Can Georgia Tech finally win at Virginia?

Five burning questions as we head into the weekend:

 

1. Can Georgia Tech win on the road again? The Yellow Jackets have already won impressively at Florida State and Mississippi State. But winning at Charlottesville has proven to be a tough thing to do lately for Tech. I was at Virginia in 1990, the last time Georgia Tech won up there in what was one of the better games I have ever seen. Tech has played in Charlottesville eight times since and lost some heartbreakers. In 1999 Tech was 6-1 and ranked No. 7 when the Jackets lost 45-38. In 2001 they were 6-2 and lost 39-38. This season Virginia and Al Groh seemed headed off the deep end when they started 0-3. Now they have won three straight and are starting to find some answers on offense. This will not be an easy game for Georgia Tech. In case you were wondering about those eight Georgia Tech losses they were:

1992: L, 55-24

1995: L, 41-14

1997: L, 35-31

1999: L 48-35

2001: L, 39-38

2003: L, 29-17

2005: L, 27-17

2007: L, 28-23

 

2. How badly will Alabama take Jonathan Crompton out of his comfort zone? The Tennessee quarterback had an excellent game against Georgia on Oct. 10. But in that game he had time to throw because Georgia could not put pressure on him. The Alabama defense does a lot of things well. But one  thing the Bama defense does very well is take quarterbacks out of their comfort zone. Tyrod Taylor (Virginia Tech), Ryan Mallett (Arkansas), Jevan Snead (Ole Miss) and Stephen Garcia (South Carolina) combined for 38.5 percent passing against the Alabama defense. Here is the breakdown of what the Alabama defenses did against these quarterbacks:

Quarterback———————-Att/Comp——–Yds——TD—–Int

Tyrod Taylor (Va. Tech)———-9/20————–91——-0——-0

Ryan Mallett (Ark)—————-12/35———–160——-1——-1

Jevan Snead (Ole Miss)————11/34———140——–0——4

Stephen Garcia (S. Carolina)———20/46———214———0——1

Total—————————52/135 (38.5 pct)—-605——-1——-5

 

3. Can Clemson do Georgia Tech a favor and knock off Miami? Clemson really impressed me last week when the Tigers dominated Wake Forest 38-3. You normally don’t see a Jim Grobe team get beat that badly. With RB C.J. Spiller and QB Kyle Parker, and an improving defense, Clemson has enough athletes to make a game of it if the Tigers don’t beat themselves with dumb mistakes. Georgia Tech basically needs Miami to lose if the Jackets are going to have a realistic chance of winning the Coastal Division and going to the ACC championship game.

 

4. Can Boston College beat Notre Dame for the seventh straight time?  This series is tied at 9-9 and the Eagles always seem to give one of their better efforts against their sister Catholic institution. Notre Dame lost a gut-wrencher last week at home to Southern Cal. How much did that take out of the team? Jon Tenuta’s Irish defense is still struggling. Boston College has found a running back in sophomore Montel Harris, who had 264 yards and scored five touchdowns in a 52-20 win over N.C. State. If Notre Dame (4-2) loses it will eliminate any hope the Irish had of going to a BCS bowl.

 

5. Can Auburn get back on track? The Tigers started 5-0 and got their fans, many of whom were expecting the worst in the first year under Gene Chizik, a little excited. But in the past two weeks Auburn has struggled, first on the road against Arkansas (a 44-23 loss) and then at home against Kentucky (a 21-14 loss). Now the questions abound. Auburn had only one offensive touchdown against Kentucky. Quarterback Chris Todd, who started out so hot, has cooled considerably as defenses have adjusted. The defense had problems against a Kentucky team that had lost its starting quarterback. But in the SEC it’s tough to get things turned around once they start going sour. You just don’t have many chances to breathe. Auburn has to figure things out during a trip to LSU. Auburn hasn’t won in Baton Rouge since 1999, Tommy Tuberville’s first season as coach. Two years ago LSU threw a touchdown pass with one second left to win 30-24.

