It’s time to eliminate the “excessive celebration” rule

 

I understand that I run the risk of being called a “homer” for bringing this up. This blog is based in Atlanta, Ga. The issue I am about to raise is one that negatively impacted the University of Georgia. I attended the University of Georgia. My daughter has two degrees from the University of Georgia.

 

I get all that. But you have to realize that I’m talking about the big picture here and not the winner and loser of one football game. I am raising an issue that I believe strikes at the credibility of a game that we all love.

 

I have been covering college football as a professional journalist for 32 years and, without being too dramatic here, there is a good chance that the excessive celebration call on Georgia’s A.J. Green last Saturday against LSU is the single worst officiating mistake I have seen in my three decades of covering the sport.

 

First of all, the penalty did not have to be called. I was in New York working for CBS on Saturday and because I had access to the technology, I was able to watch the play about a dozen times. Based on what I saw, there is simply nothing there that even sniffs at the word “excessive.” I’ve read the rule. I know what it says. A.J. Green couldn’t raise his arms in the air towards the crowd because too many teammates were hugging him. He looked in the direction of the crowd. He had just made one of the biggest plays of his young career. I think we can understand that a sophomore in college might just be a little excited at that particular moment.

 

After the fact the officials released a statement saying that Green had made a gesture to the crowd that brought attention to himself. If that happened then a press box full of trained observers and a crowd of over 90,000 all missed it. I asked Georgia coach Mark Richt on Sunday if he was aware of anything Green did, perhaps off-camera, that would have warranted the penalty. He said no but he also said that he had not asked Green directly about it. But if nobody saw it but the official on the play, how in the world can it be excessive?

And, for the purposes of this discussion, I’m not going to get into the other two excessive celebration calls other than to say this. The one on LSU’s Charles Scott, which came after he briefly raised his arms to the sky (exactly two seconds because I counted) after the winning touchdown, probably had to be called given the bad call on A.J. Green. And I’ll give the officials the benefit of the doubt on the Orson Charles call, although I thought Charles was trying to get the crowd fired up and not bringing attention to himself.

 

Here is the problem. It is clear that the officials are given very little, if no, discretion on this call. If a player does any gesture other than celebrating directly with his teammates, the officials feel compelled to call it. And if they don’t, they risk reprimand or even suspension.

 

I just feel the rule, which was created with the best of intentions, has morphed into something that is now hurting the game. It is called so inconsistently. Earlier this year a Florida player was flagged after a quarterback sack for simply rolling his hands like a traveling call in basketball. A little while later a Tennessee player sacked the quarterback and did several chest bumps. Nothing was called. In my opinion neither should have been called. The official on the play just tells the young man to cool it and get back to his teammates. No harm, no foul.

 

One of two things has to happen for the good of the game: My suggestion is to eliminate the rule entirely because it has become clear to me that it can’t be enforced on a consistent basis. Excessive celebration is too much in the eye of the beholder. Replace it with a taunting rule. Taunting is more clearly defined than excessive celebration.

 

Until then every supervisor of officials in the country needs to tell his guys: Let’s back off. We need to adjust the sensitivity meter on this thing. Let’s save this penalty for the most egregious violations. That isn’t hard. We know what they are.

 

 When Georgia stormed the field en masse in Jacksonville in 2007, now THAT’s excessive celebration. When a player running to the end zone takes off from the five-yard line and dives in with no defenders around, that’s excessive. When a player throat slashes with his thumb, that’s excessive.

 

When, after a great game like Georgia-LSU, Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson have to admit that the biggest play of the game was a penalty that (in my opinion) didn’t have to be called, then the rules, which are supposed to work to the good of the game, have instead worked to the detriment of the game.

 

Somebody made the argument to me yesterday and we have to put up with a bad excessive celebration call from time to time because the greater good of the game is well served by the rule. I don’t accept that. I think there is a way to keep sportsmanship in the game without totally eliminating the passion of the players, which is something that we all enjoy and, quite frankly, makes the college game much better than the pro game.

