There COULD be an Alabama-Florida rematch for national title

 

 

Don’t look now folks but we COULD have a rematch of the SEC championship game for the BCS national title.

I know I’ve said for weeks that this cannot happen, that the voters in the human polls would not allow a team that loses on championship Saturday to turn right around and play for the national title a month later. But now we are looking at the real numbers and the numbers do not lie.

Florida and Alabama are 1-2 in the latest BCS Standings. They are tied for the No. 1 spot in the computers. Look at the gap in the total rating between No. 2 Alabama (.9513) and No. 4 TCU (.8689) and No. 5 Cincinnati (.8547).  Alabama has almost a full one-tenth of a point over TCU and Cincinnati. In this system that is huge! TCU (12-0) is done for the season and Cincinnati (11-0) plays a Pittsburgh team (9-2) that lost last week to West Virginia.

What does this mean? It means that if Texas loses to Nebraska in the Big 12 championship game, the SEC championship game loser, if it is a really tight game, has a real chance to finish No. 2 in the final BCS Standings. That’s because the computers will still love them because their only loss this season was to a team ranked in the top two.

It will all come down to the human voters and how far they drop the SEC championship game loser. If the loser of that game only drops to No. 3 or No. 4 in the human polls, then it can finish No. 2 in the BCS standings because of the computers. So it could be that a 12-0 TCU, a 12-0 Cincinnati and a 13-0 Boise State get squeezed out.

Remember this: The voters in the human polls realized in 2006 that their votes set up the BCS championship matchup. That’s why they moved No. 4 Florida ahead of No. 3 Michigan in their final polls. Michigan had had its shot and lost to No. 1 Ohio State and No. 2 USC had lost.

This also has a chance to be a repeat of 2003 when Southern California finished No. 1 in both human polls and did not get into the BCS championship game. If Texas loses on Saturday, then TCU or Cincinnati could finish No. 2 in the human polls but get left out of the big game in favor of a one-loss team from the SEC.

If Texas takes care of Nebraska on Saturday we will not have this argument. But if Texas loses, look out. If Florida and Alabama have a rematch for the national championship, those who want to blow up the BCS system will have a lot more ammunition that the system unfairly favors the elites of college football.

And boy, will that be a fun argument.

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306 comments Add your comment

St Simons

November 30th, 2009
8:50 am

(((((((((((((((((((( 30-24 ))))))))))))))))))))

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

m is a complete tool

November 30th, 2009
8:53 am

m was right. The SEC is more down than it usually is. I’m just glad it’s not so down that two of its mediocre teams still couldn’t beat the ACC Championship game participants. Now THAT would be a down year.

If y’all want to just go ahead and send South Carolina and Georgia down here to Tampa for the ACC Championship that’s cool. It would sell more tickets anyway.

David

November 30th, 2009
8:54 am

If Texas loses to Nebraska, TCU will get in. The voters who do not want a playoff will make sure of that.

Paul H

November 30th, 2009
8:55 am

Remember when m was saying he was looking forward to the “annual stomping of UGA??” Annual as in 1 victory in 9 years?? hahahaha… 30-24. GLAD IT HURTS SO MUCH

Paul H

November 30th, 2009
8:58 am

What do the 2 best ACC teams have in common?? They both got physically manhandled by their SEC counterparts!

GT45

November 30th, 2009
8:58 am

How’s the weather in Shreveport? Gotta put TCU in, if that happens-

Eric

November 30th, 2009
8:58 am

I’ve been saying the same thing for weeks. But remember this, Tony almost never gets it right. At half time he said Alabama would start to wear Auburn down and would win by double digits. Alabama never led in that game until the end. And they certainly didn’t win by double digits. He also said that Tech would roll over UGA. He may know about college football, but his prognositcation abilities leave much to be desired. I don’t really expect a rematch with UF and UAT because I think UF blows them out, but it could happen. In the mean time, I have nothing to hang my head about. Our season turned out better than anyone thought it would. It’s Great to be An Auburn Tiger. War Eagle!! And one more time, m=moron!

