Breaking down the SEC Bowls



Let’s give Urban Meyer a day off and look at nine of the SEC bowl games. We’re not going to include the BCS championship game between Alabama and Texas today. We’ll have plenty of time to write about that later.

Clemson 21, Kentucky 13 (Music City): We may have seen Kentucky’s Rich Brooks coach his last game. If so, that will be a shame because Brooks has done one of the great coaching jobs in this league, getting the Wildcats to four straight bowls, winning three. With QB Morgan Newton, WR Randall Cobb, and TB Derrick Locke all returning, there is a future if Joker Phillips takes over.


Georgia 44, Texas A&M 20 (Independence): Mark Richt has now won 90 games in nine years as Georgia’s head coach. Now he faces the biggest offseason of his time in Athens as he must hire a new defensive coordinator and develop a starting quarterback for 2010. This was a very good win to start that process.


Tennessee vs. Virginia Tech (Chick-fil-A, Thursday): Both teams will want to run the ball and play defense. Don’t ask Jonathon Crompton to do too much against a defense ranked sixth in the country. Tennessee RB Montario Hardesty (1,306 yards rushing) vs. Virginia Tech RB Ryan Williams (1,538) will be worth watching. I’m giving a slight edge to Virginia Tech, because DC Bud Foster will force Crompton to make plays. Virginia Tech 17, Tennessee 14.


Auburn vs. Northwestern (Outback, Friday): Auburn’s offensive balance will be too much for the Wildcats. The Tigers scored 30 or more points in seven of their 12 games. If freshman running back Onterio McCalebb comes back for this game at full speed, Northwestern won’t be able to stop them. Auburn 31, Northwestern 21.


LSU vs. Penn State (Capital One, Friday): Look at the record and you’ll see that Penn State only beat one team (Northwestern) in the Big Ten with a winning record. LSU has too many athletes and wants to get to 10 wins. LSU 28, Penn State 14.


Florida vs. Cincinnati (Sugar, Friday): This looks like a repeat of the Georgia-Hawaii Sugar Bowl blowout of 2007. Aside from the emotion of Urban Meyer leaving/not leaving, Florida is just too athletic, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Cincinnati does not have its head coach, the interim head coach is leaving after this game, and the defense is not very good. They had to outscore people all season. It is SEC power and speed against a finesse team. While the Meyer flip-flop may be criticized elsewhere, it has served to refocus the Florida team after the loss to Alabama in the SEC championship game. Florida 38, Cincinnati 14.


Ole Miss vs. Oklahoma State (Cotton, Saturday): Based on preseason expectations, Ole Miss underachieved in 2009. The loss to Mississippi State was a huge disappointment and probably kept the Rebels out of a Florida Bowl. Now they are in the Cotton for the second straight season. The key is whether or not an Oklahoma State rushing defense (No. 6 nationally at 87.67 ypg, but that figure is misleading because Cowboys are 93rd in passing defense) can control Dexter McCluster. If McCluster goes over 100, the Rebels win. Ole Miss 24, Oklahoma State 20.


Arkansas vs. East Carolina (Liberty, Saturday):  Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett will use this game to stage his run at the Heisman Trophy in 2010. The key will be the Arkansas defense, which was last in the SEC, allowing 401.8 yards per game. East Carolina, coached by Skip Holtz, beat a high flying quarterback (Houston’s Case Keenum) for the Conference USA championship. Holtz has 22 seniors on this team which represents his first signing class. This will be a very good game. Let’s go against the grain and pick the Pirates. East Carolina 31, Arkansas 30.


 South Carolina vs. UConn (, Saturday):  After three straight losses to Tennessee, Arkansas, and Florida, South Carolina salvaged its season with an impressive win over Clemson (34-17), which played in the ACC championship game. South Carolina is a very young team with 15 freshmen and redshirt freshmen in the two deep. Coach Steve Spurrier believed that this year was going to turn a corner from a talent standpoint. South Carolina needs to win this game to set the table for next season. UConn has been through a tough season with the death of teammate Jasper Howard. The Huskies have a great running game with junior Jordan Todman (1,152 yards) and senior
Andre Dixon (967). South Carolina 24, UConn 20.


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211 comments Add your comment

Denver Dog

December 29th, 2009
10:59 am

Hey m, looks like Caleb just ran by your team for another score.


