There CAN be an Alabama-Florida rematch for BCS title

 

What we learned over the weekend:

1. There CAN be an Alabama-Florida rematch for the national championship. Last week I said that if Alabama and Florida were undefeated, ranked 1-2 and played a close SEC championship game, there would not be a rematch for the BCS title. That statement was based on the logical position that the human voters, who make up two-thirds of the BCS formula, would not watch one of those teams lose on Dec. 5 and less than 24 hours later vote them in to the BCS championship game.

 

But after seeing the first set of BCS standings on Sunday, I think it is now possible if No. 3 Texas loses at some point. That’s because there is a huge gap in the BCS average between No. 2 Alabama (.9526) and No. 4 Boise State (.8083) and No. 5 Cincinnati (.7870). Boise State’s computer ratings are only going to go down as the season progresses while Cincinnati’s will go up.

 

Secondly, I can’t remember when we’ve had this much of a competitive gap between the top two teams in the standings and the rest of the Top 10. Example: If you’re a voter in one of the polls, do you put a 12-0 Iowa into the big game over a 12-1 SEC team that just lost a close game to the No. 1 or No. 2 team in the nation?

 

 

2. Georgia Tech needs to pull for Clemson—hard. While it is possible that the ACC’s Coastal Division could end in a three-way tie among Miami, Georgia Tech, and Virginia Tech, all of the tiebreakers are falling towards the Hurricanes because they won the head-to-head matchup with the Yellow Jackets.

If those three teams tie at 7-1, then the spot in the ACC championship game goes to the team with the highest BCS ranking on Nov. 29. Miami is 10, Georgia Tech is 12, and Virginia Tech is 14. So that favors Miami. If the top two teams in the BCS standings are within five spots of each other, the winner of the head to head competition gets the spot. That also favors Miami.

 

The point is that Georgia Tech could run the table, which would include a win over Georgia, and finish ahead of Miami in the BCS standings. But if Miami is within five spots of Georgia Tech, then the Hurricanes go because of the head-to-head results. So Georgia Tech’s best chance of getting to the ACC championship game is win out and hope that Miami stumbles somewhere. The Hurricanes have five conference games left against Clemson, Wake Forest, Virginia, North Carolina, and Duke.

 

 

 

3. Georgia really needs a week off. I got criticized last week for even suggesting that Georgia’s schedule was a contributing factor to the Bulldogs’ poor play at Tennessee on Oct. 10. The fact is that you will not find a team in the country whose first six games were stronger than Oklahoma State (5-1), South Carolina (5-2, with a loss to No. 2 Alabama), Arkansas (3-3, with losses to No. 1 Florida and No. 2 Alabama), Arizona State (4-2), LSU (5-1 with a loss to No. 1 Florida), and Tennessee (3-3, with a loss to No. 1 Florida). There were no breathers in that bunch and teams get physically and emotional fatigued. You just can’t get up to play every week. You have to be able to win when you’re tired and don’t play well.

 

For those of you keeping score at home, Georgia last had a week off before the Florida game in 1997 and 2007. The Bulldogs won both games.

 

4. This Alabama team is much better than the one that started 12-0 last season. The Crimson Tide of 2008, which rose to No. 1, could really only beat you one way on offense. They would get behind that that huge offensive line and just grind you into submission. And that worked until Alabama played Florida in the SEC championship game. This Alabama team is much more diversified on offense, and showed it against South Carolina as running back Mark Ingram ran for 246 yards, with a lot of it coming out of the Wildcat formation. This team can do more things in the passing game with QB Greg McElroy (even though he has struggled for two straight games) and WR Julio Jones and TE Colin Peek. Defensively, despite the loss of LB Dont’a Hightower, the Crimson Tide can just beat you up. I believe all of this is by design because Alabama has been tweaking its team in anticipation of a rematch with Florida in the SEC championship game on Dec. 5.