Here are the results of Auburn’s last four trips to LSU:

 

2001: L, 27-14

2003: L, 31-7

2005: L, 20-17

2007: L, 30-24

 

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Frank

October 22nd, 2009
9:21 am

Atlanta Gator, Alabama will beat UT, but the Tennessee OL has been one of the better ones in the league. Rusking stats are way up and sacks are way down. They certainly held their own against the Gators…

Sunshine

October 22nd, 2009
9:21 am

Josten, that actually is a good idea with the “I heart Willy” Shirt. Time to get to the printing press!

gdawginkalamazoo

October 22nd, 2009
9:23 am

1) Tech wins easy.
2) Bama makes Crompton well look like a Crompton.
3) No and even if they do Miami goes to the ACC CG
4) As much as people up here hate it, ND wins this one easy
5) If Auburn doesn’t get back on track all they have to do is wait until they play us. Then Burns looks like a Heisman contender.

TH Jefferson

October 22nd, 2009
9:24 am

Techsters,

Please refrain from referring to my university as “UVA.” We are not some trade school on some North Ave. The University of Virginia, The University, or Mr. Jefferson’s University will do. If you must, U.Va. will suffice.

Sunshine

October 22nd, 2009
9:27 am

gdawginkalamazoo, if Miami loses one and GT wins the rest of the conference games, then GT goes. Also if Miami loses an OOC game, GT should be ahead enough in the BCS to go to the ACC CG.

Hey Dogtards

October 22nd, 2009
9:31 am

“If you’re a big time QB prospect, do you go to Tech to run the wishbone? Same for big time RB’s and WR’s. Recruits with any thoughts of playing at the next level are not going to go to Tech.”

Well, first we aren’t going after the same pocket passers that compromise most “big time QB prospects.” We are going after the Tebow, Pat White, Mike Vick, Tyrod Taylor etc. types. For example, I doubt Logan Gray would have gone to uog had Paul Johnson been at Tech during his recruiting. Will we get a great QB every year? Probably not. But you only need one every four or five years to be successful, and that’s all uog gets anyways (Stafford was the last great one y’all got, five years ago). We’ve already built some pretty good depth at the position, redshirting two guys including a four star and a three star. Not that stars matter in Atlanta. I know they do in Athens. But, like Spurrier said, georgia gets all these great players, you just never know what happens to them. I trust CPJ to scout talent better than the online recruiting sites who don’t coach and base their rankings off who offers who.

And re RB/WR, that’s just plain dumb.

RB stats, comparison between Tech and uog (and this isn’t including Nesbitt’s 625 rushing yards).

Dwyer, GT 593
Allen, GT 367
Samuel, uog, 335
King, uog, 135

Just to be clear, there are THREE players at Tech with more rushing yards than anyone at uog. So, you might be asking, why would you want to go to uog to be a third rate running back behind a subpar offensive line? Answer – you wouldn’t. That’s why Mack Brown didn’t go to uog. GT will be churning RBs into the NFL, starting with Dwyer. You’d be a fool to pick uog over TECH if you are a RB.

So that must mean that AJ Green is tearing it up, right? Yeah he is. 682 yards. BUT WAIT, Bey Bey has 671 yards and had more than Green until last game. With a relatively weak passing defense schedule remaining, Bey Bey should end up with more yards.

Amazing, that “high school” “gimmick” offense has three players with more rushing yards, and its leading WR is about 10 yards away from the leading WR on a “pro style” offense.

Not only that, why would you want to go to uog if you are a stud WR? Both AJ and Bey Bey are solid WRs, and I’ll admit that AJ is probably a better nfl prospect. But because of uog’s offense, AJ faces double coverage game in and game out. With CPJ’s offense, a defensive coordinator can’t put two guys on one receiver or else they will give up a home run on the ground.

Does uog’s offense throw more? Yes. But if I’m a big time receiver I’d rather have less looks with single coverage than more looks with double coverage. When was the last time AJ wasn’t double teamed in a game? Last year? That happens to Bey Bey every single game.

In sum – different QBs, better RBs, equal top WR stats with arguably less talent. Better WR situations. The question isn’t why would anyone want to go to Tech, the question is why would anyone want to go to uog?

Gen Neyland

October 22nd, 2009
9:32 am

Borrowed stats from Alabama and Tennessee sites this morning. The following popped up :

McElroy (TX) leads Crompton (NC) in nearly every stat with the exception of two :
Sacks taken, McElroy 8-Crompton 6.
Touchdowns, McElroy 9-Crompton 13.

