Five questions facing Georgia’s Mark Richt

 

The AJC did a good job this morning of breaking down issues that have contributed to Georgia’s 4-4 season. I thought Jeff Schultz made the central point when he wrote that Mark Richt didn’t suddenly become a bad coach after winning two SEC championships (2002, 2005) and playing for another (2003). When football teams have a bad season like this, the head coach has to be willing to look at everything and everybody in the offseason. In the final analysis, it really comes down to five questions that Richt musk ask and answer:

 

1. Despite what the recruiting services say, is Georgia recruiting the caliber of athlete that allows the Bulldogs to compete for the SEC championship? A big part of coaching that fans rarely talk about is the ability of a staff to evaluate talent and make decisions on players. If you are signing the players you want but still getting bad results, then maybe you have a problem in evaluating talent. Example: A couple of years ago the Georgia staff had to make a decision between running backs Caleb King and Jonathan Dwyer. King has been an average player at best for Georgia. Dwyer went to Georgia Tech and became the ACC Player of the Year.

Bobby Bowden once told me that the only reason he signed quarterback Charlie Ward was because the late Wayne McDuffie stood on a chair in a staff meeting and screamed that the Seminoles had to take the skinny kid out of Thomasville. Ward led the Seminoles to the national championship in 1993. Those kinds of decisions over the long haul can make or break a program.

I remember that when Jimmy Johnson was at Miami, his recruiting classes rarely made the Top 25. But the players he put on the field could run like the wind. That’s because Johnson was great at evaluating talent.

 

2. Is Georgia coaching the players it has up to their full potential? Steve Spurrier told me a long time ago that players tend to play the way they’ve been coached. If they play sloppy, then they’ve been coached sloppy. Excessive penalties and turnovers are a sign of some sloppiness in the program. It must be addressed and Richt must decide if his current staff is capable of fixing the problem. Sometimes head coaches must shake up the staff to send a message to everybody—players, trainers, water boys and other coaches—that mediocrity won’t be tolerated. It’s tough to do. But the great coaches do it when necessary.

 

3. Is the offseason conditioning program what it should be? I don’t know the answer to this but the question has to be asked. I do know that after Florida won the national championship in 2008, coach Urban Meyer told me that he had instructed his strength and conditioning staff to put the Gators through one of the toughest offseason programs ever. Why? “Complacency,” Meyer said. “We want them to understand that they cannot, for one minute, take credit for what last year’s team did.  If they want to compete for another national championship, they have to earn it.” I talked to a number of Florida players who said they got the message.

 Jeff Schultz wrote about the edge that some teams—like Florida and Alabama—have and the fact that Georgia doesn’t seem to have it. If you have good players, then that edge is created in the offseason workouts. Again, it’s a tough question because Georgia’s strength and conditioning people are considered to be some of the best. But you have to ask.

 

4. Do I need to have a conversation with my athletic director about scheduling? Fans don’t want to hear this. They want you to play eight SEC games, four big-time non-conference games, and win them all. That is simply not the way the world works. I think it’s great that Georgia went out and played Oklahoma State on Sept. 5. But the fact of the matter is that while Georgia was opening the season with seven straight opponents from BCS schools (with four of them on the road), Florida was tuning up for its first SEC game by playing Charleston Southern and Troy. Sure, Alabama played Virginia Tech but that game was in Atlanta, a short drive away. And before Alabama played its first conference game it also faced Florida International (2-6) and North Texas (2-6). It’s a good thing that athletics director Damon Evans wants to spread the Georgia brand all over the country, but you also have to look at what your competition is doing and be realistic about what you are asking players to do.

 

5. Does the head coach need to step up his game? First of all, I don’t buy the idea that Mark Richt has to change his basic personality. You have to be who you are. Mark Richt’s personality was embraced when he was winning SEC championships in 2002 and 2005. I can’t tell you how many Georgia people have told me with pride that: “He’s the perfect coach for us. This guy will never embarrass us.” Now that Georgia is having a bad season, Richt’s “nice guy” status comes into question. The thinking seems to be that a nice guy can’t compete with Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, and Lane Kiffin. I simply disagree. The truth is that Richt has an edge to him when he gets mad that few people outside the program ever see. He might want to show that a little more often.

 

But what the head coach can do, after he has evaluated all of the other areas in the program, is look in the mirror and decide if he needs to change his approach on a more fundamental level.

Bear Bryant faced such a crossroads in 1969 and 1970 when he had back-to-back teams that only won six games. People started saying Bryant was too old and that the game had passed him by. After the 1970 season Bryant told his staff that Alabama was switching to the wishbone offense and that everybody had to get with the program or get out of town. Starting in 1971 Alabama went on an 11-year run where the Crimson Tide won 116 games, nine SEC championships and three national championships.

In 1974 Vince Dooley’s defense was so bad that he actually told some friends that he would get out of coaching if he couldn’t get it turned around soon. Dooley made some adjustments and Georgia went to the Cotton Bowl in 1975 and won the SEC championship in 1976. And you know what happened in the early 80s.

The point is that the great coaches adjust and adapt when the tough times inevitably come. After this season is over, Georgia’s Mark Richt will face one of those times.

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623 comments Add your comment

RAMBLE ON!!!

November 4th, 2009
9:24 am

RAMBLE ON!!!

November 4th, 2009
9:24 am

Scout Dawg

November 4th, 2009
9:25 am

amen brother.

Fleischman in Chi Town's bed

November 4th, 2009
9:26 am

6. What is your favorite place to tan in Athens?

Steve

November 4th, 2009
9:27 am

Ealey: Spikes shouldn’t be suspended

Hey, Mr. Drama Queen CFB, where’s your expose today on this topic?

Yeah, too busy. Thought so.

Fat American

November 4th, 2009
9:28 am

Three words:

Martinez must go.

WTH

November 4th, 2009
9:28 am

Yea, but if Dwyer played in the SEC he probably would not even start. After all, he is playing in a high school offense. Isn’t that right Dawg fans?

Colin

November 4th, 2009
9:29 am

Good Article – I think Richt should stay at Georgia. It is too easy to look at a season or two and pass judgment. You should have enough “Grohmentum” before you should be fired. A couple of changes could turn Georgia back into the team that blasted LSU last year.

Ramblin Wreckers....

November 4th, 2009
9:30 am

Tony, great article this morning. Serious Georgia fan and I think your comments speak truth. Sometimes changes are needed and Coach Richt will do the right thing.

RAMBLE ON!!!

November 4th, 2009
9:30 am

That was a good about the scheduling Tony…and where is OSU ranked again?

CMR is a good coach. He’ll dump Willie (Please Don’t!!!), and take over the play calling duties next year. Bobo will be QB coach. That still won’t stop him from losing 3 in a row to GT next year though.

I’m out, I can’t find my bluebird.

me

November 4th, 2009
9:32 am

Ted Striker

November 4th, 2009
9:32 am

Nice analysis.

m

November 4th, 2009
9:33 am

Tony..it is obvious from you column that you are just as big a crybaby dawg as all the other dawg fans and their coaches and players. ugag has become pussified….might as well change their name to the bullkitties.

It is so obvious that Paul Johnson is going to kick ugag’s arse from now on…bend over dawgs…it is coming. Again and again.

Ramblin Rick

November 4th, 2009
9:34 am

Who cares about Mark Richt and those pathetic losers in Athens ???

Lets talk about some relevant football teams.

Gator Al

November 4th, 2009
9:34 am

Richt has lost it, Gators will rule Georgia as long as he is there and beyond.

Miles

November 4th, 2009
9:36 am

Mr. Barnhart, whereas you have an incredible amount of understanding for Richt’s situation, you certainly didn’t have the same amount of discernment for Phil Fulmer.

Griffin Dawg

November 4th, 2009
9:42 am

I do think the dawgs need to shake up some coaching spots or at least concepts.
UGA has athletes, has facilities, has $ backing. UGA needs to get back to coaching basics and not worry about cool music, new uniforms, who they play, or where they play.

Poor play by the O (turnovers) leads to the D being tested (and failing) and things get worse and worse and worse.
UGA must establish the run and then protect the ball. This is not a new concept: all teams that have success in the SEC do this. Those teams that win with their D prevent this. When the run breaks down and turnovers happen everything goes down hill.
If UGA needs new schemes, or coaches, or players to make the run work then that’s what needs to happen but at “tailback U” if you can’t run the ball effectively enough to make the passing game have a chance then there is not much chance of a winning season.

RAMBLE ON!!!

November 4th, 2009
9:44 am

Otto

November 4th, 2009
9:44 am

#2 seems to speak for itself since ‘06.

What is CMR changing other than “practicing harder and working on wht the team did well”?

Really?

November 4th, 2009
9:48 am

RAMBLE ON!!! – OSU is ranked 19th in the nation! Funny how your Jackets break the top 10 for the first time in god knows how long and you act as if you guys are always in the top 10 every year and being #19 in the nation is horrible.

UGA_VII

November 4th, 2009
9:48 am

Will Muschamp?

Dawg Dab It

November 4th, 2009
9:49 am

8 SEC games, Georgia Tech, Clemson and 2 D1-AA schools

Bryan G.

November 4th, 2009
9:50 am

Question No. 6 should be “Does Richt have the guts to make the hard decisions or will he be too loyal?”

38-3

November 4th, 2009
9:52 am

RAMBLE ON!!! = owned by uga once again…regardless of the bad season, still got uga on that simple mind!

Dizzog

November 4th, 2009
9:52 am

Kirby Smart should replace Martinez: Former UGA player, great coordinator getting no respect for what he has done at ALA because of the massive ego of Nick Saban and the massive ignorance of the national media.

Chick - Fil - A Bowl Rings

November 4th, 2009
9:53 am

Still waiting on GT…

m-hater

November 4th, 2009
9:54 am

I love GT and hate “m”. If you are a Georgia fan please don’t judge us by clowns like this. Go ahead and put yellow fuzz on that list too.

Monticello Dawg

November 4th, 2009
9:54 am

A message for our Tech friends: Hunker down, Yellow Jackets, the Dogs are coming for you.

Otto Strahl

November 4th, 2009
9:55 am

Every single day, your program is getting better or it is getting worse. UGas has been getting worse since 2005. UGas staff was tops 4-5 years ago, and it is as good now as it was then, but several programs have elevated theirs. If you think the current UGA staff will consistently beat Urban Meyers, you are sadly mistaken.

JaxDawg

November 4th, 2009
9:56 am

Tony- all great points. Let me ask this, are these coaches too stuborn and set in their ways?
Let me explain, while myself and others aren’t “experts” our eyes don’t lie.
1.Willie Martinez has run the EXACT same scheme every week. He has two weeks to prepare for UF and has a blueprint laid out for him by Arkansas and Miss St, yet he runs the same soft zone prevent defense that he has every other week. Why can’t he see what he’s doing is not working and make adjustments if not a major overhaul to his approach.

2. Of UGAs 21 turnovers this season Cox is responsible for 13 of them himself. Yet we’re supposed to believe that he gives us the best chance to win. Based on what exactly? Looking back at the spring game, both Murray and Gray looked better. We can’t judge Gray because he’s only had a handful of snaps and they have either come where he’s in a terrible situation (1st and 10 on their own 5) or in a formation that would tip even my 10yr old that they’re going to run. Cox is not the future and I find it very hard to believe that either of the young QBs could do WORSE than he has. At least they’d get some PT for next season.

3. We heard all spring and summer long that penaltites would be a major point of focus. Well I don’t know what they’ve done, but their “focus” on the problem has actually made it worse.

4. Ealy is CLEARLY a better RB than King but King gets the nod because he pass protects better. Why can’t the coaches pull Ealy aside and coach him up. We KNOW he can run, it seems to me with a little extra work he can be coached up to pick up blitz packages.

5. This brings me to the overall lack of DISCIPLINE. I firmly beleive if you want to know how a team is coached simply look at how the players carry themselves on the field. Players WILL take on the persona of the their coaches.
-Coaches lack of preparation = players lack of confidence on the field
-Coaches poor game plan = players being out of position.
-Coaches lack of focus = players lack of focus on the field = stupid penalties
-Coaches lack of accountability = players lack of accountability
-Coaches lack of passion and intensity = players lack of passion and intensity
-Coaches walking around looking defeated and having no answers = the same from the players.

I agree too that Richt hasn’t all of a sudden lost his ability to coach but he MUST begin to make tough decisions, and understand that dead weight must be cut even if it is a long time friend. This is EXACTLY why you DON’T hire friends, more times than not it will end poorly. Was Bobby Bowden correct when he said he thinks Mark’s TOO NICE to be a head coach? I suppose we’ll find out this offseason.
I’m just surprised with the coaching staff’s overall unwillingness to change. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it, but it IS BROKEN so they need to fix it and fast!!!
Go Dawgs!

Ginger

November 4th, 2009
9:57 am

Good read Tony !! You hit on some major points to evaluate. I, too, have thought about the talent evaluation process….I think we are hitting and missing on some talent and need to work on this and we need to coach up the players we have….Alabama has a lot of 3 star players that have been coached up and are playing like 4 or 5 star players.

A big thing that UGA needs to look at when evaluating talent is a player’s work ethic and will to win. A big part of the reason that Tim Tebow and Rennie Curran both as so good is that they have a tremendous will to win…they just are not going to quit an do what it takes to get the job done….With some of our UGA players…I don’t read about them putting in extra work on their own, i.e. film study, conditioning… Great Preparation translates into great play on the field…Players have to be willing to do some work on their own to get better. Also, with Tebow and Curran…I don’t see them getting down and out on the field and not going 150 percent all of the time…they both play like wildfire all the time…always believing that one more great play will put their team in position to win. Some of our UGA players now just look at times like they are lost or that there is no fire in their bellies….SEC is big time league….You got to play with fire and emotion that is under control of course so you don’t make dumb penalties…but fire and believing that you are going to win the game the whole time…staying positive and elevating everyone around you. Creating turnovers, throwing great TD passes, fighting for extra yards after you have been hitting, not going down on the 1st hit, make the great catch, hitting hard in the secondary, breaking up that pass, making the tremendous interception…..You have to be a playmaker and it starts with being positive and determined to do it.

So my advice to Coach Richt……Recruiting players that do this…and this player may not be the 5 star player….He may be the 3 star that you coach up and that brings this burning desire in his belly to UGA to win…..TO WIN……Sign THESE TYPE OF PLAYERS

Denver Dog

November 4th, 2009
9:58 am

I’m sure that they will be addressed. I don’t know if those questions are spot on, but they are some of the questions for sure.
1) Good players are there, no doubt about it.
2) Who knows about the coaching up, it appears that they are not. When a high school kid comes in he can either improve, Pollack, Greene, or stay the same, Cox, Bryan Evans. Is that coaching or talent? Coaching, schemes?
3)Conditioning, something is wrong for sure with all of the knee injuries. UGA doesn’t seem to give out at the end of the game, so I’m not sure what part that plays
4) Tough scheduling for sure, but the vaunted computer ranking services don’t seem to think it is as tough as the rest of us do.
5)Dooley, Dean Smith, Mack Brown, were all hung in effigy, maybe Richt does need to step up his game, maybe he has, it is just behind schedule for the last couple of years. Coaching remains an issue on both sides of the ball and on special teams. A thorough reveiw has to be made. The team this year is young. No seniors on o line, and in that case, you need to be more coaching those young ones. GO DOGS regardless, it will be handled I’m sure.

Michael Stipe

November 4th, 2009
9:58 am

m, ramblin’ rick, ramble on, and all the other Yecccch sychophants, I’m going to go off my vegan diet from now until Nov. 28th to build up some nasty farts to aim at the whole lot of ya!!!

Eating some seafood gumbo now.

The Real SugarHillDawg

November 4th, 2009
9:58 am

The apocalypse is upon us, m is calling someone pussified!”Bitch” is M’s middle name. We might lose 3 in a row(and I highly doubt it) but you North Avenue Nerds will NEVER have a run of seven and you Geeks need to be thankful for beating UGA once or twice in a decade!!!

Tony has a burr in his saddle

November 4th, 2009
9:59 am

Monticello Dawg… lay off the crack pipe… Tech is going to beat you like the Gators did.. or Tenn.. take your pick.. Georgia is simply not good this year. It will be close, will be high scoring, but Tech is too good this year.

Dont burn your mobile home in anger.

Tony…. you have whined more this year than anyone I have seen.. my gosh… get over it.. you team sucks !

DoveDawg

November 4th, 2009
9:59 am

Dead on point, Tony. Hard decisions must be made over the offseason.

Jake

November 4th, 2009
10:01 am

Fulmer was a good ole boy too. Very careful with what he said. Lane is shaking things up and understands the core values of what it takes to turn a team around. Fulmer could not. Yeah, Lane has made big statements, but its seems the team responds. Mark, is going have to come to the table, show it on the field and make some examples out of some of the kids. They seem to like the red flags called on them. Pull a kid for creating a red flag. Fla. will do this in a second. Ga. is a on a south bound run-away train.

Gravy Train

November 4th, 2009
10:01 am

If UGA is so irrelevant, as the geeks say now, then why do they go out of their way making such claims? It is laughable that they have already written us off.

Coach Richt is still the best coach for this program, a rebuilding period should not change that in the minds of so called fans. He is the one that got us to the point where 10 wins is the status quo.

Was it Goff or Donnan that made you feel like we could play for conference championships?

I see that Oklahoma and USC are sufering from similar growing pains.

CMR must do whatever it takes to instill a workmans mentality in the minds of the coaches and players. Hard work is the foundation of any successful entity.

brew

November 4th, 2009
10:01 am

Last year, you could have substituted “Tennessee” for Georgia and “Fulmer” for Richt, as we went through the same things. Fulmer failed on 1,2,3, and 5 with 4 being unimportant given the failings of the other four.
Georgia and Richt are falling into that same trap right now. Hopefully for uga, Richt won’t fall back on talking about how much equity he has there.

TommyJack

November 4th, 2009
10:04 am

Richt = Phil Fulmer, Jr. (minus the ring)

Got 12?

November 4th, 2009
10:05 am

Dizzog,

UGA is a sinking ship. Kirby is too Smart (pun intended) to jump aboard.

Blaming Willie is en vogue but UGA has problems in all three facets of the game. It will take more than Kirby to save the day.

matanzas gator

November 4th, 2009
10:06 am

Georgia Fans,

Hold Your Hand Up High and Proud and Repeat:

Four Whole Wins!!!
Four Whole Wins!!!
Four Whole Wins!!!

D.Ellis

November 4th, 2009
10:06 am

M-I can understand your love for Paul Johnson and the Jackets. His a very good coach that has is doing great things for GT and it’s fans.

But you are without a doubt one of the most negative pessamistic (sp) people to blog on the ajc. Do you ever have anything to bring to the table that might spark conversation or bring something to the table that you and fellow bloggers can conversate about, or carry on football conversation instead of insulting or saying the same thing over an over and over. It;s like you feel disrespected, or left beind because 99% of the time your posts are negative…..at least share your thoughts on your team and how GT’s season is going. It;s like you hate college football and everything about and everything that comes with it?????? What gives? Is college football really that bad that, that you feel compelled to post negative thoughts on a dily basis or when given the chance?

Thank god and greyhound I don’t know you in person!!!!

On to Tony-Yes those are great questions. The recruiting question is valid. Miss-R. Jones Hit-E. Berry. Am i to think that somehow E.Berry wentt o UT and got some kind of superior coaching that R. Jones didn’t get at UGA. Both were ranked #1 at their spot when they signed….just turns out E. Berry is a heck of a lot better.

I tihnk it;s the philosophy. It isn’t the same as when Richt came in. He built the program on his philosophy and it worked…..but its had alot of bricks taken out of it the last 2.5 years. Time to tweak it. What comes along with that I don’t know I’m not a coach……but the present isn’t working. Time to change it up.

JB

November 4th, 2009
10:06 am

Richt needs to be the face of the program, not the coach. The CEO. He needs to hire some pro’s to run both sides of the ball. This Georgia team has looked lost the last two years. He needs 4 to 5 new coach’s. Proven people. Not the DB coach from Wayne State to coach the D. Pay somebody with a track record and a name ONE MILLION to come run the defense. This will be the biggest off season in Athens in his Tenure. We all laughed at this guy in Knoxville being in the paper everyday making noise.
Tennessee is playing some ball………Same players……………different coach’s and mind set. If I hear ” we’re gonna work harder”.I’ll puke. It’s time for action. We can do better than 6-6 with Donnan.

Homer

November 4th, 2009
10:09 am

And what are Arizona State and Okie State now currently ranked? Doesn’t look so tough in hindsight.

Arizona State is 3-4 with a cupcake schedule, and OSU is about to be unranked.

senoiadawgs

November 4th, 2009
10:09 am

To those who say we have the best record over the last blah many years, rankings, whatever and that is why you support coach Richt. I will keep it simple for you.

You tell your boss, employees, fans, etc… that you are going to do something(Now imgaine you are getting paid 2+Million). Here are somethings that we have heard over the last couple of years that those of us with two eyes open have been asking and hearing that coach Richt WOULD FIX. All have been said at some point that they would be fixed prior to opening the 2009 season.

What happened to the junkyard dog D? Please don’t include 07 we played D for like 4 or 5 games that season. Willie is still employed
What happened to opening the playbook? It’s still half shut Maybe Bobo becomes a genius someday however he has no clue how to get the ball in the hands of playmakers in space, Ealey, Gray, Brown, Green, Wooten, T King, C King, Samuel, Moore, Charles, etc… Do you see how many options we have?
What happened to team discipline? The new Miami in Athens
What happened to cutting down on penalties? 119th out of 120
What happened to being a better turnover causing D? It’s hard to intercept a pass when the DB’s never look for the ball. Another blatant fault of Willie’s philosophy.
LSU, TN, MS State, etc… figured out how to slow down UF why couldn’t we? It was simple they didn’t let Tebow breathe in the pocket. While they didn’t win they didn’t let the pass beat them. That’s right Willie only believe in sending 4 or 5. Of course I don’t blame him almost Miller, Evans and Jones don’t have a clue but that is also his fault for not putting the better players in.
What happened to kicking the ball deep on kickoffs? You were going to go across the world to find someone when all along you had someone already kicking for you. Nice wasted scholarship there. Fabris is still employed.
The best players will play? UMMMM note, if Cox, Miller, Evans and Jones are the best we’ve got we have a huge problem. Just because a guy is a JR or SR doesn’t mean he is the best. This is 2009 not 1979 the game has changed in case you haven’t gotten the memo. Problem is we say Gray and Murray play in the spring. We have seen Smith all over receivers and out running the world. We have seen Rambo make big plays. Are those plays deleted from game tapes for the coaches.
What happened to tailback U? Let’s see in the last couple of years our coaches have redshirted a superstar because he couldn’t block. Now we find a RB in 09 and he can’t start anymore because he can’t block. Thank you for telling Auburn, GT, TNTech, and UK that when Ealey is in the game there will be no deep passes and 90% + of the plays will be running plays. In case you forgot the position is called RUNNING BACK not BLOCKING BACK.
As Barnhart said above, what happened to conditioning? We have clearly been gassed at the end of games this year.
What happened to pride in playing for UGA? We lost more at home now than on the road. Also it says a lot that we have so many people leaving early. In the last couple of years we have even had guys leave early who were not even first rounders.

To Jeff S, MB, Tucker and anyone who covers UGA. Why in the crap don’t you all press him when he is open to the media. I know there is courtesy and access issues involved but you all give him a complete pass when he is open to the media. I never hear anyone in the media press him about issues that are so blatant to the bulldog nation.

Dawg Fud

November 4th, 2009
10:12 am

Tony,

Point #4 is crap! Sack up and play somebody. I agree with Evans.

Say what you want about Florida’s schedule but when you have won national titles in ‘96 and ‘06 and ‘08 you don’t have to “spread your brand” with big time opponents because you have done that already with 3 national title appearances and crystal trophies.

I am so sick of hearing people complain about Florida’s schedule. Take care of your own house first!

JB

November 4th, 2009
10:13 am

Other than Willie, our biggest problem this year is we don’t have a bonafide SEC QB for the first time in awhile. We have lot’s of problems, but the two are HUGE.

OldDawg72

November 4th, 2009
10:14 am

Good points Tony. However, there are whispers and rumors that disturb me. The whispers are that the money in the athletic program (which is mainly produced by the football program) is being looted and sucked into the academic part of UGA. If CMR even mentions this autrocity, he is gone. Also, because of this looting, Martinez is all CMR can afford. How about some real investigative reporting to see if the rumors and whispers are true.

Whopper Dawg

November 4th, 2009
10:15 am

In reponse,

1. My first reaction is to say recruiting is fine. But then I think that right now we don’t have a SEC caliber QB on the roster that is not redshirting and our RBs are weak. I think we have a mix problem, no QB now, an all freshman Oline last year, recruiting seven DBs this year – doesn’t make sense,
looking like no planning by position.

2. Obviously not. Before we get to coaching to potential, you have to coach the fundamentals. There is no discipline and that is the head coach. At LEAST both coordinators need to go. We are becoming a national joke. Stafford and Moreno hid a lot of sin in the program. Next year will be worse without coaching change.

3. I don’t think so, but that is a little hard to evaluate. But we do not look to be in the same shape as the top tier programs. If there is not discipline on the field and the side line, there will not be discipline in the conditioning program.

4. Maybe so. Bama, LSU and FLA sure don’t play this type of schedule. It is not good to spread the UGA brand when the brand is getting its eyes beaten out.

5. I don’t think his personality has anything to do with it. But if you make mistakes, eventually you have to pay for them and Richt has made two big ones in Martinez and Bobo. If they are not corrected, it will get him. They are both substandard, and it is not debatable.

ugablows

November 4th, 2009
10:15 am

everyone always points to Richts earlier success, but have you ever considered that maybe he was NEVER really a great coach? he was just leaching off a great D-coordinator and Donnan’s great recruits?

senoiadawgs

November 4th, 2009
10:15 am

Amen Dawg Fud, we play in the SEC. We get to see great football. To all of those who donate so much to UGA is it to much to ask have good home games outside of the SEC? I say a schedule like this year’s is great. One cupcake a year. We already have Vandy and UK that should be beaten every year in addition to the cupcake game.

Win some national titles be the team that is talked about in the same breath as AL, FL, USC, TX, OK, OSU, etc… then you can schedule however you want to. Right now having an excellent season will only win over the voters if we have a tough schedule.

help, I live in Ga

November 4th, 2009
10:16 am

But he’s such a nice guy and never does anything to ruffle feathers. And everything he says is “coach speak” and did I mention he’s such a nice guy.
Go Vols

GOB

November 4th, 2009
10:16 am

UGA dropped the ball on Dwyer for sure. Having that kind of every down back would have taken so much pressure off of Cox. His official visit to UGA didn’t go too hot (same weekend as King’s visit), and there was apparently some tension between Dwyer’s family and King’s, with King getting a little better treatment from the staff.

I think that’s one they’d like to have back. He could have redshirted his freshman year behind Knowshown, split carries last year, and been then guy this year.

