Will Tebow break Herschel’s TD record in JAX?

 

 

Five burning questions as we head into the weekend:

 

 

1. Will Tim Tebow break Herschel Walker’s touchdown record against Georgia?  Walker, the 1982 Heisman Trophy winner, scored 49 rushing touchdowns in his three seasons at Georgia. Tebow, the 2007 Heisman Trophy winner, has 48 rushing touchdowns in about 3 ½ seasons at Florida. You have to figure that Tebow will break Walker’s record in Saturday’s game in Jacksonville. That’s a tremendous accomplishment for a quarterback, but it is worth noting that Walker scored five touchdowns in three Sugar Bowl appearances (1980-82). Those touchdowns are not included in Walker’s records because only recently did the NCAA start counting post-season statistics in career totals.

 

2. What will Lane Kiffin do if he gets a bad call against South Carolina? The Tennessee coach was reprimanded for the second time this year by the SEC after complaining about the officiating in the Alabama-Tennessee game. He complained that his team was called for eight penalties while Alabama was only flagged once, which is correct. He complained that Alabama should have been flagged for a penalty when Terrence Cody ripped off his helmet after blocking a Volunteer field goal. That’s debatable. After what happened in the Georgia-LSU game, there is no way that call was going to be made. He complained that Tennessee should have gotten one more chance at the field goal to win the game. On that one he was wrong. The rule is clear. Even if a penalty had been called, Alabama would have retained possession.

 

But what happens if Kiffin gets a bad call in Saturday’s game with South Carolina? A piece of advice to the young Tennessee coach: Complain privately, not publicly. You have two strikes. If the SEC office has to deliver a third reprimand it will not be pretty.

 

3. How many times will Dexter McCluster touch the ball against Auburn? It looks like Ole Miss has found the answer to its struggling offense: Get the ball to No. 22, Dexter McCluster. Against Arkansas McCluster had 22 rushes for 123 yards and caught seven passes for 137 yards. If you’re keeping score at home he touched the ball 29 times for 260 yards. I’m not real good at math but I can tell you that’s almost nine yards for every time he touched the ball. Look for a bunch of McCluster in Saturday’s game at Jordan-Hare Stadium.

 

4. What’s the over/under on Georgia Tech’s time of possession against Vanderbilt? Georgia Tech leads the nation in time of possession, averaging 34:50 per game. Vanderbilt, conversely, is 117th (out of 120) nationally with only 26:42 per game. “That puts more pressure on us to score,” Vanderbilt running back Warren Norman told The Tennessean newspaper. “We just have to score on every single drive to keep up with them, basically.” But that’s another problem for Vanderbilt, which is 110th nationally in scoring offense, averaging only 16.63 points per game.

 

5. Do you think Duke would like to have that game with Richmond back? The Blue Devils are 4-3 after wins over N.C. State (49-28) and Maryland (17-13). Duke has to find two wins in its final five games with Virginia (Saturday in Charlottesville), North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Miami, and Wake Forest in order to qualify for its first bowl game since 1994. The Blue Devils would need only one more win to become bowl-eligible had they taken care of business in the opener with Division I-AA Richmond (a 24-16 loss).

 

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Dog Island Gator

October 29th, 2009
6:31 am

Bubba

October 29th, 2009
6:40 am

Herschel did it in 3 years.

FLorida Dawg Fan

October 29th, 2009
6:46 am

I believe that Florida will do all it can to allow Tebow to break the record against the Dawgs. As a loyal fan of the Dawgs I hope that when he does break the record that we act with class and admiration for Tim. I would love to see the Georgia fans stand and applaud for such an accomplishment. We should never stoop to the level of disrespect that the Gators tend to show. Go Dawgs!! Keep all of them out of the endzone and win with respect!!!

Facts

October 29th, 2009
6:49 am

Duke actually needs 3 more wins. Their win over North Carolina Central was against a ‘provisional’ FCS team, and thus does not count. This has been clarified by both the NCAA and Duke sports information office on the ACC blog on the worldwide leader. That makes the loss to Richmond THAT much harder to swallow.

Shellgator

October 29th, 2009
6:57 am

Hey…Bubba,,,,,,reseach HOW MANY times Mr. Walker carried the ball to get HIS record…double what Tebow has carried AND don’t forget…running the ball was all Herschel did,,he was not a QB!
As for Gators being disrespectful….I guess the dwags storming the field when they won in 07 was out of respect???????? Go Gators!!!!!!

SimpleDawg

October 29th, 2009
7:15 am

You can bet the house that the Urbane Crier will do everything he can to ensure that Tebow breaks Herschel’s record against Georgia.

