Will SEC championship also be the national championship?

 

Here’s a simple question for you to ponder this morning: Florida and Alabama are ranked 1-2 in the Associated Press media poll. Based on what you have seen thus far, if Florida and Alabama both run the table, will the SEC championship game ALSO be the national championship game as well?

 

We know that technically it won’t be because the SEC champ will have to play somebody in Pasadena in January to get the crystal football. But if Florida and Alabama are both 12-0 on Dec. 5, will that decide the national championship in your mind?

 

Here is the final question: Knowing the history of the SEC, it is crazy to even suggest that both of these teams can run the table between now and then? Here are the schedules. You decide:

FLORIDA

Oct. 17– vs. Arkansas. Hogs have a great offense with Ryan Mallett.

Oct.  24—at Miss. State. Urban Meyer and Tebow vs. Dan Mullen, their old OC

Oct. 31—vs. Georgia in Jacksonville. Don’t see much of a threat from Dawgs.

Nov. 7—vs. Vanderbilt. Vandy is really struggling now

Nov. 14—at South Carolina.  Gamecocks have a very good defense. They could make it interesting.

Nov. 21—FIU. Please.

Nov. 28—Florida State. This will be Tebow’s last home game. It could also be Bobby Bowden’s last game as the Florida State head coach.

 

ALABAMA

Oct. 17—South Carolina. Bama defense should bottle up South Carolina offense.

Oct. 24—Tennessee. Vols aren’t as good as they looked against Georgia.

Nov. 7—LSU. Tigers have no offensive identity.

Nov. 14—at Miss. State. Undermanned in Dan Mullen’s first year.

Nov. 21—Chattanooga. Tuneup for Auburn.

Nov. 27 (Friday)—at Auburn. It’s at Jordan-Hare, so it could be interesting.

 

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stoopid

October 13th, 2009
10:58 am

I just had a scenario i was curiuous about, if anyone could help me out…
First of all, lemme start by saying we looked god awful saturday and in no way do i think this would ever happen but just enlighten me…
So we lost to UT, what if from here, we beat UF and run the table, UT loses to another east team and we have the win over the gators.. where does that put us?? Do we sneak into the championship or what?? I realize this is crazy talk but im just going over things in my head! Anyone care to help me sort it out?

jumbeauxtiger

October 13th, 2009
10:58 am

Got 12?,

I also believe that the USC game this weekend is a trap game and the reasons you listed I completely agree with. Saban has a history of losing an unexpected game just as every other coach has. I’m not taking a pot shot at Nick as I like the guy and think he’s a great coach. However it’s impossible to get these guys up every week.

Spurrier will not let his team be intimidated by playing in a hostile environment. He will certainly use the fact that the game is homecoming as a motivator and he has come very close to pulling off big wins on the road (ie UGa this season and in Gainesville in 2006).

Of any games the Tide has left I think this one is the most dangerous.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

G8R GRAD

October 13th, 2009
10:58 am

Got 12?:

I had tyhe same impression saturday night:
Dan Mullen’s play calling would’ve been woth two more touchdowns.
And I agree with Atlanta Gator in that the Florida offense has yet to impress.
Last year’s SECCG was also a NC game IMO.
The Oklahoma game was anticlimactic in comparison.
Right now, I think Alabama is playing the best football on both sides of the ball.
If a December rematch is in the offing and if UF doesn’t mount an offensive attack that is considerably more effective than any I’ve seen yet, I fear the Tide will play in Pasadena.
Either way, the BCSNCG will be yet another clinic in SEC football.

jumbeauxtiger

October 13th, 2009
11:02 am

I meant an “unexpected loss”

GO BIG ORANGE

October 13th, 2009
11:07 am

Cut Tony some slack by the way. I suspect he is waiting for the dust to settle before commenting on GA. Maybe this is an issue that giving up a few days to collect one’s thoughts is appropriate. I doubt he can let the biggest “Dawgs” story of the year go by without commenting.

Cry babby

October 13th, 2009
11:08 am

Cry babby cry.

McDawg

October 13th, 2009
11:09 am

not quite sold on UF yet-want to see their Offense against south Carolina-right now my money is on Bama

#1 BAMA FAN

October 13th, 2009
11:12 am

There is one thing I do know…the Gators will not beat Bama running dive plays over & over with a 170 lb running back. RTR

Joe Bob Thibodaux

October 13th, 2009
11:13 am

Tony, your assessment of the LSU offense rings true. I believe the Auburn LSU game will tell the tale for both teams.

