There CAN be an Alabama-Florida rematch for BCS title

 

What we learned over the weekend:

1. There CAN be an Alabama-Florida rematch for the national championship. Last week I said that if Alabama and Florida were undefeated, ranked 1-2 and played a close SEC championship game, there would not be a rematch for the BCS title. That statement was based on the logical position that the human voters, who make up two-thirds of the BCS formula, would not watch one of those teams lose on Dec. 5 and less than 24 hours later vote them in to the BCS championship game.

 

But after seeing the first set of BCS standings on Sunday, I think it is now possible if No. 3 Texas loses at some point. That’s because there is a huge gap in the BCS average between No. 2 Alabama (.9526) and No. 4 Boise State (.8083) and No. 5 Cincinnati (.7870). Boise State’s computer ratings are only going to go down as the season progresses while Cincinnati’s will go up.

 

Secondly, I can’t remember when we’ve had this much of a competitive gap between the top two teams in the standings and the rest of the Top 10. Example: If you’re a voter in one of the polls, do you put a 12-0 Iowa into the big game over a 12-1 SEC team that just lost a close game to the No. 1 or No. 2 team in the nation?

 

 

2. Georgia Tech needs to pull for Clemson—hard. While it is possible that the ACC’s Coastal Division could end in a three-way tie among Miami, Georgia Tech, and Virginia Tech, all of the tiebreakers are falling towards the Hurricanes because they won the head-to-head matchup with the Yellow Jackets.

If those three teams tie at 7-1, then the spot in the ACC championship game goes to the team with the highest BCS ranking on Nov. 29. Miami is 10, Georgia Tech is 12, and Virginia Tech is 14. So that favors Miami. If the top two teams in the BCS standings are within five spots of each other, the winner of the head to head competition gets the spot. That also favors Miami.

 

The point is that Georgia Tech could run the table, which would include a win over Georgia, and finish ahead of Miami in the BCS standings. But if Miami is within five spots of Georgia Tech, then the Hurricanes go because of the head-to-head results. So Georgia Tech’s best chance of getting to the ACC championship game is win out and hope that Miami stumbles somewhere. The Hurricanes have five conference games left against Clemson, Wake Forest, Virginia, North Carolina, and Duke.

 

 

 

3. Georgia really needs a week off. I got criticized last week for even suggesting that Georgia’s schedule was a contributing factor to the Bulldogs’ poor play at Tennessee on Oct. 10. The fact is that you will not find a team in the country whose first six games were stronger than Oklahoma State (5-1), South Carolina (5-2, with a loss to No. 2 Alabama), Arkansas (3-3, with losses to No. 1 Florida and No. 2 Alabama), Arizona State (4-2), LSU (5-1 with a loss to No. 1 Florida), and Tennessee (3-3, with a loss to No. 1 Florida). There were no breathers in that bunch and teams get physically and emotional fatigued. You just can’t get up to play every week. You have to be able to win when you’re tired and don’t play well.

 

For those of you keeping score at home, Georgia last had a week off before the Florida game in 1997 and 2007. The Bulldogs won both games.

 

4. This Alabama team is much better than the one that started 12-0 last season. The Crimson Tide of 2008, which rose to No. 1, could really only beat you one way on offense. They would get behind that that huge offensive line and just grind you into submission. And that worked until Alabama played Florida in the SEC championship game. This Alabama team is much more diversified on offense, and showed it against South Carolina as running back Mark Ingram ran for 246 yards, with a lot of it coming out of the Wildcat formation. This team can do more things in the passing game with QB Greg McElroy (even though he has struggled for two straight games) and WR Julio Jones and TE Colin Peek. Defensively, despite the loss of LB Dont’a Hightower, the Crimson Tide can just beat you up. I believe all of this is by design because Alabama has been tweaking its team in anticipation of a rematch with Florida in the SEC championship game on Dec. 5.

 

5. Florida had no business beating Arkansas on Saturday. The Gators turned the ball over four times. Arkansas and QB Ryan Mallett were moving the ball with great consistency. The Arkansas defense had a great scheme to slow down the Florida running game. The game was looking like a carbon copy of Florida’s 31-30 loss to Ole Miss last year in the Swamp. But Florida did not lose because of No. 15, Tim Tebow. If he has any lingering effects from his concussion it did not show as Tebow carried the ball 27 times. When Arkansas missed a field goal that would have given them the Hogs the lead, was there any doubt No. 15 was going to take the Gators down the field and put them in a position to win? Tebow is the difference maker of all difference makers. That’s why the Gators will be undefeated when they play in the SEC championship game on Dec.  5.

 

 

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Saint Simons

October 19th, 2009
9:07 am

28 – 23 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Paul H

October 19th, 2009
9:07 am

We also learned that Florida is the luckiest team on the planet, courtesy of 2 phantom calls to keep a late drive alive. Guess the refs didn’t want Tebow not to like them.

Atlanta Gator

October 19th, 2009
9:09 am

Frankly, I am less interested in the possibility of a post-SEC Championship rematch of Alabama and Florida than I am concerned about the present state of the Number One ranked Gators. Just as they did last year, the Gators seem to be very inconsistent offensively. Last season, the Gators’ offense found itself during the Arkansas game and went into overdrive thereafter. This year, the Arkansas game provided no tonic. The Gators have continued to win the hard way: close games, mostly solid defense, and adequate offense. As a fan, I’m wondering if this team can really repeat or not.

CrimsonCarl

October 19th, 2009
9:10 am

Who would want to see a rematch between Bama & Florida in the NCG? The voters won’t let it happen.

Paul H

October 19th, 2009
9:12 am

And we learned that the rankings are an even bigger joke than we thought. Boise State #4???? Cincy #5?????

CharlotteGator

October 19th, 2009
9:15 am

Enter your comments here

Joe M

October 19th, 2009
9:15 am

Can we get an in-depth article on the SEC’s pathetically inconsistent penalty calls?

Tebow jumping all around pumping his fists and arms and nothing gets called. An Arkansas player defends himself from a would be cheap shot from a Florida OL-man and gets a 15 yarder that keeps the drive alive.

This league, with all it does to be the best, should be ashamed at the disparity between calls given to some teams and not given to others.

How bout a little Barnhart-Redding/Slive Q&A on this crap?

Charleston Southern

October 19th, 2009
9:15 am

Florida is a cupcake

MagnaCarterGT

October 19th, 2009
9:16 am

Tech needs to pull for Clemson and VT hard – and hope for another UM loss. That would make things considerably easier for us.

Top Dawg

October 19th, 2009
9:16 am

If, and that’s a big if, LSU runs the table, then they’re in the NC game.

RxDawg

October 19th, 2009
9:17 am

No there can’t Tony. Florida doesn’t stand a chance against the dawgs. Georgia is going to punt them outa the stadium baby!

Lou Holthz

October 19th, 2009
9:18 am

No way, no how will the voters allow a rematch. I mean where will be the cries of one of them not winning their conference. Bama will lose to LSU and really throw a wrench in the whole process. Please wipe your monitor after reading this message.

gatorrashad

October 19th, 2009
9:18 am

In all games there is shaky ref calls, we all know that……but you win and live to fight another day…which the Gators have done……Florida will be ready for a big time clash with the Tide….I dont think the rest of the college football world outside of the SEC wants a rematch game between UF-Bama….Tony B ….the match of the ages is UF/Bama winner vs. either Texas or USCw

fair play

October 19th, 2009
9:19 am

Tebow gets away with anything thanks to the SEC officials.

Stinger

October 19th, 2009
9:20 am

Oh look, dawgs beat beat 2-5 Vandy.

How quaint.

m

October 19th, 2009
9:22 am

Tony,

The ACC was 6-4 vs the SEC last year.

The Jackets outplayed & outgained LSWho in the Peach Bowl.

The SEC is the most overrated conference in history.

There should be a 65 team NC playoff like in basketball.

Tech will thrash the pups & destroy UConn for the ACC Championship.

Where have you gone jim Bob Cooter ?

October 19th, 2009
9:22 am

Several things we took from this weekend :

1) Georgia Tech is real. Paul Johnson has the Jackets on the right track . The disciplne and focus are there and were on display Saturday night. The ceiling is very ,very high for this team and this program.

2) Auburn has come crashing back to earth. Call it the “Finebaum Curse”. Just days after detaching his sucker like mouth from Nick Saban’s butt long enoug to praise AU and stop bashing Gene Chizik , the Tigers have lost two straight. The questions about right hire/wrong hire have returned and it won’t be pretty.

3)Florida is vulnerable. The Gators don’t seem to be on a mission like they were last year. Complacency ? Maybe. But the fact is ,it’s hard to motivate players that are already counting their NFL money. A poor effort for the Gators.

4) The best team in the SEC is alabama. talk about focus. The Tide is a brutal juggernaut that will be hard for any team to beat. Saban’s recruiting successes are starting to pay dividends as other teams battle attrition and lack of depth. The Tide is just plugging in another star…

5) All of college football should have a moment of silence to remember Jasper Howard, the Uconn cornerback senselessly killed this wekend at an on campus dance. By all reports ,this kid had never been anything but a model student ,player and citizen. It hurts to lose a young man this way.

Brad

October 19th, 2009
9:22 am

There is no way they will do a rematch with teams from the same conference. Plus, fla is not the best team in the country. The way they are playing, they are 5-10.

Miami still has to play @ S Fla. That is probably their toughest game.

theTruth

October 19th, 2009
9:22 am

Tony, so you are saying that a team does NOT have to win their league to play for the MNC? Wow, that’s not what I heard two years ago against UGA. Nor was that the chant when Oklahoma lost their last game of the year and still went. Or the ESPN pundits that wanted a OSU/Michigan rematch. Before anyone says UGA did not win their division, well, yes they did. They were SEC East co-champs.

So, (not that I’m against two SEC teams in the MNCG), I don’t think they will ‘allow’ it. Too many other conferences will cry about it. It still seems strange to me that UGA got shut out because of a rule that didn’t exist. One of the reasons (tradition/rose bowl being the others) that didn’t want the USC/UGA matchup in the Rose Bowl in 07 was they feared the winner of that game would win the AP MNC.

Arthur Digby Sellers

October 19th, 2009
9:22 am

Mike Slive will not let the Gators lose this year. Anyone who saw their last td against ark would have to agree with me. I’ve never seen officials actually give a team a td before. But it happened Saturday. Even Gary Danielson ( the biggest Meyer and Tebow homer of them all) said the officiating was one sided. We have no chance if this continues – and it will. I’m usually on the side of the officials. They can’t get them all right. But I’m beginning to think there is more going on here. Slive wants two undefeateds in the championship game and there is no question he has let the refs know his feelings on the matter.

A winning record not really needed

October 19th, 2009
9:23 am

3-3 Sooners… #25 ?

CharlotteGator

October 19th, 2009
9:23 am

Tony,

Gotta respectfully disagree. I’d argue Arkansas started the season off tougher than the Dawgs. Also, I don’t think Mallet and Arky were moving it consistently. They got hot in the 4th but were shut down for most of the game. I think the bad penalties and the missed kicks by the Arky kicker were the reason UF had no business winning. I’ll take it though. To win a Nat’l Title, you have to have one like this every year. 2006 game against South Carolina, last year against Bama.

I’d have no interest in an SEC champ game matchup. If UF gets there to play Bama, and then loses, I’d rather see someone else get a shot. You can’t have a series on neutral sites split 1-1 and give the title to the team that won the second game. Not cool.

Big City

October 19th, 2009
9:25 am

3 way tie for the Coastal and no mention of the ACC’s currently top seeded and only undefeated in-conferemce team? A little journalistic integrity please Tony…

Sincerely,
Charlottesville

Miles

October 19th, 2009
9:25 am

Mr. Barnhart, you’ve repeatedly said turnover margin is the most important statistic in football. Thus, what better example is there of this than the Florida/Arkansas game? Statistically, Florida had the advantage in every category (first downs, passing, rushing, lack of penalties, time of possession, receiving, punt returns, and kicking) except kick returns. Florida gave the ball away four times. This was the difference in the game. Although Arkansas played well, it was the lack of disciplined play by the Gators that made this game so close. Tim Tebow came through in the end on the final drive of the game as was the difference in the end.

45ACP

October 19th, 2009
9:25 am

RxDawg – I concur. The Dawgs have Florida right where they want them.

Starting the season

October 19th, 2009
9:25 am

I’d argue Florida started the season off tougher than anybody with Charleston Southern & Troy State.

Nick

October 19th, 2009
9:26 am

This tech fan is pulling for ga in 2 weeks. Beat those gators!

Nachos

October 19th, 2009
9:26 am

No mention of ALLBARN losing to Kentucky for the first time since 1966?

Go Dawgs

October 19th, 2009
9:27 am

did anyone see the refs hand that win to the Gaytors on saturday? 2 dumb calls towards Arkansas that gave Florida great field position on their winning drive. There is no doubt the refs are going to do everything in their power to make sure Florida and Alabama play for the SEC championship because it makes the conference look great with 2 SEC teams atop the polls. So if Georgia is gunna pull off the upset they are gunna have to score to the point where it pretty much takes the refs out of the game.

GO DAWGS

RxDawg

October 19th, 2009
9:27 am

Quote of the day:
“For those of you keeping score at home, Georgia last had a week off before the Florida game in 1997 and 2007. The Bulldogs won both games.”

Lord of the Lizards

October 19th, 2009
9:27 am

Tony, The air is thick with Gator Envy. I read comments from fans like Paul H and it makes me laugh. Of course, a little over a week ago, this is the same type of fan, pundit, talking head etc, that presented themselves as “concussion experts” and were freely criticizing Meyer for even thinking about playing Tebow (funny, not a peep out of them about Michigans QB playing the SAME week he had one). Now they are all referees in a game that didn’t even involve their team, yet they seem so incensed and angry. BAD BAD case of Gator Envy!!

Mikey

October 19th, 2009
9:29 am

Hey Arky, thanks for trying…

sincerely,
SEC officials

NEXT#!13

October 19th, 2009
9:29 am

SHOULD BAMA GET PAST 10ERC THIS WEEK THEY’LL HAVE A MUCH NEEDED REST BEFORE THE LSWHO?? GAME!!! THINK ABOUT IT…2 WEEK’S FOR THE BAMA STAFF TO PREP!!! IT’S 50/50 BUT I DON’T SEE US LOSING THAT GAME UNLESS THE WHEEL’S FALL OFF OF THE DEFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL!!!

