There COULD be an Alabama-Florida rematch for national title
Don’t look now folks but we COULD have a rematch of the SEC championship game for the BCS national title.
I know I’ve said for weeks that this cannot happen, that the voters in the human polls would not allow a team that loses on championship Saturday to turn right around and play for the national title a month later. But now we are looking at the real numbers and the numbers do not lie.
Florida and Alabama are 1-2 in the latest BCS Standings. They are tied for the No. 1 spot in the computers. Look at the gap in the total rating between No. 2 Alabama (.9513) and No. 4 TCU (.8689) and No. 5 Cincinnati (.8547). Alabama has almost a full one-tenth of a point over TCU and Cincinnati. In this system that is huge! TCU (12-0) is done for the season and Cincinnati (11-0) plays a Pittsburgh team (9-2) that lost last week to West Virginia.
What does this mean? It means that if Texas loses to Nebraska in the Big 12 championship game, the SEC championship game loser, if it is a really tight game, has a real chance to finish No. 2 in the final BCS Standings. That’s because the computers will still love them because their only loss this season was to a team ranked in the top two.
It will all come down to the human voters and how far they drop the SEC championship game loser. If the loser of that game only drops to No. 3 or No. 4 in the human polls, then it can finish No. 2 in the BCS standings because of the computers. So it could be that a 12-0 TCU, a 12-0 Cincinnati and a 13-0 Boise State get squeezed out.
Remember this: The voters in the human polls realized in 2006 that their votes set up the BCS championship matchup. That’s why they moved No. 4 Florida ahead of No. 3 Michigan in their final polls. Michigan had had its shot and lost to No. 1 Ohio State and No. 2 USC had lost.
This also has a chance to be a repeat of 2003 when Southern California finished No. 1 in both human polls and did not get into the BCS championship game. If Texas loses on Saturday, then TCU or Cincinnati could finish No. 2 in the human polls but get left out of the big game in favor of a one-loss team from the SEC.
If Texas takes care of Nebraska on Saturday we will not have this argument. But if Texas loses, look out. If Florida and Alabama have a rematch for the national championship, those who want to blow up the BCS system will have a lot more ammunition that the system unfairly favors the elites of college football.
And boy, will that be a fun argument.
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Big Al
November 30th, 2009
3:06 pm
Alabama will take care of business this Saturday afternoon. Texas will more than likely pull it out also, if not we don’t care plenty of time to prepare for whom ever.
Bama Tide
November 30th, 2009
3:06 pm
Mark it down–Bama will beat UF by 10 in Atlanta and if they play again, it will be worse! Bama’s the best team in America by far—-go ahead and make it 13 national titles baby!!!!!
TCU to NC game
November 30th, 2009
3:08 pm
I hope to see one of these undefeated teams from these crying conferences play in the NC game. They will get what they deserve. There should not be a rematch in any NC game. If the two teams have already played the winner is the winner, even if the match took place in any week of the season!
m is short for mullet
November 30th, 2009
3:14 pm
buzznsc still bitter I see!!!
dawg26
November 30th, 2009
3:16 pm
No way Texas loses so this is a pointless argument.
BANDITDAWGG
November 30th, 2009
3:16 pm
Fla will roll all over the tide.This game want even be close give the 5& and half. Book it dano.
Spike
November 30th, 2009
3:21 pm
Tony, I have to agree with some of the know it alls above, but in a nicer way. Nothing about UGA-Tech? Pretty darn lame. Hey Techies, glad it hurts so much. You guys going to have rings with the score on it? How can I order one?
Frank N. Furter
November 30th, 2009
3:21 pm
TCU to NC game,
Do you really believe TCU would be undefeated if they played in the SEC or Big XII?
secspanksacc
November 30th, 2009
3:22 pm
I just saw one of the best examples of SEC supremacy. Tickets for this weeks SEC Championship game start at $388 a pop. If you would like to go to this years ACC Championship game the tickets start at….(wait for it)….$17. Middle school games in Texas cost more!