December 29th, 2009
11:00 am



December 29th, 2009
11:03 am

nice name calling. not that i don’t expect that from your type.

i never said they pick who they play. i said they play crap teams in their bowl games. they are favored in their remaining games except for vt and psu. gee what a surprise.

i never said anything about the ga game. you were favord by 7 against a 6 loss team. anyone thinking you would lose was nuts.

now go back and learn how to communicate without acting like a 3 year old with a bad temper.


December 29th, 2009
11:05 am

Virginia Tech will wipe out UT and their bigmouth Coach Kitten. 31-16 Hokies.

Stan Rome

December 29th, 2009
11:07 am

There’s no hope for Scott. He’s way out of touch with reality.


December 29th, 2009
11:10 am

mike s
those teams play every year with the alab vt exception. duh

yes playing e caro, northwestern, uconn. wow tough games. no surprise you are favored in them. but yeah pound your chest when you beat them!!

Stan Rome

December 29th, 2009
11:10 am


December 29th, 2009
10:48 am

i love how you ga fans look at one game to make a determination of an entire season. nice logic again. hey they beat kentucky. who beat you

So I guess that means Kentucky beats GT’s azz since UGA deballed GT.


December 29th, 2009
11:11 am


so you think uconn, e carolina and northwestern and a&m are tough competition?


December 29th, 2009
11:12 am

Scott you’re too dumb to be arguing in here.


December 29th, 2009
11:15 am

btw, e carolina went 0-2 against the acc. uconn went 0-1. and greg paulis and syracuse beat northwestern. but you go ahead and pound your chest for the sec when they beat these oh so tough teams. lol


December 29th, 2009
11:16 am

Stan the dumb ones never will shut up. Scott will get dumber and dumber and dumber before he figures out everybody in here knows he’s stupid.


December 29th, 2009
11:21 am

yes i know how it works. when you lose a debate, you resort to name calling. shows the maturity and intellectual level of a ga fan.


December 29th, 2009
11:23 am

Scott are you one of those guys that pizzes into the wind and never thinks to turn around?


December 29th, 2009
11:23 am

much tougher than GT Vtech clemson and FSU


December 29th, 2009
11:25 am

scott, what are you even arguing? That the SEC got lucky in their bowl pairings? What kind of argument is that?

How about we look at the regular season to compare the ACC and the SEC. You know, the games that have already happened.

How about your 4 best teams losing to our 2 best and our 7th and 8th best?

And that my friend has ALREADY HAPPENED!



December 29th, 2009
11:26 am

congrats on beating the perennial worst teams in the SEC.

pound your chest on that!


December 29th, 2009
11:27 am

Thank god and Greyhound that UGA did not have to play an ACC team in the bowl or we would have lost. CMR has had trouble with the ACC only 12-1 versus GT, Clemson and VT since he arrived.

There is an old sheriff back in town, CMR.

30-24, Glad it hurts so bad.


Ernie Pyle

December 29th, 2009
11:28 am

Scott…..PUHLEEEZZZE! You haven’t said one thing to bolster your argument. Facts and history just don’t back you up. You’re embarrassing yourself Scott.


December 29th, 2009
11:28 am

scott –

stop bypassing the head to head results and looking for some far fetched common opponent. you only do that when the two conferences don’t play eachother every year.

stop acting like a schoolgirl and go get mommy to help pop your pimples. get that sponge-bath lined up for later while your at it.

Tide Rising

December 29th, 2009
11:32 am


You criticize someone else for faulty logic and then you use even faultier logic. Using the ole this team beat this team which beat your team is dubious logic and best.

And as for playing crap teams in our bowl games Texas A&M was 6-6 but Georgia was only 7-5. The 2 teams were within 1 game of each other, they finished in very similar positions within their respective conferences and thus this was a comparable game. I’m certain that if we looked at the ACC schedule we will find some equally comparable crappy teams playing against the acc in bowl games.

And to call LSU a cupcake? Are you serious? LSU, which is a 9 win team with 2 national titles in 6 years is not exactly a freaking cupcake. That kind of logic is truly perplexing.

And you need to actually take a look at the seedings of the bowl games. After Bama and Fla you will notice that a lower seeded sec opponent is usually pitted against a higher seeded opponent from another conference to kind of keep it fair. That’s how much respect the sec has earned.