RxDawg

October 19th, 2009
9:30 am

I agree with you Jim Bob Cooter about 5). That was a sad story indeed.

another dawg in ptc

October 19th, 2009
9:30 am

Tony,
Another interesting tidbit about UGA’s schedule, is that they have lost the game after the LSU game in the last two years. they seem to match up well with LSU and play them really hard and physical. But have nothing left for the next week. But that is live in the SEC.

MtnBama

October 19th, 2009
9:31 am

If Bama does not solve it’s passing game issues of the past two games they will likely lose to LSU and will not beat Fl. if they play them six straight. If they do get the passing game going again no one will be able to stop them. RTR.

PMC

October 19th, 2009
9:32 am

Could Nesbitt be mentioned as a heisman canidate? No one has really stood out thus far. He’s been getting better and better.

globeflyer

October 19th, 2009
9:34 am

If I were a Hog fan, I would be screaming at the SEC front office over the officiating in the FL/ARK game. Pathetic.
The winner of the SECCG will NOT play another team from the SEC for the NC; the “powers that be” won’t allow it. First, because of a perceived lack of ratings and second, jealousy of, or bias against (your choice) the SEC.
This has got to be the weirdest season I can remember for the “Top Ten”…

another dawg in ptc

October 19th, 2009
9:35 am

Sorry about the typo. That is life in the SEC.

CrazyVol

October 19th, 2009
9:35 am

No way, no how will Ala/Fla play twice. Pipe dream. As far as Florda is concern, they are ripe for an upset. I wouldnt quite just blow off. I wonder which Georgia team will showup for that match?

Got 12?

October 19th, 2009
9:36 am

Does the conference want two undefeated teams playing in Atlanta in December? Of course they do. Were there a couple of bad calls against the Hogs? Of course there were. That’s life.

BankerDawg

October 19th, 2009
9:37 am

I still don’t buy it, Tony.

Michigan and tOSU showed us several years ago that voters are leary to have a rematch for the BCSCG. As good as we think UF and Bama are, a lot would have to happen for a rematch to even be a possibility.

USC already has their WTF loss (Washington) and Barkley looks like a veteran out there. Trust me when I tell you that I have extreme disdain for the Trojans, but with that defense, and what looks to be an emerging offense, I think they can beat anyone on a neutral field.

Iowa just has to get past a mediocre tOSU team to finish undefeated.

Texas is still undefeated, and they have Mizzou and Okie St, plus their championship game…games in which they will be favored. While they didn’t look particularly impressive, the same could be said for a lot of top teams this past weekend…..

And I’m sorry, but every game I watch Florida play, they look more and more beatable. I think for the moment it’s Bama and everyone else, because of their defense and running game.

Dare I even say, that with a week off I think my Dawgs have as good a shot as any against the Gators on Halloween.

I ramble to make the point that there is still a long way to go, and I just don’t believe there is ANY way we see a rematch of the SECCG in the BCSCG.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAWGS! BEAT THE GATORS!!!!!

Gary

October 19th, 2009
9:38 am

Charlotte Gator, so that means the 1996 Florida National Championship was not cool? Didn’t they lose to the team they eventually beat in a rematch for the title?

collegeballfan

October 19th, 2009
9:38 am

Didn’t we have a case a few years ago of Ohio St & Michigan playing, Ohio St winning a close game & a big clamor for a rematch in the BCS championship game? And didn’t Fla get the nod & beat Ohio St?

Two conference champions will play. I would love to see Boise against whoever gets the other bid.

-Johnson can coach-

October 19th, 2009
9:40 am

Frank Beamer got out-coached in the second half.Georgia Tech made the right adjustments to beat big bad # 4.

Bryan B

October 19th, 2009
9:43 am

Gary that was fsu and uf. not from the same conference. and fsu was lucky to have beat fla the first time. every nole fan knew danny w and the gators would crush them in the rematch.

ReptilesRule

October 19th, 2009
9:44 am

I agree with the Gator Envy statement. I like to call it the Gator Haters, who will make any kind of statement to discredit the amazing accomplishments in Gainesville. My favorites, in no particular order are: “Tebows good but won’t make it in the pros”, “Urban Meyers going to Notre Dame”, “Wait till Tebow leaves”, Mythical National Championship” (that is, until THEIR team is in contention), “Meyer is a jerk, our Coach is Mr Nice Guy”, even have heard these gems…”ESPN has it rigged”, “the refs have it rigged” (the latest theory). Yes, it can be lonely at the top, but it’s gotta be brutal at the bottom. Go Gators!!

Stinger

October 19th, 2009
9:44 am

Mr. College Footbal said:

“The fact is that you will not find a team in the country whose first six games were stronger than Oklahoma State (5-1), South Carolina (5-2, with a loss to No. 2 Alabama), Arkansas (3-3, with losses to No. 1 Florida and No. 2 Alabama), Arizona State (4-2), LSU (5-1 with a loss to No. 1 Florida), and Tennessee (3-3, with a loss to No. 1 Florida).”

See sports fans, THIS is what happens when you drink too much Kool Aid.
You get BS like this from people like TB.

There is simply NO CREDIBILITY left with TB.

NO OTHER teams or CONFERENCES even exist in Tony’s world.

How about: USC? Oregon? Miami? GT?
Or…ANYONE…ranked AHEAD of GA.

The FACT is…so many of these SEC team schedules are FRONT-LOADED with complete cupcakes. FL vs. Charleston Southern & Troy. Gimme a break.

There should no longer be ANY doubt that Mr. Brain-fart has NO journalistic integrity of ANY measure.

TB is a complete and OBVIOUS FRAUD.

Dawg Fud

October 19th, 2009
9:45 am

A 12-0 Iowa team should definitely get a hard look for the national title game. not syaing they should be in it for certain, but definitely a hard look.

how freaking good is that bama-fla SECCG going to be??? cannot wait.

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 19th, 2009
9:46 am

Well said, stinger.

That off week sure did help the fleabags last year against GT. They scored 42 points on us.

Could you imagine, if the mutts played 3 games in 13 days like GT did and the only lose was to Miami in their house?

Tony would be making reference to that game, every Monday.

If the dawgs scheduled…blah, blah, blah, blah blah.

GT 11-1
UGA 6-6

….I can’t find my blue bird.

Trade School Junkie

October 19th, 2009
9:47 am

Yeh, last year GA had 2 full weeks to prepare for GT. Didnt help.

CharlotteGator

October 19th, 2009
9:47 am

Gary,

Yes. I wasn’t a big fan of that one to be honest. I know the argument can be made that the first game was in Tallahassee (that’s why I wrote neutral site series) and there was shaky officiating at best, but in the end, if I’m honest, it wasn’t a good way win your first. Obviously, I’ll take it and now crystals are going to be given back, but if I’m trying to be objective, then no, it’s not how you want to win a title.

Thanks for trying to call me out though. Appreciate it.

T

October 19th, 2009
9:48 am

so .. Tony is saying.. .Georgia beats Florida?? Tony, you are one big homer… there is no way Georgia beats Florida this year… in fact, it will probably be very ugly.

Denver Dog

October 19th, 2009
9:48 am

Charlotte Gator, we usually agree, but you need to rethink your statement about Arkansas. Tech looks good, but vulnerable on defense. However, they should be able to make it to a BCS game, and they are a lot better than Cincy, Boise, and others ahead of them. Bama and UF should be one for the ages, if they both make it to the SEC championship game. Would South Carolins fared any differently if they had the starting running back playing, and would UF have shown alot more with Spikes? Who knows? Should be a good remainder of the year for all of us fans. Whoever this m guy is, UCONN is not in the ACC

KR

October 19th, 2009
9:49 am

Auburn has completely come apart. Things would appear to get worse in the remaining 5 games. Chizik and company need to sit down and seriously evaluate what they are doing differently now from what they did earlier this season. Most disturbing to me is how ineffective Auburn’s defense has become. I would expect better from a defensive guy like Gene Chizik.

However, before people start trying to run Chizik out of town, they need to remember that this is still his first season at Auburn. Nick Saban went 7-6 his first season at Alabama (not so long ago either), and things appear to working out much better for them lately.

Florida looked pretty shaky this weekend; I don’t know if that’s because Arkansas is better than expected or Florida is not as good as expected.

Alabama looked to me like the number one team in the nation. I’ll be curious to see if they can keep up their level of performance down the remaining stretch of games.

I personally don’t think that the BCS championship game should be a rematch of the SEC championship game, regardless of who wins it.

CharlotteGator

October 19th, 2009
9:50 am

I meant no, not now. Guess it’s back to work for me…

Ohmylawad

October 19th, 2009
9:51 am

With the week off and Florida having to play, there will be no excuse for GA not beating Florida. However, Georgia fans will FIND an excuse if that happens. Let’s see, it could be :

1) The officials are biased toward whomever we play
2) Our entire offensive line is patched together
3) Our team was up late the night before studying, as evidenced by our team GPA being the highest ever recorded
4) We’re not playing anyone that’s not a true freshman
5) Mike Bobo was preoccupied with thoughts of having more children
6) As everyone knows, even though we get half of the tickets, JAX is NOT a neutral site.
7) Our boom box wasn’t working and we couldn’t que up any hip-hop to dance to.
8) Did we say the officials are against us ?
9) It’s the officials, stupid.
10) The officlating, of course.

RetiredSoldier

October 19th, 2009
9:54 am

Like many Gator fans it’s fun to see others crying about Gator success. This time though I am concerned. No one has mentioned it yet, but the Gator offensive line is getting the you know what kicked out of them. I think that’s the reason our offensive numbers have been down. It’s hard to pass with someone always in your face or hard to run when there isn’t a hole to get into the secondary.

Urban needs to solve the line problem or a second national title will not be in Gainesville. Go Gators!

JB

October 19th, 2009
9:55 am

One thing is CERTAIN. If Georgia was number ONE and had just played that game against Arkansas, THEY would have dropped in the polls. Don’t get me wrong, Florida is good, but they have not played up to their pre season billing. Keeping them number one all year based on their performance is kin to an arranged marriage. The TV folks want Gators and Tebow in that title game. If Bama wins the SEC game, which I think they do, will Bama play Texas for the Title ?

FF

October 19th, 2009
9:58 am

Stinger
This refutes Tony’s point. Ga’s schedule was not that hard. They played two ranked teams, none being in the top 10. Woo,. Most teams have at this point. But anyway, I will go with Sagarin. He has ga’s schedule as the 10th toughest. Tony has to make excuses for his team. Btw, gt’s schedule is ranked harder than ga’s. And it’s true.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm

gte268p

October 19th, 2009
10:05 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t uga also have an off week before last year’s GT-uga game? We all know how that ended!

Also, if Tech, Miami, and Virginia Tech all win out, it likely will not come down to the Miami/GT head to head tiebreaker, but to a draw since all 3 teams likely will be within 5 spots of each other as they are now!

12 & 21

October 19th, 2009
10:07 am

Hey Eric I can’t help but notice that you have been MIA for the last 2 weeks. So how are the Barndwellers looking these days? Beginning to see just how over matched Coach Cheesedip really is? Well pal it ain’t gonna get any better (LSU, UGA, Ole Miss and of course Bama) are all waiting to deliver some pain. See ya on 11/27/09

Trade School Junkie

October 19th, 2009
10:07 am

FF: Nice Link.

I guess the USATODAY newspaper & Sagarin DONT EXIST in Tony’s World.

Reality Check

October 19th, 2009
10:10 am

Tony – I know you usually don’t respond to questions posted on here but I am hoping you will. It has become clear that week in and week out that the SEC officials have their on agenda. Do you honestly believe that the SEC officials are corrupt or do you believe these bad call are just a matter or circumstance? I would love to hear your opinion.

2N4YEARS

October 19th, 2009
10:12 am

Paul H, I couldn’t agree more. Florida had 3 calls that went there way –and one ‘no-call’ on the offensive pass interference. The refs should be fired for deciding the outcome of a game lilke that.

charliedawg

October 19th, 2009
10:13 am

Florida was clearly not up for the Arkansas game. They will have no such problem for the game with UGA. I predict another beat down in J’ville. I hope it’s not the case, but let’s be real.

Gagata

October 19th, 2009
10:18 am

Who wants to see a rematch? Ask the television networks.

Greg

October 19th, 2009
10:21 am

Tony this schedule is harder than your dawgs.
Sat, Sep 5 (11) LSU L 23-31 —
Sat, Sep 12 Idaho W 42-23 —
Sat, Sep 19 (3) USC W 16-13 —
Sat, Sep 26 at Stanford L 14-34 —
Sat, Oct 3 at Notre Dame L 30-37 —
Sat, Oct 10 Arizona W 36-33 —
Sat, Oct 17 at Arizona State L 17-24

Logical Call

October 19th, 2009
10:21 am

Oh get real! No way the SEC has two teams in the NC game. NO WAY PERIOD!!! The conference championship games prevent this from happening. Take away the conference game and these two teams would not have played each other and then…YES it would likely happen. The conference championship game means these two teams will not play even if the result is Bama vs Boise.

But…UF will lose a game before facing Bama. Georgia will beat UF this year. Largely based on the reasons mentioned above for Georgia. Georgia will be rested while UF will be worn from playing several physical games in a row. But also because UF can’t run the ball and they lack an effective passing game. They are simply over rated this year and the soft schedule has kept them winning. Shoot, MSU may even surprise them this Saturday.

Bama is the cream of the nation and the SEC but they will face a once or twice beaten UF in the conference championship game before facing Texas.

Eric

October 19th, 2009
10:23 am

Get real ladies. The voters love UF and UA and they love Urban and Nick. It’s not only possible that there’ll be a rematch, it’s likely. If they both win out and play well in the SEC championship game, look for a rematch. Auburn’s loss to KY was tough to take, but it doesn’t mean the season is over. We’re Auburn and we WILL be back. I know the bammers are loving it and I don’t blame them. I loved it when we were kickin their butts on a regular basis. But don’t get too used to sweetcheeks. It won’t last forever and that’s a promise. War Eagle!!!

Saint Simons

October 19th, 2009
10:23 am

my peepee is so little!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vanillia Ice

October 19th, 2009
10:27 am

It’s probably been stated on here already, but I’m sure we all remember the talk from several years ago when the “two best teams in the country” were Michigan and Ohio St. Now clearly this was the begining of the end (thank goodness) of the Little 11 media bias. It still exist, obviously, but the homers are now forced to bite their tongues. But both Michigan and Ohio St. went on to get destroyed in their respective bowl games that year. Clearly the SEC is heads and shoulders better than the Little 11, but unfortunately I think the voters will remember that season and the loser of the SECCG will pay the price for yet more Little 11 failures.

