Will SEC championship also be the national championship?

 

Here’s a simple question for you to ponder this morning: Florida and Alabama are ranked 1-2 in the Associated Press media poll. Based on what you have seen thus far, if Florida and Alabama both run the table, will the SEC championship game ALSO be the national championship game as well?

 

We know that technically it won’t be because the SEC champ will have to play somebody in Pasadena in January to get the crystal football. But if Florida and Alabama are both 12-0 on Dec. 5, will that decide the national championship in your mind?

 

Here is the final question: Knowing the history of the SEC, it is crazy to even suggest that both of these teams can run the table between now and then? Here are the schedules. You decide:

FLORIDA

Oct. 17– vs. Arkansas. Hogs have a great offense with Ryan Mallett.

Oct.  24—at Miss. State. Urban Meyer and Tebow vs. Dan Mullen, their old OC

Oct. 31—vs. Georgia in Jacksonville. Don’t see much of a threat from Dawgs.

Nov. 7—vs. Vanderbilt. Vandy is really struggling now

Nov. 14—at South Carolina.  Gamecocks have a very good defense. They could make it interesting.

Nov. 21—FIU. Please.

Nov. 28—Florida State. This will be Tebow’s last home game. It could also be Bobby Bowden’s last game as the Florida State head coach.

 

ALABAMA

Oct. 17—South Carolina. Bama defense should bottle up South Carolina offense.

Oct. 24—Tennessee. Vols aren’t as good as they looked against Georgia.

Nov. 7—LSU. Tigers have no offensive identity.

Nov. 14—at Miss. State. Undermanned in Dan Mullen’s first year.

Nov. 21—Chattanooga. Tuneup for Auburn.

Nov. 27 (Friday)—at Auburn. It’s at Jordan-Hare, so it could be interesting.

 

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200 comments Add your comment

TrueCrimson

October 13th, 2009
7:11 am

In a word… yes.

George G.

October 13th, 2009
7:18 am

No…there is too much time between the SECCG and the BCSCG. With over a month to prepare, a good coach (take Pete Carroll for example) will have any potential opponent very prepare, and it a position to win.

Ron Mexico

October 13th, 2009
7:28 am

The Dawgs stay within 6 touchdowns of the irvin myers go gaiters. BOOK IT.

TrueCrimson

October 13th, 2009
7:32 am

Any football team can win any game on any given day. That said, recent college football history will render the BCS Championship game little more than an afterthought if Florida and Alabama meet in the Georgia Dome with perfect regular season records. For most of college football history, the post-season games were considered nothing more than exhibition games. The Championship was determined by the results of regular season play.

That said, there is still a lot of football to be played in the regular season, and as I said, any team can win any single game on any given day.

Dadgummit

October 13th, 2009
7:40 am

When are we going to discuss last Saturday’s games?

I’m sure the Jacket fans are eager to opine regarding their monumental victory over the Mighty Seminoles on their home turf. After all, this is the first time they’ve encountered a Florida State team that would allow such a disgrace to occur.

Top Dawg

October 13th, 2009
7:42 am

Tony – I love your columns, but I do not understand why you are avoiding the UGA football situation.

Dawggone-It

October 13th, 2009
7:48 am

Texas, Va Tech, and Southern Cal all go down this week…Does that mean that Bama and Fla could play twice provided they stay undefeated?

Gator Nation

October 13th, 2009
7:54 am

IF……They are both undefeated going into the SEC title game then it will be gigantic game (much like last years). But:

1) There is lots of football to be played between now and then. Both teams could lose. The fact that they both have great defenses does make this less likely.

2) Whomever the winner plays in the national championship game will be a very good team that will not just lay down for SEC champ to walk all over.

So….No. It will be just for the SEC title. Which is more valid than the national championship, because it is actually won on the field.