Jt sizzle
November 30th, 2009
3:26 pm
It would not be possible for the loser of the SEC Championship game to play for the National Title. The human pollsters made a decision in the 2007 football season that if you don’t win your conference there is no way you can play for the National Title game. This is what happened to Georgia in 2007. Even though we were by far the best team in the country at the end of the year we didn’t get that opportunity. The loser of this game should be completely eliminated from the chance of a rematch, PERIOD! If the loser does get in this game I’ll be raisin’ hell. GO DAWGS!!!!
gdawginkalamazoo
November 30th, 2009
3:36 pm
athendawgs, the behavior from the victory Saturday is more or less based upon the other results, or lack thereof, of this season. Sure we didn’t expect to win the East this year, not with Tebow back. Matter of fact we weren’t sure if we would be .500 or not by a lot of preseason predictions. Of course we expected a better record by shear talent a lone. Unfortunately, we didn’t have all the talent we needed or the coaches to coach up what talent we did have.
With that said the recation to Saturdays game is just one big release of pent up frustration. Frustration of having to listen to and read what the bees wrote EVERY SINGLE DAY since beating us last year. Then having the AJC writers pile on about Tech and how they are now the POWER in the state after one bad year by us and a decent year by them. Frustration. This dawg fan expects to comete year in and year out for SEC titles. Kind of like we did earlier in Richts tenure. With a change in the DC and Richt getting involved on the offensive side a little more UGA isn’t as far off as many people think. Loaded with talent would be an understatement. Getting the coaching staff right won’t be hard. As bitter as this season has been, you are damn right we should be celebrating beating a #7 ranked Tech. A #7 ranked anybody I think we would be happy.
tracy
November 30th, 2009
3:39 pm
where is M after all that talkin on Fri about the SEC being overrated M can’t be found.face it the SEC is just a lot better conference
dawg07
November 30th, 2009
3:39 pm
Only if UAT wins. Look at Alabama close wins sometimes with help of officials? Their week schedule, of the current top 25 ranked teams they played no one in top 10 and only two in the top 25. Off season for SEC. Lets not kid anyone. Who have they rolled over recently.
dawg07
November 30th, 2009
3:41 pm
Auburn went undefeated a few years back and didn’t get into national championship game. Is the SEC that much better today?
Coach O
November 30th, 2009
3:46 pm
Hardly any chance of Nebraska beating Texas. Even less chance of the SECCG loser playing for the NC. Alabama should be a slight favorite in a game that is nearly too close to call. I see Bama 2009 slightly better than Bama 2008. I see the opposite when I watch Florida.
Either of these teams beats Texas. Their defense is too soft.
gdawginkalamazoo
November 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
dawg07, makes me wonder what conference the refs will be from for the BCS title game.
Dadgummit pardon my typing today folks.
gdawginkalamazoo
November 30th, 2009
4:04 pm
secspanksacc, now that is funny.
Got 12?
November 30th, 2009
4:04 pm
Who will enjoy better ingredients, better pizza in Birmingham next month?
Hmmmmm
November 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
I sure hope there is not a rematch. Yuck. I can hardly stand the thought of watching the SEC Champ game as it is.
It is hard to stomach the two fan bases already. Why not just have AL and FL play each other every week. Then the media can get it on with Saban and Tebow every single day.
While the GA fans are happy to see Tebow graduate, ESPN is crying all day at the loss of their man crush. It’s is really gross to watch and to listen too. Good Luck next year Timmy…..
Ramble ON and M
November 30th, 2009
4:09 pm
We finally came out of mourning and showed our faces. We would like to continue to speak out like the jackasses we are. He Haw, King score again… He Haw.. Ealey for another 20. He Haw… best Tech team in 20 years can’t beat the worst UGA team in 13 years.
CPJ is a genius.. incomplete, incomplete, incomplete… whoops game over.
Can you say dominated, ass kicked, beat up. Dwyer up the middle.. no gain… again.
We sux and we know we sux and our reason for being is to show our ass in front of Dawg fans. Thanks for the priviledge.
Larry
November 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
Said it before; say it again: ACC football is a joke.
Common Sense
November 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
We need an NCAA play off for Division I.
crackbaby
November 30th, 2009
4:23 pm
If Texas loses, TCU is in the championship game. To exclude them would be a travesty. Tony – it is irresponsible to suggest otherwise.
IMO, Florida will take Bama to the woodshed. Bama could win, it’s why the play the game, but the Gators would have to have a major meltdown.
Common Decency
November 30th, 2009
4:23 pm
They may have the best team in the country but that does not change the fact that Florida Gator fans are the most redneck in the nation.
Really?