You don’t think the Georgia players aren’t going to be negatively impacted by this call for the rest of the season? You don’t think they will curb their enthusiasm because they fear the next flag might be on them? Of course they will. And that’s not right.

It’s time to put some common sense back into the excessive celebration rule.  It if we can’t do that, then it needs to be eliminated.

 

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randyarnold

October 5th, 2009
2:27 pm

It was a horrendous call, no doubt about it. And officials should let the players play the game. You never see basketball officials make a call when the game is in doubt because they want the contest to be decided by the participants, not somebody with a whistle.
With that being said, ALL players should be reminded of what (I believe) Barry Sanders use to say when he asked why he didn’t have a demonstrative celebration after scoring: “Act like you’ve been there before.”

Tide Rising

October 5th, 2009
2:27 pm

Jumbeaux tiger,

Congragulations,

It would seem I definitely underestimated LSU and that the mad hatter has a little something up his sleeve. Bad call aside I think your guys put up a dominant performance and looked impressive, especially defensively. Patrick Peterson simply shut down AJ Green whenever he was on him. I wondered why he wasn’t on AJ on that td pass.

Anyway, it looks like the west not only is in a 3 team race but with the quick rise back of Auburn this looks to be a helluva 4 way race in the west. Could be one of those years where the division champ has 2 losses. Still got a lotta great football left. Roll Tide.

Bob B.

October 5th, 2009
2:29 pm

I am no UGA fan either, but I agree that the penalty was uncalled for. Oh, yeah, I am 100% agree with several posters here talking about egoistic Tebow. I am actually sick and tired of hearing about Tebow this, Tebow that.

KOOL & the Gang

October 5th, 2009
2:31 pm

What the hell does Earth Wind & Fire know about celebrating, we wrote the damn song. Everybody.. “There’s party goin’ on right here, a celebrtation to last through out the year, so bring your times and your laughter too, we’re gonna celebrate your party with you ……

We sincerely hope this song sticks in your head today. You know it will. “It’s time to come together, it’s up to you, what’s your pleasure, everybody round the world come on!

Niiiiiiiiiiice

October 5th, 2009
2:32 pm

Dooley on penalizing excess: ‘No question it’s a good rule’

TRANSLATION: Dooley to Mr. Brain-fart:

“Tony, I have already forgotten more about college footbal than
you’ll EVER know. So, just STHU !!!!!!!!!!!”

coach smith

October 5th, 2009
2:42 pm

Mutt Nonsense

actually I addressed that a page or two ago

go back and look at the video PLEASE he did NOT catch it on the 15

UGAKev {true dawg fan}

October 5th, 2009
2:43 pm

Make no mistake about it Georgia will be playing Alabama in december for the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP. Georgia has now found a so running back and AJ Green is the real deal. I think were a more dangerous team now since the pressure is completely off our backs we just need to go out and have fun and the chips will fall where they may. Copy and remember this name when the Dawgs win the SEC east. Washun Ealey is the real deal, too bad it takes a little too long to figure out your most talented players some time. The facts remain the same we need to win the rest of our SEC games, we still control our own destiny. We lost to tennessee in 2007 we looked terrible we were all left for dead. Never give up on the Dawgs as long as they still have a heartbeat.

coach smith

October 5th, 2009
2:43 pm

Tide Rising

100 yards recieving and a TD

Yeah AJ GREEN was really “shut down”

wes

October 5th, 2009
2:44 pm

How is that call the worst you’ve seen in 32 years? Giving a team a 5th down is at the very top of the list:

You need to read this article about officiating and how it has only truly changed the course of a game roughly 10 times in the history of sports. THESE are bad plays:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/readers/worstcalls.html

gdawginkalamazoo

October 5th, 2009
2:44 pm

Yeah, I don’t get the Tebow references either. What the hell, don’t comment on him if he isn’t even playing in the game. You can’t get into this WWTD if he wasn’t there.