Name (required)

October 19th, 2009
10:30 am

UF, for whatever reason, is not nearly as strong as they were last year. They can be beat, and UGA can do it if the offense and defense are both on the same page during the same game for a change. I definitely won’t put any money on it, but I would be less surprised with a UGA win this year as I would have been last year.

It'sallcrap

October 19th, 2009
10:31 am

I’m a Bama grad, but I don’t want a rematch of Bama-UF in the NC game, no matter who wins. I like the idea that it’s a playoff into the NC game. If you can’t win your conference championship, you shouldn’t be allowed in the NC game. Simple as that. Unfortunately, weaker conferences like the Pac-10 and Big 10 don’t have conference championship games. I believe the SEC cg game this year will be the REAL national championship game anyway. Plus, if Bama wins, I’d like for them to face a team like Texas or USC for the NC.

As for UGA, what’s wrong? There’s no sense in a great program like UGA getting blown out by Tennessee. Crompton is a loser, and I have a feeling he’s going to be spending a long time on his back this Saturday. But there’s no question UGA has had the toughest non-conference schedule of any SEC team, and maybe that’s taken a toll. I sure hope the Dog solve their problems by the Florida game. UF can definitely be beat this year. Their offense is very one dimensional with basically just Tebow. Their defense keeps them in every game. But the refs gave them that one Saturday. Without those bogus calls, UF doesn’t get that TD and they lose that game. Still, someone has to close the deal on them. UGA can do it. I think all of us in the SEC (except Gator fans) are getting tired of this Tebow love fest. Bama nearly beat them with 16 freshmen in the game last year. It’ll be a far different story with Bama’s depth this year.

Tide Roll

October 19th, 2009
10:32 am

Florida’s offense is way down this year—-bama wins the SEC title game, and beats Texas for the national title—#13 in the trophy case baby!!!!

Bama 30 Florida 23–mark it down! Take it to the bank!

DawginLex

October 19th, 2009
10:32 am

I’m obviously a Dawg but I call them like I see them.

I am not impressed with Florida right now at all. They seem to be floundering worse each week. They won Saturday because of #15 and that is it. He is their Herschel. Period.

There should be no rematch. The SEC champion should probably be included in the national title game if both are undefeated. My bet is that Bama will be undefeated. Florida is vulnerable much more so than Bama. However, Tebow will beat Bama in the SECCG. Both end up with one loss.

Texas is horrible. The Big 12 is horrible. If Miami loses, GT should be able to win out and go to the ACC title game. The problem there is facing a Clemson team that will be very confident and playing with nothing to lose. I still think Gt wins.

The title game will be Florida and GT or Florida and Miami.

Based on what I saw Saturday, NO ONE wants any part of playing GT and facing that option. I like my crow deep fried. :)

#2 BAMA FAN

October 19th, 2009
10:34 am

Hey sweetcheeks (Eric) you better get ready to hear that famous line Yes sir may I have another loss
for the cow college, MORE IS ON THE WAY!! RTR

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 19th, 2009
10:36 am

Damn, DawginLex!!!

I knew you had a smart College football mind, but you heart got in the way.

I see, you’re listening with your head now.

Nice job.

All Knowing

October 19th, 2009
10:36 am

I predict (so you KNOW it’s gonna happen) FL, AL and TX all lose a game this year. I also predict (so you can take it to the bank) that Boise St and Cincy are gonna run the table and finish 1-2 in the BCS. Should be a helluva national championship matchup.

slaw_dawg

October 19th, 2009
10:39 am

im a huge SEC fan, yet I believe that a Florida- Alabama BCS championship game would be competly unfair. If Iowa, or Cincy (screw boise & the WAC) goes 12-0 then they should jump a 1 lose SEC team. I still believe that a teams record is more important than computer formulas.

To make it as easy as possible, every BCS conference should have a championship game. The SEC does it right. The SEC names an undisputed chmapion every Decemeber in the dome. Why cant these other conferences get with the program?

Hey

October 19th, 2009
10:42 am

I think Altamaha must be on one of them high-aytuses.

It'sallcrap

October 19th, 2009
10:42 am

All Knowing,
Of course Boise and Cincy are going to run the table because they don’t play anybody. (I’m chomping at the bit to see that big clash between Boise and Idaho… whoopeee… :-) .

Either Bama or Florida will be in the NC game this year, even with a loss. Teams like Boise and Cincy should ALWAYS be penalized for not playing major BCS conference teams. Until they have the guts to schedule real teams instead of high schools, they’ll have to settle for whining about not making the NC game with their big undefeated records.

G8R GRAD

October 19th, 2009
10:43 am

I told some buddies Saturday night that UF would not beat UA playing the way we did against Arky and that the Tide deserved the #1 ranking since they are playing better on both sides of the ball than is UF.
Apparently, the AP agreed.
The Georgia game has become a much more daunting challenge than I had previously thought.
Regarding a rematch, good points all Tony, but the way the Gators are playing, we may not survive undefeated either – hence, UA plays Texas in Pasadena, in my humblest estimation.

SEC Fan

October 19th, 2009
10:43 am

If anyone mounts a challenge against the gators or the tide, the officials step in to right the ship. If anyone beats either of them they will have to overcome some bad calls. Arkansas almost pulled it off but the officials found a way to get it done. How can florida fans not see it? This situation is embarrassing for our league. Mike Slive will do anything to generate more money.

Confrused

October 19th, 2009
10:44 am

Stinger, Ramble On, M, I guess if you are going to say that Barnharts credibility is gone because of his continued discussions about SEC football (which is truly the only football worth talking about around this part of the country), then we can TRULY say that Schultz has no credibility and has completely lost his mind with his “12 steps for GT to make it to the NCG”. What complete journalistic fluffery to catter to the 12 GT fans that feel they are being overlooked because they have squeaked by some overrated ACC opponents. GET A GRIP!!!

Confrused

October 19th, 2009
10:45 am

before you bash, I meant to say “cater” instead of catter…..keyboard slip

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 19th, 2009
10:49 am

No problem, Confrused…I suppose you didn’t mean to Confused?!?

The sooner Schultz leaves for the La, la, land of the Left Coast where he came from, the sooner I’ll be celebrating.

…may even buy a paper again.

All Knowing

October 19th, 2009
10:49 am

Sailcrap, I’ll repeat myself. I’m ALL KNOWING. Meaning I’m privy to the inner workings of the National College Football Refereeing Association. They’ve already decided it’ll be Boise & Cincy in the NCG. Haven’t you noticed how they’ve rigged all the Georgia games this year ?

Gator Growl

October 19th, 2009
11:07 am

The refs did it! It’s a big conspiracy!! What a bunch or crybabies!!! Just like the LSU game, you Dawg fans are bitchin’ and moaning as usual. Here’s an idea, try covering the kickoff better or try stopping the LSU back from breaking off a long run to the end zone at the end of the game!!!! And if you want to see the Gators lose so bad, win the damn game instead of having to root for someone else to do it!!! Pathetic little losers!!

Ga boy

October 19th, 2009
11:08 am

Surely you have comments about those 2 atrocious calls against Arkansas on the Gators last TD drive Tony. After your whining about the one call against Ga in the LSU game. Also the Gators were flagged 3 times for 16 yards? Imagine that! Not in a million years. Also the failure to call offensive pass Interference on the winning FG drive against Cooper. I would say the refs deserve a large statue outside the Gator stadium

Request for Tony

October 19th, 2009
11:08 am

Tony,

It has been mentioned in many posts above… there is a serious problem w/ the SEC officials. They are human and errors can be made but this is starting to be a trend. Two recent games were greatly influenced by horrible calls. I know you have a relationship with Slive… will this relationship stand in the way of you asking the tough questions? The SEC apologizing after the fact is not benefiting anyone… someone in the media needs to put the pressure on the SEC because they are not addressing this issue internally. They can state that they review every game but the message is not gettng thru to the officials.

XXXVII

October 19th, 2009
11:10 am

an Alabama/Florida BCS championship won’t happen. The BCS will find a way to put USC or a Big 12 team in there. They may even try to put Ohio State in there to be spanked by an SEC team again.

Ga boy

October 19th, 2009
11:12 am

Tony I know you must be smoking again. Not in your wildest imagination would there be a rematch of the SEC championship game for the NC. In spite of what you think about SEC football, there are some other pretty good football teams out there.

Roll Tider

October 19th, 2009
11:13 am

Loving all the respect Bama is getting. For all his past misdeeds, I truly believe Saban was searching for exactly what he has now- a monster football program seeped in tradition. At MSU or LSU he could get talent, but never on the national scale like he will continue to get at Bama. Folks, we have one nice decade ahead of us; guessing even better than the Spurrier years at UF. I’m thinking 8 SEC titles and at least 2-3 MNC titles over the next ten years. Rammerjammer Yellowhammer!

DawgGirl32

October 19th, 2009
11:13 am

Great win on Saturday, Tech. In my humblest opinion, though, someone needs to teach Nesbitt how to throw a shovel pass.

I really doubt we’ll see both Fla-Bama in the National Championship, regardless of whether or not they should. Can you imagine what kind of hell the Big 12, Little 10, and USC would raise if that happened? I really don’t think the general public would want to see it either. Let’s be honest, we’re all about the “which conference is best” BS and I think that many SEC fans would rather have a team in the NC game playing against another conference just for the sake of beating them and saying that the SEC reigns supreme.

No Gator Envy here, but I humbly believe that if the Gators played Bama right now, they would not come away with a win. I think any logical, non-homer Gator fans can agree that those calls against Arkansas were absolutely bogus and greatly helped Florida win that game. Coincidentally, they were the same officiating crew that officiated the UGA/LSU debacle.

I don’t see Clemson beating Miami, but crazier things have happened.

I like my dawgs’ chances against the Gators a lot more now than I did at the beginning of the year. What will be interesting to watch, however, is if the Gators overlook MSU this weekend and MSU pulls a USC/Washington type upset. Like Clemson, MSU really has nothing to lose. Dan Mullen knows the ins and outs of this Florida team and should have his team ready.

G8R GRAD

October 19th, 2009
11:15 am

Granted, some spurrious. maybe even attrocious calls have been made this season by officials on the field, but does anyone REALLY think there’s a conference-wide conspiracy?

bull-gator

October 19th, 2009
11:20 am

1) A rematch would be shameful. Give the # 3 ranked team a shot at the winner (if both are still #1 and #2 when they meet Dec 5).

2) Go Clemson!

3) Dawgs deserve the rest. Look out Gators, you’re in for a long afternoon if the same pedestrian play calling is used as in the Arkansas game.

4) Alabama should be BCS #1.

5) Florida should be 5-1. They really dodged a bullet. Arkansas came to play and the Gators mailed it in. What a bunch of prima donnas…

DawginLex

October 19th, 2009
11:21 am

No conspiracy, just a lot of bad officiating.

Gator Growl

October 19th, 2009
11:22 am

Thank you Ga boy and DawgGirl for just making my case…

joe joe

October 19th, 2009
11:22 am

Tony,
We the SEC fans are tired of it. The officiating has to be addressed/changed. I’m tired of the ole Southern good old boy network. Go out & get the best officials in the country. The conference has enough money to do that.
I can understand an official making a bad call on pass interference because it is the toughest call to make.
However that abortion of a personal foul call against the Arkansas lineman just because he blocked another defender that was blocking him was the worst call I have ever seen an official make in any sport.
Throw in the excessive celebration penalties & the Riley Cooper school of getting open, it has been a bad 3 weeks for the striped crews.

Dale

October 19th, 2009
11:27 am

Tebow has appeared on the cover of SI 11 times in just over a year. He has been featured on the cover 8 times. That is almost DOUBLE what Jordan ever had in the same amount of time.

Gator Fan

October 19th, 2009
11:29 am

You are right RX, Georgia will be punting way more than Florida. We will get punted out of the stadium, but you will have already gone by the third quarter…again. If we double Green, and stop the run, the doggies have no shot. What is bobo gonna do throw a screen?

Willie won’t get to Tebow, and Cox better get ready, we had some D line men and Spikes out for Arkansas, so don’t get too hopeful about the dogs O getting things going.

The only way UGA has a shot is with their special teams, they are good there, but O and D, advantage Florida.

GATOR88

October 19th, 2009
11:29 am

No BCS NC game rematch with the two teams. That is crap. Whoever wins moves on and hopefully pounds the opponent. If it’s BAMA I will be rooting for them also. If Gators play BAMA right now I see them winning by 10 points.

GATOR88

October 19th, 2009
11:30 am

Enter your comments here

Vast Striped Shirt Conspiracy

October 19th, 2009
11:31 am

Why don’t you conspiracy freaks do something for me ? Look at the video of ALL SEC games this year and figure out how many bad calls there were, who the team was that was hurt by the bad call, and look at the totals by team. If Georgia is the only team that has been hurt, then there’s a conspiracy, all right. If other teams have had bad calls made against them, including Bama and Florida, then there’s likely NOT a conspiracy. This is simple enough even for YOU morons. Get back to us with the results.

Will

October 19th, 2009
11:38 am

UF got lucky against Arkansas for sure. By the way, that #33 for Arky looked like the second coming of DMac! I’m glad that guy didn’t play much against UGA or he would have had 300 yards rushing and 6 touchdowns.

I will be rooting hard on Halloween’s Day for my Dawgs but I don’t expect much. Our D is too soft & plays too slow to make plays against Tebow. The special teams is not much better and will cost us at some point during the UF game. As long as I have been watching football I have never seen a holding and a block in the back called on the same player on a kick-off. But that’s what happened to us against Vandy. Coach Fab is an idiot.

Greg

October 19th, 2009
11:40 am

You don’t have conspiracy’s with 2-3 loss teams. The ga call was made up by the refs with lsu getting the same penalty. Conspiracies happen with teams at the top or teams they want to see at the big game. IE florida texas usc in football. yankees dodgers in baseball. the shady calls often happen late in the game too to help a team in danger. ie florida this week. there were definitely 2 shady calls late in that game.

Dave R

October 19th, 2009
11:41 am

I’m with the ‘Bama-Florida rematch won’t happen, and would be absurd’ crowd. At least, if there are any other remaining undefeated teams (don’t kid yourselves on this one — the only undefeated BCS conference team to miss the BCS title game was 2004 Auburn. And there were three undefeated BCS conference teams that year. If Iowa or Cinci is one of the last two major-conference undefeareds standing, they’ll get to play for all the marbles), or any other one-loss BCS conference teams left (particularly the USC/Oregon winner).