 

5. Florida had no business beating Arkansas on Saturday. The Gators turned the ball over four times. Arkansas and QB Ryan Mallett were moving the ball with great consistency. The Arkansas defense had a great scheme to slow down the Florida running game. The game was looking like a carbon copy of Florida’s 31-30 loss to Ole Miss last year in the Swamp. But Florida did not lose because of No. 15, Tim Tebow. If he has any lingering effects from his concussion it did not show as Tebow carried the ball 27 times. When Arkansas missed a field goal that would have given them the Hogs the lead, was there any doubt No. 15 was going to take the Gators down the field and put them in a position to win? Tebow is the difference maker of all difference makers. That’s why the Gators will be undefeated when they play in the SEC championship game on Dec.  5.

 

 

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Dale

October 19th, 2009
11:27 am

Tebow has appeared on the cover of SI 11 times in just over a year. He has been featured on the cover 8 times. That is almost DOUBLE what Jordan ever had in the same amount of time.

Gator Fan

October 19th, 2009
11:29 am

You are right RX, Georgia will be punting way more than Florida. We will get punted out of the stadium, but you will have already gone by the third quarter…again. If we double Green, and stop the run, the doggies have no shot. What is bobo gonna do throw a screen?

Willie won’t get to Tebow, and Cox better get ready, we had some D line men and Spikes out for Arkansas, so don’t get too hopeful about the dogs O getting things going.

The only way UGA has a shot is with their special teams, they are good there, but O and D, advantage Florida.

GATOR88

October 19th, 2009
11:29 am

No BCS NC game rematch with the two teams. That is crap. Whoever wins moves on and hopefully pounds the opponent. If it’s BAMA I will be rooting for them also. If Gators play BAMA right now I see them winning by 10 points.

GATOR88

October 19th, 2009
11:30 am

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Vast Striped Shirt Conspiracy

October 19th, 2009
11:31 am

Why don’t you conspiracy freaks do something for me ? Look at the video of ALL SEC games this year and figure out how many bad calls there were, who the team was that was hurt by the bad call, and look at the totals by team. If Georgia is the only team that has been hurt, then there’s a conspiracy, all right. If other teams have had bad calls made against them, including Bama and Florida, then there’s likely NOT a conspiracy. This is simple enough even for YOU morons. Get back to us with the results.

Will

October 19th, 2009
11:38 am

UF got lucky against Arkansas for sure. By the way, that #33 for Arky looked like the second coming of DMac! I’m glad that guy didn’t play much against UGA or he would have had 300 yards rushing and 6 touchdowns.

I will be rooting hard on Halloween’s Day for my Dawgs but I don’t expect much. Our D is too soft & plays too slow to make plays against Tebow. The special teams is not much better and will cost us at some point during the UF game. As long as I have been watching football I have never seen a holding and a block in the back called on the same player on a kick-off. But that’s what happened to us against Vandy. Coach Fab is an idiot.

Greg

October 19th, 2009
11:40 am

You don’t have conspiracy’s with 2-3 loss teams. The ga call was made up by the refs with lsu getting the same penalty. Conspiracies happen with teams at the top or teams they want to see at the big game. IE florida texas usc in football. yankees dodgers in baseball. the shady calls often happen late in the game too to help a team in danger. ie florida this week. there were definitely 2 shady calls late in that game.

Dave R

October 19th, 2009
11:41 am

I’m with the ‘Bama-Florida rematch won’t happen, and would be absurd’ crowd. At least, if there are any other remaining undefeated teams (don’t kid yourselves on this one — the only undefeated BCS conference team to miss the BCS title game was 2004 Auburn. And there were three undefeated BCS conference teams that year. If Iowa or Cinci is one of the last two major-conference undefeareds standing, they’ll get to play for all the marbles), or any other one-loss BCS conference teams left (particularly the USC/Oregon winner).