Rick

October 5th, 2009
2:45 pm

So, I’ve heard a couple of reasons why the penalty did not cause UGA to lose. Here are my responses to each of those arguments:

- “UGA should’ve covered the kickoff better or tackled Scott on the TD run”. To me, this all comes down to momentum. We had ALL of the momentum after Green’s TD and that penalty took the momentum away from us and gave it back to LSU. Had we not been penalized, I believe we would’ve either kicked the ball through the end zone (which Walsh did earlier in the game) or we would’ve covered it better than we did (again, back to the momentum thing). Thanks to the refs, we will never know. And, once they had the ball at the 37yd line, we hadd to stack the line to prevent them from getting any yardage, which definitely assisted the TD run by Scott. If they were on their 40yd line, they wouldn’t have even called that play.

- “LSU had a celebration penalty, too. LSU just did more with their penalty”. This is a bogus argument, too. The first penalty gave LSU so much hope and momentum because LSU knew it only needed a FG to win. We needed a TD just to tie after LSU’s TD. Plus, tack on the demoralized state of the team after the events of the previous 5 minutes. I imagine Joe Cox and the offense were just in disbelief that they were even in that position. Of course, it didnt help that the penalty played into one of LSU’s biggest strengths and our biggest weakness (kick return/coverage).

To those who say Richt should’ve coached them better about the celebration rule doesn’t understand that GREEN DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO DESERVE A PENALTY!!!! So, I can’t imagine what they could do to “coach up” Green and the team??? If that should’ve been a penalty (in some deranged world), then they need to change the name of the penalty to the ‘celebration’ penalty and drop the word ‘excessive’.

That reminds me – doesn’t Tebow gesture to the crowd every time he does his stupid little hop as he makes his way back to the sidelines after a TD? (sorry can’t describe it any better than that). I’ve never seen that get flagged?!?!? I wonder why?

UGAKev {true dawg fan}

October 5th, 2009
2:47 pm

Make no mistake about it Georgia will be playing Alabama in december for the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP. Georgia has now found a running back and AJ Green is the real deal. I think were a more dangerous team now since the pressure is completely off our backs we just need to go out and have fun and the chips will fall where they may. Copy and remember this name when the Dawgs win the SEC east. Washun Ealey is the real deal, too bad it takes a little too long to figure out your most talented players some time. The facts remain the same we need to win the rest of our SEC games, we still control our own destiny. We lost to tennessee in 2007 we looked terrible we were all left for dead. Never give up on the Dawgs as long as they still have a heartbeat.

UGAKev {true dawg fan}

October 5th, 2009
2:49 pm

Rick I could of not said it better myself

Tide Rising

October 5th, 2009
2:49 pm

Coach Smith,

Seems like every time Patrick Peterson was on him Peterson did in fact shut him down. Even dog fans have to acknowledge that AJ got his yardage when lined up opposite # 7. Why do you think several of the dawg fans are questioning and posting as to why #7 wasn’t flagged for smack talking. He was doing a lot of smack talking because he was backing it up. Get over the one penalty. The better team won.

senoiadawgs

October 5th, 2009
2:50 pm

Those of you who can watch the game again or maybe it was just a different angle I saw somewhere. Go back and Watch Scott’s TD. There is one shot were you can see the Back Judge running toward the endzone with the flag in his hand before anything and I mean anything happened. This says his mind was already made up before Scott or LSU did anything.

Yes the penalty cost UGA the game with the situation the followed starting with the kickoff. Does LSU win without the penalty? Doubtful as they would most likely have had to throw it down the field, but we will never know.

Can we please talk about something else that can help this team and put the pressure on the coaches that are clearly failing. I know it’s tiring to talk about but that is the only way to bring about change. Just like the celebration penalty, as coaches Richt and the mad hatter should be all over the national news bashing the officials and the rule.

Rick

October 5th, 2009
2:53 pm

Randyarnold – tell me what AJ did that made it seem like he “hadn’t been there before”? That’s the problem with the call, he did nothing to deserve it. And, from everything I have heard and read about AJ, he is a class act all the way. If anything, his teammates were more enthusiastic than he was!

