we’re going to beat Bama or win it all, but we’ll still be the best team in the East by a fair margin, and may very well still be in national contention by the SEC title game.