For example, Kentucky is probably the 9th or 10th best team of the 10 sec bowl games so instead of being paired against a comparable seed from another conference they are paired against Clemson which is the no. 2 seed from the acc. UT is the 5th or 6th best sec team and is paired against a VT team that is the 2 time acc champion even if they didn’t win it this year and VT is easily the 3rd best team in the acc.

Its pretty obvious that the bowl committees that select these games select them with the idea in mind that an 8 or 9 seed UK from the sec is comparable to a 2 seed from the acc Clemson and that a 5 or 6 seed from the sec UT is comparable to a 3 seed from the acc VT.


December 29th, 2009
11:33 am

Georgia beats a 6-6 school and starts beating its chest about SEC dominance. What a joke. We will show you SEC dominance when we put a beat down on Texas. You all should be embarassed about having to play in Shreveport to begin with. Georgia, with its one national championship, is an overrated program, with unrealistic expectations. Get ready to take a back seat to Tenn and SC.


December 29th, 2009
11:33 am

nice to see you fit with the uga mold. no dialogue without name calling. nice

why don’t you look at the subect of this blog. it’s a discussion of the SEC BOWLS. hence, my point that you should win most of these games. you are playing 5-6 loss crappy teams who some already lost to these inferior acc opponents.

i guess in your eyes miami isn’t a 4th best, but fsu is? i didn’t see miami playing the sec this year. good for you as you would have lost to them in a bowl if you did.

well, obviously there is no one here capable of a intellectual discussion without name calling and smart ass remarks with no logic whatsoever. i guess i should expect that with most uga fans.


December 29th, 2009
11:33 am

Geez Scott – you are a one man ACC defender buddy. Can’t speak for anyone else, but posters like you are out in force during Christmas break. How did you do the first semester? You expect to be in 9th grade next Fall dude?

You go right ahead with your SEC is overrated malarkey, just keep pumping the ACC. You may be the only person in American who believes the SEC is less than the nation’s best football conference. Certainly CBS, ESPN, the NFL, virtually every conference in America’s members, the sportswriters and commentators agree the SEC is THE PREMIER football conference in America. Why the Big 10 is discussing expansion and a championship game and readily admit they have to do something to try and catch the SEC. Let’s try this one, I know you will like it. Use your logic applicable to the SEC vs the ACC in basketball. Is the SEC a better basketball conference than the ACC? If we plug in your arguments about football for basketball, one could make an argument that the SEC may be better. I don’t accept that, however you may. Let’s not forget, Georgia destroyed GT, the ACC champs; S Car demolished Clemson on the same day. Georgia beat S Car. Using logical deduction, Georgia is the ACC champ, yet we are no better than 6th or worse in the SEC. Hmmmmmm. Yes, playing Iowa from a very weak Big 10 as opposed to TCU does benefit GT greatly. Iowa is no better than Miss St. TCU’s defense would shut down “Fish Fry” Paul Johnson’s offense and the GT Def hasn’t stopped anyone yet.

Scott, what classes you have next semester buddy? I don’t know what classes 8 graders take, help me out.


December 29th, 2009
11:34 am

UGA starts 0-2 next year including a first class beat down in Columbia. No one’s scared of UGA any more. New QB. New DL. Rennie may be gone. Going to take UGA a couple of years to get back. Meanwhile, Spurrier finally has players.


December 29th, 2009
11:34 am

The Independence Bowl was a joke, ESPN 2 – 5:00 P.M. – Two second tier programs battling it out.


December 29th, 2009
11:35 am

yes i do believe you will beat texas rather easily. i think it will be a boring game with bama up 17-3 at the half and finish them off 31-17

Neutral observor

December 29th, 2009
11:36 am


It is clear you simply do not know what you are talking about. You should just quit blogging before you really embarrass yourself.

Coach Pa Jamas

December 29th, 2009
11:38 am

Maybe our fans should focus on OUR blog rather than dabling in the UGA blogs. Guess this is why UGA takes top & center on local media –NOBODY can stay away……….


December 29th, 2009
11:41 am

so because were playing “crappier” teams in bowl games the ACC is a better conference?

you’re a joke.

Tide rising and capt. over here said what needed to be said. As soon as you realize what everyone else in the nation does regarding the SEC’s dominance, the better.