If Alabama and Florida go undefeated until the SEC championship, then, depending on how the game plays outo–they could be ranked 1 and 2. I doubt it though. As much as we appreciate our conference, the nation at large is not going to support that possibility. After the bowl, however, they could end up 1 and 2.

There is still a lot of football this regular season, and I believe Bama, not Florida, is the team most likely to be defeated before the SEC championship. Were LSU to find an offensive sparkplug, all bets would be off–but I ain’t holdin my breath.

Go Tigers, whip up on Auburn. then, lets see!

Got 12?

October 13th, 2009
11:15 am

Yes, cut Tony some slack. He’s a journalist but he’s also human. As a UGA grad, he’s probably just a disappointed and upset as the rest of the Bulldog nation. Unlike most of the Bulldog nation, the abilitity to perform his job is tied to favorable relationships with athletics departments.

I’m sure we’ll see an article about UGA tomorrow.

elcubismo

October 13th, 2009
11:24 am

Got 12, a little humility would be nice. You sound like a serious doofus suggesting there are 118 wannabes. Pete Carrol is almost undefeated in big time games, including against the SEC. Texas aint bad, and VaTech has improved big time–and again, come far closer than the all-powerful SEC at disrupting your team.

We’ve all been saying LSU is overrated, and Florida only put up 13. In my mind, that suggests Florida has a lot of room for improvement.

Bama is a very, very solid team right now, no doubt. But bottom line, when you speak in such strong terms, you look like a blowhard the second one result goes a way you did not expect.

Call it Like It Is

October 13th, 2009
11:26 am

Hey stoopid

Keep dreaming your team ain’t that good.

Gators steamroll through their schedule and will meet Bama again for another classic SEC.

Enough Said!

stoopid

October 13th, 2009
11:31 am

umm yeah… thats why i said i know this will never happen. read before being an a$$hole.

12 & 21

October 13th, 2009
11:41 am

HEY ERIC, YEAH I’M CALLING YOU OUT YOU PUNK@$$.
WDE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ARK LIT YOU UP FOR 44 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I JUST LOVE TO SEE A BARNDWELLER SO OBVIOUSLY AWARE AND JEALOUS OF THOSE THAT ARE BETTER THAN THEM.

36-0 WAS JUST THE BEGINNING, IT IS GOING TO GET COMICAL, SEE YA AT THE FEED AND SEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 13th, 2009
11:47 am

The BCS title game should obviously be Georgia Tech, because they’re awesome every year, and William and Mary, since they played their ACC opponents so well, and as everyone knows, the ACC is the bestest conference in the land. Just ask my good buddy m.

TommyP

October 13th, 2009
11:48 am

I wonder how many resumes Richt has received so far for the def.coordinator job?

Jon

October 13th, 2009
11:51 am

Boy you can tell Barmhart is a Jawga grad–he won’t mention the Dawgs. When he had to mention Jawga in his Fla–Ala blog he sidestepped saying anything relevant about his Pup-Py Dawgs.Mark Schlabach is a Jawga grad too–but he tells it like it is about Jawga. Tough lineup ahead with Tenn Tech & Vandy on the schedule—LOL.

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 13th, 2009
11:54 am

Haha, the funny thing is Mr. SEC Football blocks any post that quotes his bias and crybaby article he posted after losing to LSU. Sad actually.

If we had a Mr. College Football somewhere in this Newspaper, maybe they would notice there’s a really big local game going on Sat. night.

Oh well, I can dream.

Mark

October 13th, 2009
11:55 am

Kirby Smart isn’t leaving Alabama for a sinking ship. He has a chance to win NC’s with Saban. Kirby eventually leaves Bama for a HC position. But no chance he goes to a program that’s sinking faster than the Titanic. That would be a career mistake. Coaches todat are more interested in their career than bleeding for some alums.

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 13th, 2009
11:56 am

I see my imposter @ 11:47 is back.