From that point, Attempts/completions are very close with McElroy at 173/103 and Crompton at 177/102…Total yards has McElroy at 1325, Crompton at 1210. Completion ratio has McElroy at 59.5% to Crompton’s 57.6%.

The most glaring stat is INT’s with Crompton throwing 9 and McElroy 3…

While we’re at it, Ingram (MI) has 905 yds on 135 carries with an avg of 6.7 per, 3 TD’s and 0 fumbles.

Hardesty (NC) has 672 yds on 125 carries with an avg of 5.4 per, 6 TD’s and 0 fumbles.

This game should be played mainly on the ground. We’ll see some air game because it’ll be necessary, not because it’s their respective styles. Ingram should break 1000 yds Saturday…

Hey Dogtards

October 22nd, 2009
9:33 am

“Please refrain from referring to my university as “UVA.” We are not some trade school on some North Ave. The University of Virginia, The University, or Mr. Jefferson’s University will do. If you must, U.Va. will suffice.”

How about the DBag Cookie Cutter U?

Shallow University?

http://people.virginia.edu/~sfr/enlt214m/wahoo/

gdawginkalamazoo

October 22nd, 2009
9:33 am

Eric, evidently more than one team practices that tape or markning thing. I bet the refs look for it now.

Hal

October 22nd, 2009
9:33 am

Ramble:
TB finally throws the dice GT’s way, twice in the same article and you’re still griping. Couple points real quick, GT won’t be finishing with just 1 loss, that’s happening… deal with that. Both Bama or UF won’t have more than 1 loss. One of the 2 will likely have a 2nd loss (counting the SEC Championship game) but no more. It would be highly, highly unlikely and Tony said as much to see them rematch, frankly no one cares to see that.

But the first thing I thought when I saw this headline was, “well good, Tone threw a bone GT’s way… ramble, jacket and others will finally be happy.” Oh well, you guys must have a real inferiority complex huh? Btw, you never did reply to your pal Furman Bisher being involved in the Bear Bryant/Wally Butts scandle???

Paul H

October 22nd, 2009
9:35 am

Sunshine and the rest of the techsters – you beat UGA once, didn’t go to your conference championship game and got blown out in your bowl game which was in your own backyard.

In short, you’ve done nothing. Come back when you’ve accomplished something.

Gen Neyland

October 22nd, 2009
9:37 am

Alabama People : Is it okay if I wear my #14 Orange jersey on Saturday in the comfort and privacy of my own basement while watching the game..?

Paul H

October 22nd, 2009
9:37 am

Dear “Hey Dogtards” – William and Mary used to be an all girls school.

U-no

October 22nd, 2009
9:40 am

It really doesn’t matter who thinks who is better. Win and keep winning and the rest takes care of itself. If Tech wins out we will see how things work out. If we don’t, well, it is what it is. We are winning right now and that is what counts. We need to win on Saturday, in a tough place to play. UVA (no disrespect to Mr. Jefferson)has always play GT tough. This should be a hard fought game with the outcome being determined in the last few minutes of the game. I think we will see the CPJ has our Yellow Jackets ready and our “gimick” offense will do the job.

Geez, you gotta love all the puppy pee over our offense! Reality is hard to argue with though, and the reality is that the pups just can’t stand that we showed them up in their own back yard!

Paul H

October 22nd, 2009
9:40 am

I am just a dog fan in denial. Have we actually accomplished anything? No, but our stadium is bigger! I know our last national championship was in 1980, but I like Richt. Unfortunatley those techsters have the best coach in the state, and I know we at UGA are in for some long years to come.

Atlanta Gator

October 22nd, 2009
9:41 am

Apparently “TH Jefferson” did not attend the University of Virginia. If he had, he would know that the University is commonly referred to in print as “UVA” or more commonly, “UVa,” by students, faculty and residents of the Commonwealth. For the record, the acronym is pronounced “you-vee-ay.”

Wahoo-wah, Cavs.

gdawginkalamazoo

October 22nd, 2009
9:42 am

Or being SEC refs maybe not. Probably call a celebration penalty instead. Or personal foul.

Not Disappointed!

October 22nd, 2009
9:44 am

It should be a good game @ Virginia. I do expect the Jackets to win.

Rambin Wreck!