SEC Fan

October 13th, 2009
7:54 am

It’s a good thing for Florida that they started the season at Number 1. If they were to be judged by their body of work this year, then Boise State’s perfect record would place them ahead of Florida in the polls based on each team’s strength of schedule.

Florida’s only quality win this year is against LSU. LSU’s performance against Mississippi State and Georgia, combined with the results of the previous season, left many wondering why they were even in the Top Ten. Georgia’s subsequent performance on Rocky Top only led to more head scratching.

The Gators have an impressive defense. I haven’t yet seen anything to indicate that they have a championship caliber offense. MSU hung 30 on the LSU defense.

Yes… MSU!

crow tastes good

October 13th, 2009
7:58 am

Tony, it would be a great game if 2 undefeated teams meet for the SEC championship. However, just like the Ohio State – Michigan game of undefeated teams from a few years back, it won’t determine the national champion. That comes from the BCS title game as you know (and as Ohio State learned the hard way). So you can consider the SEC championship the title game, but the rest of the planet will consider the winner of the BCS championship game the winner. If the SEC champion loses that game, it will enable you to write a lot of blogs to your fawning SEC followers, but it wouldn’t change the result. That said, if i were a betting man (and I am) i would put my money on the Gators to run the table!

Savadawg

October 13th, 2009
7:59 am

If there were a true NCAA Div 1 NC system rather than the farce we now have then the we would see FL vs Bama twice. Once for the SEC and again for the NC.

DaMan

October 13th, 2009
8:02 am

Bama is playing the most solid football in the country on both sides of the ball. I don’t see anyone beating them.

rhynster

October 13th, 2009
8:04 am

You appear to suggest South Carolina and Mississippi State as challenging games against Florida, but you outright dismiss them against Alabama.

Homer

October 13th, 2009
8:08 am

I am the biggest SEC homer around.

reebok

October 13th, 2009
8:08 am

Alabama has a tougher road than Florida. I figure they will lose once, but still get to the SEC championship. Florida will probably run the table.

Kirby Smart

October 13th, 2009
8:09 am

If momma calls, I ain’t answering !!!!!!!

RTR

SEC Fan

October 13th, 2009
8:12 am

It’s bad enough that the Auburn vs. Alabama game is no longer played in the Iron Bowl. Now they don’t even play on Saturday?

What’s the world coming to?

Will the MSU vs. Ole Miss game now be known as the Egg Beater® Bowl?

Will Jacksonville soon be relegated to hosting The World’s Largest Outdoor Soft Drink Party?

NCDawg

October 13th, 2009
8:15 am

I personally think people are jumping off the GA bandwagon too quickly this year and are causing unnecessary distractions that will hurt our chances of salvaging this season and damage recruiting, which will have very dark long term implications. I think because people don’t have to put their real name on these blogs that they can just yell Fire Willy without actually having a clue how to set up a good defense themselves. Shoot, they looked no worse against UT this year than when they were shellacked 35-14 in 2007, and that was with Stafford and Knowshon.

I will admit that Georgia did not look good against UT, but I feel like this is because too many people were focused on an excessive celebration call when they needed to be focused on a tough game up in Knoxville. Now, we need to get behind this team and get’em ready for a hungry Vanderbilt that is just dying to prove they are not the worst team in the SEC East. This week is the tipping point for the rest of the season. Then in two weeks, mark my words, GA will give Florida every ounce of a fight it can handle! Go DAWGS!

Eric

October 13th, 2009
8:20 am

If F and A are both undefeated, ranked 1 and 2, meet in the SEC Championship and play a very close game, it’s conceiveable that the voters may just keep them ranked 1 and 2 and they’ll meet again in Pasadena. It wouldn’t surprise be even a little bit. Here’s hoping they both get knocked off before that scenario has a chance to play out.