Like tide said, it’s not our fault the better seeds from other conferences are seen as “worse” in your eyes.

So sorry the 5th or 6th best team in the SEC has to play VT (the #3 team) in the Chic bowl.

It’s all been said, go home rookie


December 29th, 2009
11:41 am

captain, i think you’ve been hitting the captain a little early today, huh?

i never said the sec was “weak”. i said the acc is not what some on here claim it to be. and i said the sec play weak bowl teams so any chest pounding when you beat 7 loss a&m, uconn, e carolina, northwestern, is a bit exaggerated, wouldn’t you say? if you beat vt, psu and texas, then that would show the conference as the best. but if you lost 2-3 of those games, then turn around and talk how you beat the aforementioned teams, well let’s just say that would be a joke.

again, why do you think tcu would stop the gt offense? since you like to do head to head comps, clemson lost to tcu by 4. we beat them by 3 and 5. hmm. seems like a wash. seems like it would be a great game if it had happened. but the money in the bcs knew tcu gt in miami wouldn’t do as well as iowa and tcu has a larger fan base near tempe.


December 29th, 2009
11:45 am

GDG, what?

You forgot to mention that there is addition by subtraction with Joe Cox and WM being gone.

And yeah the dawgs are going to lose to the Rajun Cajuns the first game of the season. You’re out of your mind.

By the way, next year is the easiest schedule UGA will have had in 6 years. No more bama, no more LSU.

UGA back on top of the east next year.


December 29th, 2009
11:46 am

You UGA critics can say what you want. But 90 wins in nine years is quite a feat, by any standard. So suck on that Tech. UGA-30. ACC Champs-24.


December 29th, 2009
11:50 am

The only reason TCU isn’t in the Orange bowl is because the BCS powers that be didn’t want two teams from lower level conferences to potentially be undefeated at the end of the year. Thus creating more havoc that the Texas/Bama winner is not as worthy.

End of story.

Coach C

December 29th, 2009
11:53 am

TCU, Scott? Because of their top 5 run stuffing defense and their top 5 offense against the GT defense. GT would be overmatched on both sides of the ball. It’s that simple. TCU would be a nightmare game for GT. Hell, Iowa might be a nightmare for GT.


December 29th, 2009
11:53 am

we’re you dropped on your head when you were a child?

where did i say the acc was a better conference? i never said that. some of you on here are completely illiterate.

what i have been saying is the sec is playing inferior comp in many of their bowl games. i gave those teams. a&m, uconn, nw, e caro.

the acc has played, ky, who beat uga, usc–speaks for itself–and pitt.
they’ve won the games they were suppose to. clem over ky. they lost the ones they were suppose to. bc to usc and unc to pitt.

if the sec goes 7-3 in bowl games, it will be a good bowl season. if they go 6-4, with 4 games being cakewalks, it won’t be that good.

the acc plays tougher bowl opponents. wisc, wv, iowa, tenn, pitt, usc, ky.

much tougher than am, uconn, e caro, clem, vt, nw, ok st, etc.

again, the sec is the best conf. duh. i never said it wasn’t. what i said and have been saying, is half the sec’s bowl teams are weak teams. even ok st is weak without bryant.

look at who’s favored. you were favored in every game but 3.
the acc–usc was fav by 8 over bc. pitt was fav over unc. they were suppose to lose. you were suppose to win and you should win at least 7 of your bowl games. if the acc goes, 4-3, then that would be successful as they were favored in 4. the sec favored in 7 of 10. i hope you can comprehend this. i know it’s long and perhaps you should take some time to read it and think thorougly before responding.


December 29th, 2009
11:59 am

I think all bowls are wayyyyy overrated. Most teams have 3-4 weeks to prepare for their bowl opponent, coaches change, players get suspended. Alot of the time, teams go into their bowl games with different players and/or coaches than they had during the regular season. During the regular season, you have a week, maybe two to prepare for a team. You normally dont have 3-4 players flunking out of school and not playing in a game or coaches changing jobs in mid season like you do in bowl season. Every conference has its share of cupcakes, but even the cupcakes in the big conferences get good players due to the exposure they will get by playing big time schools (Brees, Cutler, E. Manning, Rivers all played for traditional ‘cupcakes’ of thier conferences)


December 29th, 2009
12:00 pm

sweet argument scott.

this is something you bring up after the games have been played, not before.

so your saying wisc is better than nw?

and you’re already conceeding that tenn and ky are better than VT and clemson?

and i think you may have forgot about the #6th at best SEC team in Auburn who handled WV earlier in the season.