It’s just a shame we weren’t able to see the real ending to the game. Would LSU have still won? Who the heck knows?

jumbeauxtiger

October 5th, 2009
2:54 pm

Thanks Tide Rising I was there and I could tell in the first quarter the Tigers would play well. I don’t know why Hawkins was on AJ on the TD pass. Hawkins gave up the winning TD to Ark last season too. He’s just not as talented as Peterson.

Green is scary good and he had me on pins and needles the whole game. Cox flat out missed him on the post for a sure TD in the 1st half. He got by Peterson and Chad Jones was not back there to help.

A team like Auburn that keeps winning gains confidence. They certainly deserve to be in the Top 25. It is definitely a four horse race and you may be right about a 2 loss division winner. That said I don’t see Bama losing more than one game if that in the regular season.

I don’t think your prediction was unreasonable. I was driving Friday and never got to post my picks but I had UGA 27-10.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

Tide Rising

October 5th, 2009
2:56 pm

Rick,

A lot of if if if if s in your post. Bottom line is that the penalty aided LSU by 15 yards but that still leaves about 65 yards that LSU made happen from the point where Holliday caught the ball at the 20.

Not the refs fault that Georgia could not contain Holliday.

Not their fault that Georgia could not contain Scott.

Not their fault that Georgia got the ball back with a similar 15 yard penalty and had the same amount of time to work with that LSU took in scoring their td.

Not the refs fault that Scott broke 3 tackles on his way to the td. You can blame 15 yards on the ref. Can’t blame the ref for everything else that happened on that series or that didn’t happen when UGA got the ball back.

Scott

October 5th, 2009
2:58 pm

Exactly. Pretty much impossible for any rational sports fan to disagree with this.

Tech Man in Dawg Country

October 5th, 2009
2:59 pm

Tony,
You stand by your worst call in 3 decades because it was a non-football, judgement call? Not sure it that makes it better or not. All it did was back up the kickoff by 15 yards. There was no impact on the actual play. Every play still counted, no one was hampered on the play. So the more I think about it, it makes it LESS grievous.

And still not sure how you can say it is worse that the Colorado 5th down. Or even the clock continuing to run after the 1st down in the Tech/NC game for that matter. But the 5th down HAS to take the cake. If you don’t agree with that, then boy, you are even more of a homer than I thought. Maybe even and Simpson after the Homer tag!

AZ Jacket

October 5th, 2009
2:59 pm

So what Tony and all the dawg fans are saying is that since you were in the 4th quarter of a close game and an official sees a infraction that they should not call it because it might impact the game. As a retired football official that is a bunch of BS. I would bet the bank that the official who called the infraction did not care what the score was or what point it was in the ballgame. Generally an official calls on instinct and judgement. There is a saying in the fraternity of official, “What you call in the 1st Qtr. is also a foul in the 4th Qtr.” I find it not only insulting but downright stupid that the integrity of these guys is being questioned by a bunch of whining fans. Tony, I don’t take much stock in your opinion because if had helped the dawgs win you would have thought it was the greatest call ever made. I dont’t think the call was made based on score or time left in the ballgame. The call was made because there was an infraction and who knows there may have been warnings.

Mutt Nonsense

October 5th, 2009
3:00 pm

coach smith,

Yeah, saw it and I addressed that. You’re right, I was wrong, he caught it on the 17. A full TWO yards ahead of the 15.

http://www.2theadvocate.com/sports/lsu/63461157.html

Still stand by your comments? I thought you’ve “watched the replay a few times.”

“Holliday caught the ball on the LSU 31 yard line, returned it 27 yards (not bad for kickoff coverage) to the UGA 42 and then they added a 5 yard penalty to put it at the 38″

Also, see my fun little math problem addressing your other charge of ‘idiot’ in my direction..

“From 15 to 15 really? LOL that would be a 70+ yard kick. If our kicker could do that the normal kickoffs would be out of the endzone”

It appears you’re the one having a hard time dealing w/ what actually happened in the game. You from the Marc Richt coaching tree by any chance?