Gatorzip74

November 4th, 2009
10:17 am

Go Gators! I love Coach Richt and hopes he stays forever, kinda reminds me of old Ray Goof.
Gator Fans Great article by Mike Bianchi: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-sportsbianchi-column-spikes-04110409nov04,0,7520710.column

Liz boy

November 4th, 2009
10:17 am

Yea good point. I just do not think that Georgia has a clue what it is trying to do. But they sure do throw the ball too much. What up with that? And how about those running backs that they have—-have you noticed that they turn sideways when they are about to make contact with a tackler? Ugly man—–either run like a running back or go home and study or go back to the hood, we dont care which either. Get on with it or just dont show up. What is the point. This is football not dice. ——later—gator(food).

Matthews Dawg

November 4th, 2009
10:17 am

We have to get Bigger, Stronger and Faster!! Strength and Conditioning will fix things. I believe a new DC won’t hurt either. Otto Strahl, I think you are sadly mistaken. A few bad games last year and this year speaks for itself, bad. CMR has EARNED the right to fix things and that is this year and next year. Then if things are still going poorly, then evaluate him. Damon Evans wants to keep his job, so he will make sure that things don’t stay the same. We have to get Bigger, Stronger, Faster to compete. The strength/conditioning coach has to be evaluated! Dave Van Halenger, Rex Bradbury, Joe T’s daddy, Clay Walker and Keith Gray are the others that need evaluating. What they are doing in the weight room, etc… is NOT getting the job done on Sat’s!! Fix this and the DC with young upcoming coaches and all of this goes away. CMR is the best fit for UGA. I would be proud of my son to play for such a man! Great coach/Great man!! CMR will have to do the job or he will have to possibly look elsewhere! That is only if we struggle again next year. UGA has good football tradition, NOT GREAT! We are a football school and win a lot, but we don’t have the history that Alabama, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, (I hate to say it) UF. Which there history is only a couple of decades old. To have the tradition like the elites, you have to win multiple NC’s and we have NOT done that under ANY head coach. It may happen and I want it to happen. I believe that CMR can make it happen. But, he does have to change a few things in the program! I believe in CMR!! Go Dawgs

Gators for Richt

November 4th, 2009
10:21 am

All true Gators hope the Bulldogs keep their current coaches. They are good Christian men.

TommyP

November 4th, 2009
10:21 am

Recruiting is NOT the problem. If you feel that it is the problem, then the Floridas and Bamas and Tennessees of the world are missing on the talent too because we’re competing for the same talent. Just go to the offer list of each player and you’ll see the other big schools offering the same players.

Coaching is the problem. It’s THAT simple.

m

November 4th, 2009
10:22 am

I had a great time at the Pride festival. Tickle piles galore!!! Yummers:-)

reservoirDAWG

November 4th, 2009
10:22 am

Great article TB. The problem lies in attitude and WM.

Mike

November 4th, 2009
10:23 am

All you Tech deadbeats need to realize that you are to UGA what UGA is to FL… you win once every 8 years. Now STFU and go back to designing a better mouse trap.

Wildcat in Chicago

November 4th, 2009
10:23 am

Tony –

Read your blog every day, and generally agree with your points most of the time, but cannot agree with your basic premise on the schedule. When the accomplishments of teams like Boise (which has gone and will go on the road for OOC games because most automatic qualifying conference schools decline the opportunity to play in their blue-turfed snake pit) and Cincinnati (which does play in an AQ conference and goes on the road to other AQ schools) are looked down upon because of their schedules, and are often hit with the criticism that they play “horrible schedules” when, in fact, they would agree to home-and-homes or 2-for-1s if they could get them, here you are arguing that Georgia should follow the lead of the Floridas and Alabamas and pad their schedules with scrimmages.

On the contrary, an intersectional OOC schedule could be a net positive in recruiting for Georgia and Tennessee, to name two, given the brand that the SEC is building around the country with its new TV contracts. (LSU, for one, has scheduled VaTech, Arizona, Arizona St. and Washington on the road in recent years.) Many college basketball teams — Duke, for one — schedule games every year in parts of the country that have been historically fertile recruiting areas, such as New York City and Chicago, precisely to lure recruits from those areas with the promise that they will get to play games where their families can see them without traveling across country. This strategy, in part, is also behind the “barnstorming” that Notre Dame is building into its scheduling for the future, and also why ND finishes every year with a road game in either LA (USC) or San Francisco (Stanford).

This does not mean scheduling USC, Oklahoma, Texas or Ohio State every year (witness Texas playing Wyoming in Cheyenne), but in a conference where the status quo won’t distinguish Georgia from its peers, an intersectional OOC schedule component that includes road games could make a difference in elevating Georgia’s profile.

Bud

November 4th, 2009
10:25 am

Football ain’t rocket science, block, tackle, & run.

Bud

November 4th, 2009
10:26 am

whoever blocks, tackles, & runs the best wins.

Kirby Smart

November 4th, 2009
10:27 am

I’d rather drink turpentine & pi$$ on a brush fire than go back to that hell hole known as Athens. Last time I worked there, “Saint” Richt had me coaching running backs. I was GONE after 1 year. I love Coach Saban and will never leave him. I’m a BAMA boy now baby! F the dawwwwwwwwwgs

Todd

November 4th, 2009
10:29 am

TB, the schedule has nothing to do with a sloppy football team. Recruiting has nothing to do with a sloppy football team. Head coaches personality has nothing to do with a sloppy football team…….
I’ve seen enough out of Ga football now over the last 20 yrs. We all know the committment level of Florida, Alabama (now), Tenn (now).
It’s apparanent at the UGA, they don’t mean business when it comes to competing at the highest level.
Does anyone think Damon Evans compared to Jeremy Foley at Florida is comparable?
Damon Evans is a tool box, he’s a sharp, young guy who understands the finances of the Ath. Assoc. that’s it. The athletic board and a handful of top boosters call the shots and they “can’t hang” with Florida, Ala, and now Tenn.

I’m telling you right now, this thing is headed back to the 90’s where Ga was a permanent 3 in the SEC EAst.

I’m amazed at the way Richt recruited this past yr. This yr. it will slip, we will have casualties from the current committment list.

The Kitty up in Knuckersville represents the final straw for Mark Richt. He will run an evangelical non-profit in 2 more yrs.

G8R GRAD

November 4th, 2009
10:29 am

This kid’s a class act.

As seen yesterday at Rivals.com:

“A most unlikely person came to the defense of Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes, who was suspended for half a game for apparently trying to gouge the eyes of Georgia running back Washaun Ealey

Ealey said Tuesday he doesn’t believe Spikes should have been suspended.

In fact, Ealey seemed surprised the play from Saturday’s game drew so much attention.

Florida coach Urban Meyer on Monday suspended Spikes for the first half of this week’s game against Vanderbilt after the defensive captain stuck his hand in Ealey’s helmet and appeared to try to stick his fingers in Ealey’s eyes.

Ealey says he doesn’t agree with those who have said the suspension was not stiff enough

That really didn’t matter to me,” Ealey said of the suspension. “That’s their decision. He shouldn’t, I think, get suspended at all. We were just out there playing football.”

Ealey said he had his eyes closed when Spikes stuck his hand in his helmet and he wasn’t hurt.

“He really didn’t gouge my eyes,” Ealey said. “He really didn’t get a chance to get close to my eyes.”

The freshman said he believes similar incidents happen all the time.

“I’m pretty sure it goes on back and forth,” he said. “We probably do it and other teams do too. It’s all football. We’re just out there trying to have fun.”

Numbers

November 4th, 2009
10:30 am

Hey Mike, sure Tech won once in the last 8 years, or twice in the last 9, or three times in the past 10, or four times in the past 11. Sure, it’s still a losing percentage, but the point is that your number games means absolutely crap! Talk about something relevant!

Oh, and by the way, Jan Kemp proved that uga’s sole championship wasn’t earned! (But she still did more for these students than anyone else in the history of the game).

Grandad

November 4th, 2009
10:30 am

John Wooden was mild mannered, he could also coach a little.

jbroswell

November 4th, 2009
10:32 am

amen…funny how everyone loved Richt’s demeanor when we were winning…kind of like Tom Osborne…why does everyone have 8 home games and we only have 6..

matt

November 4th, 2009
10:33 am

It would seem to me when a player is being offered by several big time schools that obviously the recruiting coordinators at these big time schools ALL think that this player is legit. If UGA was going off and recruiting a ton of kids that could either go to Samford or Athens then I would raise an eyebrow.

If I have 20 D-1 scholarship offers 10 of them are from major players such as Fl. Bama, Tenn, Texas, Ohio St. Notre Dame, Ok, and I choose UGA and I don’t pan out then I could be considered a player who just didn’t work out. However, if this seems to happen quite often over several recruiting classes with multiple players…seems to me the answer to question 2 is “no”.

SimpleDawg

November 4th, 2009
10:33 am

I’m beginning to think that our talent level isn’t what it needs to be in order to compete in the SEC, and on a National level.

I also think that the coaching staff has become stale and needs to be revamped.

Mark Richt needs to immulate Kevin Costner’s Wyatt Earp when he burst into the saloon, fired off both barrels of a shotgun and said, “….it all stops now !”

The bar has been raised.

This ain’t a limbo contest…it’s a high jump.

Somebody had better start jumping higher !

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dbc

November 4th, 2009
10:34 am

Didn’t we talk about all this same stuff after the Tech loss last year?

roan st

November 4th, 2009
10:35 am

Good article. Point #5 is the key. I’m not ready to run Mark Richt out of town like some over zealous UGA fans. But he must make changes to his coaching staff and instill some discipline in his players. If he decides to keep his current staff and continues to pay lip service to working on penalties and fixing things then he will just hang himself. Willie Martinez and some of the defensive staff must go. No more excuses for this guy because under Van Gorder we had one of the best defenses in college football and that is the main reason UGA was a top the SEC. I would be willing to give Bobo one more season to prove that he can get the job done. But Richt must make major changes in the offseason because minor cosmetic changes are going to spell his doom. Getting rid of Willie is a great place to start. If he doesn’t get rid of Willie after the season I will then solidly be in the fire mark richt camp. But at the moment Im in wait and see what happens mode.

matt

November 4th, 2009
10:35 am

Not to mention that if your arguing that the recruits UGA is getting aren’t as good as advertised you are saying that not only do the other recruiting coordinators not know how to evaluate talent but also that 2 nationally recognized recruiting services (Scout and Rivals) also don’t know how to evaluate talent.

G8R GRAD

November 4th, 2009
10:37 am

Gatorzip74:

Good article.
I spent the entire day yesterday agreeing that Spikes was wrong and should be punished, but the sanctimonious, self-righteous hipocrits calling for his suspension for the year (or the electric chair!) needed to take a good look in the mirror.

toga

November 4th, 2009
10:38 am

#6 Do you really think it is a good idea to have your wife on the sidelines serving water? Why not have grandma and grandpa on the sidelines holding your charts. What a joke! Can you imagine any of the top coaches having their wife on the sideline.

I know the Jeopardy Answer!!!

November 4th, 2009
10:39 am

In the early 1980’s…I wasn’t born yet but I am a successful businessman today with an MBA…so that was a LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG time ago.

But based on several threads on the AJC I am guessing this is when UGA bought Walker the trans-am and gave his mom a new house?

What do I win???

Mutt Nonsense

November 4th, 2009
10:39 am

Interesting how Richt’s run of success just so happend to coincide with the Zook, Shula, and Bad Phil regimes. How is that he was a great coach when the SEC was down in key spots, but all of the sudden isn’t so great when other programs are at the level they should be? Wait actually, that’s not that tough of a question.

Michael Adams

November 4th, 2009
10:40 am

Hey Gators for Richt I know you hope we keep all our coaches but guess what we wont.

BG

November 4th, 2009
10:41 am

Mark Richt owns Georgia Tech! Look at his record aganist tech. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Cuz

November 4th, 2009
10:42 am

At the end of the year, Willie will get a nice severence package of about half a million. Damon will then announce a nationwide search by a private paid search committee for about half a million. At the end of a month they will have gotten shot down by Smart, Mushchamp, Strong, Chavis, Venables(Oklahoma) and Bumpas(TCU). Damon then will have a press conference with Mark Richt to announce that the best choice is Rodney Garner for DC and announce a pay raise of half a million for him. To be fair, they will give half a million in salary increase to Mike Bobo. So at the end of the process, UGA will be out two million dollars and have Rodney as the DC.

Don’t believe me, just wait.

DawgGirl32

November 4th, 2009
10:42 am

All great points, Tony.

Scheduling is kind of like “the chicken before the egg” scenario. I read a Gator comment up there saying that they didn’t need to spread their brand because they’ve already won NCs. Well, maybe a soft schedule helped them do that. If UGA has a soft schedule but has a very successful year, wouldn’t that work just as well to “spread our brand?”

Recruiting goes both ways. Richt may have dropped the ball on Dwyer but he definitely didn’t on Knowshon or Stafford or Rennie Curran or AJ Green. Maybe Dwyer has especially flourished under Johnson because he plays in a…..running offense. The truth is, we’ll really never know how well he would’ve done at UGA because they are indeed two very different offenses. I do wonder, though, what it would be like to have more underrated David Pollacks and less overrate Reshad Joneses.

The off-season conditioning theory is interesting. You mentioned Florida as having one of the hardest off season conditionings at date. I seem to remember many, many UGA players including a lot of seniors who said that this year’s off season conditioning was the hardest they had ever faced at UGA.

I think #2 and #5 might be your most valid points, Tony. I am very hopeful that Mark Richt will take a long look in the mirror and do what needs to be done. I really don’t want anyone else as UGA’s head coach.

Bud

November 4th, 2009
10:43 am

Toga I really do not believe his wife being on the sideline is the problem. Do you? Remind me again. What has Bama won the last 10 years?

Mutt Nonsense

November 4th, 2009
10:43 am

G8R GRAD,

Good post.

I like this Ealey kid more and more. He’s a great player who’s going to abuse teams as he gets better and learns how to use his immense talent.

Also, I love that for all the hunker down, junkyard dawg nonsense, he’s the only person associated with UGA that didn’t want to crucify Spikes and HE WAS DIRECTLY INVOLVED. Take a lesson from your own team Mutt fans. You’re whiners looking for any reason to bring people better than you down. Ealey on the other hand understands what he needs to do. Just respond and WIN on the field. No room for all this crying.

Tom S

November 4th, 2009
10:45 am

Tony –

I’d say Tech has three backs (not just Dwyer) better than anything that UGa has: Dwyer + Allen and Jones. Richt’s eye for RB’s is worse than you suggest.

But why all the handwringing about Georgia? We get it — they are mediocre this year. It’s not like it’s shocking with what they lost to the draft.

Let’s hear more about maybe the best coach in football. What Johnson has done is truly amazing. He will be the reaon that Richt’s rein in Athens ends shortly. The Georgia folks don’t seem to mind too much getting eaten alive by UF for two decades, but I’ll bet that three losses in a row to Tech and Richt will be gone. Mark that down — he’ll be out at the end of next year.

Dooley's Cardiologist

November 4th, 2009
10:45 am

WTH,

That is the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard!!! haha…wow..

PTC DAWG

November 4th, 2009
10:45 am

You would think that the GT fans would be more concerned with their VERY good team this year, but it seems that nothing has changed. We’ll talk after the UGA/GT game, should be interesting.

coach smith

November 4th, 2009
10:45 am

Anyone who wants the Dawgs to give up, and have no faith that they can turn it around this season and beyond

LEAVE!!! Go be a fan of Tech (I hear they always have seats available)!
Most of you spewing this sort of crap are not UGA fans anyway or you are front runners who jumped on when the Dawgs were riding high

I say again if that is your attitude, THE DAWGS DON’T NEED FANS LIKE YOU
There are waiting lists of fans trying to get seats at Sanford Stadium, the Dawgs are on National TV pretty much every game, there are 10 true fans waiting to take the place of front running knee-jerk morons like the ones of you spewing this……

SO GO and don’t come back when the Red and Black gets that big machine running back down the track!

SOUTHGADAWG88

November 4th, 2009
10:47 am

Good article Tony.I am a firm believer that talent wins out in the long run of a program.When you talk recruiting most UGA fans spout out two things..1.UGA has all these 5 star players so talent is not a problem.2.UGA is always ranked in the top 10 in recruiting so talent is not a problem.No 1 is not true flat out and no 2 is misleading.UGA has signed 9 5 star players under Richt.FLA had 22,LSU 19 TENN 17 ALA 11 with 8 in last 3 years.Those are the facts…fans tend to overhype our success on the recruiting trail…truth is we have lagged behind the other top programs in the SEC in this regard.5 stars are not the end all in recruiting sure but the difference between a 5 and a 4 can be huge.Tebow/Cox Berry/Evans Spikes/Gamble AJ Green/Troupe etc.The second one is true but misleading…yes we have finished in the top 10 alot…but what people conveniently overlook is the fact that we still lag behind other top programs in the SEC in this regard as well.Let’s go back to 07.UGA 9th with 0 5*.FLA 1st with 4 5 *.LSU 4thwith 2 5*.TENN 3rd with 5 5 *.ALA10th with o 5*.08 ALA 1st 3 5’s.LSU 2nd 2 5’s.FLA 3rd 4 5’s.UGA 9th 2 5’s.Tenn no 35th 0 5’s.09 ALA no1st 4 5’s.LSU 2nd 4 5’s.UGA 6th 1 5.TENN 10th 2 5’s.FLA 11TH 3 5′S.Just for fun the 10 numbers right now are LSU 3RD ALA 5TH,TENN 6TH,FLA 7TH and UGA 8TH.When you look at the actual rankings it may surprise a lot of folks that as good as we have been we are around 4th best in the SEC in recruiting never having a top ranked class.Our talent is superb compared to an ACC team but SEC we are only OK. We could use some fresh ideas and angles for sure at the CO positions I agree but I think talent is a bigger issue than most will admit.As for the scheduling I will say this UGA is a unique program..most teams have 3 rivals…we have 5.ALA-AUB,LSU,TENN LSU-ALA,Ole MISS,?FLA-UGA,TENN,FSU.TENN-UGA,FLA,ALA.UGA-FLA,AUB,GT,TENN and SC.We have a tough enough schedule as it is…it’s ok when AUB,TENN and GT are down but when the rise back up as they all will the schedule is brutal.Throw in the fact that LSU and ALA will rotate in there occasion and it get’s asinine.We have to regroup and reload because the path is not getting any easier but Richt is a great one in the making and I don’t think the “fans” appreciate just what we have

mikie g.

November 4th, 2009
10:47 am

Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh.

DAWGS havebeen neutered

November 4th, 2009
10:47 am

The best part about that Florida game last week–was watching SUPERMAN break Walker’s record against a terrible UGA defense! UGA is overated every year!!! I had rather play them than Georgia Tech! Atleast Tech is well coached! Well time to go win another National Championship boys! Had fun last weekend–as always —-GATOR MIKE

Nutt

November 4th, 2009
10:49 am

I love the Vols fans talking about how great Kiffin is. What has he done other than beat a bad UGA team and play Florida and Alabama close?

calvin

November 4th, 2009
10:49 am

BG wrote:
> Mark Richt owns Georgia Tech! Look at his record aganist tech.
> HAHAHAHAHAHA

Two of those games were given to Georgia by Reggie Ball.
In any case, Richt’s streak against Tech ended last year,
and ‘ownership’ went with it.

DP

November 4th, 2009
10:49 am

On the recruiting issue, the Birmingham News has an article of interest. They use the average of national recruiting rankings for the 5 years from 2005-09 and compare them to how the teams are doing to see who looks to be overachieving and who is underachieving. Georgia’s recruiting classes averaged #4 nationally over a 5 year period. While recruiting is an inexact science and some highly rated players don’t pan out, if you’re consistently recruiting at that level there’s no way you don’t have a lot of talent on your roster. Here is the link and some snips from the article:

http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-sports/2009/11/based_on_recruiting_usc_uga_ar.html

We’ve taken the annual recruiting rankings on Rivals.com from 2005 to 2009, averaged them for each team, and come up with our own recruiting rankings.

The underachievers —

Start with USC. The Trojans won two recruiting national ti­tles, finished in the recruiting top 10 all five years and signed more five-star prospects (21) than Alabama and LSU com­bined. Yet losses to Washington and Oregon knocked Pete Car­roll’s Trojans out of the national hunt.

USC certainly isn’t alone. Georgia is trying to stay at .500 despite the fourth-best crop over the same period. And Flor­ida State’s success on the re­cruiting trail hasn’t translated on the playing field, where Bobby Bowden may be headed for a forced retirement.

Other national surprises —
Stanford (No. 45 in recruiting but in the thick of the Pac-10 race), Georgia Tech (No. 51 class but in the AP Top 10) and Houston (No. 84 but ranked eighth this week).

Voice of Reason

November 4th, 2009
10:50 am

Tony said: “And you know what happened in the early 80s.”

Yes Tony…we remember.

Her name was: Jan Kemp.

toga

November 4th, 2009
10:51 am

Bud-

Could you work with your wife sitting next to you all day?

Alabama has 12 National Titles and holds a winning record against every SEC school.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Roll Tide.

Einsteindawg

November 4th, 2009
10:51 am

Sometime during the past 18 months, CMR has contracted the dreaded “Bobby Cox Syndrone”. A rare ailment causing unfounded loyalty and stubborness and clouding one’s judgement. If left untreated, the infected person will incur the rath and criticism of loyal fans, develop a complacent (ie: lazy) attitude, and have excessive weight gain, especially around the middle. Other side-effects may be the frequent use of nicknames and a fondness for peanuts. There are several cures; however, the one that works best is separating yourself from an inbred system of coaches and surrounding yourself with innovative people.

G Man

November 4th, 2009
10:54 am

Tony – I like the Bear analogy. I remember those days and later, Bryant talking about them. He tells of the time some Bama fans spit on him during one of those tough seasons – imagine that – a Bama fan spitting on the Bear! He said he realized then how fleeting glory in sports really is. I also like the story about Dooley. Needless to day, it’s in the tough times that a coach really distinuishes himself. Can Richt come out of it? We’ll see, but he will have to make some tough decisions that will involve change, or Georgia may continue downhill. Speaking as Tech fan, that’s one reason we like Johnson so much – he’s never satisfied, never really happy and appears to be keeping that edge Schultzie talks about that is needed for a football team. Go Jackets!

god and greyhound

November 4th, 2009
10:54 am

“you North Avenue Nerds will NEVER have a run of seven and you Geeks need to be thankful for beating UGA once or twice in a decade!!!”

Never? Tech already had a run of EIGHT under Bobby Dodd. uog has NEVER had a run like that, and they never will!!

45-42. Enjoy Shreveport!

Gatorzip74

November 4th, 2009
10:56 am

Nutt-
Even I, as a smart-ass Gator fan, can see that Kiffin has his program going in the right direction.

MiltonDawg

November 4th, 2009
10:56 am

Tony, you should run this article again when the Dawgs play their last game (hopefully a bowl game, at this point, i don’t care which one) and forward a copy to Richt. I’ll beleive all of this about “change” when it actually happens.

dan

November 4th, 2009
10:57 am

Good article today Tony.

I feel all of you points are very valid. I think another question that needs to be asked, which kind of dovetails off the evaluating talent part, is whether or not Richt is really great at building a program. Nic Saban to me is great at building a program. He came into a situation at LSU where they were 3-8 in 1999. Saban for the next two years won with guys that were already there, as well as recruiting guys that were his type of players.This means that Saban recruited guys that were hardnosed, physical, and who can take being yelled at. Saban also won’t go after guys that will overshadow him . Saban would never recruit a Sam Bradford or a Tim Tebow , because he wants a QB that’s a system guy and who won’t steal the glory away from him as a coach. But he would recruit top stud players on his defense( Marcus Spears and Corey Webster). It’s a total egomaniac way to be, but it works for Saban.

Saban won an SEC title in 2001 with guys from the previous Gerry Dinardo regime, but his National Championship team in 2003 were comproprised of guys that HE recruited and that HE developed. And if you look at Alabama now, Saban’s using the same blueprint. He won last year with guys from Shula’s staff who bought into his system, and now he’s winning with guys that he recruited.

This is what I think Richt lacks. He doesn’t really seem to have a blueprint for how he wants his program to look. Places like LSU, Alabama, and Florida can reload year in and year out because they have a blueprint for how they wan’t their program to look.

Mike S

November 4th, 2009
10:58 am

Excellent Analysis Tommy. Richt has this off-season to address the issues with the coaching staff and discipline of the players.

If he makes the required changes and adjustments, I see a long successful tenure ahead. if he doesn’t then next year will most likely be his last.

PHAT PHIL did not adjust at UT and he is gone, ‘Bear’ adjusted in 1970 and the rest is history. Which path will CMR choose?

Shananeeeee Fananeeeee

November 4th, 2009
10:58 am

Is it justified Mr. Richt looking at your record so far you should be receiving that salary of yours, about $250,000 a game? Are you going to go to the SEC Title Game to take notes? When a player gets arrested who bails them out of jail? You promised at the beginning of the season that you were going to make sure penalties were cut down this year but why have they not? Have you been to Gainesville to see the Gators 2 BCS Title Trophys?

chiefdawg

November 4th, 2009
10:58 am

I believe that UGA is falling down when it comes to evaluating talent. My HS has played a team with a UGA early recruit on it and he is soft. Our little ole offensive lineman absolutely destroyed him. Your example of King v Dwyer is very good. I also believe other teams are outworking UGA.I know of a player that GT comes to see almost every week. UGA is interested in him, but they don’t stay in contact. You also have the player in Hall county who has committed to AL. He was a big UGA fan, attened all their camps and his family loved Richt. UGA waited to late.

juvenal

November 4th, 2009
11:00 am

now that they are off our blogs, can’t we just ignore theirs?

Alphare

November 4th, 2009
11:01 am

I see 1 things very wrong with Georgia: the players cannot tackle/cover. This is big thing.

If you cannot tackle, your opponents can run and move the ball. They will have more ball possession time. One consequence is your defense will be worn out and tired, and your opponents will take advantage and score. Another consequence is your own team don’t have enough offensive opportunity.

If you cannot cover, your opponents can make big plays. Van Gorder era (1 game with 30points given up) compared to Martinez era (15games of 30points given up) is a good testimony to Georgia’s failure in this area.

Rduck

November 4th, 2009
11:01 am

Yet another blog from the UGA VIII wannabe. In this season, with so many promising programs duking it out for their rightful place atop college football, you still have to post another episode of “Desperate Housewhines”. Please take the rest of the season off and watch some other teams-relevant teams- and come back next year with your head out of the Athens clouds. Pathetic!!

THEdawg

November 4th, 2009
11:02 am

The Mark Richt of 2009 is not the Mark Richt of 2001-2005. He has become a soft, players coach and not a demanding head coach. Early on he told Quincy Carter you will have to compete. Now any upperclassman can pretty much be assured that as long as he doesn’t suffer an injury – seniority status will assure more than earned playing time. He will continue to rely on tired old excuses, he will not change his coaches, he will not change his football philosophy and in 2011 he will be gone – involuntarily.

gator dawgpounder

November 4th, 2009
11:03 am

Tony, dont’t you think the problem really surfaced last year with 3 players picked in the top 40 in the NFL draft? This year was expected to be down and the only real problem I saw this year is he didn’t plan for life after Stafford as UF has with Johnny Brantley.

