It is amazing that Georgia is 3-1



Nobody asked me but:


1. Logically, there is no way Georgia should be 3-1: I believe that turnover margin is the most important statistic in football. Turnover margin is the number of turnovers you have created compared to the number that you have given up. Good teams are almost always in the plus territory in turnover margin. Through four games, Georgia is minus-9 in turnover margin (12 giveaways versus 3 takeaways). Georgia is also 115th nationally in penalties with 41 in four games.

Coach Mark Richt told me on Tuesday that he was confident that his Bulldogs could turn those stats around. “The important thing to know about stats like that is what happens in the past does not matter,” Richt said. “What matters is what happens on Saturday against LSU.” He’s right. If Georgia keeps its turnovers to two or fewer, I think the Bulldogs have a very good chance to win. If they stick to their average of three turnovers and 10 penalties per game, they won’t.


2. Florida can beat LSU without Tebow: Everybody seems to have an opinion on whether or not Tim Tebow should play on Oct. 10 against LSU.  Concussions are a tricky thing, to be sure. And there are people who seem to believe that there will be pressure to put Tebow back into action before it is safe to do so. If you know the Florida medical staff, you know that is not going to happen. If you know Tebow’s dad, Bob, you know that is not going to happen. If you know Urban Meyer and his relationship with the Tebows, you know that it is not going to happen. How about this? Instead of worrying what Florida is going to do with Tebow, let’s talk about whether or not the Gators can win in Baton Rouge without him. The answer is yes. I’ll explain next week but know that it has to do with defense.


3. Florida State has to win at Boston College:  Here is a great stat from Corey Clark of the Tallahassee Democrat. In 2005 Florida State was ranked No. 4 in the nation when it was upset by unranked Virginia. Since then Florida State has played 48 games against Division I-A competition. In those games Florida State, which was once the most dominant program in college football, is 25-23. Here is another big stat from Corey: In its last 16 games against teams from the six BCS conferences (excluding Duke), Florida State is 5-11. That is staggering. A team at this level that almost loses to Jacksonville State and loses to a USF team with a brand new quarterback has big issues. It is an issue of focus. Coaches get paid to get their team ready to play. I have a great amount of respect and admiration for Bobby Bowden. But his team was not well coached last week.


4. Oklahoma has to win at Miami: Miami is a young, talented football team that got a lot of love after impressively beating Georgia Tech. Then Miami went on the road against a veteran Virginia Tech team and was exposed as a young team not quite ready for prime time. I expect them to bounce back and play well against Oklahoma. But it is Oklahoma that really has to win Saturday’s game at Miami. Because of its 14-13 loss to BYU on Sept. 5, the Sooners have absolutely no margin for error if they want to stay in the national championship race. Obviously Bob Stoops and company want to still be a factor when they face No. 2 Texas in Dallas on Oct. 17. If Oklahoma loses at Land Shark Stadium then the Sooners can only play the role of spoiler for Texas. They would hate to be in that position.


5. Ole Miss does not have a gimme at Vanderbilt: Ole Miss was knocked out of the No. 4 ranking last week with a loss to South Carolina. But the Rebels will still win the SEC West if they run the table. They have Alabama coming to Oxford on Oct. 10, Arkansas on Oct. 24, Tennessee on Nov. 14 and LSU on Nov. 21. So the schedule is set up for Ole Miss to make a nice run. But there is a problem. Vanderbilt tends to play Ole Miss tough. In fact, the Commodores beat the Rebels last season in Oxford. If Ole Miss gets caught looking ahead to Alabama, the Rebels could be out of the SEC West race by the first Saturday in October.


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September 30th, 2009
8:42 am


The ACC was 6-4 vs. the SEC last year.

We need a 128 team playoff just like basketball.

Tech will beat UConn in the ACC Championship game.

Thank God & Greyhound we don’t play William & Mary.

Saint Simons

September 30th, 2009
8:45 am

45 – 42 !!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


September 30th, 2009
8:49 am

Are you kidding? Vanderbilt? They were crushed by Mississippi State. Ole Miss is not that great. But, they will distroy Vandy.

Florida State used to be my second favorite team. I cannot watch them anymore. I hope they lose out and Bobby is sent to the home.

Tnias Snomis

September 30th, 2009
8:51 am

7-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark Richt


September 30th, 2009
8:57 am

All the talk about Tebow gets old. I glad this is his last year in college football. However, with a concussion is a serious issue that could affect his life afterwards. Steve Young was only one or two hits away from not being an ESPN sportscaster.

Meyer needs to see if his next star quarterback can play in the big league. At least he has two weeks to prepare.

BTW…Saint Slim-mons needs to get a life!!

Paul H

September 30th, 2009
9:00 am

- Only Tech fans still glee over something that happened last season when this season is already in full swing.

- m, Uconn isn’t in the ACC.

- of course, since no one watches the ACC Championship game or ever goes to it, I can understand the confusion.


September 30th, 2009
9:01 am

Glad to hear Tebow is better but gotta admit I was amused at the Urbanators remarks about “class” that KY and Rich Brooks displayed after the incident.
Class, as in what you haven’t dislayed in having your QB in Throwing up by 4+ TD’s or the 60+ beatdown from the prevoius year you administered to KY (probably throwing late in the 4th qtr.).
Hopefully lessons on “class” will be learned by his highness Urban.
Thank you Rich Brooks for proving there is someone in the SEC that does have class.