Taylor

October 19th, 2009
11:46 am

After watching the Fla/Ark and Alabama/USC this weekend I am convinced there is some sort of a conspiracy among the officials to make sure that Fla and Alabama remain undefeated. There is too much money involved if Fla and Alabama meet in the SEC game undefeated. The other SEC teams will not have a chance against Fla and Alabama because the officials will influence the outcome. The officiating in the SEC is the cannot get any worse. One day the real truth will come out about the conspiracy.

timthebrave

October 19th, 2009
11:48 am

I hope its boise st vs cincy for the championship….That might force some hands for a playoff. Or Boise st vs TCU….Go dawgs!

Trade School Junkie

October 19th, 2009
11:48 am

Mr. College Football…ISN’T…Mr. College Football. It’s Mr. SEC.

I dont have a problem with TB calling himself, Mr. SEC.

But to call himself, Mr. College Football, is an insult to the reader, and an outright fraud.

This Horse-Sh** about: “The fact is that you will not find a team in the country whose first six games were stronger than…” is so blatantly contrived.

Just exactly HOW FAR does TB has his nose up Mike Slive’s arse?

Greg

October 19th, 2009
11:49 am

Taylor…exactly my thoughts too. Look at all the money involved in that game. Even the hotels and rest in atlanta count on it. If fla loses that game and who knows one more, it takes away the lure of the game. Same thing with bama. Watch the calls as we go down the stretch favor both the tide and gators. They want them both 1-2 when they meet each other. The sec AND espn want the winner of that game in the nat champ. and they want them both undefeated when they meet.

Does anyone know

October 19th, 2009
11:51 am

Who refs the games when an sec team plays an ooc rival? If the game is on the road, i guess the sec officials come and vice versa. Not good for tech when they play ga. But it’s good for fsu when they go to the swamp. lol

Got 12?

October 19th, 2009
11:54 am

Taylor and Greg,

As I stated in a previous post, the conference definitely wants to see two undefeated teams in the championship game. That’s simply business.

There were two obviously bad calls down the stretch in the UF game but what were the bad calls in Bama’s game?

Can't stand Barnhardt. King of useless info

October 19th, 2009
11:59 am

Hey, idiot Burnhardt, why did you not mention the bad officiating.

Got 12?

October 19th, 2009
12:00 pm

In the S. Carolina game, Bama committed 10 penalties for 113 yards. S. Car had 5 for 60 yards.

I’m sure Bama will get some calls down the stretch but it hasn’t happened yet.

Issues w/ the refs

October 19th, 2009
12:02 pm

No, I do not believe that there is a conspiracy but here’s the problem – the recent calls have been so outrageous that it opens the door for the folks who look for conspiracies. In this case, the SEC only has itself to blame. Something is wrong and needs to be addressed. The CBS crew has gone out of its way to point out the terrible calls. There is a problem!

DB

October 19th, 2009
12:04 pm

Big City, you lose to W&M, nobody should remember you.

Issues w/ the refs

October 19th, 2009
12:05 pm

Who within the SE-based media has the guts to seriously question Slive? Is there a good ‘ole boy netwrok between the SE media/writers and Slive?

bamafan

October 19th, 2009
12:06 pm

Didn’t someone on TV note on Saturday that the crew who made the bad calls in the UGA-LSU game was the same crew in the Arkansas-UF game?

Gatorzone

October 19th, 2009
12:07 pm

Gators looked bad Saturday. To me Tebow seems to be not right. His decisionmaking is slow and he is holding the ball longer. Even if it is 1 second longer, it is too much as evidenced by the sacks, fumbles and bad play. They seem to start every season like this, but I am not sure about them this year. To me Alabama looks like the best complete team in the country.
Yes, Gators got a few breaks in the game. That has to happen in order to win consistently. Remember all of the close games in 1980? People have gotten too accustomed to blowouts and expect them constantly which is impossible. Hopefully, UF can build off of this type game but only time will tell.

As far as a rematch, forget it. It will not happen.

Otto

October 19th, 2009
12:07 pm

The refs at the UK/Auburn game missed a very blatant block in the back on the run that setup UK’s last TD. The officiating is getting bad.

I said it last yer that the SEC needs to change to Big 12 tie breakers as did the ACC. The highest rated team should be sent to play for the title in the event of the 3 way tie. A conf champ goes to a BCS bowl where the team represents the conf. A conf should send their best, most tested team to that game.

Vast Striped Shirt Conspiracy

October 19th, 2009
12:11 pm

I haven’t noticed that you morons have gotten back to me with that list of bad calls in all games. Greg, if FL or AL loses, I suppose you will admit one of the following:
1) I (Greg) am an idiot
or
2) I (Greg) am a moron

Otto

October 19th, 2009
12:12 pm

I don’t think a Bama/UF rematch is likely especially in Iowa and Texas can run the tables. Possible? yes especially if it is a close game with a disputed call. Likely? no

If the SEC champ drops 1 and Texas, Boise St and Iowa run the tables it gets interesting to see if Iowa or Boise gets in. Bama is looking to have their best team in decades. I think they can run the tables.

CFB Lover

October 19th, 2009
12:13 pm

Wow, what a bunch of BS. Most of you would not know whether a call was right or wrong. Do you even know the rules? All college officials are reviewed each week and if they are making phantom calls they are called on the carpet. If it continues they are dismissed or suspended. This talk of conspiracy is idiotic. Do you really think that a conference or league would stand for that. If the SEC is telling it’s officials to make sure Fla and Ala win then the NCAA should sanction the SEC and do it fast. I know after 25 years of officiating that mistakes are made but not to change the flow of the game. You call what you see. Conspiracy is only in the minds of losers.

Rags

October 19th, 2009
12:17 pm

Regarding Florida and Alabama playing for the SEC championship and then the National Championship, I do not think it’s fair. If the teams split the games, one is 1-1 and the SEC champ, but the other is 1-1 and the National champ. Both teams are 1-1 against each other, and the “play in” game (i.e. the SEC championship) really did not count at all. Same thing almost happened with Ohio State and Michigan. Just ain’t logical.

CFB Lover

October 19th, 2009
12:19 pm

Players do nothing….the officials just call things because they have nothing else to do…I bet most of you did not know that an official gets a bonus each time he throws his flag….does not matter if he is right or wrong….flag hits the ground…and cha ching..another bonus…idiots.

guy

October 19th, 2009
12:19 pm

the conspiracy guys are right. remember how empty the dome was last year when bama played a florida team with one loss? total ghost town.

give me a break…

CFB Lover

October 19th, 2009
12:21 pm

It seems to me that most of the complaints are coming from the dawg nation and they were not even involved in the game. Where are the Ark fans? Do they have an opinion?

Fleischman in Chi-Town's bed

October 19th, 2009
12:25 pm

Where the hell is Eric and Roswell Ed ????

WDE ????

CFB Lover

October 19th, 2009
12:26 pm

I hope Tony is right and they do put two SEC teams in the BCS MNC. Then the rest of the conferences will surely push vey hard to get a proper playoff system. Sorry, I forgot that you can’t have a playoff because TV money will not allow it. Teams that are 6-6 would not get in the playoffs. Those team’s season would be over and the Toliet Bowl would have to shut down. CFB is now being run by the likes of ESPN, CBS, NBC and any other network that will antie up.

Vast Striped Shirt Conspiracy

October 19th, 2009
12:28 pm

Yep. These Dawg fans on here are real intelligent folks alright.

JWalker

October 19th, 2009
12:37 pm

If I was a GT fan and my season depends on Clemson, I’d go ahead and put my division championship aspirations away right now.

Gman

October 19th, 2009
12:42 pm

Don’t care what UF did against Arky. They will be up for us and will administer the annual ass-kicking. CWM is just what the Dr. ordered for the UF offense.

ARdawg

October 19th, 2009
12:44 pm

Barnhart

Quit with your fantasizing and slobbering all over yourself about a possible rematch with FL/AL. It wouldn’t happen in a million years. Who in the hell would WANT to see the loser of the SEC championship game in the NC game? Nobody but you apparently.

Listen, several years ago there was talk of USC (west) and Michigan doing a NC rematch and it didn’t work there now and shouldn’t work here either. Let the BCS work itself out. By doing so it is going to give us some funky games we don’t want. You should do more whining about the BCS system rather than dreaming up a rematch of the SEC CG. The system isn’t set up for two from the same conference nor is it set up for rematches from late in the season. I don’t believe it is set up for rematches at all. If FL or Bama lose in the SECCG them they are out. As complicated as they have made the BCS, this equation is pretty simple.

DC Dawg

October 19th, 2009
12:45 pm

All the GT fans writing new material for NBC sitcoms, Nice, what a bunch of DumbA$$ morons . Nice to talk smack when your team is up. Be a fan for more than 2 years ok?

Stinger, you have waited a long time to shoot you mouth off huh? Your a pretty good typist on your WM greeter breaks. Keep up the good work ZERO.

iptay

October 19th, 2009
12:47 pm

Clemson can beat the unpredictable Canes.

yellowjacket82

October 19th, 2009
12:47 pm

I love to hear all of these Dawg fans talking about UF’s luck against the Hogs. UGA has been pretty lucky this year. The Dawgs could easily be 0-7.

Dale

October 19th, 2009
12:48 pm

Conspiracy’s posts:

11:31am “Why don’t you conspiracy freaks do something for me? Look at the video of ALL SEC games this year and figure out how many bad calls there were, who the team was that was hurt by the bad call, and look at the totals by team.”

12:11 “I haven’t noticed that you morons have gotten back to me with that list of bad calls in all games.”

12:28 “Yep. These Dawg fans on here are real intelligent folks alright.”

That is, without a doubt, the most bizarre sequence of posts I have ever read. It’s tantamount to a lunatic asking NASA to prove UFOs don’t exist. Prove your own point, lunatic.

ARdawg

October 19th, 2009
12:50 pm

Tony, also how can you write this BS column and no mention of the officiating that is apparently taking over college football (the game YOU love). It is really a sad state of affairs when we see what the officials are doing. It bit us Dawg fans on the azz against LSU and after seeing them literally hand the Florida Gators a game last Saturday. Arkansas beat Florida only to have to lose to officiating. Do these things not bother you?

Dale

October 19th, 2009
12:51 pm

Yellowjacket82, you are exactly right. This is a point repeatedly put forth by the Georgia faithful.

Dale

October 19th, 2009
12:53 pm

But not 0-7, could be 2-5.

DC Dawg

October 19th, 2009
12:54 pm

good job Dale, you fit right in with stinger and little saint simon peepee

jumbeauxtiger

October 19th, 2009
12:57 pm

I agree with others that the general public would probably not want to see a national title game with the Tide and Gators. As a fan I wouldn’t either. But on the other hand it would be interesting the controversy that would occur if an 11-1 SC and a 12-0 Iowa were left out. It would serve the Big 10 and PAC 10 right in my opinion as they have been adamant against having any type of playoff, even at the least a Plus One model which would only slightly change the current system.

As we have found out in recent years of the BCS, there is alot of football left and anything can happen. Heck even LSU is in the mix and would likely vault into the title game by running the table(which is not going to happen).

Georgia Tech does need for Miami to lose but again there is nearly half a season left.

A week off will do the Dawgs some good and comes at a great time. I think the pressure will really be on the Gators in this game as they have so much to lose while UGa doesn’t. This game is no gimme like many thought a few weeks ago.

I just don’t know if Bama is really better than last year. They were outstanding in 2008 and are right now as well. Ingram is a great runner and has really come in to his own. It will be interesting to see if the Vols can slow him down.

Noone blows out everyone. All highly ranked teams struggle from time to time. This is just another example of “any given Saturday”. A tight end, Hernandez, has become the go to guy it appears. He’s a great player but I think the Gators really miss Harvin and Murphy.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

Golden Dawg 84

October 19th, 2009
12:57 pm

I’m usually a big fan of the off week before UF. Back in the day (when we would actually win the game regularly-yes I’m getting old), we ALWAYS had the off week while they played Auburn. That said, I don’t think it will matter much this year.

Our coaches had the entire summer to prepare for OK St and that was an absolutely pathetic display. They did script the first drive extremely well, but as often happens with this group, they apparently decided to ignore what was working.

Sorry, but a decent win against Vandy does not restore the credibility that was destroyed in Knoxville. It damn sure doesn’t mean that we will suddenly be a challenge for UF.

Johnny Test

October 19th, 2009
12:58 pm

I am a big SEC fan but I do not want to see a rematch of the SEC Championship game. It ain’t gonna happen. Arkansas has definately improved. The Gators had an off day but they still won. That’s the difference in them… they win even when they don’t play as well as they can. Bama is a lot better this year and will take care of them in the SEC CG.
As far as the Dawgs and Fla…. strange things have happened in this match up but it is highly unlikely the Dawgs win this one. At this point I’m just hoping they keep it respectable. If by some miracle they do win I think it’ll give them some additonal confidence for the Tech game but.. by the way, I don’t think UGA can beat them at this point but….
Beating Tech this year would be sweet. Spoil their whole season. Really it would. Oh they would say it didn’t but believe me tech fans don’t care if they lose every game as long as they beat UGA. At Tech all other accomplishments are subordinate to beating UGA.

Dawg Max

October 19th, 2009
1:00 pm

The lucky florida gators will not get all those miracle calls against the Dawgs in 2 weeks—Florida’s going down to UGA—you can bet the house! Georgia has an off week, and florida’s banged up already, and it will be worse after they play Miss State! A history lesson florida fans:

1997 and 2007—the Dawgs had bye weeks and beat florida both times!!!! Georgia 33 Florida 24! Let the good times roll–like the old days!!!

Gdawg

October 19th, 2009
1:02 pm

UGA could easily be 0-7?? Sort of like GT (or anybody else) is lucky not to be 0-7? What a stupid post.

Ed

October 19th, 2009
1:04 pm

That would be a big mistake. First, I would put a 12-0 Iowa team in the BCS game over a 12-1 SEC team that just lost to the No. 1 or 2 team in the country. They had their chance at all the marbles and lost – not only a chance for the MNT, but their conference crown as well. Why should they get another shot?

Also, after watching SEC football this year, I’m not sure the conference is entitled to the benefit of the doubt. Alabama has been underwhelming offensively in their recent games, Florida barely survived a mediocre Arkansas team, Georgia got whipped by Okie State, Tennessee got beat at home against UCLA – is the SEC really that good?