Doesn’t matter….Herschel is still The Man ! Even with all of his eccentricities, Herschel is still the most celebrated player in SEC history.

Tebow has his place in college football history….Herschel has his.

If the Dawgs were to beat Florida Saturday, even “The Ol’ Ball Coach” would have to smile at the “deja vu all over again”….another Heisman Trophy winner’s unblemished season deviled.

It sure would be sweet.

SimpleDawg

October 29th, 2009
7:17 am

Sorry….Typo.
……….unblemished season defiled.

Hey, Shellgator...

October 29th, 2009
7:19 am

…if you want to play that game, compare how many times Tebow “touches” the ball (as the QB, every play) vs how many times Herschel “touched” the ball and you will see that you have made a very weak argument.

Well, DUH...

October 29th, 2009
7:20 am

…that record will be broken in the first quarter, probably on the first UF drive – what a totally dumb a$$ question and topic!

warhorse

October 29th, 2009
7:21 am

The only reason Herschel did not get the additional year is his personal choice to bail out on his team for the NFL. Tim came back to help his team. Football is a team sport, not like track and field or martial arts, Herschel’s other sports. Tebow is the ultimate team guy and the record will be his because he showed that he is a team guy. 15 over 34 is not new math — it is merely the consequences of personal choices.

OrlG8r

October 29th, 2009
7:27 am

This whole Walker/Tebow debate is simply silly. Hands down, Walker was a better rusher than Tebow will ever hope to be. Tebow is a better quarterback than Walker could have dreamed to be. Tebow will most likely score more touchdowns than Walker. So what ….

bamaguy

October 29th, 2009
7:33 am

The fact that Walker left college early for the cash and Tebow didn’t is all the more reason Tebow deserves the record.

MIke

October 29th, 2009
7:35 am

Tony,
I bet you Kiffin will complain publicly one more time this year. Slive wants no part of suspending a coach at the expense of the referees. The SEC has taken too much heat about officiating already this year and the media/ESPN is eating it up. Kiffin knows he can press the issue regarding officiating. Heck, even if got suspended, can you imagine the media storm/publicity he would get from it?

#2 BAMA FAN

October 29th, 2009
7:37 am

Tebow will break the record against the dawgs because he is the running back playing quarterback!!
GO DAWGS!!

Nachos

October 29th, 2009
7:40 am

GIT R DONE !

WTH

October 29th, 2009
7:42 am

GT will have about 43 minutes of possession and will definitely have over 50 yards rushing by the end of the third quarter.

Mike

October 29th, 2009
7:42 am

Tony, doesn’t Dook need 3 more wins, not two to become bowl eligible at 7-5 since they played a team that wasn’t even FCS caliber? Go back and do your math again…

Fleischman in Chi Town's bed

October 29th, 2009
7:55 am

Big surprise a UGAy homer bringing Herschel Talker into a conversation.

Saint Simons

October 29th, 2009
8:02 am

Florida 77 uga 0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At halftime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another Ed

October 29th, 2009
8:04 am

Hershel was definitely a great player. Of that there is no doubt, and cannot be argued. However to say, “Herschel is still the most celebrated player in SEC history” is definitely debatable. Perhaps that is true for GA fans, but for the entire SEC I think there can be an argument.

Something else to note, how many extra games do teams play now then when Walker played? Those extra games do help pad the stats.

There was some debate a while back regarding going back and including post season stats for former players since they are now included for current players. Anyone know what became of that?

Coach O

October 29th, 2009
8:05 am

Tebow didn’t enter the draft last year because the NFL didn’t want him. Tim’s a great athlete — not a great quarterback. His prospects are better this year because the NFL is beginning to experiment with gimmick offenses. Gimmick offenses work pretty well if you have the right athletes.

JP owns DJ

October 29th, 2009
8:13 am

Jacksonville, FL may be the redneck capital of the world this weekend with Jawja and Gaytor fans in town.

What a bunch of drunk necks!

Fat American

October 29th, 2009
8:14 am

Tony

Not sure about the record but I’m betting this is the weekend that Urban smooches Timmy.

mightyKC

October 29th, 2009
8:14 am

Hey, Shellgator…

“…if you want to play that game, compare how many times Tebow “touches” the ball (as the QB, every play) vs how many times Herschel “touched” the ball and you will see that you have made a very weak argument.”

genius, then why not count Tim’s TOUCHDOWN passes in the argument?

people, don’t be so dense. not only does tim get penalized in all of his rushing statistics when he gets sacked (and boy, this year it’s a LOT of yards), he has CARRIED THE BALL 400 fewer times than Herschel.