Kerryb

November 4th, 2009
11:03 am

Florida fans enjoy it while it lasts. Just like Tommy Tuberville said, the difference in Georgia and Florida is that your big Seniors returned and ours did’nt. That is the only difference. He also said your transition starts next year lets see how you do. I don’t think it’s going to be any better than Georgia’s this year. My prediction is that you lose 4-5 games next year and finish 3rd in the East.

Porty

November 4th, 2009
11:04 am

Tony, please stop with the schedule thing. This is the second year in God knows how long that your schedule minus your SEC (Ky, Vandy, USC, Tenn, Miss St, Ole Miss, Aub…shivering yet) and GT hasn’t been littered with Directional U softies. And this one has been exposed anyway. Ok St dropped like a rock out of the Top 10, Az St is like a downey chick. That brand you speak of has been noticed. A team that is close to leading the nation in penalties, lacks leadership and has a delusional fanbase that is known for being one of the worst behaved. Is that the brand you want? And RealSugarHillDog, don’t worry. Georgia will never rip of a streak of 8…..like Tech did

icedawg

November 4th, 2009
11:04 am

Spot on Tony. Even the legends have had down years, but what made them legends is that they got up off of the mat and did something about it and turned it around. I believe that Richt can turn it around.

SEC Dawg

November 4th, 2009
11:04 am

You have stirred the pot well today Tony!! Good job, “a house divided, can’t stand”! That is all you writers want to do! Not that some of the issues that face UGA are not justified, they are. But, this daily thing of “beating the dead horse”! How many times can it be said that UGA/CMR has decisions to make. He needs to make them and hopefully you can go back to writing things about Tech or Ga. State. How about something positive out of Athens? I know some of you will say that we aren’t winning, so there is nothing positive. There is plenty positive going on there. Be an true journalist and report the good along with the bad. Not just one sided all the time. All the blogs are the same and the same one’s on every article spew the same message. We ALL get it, things have to be corrected in Athens. CMR knows that too.

2N4YEARS

November 4th, 2009
11:05 am

I once in a while agree w/ you Tony. This is one of those times, although I find it humorous that it takes you ‘football experts’ to finally face what some of us have seen coming for 2-3 years.

dan

November 4th, 2009
11:07 am

I think the point that Tony just made is that it isn’t just about getting 5 star talent. If they don’t fit into your system then it doesn’t matter! That’s what separates a guy like Richt from Jimmy Johnson. Johnson was/is a huge egomaniac and players don’t like playing for him because he played favorites and only cared about winning. But Jimmy knew how to assess talent( even though in all due respect Tony, Jimmy was a little overhyped in this area. If Jimmy had his way, he would have drafted Steve Walsh over Troy Aikman, and eventually cut Michael Irvin for being too slow. Norv Turner doesn’t get enough credit for developing those guys and turning them into Hall of Famers as their OC).

Fire Willie Now

November 4th, 2009
11:08 am

On the recruiting angle I can’t see how UGA is ranked 4th overall over the last 5 years when we haven’t been in the top 4 since 06 I believe and 3rd is the highest UGA has ever been ranked.

TidePrideGA

November 4th, 2009
11:08 am

Richt simply isn’t that good at evaluating talent imo and its not like he’s going to become better at it overnight. However he could surround himself with assistants who are good at it. Right now with the exception of Rodney Garner and I have my doubts about him, this coaching staff is below average at evaluating and coaching up talent.

westerndawg

November 4th, 2009
11:08 am

Uh, did you think maybe King is “average” and Dwyer is one of the best is because of how they were COACHED after getting to college? Maybe it’s the coaching and not the recruiting.

I can’t believe the conclusions that you think are logical….

Lou Vales

November 4th, 2009
11:10 am

Richt would be a great neighbor. Don’t know why I said that but once again it means a lot to Georgia fans.

Don’t know what kind of neighbors Meyer, Saban and Miles would make, but I’m willing to bet not as good as Richt.

elmo lewis

November 4th, 2009
11:11 am

Bear Bryant faced such a crossroads in 1969 and 1970 when he had back-to-back teams that only won six games. People started saying Bryant was too old and that the game had passed him by. After the 1970 season Bryant told his staff that Alabama was switching to the wishbone offense and that everybody had to get with the program or get out of town. Starting in 1971 Alabama went on an 11-year run where the Crimson Tide won 116 games, nine SEC championships and three national championships

Tony, are you plagarizing your book – that sounds a lot like “Southern Fried Football” to me!

Good points, though.

BIGBOY

November 4th, 2009
11:12 am

Cuz I think you are right…I’m not sure how it’s gonna play out but I just can’t see Richt not promoting Garner to DC..the guy has been at UGA longer than Richt and he doesn’t get the job I say he is gone.

elmo lewis

November 4th, 2009
11:13 am

Georgia let a fine player (Alphonzo Dennard) get away to Nebraska and he’s played extensively as both a freshman and a sophomore. He’s got to be as good a DB as Miller or Evans.

another dawg in ptc

November 4th, 2009
11:13 am

Tony,
I don’t think the example of King and Dwyer is appropriate. The best I can remember is that King committed to UGA before he broke his leg. Give Mark Richt credit for standing by him. It worked out with Kedric Gholston at Georgia, but King has not.

Would your publisher fire you while you are in the middle of writing a book or wait until you have finished? Richt does have some big decisions to make in the off season, but not now.(However, I do think Gray should start this week). If he doesn’t make significant changes with his staff, then your article will be valid.

Recruiting was too good four years ago when he brought in Stafford, Moreno and Allen. Now he is a bad coach because the NFL has millions to offer and we only have black helmets.

Looking at the body of work for the last nine years, Richt has brought us from 7-8 wins to 10-11 wins. He has a wining record against everyone except fl. Last year, the defense was terrible, but Stafford and Moreno gave us 10 wins. This year the defense is worse than terrible and the offense is not very good. Richt has to make changes on defense and special teams to get us back to 10-11 wins. If he doesn’t, you are right.

Adversity builds character and Mark Richt will weather this storm and his true character will shine through.

elmo lewis

November 4th, 2009
11:14 am

His real question – Where do I send Willie’s Christmas card to?

Where's my crack pipe?

November 4th, 2009
11:14 am

Barnhart got it wrong: The problem is we are recruiting “athletes” and not football players……..give me a linebacker that wants to win so bad that he will rip your eyeballs out of your socket anyday compared to the softness we have on D.

TidePrideGA

November 4th, 2009
11:14 am

Kirby Smart should replace Martinez: Former UGA player, great coordinator getting no respect for what he has done at ALA because of the massive ego of Nick Saban and the massive ignorance of the national media.

____________________________________________________________________________

Why, so Richt can make him a running backs coach again? Saban has given Kirby plenty of props. He would be a fool to make a backwards move and go to Athens and UGAG.

JP

November 4th, 2009
11:14 am

Gator fan here. My only comments are – Spikes should have been suspended at least a game, maybe more. UGA will be back. Who are you going to get better than CMR? You need to have that guy picked if CMR is ever let go. And lastly – “Starting in 1971 Alabama went on an 11-year run where the Crimson Tide won 116 games, nine SEC championships and three national championships.” Dayum, that is sick!

Lewis Buzzard

November 4th, 2009
11:15 am

I’m a Tech fan through and through, but UGA fans seem to be in panic mode. I have to think last year was more of a disappointing season than this season. UGA was preseasoned ranked #1 in several polls but finished 10-3 after their bowl win. This season they have 4 losses but still have the oppotunity to run the table and finish the regular season 8-4. I think by any of the fans standards that would be about where they expected to be at the first of the season. Ya’ll just need to chill and let your ball coach do his job.

Tony in Johns Creek

November 4th, 2009
11:16 am

For the life of me, i’m so tired of hearing about having to travel across the country and the complaining about it from Richt, etc. How hard is it for football players who are conditioned, to take abuse to their bodies, to sit on a plane? This is such a lame excuse and I am ALSO tired of hearing about the excuses in going to Jacksonville every year…. TOUGHEN UP and quit complaining about being a pre-season #1! This attitude has to stop. Toughen up your mental approach! THIS IS FOOTBALL!!!! UF isn’t complaining about being a pre-season number 1, why is our team all relieved when we are recognized as a top-tier program? Embrace the pressure and man up! Troy and Charleston Southern does not make a team better, nor does it please any fan… it’s a waste of the fans money to expect us to pay for scrimmages. Until we have a playoff, go ahead and play a tough schedule and if you lose one or two, so be it….

Souljaboy

November 4th, 2009
11:17 am

Richt is the man in charge. Don’t blame assistants. Richt set the tone for his teams by allowing one of the lowest graduation rates in the country, the highest number of player arrests, and the largest number of penalties over a period of five or six years. When the coach sends the team on the field to dance in the end zone, you can’t really expect players to have any respect for rules or sportsmanship. Georgia is a dirty football team. That is the head coach’s fault. It doesn’t matter if Richt is fired or not. Paul Johnson rules the state, and I am not a Tech fan.

scdawg

November 4th, 2009
11:18 am

Evaluating talent is a hugh problem for this staff. It isn’t just about 40 times or bench reps or recruiting rankings. There is an x factor, like how is this kid going to match up with our coaches and is he coachable. As far as the ” other programs offered” crowd, do you think these programs offer just 25 kids a year? I would bet that 75 and up are offered each year knowing that some will be pulled according to position needs and who may pop up on the radar. It is like Clemson offereing sophmores….why ? This kid may have already peaked. Parkview and Byrnes(SC) are two big time programs, but who have they put out that are superstar college players?
Once a player is at Georgia they are seldom moved to a position that they can excel at. The coaching staff is to scared to backup on a promise they mde to a recruit. What position is Allen Bailey playing now? Why was Brandon Miller playing lb, when he should have been a DE the whole time.
Wasting scholarships on kickers and small athletes. Why? Bogatay, Prince Miller , Carlton Thomas are examples. Prince Miller is a liability in coverage and lets not talk about tackling. He should be the punt returner and should have had a look at RB.
The fact that Bryan Evans is playing at all while Baccari Rambo is on the sideline is enough of a reason to show you the defense is broken. Never would this happen at Florida or Alabama.

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
11:19 am

Let the micro management by the dog nation continue. They are the real experts. lol.

mikie g.

November 4th, 2009
11:21 am

somebody please call Jim Harbaugh

gator dawgpounder

November 4th, 2009
11:23 am

kerryb,

When we have a down year (not winning the SEC) under Urban Myer we follow it up with a NC. I don’t think you can say that. I also don’t believe that we will have a down year next year. We will probably lose 4 starters on offence and 5 on defense. One thing Meyer has accomplished which I think Richt is lacking is depth. We have it at every position except QB, but Brantley will be a fine QB more in the mold of Chris Leak. Don’t be so sensitive, not all of us hate UGA!

SOUTHGADAWG88

November 4th, 2009
11:24 am

Kirby Smart would have to go somewhere else and prove he is a good DC on his own merit to me.Saban is running that defense…just look at how many OC’s Pete Carrol’s had who went elsewhere and haven’t done jack.In some instances the CO’s role is a bit overblown.

SEC1

November 4th, 2009
11:24 am

Tony:

The same argument can be applied to the recruiting issue – do you honestly believe that the coaches forgot how to recruit after our successes? Of course not!

What are the two most glaring issues that are different now compared to then?

1. Van Gorder gone and Martinez the DC
2. Bobo the OC

Seriously, what else is different? Perhaps Richt did get a little complacent along the way.

The statistics do not lie. We have regressed on defense and penalties. We are not disciplined. We are not a well-coached team. The results are all the testimony you need…

Damon: Spend the money and recruit some top-notch, proven talent for our coordinators! DO IT!

another dawg in ptc

November 4th, 2009
11:24 am

Where would the might gators be if Timmy, Eyegouge and Cooper had gone to the NFL?

Eric

November 4th, 2009
11:24 am

m for moron, only children use words like crybaby. does your mommy know you’re using her computer…and does she know you went to pride? which by the way, there’s nothing with that, if you’re old enough.

Tide Rising

November 4th, 2009
11:28 am

Recruiting and evaluation- Tubbs said it best the other day. For the most part everyone recruits the same 4-5 star recruits and its hit or miss with the these players as to whether they will be a bust or the real deal. You can evaluate 40 times but its harder to evaluate discipline and whether or not a kid has the drive to succeed or if he’s a prima donna.

Its also hit or miss and just lucky as to whether or not the ones who do pan out will stay the full 4 years as Ronnie Brown and Carnell did at Auburn or go pro early as Knowshown and Stafford did at UGA.

Georgia has run into a highly unusual position where the running backs were all highly recruited but have all so far turned out to be just average.

In our case at Bama Mark Ingram was a 3 star recruit and not heavily recruited and now he’s leading the Heisman race as a sophomore. Saban did the unusual and went to Michigan of all places to recruit this kid hard. In this case it was just a matter of doing a better job of evaluating talent because Ingram did not have offers from Michigan, Ohio State, etc. Same with Meyer taking in Brandon James. His assistant saw something in James and had to talk Meyer into offering him. Same with Thomas Davis at Georgia who was not heavily recruited but an assistant saw him and talked the HC into offering him.

And I do remember those Miami teams of the 80s which never had top 20 recruiting classes but then they would go out and just dominate FSU with all their 4-5 star recruits. In that case there was no question about it. Jimmy Johnson simply knew better how to evaluate football players and not prima donnas who come with all the accolades but come game time would take whuppings from his guys.

Bottom line is that there is some luck involved in whether or not 4 and 5 stars pan out, some will, some won’t, and you have to find guys that are way undervalued like Ingram, Brandon James, Thomas Davis

ARdawg

November 4th, 2009
11:29 am

Barnhart

Good column but one other thing should be mentioned concerning scheduling. If you are a good solid quality football team it doesn’t matter who, where or when you play whom. You play them and win or you play them tight and lose with good effort. Most Dawg fans have no problem with that or the scheduling. Georgia has had one of the toughest schedules for the last 3 years, prior to that one of the weakest. It’s all philosophy I know, but concerning oneself with the competition’s schedule is already accepting failure. Who cares who FL and Bama plays as long as we’re competing and/or beating those we play. The problem there is we’re not competing and haven’t for the last 25 games. We should be able to compete and beat anyone we play. Georgia has ALL of the ingredients for a masterful team but continues to underachieve. Thats not a fault of scheduling too many BCS teams.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
11:31 am

The only thing Tech has to worry about is Wake Forest. Everything else will take care of its self. I know there are some real stupid Tech fans that come on this blog but you dawg fans bring it own yourself. Always down grading our schedule, stadium, and conference. I guess when a program has suffered as Tech has and we finally get someone who wants to move forward, the knuckleheads come out of the woodwork. You have to admit based on the dawg nation past attitude it is easy to kick at you when you are down. Just the nature of the beast. I hope we are 11-1 and end the year 13-1 but I have always felt we should win every game, even when Bill Lewis was HC. You dawgies are having a tough year and I am not saying we will beat you everytime we hit the field but our chances are a lot better now than they were two years ago. I think that is what bothers you so much, you know it is correct and you will have to work for those victories now because Tech is not the push over it once was. One other thing, I don’t live in the past, today and the future are all that is important.

Harris

November 4th, 2009
11:33 am

Two changes should be made ->Stinchcomb as o-line coach, Pollack as D-line coach

Driver 8

November 4th, 2009
11:35 am

Seems like our program started downhill when we began offering juniors en mass. Other schools seemingly are doing this just as much, but is it possible that by putting a premium on finalizing your recruiting class early that you greatly increase your margin of error regarding who these players really are?

Regarding the post-season evaluations; Richt proved last year that he can’t or won’t make hard choices. ALL of the problems plaguing our program were evident last year. Richt did nothing. The problems have predictably snowballed to the point where they are now systemic. A quick fix seems less likely now.

OKLAHOMADAWGS

November 4th, 2009
11:36 am

Just look at all the UGA players in the NFL. ITS NOT THE RECRUITING, ITS THE COACHING ( or lack there of )

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
11:36 am

Eric, if you are a UGA fan you just proved my point. M is getting to you and your post back to him proves it. I am not saying he is a bad person but he does not represent the majority of Tech fans. And to the UGA fan that said Jonathan D. could not play in the SEC, well I hope your coaches can judge talent better than you. Maybe that is the problem.

ARdawg

November 4th, 2009
11:36 am

AZ Jacket

The pendulum has swung your way. Congrats on that. Your team is playing well and ya’ll do deserve your current success. I do however look forward to the day it swings back and your team is in the tank where it belongs. I see a great game coming this year. We are near the point we have nothing to lose but beating Tech could somewhat salvage a dismal year

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
11:37 am

WTH. Yep. A HS offense playing against what looks to be a bunch of HS defenses. Let JD play the defenses of Bama, LSU, TENN, SC, UGA, Auburn and Florida on a regular basis and then let’s see what it looks like. Seriously, building up stats against the schedule tech is playing is comical and I think most people outside the tech program realize it.

jumbeauxtiger

November 4th, 2009
11:37 am

I think more is being made of this situation than it is. The Dawgs have talent. I don’t see an issue with their conditioning program, as the games they have lost since last season wasn’t because they got worn out in the 4th quarter. There’s no doubt they have had a challenging out of conference schedule lately with Tech solid again but it is not like the other BCS teams they have played and will play(Ok State, Az St and Colorado) are powerhouses. They have the talent to win those games.

The issue to me is the staff. Every top coach is surrounded by solid assistants(I know Dawg fans don’t want to hear this but you have to give Kiffin credit for his staff as look what they have done). Richt needs to get rid of several coaches and not just the DC.

He needs to evaluate himself and find within him a way to establish discipline, focus and accountability to his players.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

PMC

November 4th, 2009
11:37 am

I think every team that wants to play for a championship should play 8 conference games and 4 BCS non conference opponents.

Gators for Richt

November 4th, 2009
11:38 am

I feel bad for Richt. Having to put up with all this abuse from the Bulldog nation.

OKLAHOMADAWGS

November 4th, 2009
11:40 am

I dont believe its the recruiting, just look at all the UGA playes in the NFL. But I do agree with the off-season conditioning statement. I was at the Okie St game this year. UGA players ran out of gas early. I grew up in GA and now live in OKLA. It gets hot out here, but not like the GA heat and humidity.
Our players were out-of-shape, period.

MH

November 4th, 2009
11:40 am

Good point on evaluating talent. Here’s an insider. UGA (specifically Mike Bobo) recruited Demeryius Thomas but wanted him to play tight end. Demeryius was in fact offered a scholarship, turned it down initially, but then decided UGA was a good fit. Unfortunately a guy named Nadarius Ward wanted to play at UGA as well. Mike Bobo told Demeryius that because Nadarius Ward had 4 stars instead of Demeryius’s 3 stars he got the scholarship. Nadarius has since left the program and Demeryius is leading the ACC in reception yards his junior year and has NFL written all over him. This is the kind of garbage you can continue to expect with Mike Bobo and Willie Martinez. Shaking things up is not being un-loyal, it is being realistic.

GatorT

November 4th, 2009
11:43 am

Don’t the GymDawgs beat the football players every year in a strength and agility contest? Maybe the gymnastics coach should train the football players. I doubt the Florida or Alabama gymnastics teams would be beating their football players.

Tide Rising

November 4th, 2009
11:48 am

MH,

Interesting. Stars aren’t everything and Tubbs proved that at Auburn. While he had some great players like Carnell Williams his teams were usually 11-15 in recruiting classes. I don’t think he ever had a top 5 recruiting class and he always seemed to find 3 star players that turned later into nfl players. He must have learned something from his days with Jimmy Johnson at Miami.

G8R GRAD

November 4th, 2009
11:51 am

JP:

Agreed.
He (Spikes) should have to sit out at least the entire next game.
Frankly, I doubt we’d need him anyway.

Larry

November 4th, 2009
11:51 am

Tony-

I can say without a doubt that this is the finest thing you have ever written. Simple but entertaining and necessary concept, direct, concise, but effectively detailed execution. No extraneous fluff. Well done.

TybeeDawg

November 4th, 2009
11:53 am

Water Girl wants to know…”Coach, why are we 4-4 through 8 games this year?

Mickey Andrews

November 4th, 2009
11:53 am

Richt I will be looking for a job come 2/10/2010. Call me if you would like to talk. You have way better players then the current team I am coaching.

G8R GRAD

November 4th, 2009
11:54 am

another dog in ptc:

We’d have two, maybe three loses – UT, LSU, and probably ARK.

[...] Barnhart gets into Georgia’s recruiting in his Mr. College Football blog today . . [...]

Doc

November 4th, 2009
11:56 am

Hire Charlie Strong and pay him more than Florida

Larry

November 4th, 2009
11:57 am

what really sucks about this whole thing is that Richt has turned one rebuilding year into 2. by staying loyal to cox and keeping the shirt on murray, he has assured that next year will be another down year as we prep another QB and continue the musical chair rotation at tailback. if murray had started all year, we would have sucked, but at least he would be ready to come out next season with the poise and composure of a battle-tested QB

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
11:59 am

HBTD, and the people outside the Tech program who realize this are who? Tech has played the defense of UGA and did pretty well. Since you did not include MSU and Vandy then they are just weak sisters in the SEC. I would have thought the worst teams in the SEC would be much better than any ACC, WAC, C-USA, Mtn. West, and Big East. Oh that is right, the mighty #2 team in the SEC gets it bottom spanked by Utah. JD would run just as well in any conference as long as the team can block. He is a top caliber running back and will play at the next level. You can be sure of that.

Gatorzip74

November 4th, 2009
12:00 pm

Larry
I agree with you 100%. Major error on developing the QB by CMR. Loyalty is to the whole team, not just one player.

unbiased volfan

November 4th, 2009
12:02 pm

#4 is a copout and just reiterates the point that you’d like to see UGA become the “ole miss” of the east again

i love the fact that most of the SEC takes pride in their out of conference schedules.

where there’s smoke….trust me on this, we went through the “blame it on Randy Sanders!”

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
12:02 pm

The Real SugarHillDawg, we already got our ‘7′ game winning streak….on our way to winning ‘THE’ streak of eight!!!

Mike, we’re working on those mousetraps! However, we’ve developed some ‘problems’….it keeps snagging everything but a hurricane!

Bud, how would those lines play out in a movie… the coach comes stomping into the showers, throwing an arm full of footballs at everyone while yelling, “Football ain’t rocket science…..!”?

Kirby Smart, you can’t ‘F’ the dawgs…there are laws! But, as you say, “You’re in BAMA, now”…laws vary from state to state…good luck!

Gagata

November 4th, 2009
12:06 pm

Tony
I think it should be pointed out that Richt is now looking across the field and staring at Meyer, Saban, Spurrier, Johnson instead of Zook, Shula, Holtz and Gailey. Now he is going to have to deal with Mullen and Kiffin. I think that Richt is a gentleman but the real issue may be that coaching has greatly improved in the SEC.

By the way, how was it being in NY instead of Jax?

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:08 pm

ARdawg, thank you. You are typical. You and M would be fast buddies. How do you know where Tech belongs? As I said, we may not win all of them but I am sure they will be a lot more competitive and you will have to be better than us to win. That is the problem with the idiot fringe of the dawg nation. They think that they are give the elite status, not earn it. Well the media and the nation crowned you elite and what did you do, you threw it away by being middle of the pack. Now we have the idiot fringe of the Tech nation who over the past two years who have come out of the woodwork. As CPJ says you are only as good as you last game. How was your last game?

Hedgepruner

November 4th, 2009
12:08 pm

BUCKY BELUE had us at #5 in his weekly 680 TOP FIVE, I listen to Buck & Kincaid on a regular bases “enough” to know that BUCKY is a solid uga alum (former player for the mutts) and very knowledgeable about college football, as hard as it was for him to do that I tip my pruners to him for owning up to GT’s success so far. I agree we are playing at a higher level with our offense but until our defense & special teams get it together we could easily lose the next 3 games and ruin our chances at the ACC championship & BCS bowl. The one thing that inspires me every week is the way CPJ & staff have made adjustment in the 2nd half and come out to seal the victory, something us Jacket fans haven’t witnessed in quite awhile. I feel optimistic about our chances down the stretch but remember we haven’t had a week off going on 10 weeks and the guys are beat up pretty bad (ESPECIALLY OUR DEFENSE) , so maybe we somehow find that special something that great teams find to get us to the point of finishing 11-1 or 10-2 and set us up beautifully for the 2010 season .And next year we have all these junior players back & we also regain the lost 6 scholarships that will mean so much too….bring on WAKE & THWG !!

Ramblin Wrecker

November 4th, 2009
12:09 pm

Wait a minute. Alabama switched to the wishbone then went on an 11-year run where the Crimson Tide won 116 games, nine SEC championships and three national championships?

Wow. And why exactly do people think the option is outdated and won’t work in bigtime football? After seeing how dominate GT’s offense is with big time athletes, I don’t know why anybody would have scrapped the option. Nebraska changed for the sake of changing and have not been good since. Go back and look and you’ll see that some of the most dominant runs in the history of college football were by programs running the option. Nebraska under Tom Osbourne. Oklahoma under Bud Wilkinson and Barry Switzer. Alabama under Bear Bryant. Oh well, everybody keep running your yawn inducing pro style offenses (UGA) and we’ll reap the benefits of Paul Johnson’s old school genius.

Abilene

November 4th, 2009
12:10 pm

I know this sounds like heresy, but losing three of the next four games (no way the Dawgs can lose to Tenn Tech) would be the best thing for the program, since it would force the administration to make at least some changes in the coaching staff, preferably at the top. I’m talking about Richt, not just his inept assistants.

Ending up with a 5-7 record and no bowl game would be a very bitter pill to swallow, but we could start rebuilding with a new coaching staff and have hope for the future.

Regarding recruiting: Obviously Richt recruits talented players, but they’re mostly not legitimate students, they’re not very intelligent, they have very little discipline, and they get arrested often. UGA has become as infamous as the Criminoles and the old Miami teams, and that has to stop.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:11 pm

Sorry for the typos but this laptop keyboard is very hard to work.

RT Tech fan

November 4th, 2009
12:11 pm

Dudes,
You lost two, that’s two legit first round NFL picks on offense. Its gotta hurt. Who would expect any team to recover from that the very next season? Us techies would be satisfied with beating UGA and going to the Astro-BlueBonnet bowl. If you won every week, what fun would that be? I really think Richt is suffering from really high expectations. Maybe you guys could get Chan Gailey. Please oh please hire Chan.

Roll Tider

November 4th, 2009
12:13 pm

Here’s what a real coach looks and sounds like…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Wr1NPVAVo

unbiased volfan

November 4th, 2009
12:13 pm

Abilene, see UT’s 2006 record…

any similarities?

rosco

November 4th, 2009
12:13 pm

Dwyer is in the ACC (All Cupcake Conference). Of course he’s going to look good. He has no strong competition to run against. This was exposed/proven in the whipping by LSU.

Here is another example: Cox is an anemic QB. If he was at GT he’d look like a Heisman.

OTOH, if Cox was at Bama, he’d look like a Heisman there as well. In that scenario (UGA vs BAMA), it is coaching. So a good SEC coach can take an avg player and cultivate them into a good product.