Also, a rematch wouldn’t be fair to the 13-0 SEC Champion. Say Alabama beats Florida for the conference title…are you going to tell them that their efforts meant nothing and now they have to gear up and do it all over again? What happened to the debate from ‘07, where it was said that non-conference champs (Georgia and Kansas that year) should be ineligible for the national title?

An Alabama-Florida rematch would be a bad idea. An Alabama-Iowa or Florida-Iowa title game would be much more interesting.

Erk

October 19th, 2009
1:07 pm

Tony, the same SEC officiating crew has now changed the outcome of the Ga/LSU and the Fla/Ark game with terrible calls. Why were they allowed to continue after the Ga/LSU game? Sadly, they will probably be given the opportunity to blow future games this year after the horrendous call against Arkansas late in the game. No repercussions it seems.

Greg

October 19th, 2009
1:10 pm

One team will lose when they play each other you dikhed. You must be a biased gator fan to say that the sec officiating last week wasn’t atrocious.

yellowjacket82

October 19th, 2009
1:12 pm

Gdawg idiot…do not try to interpret anybody’s post. You obviously are not smart enough.

Wishful Dawg

October 19th, 2009
1:15 pm

Wow, we beat Vandy and suddenly, the smart money is on UGA to beat UF?? Really??

Well, all we have to do to win is:

• Find a running game that can generate more than 2 yards per rush
• Have the O-line open some running lanes
• Make good decisions at QB
• Catch the ball
• Not make stupid penalties
• Get the right personnel on and off the field
• Make teams pay for playing us 1 dimensionally
• Get pressure on the QB
• Stop Tebow from gaining 5-10 yards whenever he wants
• Play tighter coverage (at least be in the TV picture when the receiver catches the ball.
• Guard against a fake punt or FG
• Return punts whenever possible
• Cover a kickoff (just go back to kicking out of bounds if we can’t do better than we’ve seen
• Not turn the ball over 3 times
• Actually get a turnover or two
• Occasionally get into the red-zone
• Call plays that enable us to sustain drives
• Make the occasional in-game adjustment
• If Logan Gray plays-use SOME imagination

Other than that, we should be fine!

Albert the Alligator

October 19th, 2009
1:18 pm

Florida/Bama at the dome for the SEC Title will be the National Title Game. If the winner of this game plays someone else then that someone else is going to be a sacrificial lamb.

Bad Dawg

October 19th, 2009
1:18 pm

Yellowjacket82:
Tell us how the Vandy game almost slipped away. Please?

[...] an Alabama-Florida rematch in the BCS title game.9.  Finally, Tony Barnhart of The AJC expounds on four things SEC fans learned over the weekend in his most recent blog post:* There CAN be an Alabama-Florida rematch for the national [...]

Thunder

October 19th, 2009
1:20 pm

Doesn’t Ohio State get the winner of the SECCG? Pretty sure it has already been decided.

Trade School Junkie

October 19th, 2009
1:27 pm

A FL-Bama re-match WILL NOT happen. It’s stupid & pointless question. But, I guess by now I should expect such crapola from TB.

But lets consider what would happen if there was a re-match.

How do you suppose the University Presidents, AD’s, Conference Directors…in ALL THE OTHER CONFERENCES… would repsond to a development like that?

They would tell the NCAA & the BCS to shove it up their azz.

BCS = (B)owl (C)artel (S)ystem

Gman

October 19th, 2009
1:29 pm

What makes a stereotype a stereotype?

A possible broken arm, asthma attack and “hurt” ankle are on the preliminary list of injuries from Saturday’s victory celebration after Tech beat then-No. 4 Virginia Tech 28-23

Nice that at Tech a “possible” broken arm and a “hurt” ankle make headlines. I understand there was another injury where a student was hit, “right where he lamost had an operation!” Of course, the asthma attack is hysterical. That is one tough student body at Tech. What carnage!

Diamond Dave

October 19th, 2009
1:33 pm

“You just can’t get up to play every week…” Really? Can’t get up 12 days out of 365? Isn’t that why these 19-20 year-olds are on full scholarship? That kind of attitude and statement is part of what’s wrong with today’s game.

Scott

October 19th, 2009
1:40 pm

You are correct Tony, Florida had no business beating them. Other than the score, they didn’t.
And that group of refs (same crew for LSU-UGA) have absolutely no business working in the SEC, or even HS football for that matter. That was just awful in the 4th qrt, call after call, I feel for the Hogs, and the Dog fans b/c that would make UF-UGA game chance to win the east.

Fleischman in Chi-Town's bed

October 19th, 2009
1:47 pm

Who let the dawwwwwwwwwwwgs out ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

4-3 ! just a few wins away from the nat’l championshoip.

Gatorzone

October 19th, 2009
1:48 pm

Diamond Dave

October 19th, 2009
1:33 pm
“You just can’t get up to play every week…” Really? Can’t get up 12 days out of 365? Isn’t that why these 19-20 year-olds are on full scholarship? That kind of attitude and statement is part of what’s wrong with today’s game.

I agree 100%. Perhaps it should read “with today’s recruits looking to jump to the NFL ASAP and no real allegiance to their college team…you can’t get up for every game”

Vast Striped Shirt Conspiracy

October 19th, 2009
1:59 pm

OK Bizarro Dale, you prove the adage “never underestimate the stupidity of a dawg”. When someone goes around claiming a conspiracy exists, it is THEY who bear the burden of proof. In your UFO analogy, it would be the UFO freaks that should prove that UFO’s exist; not NASA. I’ve seen no Dawg, yourself included, that is interested in proving that the officials have it in for Georgia. Until you provide such proof, you’re a moron.

Anonymous

October 19th, 2009
2:05 pm

Albert:

Da truth.
p.s., How do you type a post on a computer keyboard or PDA with those bulky gloves on?

As a long suffering MSU fan....

October 19th, 2009
2:07 pm

I feel pretty good about the Fla game Sat. Even though they are 3-4, they are getting better each week. Mullins knows the Fla program like the back of his hand and will have the Dogs fired up! Also, the game should help UGA because of the physical type of game they play. Win or lose – Fla will know they were in a tough game.

G8R GRAD

October 19th, 2009
2:21 pm

Dear long suffering MSU fan,

I feel your pain.
While I was a Gator student, we got our fannies handed to us weekly.
Hang in there.
Dan Mullen is a fine coach and will steer you program in the right direction.
And good luck on Saturday.

Got 12?

October 19th, 2009
2:22 pm

Refs are human. They probably pull for certain teams like the rest of us. (I know refs can’t officiate their alma mater’s games.)

J Dub

October 19th, 2009
2:45 pm

I like your style Wishful Dawg. The win against Vandy and the narrow win for Florida has not changed my outlook on the UGA/FL game. I will go in cheering my heart out and hope with all hope that UGA pulls out the win but until we address some major issues, we are not going to win big games. Truth’s the Truth.

dumptruckeddiesdog

October 19th, 2009
2:58 pm

Tony,

Don’t you think for a second that Boise St. or TCU can’t beat Florida or Alabama. Ofcourse Vegas will have them 2 touchdown favorites but these are two great football programs and are very competitive. Chris Peterson has been a master game planner and if he gets 6 weeks to prepare for Tebow you can bet he will have a wrinkle nobody has ever seen. SEC fans are really blind to the smaller schools and we don’t blame them however it could be a nightmare for the BCS system if Boise St. was to upset Florida in the BCS Title Game which is very possible whether you like it or not. Be aware of what these other teams are doing outside the South or another beating like Utah did last year can happen again. These nonbcs teams can compete with the SEC its mostly been the Big 10 teams that cant compete with the SEC. Boise St. can explode of Texas also and hold them to negative yards rushing the way the Longhorns are playing. It’s a long season still and no way 2 SEC teams should ever play for the title. The SEC officiating is such a mess that it is turning into the joke of college football. Most call it the WWE its becoming so rigged for the higher ranked team.

Dale

October 19th, 2009
2:58 pm

Conspiracy,

And to do that one should review “video of ALL SEC games this year and figure out how many bad calls there were, who the team was that was hurt by the bad call, and look at the totals by team” then report back to you? Because without those specific results, the premise is false. Do the American gene pool a favor and hold your breath. Lunatic.

Dale

October 19th, 2009
3:00 pm

DC Dawg, while you follow the model the Ditka Superfans.

Angry Dawg

October 19th, 2009
3:03 pm

Florida and meyer have the SEC refs in their pocket. Georgia will have to play out of their minds to beat florida and their hand picked, Gator loving refs! But, upsets can happen, especially if florida plays bad again in 2 weeks! Georgia’s got their mojo back baby—-huge upset will happen in Jax.

Mark

October 19th, 2009
3:03 pm

If Al and FL do meet in the title game which one will the referee’s cheat for. Will we need two crews one to cheat for each team. Texas doesn’t have much of a chance to pass either onr at this rate. Is that the SEC goal?!!!

MaDoubleT

October 19th, 2009
3:24 pm

dumptruckeddiesdog

October 19th, 2009
3:26 pm

Tony,

How about both SEC teams lose 2 games do you like a rematch of Boise St. vs. Oregon in the title game if they both win out? I know the South and East coast media would be upset but put the two best teams in the game and let them play. Boise St. always comes to play in bowl games win or lose and I think they could beat anybody in the country in Pasadena this year even USC.

[...] and are the two top teams in the first BCS Standings. The AJC’s Tony Barnhardt thinks that this is a possibility with the huge gap that exists between these two teams and the rest of the BCS. There is no way you can convince me that an undefeated Iowa team deserved to play for a [...]

dumptruckeddiesdog

October 19th, 2009
3:30 pm

Sometimes I wonder if maybe TCU vs Boise St. should be the BCS title game. I had no problem with Boise St. vs. Utah in the title game last year and still to this day think that should have been the game.

Tide Rising

October 19th, 2009
3:32 pm

It would be terribly unfair to ask Bama to beat Florida twice and vice versa. If we beat UF I would much rather play Texas or Iowa than have to face the gators a 2nd time. Can you imagine having to beat those guys twice? And it wouldn’t be right to leave out an undefeated or once beaten Texas or Iowa team either even if most are of the opinion that Bama and UF are the 2 best teams.

As for the possible Ohio State and Michigan rematch that would truly have been a travesty since both of those teams were exposed in their bowl games as not being the best 2 teams to begin with. It was all ESPN media hype that had some people thinking rematch.

We still have a lot of tough games left and I wouldn’t be that surprised if either or both Bama and UF both drop a game. Bama still has LSU, Auburn, and a MSU team that I still think will surprise someone. Besides, if we drop one game and its LSU that we lose to then they could run the table, win the division, and the whole point of this national title rematch is mute. Then we could start an argument as to whether or not Bama would deserve a shot at the title game without having won our division. Wouldn’t that be something and I’m surprised no one seems to be talking about this as a real possibility?

I agree with Tony’s analysis of Georgia’s schedule. With rest the dawgs can come back fresh against UF and give the gators a game. If they can limit the turnovers and penalties and AJ has a big game UGA has a shot at an upset. I’m convinced South Carolina is tough and I think they can give the gators a tough game also

Bama was terrible this weekend. 10 penalties for 123 yds, 4 turnovers, McElroy’s worst performance this season. The old adage holds true that defense can be depended on but offense can have a bad day as our qb did. Good thing our defense just suffocates opponents. Ryan Mallett 7 pts, Jevan Snead 3 pts, and now Stephen Garcia 6 pts and no tds allowed in the last 2 games against sec competition. Thank you defense.

Florida, like Bama this weekend, looked bad and seems to have offensive issues this year without Harvin and Louis Murphy on the edge. 23 pts vs UT, 23 vs Ark, 13 vs LSU. But like Bama the gators have an all star defense and defense wins championships. Besides, ya just can’t count Tebow out no matter what and he got it done again Saturday. Still a lotta ball to be played folks

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
3:32 pm

I know this might sound like nit-picking but I noticed they have Florida’s strength of schedule way too high while ranking Alabama’s too low which is giving Florida the edge for their #1 ranking. Now we all know going into the season Florida had the easiest schedule in the SEC.How is their strength of schedule much higher than Bama’s? Bama has beat 3 or 4 ranked teams while Florida has only beat 1.

robodawg

October 19th, 2009
3:35 pm

If Texas loses to a midlevel team (which is all that’s left on their schedule), and Florida and Bama run the table, yeah, a rematch could definitely happen. Especially if the SEC championship game is a close game. And ESPECIALLY if Bama is the team that wins that game, because there will be a lot of noise on ESPN for Tebow to get a chance at the title.

JOHN MITCHELL

October 19th, 2009
3:35 pm

Hey gatorgrowl, you can call all of us cry babies but the truth is you would have lost if not for the zebras. Your wide receiver Cooper committs pass inteference on most plays (just like he did on his TD aginst LSU), and why does Timmy get a pass on excessive celebration that nobody else does? I want the best team to represent the SEC and even with all the help, it’s not you gayturds.

Dale

October 19th, 2009
3:45 pm

Copy that robo. Gotta have more Tebow.

Erk Russell Lives!

October 19th, 2009
3:46 pm

The reason Bama and UF won’t play for the BCS title is this:

If whoever loses the SECCG wins in the MNC game, then the teams will be 1 and 1… how can you call one better than the other if they’re 1 and 1 in back-to-back games? That’s why Mich and OSU didn’t rematch a few years back… it would be inconclusive

I'm Tommy from the T.V. show Cheaters

October 19th, 2009
3:48 pm

We know one thing for sure about the BCS National Title Game, the Dawgs will not be there.

G8R GRAD

October 19th, 2009
3:50 pm

Tide Rising:

Well said.

This season looks a lot longer after UF’s performance this weekend (and last) than it did in September!

dumptruckeddiesdog

October 19th, 2009
3:59 pm

The SEC will not win the championship in Pasadena unless they play Iowa and I will tell you why. Boise St. and USC can feel easy and relaxed with not that far to travel and we know how SEC schools hate to travel out of the timezone. Tony Barnhardt makes smart picks most of the time but to just flat out assume can make you look foolish. Boise St. is highly motivated and TCU has speed that hang in there with Florida’s defense. Gary Patterson will highly thought of for alot of BCS jobs in the future too.

Why not Tebow?

October 19th, 2009
4:04 pm

The calls against Arkansas were terrible. Ask yourself this –why doesn’t Tebow get called for excessive celebration? His offenses are egregious when compared with what other players are being called for. Is it love or racism? I actually think it’s love (see above — 11 SI covers in a year) but have heard the racism question raised. The SEC needs be consistent regardless of player or team.

chuck

October 19th, 2009
4:08 pm

When you play Florida you are going to play 11 against 17. The Florida players and the officials. If you are watching you know what I mean.