I don’t care if Jim Bob Cooter played 8 years, if he can break TIM’s record in half the carries that Tim has, he deserves some recognition.

Listen, UF fans know HW was one of the best players in all of college football. We saw what he did and respect him. Why can’t Mutts do the same for TT? There is no reason to make excuses about Tim’s record. And tony and all the rest of the geniuses out there always point out the disparity in years played, but i’ve noticed none are smart enough to talk about carries….which is more indicative of ones chances to score on a running play.

ugaGATOR

October 29th, 2009
8:14 am

Tebow playing in his hometown and last FL/GA game? Yea he’ll get it. And doesn’t matter if you do it in 3 years or 4 years. A record is a record. One day, us Gator fans are going to have to deal with the fact that Tebow’s record will be broken. Either way it’s a great accomplishment for a great player.

#2 BAMA FAN

October 29th, 2009
8:14 am

St Simons you may be a little off on that 77 to 0 score at half!! Perhaps a 17-7 score at halftime, but
you make me laugh at making fun of the dawgs!! RTR

Jacket

October 29th, 2009
8:17 am

Hushell was a running back. Tebow is a quarterback. That is quite an accomplishment for a quarterback.

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 29th, 2009
8:17 am

To bad Duke can’t play the Dawgs.

KJ

October 29th, 2009
8:21 am

“The fact that Walker left college early for the cash and Tebow didn’t is all the more reason Tebow deserves the record.”

I guess this is the retard argument du jour. Once again, HW was offered millions to leave. Nobody gets offered millions to hold a clipboard. But I’m sure Tebow would have turned down millions anyway, because Jesus told him to, right?

Haywood Jabiteme

October 29th, 2009
8:21 am

You guys are grouping all of Hoishell’s touchdowns into one personality. Wouldn’t it be fairer to break them up between the ones that made them?

Haywood Jabiteme

October 29th, 2009
8:23 am

KJ is a sad loser.

Gen Neyland

October 29th, 2009
8:25 am

Ever notice we can always find the need for an asterick behind record breakers..? The TD thing is for trivial pursuit, yet the question ought to arise, ‘How many TD passes did Herschel throw to go along with his rushing TD’s’… CLK won’t become SEC football’s version of baseball’s Bobby Cox. But he does have the right to voice his opinion to the Side judge. Stop with it there…According to the DC Fantasy League, Ole MS RB’s ought to have a decent day…

KJ

October 29th, 2009
8:26 am

I am sad, but it’s mainly because abortions like yourself are likely leeching off my tax dollars.

tim

October 29th, 2009
8:31 am

On and on and on you puppy losers continue to minimize Tebow who will break the record in the 1st quarter on Sat and probably finish with about 60 rushing and 150 total touchdowns…one thing’s for certain the puppies haven’t won anything on a national level for 29 years..29 years. You will once again get your asses kicked by the mighty Gators and guess what you will also get that same ass kicked next year with Brantley at QB face it ladies the puppies are and always will be the Gators bitch..your fans will be piling out of the stadium early in the 3rd quarter just like last year.

Eric

October 29th, 2009
8:39 am

Who cares about the damn record? When I encountered Hurtchel he was a jerk. Just don’t let Tebone skin his knee. That would be a disaster of international proportions. We’d miss a whole week of news from around the world. And he might miss out on another Heisman….and Marcia Ingram might win it. We sure as hell don’t want that. It would break bammers stread of NO Heisman winners….ever!

leland

October 29th, 2009
8:40 am

Dear Mr. CF–you may not be good at math as you noted, but you sure can write. You could even improve the latter by using quadruple spaces between paragraphs–that would be 33% more that triple spacing and surely at least 33% better. Your pal, Leland

UGASlobberknocker

October 29th, 2009
8:45 am

The best thing about Tebow this week is that this is his last Ga/Fla game.

m

October 29th, 2009
8:45 am

Just admit it…the sec SUCKS this year.

DJ (Big XII)

October 29th, 2009
8:46 am

If Florida had a true running back. (That’s what T-Bone, I meant Tebow is in disguise.) He would not be nowhere near the record. He’s no different than that Gerhart kid out at Stanford. Just another smacker being a hoggish bull.
All records are meant to be broken, no matter what. Just ask the non-steroid users in baseball. If really funny how GA fans wants T-Bone to break the record. Typical southerners, ain’t nothing changed. Darren McFadden should have been the first sophomore to be get the Heisman. Then again, Tebow is your typical All-American white boy.