Paul H

October 22nd, 2009
9:44 am

Hahaha… nerds are so funny. Disguising their names by using my name. Very clever. By the way, how many conference championships have you won this decade? How many BCS bowls have you played in? But you’re right, UGA hasn’t accomplished anything either. Surrrrre…

You can go back to your game of world of warcraft now.

Atlanta Gator

October 22nd, 2009
9:45 am

Uh, Paul H, the College of William & Mary was never an all-girl school. It is the second oldest college in America, after Harvard, and it was founded as an all-male school, because women did not attend college in 1693.

Tide4u2c

October 22nd, 2009
9:46 am

RAMBLE ON!!!,

I did’nt know Tony could set the stage for a UF/Bama NC game to keep it in the SEC.No but for real if Georgia Tech wants respect then don’t lose another game.Sure I know it is not easy but it is the only way to earn respect.Just don’t lose another game.

Hal

October 22nd, 2009
9:48 am

Paul H, you’re obviously posing as a UGA fan….

U-No… GT has a 1 game winning streak against UGA, no problem there at all. We will gladly give you guys 1 every 7 years. Beating us in our own back yard really isn’t an issue either. No matter which stadium we play in, yours or ours the University (system) of Georgia owns it and we have more Red & Black in your stadium than you do gold.

Now, what did rankle our feathers was the classless way your players broke pieces of the hedges in Sanford Stadium and paraded around. Your coach should have reacted the way ours did when we stomped on Vandy’s midfield logo. They won the game, fare and square, they should have acted like they’ve done it before…. oh my mistake, those players hadn’t ever done so before.

PMC

October 22nd, 2009
9:49 am

Jonathan Crompton’s comfort zone is playing against the UGA defense… I’d say he’ll be well away from that Saturday.

Kirby Smart is well aware of the existance of the play action pass.

Hal

October 22nd, 2009
9:49 am

Ah and the REAL Paul H speaks up between posts, apologies to the real man.

slaw_dawg

October 22nd, 2009
9:50 am

LSU’s offense is sloppy, they havent found their grove yet. But Auburn’s defense in banged up. This should be the game LSU get’s their offense in gear…..im wondering why miles hasnt switched QBs yet

RedGrange

October 22nd, 2009
9:52 am

TH Jefferson-

Bite it, hard you doofus.

U-no

October 22nd, 2009
9:53 am

Oh, for crying out loud! I have been going to GT games since 1960. I have been to the battle between the hedges on many occasions and there have been several times the hedges have been clipped after a GT win. Not the first time last year, and will certainly not be the last. Bragging rights do belong to the winner…it’s been that way since the first game GT and the pups ever played!

Governor

October 22nd, 2009
9:55 am

Hey Hey Paula H:

According to the State of Georgia Board of Regents,
UGA has an enrollment of 65% Female and 35% Male.

Doesnt that kind of make UGA…a girl’s school? Bwaa Ha Ha Ha

I imgaine that 35% represents many of the “Special Admissions” that UGA uses to recruit players that cant even quality for a HOPE scholarship.

BTW, Time……the “depth of my gut” just clogged up the toilet.
Go take care of that.

BTW, RogerDawg, the only thing I can hear over the Roar of the GT Crowd,
is UGA’s season “circling the bowl.”

GTSteve

October 22nd, 2009
9:57 am

Tony, I watched your show last night and was wondering a couple of things. How can you do a 1 1/2 hour show going over the mid season report of college football and the first BCS rankings of the year and not spend any time on the ACC or GA Tech. The only mention of GA Tech was at the very end when you were calling out the refs this year and you mentioned some “questionable calls during the GA Tech game”. First of all the ACC has 3 teams in the top 15 of the BCS, doesn’t take a genius to figure our that is 20 percent, but did the ACC get 20 percent of your show……But I know it is CBS, and we all know the love affair that CBS and ESPN has for the SEC…Do you remember the play where Josh Nesbitt stole the fumble back from the FSU player a couple of weeks ago to probably save the game…We were joking yesterday if Tim Tebow did something like that, what ESPN would have done. They would have stopped every other game in the country to show the replay on the big screen at each stadium and then went ahead and presented him with the Heisman trophy. Come on Tony…..there is a pretty good team right under your nose….Mr College Football….

SimpleDawg

October 22nd, 2009
9:57 am

All of you numb-nuts who describe the Tech offense as the “spread option” are about as accurate as Miller calling Miller Lite a Pilsner.