November 30th, 2009
4:26 pm
Yes, and “GT (COULD) roll over UGA” but…
EricADawgFan
November 30th, 2009
4:27 pm
Mark my words everybody…. I am hardly ever wrong on this: Florida will not beat Bama this year. Florida is suspect. Florida does not have enough to beat Bama this year. Bama Wins the SEC Championship and the National Championship this year under Nick Saban.
Really?
November 30th, 2009
4:31 pm
GT45- You make a good point. Shouldn’t the winner of the ACC Chumpionship go to Shreveport?
Ramble On???- I know UGA only gets the chance to upset GT once a decade but I can think I five other wins in the last two years that were much bigger.
Ramble ON SPEAKS
November 30th, 2009
4:37 pm
RAMBLE ON!!!
November 30th, 2009
9:00 am
Congratulations fleabags, this is the greatest victory in UGAg history since Buck got lucky with Lindsay Scott, and don’t pretend its not.
Actually this is pretty much the norm for UGA vs Tech… 8 of last 9 and 60/39/5 ring a bell. It’s really only newsworthy when Tech wins.
jumbeauxtiger
November 30th, 2009
4:39 pm
Got 12?
“Bama has played:
#7 Va Tech
#9 LSU
#20 Ole Miss
#22 S. Car
And will play #1 Florida and #2 Texas to finish the year.”
You really think the Cornhuskers will win and the Longhorns make their way to the Sugar?
Geaux Tigers
Go SEC
GOT 12 Coverts
November 30th, 2009
4:41 pm
After 2 losses to end the season last year I am converting to Tebow mormanism. After we lose to UF on saturday we can pray together we don’t get embarrassed again in the Sugar bowl.
Fleischman loves BBC in the NYC
November 30th, 2009
4:44 pm
Georgia should hire Charlie Weis ;P
2009 Music $hitty Bowl here we come.. go doggies !
jumbeauxtiger
November 30th, 2009
4:44 pm
Curious what anyone thinks about the near brawl late in the USC-UCLA game after the Trojans threw a bomb for a TD.
Also, I thought it was odd that CPJ was going deep 3 straight times out of the final 4 plays Tech had the ball.
Fleischman loves BBC in the NYC
November 30th, 2009
4:45 pm
The Bama haters are such homos
GET OVER THE BLACKOUT GAME YOU F0CKING LEG HUMPERS
jumbeauxtiger
November 30th, 2009
4:49 pm
You know I’m just kidding Got 12?. Good luck on Saturday.
Fleischman gets a briss
November 30th, 2009
4:58 pm
Fleischman… relax Dude.. Do you think Dawg fans are going to pull for the lizards? Probably not but it won’t change the outcome. Bama can’t stop Tebow or Utah.
Scoots
November 30th, 2009
5:14 pm
There’s absolutely no point in having Bama-Florida twice. If one beats one, and then the reverse happens in the Nat’l Championship Game, then you’ve resolved nothing because they are now 1-1 against each other. So the team that wins the 2nd game is the better of the two because it’s the second game? Please.
You have to have TCU slide up if Texas loses.
Ga boy
November 30th, 2009
5:20 pm
Absolutely- if Texas loses then it’s TCU in the NC game. NO QUESTION.
TampaGator
November 30th, 2009
5:21 pm
The winner Saturday is the SEC Champion, and only conference champions should go to the BCS title game…period. Same with Michigan and Ohio State a few years ago. If not, what purpose does Saturday’s game serve. The winner go to the NC game and the loser goes to the Sugar Bowl (and proably gets beat again because they lost the SEC title game). It is sad that the Sugar Bowl no longer has meaning for SEC teams. Imagine if there was a playoff. It senario would be even worse for non title game teams. I personally wish there wasn’t a NC game…just the bowl games like years ago. The other big bowls are just paper wrapping now. The only game that matters in the NC game, and that is bad for college football in my opinion. A playoff system would be even worse for major college football as well.
SevenMore
November 30th, 2009
5:25 pm
Is Tenuta available now since Charlies is out at ND? Would we want him?
Dawgone
November 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
What happened to the idea that you could not play for the national championship when you don’t even win your own conference? Remember Georgia a couple of years ago. Well both Florida and Alabama can’t win the conference!