If Richt is unable to see talent, then why is he a HC? And if all of the rating services are wrong, then this means we have an entire team of 3 and 4stars that aren’t really 3/4stars and we have a HC who can’t rate talent. I’m calling BS on this one. This is nothing more than yet another excuse to cover up the ineptitude of the assistant coaches by deflecting the blame to the players.

All of these AJC articles that are ‘analyzing’ what UGA should do are about on the same level as peeing up a rope in terms of outcome. CMR is not going to fire anybody, not going to change his personality, not going to change his game schemes. He won’t even bench a losing QB (Cox). His press comments are that “bad ball bounces” seem to have led to the poor record. “we just needed to catch a few breaks by getting a few fumbles and interceptions to go our way and we’d be in the pact”. While that’s true in part, it’s not true in whole.

Dawg fans are just going to have to ride the wave of disaster until the money alums get fed up with losing. Which, if you go back and look at Goff and Donnan years, you’ll see we are in for at least two more seasons of losses to AU and/or GT combos. The FLA whipping is expected and accepted (if it weren’t, Richt would already be gone) so it doesn’t factor into the equation.

I think dawgs beat the two Tech teams and get taken to the wood shed by AU and KY. They might get a bowl but should really stay home to avoid further embarrassment.

Ga boy

November 4th, 2009
12:14 pm

Naw- don’t have Spikes sit out at all- just have him write 500 times on the blackboard-”I won’t try and blind another player again(maybe)”. I mean- Ealey himself said it was all cool. What’s the big deal right? he didn’t get hurt-no harm no foul. You just can’t teach class-you either have it or you don’t. Florida never has and never will. But they do have 24 football player arrests over the last 4 years.Lots of activity at the Gainesville penintentiary school evidently.

UGA Alum

November 4th, 2009
12:14 pm

Why are there so many Tech fans on the UGA blog? I have never even read an article about Tech. I don’t care about Tech except for that one Saturday afte Thanksgiving. I guess Tech fans truly are obsessed with UGA or the nerds spend way too much time in front of their computers! Get a life!

Tide Rising

November 4th, 2009
12:15 pm

Scheduling- Have to disagree with Tony on scheduling. There are 4 strategies to this.

1) Be like Ole Miss and play 4 straight patsy noncons as in this year.

2) Be like USCw and play 1 top tier team a year like Ohio State and then play 2 respectable if not great bcs conference like teams like Notre Dame and Virginia last year. This year they played a patsy in San Jose State but usually they play a mid tier bcs conference team or a respectable team like Fresno State that usually ends up in a bowl as their 3rd noncon game. To my knowledge they have never played a double a team ever to their credit. USCw plays 9 conference games so they only have 3 noncon games. They’ve also played respectable sec teams over the years like Auburn and Ark. This is the toughest noncon scheduling of the 4 ways to do your noncons.

3) Do like Bama and play 3 patsies but play one preseason top 10 team from another bcs conference and preferably a team that is part of the elite in that conference. We played VT 2 time defending acc champ this year and next year we play Penn State which has been the best or 2nd best team in the big 10 the last few years. Personally I would like to see us pick up a better mid tier team such as Southern Miss or Houston instead of FIU or north texas.

4) Georgia would do well to probably do like Bama or drop one of their middle tier opponents. Currently dogs play respectable but not great teams from other bcs conferences and a patsy.

ASU is a good name and an expected win but is not that big a challenge. Same with OK state which has never finished better than 3rd in its own division and although they started out top 10 everyone knows they never finish top 10. Same with Colorado, etc. These are games against bcs names but games that in any given year Georgia schedules because they are expected to win.

Not too tough like a VT but not to easy like a north texas either. Georgia should either drop these 2 middling games per year and play one big boy that’s usually in the top 2-3 in their conference or just drop 1 of the middling teams and then they have 2 patsys, I say this because of the rise of Tech. UGA would then play 1 decent but not great team like an Ok st, Asu, Colorado, and a tough GT game. GT now counts as a tough opponent with CPJ at the helm. 1 decent team, 1 good to great team like Tech, and 2 easy games. Nothing wrong with that schedule.

another dawg in ptc

November 4th, 2009
12:15 pm

G8R GRAD,
thanks for the reply. I’m sure you wouldn’t have 4 losses like we have. And I’m sure you wouldn’t have given up brazilion points like we have.

unbiased volfan

November 4th, 2009
12:16 pm

UGA fans…..it could always be worse. How’d you like to be an Ole Piss fan?

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:16 pm

Ramblin Wrecker, no one on this blog (UGA) can understand your logic. As ARDawg said it, I paraphrase, Tech needs to get back where they belong. What none of these so called football experts will admit is that CPJ is being successful with players that were recruited for the pro style offense. I hope this does not scare you that much but CPJ still have over 40% of his offense that has not been used.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:18 pm

UGA Alum, last I heard this was not a UGA blog. I thought this was a CFB blog, that is what Tony advertises isn’t it. Just because he is righting about the dawgs does not make it yours. His last blog was over run with dawgies. Are you saying the Mr. College Football is strickly a dawg blogger.

Gatorpoop1

November 4th, 2009
12:18 pm

Hey Tony, when are you gonna lose some weight and get a TV show worth watching?

Biff Dawg

November 4th, 2009
12:20 pm

G8R GRAD… Ealey is a good kid and it was good to see that even he felt this was being blown out of proportion. Gator fans were saying it was Bulldog fans bringing it up but it was Urban’s wife and Coach Strong who mentioned it first. I’m glad to see we have a young RB who wasn’t afraid to tell it like it was. I’m sure he and I will be blasted by Dawg fans for saying it though. Also even though I’m a Dawg fan if you haven’t seen todays Florida Times Union you need to see the latest Tebow article. The short of it is this was not some press show because Tebow knew there was no press allowed but he played catch with a 10 year old fan and made that kid’s day/lifetime. The only picture came from a cops cell phone so nobody can say he did it for exposure. Just shows what a good kid Tebow is. There I said it.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:21 pm

rosco, JD had a real good rushing day in the LSU game last year. Tech’s offense did not play that poorly. But don’t let facts get in the way.

coach smith

November 4th, 2009
12:21 pm

gator dawgpounder

you need to look at the Gators’ depth chart my friend

8 Senior starters on defense (and Hayden will leave as a junior)

Seniors on offense= Tebow, Cooper, B.James, Moore, Nelson, 3 Senior O-lineman and the Pauncy twins already said they were leaving,

you better go look….The Gators will take a step back

And for that matter

TENNESSEE will lose EVERY O-Lineman, Geral Jones, Eric Berry, Hardesty, 3 of 4 D-lineman, and 2 linebackers….They will step back before moving forward too

Larry

November 4th, 2009
12:21 pm

dammit. just typed out a huge comment and your crappy blog ate it. you guys really need to stop using Wordpress.

Tide Rising

November 4th, 2009
12:22 pm

Ramblin Wrecker,

You won’t hear criticism from me. I’m a big fan of option football and I like watching Tech play. If you have a unique offense its hard for a team to prepare for you. And the reality is that for all its current problems UGA will always have better talent than Tech but with an option offense Tech can equalize things. Nothing wrong with the option offense for Tech. Its a perfect fit.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:22 pm

See folks, there are classy dawg fans, “Biff Dawg”

Art

November 4th, 2009
12:23 pm

Otto Strahl, obviously you don’t have a clue what the hell you’re talking about. In 05 UGA was #7, 06 #23, 07 #2, and 08 #10….so what the hell is your dumbazz talking about? That once a decade wonder over on North Ave would pimp their boyfriends to be able to claim those numbers.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:24 pm

I would say the Tech offense is more versital than the current UGA offense. Defenses have really locked on to that one.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:25 pm

Now Art, make sure you mention that in 08 you were predicted to win the MNC and was preseason #1. Underachieving is not a good thing.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
12:26 pm

AZ Jack. You need to try and look at it objectively which does seem to be a problem for you. Yes, Vandy and MSU are arguably the two worst programs in the SEC. I’d compare these two programs to an NCS, Maryland, Va. NC, BC in the ACC. Certainly above a WF and Duke and below a Miami, VT, Clemson and of course the might Jacket who I believe “ONLY” surrendered 31 points to each this season in their two SEC clashes.

I never said JD wasn’t a good running back. It’s just weak to suggest that he’d be putting up the numbers he does in the SEC on a weekly basis. As good as he looks in that “tricked up offense” PJ runs, I just don’t see him being a TB in the NFL. Can he block? Maybe he could be FB.

Lastly, the point you and all the other nerds can’t seem to grasp (dang I thought you guys were all supposed to be real smart over there on the flats) is that any team can beat another team on a given Saturday, i.e. Boise over Okl., App. St. over Mich., Utah over Bama and of course GT over UGA last year. However, it’s very difficult to win these games on a week end and week out basis. Until Tech plays a real schedule, they’ll never have my respect and will be thrown into the same bucket as the Big East and WAC teams.

Atticus

November 4th, 2009
12:28 pm

The scheduling question is irrelevant at what we are discussing today. Yes it was too difficult this year but it’s not about wins and losses it is about HOW we win and lose and this started 3 years ago.

1-He lost a great coach in VH.

2-He used to stress discipline more, just ask ex-players. Teams that play well can deserve diufferent treatment, they have earned it. Teams that haven’t need to be treated like the army.

3-He didn’t hire the best coaches in the country, he hired ones he was comfortable with. That is his preogitive as HC, but the experiment failed. This is a business—go hire the best coaches in the nation and pay them well.

4-Demand accountability from coaches and players and have a way to measure it and reward or discipline accordingly.

Jay

November 4th, 2009
12:29 pm

So now Barnhart is using the schedule as an excuse. Last couple of weeks it was the refs. What’s his next excuse for Uga’s poor play…the recession?

David

November 4th, 2009
12:31 pm

As a season ticket holder, I am proud of where the program is today under CMR. It has moved forward light years compared to where we were under the previous two coaches. I am confident things will turn around. Great programs have down years. I am sure that we will bounce back. We really need to rally around this team and this coach. I Support CMR!!!

Art

November 4th, 2009
12:32 pm

Az Jacket you should know all about underachieving. GT has been mired in mediocrity since 1964 and will soon return there. Maybe you can also tell us just how many teams have gone wire to wire #1. Can you Az Jacket? I bet you wish GT could “underachieve like that consistently.

TerriDawg

November 4th, 2009
12:32 pm

I would feel a lot better if I woke up one morning and read that Mark Richt was gone.

Barrow Dawg

November 4th, 2009
12:32 pm

CUZ—– It is incredible that someone living that close to South Carolina can be so astute. Win or lose I’m proud to be a UGA fan

Bob Bohanan

November 4th, 2009
12:36 pm

Tony,

You are being a bit disingenuous about Bear Bryant. The reason he changed “his approach on a more fundamental level” was Sam Cunningham, and you know what fundamental change I am referring to.

BigDog_2009

November 4th, 2009
12:36 pm

Terry Bowden !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!

UGASlobberknocker

November 4th, 2009
12:36 pm

Tony, pls air mail this column to Coach Richt in case he missed it. Every word is true.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
12:38 pm

Looks like AZJACKET had to get back to class…………..no new post in the last 5 minutes.

ARdawg

November 4th, 2009
12:38 pm

AZ Jacket

For me as a loyal Dawg fan, Tech belongs in the gutter. It’s old fashion hate. However, I do congratulate and respect your team for their recent performance and selection of coach. I will never like Tech although there are occasions where I will bet and cheer them on.

I also appreciate you AZ Jacket. It is so rare that a Tech fan comes on a UGA blog and can actually formulate and contribute to a reasoned discussion. Perhaps GT isn’t as bad as most of your bloggers portray

Calhoundawg

November 4th, 2009
12:39 pm

Well, I hate to say it, but I am officially on the “fire Mark Richt” bandwagon. Even the SEC Championships and the ten-win seasons don’t sway me anymore. I think we need to replace Richt with a successful big-time coach from another major conference. Names of coaches that are far superior to Richt come to mind such as Rich Rodriguez, Charlie Weis, Bo Pellini, Dan Hawkins, Rick Neuheisel, etc. Hell, look what Steve Spurrier has done for South Carolina! Maybe we could get him to come over.

Elliot Garcia

November 4th, 2009
12:41 pm

Hey Tony, Georgia plays Charleston Southern in 2011. Check the schedule!!

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:42 pm

HBTD, you have a right to you opinion. Would be better if you could try to get you point across with out the name calling. Just because someone went to Tech does not mean they are a nerd. I consider myself to be rather hip. I dated while in high school (even a cheerleader) and college. Played football and baseball. The only problem with me was that I was also smart. You know being smart is not that bad. My Tech education opened up a lot of doors and has allowed me to live a really comfortable life. I don’t think I am better than anyone else just very lucky. So, this so called nerd says to you, you have a right to your opinion but in my nerdie way I think you are full of Sh-t and would not know a tough team if it bit you on the arse.

UGA Alum

November 4th, 2009
12:43 pm

When the topic of the blog is UGA, yes. When the topic is Tech, I don’t want to waste my time. I don’t understand the Tech fascination with UGA.

mcdawg6

November 4th, 2009
12:43 pm

First decent article I’ve seen in a while. Why don’t you put an arm around Schultz and “coach him up” a little. Too whiney in his stuff right now.

Atlantalawyer

November 4th, 2009
12:44 pm

Really, really excellent article. One of the best I’ve read. I hope that Richt reads it. Email it to him.

I (Kirby Smart)

November 4th, 2009
12:45 pm

My bags are packed, Call me, I’m ready to come help straighten out my old team. Put some fire in them and my foot up their ass. But really people. Ga needs to get a proven Def Cord. who can stop the Tech option as well. We don’t need to just go out and get a Ga man like this is a store shopping decision. Richt needs to get the very best Coach he can. Just like Lane Kifen did. Now if that happens to be a Ga man then well enough.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:46 pm

Sorry but I am here HBTD. Thank you ARDawg for your comments. I can understand the good old fashion hate. I did not know this was a UGA blog but just a College Football Blog with a UGA article. This same blog had an article about Tech yesterday, although I think it was TB’s way of being sarcastic. No MNC vision this year for this Jacket.

Paddy

November 4th, 2009
12:47 pm

Monticello Dawg….love your enthusiasm, but have you seen us play this season? We are not coming for anybody, least of all Tech. If you can’t tackle and play with discipline CPJ will make you look confused and appear slow footed. Not a good combination!

Erk'sthebest

November 4th, 2009
12:47 pm

Mark Richt needs to use the old temporary help technique. When you want four folks to work, you bring six. Immediately after starting, you pick out the two slowest, fire them, and pay them off, and then let them walk back to where you picked them up. The other four work harder all day, because they don’t want what happened to their peers to happen to them. Sounds rather cruel, but for those folks who used it, it worked every time. Mark Richt’s folks have gotten way too comfortable, because they don’t have any fear of Richt firing them. Stop blaming the players. As Bear Bryant said one time during a rare down season for him, “The players did what the coaches asked of them, it’s just that the coaches didn’t ask much.”

Villa Rica DAWG

November 4th, 2009
12:47 pm

This article definitely helps answer some of the “what’s wrong” questions swimming in my own head. Thanks T!

Will Garland

November 4th, 2009
12:47 pm

Finally, an even keeled article that deals with the issues at hand in a sound and methodical manner. This article is a welcome change of pace from the usual sensationalist driven blubber that has been appearing on this website. I actually finished this article with the feeling that I learned something. Thank you Tony Barnhart.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
12:48 pm

UGA Alum, not a fascination with UGA but for me it is laughable. I bet if you were honest you would own up to coming on a Tech blog and giving them hell…right.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
12:51 pm

UGA Alum, we’re just “rubber knecking”…..who doesn’t slow down to see a train wreck?!

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
12:52 pm

AZ. You “consider yourself rather hip?” Hmmm? You sound sensative, defensive and insecure. Unfortunately, the beatdown that awaits your team on the 28th is probably only going to heighten these problems for you. Sorry!

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
12:52 pm

i know…. i goofed on “knecking”….should be necking…. my bad

ARdawg

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

AZ Jacket

If the topic is UGA, then it is a UGA blog. Same with a Tech topic of which I sometimes peruse and rarely post. It’s AJC’s format. Of course all are welcome anywhere but speaking of fringe, most of the Tech fringe appears to be obsessed with UGA. I have noticed some decent threads from time to time on the Tech blogs and most of those guys involved in those threads are rarely on the UGA blogs

Inferiority Complex

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

Try asking why the dogs are so fascinated withe the Gators.

DDT

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

I’ll bet you right now GT ends this season exactly like it did last season, getting beatdown and embarrassed in a bowl game. The worst thing that could happen to GT is a BCS bowl.

collegeballfan

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

My question on the players is less their number of stars on a recruiting website but whether or not they fit the system the coaching staff is running.

Snoop Dawg

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

Drink that Koolaid, Dawgs. You know, a dog sleeps over 18 hours a day. Seems the Bulldog nation is sleeping too. When awake, they are intoxicated with the Preacher Man’s Koolaid. Here’s the gouge, y’all- This guy is getting $3M a year ($100 from every student enrolled at UGA)and is not earning it. His style doesn’t motivate, his judgement is not good, and he cannot pull the trigger or poor performers like Bozo and Willie. Therefore, the Preacha Man and his entire Medicine Show needs to go. Don’t worry–maybe FSU will take a like to the Koolaid he passes around so skillfully. He’s truly an artful dodger.

Pit Bull

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

(Erk’s the best, that is a profound quote! “The players did what was asked of them, it’s just that the coaches didn’t ask much” Bear Byrant. I can see why he was such a great coach. He has common sense! That quote is exactly what’s wrong with the Dawgs and Richt can’t see it. He listens to Willey saying, “the players aren’t tackling! “The players aren’t tackling!

Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 4th, 2009
12:56 pm

As Brandon “Lightnin” Spikes ‘ attourney, We would like to make a statement at this time: ” We not only deny the alligations , we deny the alligator”.

Northern sympathizer

November 4th, 2009
12:58 pm

I think I disagree with all five of Tony’s points.

Richt gets a little too much credit for the 02 and 05 titles. Why? Those teams were carried by VanGorder’s trained defenses who overwhelmingly carried the team. UGA ranked in the top 10 every year in defensive stats from 02-04. The offense always lagged far behind statistically and was sometimes in the lower tier of the SEC in offensive numbers. Message to CMR-Get Kirby or the equivalent!

BE

November 4th, 2009
12:59 pm

Tony, Question 1 has no merit. This is why. Tech is running a totally different offense where Dwyer does not have to learn a PRO system. The option is not complicated, there is no use of receivers to learn blocking routes. Question 2: Yes. Question 3: No one can truly answer this, Georgia is younger, the Gators have older players – more seasoned. Question 4. Look what UT schedules. Look at 2010 for UT. Question 5. Your drawing off coaches 30 years ago now. Richt is the best thing that has happened to UGA since Dooley left Tony. Is it fair to judge Kiffin off Gen. Neyland? I agree Florida is not as expected, but are better than the rest – right now.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
12:59 pm

Inferiority. As a dawg fan, I have nothing but respect for the Fl. program. Quite simply and IMO, there hands down the best program in the country over this decade. You’ll get no argument from me.

Willie

November 4th, 2009
12:59 pm

I golfing saturday and shot a 89. Wahoo! I heard UGA was handed its butt on a platter. I guess it will be until CMR fires Martinez or at least replaces him. Well, you guys keep me posted on the coaching aspects because I really do not care about the games. I can not tolerate a loser being coached by a 4.4 million dollar coach. Well..thats just me…

John

November 4th, 2009
12:59 pm

Mr CFB,
As far as strategic scheduling goes; I hope you’re not saying we have to become Florida to beat Florida. The way they intentionally packed this year’s schedule with as many patsies as possible was absolutely disgusting. Toss in a “gimme” win against the game-but-consistently-undermanned Vanderbilt and clearly 4/12 of UF’s 2009 schedule amounted to little more than glorified scrimmages. That’s a season to be proud of? Hardly, that’s the way to play the loopholes in the BCS system and cook an undefeated season. I say good for UGA for finally running to worthy out-of-conference opponents rather than away from them.

As far as recruiting classes go, USC, Texas, Florida, et al receive rave reviews from the same rating services that bless UGA’s incoming talent every year. Every program’s got their share of walk-on-to-all-American and blue-chip-to-bust stories. I suppose that just proves how tough it is to project how talent will perform at the next level. Seems like part of the basic job description for a head coach.

But if I’m correctly taking your point, you perceive Mark Richt to be a “great” coach. And as such, he’s due his grace period to right his floundering ship – by taking names and kicking butts from one end of his program to the other.

How long is his grace period, anyway?

I’ll submit this is Richt’s second wasted season. The quality of his or his staff’s coaching is no worse than last year. He just has a tougher schedule and he can’t hide his many flaws as a coach with departed talents like Stafford and Moreno.

And the “He’ll never embarrass us” claim is a matter of opinion. Maybe CMR won’t get caught in a hottub with coeds or get a DUI; but I challenge anybody to tell me UGA’s recent performances against arch-rivals are not embarrassing – no, make that humiliating to a once-proud program.

Me personally, I’ll trade a little virtue for human frailty if it comes with good coaching skills.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
1:00 pm

Recruiting athletes with character can’t be overemphasized. Georgia posters love to bash Tech for “majoring in literature” or “communications”, etc. Let’s look at the 10 OL’s in the tech rotation:
RS Soph – pre-med
RS SR – management
RS JR – management HS national honor society
RS JR – aerospace engineering
RS FR – undeclared
RS SR – civil engineering
RS JR – civil engineering
RS SO – undeclared
RS FR – undeclared
RS FR – undeclared

UGA has shown that it can recruit great athletes with high character (examples on the OL: the Stinchcomb brothers).

read n black

November 4th, 2009
1:00 pm

Here is what concerns me – I have been very vocal regarding a couple of Georgia’s coaches and have commented that, if the leader cannot lead, he should not lead. My feelings are that CWM cannot lead the defense and CMB cannot lead the offense. However, that does not mean that I feel CMR cannot lead this team but he must do so by removing the deficiencies. My concern is that CMR may get tired of the Bulldawg Nation not trusting him, like we have done so much of in the past, and criticizing his every decision. He is a good coach and I have all the confidence in him in the world. I am confident CWM will not be the defensive coordinator…I am also confident CWM will be on our coaching staff next year!

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
1:00 pm

HBTD, thanks man, if I had gone outside this blog to get that diagnosis it would have cost me $200 per hour. I really appreciate you insight. If a beat down comes on the 28th I will not jump off the bandwagon, I will not scream that my coach should be fired. Now I don’t expect a beat down but you never know until you play the game. I am sure if Tech wins you will go back in your little hole and not come out until bowl week. My life does not depend on Tech winning or losing but winning is more fun. I bet you are one of those bloggers who have been predicting a beat down of Tech every game this year. Thanks for the diagnosis, man it is great what you can get on these blogs. I don’t have time to talk anymore today….30 minutes till tee-time. Such a beautiful day today…It is great to be a Yellow Jacket.

Joe

November 4th, 2009
1:02 pm

hey Copach Richt: read this….as much as i detest Urban this is the difference between our program and theirs
Why? “Complacency,” Meyer said. “We want them to understand that they cannot, for one minute, take credit for what last year’s team did. If they want to compete for another national championship, they have to earn it.”ead this

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
1:03 pm

AZ. Glad I could help. We just made the turn. Should we wait on you?

archangeladidas

November 4th, 2009
1:04 pm

Excuses, excuses, excuses! I have another excuse for you sorry garbagedawgs……..Brandon Spikes! GO GATORS!!!

crs

November 4th, 2009
1:06 pm

Reality – You will not win 10 games every year playing an SEC schedule, a renewed Tech and atleast one solid other non conference. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.

Reality is Stafford leaving threw off the program as much as any of the other stuff, for example, poor D, o-line struggles, etc.

This team with Stafford would not have this turnover margin, would run the ball better and the D would be on the field far less.

Georgia and Richt hoped this team could run the ball and pass strategically early with the hope Cox would grow and get more comfortable and you open the playbook midseason. They also hoped by running the ball and controlling the clock they could keep the D fresh and keep them off the field. None of this worked out.

5 star qbs do not want to come to UGA and back up for more than a year. So when you have a 5 star kid in the program it is going to be tough to get another one.

This is going to be a situation every 4 or 5 years forever.

Whats the difference between UGA and Bama this year? Bama runs the ball with authority with a nasty oline and they play good D. This allows Bama to hide McElroy.

AZ Jacket

November 4th, 2009
1:06 pm

No need to wait. Have a great day…enjoy the discussion.

alsim

November 4th, 2009
1:08 pm

You Tech fans are so pathetic. You are the biggest bandwagon jumpers in the world.
Every generation or so there are a few years where Tech is better than UGA and you idiots come out of the wood works and talk smack.
Just wait a few years, Paul Johnson will leave for a better job and you’ll be back in the cellar again.

.

gt

November 4th, 2009
1:09 pm

Mr. B,

The best article I have read about this subject. Very thoughtful and analytical.And accurate.

Calhoundawg

November 4th, 2009
1:11 pm

I wish I were an Urban Meyer weiner. That is what I’d truly love to be. ‘Cause if I were an Urban Meyer weiner, everyone would be in love with me.

Afternoon Links | MrSEC.com

November 4th, 2009
1:12 pm

[...] Pat Dooley of The Gainesville Sun ranks the SEC, too.7.  Tony Barnhart of The AJC lists five questions that Richt should ask himself during the offseason.8.  Mike Griffith of The Knoxville News Sentinel got a coach from one of [...]

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
1:12 pm

ALSIM. The love affair may be over sooner than you think. ESPN is reporting that a certain midwestern school is starting to knock on the door. Somebody just tell PJ to check with George before he gives them anything in writing.

a

November 4th, 2009
1:13 pm

Tony,

I think the scheduling thing hits it right on the head. I don’t care who you are, you’ve got to have a couple “no-brainer” games to get the juices flowing. Every top-tier team does it (yes, Tech fans, even you had a Jacksonville State). I can’t remember another Georgia year in recent memory where we didn’t do that.

For all you Florida fans on here: you’re a good team. Maybe the best (but I still think Texas is better). No one’s taking that away from you. So go be good on your own message boards.

And for all you Tech fans on here: run this kind of success for a decade, then we’ll be impressed.

It says something when you can have an 8-4, or a 7-5, season and be outraged. We’ve built our program to high standards, and I have no doubt this year is the exception to the rule – which Tony did a great job in pointing out here.

Go Dawgs! This season’s not lost. Beat Auburn and BEAT TECH!

Brandon Spikes

November 4th, 2009
1:14 pm

” I says I’se gwann to Atlanta and gwann to Atlanta I is!

VolNation

November 4th, 2009
1:15 pm

We love Mark Richt. Keep him and Willie Martinez, at least for one more year while we break in a freshmen QB Tyler Bray.

Northern sympathizer

November 4th, 2009
1:15 pm

I agree with John’s post above. Any idiot can see that Georgia is getting the talent. Tony thinks it’s an “assessment problem”, in affect blaming the players for the 09 debacle.