Ok, at least you admit your SEC opponents are “tougher” than our ACC opponents. You may want to look at the conference seeds in those games, in which case it would seem as a much harder game for the SEC.

O, well at least you understand how awfully weak your almost competitive conference is.

Alabama Jack

December 29th, 2009
12:01 pm

Now we can get back to relevant football.


December 29th, 2009
12:03 pm

since you probably don’t know and your gonna say o well Wisc is definitely better than Northwestern!!

NW beat wisconsin, so there saved the google search for ya.

go home

South FL Chapter of the Bulldog Nation

December 29th, 2009
12:09 pm

Great Win Dawgs! I was definitely worried with the play but pleased with the score at halftime. When A&M came out with their opening drive and tied it up I didn’t feel any better, but our boys kept playing their butts off and in the end it was a whoopin and a great showcase for UGA! I’m very proud of the way the staff kept it together and the way the players stayed focused on the task at hand. It Great To Be A Georgia Bulldog! Now, lets get our staff together and close out this top notch 2010 incoming class!

I’m always reading all this bs from classless people who rant about crap that has nothing to do with any team that was mentioned in this article….to be honest, who cares what you have to say! Sore looses, poor sports, cheaters, cheap shot artest….I’m sure that those adjectives describe all of your classless people sporting careers…oh wait, I forgot one or two…bench warmers, team manager, or didn’t make the cut. There is a difference between the majority of fans who have class and cheer for their respective teams and even others within their own conference this time of year, and others who just are clueless…and that is knowledge. That’s knowledge of the sport itself and of how of act as an individual…Regardless, try this for a 2010 New Year resolution….GET SOME CLASS! No one really cares to read about your nonesence! I know that’s probably a little much to ask for some of you blogers, but it’s definitely worth a try! Good luck and we’re all counting on you!

Now, back to business…..SEC, go handle your biz!

2010’s going to be the year of the Dawg! How Bout Them Dawgs!!!! Happy New Year!


December 29th, 2009
12:10 pm

The sec is overrated. There out of conference schedules are all nobody’s and then they think they are good because they beat up on each other. Texas will kill Alabama, Vt will beat TN, Cinncy will beat Florida, and the other sec teams might have a chance because they are playing there usual out of conference nobody’s.


December 29th, 2009
12:13 pm

The UGA defense seemed to play better with no DC than they did under Martinez. I only saw 2 times where the tackler attempted a shoulder tackle. And only once where a LB was stuck in “no man’s land”.


December 29th, 2009
12:16 pm

i’m a packers fan, so i love to see detroit and minnesota play well.

oh wait, that’s stupid.

but i’m a clemson fan. remember the 90s, when our conference finished in the top 5 all those years? gosh, those were great years.

seriously, what is it with “sec fans?” i think they are either:

1. paid internet posters working for espn, or;
2. involved with some kind of confederate heritage/football thing.
3. south carolina fans

i just can’t figure it out . . .


December 29th, 2009
12:18 pm

December 29th, 2009
6:14 am

Interesting note on Georgia-Georgia Tech rivalry. In Georgia’s season, every team they played, except two, went to a bowl. Tech played six teams that didn’t make a bowl. Might show that some results depend on strength of your schedule. But good luck Tech against Iowa. This is one Georgia fan that will be pulling for you.

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December 29th, 2009
12:29 pm

Scott, IMO you are correct for this year but over time it is about the same for all. ACC is a good conference but not the depth of SEC and no Alabama/Florida type teams since FSU and Miami went away. I think you are also correct about the swings. The ACC (which is FSU and Miami) will be back. Unfortunately that means GT will head south. I look for CPJ to be gone after next year. He, like Coach Fox at UGA, is swimming up stream and will go to Big Time football school at first opportunity. Can you really blame him?


December 29th, 2009
12:32 pm


Still no word on that pseudo Mr. College Football.


December 29th, 2009
12:32 pm

secisoverated, I wish I was your bookie. You are clueless, but don’t let that stop you. Bet on big boy.