G8R GRAD

October 19th, 2009
4:08 pm

Even though UF averaged 41 points per game the last two years and we are averaging just 25 points per game against SEC opponents this year, let’s not let a couple of tough games give us a defeatist mentality.
Bear in mind:
The Gators are still leading the league overall in scoring offense, total offense and rushing offense!

GO GATORS!

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
4:10 pm

dumptruckeddiesdog,

I’ll tell you why you are wrong.Utah would not have beat Florida last year eventhough Utah was undefeated last year.They would’nt have beat Alabama had the same Alabama team that won 12 games in a row had showed up.This is why playoffs would not change who wins the NC game. If that sugar bowl Bama and Utah played in had been for the NC Utah would not have beat Alabama and I don’t think they could’ve beat Oklahoma either.Just like in basketball a little team might make it to the playoffs but the big teams win in the end.

red hill

October 19th, 2009
4:12 pm

Absolutely NOT on a UA/UF rematch. As was applied to UGA in ‘07 it is now de facto law that one must win the conference to play for it. The loser should be sent to another bowl. Typical media bias. OU, UT, UF, UA, USC would have all played for it in ‘07. BCS=BS. THW UA AND UF.

The refs

October 19th, 2009
4:19 pm

Quit your whining you gator haters! Of course Florida and Tebow get preferential calls. Of course Tebow can jump up and down all day long bringing attention to himself and failing and wailing his arms like a chicken with its head cut off. Don’t you know? He’s TIM TEBOW!

dumptruckeddiesdog

October 19th, 2009
4:25 pm

I disagree. Utah look far superior to Alabama and Florida would not have faired much better either. A good hurry up offense will turn SEC defenses into swiss cheese and don’t forget Utah and Boise St. are top defenses. The chip on these team’s shoulders is as big as an SEC fan’s ego. Utah proved they were a notch better than Florida last year and TCU can do the same thing if they run the table.

G8R GRAD

October 19th, 2009
4:28 pm

The refs are NOT conspiring to allow certain programs succeed over others.
Mistakes are made by everyone, some more often than others.
EVEN those on this blog!
What’s next?
Obama and the entire intelligence community are under deep cover in college football?
Please give it a rest.

GACRIMSON

October 19th, 2009
4:29 pm

Tony,Stinger’s comments make me think he’s a billy goat on top of a mountain west conference-you just keep doin what you do.Sorry for you loss and welcome back……..also enjoying your tv program and sat.analysis……….rtr everybody !

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
4:30 pm

Tell us who has TCU beat that is ranked?

Dale

October 19th, 2009
4:32 pm

Erk, but that was exactly the scenario to Florida’s 1996 NC. Florida State beat them last game of the year, then UF won the rematch and was crowned.

Navigator

October 19th, 2009
4:34 pm

I rather think that unlikely. There will be a bunch of one loss teams waiting to replace the loser of that game. My feeling is the BCS would love to have either Texas or Southern Cal play the winner of the Alabama – Florida SEC championship. You’re talking about big fan support and big money.

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
4:37 pm

If Alabama can make it I’d much rather Alabama play USC for the NC.

m

October 19th, 2009
4:38 pm

The sec is by far the weakest I have ever seen it in my lifetime. If we had a legitimate 16 team playoff system…instead of the INSANE BSbcs…there is no way an sec team would make the finals.

The real sec champion will be Georgia Tech…who will go 3-0 in the pitiful sec this year. Being sec champion this year is truly nothing to brag about.

pmccarth

October 19th, 2009
4:39 pm

Let’s also talk about ratings…. Wouldn’t the powers that be much prefer a Florida/Alabama winner matchup versus a Texas or USC. Especially if the game is in LA. Finally, a decent game without one of the O schools (Ohio State-Oklahoma).

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
4:43 pm

pmccarth,

Not only would the powers that be much prefer a Alabama/Florida winner matchup verses a Texas or USC but so would the fans of college football. Who would want to see Alabama vs TCU or Florida vs Boise St compared to the ones I mentioned above?

Head in the sand...

October 19th, 2009
4:48 pm

Dumptruck,

would last years Oklahoma offense count as hurry up?

They sure did turn the gators into Swiss cheese.

Idiot.

Tide rising

October 19th, 2009
4:53 pm

dumptruckfreddiesdog,

Beating a disinterested Alabama team in a one game upset is not the same as beating a fully focused Florida team playing for a national championship. There is no way on God’s green earth that Utah would have beaten a focused Florida team. You’re talking about a Florida defense that completely shut down OU(14 pts). This was an OU offense averaging over 60 pts a game in their previous 5 big 12 contests.

I respect Boise and Utah and the mountain west in particular. A lot of sec fans in particular don’t realize that some of those teams out west play some pretty good football. But Boise plays 1 or 2 tough games a year. Utah plays a good BYU and TCU game every year and that’s about it.

There is a big difference between winning a one game upset like Utah over Bama or Boise over OU than winning against those teams week in and week out in an sec schedule or a big 12 south division schedule. For example through 7 games Bama has already played and beaten 5 ranked teams that will all probably go bowling.

By the time we complete our season including the seccg should we get there we will have played probably 8-9 teams that will end up in bowl games and of those most of them would have been ranked at some point. And out of all of them at least 3 of them LSU, UF, VT are teams that would have been ranked in the top10 when we played them.

When Boise and Utah play and defeat 8 -9 teams that either go bowling and or are ranked at some point in a single season including several top 10 teams then I will give them full credit. But the fact is they will never play that level of competition week in and week out for a full season and hence that is why they never get the respect they crave.

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
4:54 pm

m,

Alabama and Florida would still be in the playoff picture if we had playoffs.What would it change?You’d still think Alabama looks like the toughest team to beat right now in college football.

dumptruckeddiesdog

October 19th, 2009
5:05 pm

Florida has played 1 ranked team, Texas played one ranked, Boise St. has played one ranked team, and Oregon has played 3 ranked teams. I guess Oregon is #1 they are the most dangerous team in the country right now. The SEC from the bottom is not as great as you think. When a team like Utah obliterates a team like Alabama I guess SOS don’t matter after all or Alabama should’nt have one. The term “disinterested” you used to describe Alabama in the Sugar Bowl is a disgraceful excuse that all BCS teams use when they stink it up.

dumptruckeddiesdog

October 19th, 2009
5:11 pm

How about the SEC send your best team to Boise, ID or Utah and see how they like it? I got a feeling you won’t like it after 4 quarters are up but you can suckerpunch our players when we win. The SEC might have better players but Boise St. and Utah are a better team possibly. Utah was the best team in the country last year and everybody outside the south knows it. Boise St. could be this year’s version of SEC Buster if given the opportunity. Florida looks worse and worse every week and offensive playcalling is not going to win them anything in Pasadena against a defense like TCU or Boise St. The MWC all but owned the SEC last year and history could repeat. Alabama is better than Florida but neither one of them is better than TCU or Boise St. so far this year.

pmccarth

October 19th, 2009
5:15 pm

Tide4u2c, I think an Alabama vs. USC or Texas or a Florida vs. USC or Texas in the Rose Bowl for the National Championship would break all sorts of ratings records. Especially, since the game is in LA, an Alabama vs. USC game would be awesome. One can only hope this is the year. Four years ago, it was in Pasadena and that game was incredible as well. Lets hope the voters and/or “computers” get it right.

Sting 'em Buzz

October 19th, 2009
5:16 pm

CFB Lover,

I like that plan for a bonus for every flag I throw. Call the GHSA and get that one implemented.

Tide rising

October 19th, 2009
5:17 pm

dumptruckeddiesdog,

Its true that UF has only played 1 ranked team so far. But by the end of the season they will have played probably 5 teams that have been ranked and overall probably 7-8 teams that will end up going bowling. Can Boise or Utah say the same? Nope.

When I say disinterested Bama team I’m not making excuses. Utah whupped us fair and square. But if you think Utah could have rolled through the sec 12-0 please put down your crack pipe. You know damn well there is no way in hell a Utah or Boise could consistently post 10 win plus records playing in the sec In any given year a good Utah or Boise would go 7-5 or 8-4 in the sec. And while we take note of good wins by Boise you conveniently ignore the 49-14 obliteration that the dawgs put on Boise a couple of years ago. Seems Boise don’t want no more of that. Better to stay in the friendly confines of the Big western athletic conference. And again. Beating Oregon is an accomplishment. But could they go through a pac 10 scheudule and beat USC, Cal, and everyone else on top of beating Oregon? Nope! Same with Utah, TCU, or BYU. BYU beat OU by a pt when Bradford went down but then got blasted 59-14 by a mediocre FSU team.

Still not getting my point? These are good teams but my point is that they can’t and don’t play and beat good teams on a consistent week to week basis.And that is a point you simply cannot dispute. San Jose state is not the same as LSU or South Carolina, etc.

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
5:18 pm

dumptruckeddies,

Tell us how you would not be disinterested if you were in Alabama’s shoes. You just won 12 games in a row and was about 10 minutes away from beating Florida and playing for the NC and you are rewarded by a game in the sugar bowl against Utah.Why not Texas or USC,etc? Utah? You gotta be kidding.

Fleischman in Chi-Town's bed

October 19th, 2009
5:22 pm

Whats the over/under on Tony Jabroni picking UGAy to upset UF?

“Georgia wins because they HAVE to!”

Fleischman in Chi-Town's bed

October 19th, 2009
5:23 pm

Did you get those “sexts” yesterday stud?

Tide rising

October 19th, 2009
5:25 pm

dumptruckfreddiesdawg,

The MWC owned the sec last year? And you base this on what? One freaking game? R u serious?

And everyone outside of the south knew for a fact last year that Utah was better than Florida? Really? Then why didn’t people out west, up north, the midwest, etc all vote Utah no. 1 over Florida?

You really are doing drugs if you think Utah was better than Florida last year? How many top 10 teams did Utah beat last year other than Bama? How many bowl teams did they beat? Mmmm. Not many. You’ve lost all credibility when you try to assert that after one big win that Utah and or Boise or or were better than Florida.

Bamain the A-T-L

October 19th, 2009
5:27 pm

I’d like to talk some smack here but last year we were No. 1 and lost to Florida. Until they lose a game they should be No. 1.

I still think Bama is 2 years away from being fully stocked. Saban has only had 2 full recruiting classes. His first one in 2007, he was only on the job for one month.

Give Saban 4 full recruiting classes and by 2011 Bama will be unbeatable.

dawglover

October 19th, 2009
5:35 pm

You would have to be blind not to see the absolute bias this year for Tebow. Is he a great athlete? Yes. But it is very unfair and unprofessional to call excessive celebration and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties in other games and ignore him. He frolics up and down the sidelines, (something the TV cameras don’t always show) doing the gator chomp and is never called for any penalties. Then Georgia fans are called whiners because we only want all the refs to be equitable. Arkansas should’ve won that game and even you gator homies have to realize, though it appears you don’t have the wherewithal to admit it, that the refs gave you quite a few assists on your “win” via non-calls and bogus calls.

Tide rising

October 19th, 2009
5:35 pm

dumptruckfreddiesdawg,

I went to stassen.com and looked up Boise and Utah’s alltime records vs the SEC. Utah’s win over Bama last year makes them a collective 1-10 against the sec with Boise being 0-4 with an average loss margin of 39-17 and Utah going now 1-6 with an average score of 17-34 vs the SEC. Now kindly dispense with the Utah and Boise nonsense.

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
5:45 pm

Just more evidence that if we had a playoff nothing would change on who wins the NC. The little teams might make it to te playoffs but will lose just like in college basketball.I know some of you will say well lets see it happen but then you are ruining college football by making championship teams have to play games that nobody really wans to see.Now sure it is always possible that a little team could pull it off maybe 1 time out of ten times winning a NC but why ruin college football to get the same outcome we have now?The big teams winning in the end.

NatationalGame

October 19th, 2009
5:45 pm

The facts will be that an SEC school will be in the NC game. If Florida and Alabama go to the SEC Championship undefeated, there is a good chance they will be slotted against each other for a rematch due to strength of schedule, etc…One of the teams losing to the other, unless it’s a blow out, doesn’t hurt you. Losing to #1 or #2 won’t hurt much. Then you have Texas who would be up next. One thing for sure, an ACC, Big Ten, Big East won’t be making an appearance. Miami and Tech would need every team to lose in front of them and maybe twice to move up. Strength of schedule again. We may as well plan on it, another NC will be an SEC team.

m

October 19th, 2009
5:48 pm

Tide rising….

We don’t know if Utah was better than floriduh or not….we don’t know if floriduh was better than Utah or not.

But we do know for a absolute fact that Utah came into the mecca of the sec…the Sugar Bowl and stomped a mudhole in the Tide.

You didn’t know who would win last year and you don’t know who would win this year.

NatationalGame

October 19th, 2009
5:53 pm

Bowls are horrible comparison’s. Utah beating Alabama, well that was the only game Utah had to get up for the entire year. That is why a 7-5 LSU team with a poor defense beat a 9-3 heavy offensive Georgia Tech team. The SEC’s only loss in the bowls last year was the Sugar Bowl. Does anyone think Boise State could play in the SEC and go 6-6? Utah in the Big 12 and go 6-6? I doubt it.

Recruitnik

October 19th, 2009
6:00 pm

Tony you have failed miserably as someone who is supposed to be covering college football. First off the #1 post is idiotic. We are halfway in the year. It’s still too early to talk about that dumb scenario. It’s won’t happen. Second you should represent the fans more than you do. The officiating in the arkansas-florida game was why Florida won. You remove those bad calls and it’s most likely Florida does not win that game. How about actually address the horrible calls that went in florida’s favor. Florida had 3 penalties all game long. In a game like that which was very physical and they were behind for a lot of it you really think they had just 3 penalties all game? You really don’t think the 4 straight calls or no calls for two PIs that should have been called on UF did not affect the outcome of the game? Don’t give Tebow credit for what the officials did.

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
6:04 pm

m,

Bama was gaining on Utah in the 2nd half without an O-line.Utah won fair and square but lets not go overboard.Utah did not dominate Alabama.Go back and look at how many points Utah beat Bama by it was not domination.Not even Florida dominated Alabama.Ne team has dominated Alabama since Sban arrived.Yes Alabma has lost but has not ben dominated.And it goes back to what I have been saying Yout team might beat Bama but you are going to have to earn it and even then you won’t dominate Bama.