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
1:16 pm

Gators for Richt, I love the name. That’s just too funny.

Calhoundawg, excellent post. I am sure we could pull one of those coaches away without any problem. Hell probably pick and choose those coaches to be the co-ordinators that we need.

Richt’s the best and he will will get it going again. He might need to dip his hand back into the play calling IMO. When he gets healthy we should wear AJ Green out. Make him earn his money. Best in the SEC that kid.

The scheduling is fine. The teams we played this year we are fully capable of beating. Just beat them and nobody would be complaining about it.

Also, Washaun, what a great kid. Has the fire and pep of the old #24, by the time he is done playing he will have done the dawgs proud.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
1:19 pm

alsim, that’s it? That’s all you got?! Bandwagon fans?! Coming from a pup fan?! Now THAT’S comedy!!! No mas! No mas!

Real World

November 4th, 2009
1:21 pm

Hey WTH—-GT runs a high school offense? What about the “high school offense” laying 45 on your sorry defense?

FAME

November 4th, 2009
1:22 pm

This may sound silly to some but go back and look at the rosters over Richt’s time.You know what’s missing more than anything?The country boys…the little town kids who would run thru a plate glass door to play for UGA.Let’s not try to turn this into some kind of racial slight…I’m just saying those kids from the small towns play with a lot of fire because they have a chip on their shoulder.I think we put too much emphasis on metro ATL talent…there was a time there when TENN seemed to own ATL and did great but this is now…take a peep at Bama and LSU their rosters esp BAMA are chock full of the small town country boys.Big city kids go to UGA to make it to the pros….small town kids go to UGA because they love the fact they will be representing GA.Laugh it off if you want but when you analyze the rosters under CMR most of our best players came from small towns!!Look it up

Bud

November 4th, 2009
1:22 pm

VolNation… don’t worry we’ll break him in! Is he one of yall’s helicopter recruits?

Tide Rising

November 4th, 2009
1:23 pm

Intersting article in the birmingham news today regarding recruiting and who has under and overachieved with their talent. Georgia is a consensus #4 overall in recruiting from 2005-2009 classes. Tech is something like 51st but is top 10. Dogs definitely have the talent but like I said earlier the skill position talent like qb or rb can be hit or miss. Richt will undoubtedly be getting rid of martinez and probably a couple other guys and have brighter days ahead next year.

Lord of The Lizards

November 4th, 2009
1:23 pm

One of the biggest reasons that the Dawg Nation finds itself where it is today is because they are always trying to focus on external factors as to why they lose when they lose…One week it’s the Refs , another week it’s a great big ol SEC conspiracy favoring other teams, yet another it’s Brandon Spikes etc etc. You will never improve yourself if you are always blaming others. Recruiting is surely not the problem. According to THEM, they ALWAYS get the best players!

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
1:24 pm

This just in, Georgia just accepted an invitation to play in the Poulan Weedeater Bowl in Northern Louisiana (Shreveport). As a payout, Georgia will receive $990,000 and 75 free weedwackers, one for every Parks and Recreation Major in the program.

Georgia Tech will play in THEIR conference championship game (sunny Tampa Florida) in hopes of advancing to the BCS Orange Bowl (sunnier Miami Florida). As a payout, Georgia Tech could receive $1,490,000 and 75 free deep sea fishing excursions. Georgia Tech plans to watch georgia’s bowl game on December 28th from its hotel over looking Key Largo.

Look at the Weedwackers falling from the sky!
Look at the Weedwackers falling from the sky!

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
1:24 pm

HBTD, sounds like we might be losing our coach to a mid-western school…..EXCEPT for the fact that CPJ took the GT job because he ‘knew’ he could get it done here…so far, so good. He wanted to move his family back to the peach state….done. CPJ won’t leave until he adds another national championship to the GT trophy case…THEN we’ll have 5 and the mutts will STILL only have two!

WTH

November 4th, 2009
1:25 pm

HBTD is quiet a guy, he can blog, check out espn and play golf at the same time.

Reality check

November 4th, 2009
1:25 pm

Face it UGA, you won SEC championships in down years for all the other SEC powerhouses. You don’t have the mentality, talent or drive to do it unless Alabama, Florida, LSU, and now SC and Tennessee fall flat again. Get used to mediocre seasons, why do you think its going to get better next year? UGA looks like a bottom tier team for at least a few years to come.

Willie

November 4th, 2009
1:26 pm

Do you expect this kind of team from a coach making 4.4 million dollars? If so, I need a job working for you with this kind of salary. I always heard you pay for what you get….I guess that’s another liberal lie.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
1:26 pm

FAME, I agree with your assessment!!! THAT’S the passion that seems to have faded in Athens!

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
1:26 pm

RealWorld. Regardless, it’s still just a tricked up HS offense. Sorry!

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
1:26 pm

ugablows

November 4th, 2009
10:15 am

everyone always points to Richts earlier success, but have you ever considered that maybe he was NEVER really a great coach? he was just leaching off a great D-coordinator and Donnan’s great recruits?

Donnan’s last class was 2003 LOL LOL I get so tired of this argument

BCS bound

November 4th, 2009
1:26 pm

ARCHANGELADIDAS – you hit the nail right on the head. That’s all it is excuses, they are already talking about next year while the Gators are fighting for another BCS Title. KerryB is totally reaching on his excuse of why the Dawgs lost. Coach Smith needs some more coaching and seems to be a Florida coach as he knows who is leaving and who is not.

GT4LIFE

November 4th, 2009
1:26 pm

Fame that’s an interesting take but you know country boys can’t read and write all that well!lol…joking…well sort of.

John

November 4th, 2009
1:27 pm

crs
Your point regarding scheduling is well-taken. So the current system incents programs to pack the discretionary slots in their schdules with powderpuffs – why not, they won’t be penalized for it?

So UGA travels to Stillwater to grapple with a top 10 opponent. At the same time, the Gators roll outta their bunks, rub the sleep from their eyes and shuffle across the street and kick the crap out of a glorified pop-warner team.

A game’s a game in the eyes of the pollsters.

Beleive me, I ain’t holding a pity party for Georgia. They were masters at this for years – although not quite as egregious in their offenses as Florida is.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
1:27 pm

WTH. At UGA, we learn to multitask.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
1:27 pm

Reality check

November 4th, 2009
1:25 pm

Face it UGA, you won SEC championships in down years for all the other SEC powerhouses. You don’t have the mentality, talent or drive to do it unless Alabama, Florida, LSU, and now SC and Tennessee fall flat again. Get used to mediocre seasons, why do you think its going to get better next year? UGA looks like a bottom tier team for at least a few years to come.

Similar to how Tech is going to win the ACC ?

Willie

November 4th, 2009
1:29 pm

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
1:27 pm
Does that mean you can play offense and defense in the same game?

hmmm

November 4th, 2009
1:29 pm

Question #6: When will Richt be fired?

WTH

November 4th, 2009
1:30 pm

And I guess tell a lie or two.

Burdell

November 4th, 2009
1:31 pm

Let’s hope this all pans out…except the projected loss to Pitt in the Orange Bowl.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-11-03/georgia-tech-no-1-among-college-footballs-one-loss-teams

GO JACKETS!! BEAT THE DEACONS!!

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
1:32 pm

Macro. Of course PJ knew he could win at tech. He’s competing in the ACC. Beat Clemson and he can stroll through the remainder of the conference schedule. What a joke! LOL

RodneyGT

November 4th, 2009
1:33 pm

Tony

You’re an idiot. Either you just have UGAg so far up your behind you don’t know what’s going on or are just too ignorant to want to represent the facts. Your “King vs Dwyer” is complete hogwash. Yes, Dwyer is the better RB, hel1 he’s the best RB in the state and one of the top three best in the country. But there are four other RB’s on Tech’s roster that are all better than UGA’s as well.

Fact is, Dwyer had NO intentions of ever going to UGAg. He was raised a Tech fan. Get your facts straight Tony.

BIGBOY

November 4th, 2009
1:34 pm

Yellow fuzz I guess your closet is full of all those free starbucks mugs you got from going to Seattle to play in the emerald bowl huh?

Go DOGS

November 4th, 2009
1:34 pm

“Sometimes head coaches must shake up the staff to send a message to everybody—players, trainers, water boys and other coaches—that mediocrity won’t be tolerated. It’s tough to do. But the great coaches do it when necessary.”

What about THE water girl????

GT Man

November 4th, 2009
1:36 pm

I am loving our team this year but I know once gailey’s skill players leave we are in trouble!

John

November 4th, 2009
1:36 pm

Lord of The Gators,
You should thank your lucky stars that we UGA fans whine and complain as we do. If you didn’t have us to hate and ridicule, what reason would the Florida-Georgia game pique evne a minutes-worth of your interest?

This “rivalry” has been a farce for over 20 years. And in my opinion, we as Dawg fans are wont to place the blame everywhere except where it belongs. Right ‘chere in Athens.

On the other hand, you Tebow-worshipping lemmings make me want to puke.

BWAHAHAHA

November 4th, 2009
1:37 pm

4-4 BWAHAHAHAHA
Be nice if the snuggle buddies aka; Shultz, Barnhart, King, AJC sports talkies could write about something other than cry over the mutts losing. Seems they are on the UGAy payroll and can’t get their noses out of each others butt….

GSU Eagle 91

November 4th, 2009
1:38 pm

Tony: UGA’s out-of-conference schedule has been nothing short of lame for 40 years now…The OK ST game was UGA’s first non-conference road trip against a top ten team since Dooley took his Dawgs up to Michigan in the 1960’s. Meanwhile, UT has been playing the likes of Miami, Notre Dame and UCLA in recent years. It is about exposure, and Georgia will not get the national respect it wants from other areas until it earns it on the field…
Schedule home and home vs Oklahoma, or Texas, or USC.If your team is good enough they can win. The SEC has many weak sisters right now that do not add up to a “brutal” schedule…

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
1:38 pm

Willie. Oh no, I never played football, but I sure stayed busy with all the pretty coeds. 1000’s of them. Everywhere. I guess you could say it was kind of like playing offense and defense at the same time. How bout you? Any girls over at tech? If so, I never seem to see them at the games except for the imported cheerleaders and dancers from the local area schools.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
1:39 pm

RodneyGT

November 4th, 2009
1:33 pm

Tony

You’re an idiot. Either you just have UGAg so far up your behind you don’t know what’s going on or are just too ignorant to want to represent the facts. Your “King vs Dwyer” is complete hogwash. Yes, Dwyer is the better RB, hel1 he’s the best RB in the state and one of the top three best in the country. But there are four other RB’s on Tech’s roster that are all better than UGA’s as well.

Fact is, Dwyer had NO intentions of ever going to UGAg. He was raised a Tech fan. Get your facts straight Tony.

your rant is cute but UGA was in Dwyers top 5 choices. Nice try though

QB1?

November 4th, 2009
1:40 pm

QB Controversy hitting theatres in Athens, 2010.

TG

November 4th, 2009
1:40 pm

fuzz you are too much. hahaha. How do you seem to stick and turn that knife a little more with each sentence? Hahaha.

hmmm

November 4th, 2009
1:40 pm

Richt likes Cox

Dawgs73

November 4th, 2009
1:41 pm

Tony, I think your article should have been titled Five Excuses for Mark Richt’s poor coaching.
1.) Talent evaluation. I am sure that the these same players would be as woeful under Richt as they would be under Meyer, Saban, Miles, or Paul Johnson
2.) Schedule – UGA should go back to their “cupcake schedule” because winners love to make excuses about playing 7 BCS schools to start the season. I am sure the above state coaches would cry about this as well.
3.) Conditioning – When in doubt blame your conditioning program/coordinator
4.) Coaching players up to their potential – Oh, isn’t that what Richt is getting paid $2 mill a year to do…my bad for expecting him to do his job
5.) Stepping up his game – See answer # 4
I am a die hard UGA fan, but I am also objective in regards to the programs performance. I believe that every fan expects/wants its team to compete at the very highest level. If it takes an overhaul of most if not all of the staff, then we as fans expect it. Why would we as fans expect our team to underperform and under achieve? The answer is simple, STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND START MAKING PROGRESSIVE CHANGES NOW!

WTH

November 4th, 2009
1:44 pm

HBTD,

While you playing with all those coeds, were you playing golf, blogging, surfing the web, watching ESPN, etc. etc. From all your delusions, I would guess that you also did a lot of drugs while you were at UGA.

TybeeDawg

November 4th, 2009
1:44 pm

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
1:46 pm

HBTD, of COURSE that’s your response…it’s ALL you have…funny that you left out your little leg humpers! Now, THAT’S a joke!!!

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
1:48 pm

Enough with UGAG Ugay Leg Humpers. It is all played out tech fans. learn some new insults. Watch this I can do the same thing Gay Tech School that has an insect as their mascot. PLAYED OUT

RainbowRandy

November 4th, 2009
1:48 pm

I love YellowFuzz….I’d like to get some of his 22 year old young tail down here in Midtown….what a hottie!

WTH

November 4th, 2009
1:49 pm

HBTD

That is if you even went to UGA. I really doubt it because most UGA Alums have more class than you.

BIGBOY

November 4th, 2009
1:49 pm

I saw where Meyer said he has no intention of playing a loaded schedule…he says the SEC is enough and Fla will not be emulating UGA and Tenn when it comes to scheduling…he might just have a point.

RodneyGT

November 4th, 2009
1:49 pm

Taylor

Ha..yes, UGAg was in the top 5 for Dwyer…along with Ok St, Michigan, FSU, Auburn….give me a break. UGAg had no chance of getting Jonathon Dwyer.

I guess two years from now you’ll be telling me how UGAg and Mark Richt specifically dropped the ball on getting Charles Perkins away from Georgia Tech too…..”he was in the top 5″….good lord.

Got 12?

November 4th, 2009
1:49 pm

Isn’t it a sin to covet another program’s head coach, offensive coordinator, drive, heart, and success?

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
1:50 pm

WTH. No drugs for this dawg. Just good, fun, clean living. I realize that’s kind of a difficult concept for most tech fans to grasp.

The real problem in recruiting

November 4th, 2009
1:50 pm

Rodney Garner only recruits specific types of kids……who help create the lack of discipline. More like lack of character

Gdawg 84

November 4th, 2009
1:50 pm

Hey Techsters:
Your team is better than ours. We all recognize this. Nobody is arguing with you.

Your constant demand for attention and love would be pathetic for a 2 year old. It seems obvious that the recent football success of your alma mater has not brought you an ounce of happiness.

Revel in your success, not our misery. Grow up and move on.

Just A Comment

November 4th, 2009
1:50 pm

Seems to me a Coach who coordinates touchdown celebrations instead of his offense and defense has lost his edge and his team. Throw-in a concern for a fashion statement instead of concern for a scoreboard statement and well nuff said 5 Things To Do or not.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
1:51 pm

Taylor, as opposed to the clever little word….nerd? Pocket protectors? Gay Tech?

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
1:51 pm

WTH

November 4th, 2009
1:49 pm

HBTD

That is if you even went to UGA. I really doubt it because most UGA Alums have more class than you.

Tech fans bring it on themselves. I would love just for once to be able to talk football without having to weed out all the name calling and childish behavior

Big time?? Not

November 4th, 2009
1:51 pm

Four tickets, four hot dogs, four cokes

Risque Ralph

November 4th, 2009
1:52 pm

hey yellow fuzz….come on down to Midtown and join in on the “circle”.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
1:52 pm

Gdawg 84, suck it up…we’re just returning the favor

GeorgiaSouthernEagles

November 4th, 2009
1:53 pm

Taylor

You appear to be the typical UGA fan. A complete idiot that spouts off and doesn’t know what they are saying.

Georgia Tech has the best head coach, not only in this state…but in the top 5 in the country. Paul Johnson will stick the series up UGA’s a$$ for the next few years. He’ll also rack up getting the state’s top running backs who are going to want to go to a school that KNOWS how to run the ball. Should be fun.

crs

November 4th, 2009
1:53 pm

Stop with the salary BS. In nine years, Mark has won the SEC twice, played in a third championship, was deserving on two occasions of NC consideration, athletic department is raking in record profits in large part from what Mark has accomplished.

Your jealous of what he makes because you don’t.

Is Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise worth $20 and $30 million for making a film? Yes, because thats what the industry pays! Mark makes that much because thats what his industry pays, plain and simple.

Some of you must have some seriously miserable lives at home to moan and groan about 1 lackluster GA season. Enjoy the fall days, enjoy AJ Green, enjoy a little redheaded kid throwing 5 tds in one game.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
1:53 pm

RodneyGT

November 4th, 2009
1:49 pm

Taylor

Ha..yes, UGAg was in the top 5 for Dwyer…along with Ok St, Michigan, FSU, Auburn….give me a break. UGAg had no chance of getting Jonathon Dwyer.

I guess two years from now you’ll be telling me how UGAg and Mark Richt specifically dropped the ball on getting Charles Perkins away from Georgia Tech too…..”he was in the top 5″….good lord.

Funny you say this. I have sources that might say different, but I’ll leave it at that. I assume you two are close though?

[...] Tony Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution takes a look at five questions facing Georgia coach Mark Richt. [...]

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
1:57 pm

I disagree GeorgiaSouthern guy. I hate to tell you but A UGA grad will get a lot farther than a southern grad in this world if you want to get personal about it. Why would elite running backs keep coming here? I am sorry but this offense does not translate to people who want to play in the NFL. The reason the offense works is mainly because of Nesbit. He is so tough. Good luck getting that from jaybow shaw

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
1:58 pm

Gdawg 84: I’m only 22….what the heck do you expect from me. I’m trying!

RodneyGT

November 4th, 2009
1:59 pm

Taylor

Now you’re going to pull the “I have sources” crap. Unless your on the coaching staff at either school, then just STFU. What a complete tool.

Just keep playing up the moral victories of UGAg being in the top 5 of each of Georgia Tech’s recruits that ACTUALLY turn into something in college instead of falling to the wayside. Maybe ya’ll can be on running back number 5 starting a game by the end of the year? Should be exciting to watch that train wreck.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
1:59 pm

Taylor, “I would love just for once to be able to talk football without having to weed out all the name calling and childish behavior”….. TWO MINUTES later?!

Taylor, “I have sources that might say different, but I’ll leave it at that. I assume you two are close though?”….NICE!!!

Gdawg 84

November 4th, 2009
2:01 pm

Thanks Fuzz. Hang in there!

GeorgiaSouthernEagles

November 4th, 2009
2:03 pm

Taylor

Your proving you know little. Jaybo Shaw is NOT in Tech’s plans. After Nesbitt (yes…it’s NESBITT…learn how to spell it) leaves next year, Jordan Luallen will take over at QB. CPJ broght him in this year’s class and he was a four star quarterback recruit. He’s also 6′4 215 pounds right now…good luck with that in a couple years. He can actually throw too.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:03 pm

Macro I see at no point where I used any name calling towards Rodney. Also Rodney, my stepdad is friend’s with Dwyer’s mom and he was considering UGA, but that is really irrelevant now. I am not playing any moral victories however I do see almost 60 victories against tech compared to 30 something for tech and 7 out of 8,but please continue to jump up and down about one win.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
2:04 pm

Macro. Your tone throughout this blog sounds like that of so many tech supporters………………..INSECURE. Why?
Your teams doing very well this year. Just look at their wins (we want talk about the Miami beatdown) against D2 school J State + wins over traditional powerhouses Miss. State, Vandy, FS I haven’t got a clue, Va (1st road win since 1990) always powerful (at least in basketball) NC, Va tech (even though they’ve now folded they were # 4 when tech played them) and Clemson was certainly a good win even though PJ had to run a tricked up play off the time out and you got a little home cooking on a phantum hold. Surely you can beat WF and then there will be the showdown for the Coastal division championship against DUKE!! Whoooo. That should really be a thriller!!

Ok. So you want a little respect. Better start playing a legitimate D1 schedule.

Still a Dawg Fan

November 4th, 2009
2:04 pm

How do you spell relief for an ailing offense?

******U-G-A-D-E-F-E-N-S-E******************

Quit offering to high school juniors.Most of these h.s. juniors don’t get any better.Hard to evaluate a h.s. junior.

Most of the better players don’t develope until their senior year of h.s.

ex: Thomas Davis-had one DII offer before Van Gorder saw him ,David Pollock,(two of out best)

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:05 pm

Why do you know so much about them Georgia southern guy? Sidewalk Alumni much?

GToption

November 4th, 2009
2:06 pm

Taylor is just an inbred UGA fan guys…I wouldn’t worry about what he thinks.

We do have Jordan Luallen being redshirted this year that will take over after 2010. He’s big and can throw and run. Was a four star QB out of Indy. The future looks bright at Georgia Tech guys…very bright.

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
2:06 pm

Big time?? Not:

“Four tickets, four hot dogs, four cokes”.

They are running this special right now for the Weedwacker Bowl that YOU are playing in.

Priceless !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:08 pm

GToption

November 4th, 2009
2:06 pm

Taylor is just an inbred UGA fan guys…I wouldn’t worry about what he thinks.

We do have Jordan Luallen being redshirted this year that will take over after 2010. He’s big and can throw and run. Was a four star QB out of Indy. The future looks bright at Georgia Tech guys…very bright.

HAHAHAHAHA Of course. What else could I expect from a tech fan. stereotypical use of the word inbred

GeorgiaSouthernEagles

November 4th, 2009
2:08 pm

Why do I know so much about them?

Paul Johnson is their coach. He coached here. He coached at Navy. He was a top assistant at Hawaii. Everywhere he has been has continued to follow and pull for Johnson based on the success he brought each program. We know he’s one of the best coaches in the country. He’ll do GREAT things at Georgia Tech.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
2:08 pm

Taylor. There other favorite word is “delusional”.

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
2:09 pm

Still a dawg fan

Dude, I hate to be the one to break it to you but Thomas Davis, Van Gorder, David Pollock, Hershal and Lindale Scott “ain’t” there any more.

crs

November 4th, 2009
2:09 pm

gerogiasoutherneagles,

First, i am a big CPJ fan. Good coach, good man.

That said, the expectations for Tech were zero last year. Any kind of any anything would have been well recieved.

This year, Tech has an exceptional offense and a D that rivals the the worst defenses in DIV 1. Lets see where they finish before you start making these proclamations of long term success.

Tech has two exceptional offensive players named Josh Nesbitt and Johnathon Dwyer. They are both warriors. They are also both Chan Gailey guys.

Lets see how tech does when they leave and JD most likely leaves this year.

Also, lets see if in a weak ACC whether Tech can even win the ACC this year.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:12 pm

Alright well enough with the name calling. I am willing to give tech props this year, they have a good thing running on offense, but it does not change the fact that they still have not beat a top 20 team and benefit from a down ACC ( you know like you all like to say UGA won everything when the SEC was down)

RodneyGT

November 4th, 2009
2:12 pm

Taylor

Ahhh…you did it buddy. Pulled the ol’ we have more series victories card. That’s as pathetic as Mark Richt spewing his resume out on his press conference yesterday. This is 2009. I could care less what happened in 1955..1971..1994…or 2004 for that matter. And if you really care that much, shows you have no confidence in the here and now. I also don’t spit off the score last year…that was last year. Georgia Tech is going to roll UGAg this year. I bet we hang 50 on you guys.

But why don’t you tell me what happened in 1947 again?

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
2:14 pm

Taylor,

“I am sorry but this offense does not translate to people who want to play in the NFL”

Really? Are you taking what Nancy Pelosi is taking? Send me some please.

Matt Stafford, Knowshon and MoMass would say different. All ROOKIES starting this year in the NFL. Hand full of other guys there playing in this system that will be going to the NFL.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:14 pm

I bet you are wrong Rodney. Be prepared for your season to be ruined. I have plenty on confidence in the here and now don’t you worry :)

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:15 pm

gdawginkalamazoo, I was talking about tech’s offense.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
2:16 pm

Taylor, sorry if I misunderstood your, “I’m sure you two are close” comment. It may have been a knee jerk reaction to the typical drivel of many dawg fans.

HBTD, truly, any sense of “insecurity” is invalid. I’ve been a proud Tech fan my entire life…win or lose, I enjoy the blogging bantor! You raise questions about our schedule, yet we’re in the top thirty by most polls in SOS…one has us at 12. The sec has two dominate teams with a possible third strong team in lsu…sadly, for you, the dawgs don’t figure into that. uga has the overall record against Tech, but that’s it. We have almost as many sec championships as the pups have and we haven’t been in that conference for quite a while! We have twice the number of national championships and we’re looking like we’re a LOT closer to adding another one before ya’ll do. I could go on, but, I’ll shorten it all up by saying…uga has created a great program known for filling their stadium with witnesses of a team that never seems to get it done. Inferiority? Not EVEN close!

pb

November 4th, 2009
2:16 pm

Enter your comments here

RodneyGT

November 4th, 2009
2:17 pm

Taylor

Virgina Tech was the 4th ranked team in the country when they were beat. UNC was ranked 21 and was dominated in every category. Get your facts straight.

bulldogmaniac

November 4th, 2009
2:17 pm

To the poster who suggested Will Muschamp…..
That would be GREAT but will never happen.
I work with Will’s brother (who btw played at Navy) and he told me that Will isnt going anywhere.
He’s getting paid big bucks at Texas and has already been promised the HC job there.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:18 pm

Rodney…well I guess that’s why they say it matters where you finish and not where you start. Ole Miss was a top 10 team. I would laugh if someone was telling me how they beat a “top ten ole miss team” now/

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:20 pm

What do Tech fans think about the matchup with duke? Young and that WR ( can’t think of his name) are really tearing it up. I don’t know about their defense though.

DerekCU

November 4th, 2009
2:20 pm

Taylor

Exactly what in the world have you been watching this year to have any reasonable conclusion to say that Georgia can compete with Georgia Tech? And I’m saying COMPETE, not even beat.

I’ve watched both teams in nearly every game. Georgia Tech has a shaky defense, I’ll give you that. SO does Georgia. But against this Georgia Tech offense you better score EVERY time you have the ball. Are you THAT confident in Georgia to do that?

Again, I don’t have a dog in the fight..I’m a Clemson fan…but, again…do YOU have that kind of confidence?

pb

November 4th, 2009
2:21 pm

Can’t wait to hear what yellow fuzz has to say about this; maybe he had to go to class? We’re waiting for the usual daily UGA slam. Sometimes the young man is funny, even if I don’t like or agree with what he says.

DerekCU

November 4th, 2009
2:23 pm

Taylor

“Rodney…well I guess that’s why they say it matters where you finish and not where you start. Ole Miss was a top 10 team. I would laugh if someone was telling me how they beat a “top ten ole miss team” now/”

That’s the stupidest comment yet. So now it’s only what top 10 teams at the end of the year has your team beat? Well since the top 10 is filled with Boise, TCU, Cincy, Texas, etc…we probably won’t be able to say we’ve beaten any….neither would anyone else.
What a stupid comment.

Wanna go back and look at how many top 10 teams UGA has beat over the last say five years even?????