Eric

October 29th, 2009
8:46 am

BTW, is Auburn still in the league?

Got 12?

October 29th, 2009
8:49 am

But does Tebow have a Zaxby’s commercial? That’s what’s really important.

Short and Sweet

October 29th, 2009
8:49 am

1. Yes. But it still won’t get him the Heisman this year.

2. Have his dad publicly complain about the bad calls.

3. 23

4. LOL! This is one game where TOP won’t matter. GT should score quickly and often.

5. Any Div 1A team that loses to a Div 1AA team should be automatically disqualified from post season play, regardless of their final record.

Dooley's Cardiologist

October 29th, 2009
8:50 am

Tebow has had to put the Offense on his back all year. At least one of their TD’s will be his. Don’t know that he breaks it, but he’s gonna tie it. Also, I think there should be a factor that is used when calculating TD’s for quarterbacks. Something like: # of rushing TD’s X 1.01. I’m just saying…

Hey MIghtyKC...

October 29th, 2009
8:53 am

…the reason you do not count Tim’s TD passes is because he cannot pass to himself! The record is for TD’s scored, not TD’s scored AND TD’s assisted. If I was really pithy I would say, in repsonse to your comment, that well, you have to count all the times someone else scored when the other team THOUGHT that Herschel was going to get the ball!

Oh, I guess I am pithy! This is such a stupid argument – I am not even a UGA fan, so I really must get a life!

TommyJack

October 29th, 2009
8:53 am

dawgs/gators. The one game per annum I pull for the dawgs.

athensdawg

October 29th, 2009
8:55 am

1. You win big games with defense. Georgia doesn’t have a defense. Therefore, they won’t win a big game.

2.Let Kiffy complain about the refs. I think it is a good thing that people are questioning the almighty SEC…..maybe there wouldn’t be so many stupid calls if a spotlight was continuously shined up their collective backsides….

3.Ole Miss should have been giving the ball to McCluster the whole season…on every play.

4. Go Jackets – growing up watching triple option football – I’ve got to say I enjoy watching tech’s offense…..it’s amazing how we have almost come full circle in college football – people are running the single wing (spread) and now CPJ is bringing the triple option back….

5. Let’s hope that damon evans doesn’t schedule uga to play duke in football. david cutcliffe owns georgia.

let us just hope that damon evans doesn’t have plans to put duke on the football schedule.
david cutcliffe OWNS georgia…

Tom M

October 29th, 2009
9:01 am

Look I’m a diehard Gator fan- Tebow will break the record of 49. And most likely at his normal level of play he’ll break the 55 too. But for ALL sports there needs to be time period records, not talking about # of years played- but as in generational. Every time the sport changes, new records need to be set, with the previous one left for that generation.

Think about it, not only did Herschel’s record exist w/o bowl games, it also existed w/o SEC championship= that’s 6 ( most likely 7) more games Tebow has had a chance to play in- oh wait we also added in a 12th game- so make that 10 (most likely 11) more games= a FULL YEAR of games.

Herschel chose the money from the USFL (Really? Not the NFL?!!– mind you he did wise up)- so be it. Can’t hold that extra year of play against Tebow. But I say the same for MLB, NFL, etc records. All records will be broken sooner or later (with the exception of games started by Cal Ripken Jr and most likely Brett Farve)- just not fair to compare those newly set records that have the advantage of extra games played when not all games count (in the case of bowl records) or even when there isn’t the same number of games played.

But alas this is the fault with sports and their stats…

GatorGuy

October 29th, 2009
9:04 am

Lane wanted another chance to kick a field goal because Cody took his helmet off? Lane did not know the rules? Shocking!

DawgGirl32

October 29th, 2009
9:07 am

1. I’m pretty sure this “Tebow breaking Hershel’s record but not really” deal really only matters to Gator fans. Sure, it provides some more drama for the WLOCP, but no one else really cares. Most intelligent people know that trying to compare the two records is like comparing apples to oranges. By the way, can you imagine how many touchdowns Hershel would have run up on the likes of a Charleston Southern? Ouch.

2. If Lane Kiffin wants to keep his “street cred,” as he put it, from being mentioned in a Lil Wayne song, he’ll definitely speak up. Even if it means he’ll be punished. He has a way of saying how he feels without necessarily saying it explicitly.

3. I wish Georgia played more teams like Duke, Virginia, and Maryland. That’s almost like having a bye week.

Who else is going to Jax this weekend??

Mr. College Football is a Fraud

October 29th, 2009
9:08 am

Tebow 2 National Championships and Counting, Walker 1 (and done)