December 29th, 2009
12:39 pm

VT-UT should be a fun game to watch. Arkansas loses to EC? I don’t think that’s gonna happen.


December 29th, 2009
12:41 pm

Hey “Bamaboss”…why the bashing? I thought Tide fans and UGA fans got along pretty good. Heck, I am pulling for the Tide to whip Texas. No problem with the Tide at all. Gees….go to the Auburn board and spew your venom.


December 29th, 2009
12:59 pm

Top 10 most valuable college football programs released by Forbes magazine last week. UGA #9. See any ACC teams? NOPE BTW, 8 of the SEC teams are listed in the Top 20. ACC-0

1. Texas Longhorns

Team Value: $119 million

Profit: $59 million

Head Coach: Mack Brown

Conference: Big 12

Previous Value Rank: 2

Austin, Texas, Metro Population: 1,652,602

University of Texas licensed merchandise has outsold all other academic institutions for four consecutive years.

2. Notre Dame Fighting Irish

Team Value: $108 million

Profit: $38 million

Head Coach: Brian Kelly*

Conference: Independent

Previous Value Rank: 1

South Bend, Ind., Metro Population: 316,865

An agreement that gives Notre Dame 1/66 of all Bowl Championship Series net revenues, means the Fighting Irish have received $4 million in payments from the BCS over the last three years, despite going 15-21 in the regular season and not qualifying for a single New Year’s Day or later bowl game.

*Replaced Charlie Weis after 2009 season.

3. Pennsylvania State Nittany Lions

Team Value: $99 million

Profit: $50 million

Head Coach: Joe Paterno

Conference: Big Ten

Previous Value Rank: 13

State College, Pa., Metro Population: 144,779

Penn State’s Beaver Stadium is the largest building in college football with a listed capacity of 107,282 (but has held almost 111,000 on game day).

4. Nebraska Cornhuskers

Team Value: $93 million

Profit: $49 million

Head Coach: Bo Pelini

Conference: Big 12

Previous Value Rank: 18

Lincoln, Neb., Metro Population: 295,486

Donations required by Nebraska for season ticket holders to keep their seats totaled $15 million last season.

5. Alabama Crimson Tide

Team Value: $92 million

Profit: $38 million

Head Coach: Nick Saban

Conference: Southeastern

Previous Value Rank: 9

Tuscaloosa, Ala., Metro Population: 206,765

The waiting list to obtain season tickets for the Crimson Tide is currently 15,210 names long. Once selected, new ticket holders must make a donation to the athletic department that ranges from $5,000 to $500,000 (depending on seat location) before receiving any tickets.

6. Florida Gators

Team Value: $88 million

Profit: $41 million

Head Coach: Urban Meyer

Conference: Southeastern

Previous Value Rank: 5

Gainesville, Fla., Metro Population: 258,555

Gator fans shelled out a total of $145,000 last year just to have their names inscribed on the brick pathway leading up to Ben Hill Griffin Stadium.

7. Louisiana State Tigers

Team Value: $86 million

Profit: $39 million

Head Coach: Les Miles

Conference: Southeastern

Previous Value Rank: 6

Baton Rouge, La., Metro Population: 774,327

Each Tigers home game weekend generates an estimated $8.2 million in direct spending by visitors to East Baton Rouge Parish.

8. Ohio State Buckeyes

Team Value: $85 million

Profit: $36 million

Head Coach: Jim Tressel

Conference: Big Ten

Previous Value Rank: 10

Columbus, Ohio, Metro Population: 1,773,120

Ohio State is the only athletic department in the nation that can lay claim to having a team in the top 10 in both Forbes’ college football rankings and college basketball rankings, where they are the 10th most valuable team.

9. Georgia Bulldogs

Team Value: $84 million

Profit: $45 million

Head Coach: Mark Richt

Conference: Southeastern

Previous Value Rank: 3

Athens, Ga., Metro Population: 189,264

Georgia Bulldogs apparel was the third-highest selling of any university last academic year, behind only Texas and Florida.

10. Oklahoma Sooners

Team Value: $83 million

Profit: $40 million

Head Coach: Bob Stoops

Conference: Big 12

Previous Value Rank: 11

Cleveland County, Okla., Population: 239,760

Of the $19.4 million raised by the Sooners in donations tied to season tickets last year, 92% was generated by the football team.