Taylor

October 19th, 2009
11:46 am

After watching the Fla/Ark and Alabama/USC this weekend I am convinced there is some sort of a conspiracy among the officials to make sure that Fla and Alabama remain undefeated. There is too much money involved if Fla and Alabama meet in the SEC game undefeated. The other SEC teams will not have a chance against Fla and Alabama because the officials will influence the outcome. The officiating in the SEC is the cannot get any worse. One day the real truth will come out about the conspiracy.

timthebrave

October 19th, 2009
11:48 am

I hope its boise st vs cincy for the championship….That might force some hands for a playoff. Or Boise st vs TCU….Go dawgs!

Trade School Junkie

October 19th, 2009
11:48 am

Mr. College Football…ISN’T…Mr. College Football. It’s Mr. SEC.

I dont have a problem with TB calling himself, Mr. SEC.

But to call himself, Mr. College Football, is an insult to the reader, and an outright fraud.

This Horse-Sh** about: “The fact is that you will not find a team in the country whose first six games were stronger than…” is so blatantly contrived.

Just exactly HOW FAR does TB has his nose up Mike Slive’s arse?

Greg

October 19th, 2009
11:49 am

Taylor…exactly my thoughts too. Look at all the money involved in that game. Even the hotels and rest in atlanta count on it. If fla loses that game and who knows one more, it takes away the lure of the game. Same thing with bama. Watch the calls as we go down the stretch favor both the tide and gators. They want them both 1-2 when they meet each other. The sec AND espn want the winner of that game in the nat champ. and they want them both undefeated when they meet.

Does anyone know

October 19th, 2009
11:51 am

Who refs the games when an sec team plays an ooc rival? If the game is on the road, i guess the sec officials come and vice versa. Not good for tech when they play ga. But it’s good for fsu when they go to the swamp. lol

Got 12?

October 19th, 2009
11:54 am

Taylor and Greg,

As I stated in a previous post, the conference definitely wants to see two undefeated teams in the championship game. That’s simply business.

There were two obviously bad calls down the stretch in the UF game but what were the bad calls in Bama’s game?

Can't stand Barnhardt. King of useless info

October 19th, 2009
11:59 am

Hey, idiot Burnhardt, why did you not mention the bad officiating.

Got 12?

October 19th, 2009
12:00 pm

In the S. Carolina game, Bama committed 10 penalties for 113 yards. S. Car had 5 for 60 yards.

I’m sure Bama will get some calls down the stretch but it hasn’t happened yet.

Issues w/ the refs

October 19th, 2009
12:02 pm

No, I do not believe that there is a conspiracy but here’s the problem – the recent calls have been so outrageous that it opens the door for the folks who look for conspiracies. In this case, the SEC only has itself to blame. Something is wrong and needs to be addressed. The CBS crew has gone out of its way to point out the terrible calls. There is a problem!

DB

October 19th, 2009
12:04 pm

Big City, you lose to W&M, nobody should remember you.

Issues w/ the refs

October 19th, 2009
12:05 pm

Who within the SE-based media has the guts to seriously question Slive? Is there a good ‘ole boy netwrok between the SE media/writers and Slive?

bamafan

October 19th, 2009
12:06 pm

Didn’t someone on TV note on Saturday that the crew who made the bad calls in the UGA-LSU game was the same crew in the Arkansas-UF game?

Gatorzone

October 19th, 2009
12:07 pm

Gators looked bad Saturday. To me Tebow seems to be not right. His decisionmaking is slow and he is holding the ball longer. Even if it is 1 second longer, it is too much as evidenced by the sacks, fumbles and bad play. They seem to start every season like this, but I am not sure about them this year. To me Alabama looks like the best complete team in the country.
Yes, Gators got a few breaks in the game. That has to happen in order to win consistently. Remember all of the close games in 1980? People have gotten too accustomed to blowouts and expect them constantly which is impossible. Hopefully, UF can build off of this type game but only time will tell.