Johnson’s offense is a variation of the wishbone with the QB under center. The spread option has the QB in the shotgun.

Option # 1 is the fullback. PJ’s best back has always been the fullback. QB has to be under center to utilize the fullback. PJ always prefers for the FB to carry the ball…quickest, shortest route to the end zone…safest hand off…least amount of players involved…etc.

Option # 2 is the QB. This option opens up after the fullback is established. Defenses collapsing on the FB open up Options 2 & 3.

Option # 3 is the pitch man. Riskiest of the 3 options, but the payoff can be big when defensive players lose their discipline by focusing on options 1 & 2.

PJ alters the old Wishbone with wing backs and flankers to adjust to the increased athleticism of today’s players, but the basic philosophy is the same.

Call it what you want, but it can be very effective when executed properly, and/or against undisciplined defenses….it also helps if you can hit a pass, because you usually have several opportunities to hit open receivers.

ATLdawg, ya dig?

October 22nd, 2009
9:58 am

Al Groh’s offenses usually blow, but he’s one of the best defensive coaches in college football. Their defense will play physical and disciplined, just like last year when GT was shut down. Could be bad news for GT.

#2 BAMA FAN

October 22nd, 2009
9:59 am

General Neyland, If I had a extra ticket General you could set next to me in Section m Row 59 seat 15 and 16. My wife is not going and taking a buddy from work who dislikes UT more than I do. General did you see Jeff Fisher with a Peyton Manning jersey on at a fundraiser in Nashville the other day and was funny!! RTR

Denver Dog

October 22nd, 2009
9:59 am

As long as everyone is spouting off, Tech has done great this year, and soon they will be into playing that same game as most teams in conferences play. Hoping another team will knock off the team that beat you. I don’t think Clempsun is the team to do that to UM, but they could. Tech needs to just keep thier heads down and thier powder dry. They should be well rested by the time UGA rolls in and should make a big statement that weekend.

Dogs won’t lose this weekend for sure.

I hope BC beats ND after that two extra play stuff last week against USC.

Bama Rolls, LSU Rolls, Tech should roll.

Never thought I’d see the day when Wake Forest getting blown out would be unheard of, and SEC actually doing something to the officials that make pitiful calls. I still think a further investigation is warranted.

GO Dogs

Atlanta Gator

October 22nd, 2009
10:05 am

Frank—-I stand corrected. At least as measured by the number of sacks allowed, Tennessee’s offensive line stacks up pretty well. A little search of ESPN individual player stats reveals that Crompton has been sacked 6 times so far this year, which ties him for the third fewest sacks in the SEC. Crompton’s TD/INT ratio is 13-9, and if you take away his stats against Western Kentucky and Georgia, it’s an upside-down ratio of 4-6.

You may be right about Tennessee’s offensive line, but the Vols still need a starting quarterback.

Larry

October 22nd, 2009
10:06 am

If S Fla beats Miami it could help GT. The way the bcs works, if there is a 3 way tie, then the highest ranked team would go if they are ranked 5 points higher than the team they are in contention with. In other words, If GT wins out and is say 5th in the bcs and miami lost to USF and fell to 11th, gt would go to the acc champ game. If Miami was 10th, then I believe they would get the honor. I am not 100% sure of this but I think it is accurate.

Tide4u2c

October 22nd, 2009
10:07 am

Bama’s defense is just too good for Tennessee to handle add in Bama’s depth and Tennessee is in trouble.Sure Tennessee has had two weeks to prepare for Bama and Bama is banged up and bruised but Bama will overcome it and beat Tennessee. Bama 27 Vols 9.

bamaguy

October 22nd, 2009
10:08 am

FYI, there is an excellent commentary on si.com by Staples on the SEC ref situation.

General: If you look good in that shade of orange, knock yourself out. (for the record, I did think it a bit pissy of the Alabama AD to say no to the orange jerseys)

Otto

October 22nd, 2009
10:08 am

LSU should beat Auburn. Auburn has very little depth but in their defense UK maybe very underrated. UK’s losses afterall are to UF, S Car (who only has 1 loss), and Bama. UK is a very hard team to rate at the moment that could win their remaining games, the toughest being UT and UGA which IMO are toss ups.