GETITRIGHT

October 5th, 2009
3:01 pm

P-Man you make too much sense. But you can’t reason with guys
who ae out to win A

The ref

October 5th, 2009
3:03 pm

Senioadawgs,

You state its doubtful LSU would have done anything in going down the field had they not been awarded the 15 yards. Really? You’re not Nostrodamus. You don’t know that. And on top of that its only 15 yards. Considering how easily LSU moved the last 40 yards for a td who are you to say they couldn’t have moved an extra 15 just because of field position. Charles Scott looked like he coulda ran another 30 yards. If you back up LSU 15 yards Scott still more than likely would have scored or very minimally LSU would have been in position for an easy field goal. I don’t base this on opinion. I base it on the fact that the guy made it so easily into the end zone with plenty of room to spare. The idea that LSU couldn’t have made up 15 yards is just more delusional thinking by dawg fans.

gdawginkalamazoo

October 5th, 2009
3:03 pm

jumbeauxtiger, I obviously wasn’t at the game but how many more times did they run AJ on a post pattern during the game? Congrats on the win, I think LSU played a much better (complete) game and deserved the win. We just seemed stuck on running the ball into the line instead of throwing down the field. Give AJ the chances and he will make the catches. I think Bobo needs to work on getting first downs instead of the home run ball once a series.

Mutt Nonsense

October 5th, 2009
3:04 pm

coach smith,

Here’s your full post in case your memory is fading…looks like you’re the one that needs to watch the video replay. Were you watching the same game?

“How did the call not affect the outcome of the game?

All LSU needed was field goal. By kick from the 15 yard line they only had to go a few yards to get that field goal

Holliday caught the ball on the LSU 31 yard line, returned it 27 yards (not bad for kickoff coverage) to the UGA 42 and then they added a 5 yard penalty to put it at the 38

They were basically in field goal range already. The TD didn’t matter because if they hadn’t got it, LSU would’ve been able to run out the clock and kick the field goal

Without the penalty LSU (even with the same 27 yard return) LSU would have had to go 43 yards to get a field goal attempt under 50 yards. They also would have had to pass on about every play and be desperate and UGA could’ve been able to pin their ears back and continue the sack parade

To say that the penalty didn’t decide the game does nothing more than show your Tech or LSU allegance”

GETITRIGHT

October 5th, 2009
3:05 pm

are out to win A hole of the month . So forget intellegent discussion.

The ref

October 5th, 2009
3:08 pm

Mutt nonsense,

You are correct. All the dawgs got is if if if if if if. If they had to go an extra 15 yards, what if we had kicked it into the end zone, if if if if if if. Delusional and absolutely refuse to face the fact that the return and Scott run are what beat the dawgs, not one 15 yard penalty of which LSU was also assessed. What a bunch of crybabies.

The ref

October 5th, 2009
3:13 pm

Mutt nonsense,

Wait a minute. The Holliday return was for 40 yards and Scott ran for 33 yards. I also assume that LSU got 5 yards from the 38 to the 33 where Scott made his run.

Where did those 78 yards come from? Did they come from the refs? Uh. Nope! Seems LSU MADE those 78 yards happen. Refs didn’t give LSU the game. LSU just flat out took it from the dawgs!

senoiadawgs

October 5th, 2009
3:16 pm

The ref

Here is why Scott would have most likely not been running the ball. After the game Jefferson admitted they were running the ball to setup the field goal. Walsh provided Fabris didn’t force the directional kick, the same kick would have been near the goal line. 15 yards would not have mattered you say, lsu would have the ball with the same return on the UGA side of the field and would have been forced the throw the ball. They had not thrown the ball consistently well all day just like UGA. These are the facts and cannot be disputed.

Now on the how bad the call really was, on College Football Live Jesse Palmer say that Urban Meyer called the call AWFUL!!!! ESPN still blasting the call also which almost never happens in the favor of UGA.

Ginger

October 5th, 2009
3:17 pm

Good post Tony !!

Mutt Nonsense

October 5th, 2009
3:18 pm

Sorry coach smith. I hate to let a silly little thing like the truth come between friends.