D

November 30th, 2009
8:58 am

Tony I think the only the way that could happen would be if Alabama wins in the final seconds of the game, I know crazier things have happened. I think Texas takes care of Nebraska and Bama wins a close one at the Dome. Alabama and Texas for the NC

RAMBLE ON!!!

November 30th, 2009
9:00 am

Congratulations fleabags, this is the greatest victory in UGAg history since Buck got lucky with Lindsay Scott, and don’t pretend its not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82wU5NfRfr4

The real St. Simons

November 30th, 2009
9:00 am

(((((((((((24-30)))))))))))

wahhhhhhhhhh!wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Josey Whales

November 30th, 2009
9:01 am

Tony, I have had to look at your headline “Ga Tech will roll over Georgia” since Friday and you did not even address that. Very disapointed. I still think you are the man when it comes to College Football knowledge but a little crow for breakfast would have been nice from you.

Joe

November 30th, 2009
9:03 am

Hey Tony….Cat got your tonque?????? what happened to the tech blowout of UGA. No mention??? what a jerk- all you can do is write about your dear Alabama and Florida teams??????? Typical- at least we shoved a nice dose of crow down yours, marks and Jeff’s throat!

GatorG

November 30th, 2009
9:04 am

Tony,

I don’t know about you, but I think the excessive celebration call on Florida’s Aaron Hernandez last Saturday against FSU is the single worst officiating mistake I have seen in my three decades of watching the sport.

Ok, maybe I as big a biased homer as you are.

Big Al

November 30th, 2009
9:05 am

Eric, glad you can celebrate moral victories.

Jeff

November 30th, 2009
9:06 am

So Mr. College Football….no mention of UGA beating Tech????? What a joke you are. Typical from the AJC

Tide Rising

November 30th, 2009
9:07 am

I don’t think anyone, not even the loser of the Bama-Florida game, would want a rematch. Its asking way too much for Bama to beat Florida twice in one season and vice versa. If, and that’s a big If, we beat Florida Saturday I would sick if I knew it meant nothing and that we would have to turn right back around and do it all over again a month later. Someone else would deserve a shot.

JWalker

November 30th, 2009
9:08 am

Tony,

Not a GT or UGA fan, but disappointed you didn’t address that game this morning. Huge upset. Love seeing the GTers put in their place. Haven’t liked them ever seen Coach Dodd disrespected Coach Bryant.

All that said, Bama will take care of business on Saturday. Saban relishing the underdog role right now.

RTR.

JWalker

Cory

November 30th, 2009
9:08 am

You call yourself Mr. College Football and cant write an article in the ATLANTA newspaper about UGA beating Tech after all your bashing???? You choose to write about Alabama and Florida??? What a piece of slime

Got 12?

November 30th, 2009
9:09 am

Eric,

Which Iron Bowl loss was worse–getting stomped last year or losing in the final two minutes this year?

Please note: In the record books, there is no column for moral victories.

Tide Rising

November 30th, 2009
9:11 am

Putting my broom up after sweeping the ACC 3-0 this weekend including 2 blowouts to make the season series 5-2 SEC. Wonder where m is today.

TexasDAWG

November 30th, 2009
9:12 am

St Simons: 30-34 HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Jax Dawg

November 30th, 2009
9:18 am

Hopefully the loss on Saturday will keep Tech fans to topics they know, talking about the ACC and graduation rates.

red hill

November 30th, 2009
9:18 am

Clear double standard present if the media votes for a UA/UF rematch. I thought all media/ESPN types had made it de facto law that only conference champions can play for the BCS title. So that’s the case unless it’s Alabama and Florida? I won’t watch and it will demean the entire process even more as far as I’m concerned.

Cory

November 30th, 2009
9:19 am

hahahahahahahah where are all the jackette fans today????????? St. Simons….where are you???????

Joe

November 30th, 2009
9:20 am

A funny thing happened to the Nerds on their way to Tampa…..LMAO!!!!!!!!