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
2:23 pm

Macro. Then why do you and your ilk constantly feel the need to weigh in on a Georgia topic (I realize this is not a Georgia blog) as a forum to defend your program? That to me is a clear sign of an inferiority complex stemming from an insecurity about the respect,or lack thereof, that you believe your program is receiving. I’m sure the fans at Boise, TCU and Cinncinati all feel the same as you and many of your tech brethern, i.e. you’re crying out for respect on blogs like this one that no one will give you because of your schedule. Let’s face it, if GT loses to an unranked and bad UGA this year, the other wins mean nothing.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
2:24 pm

HBTD must be looking for his golf ball in the woods

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:24 pm

Derek, I think clemson and a lot of other teams showed everyone that people can compete with tech. Freaking Vandy was allowed to hang around for 3 quarters and lead.

DerekCU

November 4th, 2009
2:25 pm

Clemson has beat more top 10 teams than Georgia Taylor. Period. Stupid, stupid comment.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:25 pm

DerekCU

November 4th, 2009
2:23 pm

Taylor

“Rodney…well I guess that’s why they say it matters where you finish and not where you start. Ole Miss was a top 10 team. I would laugh if someone was telling me how they beat a “top ten ole miss team” now/”

That’s the stupidest comment yet. So now it’s only what top 10 teams at the end of the year has your team beat? Well since the top 10 is filled with Boise, TCU, Cincy, Texas, etc…we probably won’t be able to say we’ve beaten any….neither would anyone else.
What a stupid comment.

Wanna go back and look at how many top 10 teams UGA has beat over the last say five years even?????

Wanna do the same with clemson?

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
2:27 pm

Macro. Oh well. Maybe one day you’ll figure it out.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:27 pm

How is it a stupid comment? Just because you beat a team that was ranked high at one point means little. Like I said Ole MIss was in the top 10 at one point. FSU was in the top 20 and has a 500 record.

Stafford

November 4th, 2009
2:28 pm

MAYBE IT’S BECAUSE WE LOST Stafford, Moreno, and Massoqoui? Ever think that since we lost our entire offense, that maybe this is a ‘rebuilding year?’

Caleb King and Richard Samuel are busts. We have one weapon on offense now, so how could you realisically expect 8 or 9 wins this year? Silly STEREOTYPICAL Georgia fans.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:30 pm

Tech fans on Duke? anyone?

Will

November 4th, 2009
2:32 pm

Taylor

You really do put out alot of moronic comments.

Vandy played with Tech for three quarters?

It was 42-31 at the end of the third. Remember it was 28-28 at the half. They scored 56. Took the offense out early in the 4th. They could have easily scored 63, possibly 2TD’s had Johnson continued running the offense. Vandy hardly “hung’ around. They had 600 yards of offense with 400 yards of rushing.

Maybe that will look familiar in the Tech-UGA box score this year???

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
2:32 pm

HBTD, like I stated earlier…just returning the favor! I, for one, do not take that uga game, lightly! I’ve been saying all season that the dawgs lack leadership from within the player ranks…when they find that…they could be a force to reckon with! An earlier poster pointed out the ‘fact’ that uga has gotten away from recruiting the ‘good ole boys’ that would do anything for a uga win….I agree with him and see a football factory that is being used by the Staffords out there to get to the next level! I don’t blame him…but, uga needs guys that have bled red and black their whole lives and wouldn’t give up a year to jump pro! For the record, even IF we lost to uga…it would go down as a tough loss to an instate rivalry and we’d move on and focus on playing our bowl game. Of COURSE, that would give ya’ll something to brag about for the year…the right to do so would be yours! Right now, we’re enjoying OUR right to do so! GO TECH!!!

MVP Georgia always over rated

November 4th, 2009
2:32 pm

Tony anyone of you Bozos (you and Jeff) at the ajc asked CMR those questions? NO . man up and earn your money Ask the questions. Why have the questions here if you don’t have the balls to ask the questions to his face.

unbiased volfan

November 4th, 2009
2:33 pm

RodneyGT

November 4th, 2009
2:35 pm

Taylor

What’s your fascination with Duke? You think Duke has a stellar defense or something? Granted, they should be better than UGA, but still.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:37 pm

I’m not fascinated with them, I just cant talk about wake tech because there’s not much to talk about. They probably won’t even have skinner

Charles

November 4th, 2009
2:37 pm

Taylor- Please stop speakin on behalf of the bulldawg nation. You’re looking like a fool. Georgia Tech is going to wipe our a$$e$ this year. Just shutup.

Paddy

November 4th, 2009
2:37 pm

GTman, you don’t believe your own coach can recruit? Glad you are not a Dawg fan. Let me take a wild guess, you have never been to a GT game!

seabass

November 4th, 2009
2:39 pm

About two years ago Sports Illistrated SEC section had an article about UGA eventually winning a national championship under CMR. As a matter of fact it stated we, UGA, would win numerous national championships. It was inevitable. We’ve come along way in two years baby!

Dave

November 4th, 2009
2:39 pm

Taylor

I won’t call you an idiot. A UGA homer…yes. I’m worried about Wake, Duke, and Georgia. You have to be when one loss would really screw up your season. This is college football and ALL of them are capable of beating Georgia Tech. Miami did it. Although with the way Tech has clicked since, I don’t know that I’d bet on Miami a second time.

Anyway…good luck with your next three games…would certainly be more exciting if a UGA team came in that was a little better.

Taylor

November 4th, 2009
2:40 pm

Negative people like charles are no fun :(

RickyatTech

November 4th, 2009
2:41 pm

GTMan isn’t a Georgia Tech fan, obviously a UGAg guy acting pathetic.

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
2:43 pm

Taylor, my bad I guess I didn’t know you were talking about Tech’s offense. This being a “How to fix UGA” blog and all threw me off there.
This is the Fix UGA blog isn’t it?

59bulldawg

November 4th, 2009
2:45 pm

OK here’s a list of the the Georgia assistants.

Mike Bobo – OC
Willie Martinez – DC
Stacy Searels – Offensive line
Rodney Garner – Defensive line
Tony Ball – Wide Receivers
Jon Fabris – Defensive ends
John Jancek – Linebackers
John Lilly – Tight ends
Bryan McClendon – Running backs

If I’ve missed anybody feel free to add them. Most folks I’ve read on AJC blogs or talked to in person seem to want both Martinez and Bobo gone or at least Martinez gone and Bobo demoted back to QBs only. Who else needs to go? I’m almost to the point of asking all for resignations and then Richt taking back whoever he wants (but hopefully not WM. Who would you dismiss? Who would you want to hire? Any suggestions?

Papa Dawg

November 4th, 2009
2:45 pm

The Falcons game proved what the Dawgs are missing. Van Gorder made some adjustments at half time and held the Saints to 7 points. The Dawgs come out after halftime and play the same way they were being clobbered in the first half. No changes for the better means its all the coaches fault, period. Tech Geeks just go away. With your Jackets football team its one and done so run your mouth while you can the Dawgs will return

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
2:47 pm

georgia fans need to eat their crow and humble pie and shut their traps. Tech is ahead of you in every stat, poll and bowl consideration and the best you can do is STFU and try to beat us on November 28th. And I am not talking about just a 16 point halftime lead. I’m talking about growing a pair and finishing something you start like 45-42! I hope you can hear me.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
2:48 pm

Tony. Not sure I agree with all of your 5 questions for CMR, but one thing I am sure of after reading and writing on this particular blog for the last several hours is that the GT fan base is a HOPELESS bunch. Being a tech fan has got to be one misarable lot in life having to always try and keep up with the Big Dawg! Thanks for your thoughts today.

Bubba Dawg

November 4th, 2009
2:49 pm

Ouch yellow fuzz

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
2:49 pm

If Jon Dwyer stays, Tech graduates 3 starters: 2 OL and LB. Tech has 8 RBs in the rotation.

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
2:51 pm

HBTD, THAT was a lame way to bow out…all you’ve done today is litter this blog with your “delusional” thoughts….

Yellow Fuzz, you’ll have fun with HBTD….he’s easy!

revwreck

November 4th, 2009
2:51 pm

I am a tech fan to the core, although not one that has to kick UGA when they are down. If I have heard it once from my dawg friends this year I have heard it 100 times…”now we know how the Jackets feel” and yes it’s true and it hurts to lose, but CMR is a good coach and before we got CPJ everytime a dawg said fire CMR all my GT friends said we’ll take him….it can get worse, but if needed Chan is looking for a job…we would enjoy the wins.

Atticus

November 4th, 2009
2:51 pm

Honestly….I am at the point of not reading the blogs anymore. It’s the same people over and over making the same comments back and forth. Can anyone not ad anything meaningful anymore?

shards1967

November 4th, 2009
2:51 pm

Too little and too late for me. IF we do not make complete coaching staff ( incl Richt ) changes, then this exact time next year we will be blogging the same ole stuff. Change it after the season is over, then re tool. It is that easy.

Besides, the days of a 25 year coaching stay like Dooley had, have been over for years in business and coaching. We want a coach to come in and win quickly like ALL of OUR COMPETITORS have done and if the guy wants to leave for a richer job or the NFL, say bye bye and hire another. THIS IS the way to run a big time program. I would love to see a guy come in and by 2011 and 2012 have won maybe two SEC titles and at least played for the NC. If he leaves …we got our money’s worth out of him. That is the proper way to proceed. We get another.

In the old days you preached stability because the players STAYED ON for at least four years. Today? The bolt for the NFL …………so we should hire coaches that may be very mobile and simply not care.

We all know what has to happen and come November 4, 2010 I fear is, the only change will be in the liberal congressmen in love with Obama that are gonna get blown out like that NJ Governor and in Virginia were last night.

UGA, class of 71 & 73

TJ Vol

November 4th, 2009
2:51 pm

Keep Richt, Bobo & Martinez…..They are doing a great job! Its just a down year….I’m sure one day Bobo will out scheme Monty or Martinez will out scheme Lane….

59bulldawg

November 4th, 2009
2:54 pm

Right TJ! If I were you I’d probably want the same!

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
2:55 pm

I find it hilarious that with GT’s success this season, UGA football is still the biggest story in the sports media in Atlanta. That should tell you nerds something…

Bubba Dawg

November 4th, 2009
2:56 pm

Delbo,

How many times does it have to be said. IT’S NOT JUST THE PLAYERS, it’s our “gimick” system that just took ownership of you. YOU have better players and more of them but we have the better team, end of story. It doesn’t matter how many we graduate next year, we “finally” have the depth to consistently reload and a system in place that maximizes instead of minimizes individual talent. get used to it and like it duse, georgia will be our bitch for the next few years! I’ll tell you when things change!

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
2:57 pm

Leslie Chow, it DOES tell us something….it reads like a comedy!!! AND, that GT needs to add a degree program in journalism!!!

Bubba's Tanning Salon

November 4th, 2009
3:00 pm

This is amazing, ever since these ford commercials with coach richt, we have been getting flooded with business and people wanting their hair and eyebrows bleached. Keep the commercials going, we are in tanning bed heaven!!!

TedT

November 4th, 2009
3:01 pm

Who is the defensive coordinator? Who is the defensive back/safety coach? WILLIE MARTINEZ!!!! Why can’t our defensive backs & safeties cover road kill? Willie Martinez!!! Why can’t out defensive players tackle anything that breathes? Willie Martinez!!!

If Mark Richt is too decent of a human being to be the HEAD COACH of the Georgia Bulldogs and he chooses to fall on his sword by keeping Willie Manilly — then we need another coach. Willie Martinez could not call numbers in a Bingo hall — let alone teach/call defenses that can win football games.

Mark Richt is one of the most decent human beings on this earth — but it’s time he realizes that Willie Martinez needs to go.

Patrick

November 4th, 2009
3:01 pm

revwreck, thanks for the post. Nice to see that all GT fans are not smug and abusive. I’m a UGA fan but really like to watch the Jackets run the football and controll the clock. That’s the way the game is meant to be played – reminds me of Nebraska teams back in the mid 1990s. I hope GT wins out and gets a chance at the big dance but a lot of things have to fall in place in order for that to happen. Anyway, it’s nice to see one football team from Georgia that plays to win.

gatorman770

November 4th, 2009
3:02 pm

Is there any coincidence that in the early 2000s, during the Zook years, that Florida decided to “spread the Gator brand” by playing some of the same westcoast and mountain conference teams that UGA has recently started scheduling and the Gators ended up with 8 win seasons????

DontMessWitTex

November 4th, 2009
3:05 pm

Leslie Chow, you sound like a complete imbecile calling the tech fans nerds. Its just as hard to get into ugay than it is gt, that whole nerds thing is so 20 years ago fella. Im just happy Im a Longhorns alum, I personally wouldnt choose to go to either tech or ugay.

revwreck

November 4th, 2009
3:07 pm

Patrick
Thanks we GT fans that are my age have had BAD years and we know the truth…UGA will be back sooner than later and the realist just hope its not this year to ruin our year…the yound band wagon folks that post…none of us need or want

Johnny Test

November 4th, 2009
3:09 pm

For the quitters the season is over.
There are 4 games left… How good a coach is CMR if he finds a way to win them? Not likely but possible…
Tech is our bowl game this year as far as I am concerned and if by some miracle we could win that game it would be the sweetest victory over Tech since 1958. It would totally (no matter what they say) screw up their otherwise stellar year.

Fld Oucker

November 4th, 2009
3:09 pm

Tex, your actually right on that. Let us all come together and rejoice, DAWGS SUCK!! Richt is a “nice guy” who aint gettin it dun out there in the cow pastures. BINGO!!!!

Bubba's Tanning Salon

November 4th, 2009
3:14 pm

Honestly though this is amazing, ever since these ford commercials with coach richt, we have been getting flooded with business and people wanting their hair and eyebrows bleached, and orange tans to go with it! Keep the commercials going, Bubba here is happier than a retarrd in a room full of bouncy balls!!! O O O O O OOO O O OOOOO

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
3:18 pm

Yellow Fuzz grew a pair from a 3 point win from last year! STFU? LMFAO is more like it. I don’t care how the next three game go, but one thing for sure I wouldn’t want to be the bees on the flats in November. These Dawgs ain’t happy about this year and one thing to cure some of the ills will be to smack you bugs down.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
3:22 pm

It tells me that GT is hanging on by the skin of it’s teeth pretty much zero wins over quality teams. And don’t come back with that VT game either, you didn’t see South Carolina pounding their chests after beating Ole Miss. It also tells me that even in a down year, UGA football is still a more important story.

And the nerd thing NEVER gets old. I have a lot of friends that graduated from Tech, they openly admit they are nerds.

Only two things come from Texas buddy…

MeyerVille

November 4th, 2009
3:23 pm

Richt will never outrecruit, outprepare or outcoach meyer or saban. He will not win another SEC title. His only 2 titles came in years when Fl and Bama were down. The dawgs better hope meyer takes the ND job and Saban goes back to the NFL.

BoooyKnee Lomax

November 4th, 2009
3:23 pm

I would absolutely love to see UGA get their buts kicked against Tennessesse Tech this weekend, talk about a laughing riot, HAHA oh HAHA oh HAHA oh HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Papa Dawg

November 4th, 2009
3:24 pm

Had my septic tank cleaned out the other day and guess what was clogging it. YELLOW FUZZ

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
3:24 pm

Leslie Chow, not sure uga could beat ANY of the teams on our schedule….THIS year!

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
3:25 pm

TedT, actually he could. There’s a bingo hall in Detroit looking for someone to call the numbers. Their caller just got shipped down to the Redskins to run their offense. I am scouting the bingo halls and casinos for a new D coordinator for us. Haven’t found anything yet. I will try the strip clubs next. That might take awhile though, I’ll get back to you in 2012. I am taking donations ($1 bills only) to help fund this new D coordinator search.

ManUp

November 4th, 2009
3:28 pm

realSugarHillDawg – we will see. Now go dig up a bone and chew on it.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
3:30 pm

Yes MacroNerd, we played the team you guys gave up 31 points to last week with our under coached defense and I’m pretty sure they didn’t close to sniffing 20.

Jimmy Benham

November 4th, 2009
3:32 pm

this is the reason Richt HAS become a bad coach since winning 2 SEC titles: “players tend to play the way they’ve been coached. If they play sloppy, then they’ve been coached sloppy. Excessive penalties and turnovers are a sign of some sloppiness in the program.”

Got 12?

November 4th, 2009
3:33 pm

Before the season started, UGA were bragging about playing a tough schedule, playing real teams, leaving the South to play, etc. Now that the losing has started, UGA fans are complaining about playing mediocre BCS teams from other conferences.

GeorgiaSouthernEagles

November 4th, 2009
3:34 pm

Gosh,

I wish my degree included learning the difference between “your” and “you’re”.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
3:40 pm

My bad… In regards to “quality wins”, congrats on finally winning at Virginia this year. You guys get rings for that one??

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
3:46 pm

Leslie Chow! “MacroNerd”?!….Your cleverness is to be admired! Good win! We beat them by 25…it’s understood that our defense can be lacking. We knew this going into the season. We just ratchet up the offense to make up for it.

In truth, I hate that uga is not doing so well! We’re finally putting together a program that will be able to compete with the dawgs and ya’ll are having a down year. I don’t believe that this will be a constant with the dawgs. I contend that the dawgs are lacking leadership within the player ranks…once, it’s found; the dawgs will be tough! I don’t think that GT will rally off enough wins to clear the deficit in the next twenty years…but, I DO believe we’ll be chipping away at it!

on the head

November 4th, 2009
3:46 pm

Everyone Forgets that Stafford and Moreno are gone to the NFL. Tebow Stayed because he was not going to be drafted high in the draft. Stafford and Moreno took the Millions. I can’t blame them although it would have been nice to have them both this year. Defense is still not up to par.

Fony Barnhart

November 4th, 2009
3:47 pm

I’m sure Dwyer is a lot happier at Tech than he would have ever been at UGA. Tony makes it sound like Tech got UGA’s leftovers. I really don’t think that that is the case but again Mr. CFA is a true UGA bigot. Why can’t we get a postive article about Tech and its accomplishments this year rather than this constant whinning and excuse making about UGA. Its pathetic and has exposed the AJC staff and in particular TB as the narrowed minded UGA homers that they are.

Gen Neyland

November 4th, 2009
3:51 pm

From what I’ve seen at Georgia over the past 3 years has been a movement away from discipline play, especially on the D side. I’ve wondered why CMR has put up with it. But I’m an outsider here…

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
3:52 pm

Macro, good positive attitude and post sir.

cantondawg

November 4th, 2009
3:57 pm

let’s put some thought into this….People are saying that we should replace a coach that has given us 6 top 10 finishes in 9 years and 2 sec championships for someone who has never been a head coach and we have no idea how it would turn out…That’s sounds really smart to me…

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
3:58 pm

Leslie Chow, not sure how you intend that post….I choose to take in a positive light. Best of luck!!!

BoooyKnee Lomax

November 4th, 2009
4:00 pm

Vito, excuse me Vito? VIIIIIIIIIIIIIITO!!!

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
4:01 pm

6.) How badly do you wish you had Will Muschamp right now?

Papa Dawg

November 4th, 2009
4:01 pm

Go ahead dumba___s get rid of Coach Richt for I’m sure there are quite a few teams waiting to snatch him up and who are you going to replace him with

Fld Oucker

November 4th, 2009
4:02 pm

I think Richt is on his way out just like Tuberville was.

So long there feller! Looks like that Bubba guy could use you as his tanning model lol!

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
4:03 pm

General, come on in have seat. Need a beer? Don’t be an outsider. Your point is well made. I think that will change with a new D coordinator next year. You can be agressive without getting penalized. That is coaching. Being in position to make a tackle is coaching. Letting Crompton into the Heisman race is coaching. I wouldn’t mind having Gary Danielson come coach D he seems to be a right smart fellow. Talks a good game anyway.

barneyb

November 4th, 2009
4:05 pm

This WILL NOT be fixed unless there is a houscleaning of all assistants at a minimum…mark my words

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
4:06 pm

Hook em Horns! To use one of Muschamps favorite words.. I wish that motherf^*^er was on our sidelines. That dude gets INTO the game. I am waiting for him to come off the sideline and make a tackle one of these days. Then yell “Take that motherf*^&er>”

Dawg chomper

November 4th, 2009
4:07 pm

It seems to me that Richt is in some trouble, he is now the 5th best coach in the SEC East behind Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Stever Spurier, and Lane Kiffen, theres just no other way around it. The performances by Richt in the last 10 seasons have no doubt been exceptional but for one reason only, talent. Georgia has been putting quality NFL players for years and stands as the number two school with the most players in the league.

But to Richts credit, recruiting is a huge part of college football and hes been great; its everyone else around him who needs replacing. Mike Bobo is flat out terrible he has no idea how to manage a game or what plays to call. Against Arizona st im pretty sure i counted 16 screen passes and 5 fullback dives. Are you kidding me??? thats the garbage your dialing up with the talent we have out there??? Along with him should go Willie Martinez. He is a mockery to the UGA program and its history as a strong defensive program.

Does Uga have great coaches? The answer is NO
Does Uga have great recruiters? Yes

This whole evaluating talent thing is just garbage. A 5 star player is a 5 star player, CMR didn’t decide this.

Every year opposing fans tell us we are overrated. We are never overrating, the talent of the field just never plays to their potential.

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
4:07 pm

gdawginkalamazoo

That “3 point win” was preceded by a “16 point half time lead” by you AND a “26-0 third quarter” BEATDOWN we gave you to rock your world! You may win at our place but make no mistake, your bite is not what it used to be and we are not afraid of georgia’s bark anymore I hope you can hear me). You’d be wise to expect another consitent bitch slapping and be prepared to play 4 straight quarters (or more) which you have not done since the Hawaii game. lol. The dog nation needs to learn their new role, like it and STFU.

Tebow is YOUR daddy

November 4th, 2009
4:10 pm

Will you doggie fans stop complaining about losing and using the “bad coaching” excuse for your losses? You guys are just not one of the Elite programs anymore. No hard feelings but we enjoy winning and BEING an Elite Program! Yes, we manhandled you guys even after all the trash talk!

ManUp

November 4th, 2009
4:11 pm

Leslie Chow sounds like a real lady. The kind you don’t take home to Mama!

whose the biggest rednecks

November 4th, 2009
4:13 pm

The only reason Bama played VT was because the Kickoff Classic commitee extended an invitation, trust me no one picked up a phone and called Blacksburg.

whose the biggest rednecks

November 4th, 2009
4:15 pm

With Bama playing FIU, N Texas and Chattanooga..and Fl playing FIU, Charleston Southern and Troy..neither one should be allowed to be ranked in top 5. I can see 1 but 3 is ludicrous.

Timothy G

November 4th, 2009
4:15 pm

Coach Richt needs to go!! He is not an SEC coach. He should go to the ACC or MAC or some other division. He had his winning years during SEC slump years. Now the SEC is back in form and Georgia is exposed as a has been, probably truely never was been! NO MORE COX!!!! NO MORE COX!! NO MORE 5th YEAR JOES!!! COME ON!

whose the biggest rednecks

November 4th, 2009
4:16 pm

Not understanding why that seems to be ok with other SEC teams to hail them as number 1 and 2 as well as the rest of the country who votes for those teams.

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
4:16 pm

He goes onto the field a lot but almost tackles OUR players in excited. He is great, but I do wish he didn’t curse as much…

DontMessWitTex

November 4th, 2009
4:16 pm

ManUp Your right. Leslie sounds like a real sweetheart. I bet she wears alot of nice dresses!

houstondawg

November 4th, 2009
4:17 pm

I am a little lost, when Chris Leek left Fla, there was Tebow, Ala. John parker Wilson leaves another QB is qualified to run the offense, Lsu, Matt Mauck Leaves, there is another Qb Ready. Ga Stafford Leaves we go into the tank. Am I nuts, is it just bad luck? Oh, maybe its coaching. HMMMM

whose the biggest rednecks

November 4th, 2009
4:17 pm

Gee,

I don’t know the difference between “whose” and “who’s”

whose the biggest rednecks

November 4th, 2009
4:18 pm

no matter how discouraged UGA gets, do not think anyone could be more inbred and redneck than Bama who threw a brick through Bill Curry’s window even when the man won an SEC title. Talk about backwoods redneck losers.

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
4:18 pm

Really, no sane dawg fan wants Richt out of here. The man has earned the right to make a mistake here and there. He definitely earned the right to have a bad season. He is just as disappointed in this year as anybody blogging on here. He will get it straightened out and get back on track. He knows that when the coaching isn’t where it should be that he is letting these kids down and that is the last thing he wants to do. A fresh start on the D side of the ball will get it going. And the thing about a D is that if you have the talent there it can be coached to play the right schemes, make adjustment, etc. in the off season so that you can hit next season without missing a beat. Look at UT, new coach on D, same players and talent. Great results.

And nobody should knock Tech’s ability to recruit great athletes. Tech is very well capable of grabbing recruits. They always have been and always will. Dwyer, Calvin Johnson. It is a great school.

godawgs

November 4th, 2009
4:20 pm

Richt will be like Tressel–national champion, in 2010 or 2011, or BOTH. Nice guys finish first.

Here’s the formula, according to Richt’s past victories:
1- No turnovers
2- 400 yards of total offense
3- Lead going into halftime
4- Have a 100 yard rusher

macrotech

November 4th, 2009
4:21 pm

gdawginkalamazoo, I’d buy you a beer for that last post!!! AMEN!!!

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
4:22 pm

As I stated earlier, only two things come from Texas.

Back to football talk. What’s the over under on the UGA/GT game going to be? 130??

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
4:28 pm

godawgs & gdawginkalamazoo

Sounds like Georgia Tech Football. Where did you get this information?

1- No turnovers
2- 400 yards of total offense
3- Lead going into halftime
4- Have a 100 yard rusher

gdawginkalamazoo

November 4th, 2009
4:31 pm

houstondawg, don’t be lost. Leak leaves and Tebow loses four games his first year. Mauck leaves LSU and they drop 5 games with his replacement. Bama’s offense is currently being held up by its DEFENSE. We all knew Joe C was going to be the guy this year. I do think that Gray should have had some series thrown in there. Still think he should start taking palyer more if Joe throws any more INT’s. Don’t worry, once we get our next QB in there whether it be Gray or Murray or Mettenberger we will have him in there for a good 3 years. And hopefully have an O-line that plays the same postion for a full season or two.

YellowFuzz, a win is a win. You might want to shut your sting hole while you have a chance.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
4:32 pm

Leslie – Fire ants and what else? I’d be shocked if the over-under line isn’t at least 90.

Jon

November 4th, 2009
4:32 pm

Hey I’m a LSU Tiger fan
But I like Richt,
I want him to stay but his team needs to get better. I was disspointed when they had a week off and then when they played Florida, they looked exactly the same way they did before the game. Miles Should give him some advice to bring his team back together, because loook what we did to Auburn, We killed them after Florida beat us.

On the Brain

November 4th, 2009
4:34 pm

On the head – Stafford and Moreno don’t play defense.

freshman Tight end

November 4th, 2009
4:35 pm

BG – RICHT beat CHAN GAILEY and REGGIE BALL CONGRATS AN AMAZING JOB HE DID…. SORRY ITS OVER FOR YOU NOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcEoBaNWf2E

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
4:37 pm

Del, I’m sure “HookEm” can tell you what those two things are.