Mutt Nonsense

October 5th, 2009
3:22 pm

senoiadawgs,

After the penalty, where did LSU start? The UGA 43 yard line. Guess what, that’s not in field goal range. What did they do? Ran the ball. Not sure I buy the “they wouldn’t have run the ball” argument.

Also, what’s to say that Holliday doesn’t take the kick return farther if it was back 15 yards. Maybe picking it up at the goal line changes the LSU special teams strategy and he doesn’t cross the field. What if they would have stayed on the same side, picked up all the blocks and there was no pursuit left to catch Holliday like was there on a cross field run?

It’s fun to play the what if game isn’t it? Who would have thought being Nostradamus was so easy?

coach smith

October 5th, 2009
3:23 pm

Mutt Nonsense

are you a TECHIE or LSU Tiger?

why do you feel the need to be on a UGA blog?

BAMA STAN

October 5th, 2009
3:26 pm

12 NATIONAL TITLES – 21 SEC TITLES!!!

To ugafanatic – You make good points, HOWEVER, I am talking about the present – not two years ago – not three years ago – not five years ago.

UGA has been passed as a program by Georgia Tech and Alabama.

I am taking about current state.

Are you telling me that UGA would beat Alabama tomorrow? Uga is struggling this year – Alabama thrashed UGA last year and would do so this year.

Are you telling me that UGA would beat GA Tech tomorrow? Pure specualtion – but my money would ride on GA TECH.

My point being is that UGA has become post glory year FSU of the SEC. Good athletes that play too undisciplined. When Coach MR says he is not concerned about penalties – that is a huge problem……and it has cost UGA dearly.

Was the celebration penalty correct? NO – but UGA needed to finish the game “FINSH THE DRILL” – so what did they do?
1. Kickoff from a STUPID “break huddle” formation that had the kicker kick-off with sideline defenders at least 5 yards behind him on the right side – and the players were TOO STUPID to know what side of the kicker to be on – adding another fice yards.

UGA got hosed on the call – but then did the rest themselves because this is a POOR tackling team that has no discipline!!!!

Hey – I was rooting for UGA – and will root for Florida to beat LSU – (it’s an SEC WEST thing)

The top teams in the SEC have seperated themselves from UGA – and the mid pack teams have caught up.

Historically – UGA is the overall 5th best SEC program (based on head to head competition) – and guess what?????? UGA is probably is a mid pack SEC team at the moment. Put it this way – you had 68 seconds with a lead and a kickoff – and you still got beat.

ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sec blog

October 5th, 2009
3:27 pm

Coach smith,

This is an sec blog from Tony, not a dawg blog. Go to the dawg blog with the guy that looks like a mountain man/redneck with the beard, big glasses, long hair. He is very representative of the dawg nation. A real redneck if I’ve ever seen one.

senoiadawgs

October 5th, 2009
3:28 pm

I can’t argue with someone who has the facts all wrong Mutt Nonsense just check your post from 3:04

sec blog

October 5th, 2009
3:28 pm

my correction. Its not even a sec blog. Its a college football blog that Tony puts out. Go to the dawg blog fool

coach smith

October 5th, 2009
3:31 pm

No matter what I think about the so called “penalty” I’m still behind the DAWGS and I’ll say this

IF TEBOW does not play Saturday night….Florida WILL NOT beat LSU

Mutt Nonsense

October 5th, 2009
3:32 pm

senoiadawgs,

Sorry tough guy, that 3:04 post was a re-post of coach smith’s comments earlier calling people idiots. I was trying to remind him of his comments he conveniently forgot.

coach smith,

Neither. I’m here to call out the nonsense you pup fans spew. Truth hurts. And has been stated, this is not a Dawg blog. Its a college FB blog.

coach smith

October 5th, 2009
3:40 pm

Bama Stan

come on now! “fifth best team”

Tehy even said on the broadcast that UGA was the winningest team in College Football over the last 9 years

WHEN IS THE LAST TIME BAMA WON ANYTHING????????