Auburn will get back on track beating Furman and will most likely get 1 win between Ole Miss or UGA, UGA being the mostlikely. Auburn is due for a win over UGA, both defenses can’t tackle but Malzahn has much more imagination than Bobo. A 7 win season for Chizik in his first year won’t be bad. If they recruit a good class Auburn can be fighting for best of rest in the SECW next year and a return to the Cotton or Chicken Bowl.

gdawginkalamazoo

October 22nd, 2009
10:09 am

General, remember with the exceptions of the INT’s and sacks, all the positive stats from Crompton came from the UGA game so they are aberrations as opposed to quality stats.

Whoos!

Ramblin Wrecker

October 22nd, 2009
10:14 am

I’d like to think that winning in Tallahassee (which had NEVER been done by GT) was a much more daunting task than trying to win at Virginia this weekend. And in the past year and a half, Paul Johnson has made it a habit of ending long droughts at GT. Beating FSU for the first time in ACC play last year. Beating UGA after 7 straight losses last year. Beating FSU in Tallahassee for the first time. Beating a top 5 opponent at home for the first time in 40+ years (VT last weekend). So to me, breaking a 20 year drought in Charlottesville is just the next one to knock down. Plus, GT is going on a mission to revenge the losses they had last year. They avenged the losses to VT and UNC. The only one left (assuming they won’t get to face LSU in a bowl game) is Virginia. I’d say Al Groh is in trouble.

McDawg

October 22nd, 2009
10:14 am

clemson beats Miaami but tech blows it

bama will whip Tenn

huge game for ND-after this game we will know what kind of team they are

what happen to Auburn’s D that was never the problem with that team

Otto

October 22nd, 2009
10:14 am

Tide4U2C, I agree Crompton usually makes bad decisions when hurried. Bama has one of the best pass rushes in the SEC. Bama may not blow UT out but the win will most likely never be in doubt. Crompton gets picked off and Ingram has a 100 yard day (I’m thinking 125-150 yards if he is getting carries in the 4th).

Got 12?

October 22nd, 2009
10:14 am

Gen,

I expect a good game early. Like last year, the final score will not be indicative of the competitiveness of the game. Also, there are a couple of factors to consider when viewing the Bama/UT stats you posted:

1. Bama has played three top-25 teams. UT has played one.
2. In light of #1, Bama is 7-0 while UT is 3-3.
3. Team wise, Bama’s offensive stats are better than UT’s.

And no, Mal Moore just issued a statement saying UT fans have to wear their road whites even in the privacy of their homes on Saturday.

MS

October 22nd, 2009
10:14 am

Ummmm….William & Mary (1AA school) won there earlier this year…I am positive Tech will

Will

October 22nd, 2009
10:15 am

Unlike Sweet Willie, Kirby Smart can figure out how to stop the naked bootleg. Alabama will blow out UT. The UGA D has fallen so far so fast.

ugablows

October 22nd, 2009
10:15 am

first of all….TO HELL WITH UGAY!!! enjoying your season fawkers? yall must be dreading the beatdown that awaits you in Bobby Dodd this year…

second, if both miami and GT win out in the acc then the tie-breaker goes to the highest ranked team….so, if miami did lose to say s. florida then it would probably put GT in the acc championship

JP owns DJ

October 22nd, 2009
10:16 am

Nachos would beat the krap put of Eric.

Then he would celebrate by eating a delicious plate of chicken nachos and drink ICB’s the whole night, dudes.

TH Jefferson

October 22nd, 2009
10:16 am

Atlanta Gator, since you bring it up, few legitimate alums refer to U.Va. as UVA. No legitimate alums would ever affiliate themselves with Florida.
Finally, no Virginian would refer to our teams as the “Cavs,” whatever that means. Good effort, though. GT can’t win on Grounds. Wahoowa.

Otto

October 22nd, 2009
10:16 am

McDawg, Depth is Auburn’s biggst problem. They were about 10 under the scholarship limit of 85. It could really help with recruiting as kids know they can come in and get playing time.

Go Gators

October 22nd, 2009
10:17 am

Miami does not have to loose again in the ACC to get knocked out of the ACC Championship game. A Miami loss to South Florida that moves them 5 BCS ranking slots below the Jackets puts the Jackets in the ACCCG (assuming Tech wins out).