In regards to the spread in that game. Is it possible Tech’s D is worse than UGA’s? I’d say it’s very possible.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
4:39 pm

Can hardly wait for the Auburn game. War Eagle!! Yeah! Beat Georgia. Well, actually I’m still pi$$ed about paying that out of state tuition. I never expected Tech, but why couldn’t my daughter have picked Georgia?

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
4:41 pm

Leslie Chow, yea, if it rhymes it must be true, right? bigot

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
4:42 pm

And before you bash Texas with your lame rhymes, you might consider the fact we have more MNCs than UGA has wins over florida in the last 20 years.

17 of 20

November 4th, 2009
4:42 pm

Tony,
The Georgia coaches do a fine job, please stop asking all these questions.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
4:43 pm

Leslie – Yes, in a word. The 2009 game may be forever known as the ‘Willie – Wommack Classic”.

ummmhmmmm

November 4th, 2009
4:43 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXzW-oP2mq4&feature=related

Here you can see Richt doing a good job Motivating

Dawgs in 2010!

November 4th, 2009
4:44 pm

In 2010, the Dawgs win the SEC east—mark it down! Aaron Murray is a lot better than Brantley at UF and UT will have no QB that’s any good. Plus, Richt will bring in a new D-coordinator that knows how to scheme against Florida’s spread. UGA beats LSU for the SEC title in Dec 2010—bet the house!

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
4:47 pm

Hook ‘Em Horns – Okay, I’m clueless on that, but take your word for it, so never mind. I’ll stick with fire ants, but I think they just camped out in Texas while heading for my front yard.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
4:49 pm

C’mon Hookem… Be proud of who you are.

So since there is an elephant in the room, let’s acknowledge him. Who is a suitable replacement for Martiinez? Nerds, feel free to chime in on this one too.

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
4:51 pm

Haha, yea thats prob for the best, Delbert. As for Fire ants, just be glad you dont have “Crazy Raspberry Ants” like the ones that have invaded houston. They short out electronics.

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
4:52 pm

Leslie Chow, though I am not gay, I find it incredibly bigoted that you find that an appropriate and humorous insult. People like you are the reason the rest of the states, Texas included, make fun of the South.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
4:59 pm

Ouch!!! Hey look man, either talk football or go do your nails. Have you made one valid point on this blog?

On another note, I am NOT one of the many that seem to be out for Richt’s head in this media charged witch hunt that seems to be brewing up. Not that Tony’s article here is one of them but if you follow the AJC sports page you’ve read them lately. I think it’s safe to say that Richt isn’t leaving so let’s start the talk about who will replace Martinez? I hear the D coordinator at Baylor is a fireball but don’t know much about him.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
5:01 pm

Hook ‘Em – gonna Google about *those* ants. They must have come in by cargo ships, I’m guessing.

David

November 4th, 2009
5:02 pm

Scheduling 11 of 12 games against BCS teams is setting the head coach and UGA players up for failure. Ultimately any team wears down under the constant physical pounding.

The UGA ‘brand’ gets exposure by winning SEC games and thus competing for SEC and national championships. The Bulldogs don’t need to go to Stillwater and Tempe to get national exposure.

It prevents UGA from competing for championships. No other SEC team schedules as destructively foolish as the Georgia Athletic Administration.

UGA should emulate UF on this score…after all it is a former Bulldog who handles football scheduling at UF. He seems to know what he is doing.

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
5:02 pm

Many actually, but I’ll sum them up:

Willie Martinez sucks.
Mark Richt has lost his touch.
UGA plays T*^*hug ball, like most of the SEC
Cox is horrible.
UGA is always an underachiever and may not get the best of UF for a loooong time
Tennesse will pay UGA next year and not look back.
South Carolina might, too.

Anything else, Leslie Chow?

ManUp

November 4th, 2009
5:03 pm

Leslie – go cook something.

GT

November 4th, 2009
5:05 pm

Any coach that has ever coach longer than 4 years will have this problem. You are seeing it at Southern Cal, Ohio State and now at Georgia. First of all you are on tape every week for the world to see what you do. I could figure out Houdini if I watched tape of him every week. It is like the movie Groundhog day, even that idiot got it after living the same day over 100 times. One coach looks at Georgia and he attacks them one way pointing out what he sees as the weakness, the next coach picks that up on film and adds his observation, some of it is on players weaknesses but some is on the overall scheme. Old Bear junked everything and made them look at something entirely new the wishbone. Then every team started running the bone and it became yesterday’s news. Spread offenses are yesterday’s news, this defense has been out of control since West Virginia in the Sugar Bowl played in Atlanta. A new team out of conference with several weeks brought a fresh set of eyes, notices how the free safty lines up and keys off that, now everybody does the same. Richt will get it straight it just took some to get him to do it.

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
5:07 pm

BTW, i came here to talk football. You were the one that started the name calling

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
5:08 pm

Hook ‘Em – Holy cr*p! I REALLY wish I hadn’t Googled that! The Times of London article reads like the apocolypse is here!

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
5:10 pm

Stick to the Big-12 sweet cheeks. How much will Tenn and USC pay UGA? $50?

Martinez sucks? Thank you Capt. Obvious…

And on the note of “thug ball” I’d say it’s more like playing tough defense which is something that the Big-12 doesn’t do. However, I would say UGA and Tech’s D would be a top tier D in the Big-12.

wasn't it bad about the dogs,

November 4th, 2009
5:11 pm

some of you dog fans indicate Cox’s passing (ints) is the problem….then why do you pass so much? What happened to run 60%?

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
5:12 pm

“Scheduling 11 of 12 games against BCS teams is setting the head coach and UGA players up for failure”

Back in the ’50s & ’60s, the Big Ten scheduled 9 games while the rest of the country scheduled 10.

17 of 20

November 4th, 2009
5:13 pm

You Georgia fans should be happy with your record 4 and 4. You can still win 3 more games. The coaches do the best job they can do, so leave them alone.

Kenny Stabler

November 4th, 2009
5:18 pm

Tony

How can you complain with a straight face about Georgia’s tough out-of-conference schedule. Maybe it’s because the Dawgs never ventured outside the SE to play another good team. Michigan 1965 >>>>> Arizona St 2008. That’s huge gap of weak opponents Tony. Maybe that’s why the flight to Okie St seemed long to you!!! Good article—but layoff the hard schedule crap. We have played Penn St, BYU, FSU, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, Nebraska,etc during the time Georgia was too timid to play good opponents. We start playing Penn St again next year.

Please stop the whining–it makes you & Georgia look weak.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
5:19 pm

“However, I would say UGA and Tech’s D would be a top tier D in the Big-12.”

Tech’s turn with the Big 12 next. Kansas away game next year. I guess we’ll see.

Delusional

November 4th, 2009
5:21 pm

Leslie:

You do know that OKState is in the Big 12, right? And you commented that Baylor’s (Big 12) D-cord would be a potential Martinez replacement. Then you put down Big-12 defenses. In your vast football wisdom are you wanting a Big-12 type defense like Norwood’s or are you sipping wine and thinking it is fun to “chat” with the boys?

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
5:23 pm

Kenny – Don’t forget about Ga. Tech in 2013 – 2014. Might be interesting, who knows.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
5:24 pm

Kenny I completely agree on the scheduling. UF is laughed at for it. I’d rather play a good school or two out of conference every year. Makes for better football from a fans standpoint. Who want’s to watch your team play Tenn Tech 4 times a year?

Gatormeat

November 4th, 2009
5:24 pm

Only question for Richt should be how does he like his annual beatings in Jacksonville. I guess Ga does do one good service however, it gives trailer park trash all over the state something to watch on TV in the fall

shane#1

November 4th, 2009
5:26 pm

1- UGA does recruit well, but there are gaps in their armor. On defense all of the starters at DB except Jones are undersized, as are the Des. Curran does his best, but the defense lacks a playmaker. Boykin, Smith, and Rambo do show a lot of potential, so I look for the defensive backfield to improve. I see big problems ahead for the DL though with the best linemen graduating. If you think the D line was bad this year just imagine it without Owens, Adkins and Weston. I don’t see real improvement ahead for the end posistion, most will continue to be converted linebackers. On offense UGA lacks a power RB for the power I and hasn’t had a real power back since Lumpkin was healthy. It is good that UGA has two top QBs as freshmen, too bad they were recruited a year late. The O line is also undersized, but since the line is still relatively young that should improve. The TEs are hybreds so do not block as well as TEs in years past. UGA did not recruit will for the O line in the past and is still hampered by that fact, neglect of the D in recruiting is begining to be felt now. 2- I don’t think the staff has done a good job of coaching what talent they have. Gox is a five year senior and still has trouble picking up the blitz and is careless with the ball, and there are too many penalties. However, false starts on the line has something to do with the aggressive O linemen that the Dawgs prefer. In any case coaching at the posistion level over all needs to improve. 5- I skipped to five because I think UGA has one of the best strenght coaches in the country and there isn’t a hell of a lot that Richt can do about scheduling. Richt must step up now and lead this team. I am not one that thinks he needs to fire everybody but he does need to take the team by the hand and lead them. Those guys love CMR and will do whatever he asks, if he just asks! I do think it may be time to look at another offense, the pro-style is complicated and is difficult to teach. Maybe some type of spread?

Gatormeat

November 4th, 2009
5:28 pm

Kenny, it is not that the dogs appear weak, they are weak. And a bunch of whiners also. The only thing Spikes did wrong Sat was to not go after a dog’s knee. Ga is a bunch of thugs, but they are too cowardly to take what they try to dish out

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
5:29 pm

Delusion, Google the word ‘facetious’

DAWG 1177

November 4th, 2009
5:31 pm

Do you remember the two players we lost last year in the draft? I think they (Stafford and Moreno) took alot of pressure off of the defense last year. Now that the defense is being relied on a little more Coach Martinez’s unit isn’t coming through. Maybe we need a new defensive coordinator to bring in a spark to that side of the ball. As far as the talent goes, I think we will see a better offense next year simply because of the experience on the offensive line and the talent at tailback. By the way we haven’t lost to GA TECH yet people!!!!!!

godawgs

November 4th, 2009
5:32 pm

Georgia needs to SCORE FIRST.

According to georgiadogs.com stats, Richt is 65-9 when Georgia scores FIRST.

Don’t defer to defesne to start a game like we did against Florida. In the SEC, the team that scores first, almost always wins.

Shows how important it is to BELIEVE YOU CAN WIN A GAME, based on in-game performance.

Small wins, create confidence and lead to wins.

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
5:33 pm

Tenn will pass* (don’t know why I typed pay) UGA next year, and USC might too

Thanks for the back up, delusional.

All in all, UGA needs a new d-coordinator that will fire the team up but also cut the stupid penalties out. I said the SEC plays t****hug ball because there is eye-gouging, blatant cheap shots, etc. the easiest way UGA can improve is if they stop hurting themselves. That could effectively add another 100 yards of field position easily. The offense will come around with time (once Cox is gone).

Rick

November 4th, 2009
5:33 pm

TOGA is correct all the way.He just left out the fact how Alabama is a repet violator of N.C.C.A. rules .
But that is o.k. Alabama fans Everyone knows buy now that those in rama ,jama land still can’t re-call this or a N.C.C.A.rule book.

Delusional

November 4th, 2009
5:33 pm

Leslie:

Google Kenny Stabler. You know Kenny Stabler was a quarterback at ———————— Not UGA. The rest of us on hear assume since Kenny Stabler was a QB at Alabama that he is a fan of —————– Alabama and was subsequently getting on to TB about pointing out Alabama having played North Texas and FIU. Kenny wasn’t bestowing the virtue of the UGA schedule this year, he was making fun of the fact that UGA only recently improved the competition of the out-of-conference games and that is somehow why UGA is playing badly.

As Man-up said at 5:03, go cook something.

DAWG 1177

November 4th, 2009
5:36 pm

I think Spikes needs to be kicked off the team because of what he did. WE are talking about the gators though, the raiders of the sec!!!

Gen Neyland

November 4th, 2009
5:38 pm

zoo: BuLLdawg (remember him?) has been calling for the firing of CMR. BuLLdawg, the other Mr. College Football..!

leslie crowe

November 4th, 2009
5:39 pm

hey leslie…play that tough schedule you know tenn tech and ga tech…what tough out of conference???…at least gt plays 3 sec teams….remember you cant spell ugly season without UGA

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
5:39 pm

“Georgia needs to SCORE FIRST.”

A bit of advice: If Georgia wins the toss against Tech, take the ball.

Delusional

November 4th, 2009
5:42 pm

Hook’em:

No problem with pointing out the ill-conceived ideas of a delusional UGA fan but on the SEC playing thug ball – remember your conference gave us Bosworth.

Hook 'Em Horns!!

November 4th, 2009
5:43 pm

Oh I’m not implying that we don’t have our fair share. We just seem to condemn it a little more than Richt or Meyer.

leslie crowe

November 4th, 2009
5:43 pm

dont matter if they take the toss…..look at halftime score last year

Dave from GT

November 4th, 2009
5:45 pm

Have a nice Thanksgiving. You’re going down shortly thereafter!

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
5:46 pm

You know what, you are absolutely right. I just read over his post again, he mentioned nothing about how playing cream puffs 4 times a year out of conference doesn’t look weak. How silly of me…

Jake

November 4th, 2009
5:51 pm

All this fighting about a darn pumkin

leslie crowe

November 4th, 2009
5:51 pm

leslie get on with life,,,,your team sucks…from coach to waterboy

Delusional

November 4th, 2009
5:53 pm

Leslie:

Thanks, I like being right and yes, your posts are silly.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
5:57 pm

Wow, I can feel my IQ dropping. Especially since you’ve been chiming in crowe. Yes, Richt sucks. You sir, are special…

Gatormeat

November 4th, 2009
5:58 pm

If I were the dogs I would be worrying if they can win a shootout with Tenn Tech. They will probably put up 30 on the dogs D and if Cox turns the ball over a couple times it may be App St-Michigan all over again

TerriDawg

November 4th, 2009
6:03 pm

There’s no discipline, that’s for sure. That’s a fault of coaching AND recruiting players who have talent but no character or integrity.

Richt has to go.

Kwazy Kwestions

November 4th, 2009
6:04 pm

O, Tony, Tony – - more craziness. If I were Mark R., I’d take the Fifth.

Delusional

November 4th, 2009
6:05 pm

Leslie:

At 4:59 you wrote “On another note, I am NOT one of the many that seem to be out for Richt’s head in this media charged witch hunt that seems to be brewing up.” And then at 5:57 “Yes, Richt sucks”.

In trying to interpret all of your brilliant posts, can we surmise that you are a UGA fan who wants a coach who sucks?

Jackets Win

November 4th, 2009
6:07 pm

Tech will win, regardless of what UGA does between now and November 28.
GO JACKETS ! ! !

TerriDawg

November 4th, 2009
6:08 pm

I’ve seen others use the word “thugs,” but I used to think that was too strong a term. Now I’m beginning to believe it. Too many of our players have a thug mentality and an entitlement mentality, probably because they’ve been coddled as athletes since grade school, and were never called on their actions. That’s Richt’s responsibility now, and he’s not addressing it, so we’ll continue to have the Arrest of the Week.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
6:10 pm

You are on point today my friend. Way to keep up! I feel like I am talking the 2nd graders I teach by having to repeat myself so much today on here. Google ‘facetious’…

OK, I’m bored here. Goodnight haters, have fun a UGA blog.

Leslie Chow

November 4th, 2009
6:13 pm

“on” a UGA blog

Bow Wow

November 4th, 2009
6:13 pm

Prospects in the SE are having second thoughts about UGA. Richt will hang around until Adams decides to dump him, and that may be soon. Anyway, the run is over for Richt and UGA.

jerry

November 4th, 2009
6:28 pm

Richt has had his share of cupcakes on the schedule. And the answer is not to schedule more cupcakes but to have EVERYONE schedule less cupcakes.

jerry

November 4th, 2009
6:37 pm

Richt has had almost 9 years to prove that he is great. He hasn’t. And probably won’t because he can’t.

Patrick

November 4th, 2009
6:48 pm

I think the original subject was what is wrong with the UGA team. Somehow this has turned into a UGA – GT smack-talking blog and I hate it. Yes, UGA has issues in coaching on both sides of the ball and I’m positive that it will be corrected. In the interim, can’t we just congratulate the GT team for their success and work on our own problems? I honestly hope that UGA & GT wins out the rest of the year except on the Flats after turkey day.

Timbo711

November 4th, 2009
6:49 pm

GT may have a High School offense but they did beat a UGA team with a 1st Round QB and RB last year. Some people think offences evolve but they really go in cycle. Being an Arkansas fan, i really believe we should have been running the wishbone when we had McFadden, Jones and Hillis. We were a pretty good team with a terrible QB. We should have went wild-cat every down. I guarantee we would have went to a BCS bowl. Those Arkansas teams had far more talent the GT and McFadden even has a better arm than Nesbit.

bulldog in carolina

November 4th, 2009
6:56 pm

worse georgia team since johnny griffith era…defense is worst in ncaa

jerry

November 4th, 2009
6:56 pm

Did Barnhart come to praise Ceasar or to bury him?

pb

November 4th, 2009
6:57 pm

jerry,

I don’t think Richt has to be great. Just win more games than you lose (UGA is at .500 right now.) And stop making dumb mistakes, like too many penalties, turnovers, and lack of execution when we need the play. That is all most UGA fans ask- but I dont know if we are going to get it anytime soon?

Hair of the Dawg

November 4th, 2009
6:58 pm

CMR was herald as one of the best coaches when he was winning SEC championships. Now the nay sayers seem out in force. I certainly don’t have the answers to why UGA is 4-4 however, I feel confident that our head coach will turn it around just like many of the greeat ones have done in the past. Remember two years ago when we finsihed number 2 in the nation many said we got cheated out of playing for a NC. I say let the man coach and get off the negative band wagon as he is already proven. This year is going to be a learning lesson but I still feel the Dawgs have the right man at the helm.

gator dawgpounder

November 4th, 2009
6:58 pm

DAWG 1177,

The Dawgs including Washan Ealey at least are men, unlike most of their whiney fans, face it your team has become lower echelon in the SEC and if you keep your holier than thou coach who encourages his team to break the rules you might start losing to Vandy; oh yeah you lost at home to them under the great CMR.

PT

November 4th, 2009
7:02 pm

Richt’s fate will be that of Ceasar’s

Patrick

November 4th, 2009
7:04 pm

Timbo711, I agree. One of Ark’s mistakes was just that plus not giving their best QB (Mustain) enough playing time. I’d like to see more NCAA teams play the option as it is a grinding, clock ripping, defense tiring sort of game. That’s the way football should be played. Yeah, granted that long TD passes are very impressive but what does that do? It puts your defense back on the field. Mark Richt et al do not understand that. Sad.

Born2Buzz

November 4th, 2009
7:05 pm

Patrick, haven’t you noticed that the bottom feeders from both schools make every blog a UGA-GT smack talking blog. I’d call it a pissing contest. And I hate it also.

Timbo, thanks for reinforcing the stereotype.

UGA fans, you had to see this year’s downturn coming, right? You lost your QB and RB who were first round draft picks, plus your senior WR. You don’t lose that much talent and just reload automatically. Look and Southern Cal. Granted you shouldn’t be so bad on D and the lack of discipline and stupid penalties are unacceptable. Unfortunately this is a lost year for UGA and next year will be a rebuilding one as well as you will be starting a freshman (hopefully redshirt) QB. Trust me, Florida will not be as good next year either as they lose Tebow and haven’t played anyone else for 2 solid years. The SEC East next year will be wide open.

John

November 4th, 2009
7:05 pm

1.) Recruiting, I believe Georgia coaching staff has the Detroit Lion talent evaluation complex…Simply getting the best player available by stats only, not the best to fit your system. Too often we pick running backs that has great You Tube highlights of 50 & 70 yards (see Caleb King vs. Jonathan Dwyer)the problem with this is some running backs has the luxury of having great offensive lines in high school, upon arriving at Georgia they are not accustomed to the wear & tear workmanlike yards between the tackles. When those runs are rare in the course of a college game. Give me a 2 or 3 star back that can keep the chains moving, not a one trick pony that is either boom or bust.

2.) Coaching up talent…Another problem with 4 & 5 star players is that some has already max out their potential, or was blessed with being on good high school teams with many other Divison 1 talent and never had to experience the hard work. Ever wonder why most players that has the “it” factor arrive at Georgia and is successful without being “coached up” by Georgia coaches? Knowshon was running over Odell Thurman as a redshirt freshman before being coached up, Pollack wasn’t highly recruited but exceled with VanGorders coaching, Thurman wasn’t recruited highly but was spotted by VanGorder as “potential”, Green was the best Georgia receiver his senior year of high school, didn’t need Georgia’s coaches to blossum….bottom line the Georiga’s new coaches are not coaching the talent, the players either have it upon arriving or bust.

1,3 & 5.) Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. The players being recruited doesn’t match the offensive & defensive schemes. They recruit small (5′8 170lbs.) running backs that can’t run between tackles or if they do the likelyhood of fumbling is increased, fast defensive ends that over pursue tactive offensive tackles, that are easily punished for their aggressive nature with misdirection plays. Small DB’s that are either out jumped or not physical enough for the new breed of 6′5 210lbs receivers. Oversized LB’s that are too slow to match the 5 receiver sets of most offenses. A defensive scheme that isn’t geared towards aggresiveness but to “read then react”, to allow the opposition to get yards only to try to limit them to a field goal. These ideals lead to a tired defense by the 3 and 4 quarters when Georgia experience most of their blowouts. I don’t believe that conditioning is far off, but the scheme is flawed, the offensive plays are predictable, and players that don’t match the system. VanGorders system lasted as long as until his players graduated, and has been on a decline since then. Before Tebow, Meyer had a pro-style quarterback that didn’t fit his system, but he designed around that flaw and won a championship, the great coaches can do that. Georgia doesn’t have a starting pro-style quarterback with a great arm, but they do have a stable of runningbacks and a back-up quarterback with speed…maybe their strengh is a veer attack like Florida, or Georgia Tech that only throw 15 times per game. Put your best talent on the field and make your oppositon try to stop you, instead of trying to limit what they do. Let your talent dictate your system/talent, not vice versa.

I Hate trailer trash

November 4th, 2009
7:08 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bank Dawg

November 4th, 2009
7:09 pm

If Georgia were a house owned by Richt, he would be waaayyyy behind in his payments, upside down and foreclosure would be imminent.

No adjustments can be made because Richt and his staff can’t adjust. They are all complacent (another way of calling them LAZY) and none of them can see the forest for the trees. The DAWG is out and they can’t do a darn thing to bring it to heel.

Schultz omitted that our coach and coaching staff have been surpassed, to say the least, by the new kids on the block, Miles, Saban and Meyer.

All those men won national championships in HALF the time that Richt has been at Georgia. And while he is correct about his career w/l at Georgia, he hasn’t won a national championship and has never had a team in the championship game.

We can do better than this. We DESERVE better than this. This product is been on the shelf too long.

Georgia, my team for the past 70 years, is a loser in nearly every respect. Poor conditioning, poor coaching, poor evaluation of talent, poor offensive and defensive lines. We have two great kickers and some young talent that if the coaches hadn’t been passed by could coach them up into champs. Instead Gray is nearly two years into the program but can’t play. Ealey doesn’t block well on passes, it is announced, so everyone knows with Mark Richt’s conservative bent will never allow him to throw a pass. They can’t make adjustments, haven’t y’all figured that out.

As fans, we were complacent until now. It is evident to me that Mark Richt et al. are way overdrawn in their GEORGIA FANS GOODWILL BANK. He has now lost the fans too.

I Hate trailer trash

November 4th, 2009
7:14 pm

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAH CMR is a ball codling jock sniffer.

Dawgcryer

November 4th, 2009
7:15 pm

UGA sucks. They will not go to a bowl. They will beat Tenn Tech, lose to KY, Auburn and GT. Maybe go 8-4 next year. Tech will own UGA the next 5 years. Look for a new coach that has the b*lls to hire/fire assistants.

gator dawgpounder

November 4th, 2009
7:23 pm

It appears that Ealey (saying Spikes should not be suspended) and now Spikes both appear to be man enough to do and say the right things. As Ealey said in his statement, stuff happens all the time on the field; pretty responsible for a Freshman and now Spikes:Spikes to sit out entire Vanderbilt game

By Robbie Andreu
Sun sports writer

Published: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 6:22 p.m.
Last Modified: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 6:22 p.m.
Due to mounting criticism, a mutual decision for Brandon Spikes to sit out the entire Vanderbilt game was made by the senior linebacker and Florida’s coaching staff and players.

Coach Urban Meyer had received negative attention for being too lenient after an incident involving Spikes during Saturday’s game against Georgia.

Spikes said he doesn’t want to be a distraction to his teammates. Meyer said he supports Spikes’ decision.

Meyer suspended Spikes on Monday for the first half of Saturday’s game against Vanderbilt for sticking his hand inside the helmet of Georgia running back Washaun Ealey after a tackle

J-dizzle

November 4th, 2009
7:32 pm

Wowww…… best thought out synopsis of what Richt and UGA need to do.. basically reevaluate EVERYTHING and take NOTHING for granted. While UGA slept… UT, SC, Aub, ALA, GT, and FL all went out and got new coaching staffs that are lights out and can recruit and coach!

Fan

November 4th, 2009
7:33 pm

Georgia always talks about tradition… What tradition? One national Championship in 30 years is not something to brag about! Especially; with the likes of top powers like Southern Cal and Florida in the hunt year in and year out for the National Championship. Not to mention that every Top Recruit across the nation dreams of playing for Southern Cal and Florida. Georgia needs to Step Up to the plate and take action to regain National Prominence and stop thinking that Georgia is the God of Football schools. For Crying out load… We need a make over from top to bottom to change our thinking and create a better outcome for Georgia’s football program…. New Coaches and Administrators, New atmosphere i.e. new updated logo, uniforms, marketing so forth, Recruit more nationally from the West coast; Midwest not just predominately the east coast. Forget trying to hire within or former players… Get a Fresh Start …. Its time to make Georgia Great!!!

Rumors

November 4th, 2009
7:36 pm

This just in, In light of UGA’s uniform scheme’s Vanderbilt has decided to follow the trend. I’ve heard the coach Bobby Johnson has made the decission that they too will try a uniform change for this weekends game against Florida. He feels confident that he has the perfect change that will help his team “stay focused” and that it will help them to “see where the program is headed”. Unlike UGA’s failure in color changes, Johnson feels that he has the right change needed. He has decided that the entire team will wear full face shields in there helmets, thus helping the team feel confident when they take the field against the Gators.

Huck

November 4th, 2009
7:38 pm

The nerds have finally made it to the Top Ten….where GEORGIA has FINISHED in 6 of the past 7 years….and after GEORGIA beats the nerds at the joke by the Coke on the Saturday after Thanksgiving the nerds won’t be in the Top Ten anymore…..and the hell of it is, all you nerds know it—and inside it is killing you.