Shananeeeeee Fananeeeeeeeeee

October 13th, 2009
11:56 am

Probably. This will be the National Title Game then the winner goes and plays a weaker team just like the last several years. Uhhhhh North FLA Falcon – Florida just went on the road dummy in front of a record crowd and shut LSU down to 3 points. Okay it was a conference game, so what. They left the state to play a couple of National Title Games over the years and when they played Ohio State they killed them. They were winning two National Titles in the last three years while your teams were watching at home. On another note Florida will not be #1 next year but they will be up there and either them or Tennessee is going to win the east. Florida is a top program, Brantley is the man and there are plenty of strong players sitting on the sidelines this year as well as coming to Gainesville. Reality? 2 National Titles in the last 3 years and a great shot to win it this year, any team would take an off year after that dynasty, but Florida will be right there fighting for the SEC title, you can bet on it. Go Gators, Tebow and Spikes will lead us to victory at the Georgia Dome again just like last year.

Albert the Alligator

October 13th, 2009
11:58 am

How bout’ that Florida D. 5 Games = 2 Touchdowns Allowed. 32 Total Points Surrendered.

m

October 13th, 2009
12:00 pm

The sec is the most overrated, overhyped conference in history.

david corr

October 13th, 2009
12:13 pm

Dawgs beat Gators win SEC East and whip Bama in SEC title game then whip Texas or VT in National title game. It ain’t over till it’s over. BTW ACDC plays in Jacksonville on October 30th the night before we whip the Gators! For those about to rock we salute you!

RxDawg

October 13th, 2009
12:14 pm

Will SEC championship also be the national championship?

It always is. The BCS bowls are just runner ups.

Joe Bob Thibodaux

October 13th, 2009
12:14 pm

m: If you look at the bowl season last year, you might get a clue. Good luck with your conference you WAC.

what about it

October 13th, 2009
12:24 pm

What if Alabama wins the SECCG by 2 points in 4 overtimes. Do you think the BCS would go for a rematch? I guess not since the rule for UGA a couple of years ago was if you don’t win your conference championship you can’t play in the title game.

Gator Rob

October 13th, 2009
12:25 pm

You local idiots kill me. You’re not happy with Tony unless he’s blowing UGA and/or GT. He covers college football in the largest market in the southeast, that’s more than two teams. If you want your exclusive sugar-coated BS go to your athletic dept’s official website or get a rivals membership.

DawginLex

October 13th, 2009
12:30 pm

I predicted before the season started that GT would maul VT at home on a Thursday night. Now if it happens, GT is in the conversation to play the winner of Bama/Florida.

IF:

Texas loses to Oklahoma

Would a one loss USC or a one loss Ohio State jump GT? Since Taylor can throw and GT can’t stop the pass, GT winning might be more of a stretch but, it could be a shootout which favors GT.

I’m just sayin’

Joe Bob Thibodaux

October 13th, 2009
12:35 pm

what about it:

yes, provided the score then is 2 to nothin.

Paul The Vol

October 13th, 2009
12:53 pm

As much as I hate to agree with a Gator, I have to agree with Gator Rob. Tony has a bigger constituency than just UGA and GT. In fact, when he writes about UGA the Tech fans howl that he is an SEC homer. When he doesn’t write about UGA after a loss the Tech fans howl that he is ignoring the UGA story. It’s no wonder so many writers hold their audiences in contempt.

I’m sure he’ll get around to writing about the current state of affairs at Georgia but he probably wants to do his homework and get some perspective from other sources rather than jumping to conclusions.

they played who?

October 13th, 2009
12:53 pm

The sec is weak as water the only two teams worth watching are Fla. and Bama…and they play no one. ..I’m happy to see the public finally coming to and recognizing that fact . not saying their not great teams…they just don’t play any one with winning records.

they played who?

October 13th, 2009
12:57 pm

wow I forgot to answer the question…….NO

2Cents

October 13th, 2009
1:01 pm

Besides Bama and UF, who in the SEC is any good? LSU? Nobody in the country thought they were playing like a top 5 team, even though they were ranked #4. Arky, TN, UGA, Vandy, Old Miss, SC – any of them a top 10 team? I know SEC fans like the feel of that smoke going up their skirts, but really… FL and AL are great teams and deserve the attention they’re getting. The rest of the SEC needs to sit down and ponder on how they might field a real team sometime in the near future.

Aloha Gator

October 13th, 2009
1:03 pm

G8R GRAD

October 13th, 2009
1:06 pm

they played who[m]?:
“The sec is weak as water the only two teams worth watching are Fla. and Bama…and they play no one. [..]I’m happy to see the public finally coming to and recognizing that fact.”