Ted

November 30th, 2009
9:21 am

Hey Barnhart- pretty classless dude. No mention of UGA over Tech

Eric

November 30th, 2009
9:21 am

Thanks PigAl and got12. I never said anything about a celebration. I’m just not ashamed. I have no reason to be. Auburn scared the crap out bama and thier fans. In a way I supposed you could call it a moral victory, but I never did. I’m disappointed with the loss, but it’s a ballgame. I have every expectation that I’ll survive. I think saint simons learned a lesson this season. You might want to give that some thought. Things you say have a way of coming back to haunt you. If you think UAT is on some neverending roll, you’re delusional. Good luck in ATL and MSY. War Eagle!!!

Ohio State fan

November 30th, 2009
9:22 am

Well, the ACC took it on the chin this weekend – that conference is almost as bad as my beloved Big 10. lol

Seriously, the ACC is in bad shape!

jumbeauxtiger

November 30th, 2009
9:22 am

I would not want to see a rematch and if this occurs there will be outrage around the country.

If I still lived in Georgia I would love to be at the Dome on Saturday night. What a game that should be.

UGASlobberknocker

November 30th, 2009
9:25 am

Tony: re your picks

4-6.

Really?

Mikey

November 30th, 2009
9:25 am

T- care to recap your picks from Friday?
I believe you went 4-6…

Josh Fowler

November 30th, 2009
9:27 am

It’s great to be a Dawg

David

November 30th, 2009
9:27 am

To all the folks claiming S. Car and UGA as “ACC champs”… Tennessee sez “Yo!”

ga boy

November 30th, 2009
9:28 am

Hey Ted, get over it! In the grander scheme of things the UGA-Tech game was minor leagues. The game this Saturday is the biggest game of the year and is played right here in Atlanta. Get off Tony’s back and get ready for the big boys to take the field.

R.U. KIDDEN-ME

November 30th, 2009
9:29 am

eric,A BLOWOUT??!! COME NOW,LET’ S NOT LET OUR HATRED FOR BAMA OVERCOME OUR KNOWLEDGE OF FOOTBALL!! WAIT A MINUTE….YOUR A barner….YOU DON’T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT FOOTBALL!!! I’LL BETCHA’ IF ALL THEM COW’ AND CHICKEN’S GET REALLY QUITE DOWN AT THE BARN AND YOU LISTEN REAL CLOSE….YOU,eric,CAN STILL HEAR RAMMER JAMMER ECHOING AT jurrden hare!!!I’M SOOO GLAD TO SEE IT HURT’S SOOO BAD,THE BEST IS YET TO COME!!! 26-21….ROLL TIDE ROLL!!! BACK TO BACK BABY!!!

Tony just got punked - after 20 years

November 30th, 2009
9:29 am

Hey Tony – I ran into Jim Fennel at the Iron Bowl. I admired his Congressional Medal of Honor he won at Gettysburg during Pickett’s Charge. I thought you might want to write a story about that too.

Herschel Talker

November 30th, 2009
9:32 am

RAMBLE ON!!! -

ACTUALLY, BEATING YOU IN 1997 WAS MORE SATISFYING SINCE YOU NERDS THOUGHT YOU HAD WON, ONLY TO HAVE US RIP OUT YOUR HEARTS. THIS WIN WAS MORE HO HUM.

Mr. CF = Joke

November 30th, 2009
9:33 am

…and I quote “but there is no evidence that the Bulldogs can handle a tough, physical football game for quarters. That is exactly what GT will give them. GT 38, UGA 21.”

Got that one wrong Mr. CF. If you knew college football, you should have said “if UGA doesn’t turn it over 4 times there is no reason they won’t beat Tech.”

im4bama

November 30th, 2009
9:34 am

The ONLY way a rematch can happen is if Bama wins the SEC and Texas loses, then Florida will get another shot. No way Bama get’s any love from voter’s for playing a close game but doesn’t win the SEC game. TCU, Cincy and Boise may be good, but they are not the top 3 no matter who ahead of them loses a game.

Ron Mexico

November 30th, 2009
9:35 am

Not a chance in hell of seeing two SEC teams in the championship game, even if Texas and Cinci lose.