Richt is 3-1 vs Alabama
2-5 vs Florida
5-3 vs Tenn
3-3 vs LSU
4-0 vs Ole miss, MsSt, and Arkansas
7-1 vs Vandy and Kentucky
5-3 vs Auburn
6-2 vs SCAR
I think that is a little more than a # 5 team in the SEC

I hate to tell you Alabama and Auburn and TENN fans BUT for the past 10 years there has been 3 teams that matter UGA, FLA, and LSU
Besides one blip by Auburn those teams have won pretty much every SEC title since 2000

ATLDawg

October 5th, 2009
3:42 pm

The momentum was certainly changed by the excessive celebration penalty. Did it cost UGA the game, we’ll never know. Before UGA even made the kickoff after the TD, they knew that LSU would almost be in field goal position before the return.

Nativebird

October 5th, 2009
3:44 pm

Not sure it was worst in 30 years; The “fifth” down at Colorado in 1990 taking away 1/2 of Tech’s Natl Championship has got to be maybe the worst miscarriage of justice I’ve ever seen.

Gatorzone

October 5th, 2009
3:45 pm

coach smith

October 5th, 2009
3:31 pm
No matter what I think about the so called “penalty” I’m still behind the DAWGS and I’ll say this

IF TEBOW does not play Saturday night….Florida WILL NOT beat LSU

I suppose from this we are to infer that the only reason UF is better than UGA is Tim Tebow? Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

SimpleDawg

October 5th, 2009
3:46 pm

TB,

I disagree with you and Bradley…the bull$#!+ call on AJ Green did most assuredly cost Georgia the game. Walsh has been fairly consistent in kicking the ball deep….granted, the stupid penalty for illegal formation didn’t help, but at worst the Dawgs would’ve had to re-kick from the 25.

I don’t care what the rule states….that was a stupid call, and the guy should be fired.

The rule has to be changed.

BUT….had Joe Cox not had his head so far up his @$$ in the first half, we could have had a sizable lead anyway.

Why does Washaun Ealey play more? I’ve been saying for months that he has to play, because the other 2 can’t.

TechCrybaby

October 5th, 2009
3:46 pm

Why did the Bulldogs lose? Wasn’t it because they did not score at all until the fourth quarter? Same reason the Braves did not make the playoffs – they didn’t get going earlier in the season.

coach smith

October 5th, 2009
3:48 pm

Gatorzone

absolutely not! BUT Tebow is your leader and saves sooooo many bad plays and almost wills your team forward

IF he can’t play, LSU at night for all the marbles (at least right now) is a TOUGH mental blow to take for your team and an even tougher place for your backup QB to make his FIRST START

I should have said it more like that, that I beleve the deck will be stacked against the Gators if he can’t play

I wasn’t taking a shot. The Gators have my respect

senoiadawgs

October 5th, 2009
3:49 pm

Good for you then Mutt Nonsense, I thought you were totally putting out wrong info. To bad for the guy that did.

However, no matter who you are a fan of you can’t say that the call didn’t change the game. The swing in momentum, the extra glimmer of hope the 15 did give LSU, the change in field position if everything plays out the same minus the 5 yarder. I was the first to come on here and say the penalty did not cost UGA the game and got slammed for it Sat. While it didn’t cost the game, it certainly changed the way the game played out. That’s the whole point, officials changing a game unnecessarily at the end. While it helped CBS, you know it was bad when the national media is on the Dawgs side. I also was not trying to be Nostradamus, I didn’t say LSU would not have scored I said Most Likely would not have. There is a big difference just as with every other UGA fan I know how bad our kickoff team has been.

tiger7_88

October 5th, 2009
3:50 pm

Barnhart-ese translated for the non-flea-bitten-pups: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Your best blog post EVAR, Tony!

coach smith

October 5th, 2009
3:51 pm

All the Dawg doubters

Remember 2007 when the young Dawgs were 3-2 after being killed by TENNESSEE

what happned? The DAWGS won out and finished #2

We are actually in a BETTER position this year than that year b/c that year both of the losses were SEC losses

If the Dawgs win the next 2 it will set a up a deciding match with Florida on Halloween