Rolled Tide

October 19th, 2009
6:07 pm

m:

Did you hurt yourself when you and the other Stick Men of Tech tried to wrestle with your goalposts? Heard there were numerous asthma attacks and acne breakouts and a few of the geeks even shat themselves.

I know this winning thing is new for you guys but try not to embarrass yourselves further.

DawgMAN

October 19th, 2009
6:58 pm

I personally think that UGA is the “Cal” of the Pac 10.

Every year – come in repectfully ranked.
Every year – win a good share of their games and go to a good bowl.
Every year – they get blown out at least once – yet another wannabe team -finishing 3rd or 4th in their conference.

Looking back:
Tennessee has won 3 of the last 4 against UGA
Florida has won 3 of the last 4 against UGA (FL has won 8 of last 10)
2006 – TN beat us 51-33
2007 – TN beat us 35- 14 (up 28-0)
2008 – Beat TN – but blown out by Alabama and Florida
2009 – TN beat us – again by blow out – 45-19

The reality is that we are the SEC East #3 for the last 4 years – with exception to 2008 – #2.

I understand that it is a tough conference with Parity – but in the last 4 years – we have been beaten by all SEC East teams (Vandy, KY, SC, TN and Florida – as well as AUB, LSU and Alabama)

The reality is – since 2005 – we are going backward – and dadgum lucky we are not 3-4 and possibly 2-5 this year. This is the culmination of an underachieving staff that is reaping what is has sowed over the last few years.

I for one think we will be 4 – 4 after the Florida game – and let’s hope that at least we show up and compete. I would wager that BLOW OUT CITY is around the corner.

Guys – that leaves TN Tech, Aub, KY and GT – we will need to win two of these games to get to Shrevesport or Nashville.

Know since in specualting our current rank in the SEC – we are midpack and hanging on – not improving like ARK or South Carolina.

What has happened to this program??????????????????????????????????????

Time to quite selling carpet and Ford trucks – and focus on this program on how win SEC titles and National titles – not just competing.

Jim Donnan left the program in great shape with exceptional talent. He wasn’t the coach to get us there.

Is the program in better shape now than in 2001?

Ha s our coaching staff gotton complacent?
4 -4 guys! 4-4!!!!!

Again – what the heck has happened to this program.

BAMA STAN

October 19th, 2009
7:12 pm

12 NATIONAL TITLES – 21 SEC Titles!!!

Tide4u2c – hate to argue with you – we lost to Utah 31-17.
For credibility – I would say we were not blown out – but we were DOMINATED. We lost by 14 points!!! We were sloppy and just showed up thinking we were too good to lose. UTAH had something to prove – and beat our A$$.

As I recall – we never lead in this game – played frantically to get caught up – but UTAH lead by more thatn 2 scores pretty much the entire game. Great Lesson here. We were never in this game – maybe not a blow out – but we were DOMINATED.

We beat UGA 41-30 – by 11 pints. Gave up 30 points in the second half!
Yes – this game was a Blow out – after leading 31-0 at the half – our boys were thinking DREAMLAND BBQ. FINAL SCORE WAS NOT A BLOW OUT – but we DOMINATED THIS GAME and cruzed!!!!

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SC Rules!!!

October 19th, 2009
7:16 pm

Howdy folks,

Miss me?? I’m sure y’all have. Well now that we are into the heart of the season I figured I’d come on back and see how y’all are doin. As for that near miss for Urban Crier and his ilk, I mean the lizards well I can only say y’all are gonna need to do a whole lot better if y’all hope to making your way to SoCal for the NC game. BTW we already know the way to Pasadena, it’s become our home away from home for New Years lately. Well we’ll be waiting for which ever sacraficial lamb y’all put before the alter of Pete. Look what he does week in and week out, what the hell do ya think he’ll do to y’all with a month to prepare!

Fight On!!

Dawg Days

October 19th, 2009
7:22 pm

Jimmy Ray Richt has indeed lost his mojo. If UGA was a stock it would be a strong sell.

We spackled over a lot of problems with good/great athletes last year. Jimmy Ray Richt stressed that he would evaluate the program in the off-season and make the necessary changes. He did nothing except pay all assistants bonuses thereby rewarding failure.

The biggest issue is that Jimmy Ray Richt doesn’t think last year was a failure. Predictably we have all the same problems as last year plus a few more!!

Every time our defense plays half-way decent, Jimmy Ray Richt defends CWM, removing all hope for the most necessary change of all. Fans can/will put up with a lot as long as there is hope on the horizon. Unfortunately, there is nothing great on the horizon at UGA. Next year, we will have an inexperience D-line, an inexperienced QB, the same RBs, the same O-line. We will have an easier schedule, so we may only lose 5 or 6 next year.

SEC

October 19th, 2009
7:28 pm

SC Rules!!!:

How about we put KY, Vandy or Miss St on the alter of Pete? You guys would doubtless give our best a good game but your trademark is losing to the dregs.

BTW, what’s with all the ya’ll stuff? I live in So Cal and do not hear that from the natives.

Tide4u2c

October 19th, 2009
7:32 pm

I did’nt know a 14 point win was domination.To me domination is when you beat a team by 3-4 or more touchdowns.

SC Rules!!!

October 19th, 2009
7:34 pm

SEC,

‘Bama blood on my Mommas side. Little Arkansas mixed in for good measure.
KY gets propts, Coach Brooks has the boys in blue playin some decent ball.
I’d love nothin more than for a ‘Bama vs. SC matchup in the NC; be just like the good ole days. (Coach McKay & Coach Bryant in the early 70’s)

Fight On!!

p.s. The Song Girls are sure easy on the eyes too!!!!

BAMA STAN

October 19th, 2009
7:34 pm

12 NATIONAL TITLES – 21 SEC TITLES!!!

idh – I can answer your question.

Why is ARK 3-3 ranked over UGA 4-3?
Perception my friend!!!!
AND
What have you done for me lately!!!!

ARKANSAS
- exciting loss to UGA (considered a quality loss at the time)
- Blown out by Alabama. (ARK is now forgotten)
- Totally Blew out TEXAS A&M (National audience)
- Domintated unbeaten AUBURN – (ARK considered improving)
- Played lights out against FLORIDA – had the upset in their sights.

1. Perception
ARKANSAS is an improving team. that struggled early to find itself but can now compete against excellent competition.
2. What have you done for me lately?
– Huge blow out win over TEXAS A&M
– BLOW out win over AUBURN
– Quality LAST SECOND LOSS against FLORIDA

NOW LOOK AT UGA:
- lost against OSU (UGA did not look good in this game)
- Beat South Carolina (a game that SC OUTPLAYED uga)
- Exciting win over ARKANSAS in yet another close game.
- Beaten by LSU (quality loss)
- Blown out by TENNESSEE (not considered a good team)
- Beat Vandy.

1. Perception
- UGA is perceived (and righfully so) as a team that is not improving
- but is struggling to find itself.

2. What have you done for me lately
- lost to LSU
- Blown out in embarrassing fashion by Lane Kiffin and Tennesee (which had a losing record including a loss against Auburn which ARK dominated).

So you can see – UGA is not respected this season after the BLOW OUT LOSS against TENNESSEE – and will tumble further after they get killed by FLORIDA.

As DAWGMAN stated, “4-4″ “What happened to this program?”

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAMA STAN

October 19th, 2009
7:43 pm

12 NATIONAL TITLES – 21 SEC TITLES!!!

tide4u2c – Score did not indicate how we were dominated. Sometimes – the score does not tell the story.

I did a poor job of communicating that to you.

Would you say we blew out UGA and dominated them?
My answer – hell yes! – 31-0 at the half?
UGA was never in this game!

Were we blown out by UTAH?
NO – we did our best to keep it close – but they dominated us on the line – out hussled us on every play – Dominated the action – we were never in this game and UTAH kept it that way – beating us by 14 points.
They truly domintated us – but the score did not indicate the story of the game.

See what I am saying?

Another analogy is soccer. I have watched my daughter play club for years. I have seen games where we dominated and outshot an opponent 20-2 – yet only won the game 1-0.

However – we have lost games 3-0 – which were actually very close games with each team getting great shots and the play was even or maybe we possessed and outshot the opponent – yet lost 3 -0.

Score does not always indicate what happened on the field of play.

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!

SC Rules!!!

October 19th, 2009
7:46 pm

Dawg fans,

Now don’t y’all go fixin to run Coach Richt up a flag pole or nothin, he’s a damned fine coach and real good person. Y’all should be greatful to have someone of his calibur runnin your program. Look where the previous to got ya. Change for the sake of change may bring back some very unpleasant memories. Y’all lost some fine players from last year and the recruiting has been a bit of struggle of late what with the raids on GA talent that Coach Saban has made of late. Just sit tight, all will be well with the Dawgs if y’all don’t go throwin the baby out with the bathwater.

SC Rules!!!

October 19th, 2009
7:50 pm

Lizard fans;

Now don’t go blamin us for stokin the Urban Cryer flames at ND after we took care of ole Charlies “boys” but once again. I know the thought of him headin North last winter about drove y’all to Crocodile tears with the rumors that Charlie was out and Urban was being given the keys to the Pope mobile.

Fight On!!

Dawg of Pleasure

October 19th, 2009
7:55 pm

Bama Stan:

Holy $hit! Are you really beating that dead horse from early last year??!!!
Good god man-MOVE THE FOCK ON, MORON!
Of course, if there was no past, you’d have no life. What a pathetic loser. You are worse than the Tech geeks. At least they don’t know better!

Dawgzilla

October 19th, 2009
7:57 pm

Stanly Bama:

Utah assed rape you last year. It was an SEC embarrassment. Now, go the fuc away!

Driver 8

October 19th, 2009
7:58 pm

Wow Stan. I’ll bet your friends just can’t stand you.

SC Rules!!!

October 19th, 2009
8:02 pm

Dawg of Pleasure,

BS I mean Bama Stan can’t help himself, he only has that ghost of a memory of real glory to cling too. True when Coach Bryant was runnin rough shod over the SEC the Tide was a great program. But hells bells people give the 21st century a try. Y’all have had one great year in how long??? Let’s not give Nick “Knighthood” just yet. Win a NC or two in this century first!

Fight On!!!

Delbert D.

October 19th, 2009
8:06 pm

The Florida-Arkansas gamed lacked only Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby and Earl Warren as far as conspiracy/controversy goes. Refs in the tank for UF? ESPN/ABC money? There ain’t no mulligans in football, and UF got a few. I hope that Bama gets some when they need them to make it fair.

SC Rules!!!

October 19th, 2009
8:13 pm

Later Gators,

Gotta go jump into the mix on the 405; don’t go Urban cryin yourselves to sleep thinkin about what Ole Pete is brewin for y’all come January. That is IF y’all can con your way past Bama again. (Better save some of that $$$ for the refs come SEC Championship time, lord knows y’all ‘ll need it)

Win Forever!!!! Fight On!!!

SC Rules!!!

October 19th, 2009
8:18 pm

Tony;

Now on more than one occasion I have gladly given propts where they are do with respect to the fine work you do year in and year out reporting on the great game of college football. But what is with todays column??? The loser of the SEC title game deserves to be in the NC game??? Clearly this is a pre-emptive April Fools joke on your part.(?) Where’s the love you show SC at the start of a season??

Fight On!!

Scott

October 19th, 2009
8:19 pm

It sure looked like UF got the benefit of two huge 15yd penalties. The SEC is a well-oiled money-making machine. An Arkansas win over UF would have hurt the revenue potential for the entire conference. Who is paying those officials anyway? Oh yeah, the SEC. At this point, UF and Bama will get the close calls to make sure they get to the SEC championship game.

Army Vet

October 19th, 2009
8:53 pm

Has anyone seen or heard from HEATH……the internet “war hero and all around tough guy”?

Two-minute Stevie

October 19th, 2009
8:55 pm

LMFAO AT GA TECH BEATING THE FIGHTING TEBOWS!!!!!

Two-minute Stevie

October 19th, 2009
8:56 pm

If Ga Tech is the SEC Champ, why did they run out of the SEC 30 years ago?

War Eagle

October 19th, 2009
8:58 pm

The fad of of facilities, TV marketing and rap tunes from coaches has brought football into an era compared to Barry Switizer, Woody Hayes and John McKay.Win at NO cost.
Sportswriters, TV announcers and local bars have their favorite teams. It seems college President jobs sometimes appear jeopardize by “football team State of the Union”.
My point is Florida and Alabama are leading all Nations in the above. The Tide will change and the Gators stop snapping as the the Tigers will roar again, Bulldog will bark again and Smoky Mountain hound will howl soon.
You can go to the Colonial Bank on that…..

Obama for Heisman

October 19th, 2009
9:01 pm

The calls were BS. No one is denying that. Not even Florida. However, we gave the Arkansas high-powered offense four turnovers. Three in our redzone. You can point to the refs all you want but they had every opportunity to put us away early and never did. What about when the Razorback defender kicked the ball out of Rainey’s hand? Shouldn’t that have been a penalty? He takes that ball to the endzone had the defender not kicked him. An illegal play.

I hope these calls are addressed. Unsportsmanlike Conduct calls are almost always crap.

SEC-YA!!

October 19th, 2009
9:03 pm

For all your bleeding heart lib..er, Techies, your “Lord Bobby Dodd” decided Tech should leave the SEC. This is an excerpt from the book Dodd’s Luck. It is Dodd’s description of the events.

Bobby Dodd insisted there was no other reason he left the SEC, other than the 140 Rule. The 140 Rule stated a college program could only have 140 football and basketball players on scholarship at any one time. The teams were allowed to sign up to 45 players a year, but could not exceed the 140 Rule.

Dodd would not allow any of the football players choosing Tech to be dismissed from Tech, because they were not good players. Dodd said, “it is not the recruits fault for not making the squad, it was the coaches fault for misjudging their talents”. If a recruit came to Tech, he would stay on a football scholarship until he graduated.

Dodd would sign about 30-32 players a year to meet the guidelines, but the other schools in the SEC were offering 45 scholarships a year. Those players, not good enough to fall under the 140 Rule, had their scholarships withdrawn and sent packing before the end of each year. Dodd insisted, the recruiting of athletes by this method amounted to nothing more than a tryout for a scholarship.

Dodd thought it unfair and would not withdraw scholarships from his players. He wanted the SEC to limit the amount of scholarships to about 32 per year. This would keep the other schools from offering 45 scholarships, picking the best, and sending the rest packing.