As far as a rematch, forget it. It will not happen.

Otto

October 19th, 2009
12:07 pm

The refs at the UK/Auburn game missed a very blatant block in the back on the run that setup UK’s last TD. The officiating is getting bad.

I said it last yer that the SEC needs to change to Big 12 tie breakers as did the ACC. The highest rated team should be sent to play for the title in the event of the 3 way tie. A conf champ goes to a BCS bowl where the team represents the conf. A conf should send their best, most tested team to that game.

Vast Striped Shirt Conspiracy

October 19th, 2009
12:11 pm

I haven’t noticed that you morons have gotten back to me with that list of bad calls in all games. Greg, if FL or AL loses, I suppose you will admit one of the following:
1) I (Greg) am an idiot
or
2) I (Greg) am a moron

Otto

October 19th, 2009
12:12 pm

I don’t think a Bama/UF rematch is likely especially in Iowa and Texas can run the tables. Possible? yes especially if it is a close game with a disputed call. Likely? no

If the SEC champ drops 1 and Texas, Boise St and Iowa run the tables it gets interesting to see if Iowa or Boise gets in. Bama is looking to have their best team in decades. I think they can run the tables.

CFB Lover

October 19th, 2009
12:13 pm

Wow, what a bunch of BS. Most of you would not know whether a call was right or wrong. Do you even know the rules? All college officials are reviewed each week and if they are making phantom calls they are called on the carpet. If it continues they are dismissed or suspended. This talk of conspiracy is idiotic. Do you really think that a conference or league would stand for that. If the SEC is telling it’s officials to make sure Fla and Ala win then the NCAA should sanction the SEC and do it fast. I know after 25 years of officiating that mistakes are made but not to change the flow of the game. You call what you see. Conspiracy is only in the minds of losers.

Rags

October 19th, 2009
12:17 pm

Regarding Florida and Alabama playing for the SEC championship and then the National Championship, I do not think it’s fair. If the teams split the games, one is 1-1 and the SEC champ, but the other is 1-1 and the National champ. Both teams are 1-1 against each other, and the “play in” game (i.e. the SEC championship) really did not count at all. Same thing almost happened with Ohio State and Michigan. Just ain’t logical.

CFB Lover

October 19th, 2009
12:19 pm

Players do nothing….the officials just call things because they have nothing else to do…I bet most of you did not know that an official gets a bonus each time he throws his flag….does not matter if he is right or wrong….flag hits the ground…and cha ching..another bonus…idiots.

guy

October 19th, 2009
12:19 pm

the conspiracy guys are right. remember how empty the dome was last year when bama played a florida team with one loss? total ghost town.

give me a break…

CFB Lover

October 19th, 2009
12:21 pm

It seems to me that most of the complaints are coming from the dawg nation and they were not even involved in the game. Where are the Ark fans? Do they have an opinion?

Fleischman in Chi-Town's bed

October 19th, 2009
12:25 pm

Where the hell is Eric and Roswell Ed ????

WDE ????

CFB Lover

October 19th, 2009
12:26 pm

I hope Tony is right and they do put two SEC teams in the BCS MNC. Then the rest of the conferences will surely push vey hard to get a proper playoff system. Sorry, I forgot that you can’t have a playoff because TV money will not allow it. Teams that are 6-6 would not get in the playoffs. Those team’s season would be over and the Toliet Bowl would have to shut down. CFB is now being run by the likes of ESPN, CBS, NBC and any other network that will antie up.

Vast Striped Shirt Conspiracy

October 19th, 2009
12:28 pm

Yep. These Dawg fans on here are real intelligent folks alright.

JWalker

October 19th, 2009
12:37 pm

If I was a GT fan and my season depends on Clemson, I’d go ahead and put my division championship aspirations away right now.

Gman

October 19th, 2009
12:42 pm

Don’t care what UF did against Arky. They will be up for us and will administer the annual ass-kicking. CWM is just what the Dr. ordered for the UF offense.