DAWG 1177

November 4th, 2009
7:38 pm

Dear gator dawgpounder, The Dawgs are definitely not at the bottom of the Sec. We will not give up on our coach. He is a very good christian man who will get things turned around. The rules he breaks you are referring to I assume mean the T.D. celebration the dawgs did in the endzone against the Gators. I thought it was pretty funny, harmless, and nowhere near trying to poke a player tangled up in a pile in the eyes. I seem to remember when FSU twisted one of the gators tailbacks knee under a pile. Did the gator fans like that…NO and with good reason.

DAWG 1177

November 4th, 2009
7:39 pm

Prediction…UGA-30 Ga Tech-14

Chad

November 4th, 2009
7:48 pm

Come on UGA fans. Show some support for your team. M.R. is one of the best coaches in the country and UGA has one of the best programs (Top 10 team almost every year under M.R. and #2 in the country just 2 yrs ago!) Every team has a down year on occassion. In 2007 Alabama lost 6 games, Fla lost 4 games. Last year LSU lost 5 SEC games, and Auburn and TN each lost 6 games. Remember UGA is playing one of the toughest schedules in the country, not 2 or 3 push-over teams like some other SEC teams. Support your team and coaches and UGA will bounce right back and be one of the top teams by next year.

Palm City Dawg

November 4th, 2009
7:53 pm

USC lost 13 straight to Notre Dame. Richt will turn this around by canning Martinez and taking over play callng.

SOUTHGADAWG88

November 4th, 2009
7:56 pm

On a different note I really hope King steps it up down the stretch here and finishes the year strong.Ealy and King could be a great tandem.Selfishly I want to see this happen so I can get a chance to see my dream LB trio..Curran,Dowtin and Samuel…I’m telling you guys Richard is going to be a stud before he’s done.The mistake was not red shirting him last year.Richt is going to rue that call.

Super Dog

November 4th, 2009
8:02 pm

Chad

Continue investing in Enron and AIG. I believe your going to be rich very soon

The defense has continued to increase its average of points given up year after year.

The offense is almost becoming just as bad

And you think they are going to bounce back.

If Richt would take Barnharts advice we will bounce back.

Im for Richt not his staff a change needs to be made

Pull for another team if you think otherwise.
Fans like you will continue to accept mediocrity
Fans like you think Jim Dommerman n and Ray Goof were great coaches
Fans like you will cause the program to become nothing better than Vanderbilt

jambee

November 4th, 2009
8:03 pm

Excellent. The key to building a great team is by playing a weak out of conference schedule. Wimpy point of view.

Patrick

November 4th, 2009
8:04 pm

Born2Buzz, you hit the nail on the head, man. I know you guys (GT) will be back next year big time but I can’t forecast the same for UGA. It’s really a shame since UGA recruits a lot of great talent. I just hope you’re right about the SEC East next year but UT is coming on pretty strong so it should be interesting to watch. Now go out there and win the ACC CG and make this state proud! You’ve got the players and coach to make it happen. If GT plays Clemson again I hope you cream them!!

jesse james

November 4th, 2009
8:07 pm

I want to apologize to Coach Richt for all this negative talk. Anybody that saw the Spring Game should have known this could be a tough year. I’ve heard Coach Richt say there is a fine line sometimes in winning and losing at this level and especially in the SEC. I said from the first game when we lost Trenton Sturdivent that was going to hurt. People always made fun of Larry Munson for talking about how thin our offensive line was. Well this year that is very evident. Some just aren’t ready to play. I guarantee you they are being coached as well as anybody could. I’m sure the other coaches are busting their butts also. If Urban stays at Florida long enough, Saban at Alabama they will have a year where they will be 4 and 4 and wonder what to do. I believe in Coach Richt and I’m sure he knows what to do and he doesn’t need any help from you journalist, has beens, and you want to be coaches. I couldn’t blame him if he took his family and halled ass. He deserves better.

jesse james

November 4th, 2009
8:11 pm

I want to apologize to Coach Richt for all this negative talk. Anybody that saw the Spring Game should have known this could be a tough year. I’ve heard Coach Richt say there is a fine line sometimes in winning and losing at this level and especially in the SEC. I said from the first game when we lost Trenton Sturdivent that was going to hurt. People always made fun of Larry Munson for talking about how thin our offensive line was. Well this year that is very evident. Some just aren’t ready to play. I guarantee you they are being coached as well as anybody could. I’m sure the other coaches are busting their butts also. If Urban stays at Florida long enough, Saban at Alabama they will have a year where they will be 4 and 4 and wonder what to do. I believe in Coach Richt and I’m sure he knows what to do and he doesn’t need any help from you journalist, has beens, and you want to be coaches. I couldn’t blame him if he took his family and hauled ass. He deserves better.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
8:11 pm

Dawg1177. Agreed. Dawgs should win this one with relative ease. 17 to 21 points sounds about right. They may get a late score once we pull our starters, but this one should be over pretty early. Cox and co. should have a field day on the nats defense. While the nerds are giving their offense all the love, they’ve really played no one with the defensive teams speed and strength of the dawgs other than Clemson and we saw what the tigers did to them. Reshad Jones and Rennie Curren have monster games along with Adkins, Owens and Westin.

GT4LIFE

November 4th, 2009
8:21 pm

UGA fans are taking some of the steam out of kicking their butts at the end of the month!You guys are laying down like BIT$HES!!!ALREADY!!You can’t fool me though I know you are just setting up your excuses!!We are going to pound you punks!I remember Richt saying he would only run up the score against GT well guess what?We might go for 60!!!

thwg

November 4th, 2009
8:23 pm

Tony, Tony, Tony. Stop being such a homer and drop the whining about the schedule. UGA has for years filled it’s schedule with light weights under the guise that the SEC was so tough. Give me a break. OK State a tough out – did you see what TX did to them this past week. Who else besides GT represents any real challenge to UGA this year. And at the same time GT is playing THREE SEC teams as it’s out of conference games and 2 of them are on the road. PLUS, they played by far the toughtest ACC schedule – Clemson, FSU, and Wake from the other division! So please Tony, I respect you and your opinon, but your showing your ‘homer’ on this one way too much. Besides, I don’t recall FL complaining about it’s schedule last year – instead it went out and one all but 1 and a National Championship with it.

Patrick

November 4th, 2009
8:25 pm

HBTD, please don’t drink the bong water. It’s not good for you. I love UGA football but they have no chance against GT this year. GT has a coach. UGA has an over-paid, lackadaisical, wanna-be CEO who cannot fathom what it takes to win in the SEC. Period.

thwg

November 4th, 2009
8:28 pm

Dawg1177 – no question you’ll roll over GT with that bottom feeding defense that everyone is so proud of. And while you guys spend all your time chattering about Martinez, your Bobo lead offense I believe is almost dead last in just about every meaningful category. So I can certainly understand your optimism going against the nation’s 2nd leading rushing and top 5 offensive scoring jugernaut in Atlanta. Makes perfect sense, at least to a UGA fan that is delirious from being b***slapped by Florida yet again. Go Jackets!

Dawgcryer

November 4th, 2009
8:35 pm

Dawgs know we will kill them. Let them talk smack. They won’t be after Nov 28.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
8:36 pm

Young Patrick. A one game miracle does not translate into a trend. Dawgs win this one with ease by not going to sleep at the half. The HS offense works against some of the weaker teams in the ACC, but does not work against the strength and speed of some of the higher calibre teams with strength and speed – see Clemson, Miami, LSU and UGA (before taking sleep aid at the 1/2 last year).

thwg

November 4th, 2009
8:37 pm

Dawg1177 – one more thing, don’t forget to get trademark approval if you decide to roll into Atlanta disguised as Grambling University – how pathetic. Of course it’s only gonna get worse for ya when the GT spanks the dawgs on the hardcourt with our top 20 preseason and top 3 recruiting class. Good think you have the gym dogs – I just can’t seem to find anyone talking about women’s gymnastics on ESPN or talk radio – oh yeah, that’s because nobody gives a crap!

Alabama Jack

November 4th, 2009
8:40 pm

Its the uniforms, folks.

Limelight

November 4th, 2009
8:44 pm

If Tech fans are worried about getting beat by UGA this year, it certainly has nothing to do with UGA’s football team, because they’re just not that good. We’d be worried about our defense having a really bad game (which is possible). Dawgs are poorly coached, and just about lead the nation in penalties and turnover margin. Tech would have to beat themselves to lose any of the remaining 3 games.

Dawgcryer

November 4th, 2009
8:45 pm

uga should wear the black helmuts…that works well.

Patrick

November 4th, 2009
8:48 pm

HBTD, I wish I could buy into your failed atempt at logic. GT has the real deal this year and I don’t really like to admit it but UGA is toast against them. UGA has some SERIOUS issues on defense so how are they supposed to stop the GT running attack? If you watch GT play (obviously you have not) then you will see their OL guys cut-block on pretty much every running play. The GT OL is coached to cut-block and it works very well. Miami was very fortunate to have beat GT and did so with a fast defense and great passing. The UGA staff could watch film after film of GT’s offense and still have no clue. UGA – 30, GT 49.

Patrick

November 4th, 2009
8:51 pm

I meant ‘attempt’.

Limelight

November 4th, 2009
8:53 pm

I can’t believe Richt tried that black helmet thing last week, after that total blackout disaster last year. It seems to me like he has lost interest. If I were a bulldawg fan, I’d be pissed.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
8:53 pm

Patrick. The one thing the Dawg D has done is stop the run. It’s the passing that’s killed us. See the Miami and LSU beat down for the roadmap to an easy victory. Keep in mind, not all teams can replicate their defensive efforts because of the lack of strength and speed, but that want be a problem for the dawgs who also just happened to be a little be pi_ _ ed off right now. Some might be surprised at the relatively large margin of victory this year, but this really is an easy one to pick.

Dawgs07

November 4th, 2009
8:54 pm

Willie Martinez should get a raise

Paul in RDU

November 4th, 2009
9:02 pm

HBTD,

Are these the same Jones, Curren, Atkins, Owens and Weston who played in the game last year in Athens?. You know – the game where UGA gave up 45 points and over 400 yards on the ground.

How did they got so much faster, stronger and smarter in the last year? Is it improved coaching?
Perhaps the UGA was overprepared last year because they had an off week whereas this year only having one week will result in Marinez having them more prepared.

By the way – Shouldn’t you have said “Mark it down” when you made your prediction on the score?

tcr

November 4th, 2009
9:05 pm

#4. so Tony, every team UGA has played so far is a BCS school, I DON’T THINK SO….

Mark Richt

November 4th, 2009
9:05 pm

Here are my top 10 goals for now and the rest of the year:

1. Get Hines Ward in during the off season from the Steelers to teach my team professional, yet uncontrolled behavior on the field (so we don’t get penalities for our acts of thuggery).
2. Sign another top 10 recruiting class and then proceed to not coach them up and blame it on Willie.
3. Make sure all my Dawg fans believe we will win the National Title and beat Florida again in 2010.
4. Find a hit man to threaten the Tech and Vols coaches so they never recuit in Georgia again.
5. Offer Willie a 10-year extension for doing such a great job of game planning for our upset of the Gators next year.
6. Find another great leader like Joe Cox to lead my team to the National Championship and beat the Flordia Gators, once again, in 2010.
7. Place another video on a national website to distract everyone’s atention from my sorry a$$ coaching and leadership skills. Hey, it worked, didn’t it?
8. Move my former tailback to linebacker because I have no ability to judge or coach up the talent I recruit. Hey, he might even make a great QB some day if it doesn’t work out for him at LB.
9. On Saturday, against Tennessee Tech, get my players to perfect the art of thuggery against their QB so we can take out John Brantly next year and guarantee yet another victory against those “Gayturds” and that “Urban Crier sorry coach.”
10. Go to church every Sunday to prove to everyone that I am not what I appear to be, but I am what I do not appear to be. Man, I am good at deceiving.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
9:12 pm

Apparently another very slow day on the flats. Kind of funny how the nerds are having a good year by their standards and the dawgs are having a terrible year, and still everyone wants to talk about UGA………………….even the nerds – see above. LOL!! You guys are hopeless.

Driver 8

November 4th, 2009
9:17 pm

So CUM was shamed into suspending Spikes for the ENTIRE Vandy game. He sounds very sorry about the whole thing. In retaliation, he has asked the SEC to review a late hit on Tebow.

From now on, we’ll just gouge his QBs eyes out since that is no big deal.

Don’t worry coach, you’ll always have those “iconic” rings.

Richt's Job

November 4th, 2009
9:23 pm

Does UGa pay richt’s wife for working the water tray during the game? If so, how much???

Paul in RDU

November 4th, 2009
9:23 pm

Aahh HBTD
Congratulations on your comeback. When someone points out the lack of logic in your previous posts just change the subject.

Cautiously Optimistic

November 4th, 2009
9:26 pm

You know………if we say we will beat the nerds we are talking s**t, if we say we cant beat them we are laying down and setting up for excuses and are fairweather, so either way we are wrong. Why dont you Nerds just STFU!!!!! and go back into your hole with your queen. Win or lose this year, enjoy it while you can because we WILL dominate again SOON and ya’ll will either cry like the little b**ches you are or you will just stay off our blogs. P**sies!

BTW GT4Life, might go for 60? What is that 60 fans in your stadium? Good luck finding 55 more fans!

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
9:31 pm

Well, I’m guessing that the Tech TEAM will show up on Nov. 28; fans optional.

How have Miller and Boykin fared one on one against 6′3″ and 6′5″ WRs this season? The safeties will be busy with option responsibilities.

Paul in RDU

November 4th, 2009
9:32 pm

Driver 8,

It’s even worse than that. According to the AP, Brandon Spikes suspended himself.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4623708

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I always thought that Meyer was a good coach but his reaction in the case of the Spikes eye gouge incident is terrible. To quote a cliche, this was a “teachable moment” and he blew it.

If my 19 year old did something like Spikes the least of his problems would be the reaction of the refs.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
9:41 pm

Oh, I get it. Barnhart blogs are UGA blogs. Are Bradley blogs UGA blogs, too? What about Schultz? They seem like they are looking for comments, not one-sided blather.

Yellow Fuzz

November 4th, 2009
9:41 pm

georgia = Notre Dame

BadgerDawg

November 4th, 2009
9:42 pm

Miller and Boykin will have less problems on the 28th than they have had all year, one on one or not. Nesbitt is zero threat. Put eight or nine in the box and stop the run. Given UGA’s lack of discipline (especially on D) that still may not be enough.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
9:43 pm

Sorry, I’ll just SFTU or whatever that code means.

Limelight

November 4th, 2009
9:43 pm

Meyer missed big time on this one. Two quarters suspension and taking up for him was laughable.

Limelight

November 4th, 2009
9:45 pm

Put 8 or 9 in the box and get burned deep.

HBTD

November 4th, 2009
9:46 pm

BadgerDawg. BINGO!! This should be one of the easier wins for the dawgs this year.

College Football Fan

November 4th, 2009
9:47 pm

Oh Tony, another nice choice of topic.

More apologies for your alma mater.

Please tell us more about what a great coach Mark Richt is, and the players really arn’t that good, and they’d be doing better if they were playing 1AA schools. Why not add…reduce those rigorous academic standards that UGA imposes on their athletes?

And then you can write another retrospective on 29 years ago. Can’t get enought of that from you.

As always, keep up that hard hitting journalism.

P.S. Drop Ok St. and play Ga Southern. Then your 5-3 instead of 4-4, and everybody’s feeling good. Great idea!

hh

November 4th, 2009
9:48 pm

Yeah Ugay “chose” King over Dwyer. Dwyer flat turned them down for GT

Paul in RDU

November 4th, 2009
9:55 pm

Delbert – Love the comments on who owns the blogs.

Personally, I just have this strange idea that Barnhart, Bradley and Schultz are paid to write columns and blogs that people will read and respond to. All part of the AJC’s plan to earn money and stay in business instead of going C11 like many other newspapers in the last few years.
It means I have to accept 5 – 10 blogs (with associated postings) about UGA football for every 1 about GT.

BadgerDawg

November 4th, 2009
9:55 pm

I don’t believe that UGA has lost anyone to Tech that they really wanted besides Calvin Johnson in the last 7-8 years. Maybe Hobie Holiday was the last one before him? I don’t believe UGA wanted Dwyer although I saw he was offered.

BadgerDawg

November 4th, 2009
9:57 pm

King over him was clearly a first choice/fallback option scenario. Unfortunately, similar to us losing Jamal Lewis because we took Jasper Sanks.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
9:57 pm

BadgerDawg –
Nesbitt’s averaging 11.9 yards per pass attempt. 1172 yds, 6 TDs, 3 INT.

D. Thomas, 6′3″ 230 is averaging 24.9 yards per catch (91.4 per game).

Stephen Hill is the 6′5″ X-factor. Missed Vandy with the flu; averaging over 30 yards per catch when they don’t throw to Thomas.

A new wrinkle for the Vandy game was deep post to an A back. 87 yd. TD. The safety was 20 yards behind.

It’s not like last year.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
9:59 pm

Oh, yeah. Georgia really wanted Stephen Hill, to answer your question.

FLORIDA'S BEACHES

November 4th, 2009
10:04 pm

THIS YEAR IS A DREAM COME TRUE FOR THOSE OF US WHO TRULY & TOTALLY LOATHE THE “FLEA BAG NATION”!!! HERE’S TO “MANY MORE” SUCK AZZ YEAR’S TO YOU “LOSER’S”!!! YOU SUCK!!!

billy ray

November 4th, 2009
10:09 pm

atlanta is a bunch of fags and jeromes. get al ife you bunch of losers and start living the good life

bonique

November 4th, 2009
10:11 pm

is it me? does spikes llook like an ape

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
10:11 pm

Another difference from last year’s Tech offense is the A backs. There were 4 in the rotation last year, and still there were problems with the backfield routes and option pitches with some of them. This year Tech is using 6 A backs in the rotation, from 5′8 170 lb. to 6′1″ 230 lb. Mix and match, they are the guys that usually bring in the plays.

Limelight

November 4th, 2009
10:15 pm

Looks like Spikes was also offsides.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
10:16 pm

Finally, backs with TD runs (# of TDs):13, 8, 5, 3, 2, 1

bonique

November 4th, 2009
10:16 pm

delbert, are you a fine white boy

Limelight

November 4th, 2009
10:17 pm

Bonique: I think it’s just you. He looks/acts more like one of the Vick brothers, pick one.

Limelight

November 4th, 2009
10:18 pm

Speaking of Spikes, not Delbert.

bonique

November 4th, 2009
10:19 pm

fried chicken, cadillac car , we aint as dumb as you think we is

Joe Smaha

November 4th, 2009
10:19 pm

Georgia’s offense is too predictable, run on first down, if you gain 3-5 yards, run it again, if you still have 3 or more yards to go, then direct the snap straight to the quarterback for pass play or another hand off deep in the backfield. time and time again that is Bobo’s play calling. Start passing the ball on any and all downs, loosen up the opponents stacked in tight defenses against the run by becoming unpredictable

gay bob

November 4th, 2009
10:27 pm

cmr is a christian, urban is fine

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
10:28 pm

Tech has opened up with a pass in more than half the games this year. Passes are usually on first down when beyond Tech’s 30 yard line. On 3rd down and 8 or more, often a pass. Out around the 40, Tech will go for it about 50% of the time on 4th and 4 or less.

rusty

November 4th, 2009
10:29 pm

tebow looks like a crybaby wussy

Paul's Johnson

November 4th, 2009
10:30 pm

“atlanta is a bunch of fags and jeromes”

What is a “jerome” you cousin pumpin’ inbred?

“start living the good life”

what do you call the “good life”? Making $150.00 a week by making crack in the bathtub of your singlewide. Go wash your “Roll Tide” t-shirt and get up in the morning and ride your bicycle down to the unemployment office and attempt to find a job beacause us hard working tax payers are tired of paying the DirecTV bill of morons like yourself that are infiltrating our cheap entertainment portals.

Voyager Dawg

November 4th, 2009
10:32 pm

I think it’s cool that Florida fans still feel motivated to come on here and take shots….let’s us know they still care even though the series has turned in their favor. When they stop is when we have to worry. Georgia Tech fans enjoy it while you can. Richt has had Tech’s number every year since he’s been in Athens (with the exception of the second half of last year’s game). Lets look at this decade. From 2000-2009 Georgia has a 94-30 record, Florida has a 95-29 record and Tech has a 78-46 record. Richt is a winner. He will turn the ship around and make the tough decisions that have to be made, with integrity. True fans will support the program through thick and thin. Now is not the time to pile on, but to HUNKER DOWN and Support the team……the trade school and gator fans will take of the piling on (just watch your face guard when they do). Go Dawgs!

Paul's Johnson

November 4th, 2009
10:33 pm

The last post was for Billy Ray.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
10:34 pm

When the defense crowds the line on other than short yardage, Tech sometimes goes with wide line splits, 4-6 feet. FSU, UVA and VaTech ended up with two guys bunched on each of the tackles and two on the center. Nobody on the guards.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
10:39 pm

Well, that’s enough for now. If you haven’t seen Tech play, the offense is considerably more complex than last year. However, the defense is considerably worse. Most teams can figure it out pretty well. When the odd-looking schemes don’t work in the first half, you’ll probably see a base 4-3 in the second.

Paul's Johnson

November 4th, 2009
10:40 pm

Voyager Dawg:

Is that “Voyager Dawg” or “Voyeur Dawg” because I have pictures of my wife that I would be willing to swap for yours if you’re into that kinda stuff. Haha..no seriously.

toh3llwithgeorgia

November 4th, 2009
10:43 pm

I’ve got another one for him. When is he gonna get his tubes tied?

woofn

November 4th, 2009
10:49 pm

funny how so many talks about uga having these 5 star recruits…name 5 over the last 5 years?

billy ray

November 4th, 2009
10:50 pm

paul johnson,yo face looke like an ass (triple chin) a jerome is a non working obama voter

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
10:53 pm

Do players redshirting now count? If so, Aaron Murray, I think and AJ Bryant?? I don’t even know the Tech 5 stars.

Delbert D.

November 4th, 2009
10:55 pm

Now I’ve really got to check out for the evening…I’ll be back, on someone’s suitable blog.

nate

November 4th, 2009
11:01 pm

The problem is with the defense. Free Willie from his contract.

bubba

November 4th, 2009
11:04 pm

if eggs are 12 cent a dozen,how much could you buy for a dollar

cynthia mckinney

November 4th, 2009
11:06 pm

i miss white bread

bull-dykes

November 4th, 2009
11:06 pm

billy ray – you need to change the tire on your trailer. I bet you wouldn’t last 2 seconds against Paul Johnson.

billy ray

November 4th, 2009
11:09 pm

hey bull dyke you must be from atlanta ,the ghetto and triple chins

scott

November 4th, 2009
11:17 pm

Hey Tech fans …..:(you know, the ones here that are obsessed with Athens and UGA), they don’t write about Tech b/c nobody wants to read about Tech. Its supply/demand. Something not taught at a nerd school I guess. Enjoy your one good season, just hope we don’t ruin it for you Thx-giving weekend, boy that would be some funny stuff!

Maybe you Tech folks should give us some info/advice on how to handle bad seasons, you guys are very experienced in that arena.

Would just hate to knock you from the Orange Bowl, right to the nasty pit they call jacksonville/Gator Bowl

billy ray

November 4th, 2009
11:17 pm

atlanta sucks , no other way to put it. lived there ,done that. make good money on the gulf of mexico. i bet you still drink quick trip cofffee. sorry you are in a feild that you have to stay in the city.rather than a sunset , you see the smog .quiot hating you liberal scumbag

brenda

November 4th, 2009
11:21 pm

billy ray, will you marry me

Snott

November 4th, 2009
11:27 pm

And just how are you going to knock us out of the Orange Bowl? That bowl is decided in the ACCCG, idiot.

bull-dykes

November 4th, 2009
11:34 pm

billy ray – we all know you prefer rosie o’donnell with a strap on when she makes her booty call to your trailer.

Enjoy!

Observor

November 4th, 2009
11:49 pm

Billy Ray and Bubba (same person),

You got psychiatric problems buddy. You sound like a disgruntled, angry person. Get some help.

Nerd

November 4th, 2009
11:59 pm

George P

November 5th, 2009
5:17 am

You make it sound as if UGA chose King over Dwyer. According to Richt in his press conference before last year’s game, Dwyer made that decision, not Richt.

King Gator

November 5th, 2009
6:48 am

Georgia gets 4/5 star talent every year, but only has 3 star coaching.. enjoy the Peach Bowl

No Homer

November 5th, 2009
7:53 am

Why do you care so much Tony?
Why didn’t you write long and well thought out articles like this when GT was winning 7 games a year?
This article comes across as very homer to me.
The majority of football fans in the state of Georgia is happy when UGA is down because you have Auburn, Clemson, GT, UT, UF, Alabama fans who all don’t like UGA. So please start writing articles that the majority of fans care about Tony and quit showing your bias love for UGA. It lowers your readership.

Also, do you have confirmation that UGA wanted Caleb King over Dwyer?

iJax | Baker’s Dozen

November 5th, 2009
8:44 am

[...] the wake of another blowout loss to Florida and yet another opportunity lost for a signature win, Tony Barnhart isn’t alone in his assessment that Mark Richt needs to give his program a major overhaul at season’s end.  In an email from [...]

SPORTS GUY

November 5th, 2009
9:41 am

To Dizzog,

Why in the world would Kirby Smart want to come to UGA where the defense is considered second class citizens to the offense.? At Alalbama the defense comes first, and from everything I have watched and read Kirby Gets The Credit for the Defense….Not Gonna Happen….

[...] UGA football observer Tony Barnhart raised the issue this week when, as one of his questions facing Richt, he asked, “Is the [...]

Yellow Fuzz

November 5th, 2009
10:42 am

dog nation,

Great to see the jealosy that so many georgia fans (I hope you can hear me) have developed toward the new Tech Nation. Maybe you should have been kinder, gentler competitors in the past instead of obnoxious azzholes. But since that is your trailer park nature I say

1. Get used to it
2. Deal with it the best you can
3. STFU until you beat us again!

Dixie yookie

November 5th, 2009
12:40 pm

Mark; this season is over why not play all juniors the team of next year?

Dixie yookie

November 5th, 2009
12:52 pm

hart broken just to know G T is going to beat GA and there is also them War eagles. HAY Muson saturday fishing season came early this year.Sure makes a big man want to cry.

V for Victory

November 5th, 2009
4:38 pm

GO COMMODORES!!! KICK THE UGLY DAWG WITH OUR HOBNAIL BOOTS!!!

Abilene

November 7th, 2009
9:36 am

To all those who say that the problem at UGA is the coaching: You are correct.

To Damon Evans: Fire Richt after the Georgia Tech game, even if UGA wins (unlikely). Yes, it will play havoc with recruiting this year, but the bleeding will stop and we can start rebuilding with a winning coach, whoever that may be. And we can start being competitive at the highest levels again; i.e., the SEC championship and a BCS bowl.

billy

November 13th, 2009
3:36 pm

Richt will show his true character …or lack of ….and lack of backbone …if @the end of this season he keeps martinez and bozo on staff……..he knows he has some hard decisions to make …and to a large extent he knows what they are ….if drastic /needed changes are now made …then maybe Reverend Richt needs to go :)

billy

November 13th, 2009
3:37 pm

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>”.NOT made” …my bad …