Would that explain why UF and UA are ranked #1 and #2 espectively?

G8R GRAD

October 13th, 2009
1:08 pm

sorry – [r]espectively

Got 12?

October 13th, 2009
1:10 pm

Let’s settle this once and for all (for now) by doing what college basketball does–start the season with a conference v. conference challenge series. Anyone who says the SEC doesn’t win is simply delusional.

According to pre-season hype:

Bama (SEC #2) v. Va Tech (ACC #1)
Florida (SEC #1) v. FSU (ACC #2)
Georgia (SEC #5) v. GT (ACC #3)

I’m sure there are some other games between evenly matched schools. Someone come up with a few more. (And I don’t mean games like GT (ACC #3) v. Miss St (SEC #12).)

OZZFEST

October 13th, 2009
1:14 pm

That has proved true just about every year…except 2002….DAMMIT!

BG

October 13th, 2009
1:16 pm

Texas will win the national championship this year.

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Willie

October 13th, 2009
1:20 pm

I wonder if a CMR can get the dawgs ready for Vandy. Maybe he should call in sick that day.

Willie

October 13th, 2009
1:23 pm

Seriously, no way! USC, OH St, OK, and the normally top rated five will not stand for it. Where does all the votes come from anyway? They will just vote them down. It is the BCS way!

Willie

October 13th, 2009
1:26 pm

I mean how can you compare the SEC championship game where 1 & 2 play eachother over the prestigious Rose bowl(Inconsequential bowl where a 10 & 1 will play a 6 & 5 team)! I mean just who do you think you are?

robodawg

October 13th, 2009
1:26 pm

Both could definitely go undefeated, and the SEC championship would be huge. But there’s a fair chance that Texas or even USC or Va Tech (who played Bama fairly well to start the season) could give the winner a run for their money in the BCS championship.

archangeladidas

October 13th, 2009
1:32 pm

To North Fla Falcon….you know whats embrassing? losing to a team that doesn’t play “ANYBODY”. what happen last year in the dome? GATORS by 10! you better hope bama show up to play this year. and where has bama been the past 10 years anyway? so you have some recent success and you want to talk big huh. the GATORS are going to take “YOUR” national title again this year also. its about time your program came back to life. GO GATORS!!!

Chuck

October 13th, 2009
1:44 pm

As weak as some of the future opponents of Florida and Alabama seem, they still do not rise to the level of mediocrity of the teams left on the schedules of Texas and Southern Cal. And do not even bother to bring the Big 10 and ACC Champs into the argument. If Virginia Tech was smart, they would try to get into the SEC where they would have a schedule competitive enough to make an argument for the national championship, as opposed to the weak basketball-oriented teams they now play in the ACC. So, Tony, the answer is YES. The SEC Championship game is the real national championship game.

McDonoughGator

October 13th, 2009
1:47 pm

To all of the level-headed posters on this blog, the one key ingredient we are forget to mention, is injuries. Football, is a very very physical game. I don’t make predictions for two months down the road, but I will say this, Coach Saban, has done a fantastic job at Bama. If everything plays out, this SECCG game, could top last years game.

I agree with most everyone on the UF offense. I think this year is going to be more like 2006 and not 2008 for the Gators. Urban is a very conservative coach. The Vols did a great job of “shortening” the game. I think we decided to “buy” into the philosophy against the Vols.

With Tebow having not practiced, but two days last week, we shortened the game, and won in one of the most hostile environments in college football. We had the ball for over 36 minutes in the LSU game.

I look for the UF offense to stretch the field against the Hogs, but Urban know’s that he can rely on his defense.

I love all of the traditions that come with college football in the south. Hope you all have a great day!!

Jake

October 13th, 2009
1:57 pm

Seems UGA fans are like rats jumping off a sinking ship. Hang in there, every team has ups and downs. Mark is a good man and good coach.

Chuck

October 13th, 2009
1:58 pm

As weak as some of the teams left on the schedules of Florida and Alabama seem, they still do not rise to the level of mediocrity of remaining opponents of Texas and Southern Cal. And do not even bring the Big 10 and ACC champs into the argument. Their leagues are a joke. If Virginia Tech was smart, they would try to get into the SEC so they could have a schedule worthy of national championship hopes. So, Tony, the answer is yes, the SEC Championship game is the real national championship.