ARdawg

October 19th, 2009
12:44 pm

Barnhart

Quit with your fantasizing and slobbering all over yourself about a possible rematch with FL/AL. It wouldn’t happen in a million years. Who in the hell would WANT to see the loser of the SEC championship game in the NC game? Nobody but you apparently.

Listen, several years ago there was talk of USC (west) and Michigan doing a NC rematch and it didn’t work there now and shouldn’t work here either. Let the BCS work itself out. By doing so it is going to give us some funky games we don’t want. You should do more whining about the BCS system rather than dreaming up a rematch of the SEC CG. The system isn’t set up for two from the same conference nor is it set up for rematches from late in the season. I don’t believe it is set up for rematches at all. If FL or Bama lose in the SECCG them they are out. As complicated as they have made the BCS, this equation is pretty simple.

DC Dawg

October 19th, 2009
12:45 pm

All the GT fans writing new material for NBC sitcoms, Nice, what a bunch of DumbA$$ morons . Nice to talk smack when your team is up. Be a fan for more than 2 years ok?

Stinger, you have waited a long time to shoot you mouth off huh? Your a pretty good typist on your WM greeter breaks. Keep up the good work ZERO.

iptay

October 19th, 2009
12:47 pm

Clemson can beat the unpredictable Canes.

yellowjacket82

October 19th, 2009
12:47 pm

I love to hear all of these Dawg fans talking about UF’s luck against the Hogs. UGA has been pretty lucky this year. The Dawgs could easily be 0-7.

Dale

October 19th, 2009
12:48 pm

Conspiracy’s posts:

11:31am “Why don’t you conspiracy freaks do something for me? Look at the video of ALL SEC games this year and figure out how many bad calls there were, who the team was that was hurt by the bad call, and look at the totals by team.”

12:11 “I haven’t noticed that you morons have gotten back to me with that list of bad calls in all games.”

12:28 “Yep. These Dawg fans on here are real intelligent folks alright.”

That is, without a doubt, the most bizarre sequence of posts I have ever read. It’s tantamount to a lunatic asking NASA to prove UFOs don’t exist. Prove your own point, lunatic.

ARdawg

October 19th, 2009
12:50 pm

Tony, also how can you write this BS column and no mention of the officiating that is apparently taking over college football (the game YOU love). It is really a sad state of affairs when we see what the officials are doing. It bit us Dawg fans on the azz against LSU and after seeing them literally hand the Florida Gators a game last Saturday. Arkansas beat Florida only to have to lose to officiating. Do these things not bother you?

Dale

October 19th, 2009
12:51 pm

Yellowjacket82, you are exactly right. This is a point repeatedly put forth by the Georgia faithful.

Dale

October 19th, 2009
12:53 pm

But not 0-7, could be 2-5.

DC Dawg

October 19th, 2009
12:54 pm

good job Dale, you fit right in with stinger and little saint simon peepee

jumbeauxtiger

October 19th, 2009
12:57 pm

I agree with others that the general public would probably not want to see a national title game with the Tide and Gators. As a fan I wouldn’t either. But on the other hand it would be interesting the controversy that would occur if an 11-1 SC and a 12-0 Iowa were left out. It would serve the Big 10 and PAC 10 right in my opinion as they have been adamant against having any type of playoff, even at the least a Plus One model which would only slightly change the current system.

As we have found out in recent years of the BCS, there is alot of football left and anything can happen. Heck even LSU is in the mix and would likely vault into the title game by running the table(which is not going to happen).

Georgia Tech does need for Miami to lose but again there is nearly half a season left.

A week off will do the Dawgs some good and comes at a great time. I think the pressure will really be on the Gators in this game as they have so much to lose while UGa doesn’t. This game is no gimme like many thought a few weeks ago.