A vote was to be taken by the presidents of the colleges on the issue, and Dodd made it clear, Tech would have to leave the SEC unless the rule was changed. Dodd said he would live with 10, 20, 30, 40, or even 50 recruits per year as long as he did not have to chase any of his players off.

The presidents were split six for Dodd’s position and six against. Bear had promised Dodd he would get his president to vote for Dodd’s position, which would have changed the rule.

When the meeting was held, Bryant did not show up and the Alabama president voted against Dodd’s position and the 140 Rule was upheld. Tech’s president immediately walked to the podium and announced Tech was withdrawing from the SEC. Bryant never told Dodd why he reneged on his promise.

Some year’s later there was a movement to get Tech back into the SEC, but the two main schools to fight it the most and keep Tech from re-entering the SEC were Georgia and Auburn.

The ACC immediately offered Tech the opportunity to join its conference, but Dodd thought Tech could not compete in basketball in the ACC. Dodd decided to try the independent route as Notre Dame, Miami, and Penn State were faring well as independents. Tech WAS well known as a football power at that time, so Dodd figured the independent route would be the best for Tech.

Truth Is!

October 19th, 2009
9:30 pm

Tony, I’m getting a little concerned. Clearly the bogus call with the Dawgs and Lsu assured the matchup of Fla. and Lsu. Now the bogus interference call and the bogus unsportsmanlike call against Ark. assured the Gators victory. It seems that the SEC is attempting to insure that the topranked teams remain there. It reeks of improper action to insure an outcome.

Burgess

October 19th, 2009
9:49 pm

Tony, nice article….but Florida didn’t win because of Tebow, they won because of the officials. I really didn’t have a dog in that fight and I thought it was obvious that the officials were not going to let Arkansas win. I don’t question their ability, I question their intergrity.

Pitbull

October 19th, 2009
9:49 pm

Of course there can be a rematch of the Florida – Alabama SEC CG and you are watching it unfold as a direct result of the SEC Director of Officiating.

But as I am a Georgia fan let me present this from a Georgia fan’s view:

From my perspective Georgia is 3 ref flags on 3 bad calls from 5-1.

The Big 8 refs called a flag on Jones for a tackle that even the commentators said was not a penalty and that was on 4th down that would have stopped an OSU drive that resulted in a TD.

The Big 8 refs called a flag on the UGA punt returner who returned the punt to the OSU 5 yard line and could have easily resulted in a UGA TD.

That’s a 14 point swing on a game UGA lost by 14 points.

The SEC ref called a flag on our Number 8 which gave a short field to LSU in the end. If they the length of the field to go, I think we could have stopped them.

All three were judgment calls and judgment calls always seem to go against UGA.

On another front, I saw a UF player score a TD Saturday and wave his hands up at the crowd and not get flagged. Arkansas on the other hand got some questionable judgement calls.

Does anybody else out there think that the SEC officials tell their refs not to flag certain teams like UF so they can get them into the BCS CG for the money and recognition? I am beginning to think so.

Also does anyone know if the GT grad is still in charge of SEC officials? If so it is time for him to go. I wonder if the official who called the Jasper Sanks non fumble and the UGA non celebration against LSU are GT grads. Can someone check?

If you do not think there is something wrong with SEC officiating then read the following that just came out from the Associated Press:

SEC officiating crew makes another gaffe – The Associated Press

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — The Southeastern Conference says there’s no video evidence to support the personal foul call against Arkansas’ Malcolm Sheppard in the fourth quarter of the Razorbacks’ 23-20 loss to Florida.

It was the same group of officials that called the LSU-Georgia game earlier this month, which included a late unsportsmanlike conduct penalty the league said shouldn’t have been called.

Now in my opinion, those officials wanted LSU to win and they wanted UF to win and they made the calls to try and ensure the outcomes. I saw a UF receiver catch a touchdown pass against Arkansas, drop the ball, run up to the crowd and throw up his hands to them. Was HE flagged? Of course not. The score was too close and Florida might have lost.

The SEC wants Number 1 Florida to stay Number 1 and Number 2 Alabama to stay Number 2 for the SEC CG ratings and for the money and recognition that come from the BCS title game.

And I will also ask as was asked before: Does anyone know if that GT grad is still in charge of SEC officials in the SEC home office. If so it explains a lot about the calls against Georgia that the cameras cannot locate and the commentators cannot see or explain. If the GT grad is still there then he needs to go. If the SEC commissioner will not remove him then the SEC commissioner needs to go too.

I am beginning to see some dirty stuff from SEC refs. I just don’t know for sure if it is being dictated by the SEC Director of Officiating or if there is some payout to the refs going on.

To be sure if somehow by the grace of God the Dawgs are close in the 4th quarter and Georgia has a big play that puts them in position to win, an SEC ref will throw a flag to negate the play. You can count on it as a SEC policy decision to ensure the SEC maintains the position to play in the BCS CG.

Ga boy

October 19th, 2009
10:10 pm

Saw the talking football show on CSS tonight and several mentioned the bad calls in the Fla-Ark game BUT NOT Tony???? Tell me why Tony? Those 2 were as bad as I have seen lately-particularly the personal foul call where the lineman blocked the Gator lineman who was about to hit him. NO COMMENT TONY? Still shilling for the SEC eh?

Cautiously Optimistic

October 19th, 2009
10:30 pm

First off its way too early to be talking about a rematch. Second, I cant believe we are already considering a rematch when everyone and there brother said the Dawgs didn’t deserve a shot because we didn’t win our conference. The way I see it the loser had there chance to beat the other so they would be out. To me, that says we should have got our shot in 07 if the loser gets to play in the championship game. I’m not saying we should have been in the NCG but why should a team that lost to the other get a rematch when they didn’t win the conference???

Issues w/ the refs

October 19th, 2009
10:33 pm

Enough is enough… so the same crew that worked the prime 3:30 CBS game in Athens two weeks ago is rewarded by allowing to work the prime 3:30 CBS UF/Ark game? Tony, go ahead and tell us we are acting crazy and “nothing to see here” STOP covering up for your buddy, SLIVE! Ask the hard questions!

Gen Neyland

October 19th, 2009
10:35 pm

Rematches have been tried in the past. Only real interest is to the two teams fanbases. Unless there is a NCAA playoff of any nature that finds the rematch a reality, can it…

Issues w/ the refs

October 19th, 2009
10:35 pm

Let me guess… this same crew will work the UF/USC game in Columbia

Gen Neyland

October 19th, 2009
10:41 pm

Issues w/ the refs : Slive issued a gag order on the SEC coaches to shut their traps. Yet, some of the calls we’ve seen this year that have helped decide close games have been worthy of the complaints by the fans. My team has been excluded from this arguement (so far) Slive can’t tell us to shut up so let ‘er rip. Maybe instant replays of judgemental penalty calls will be in order…

BC

October 19th, 2009
10:52 pm

That figures. In ‘07 when West Virginia lost on the final weekend and set up what looked to be UGA playing for the National Championship, everybody went nuts and said the UGA couldn’t play for it all when they didn’t win their own conference. I seem to remember Nebraska doing it, and I assume it will be just fine for anybody but the Dawgs.

Cautiously Optimistic

October 19th, 2009
11:02 pm

BC as I said why should the team that loses get a shot when we didn’t in 07? Makes no sense. The team that loses had there chance to prove themselves. If you dont win your conference you cant get in right?????????? But it’s about ratings so the BCS will bend the rules if it sees fit. It’s not BCS…………it’s BS!!!

Issues w/ the refs

October 19th, 2009
11:06 pm

Gen Neyland… keep your fingers crossed and hope this crew does not show up in Tuscaloosa on Saturday.

Janice Wilfurt

October 19th, 2009
11:25 pm

Tony….

Tell the truth that after last year you wanted Alabama and Florida in a rematch in the title game. The BCS might consider it however since its in Pasadena they probably are hoping for Texas, USC, Oregon maybe Iowa to play the SEC Champion.

G8TR

October 19th, 2009
11:40 pm

Dawgs are hilarious — as usual. After blaming the LSU loss on something other than your team’s and your coach’s obvious shortcomings, you would think the thrashing by UT would have hobnail-booted some reality into your heads. Instead, everyone’s now trying to work the refs in advance of the UF game. Try to win an important game straight up for a change. Respect might even follow. What a bunch of whiners (as opposed to winners).

Tom

October 19th, 2009
11:50 pm

Mr. Barnhart. I know you also work for CBS, but if you are going to write for the AJC, during your time for the AJC do not give us your SEC biased BS. People in the media outside of the ones with money ties to the SEC are calling BS on the calls in the UF game. Terrel Owens even called BS on his Twitter page. A wide receiver calling BS on a pass interference play. Yeah, but you do not have the intgerity to say Arkansas got hosed. You make it sound like Florida and Alabama are ahead of everyone talent wise. Bama might be, but UF should have a loss right now. The refs, not Tebow, won that game for them.

GWJ

October 19th, 2009
11:59 pm

So Georgia can’t play for the National Championship in 2007 because it did not win the SEC, but the LOSER of this years SEC Championship game CAN play in the BCS Championship game?

Janice Wilfurt

October 20th, 2009
12:03 am

The SEC is the BEST conference in America for a long time now.

ua-uf rematch?

October 20th, 2009
12:34 am

In your dreams fatboy barnhart.

[...] Tony Barnhart of the AJC writes that there can be a Florida-Alabama rematch for BCS title. [...]

Not Disappointed!

October 20th, 2009
7:06 am

Come on Dawgs! Beat Florida. See you in late November on the Flats!

Ramblin Wreck!

[...] his nose at the sight of Boise-Cincy-Iowa at 4-5-6 in the BCS, suggested Monday that he’s getting the itch for a title game that doubled as SEC Championship West: 1. There CAN be an Alabama-Florida rematch [...]

rust

October 20th, 2009
4:50 pm

Will the AP just finalize their mythical national championship after the SEC championship game?
http://perpetualnationalchampionship.com

AugustaHorn

October 20th, 2009
7:01 pm

Tony: You are such an SEC homer. If Texas loses, but Iowa goes 12-0, the Hawkeyes will and should face the SEC champs for all the marbles. Iowa will have beaten Penn State, Wisconsin and Ohio State…ALL of them ON THE ROAD! And it’s not the Hawkeyes fault the Big 10/11 has no conference title game. Both Florida and Bama are very good. But both have weaknesses, especially on offense. They are not head & shoulders better than all other Top 10 teams. So if Texas loses, an undefeated Iowa would & should play an undefeated SEC champ for the BCS title. Yet I for one believe a few other upsets may still occur before such a scenario plays out, such as a Buckeye win over Iowa. Then a free-for-all could occur to determine the best one-loss team to face an undefeated SEC champ (i.e. Boise State will NOT be in the title game).

Coach O

October 20th, 2009
8:47 pm

dumptruckeddiesdog,

You’re pretty funny.

and AugustaHorn,

Let’s talk about an undefeated Iowa after the season’s over.

Call it Like It Is

October 20th, 2009
9:08 pm

RxDawg

Stop smokin that crack.

Gators roll big and win another SEC and NC unlike sorry GA who will finish 6-6.

Enough Said!

Call it Like It Is

October 20th, 2009
9:19 pm

Hey, all of you morons complaining about the refs!

The refs do not win or lose games.

Both AK and FL were the benefactors of bad calls.

However, the bottom line was AK CHOKED! They had an opportunity to win the game with two missed field goals and a missed touchdown pass to a WIDE open fullback.

The bottom line is all of you UGAY fans can’t stand the fact that FL won the game. Well guess what? The feeling is mutual! FL hates GA and their tasteless celebration gig two years ago, and all of the trash (can’t back it up talk to GA Tech and FL fans) every year.
But what happened to GA in 2008? Going into the season as the #1 ranked team, and did not do SH^&!

Choked against TN and yet allowed another opportunity to even play for a NC slip through ya hands. So until GA wins a NC, you ain’t got nothing to say, brag, or trash talk any fan on this blog.

Your team this year stinks and you and everyone here knows it. Yet, you blow the horn like you are a repeat champion.

Give me a F Break! U can trash talk or moan when you actually won something.

Until then, we do not really care.

Enough Said!

Facts anyone?

October 21st, 2009
9:54 am

GT outplayed and outgained LSU in the “Peach Bowl”??????????

LSU GT
1st downs 19 15
Rush yards 161 164
Pass yards 163 150
Total offense 324 314
Penalties 6-60 4-40
Turnovers 0 3

LSU 7 28 3 0 38
Georgia Tech 3 0 0 0 3

Hmm…I guess you watched a different game than the rest of us.

U.S. Postal Education

October 21st, 2009
10:00 am

Call it like it is -

I missed the Alaska – Florida game this weekend. Thanks for the recap.

[...] will continue apace, especially if the nightmare Alabama-Florida rematch scenario occurs. It likely won’t, but if that somehow happens, the campaigning will redefine whorish. [...]

Troof

October 21st, 2009
2:34 pm

10/19 @ 9:22AM – “The best team in the SEC is alabama. talk about focus. The Tide is a brutal juggernaut that will be hard for any team to beat. Saban’s recruiting successes are starting to pay dividends as other teams battle attrition and lack of depth. The Tide is just plugging in another star…”

Yep, that about sums it up. Teams take on the personality of their coach. Saban is intense and wants his teams to physically dominate their opponents. He did the same at LSU.

Richt seems to care less and wants his teams to be good dancers. Therefore, they are reduced to celebrating wins over Vandy. How the mighty Dawgs have fallen! Que lastima!

Mark Hooper

October 21st, 2009
3:39 pm

Tony, you are about as useless as Tim Tebow will be when he hits the NFL. Honeymoon over you fist pumping, pious poser! Meanwhile, Tony, why don’t you try to ramble on about something that remotely makes a lick of sense, you Georgia bafoon.

James Wilt

October 21st, 2009
4:28 pm

Tony,

I actually am keeping score at home and Georgia DID NOT have a bye before Florida in ‘97 yet still won. In fact, since 1990 they have had a bye 3 times, 1990, 1991, & 2007. Record 1-2.

When Florida has the bye, they are 12-1 since 1990. When neither had a bye, Florida is 2-1.

So, Georgia having a bye while Florida does not helps Georgia a bit, but not as much as you would have us believe.

Jim Ragan

October 22nd, 2009
12:44 pm

Mr. Barnhardt-add 2004 as another year that UGA had the week off before playing UF, while that same weekend the Gators had to go on the road to play Miss. St. Georgia won the following weekend against the Gators 31-24, which I believe was Ron Zook’s final year there at Gainesville.