Ga boy
November 30th, 2009
5:33 pm
That’s just Mr SEC- errrr Mr college football (cough) trying to stir up some dust. Also it was a slow sports day this morning
jackson
November 30th, 2009
5:34 pm
m,
The old sheriff got re-elected Saturday nite. Wonder if it will be another 7 year term. You should change your “annual beating of the Dawgs” to once every decade upset of the Dawgs. No mudholes on my arse as you predicted. Finally, that 4-3 ACC vs SEC record ended up 2-5 with wins over Vandy and Miss. St. that had a combined SEC record of
3-13 so congratulations on that big accomplishment.
To real Ga Tech fans–congratulations on a great season and make it even better by taking care of business in Tampa. See you next year in Athens and I’m sure it will be competitive again.
gators81
November 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
fsu’s freeze offense….biggest joke (desperate) since rex reed said he was hetero.
projected attendance at the acc championship….2,587…not counting the bands!
acc= debacle
gators81
November 30th, 2009
5:47 pm
ps…friend works at hooters…nearest to the stadium in tampa…they did not order extra kegs!!
that says it all!!
GT
November 30th, 2009
5:55 pm
They are not going to have two teams that have a possibility of leaving controversy on the table play each other. They whoever the hell they are, go out of their way to leave messes like you are describing out of the equations of National Championships. If Alabama beats Florida they will be crying the blues if they have to play them again, and then Florida beats Alabama in the championship there would be more crying about how unfair it is. Florida State got a rematch with Florida because Spurrier made so much noise about late hits. He took the attention off what was a national championship and put it on FSU and cheap shots. FSU couldn’t wait to show these guys what for and Spurrier had them and the national championship exactly where he wanted them. Modern day NCAA doesn’t care about anything except a clear champion right or wrong they want a clear king of college football to be their poster child. That is why Georgia played Hawaii two years ago instead of USC in the Rose Bowl. You cannot have two beauty contest when their is just one crown.
TampaDawg86
November 30th, 2009
6:11 pm
If this happens its complete BS!!!!! I like Alabama over UF and I know both teams are better than Texas, TCU, and CINN however if Georgia 2 years ago who was the Hottest team who best LSU the National Champions why in the world did Georgia not play LSU or Ohio State then in the National Title why because Georgia doesn’t get any love like everybody gets on Florida’s Sac as well as Alabama’s! I’m so sick of hearing how much UF, USC, UT the real UT in texas, Oklahoma, and even Bama, and LSU as these top tier teams, even notre dame gets more love than Georgia has. Besides this year they have been the most consistant team in the Nation. I loved to get what TCU or Cinncy can do against Bama!
TampaDawg86
November 30th, 2009
6:13 pm
ATTENTION: THE FLORIDA NATIONAL RADAR HAS SPOTTED A HURRICANE WITH INGRAM SIZE HAIL, JULIO LIGHTNING, McCAIN STRONG WINDS, AND TRENT RICHARDSON SPEED. IF YOU ARE IN THE FLORIDA AREA, TUCK YOUR HEAD BETWEEN YOUR TAIL AND KISS YOUR BUTT GOODBYE BECAUSE THE TIDE IS MOVING IN!!!!!!!!
Clemson538
November 30th, 2009
6:15 pm
Whine all you want hhahaha. I don’t care we are in the ACC championship game. You are a middle of the pack of the SEC on a severely down year. You act like this one bad game defines who Clemson or Ga Tech are as a team. Pretty hillarious. We should of beat TCU if it weren’t for 2 blown calls. Does that mean USC is better then TCU? Fing hillarious. Have fun basking in your rivalry wins guys, and your SEC chants. GO TIGERS! F THE SEC!
17 of 20
November 30th, 2009
6:16 pm
Fla will beat bama and then beat the longhorns.
Go Gators.
Brett Shepherd
November 30th, 2009
6:19 pm
You have got to be kidding me…there is no way in hell there will be a rematch in the national title game. That is plain dumb. If Texas wins, they should play the winner of the SEC title game. We all know that Florida or Bama will be in the National title game, but it will be against Texas or even TCU or Boise State!
You SEC folks need to get over yourself.
Brett Shepherd
USC TROJANS FAN IN NORCROSS
PS-Before you make your USC comments just remember this, if it weren’t for USC whipping Bama in 1970, the SEC would not exist. Well it would be more like an IVY league conference due to the lack of desegregation.
So Bama fans, when you see Ingram running in for a TD…thank USC!
Gator fans, when Tebow hands off to Emanuel Moody and he scores..thank USC!