Chris F

November 30th, 2009
9:36 am

As a Bama fan I am very glad we got sucker punched by Auburn instead of by Florida. Auburn did many trick plays a very early on-side kick and jumped up 14-0 on Bama. Kudos to Auburn’s defense for shutting down Ingram, he is still a heisman calibur runner Auburn just commited to stopping the run and practiced on it for 2 weeks. I think it was a good thing to have a tough game against Auburn because it reminded Alabama that no team is invincible. I expect a war in the SECCG! Ingram will return to glory this week win or lose. Also Bama proved they CAN beat you with McElroy. ROLL TIDE!!

Dizzog

November 30th, 2009
9:38 am

Dear Ramble On: only a Tech fan would believe that UGA cares so much about Tech for Saturday’s win to be the biggest in 20 years…We have played in 3 and won 2 SEC championship games and the BCS games against Hawaii, VT, and FSU were pretty big wins as well (I haven’t even mentioned the 2007 Florida game). We know that the Tech win last year was the biggest game in school history for you, but please, UGA has had some pretty meaningful victories over the last 7 years. I cannot stand L-Dawg, but what do Tech and UGA fans have in common? They are obsessed with the Dawgs.

GatorG

November 30th, 2009
9:38 am

David, we’re all aware that Tennessee has won the SEC Moral Championship.

CharlotteGator

November 30th, 2009
9:39 am

Great weekend coming up for college football. Can’t wait to make the trip to the dome to watch the SECCG. I’d like to think this will be an annual voyage, but I know better. In a lot of ways, as a Gator fan, I’m playing w/ house money. The last 4 years have been a golden age of sorts (between b-ball and football) for UF sports and it probably won’t be repeated again in my lifetime.

Back to the game, I saw someone mention that Saban is relishing the underdog roll. I have to disagree as every commentator I watched on CBS and ESPN was clearly leaning tide, and everything I’ve read (except Vegas spreads) gives the Tide the edge. Don’t put much stock in spreads as that is all about getting everyone’s money and not what will happen on the field. Also, my eyeballs and small semblance of football acumen point towards the Tide advantage. I love having Tebow and our D, but the truth is that the Tide have more to play for in terms of the revenge factor from last year. I’d guess that Bama has a bit more pressure on them given the redemption factor, but I also think that in a game already full of motivation, the redemption piece gives a little edge to Bama there as well. Just my 2 cents. I anticipate my take on the game changing throughout the week.

Also, here’s to Ingram being a go on Saturday. Losing Harvin last year was sickening and I wouldn’t wish that on any fanbase. Not even the Dawgs ;) Congrats on the win w/o AJ. Very impressive showing and did the SEC proud.

FactuAll

November 30th, 2009
9:39 am

can’t see a rematch of Bama vs UF under any circumstances. I think the powers that be are a little afraid of congress. Setting up that type of rematch for the NC would give Hatch and friends unlimited ammunition.

I’m sure this game Saturday will be a bubble knocker…here’s hoping for a great game, and a Bama win.

jumbeauxtiger

November 30th, 2009
9:40 am

GT VET

November 27th, 2009
12:06 pm
“LOL these blogs are a HOOT!!..SEC fans crying about losing to that weak ACC..must not be too weak huh..yea but yall only play the weak SEC teams…”

So what is your response now? We’re waiting :D

The SEC took some luster off of the ACC title game on Saturday. So much for the SEC being down :)

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

Ted

November 30th, 2009
9:40 am

GaBoy: Boy is correct- you are that.

KR

November 30th, 2009
9:41 am

Congratulations to ‘Bama fans on their victory this past weekend. It wasn’t even close to the blowout that some of your more obnoxious fans were predicting, but I’m sure you’ll take it.

I’m not sure where this “moral victory” stuff came from. Don’t misread our optimism for the future. We don’t view the game as a moral victory and I’m pretty sure Lane Kiffen didn’t when Urban Meyer hung it on UT. It sounds more like the winning team trying to justify why the margin of victory wasn’t as large as people expected.

Looking forward to watching the SEC championship game. It should be a good game to watch, even if I do want both teams to lose.

Jeff

November 30th, 2009
9:41 am

So paul johnson has “bigger fish to fry”?? Spurrier fried that fish earlier Sat. ACC= Joke of the Nation

Jeff

November 30th, 2009
9:42 am

hey Ga Boy…..you’re a loser just like your pal Barnhart. Are you Baby College Football?