JB

October 13th, 2009
8:24 am

I promise you, if the Dawgs had started #1, played Florida’s schedule exactly as they have, Dawgs would be 3rd or 4th…….Meyer can thank Tebow. He is good. He is proven. But last Saturday, the live reports all day from Baton Rouge about him was something I could not believe. Even the Obama handlers were mad. They were touted as world beaters, and they are just a pretty good football team. I assume they get “well” against my Dawgs, but that proves nothing really.Our pedigree has turned to mixed breed. not a big deal, at he moment.

Saint Crompton

October 13th, 2009
8:24 am

((((( 45 19 ))))) hahahahahahahaha

Crompton for Heisman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedKneckerson

October 13th, 2009
8:24 am

WHAT? No article from Tony about the arse whopping in Knoxville?Kinda skimmed right over that one didn’t he?

meee

October 13th, 2009
8:25 am

George P. You are totally correct. The entire bowl system is a joke not even bc we need a playoff but bc there is so much time between the last game and the bowl games that the teams arent the same functioning teams they were in the season.

toga

October 13th, 2009
8:26 am

Tony – What if Alabama loses to Florida 10-9 in a epic SEC showdown. Florida goes on and gets beat badly in Pasadena and Alabama smashes Texas in a BCS bowl. Could Alabama win the NC?

Starring Peter Graves as Capt. Over

October 13th, 2009
8:27 am

Ron Mexico: Way to go out on a limb.

SEC Fan

October 13th, 2009
8:28 am

NCDawg,

I admire your loyalty, but living in NC seems to have destroyed your football perspective. Vols fans would LOVE to have the 2007 squad over the team that they’re fielding this year.

Georgia might be a trap game for Vandy, since they face South Carolina the following week.

Florida will be amped up for Georgia — it’s their marquee game this season.

Al

October 13th, 2009
8:29 am

It took a missed extra point from Fla from tying Ole miss and going to Ot and likely winning. So it nearly happened last year. The question is who will play the winner.

KR

October 13th, 2009
8:30 am

It really all depends on what everyone else in the nation looks like at that point. There’s a lot of football to be played between now and then…

Alabama looks incredibly strong, but I haven’t yet seen them play what looked like a strong team. Even so, I’d bet they make it to the SEC Championship Game undefeated. And I’m an Auburn guy.

Florida has looked less strong to me. I could see one of their remaining opponents rising up to beat them, although the odds aren’t very good.

I have to admit: if we see undefeated Alabama take on undefeated Florida in the SEC Championship Game, I really won’t have much interest in the BCS Championship Game. It would most likely be a letdown.

Eric

October 13th, 2009
8:33 am

Regarding what we say on this blog, I’m pretty sure there are no SEC coaches or players reading any of it. So our comments are pretty much irrelevant to everyone except us.

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 13th, 2009
8:35 am

Well we know you’re going to do everything in your power and pen to make that happen Tony.

Head in the sand...

October 13th, 2009
8:38 am

Curious that the two obvious stories of the state of the UGA program and Bowden’s train wreck get no mention from Mr. CFB. Bias maybe? After the celebration penalty we got a quick post and tons of investigative journalism with the SEC officials. Yesterdays topic was fine and timely but today we get a mid-April type topic.

Interesting that dog fans are getting better coverage about the current state from Mark Bradley of all people instead of one of their own.

Dink

October 13th, 2009
8:38 am

IMHO

Javier Arenas and Jordan Shipley are the two most under-rated players in the country.

Got 12?

October 13th, 2009
8:39 am

Eric,

Just like other college students, football players do read blogs and other sports articles. Coaches do too but they won’t admit it. Hopefully, they are not affected by the stuff we say.

BTW, how does it feel to come back to Earth?

TrueCrimson

October 13th, 2009
8:40 am

KR,

Arkansas looked like a pretty “strong team” last Saturday.

RTR!!!