I just don’t know if Bama is really better than last year. They were outstanding in 2008 and are right now as well. Ingram is a great runner and has really come in to his own. It will be interesting to see if the Vols can slow him down.

Noone blows out everyone. All highly ranked teams struggle from time to time. This is just another example of “any given Saturday”. A tight end, Hernandez, has become the go to guy it appears. He’s a great player but I think the Gators really miss Harvin and Murphy.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

Golden Dawg 84

October 19th, 2009
12:57 pm

I’m usually a big fan of the off week before UF. Back in the day (when we would actually win the game regularly-yes I’m getting old), we ALWAYS had the off week while they played Auburn. That said, I don’t think it will matter much this year.

Our coaches had the entire summer to prepare for OK St and that was an absolutely pathetic display. They did script the first drive extremely well, but as often happens with this group, they apparently decided to ignore what was working.

Sorry, but a decent win against Vandy does not restore the credibility that was destroyed in Knoxville. It damn sure doesn’t mean that we will suddenly be a challenge for UF.

Johnny Test

October 19th, 2009
12:58 pm

I am a big SEC fan but I do not want to see a rematch of the SEC Championship game. It ain’t gonna happen. Arkansas has definately improved. The Gators had an off day but they still won. That’s the difference in them… they win even when they don’t play as well as they can. Bama is a lot better this year and will take care of them in the SEC CG.
As far as the Dawgs and Fla…. strange things have happened in this match up but it is highly unlikely the Dawgs win this one. At this point I’m just hoping they keep it respectable. If by some miracle they do win I think it’ll give them some additonal confidence for the Tech game but.. by the way, I don’t think UGA can beat them at this point but….
Beating Tech this year would be sweet. Spoil their whole season. Really it would. Oh they would say it didn’t but believe me tech fans don’t care if they lose every game as long as they beat UGA. At Tech all other accomplishments are subordinate to beating UGA.

Dawg Max

October 19th, 2009
1:00 pm

The lucky florida gators will not get all those miracle calls against the Dawgs in 2 weeks—Florida’s going down to UGA—you can bet the house! Georgia has an off week, and florida’s banged up already, and it will be worse after they play Miss State! A history lesson florida fans:

1997 and 2007—the Dawgs had bye weeks and beat florida both times!!!! Georgia 33 Florida 24! Let the good times roll–like the old days!!!

Gdawg

October 19th, 2009
1:02 pm

UGA could easily be 0-7?? Sort of like GT (or anybody else) is lucky not to be 0-7? What a stupid post.

Ed

October 19th, 2009
1:04 pm

That would be a big mistake. First, I would put a 12-0 Iowa team in the BCS game over a 12-1 SEC team that just lost to the No. 1 or 2 team in the country. They had their chance at all the marbles and lost – not only a chance for the MNT, but their conference crown as well. Why should they get another shot?

Also, after watching SEC football this year, I’m not sure the conference is entitled to the benefit of the doubt. Alabama has been underwhelming offensively in their recent games, Florida barely survived a mediocre Arkansas team, Georgia got whipped by Okie State, Tennessee got beat at home against UCLA – is the SEC really that good?

Also, a rematch wouldn’t be fair to the 13-0 SEC Champion. Say Alabama beats Florida for the conference title…are you going to tell them that their efforts meant nothing and now they have to gear up and do it all over again? What happened to the debate from ‘07, where it was said that non-conference champs (Georgia and Kansas that year) should be ineligible for the national title?

An Alabama-Florida rematch would be a bad idea. An Alabama-Iowa or Florida-Iowa title game would be much more interesting.

Erk

October 19th, 2009
1:07 pm

Tony, the same SEC officiating crew has now changed the outcome of the Ga/LSU and the Fla/Ark game with terrible calls. Why were they allowed to continue after the Ga/LSU game? Sadly, they will probably be given the opportunity to blow future games this year after the horrendous call against Arkansas late in the game. No repercussions it seems.