JB

October 13th, 2009
8:40 am

NC DAWG………………….I hear you………………but, we are not good at any phase of the game, and for the first time, I felt they “laid’ down last week. We were over matched on the Field and coaching, by a program who supposedly in a flux of rebuilding. Tennessee was inspired, well coached, prepared for our schemes and just wanted it more. We ALL love our dawgs. IT is just not the Tennessee game, it been coming from last year. You look at this team as a business you frequent and over time you see a trend of that business slipping. It’s not one bad game. there is a problem. We won 10 games last year, but we still struggled and could of lost against some VERY AVERAGE TEAMS. I’m not happy. We have the most fertile talent state in the SE, more money than all but say Florida and fan support, facilities, we have it all……..We have a management problem. We can’t dance around it.

Dadgumit = Cry me a river

October 13th, 2009
8:42 am

Way to be a sore loser Dadgumit. Your team sucks, get over it. Oh, and have a nice day

Hokie in waiting

October 13th, 2009
8:45 am

Bama vs VT for the MNC, mark it down. Tech goes to the Gator Bowl after we spank em this weekend.

Eric

October 13th, 2009
8:46 am

Maybe they do, but it seems like a colossal waste of time to me. You’d think they’d have plenty of important things to keep them busy.

Dadgumit = Cry me a river

October 13th, 2009
8:47 am

Enter your comments here

JB

October 13th, 2009
8:48 am

Glad to see most of that Florida Defense leave and Tebow, but watch Florida respond. There are expectations……………………..and there are excuses……………………………………………….

UGA is the BEST

October 13th, 2009
8:49 am

The dawgs are still going to beat the socks off those nerds on North Avenue! i don’t care that we had a bad game against Tenn, we will expose that mickey mouse 500 yrd rushing offense for what it is. I mean who can’t beat FSU this year?

GOOOOOOO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bark bark bark bark

N SABAN

October 13th, 2009
8:50 am

I WILL, dye my hair again before the SEC Championship Game. I know i should have gray at this age coaching Div 1 football, But I love this “chestnut’ brown dye”.

Dave R

October 13th, 2009
8:53 am

BCS #2 seems to win the BCS title game about as often as BCS #1, even when #1 is a huge favorite going in, so I’d say regarding the BS national championship game, err, the BCS national championship game as a fait acompli seems like a bad idea.

SecIsFootball

October 13th, 2009
8:53 am

KR……you say…”Alabama looks incredibly strong, but I haven’t yet seen them play what looked like a strong team.” ??????

#4 ranked Virginia Tech says hello. And, if Arkansas is not a good team, what does that say about AU after this past weekend?

Got 12?

October 13th, 2009
8:54 am

Keep doing whatever you’re doing (recruiting, coaching, and dying your hair), Coach!

RTR!

Got 12?

October 13th, 2009
8:56 am

…and we just beat Ole Miss.

Geez, you just can’t please some folks.

Secondguesser

October 13th, 2009
8:56 am

That’s right. Everybody jump on that bama bandwagon. This is just about the time last year that UF took off as an offensive juggernaut. Granted they’ve lost Harvin and Murphy which are two big losses. As I remember everybody was on that tide high last year as well. I think they were ranked number one when gators met them last year, weren’t they? ………………..Hey JB, you guys tried that “startin out number 1″ last year didn’t you? Didn’t work to well for ya did it?

gatorrashad

October 13th, 2009
9:01 am

Bama/Florida II Saban v. Meyer it should make for another great match up and winner would be favorite to take the crystal….I see Florida winning close tho…..24-17

KR

October 13th, 2009
9:01 am

True Crimson: Actually, I’d say Auburn looked pretty weak last week. Different view, same outcome.

SEC is Football: when VT played Bama, they did not look all that strong. They have improved over the last 5 games.

Ba'ii

October 13th, 2009
9:02 am

Were we not hearing the same thing about Michigan and Ohio State in 2006? Florida and Alabama may be the best two teams in the country, but the gap between them and USC, Virginia Tech, and Texas is not so great as to assume that they’ll easily get win number 14.