Paul H

September 30th, 2009
9:02 am

- m, basketball has a 65 team playoff, not a 128 team playoff. ahh Tech fans…

Paul Bryant

September 30th, 2009
9:03 am

Yes, Ole Miss slaughters Vanderbuilt and the Gumps beat Kentucky this week end

Gen Neyland

September 30th, 2009
9:09 am

Georgia is 3-1 because of 6-4 Green. Not Samuel, Cox, King, OL, CWM…Green. Cox heaves, Green catches. It’s a case of the Randy Moss Enigma for the rest of the SEC.


September 30th, 2009
9:12 am

Apparently, m has recently suffered a stroke.

In other news, it’s also amazing that were it not for a bogus roughness penalty called against Rashad Jones in the OK St. game, Georgia could very well be sitting on 4-0 right now despite the turnovers and penalties. If that doesn’t speak to the level of talent that we have in this program then I don’t know what does. Given that, the fact that they can’t put all phases of the game together and legitimately expect to challenge UF and Bama for SEC supremacy is a tad maddening.


September 30th, 2009
9:19 am

1. Turnover U needs to right the ship. The team with the most points will win. Book it!
2. No Tony, I do not know the UF medical staff.
3. Gameday is going to be at the BC/FSU game? Really? Does Herbie have some strange in Chestnut Hills?
4. This game would have been great 10 years ago.
5. Ole Miss has a gimme this week.


September 30th, 2009
9:23 am

Hey “Paul Bryant” the GUMPS are 4-0 and ranked #3.. how is your team doing dork face?

Are you serious?

September 30th, 2009
9:24 am

quaildawg- 24 points isn’t a four TD advantage (assuming you make a couple extra points). Being up 24 in the 3rd doesn’t mean the game is over. The “class” talk in regards to Meyer is amusing coming from a dawg fan.


September 30th, 2009
9:26 am

It’s time for the Florida defense to return the favor to Tim Tebow for carrying them to the championship game last season.


September 30th, 2009
9:26 am

For all of you Dawg fans that have been talking about how weak GT’s schedule is and the “cupcake” games we play- did you notice that UGA has now added Louisiana Lafayette and Idaho State to the 2010 schedule? Wow, that is impressive. Especially after all the talk in these blogs about how Damon Evans is focused on improving the quality of OOC games at UGA. Nice.


September 30th, 2009
9:27 am

The turnovers and pathetic play will probably continue. Sometimes I just think we are cursed.


September 30th, 2009
9:29 am

Enjoy your column TB! As a gator fan and Tebow admirer it’s sad to see the folks that constantly complain about the over exposure of Tebow. Tell you what, if he had gone to their team instead of UF then they wouldn’t be able to get enough!!! You really got it right when you said “if you know”…………………………….medical staff, Bob Tebow, and URBAN MEYER then folks would know that TT WILL NOT play or be pressured to play if not ready!! Those three words (”if you know”) say it all! The whiners and the jealous ones don’t know SHEET!!! “IT’S GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!” BTW, John Brantley will light up the tiger D!

Herschel Talker

September 30th, 2009
9:33 am

Is anyone else here fed up with hearing Mark Richt talk about how he thinks the guys can turn around the undisciplined play, penalties, and foolish mistakes? We’ve been hearing this song and dance for several years now. After 3 years of this nonsense, what is going to get it turned around at this point? Oh yeah. I know. How about a coach with some fire and moxie, a la Saban and Urban? Instead, Richt coddles these guys and reads them bible verses rather than making them run steps. What a joke.


September 30th, 2009
9:34 am

don’t forget, Georgia is 90 th in total defense……….I may not be exact, but we are near the bottom.
Carolina and ASU could of gone either way. Yes, we won, But are we not a lot better than these guys.
I will take ugly wins every week, but turning the ball over 3-4 times a game and giving up 450+ yards a game will not bode well in the coming weeks. I fear for the wrath coming. Hell, we’re winning and most are coming unglued.

Gator Nation

September 30th, 2009
9:37 am

PMC…Tebow was great last year in the championship game, but the defense was equally as fantastic. They held an Oklahoma juggernaut of an offense in check all game. In my humble opinion, the defense earned thier share of both the 2006 and 2008 national championships.

Which begs the question, why is Charlie Strong not a head coach yet?

Trade School Junkie

September 30th, 2009
9:38 am

Wow, Tony Brain-fart is REALLY speaking in “code” this morning.

I’ll offer the translation:

1. Logically, there is no way Georgia should be 3-1:
Translation: We are SO DAMN over-rated even a ug homer like me is shocked we’ve even won 1 game!

2. Florida can beat LSU without Tebow
Translation: Well, DUUUUHHHHHHHHHH. LSU is so bad this year they almost lost to MissSt. Guess Coach Miles has added more security around his hime & office.

3. Florida State has to win at Boston College
Translation: Damn it Bobby. I’ve been telling EVERYONE that FSU is BACK, and you’re making me look like a jackazz.

4. Oklahoma has to win at Miami
Translation: I cant afford to have the Big 12 look bad to an ACC team. Afterall, I’m voting for another BCS NC (Bowl cartel System) match-up of Florida & Texas. Oklahoma losing to the U would REALLY mess up my BCS Fantasy Football league.

5. Ole Miss does not have a gimme at Vanderbilt
Translation: Damn it, Nutt, you hick. YOU’D BETTER WIN OR THE WHOLE

There. Message all clear now, folks ??


September 30th, 2009
9:38 am

Turnovers are huge in this game. I don’t think LSU can hang with UGA unless the D causes a couple of turnovers. So far this year, LSU has only turned the ball over 3 times while causing 10. If this trend continues, LSU should walk out of Athens with a win. Remember, the difference last year were the two Jarrett Lee pick-6’s.

As for Tebow playing against LSU in 2 weeks. Well, that’s a long ways away.


September 30th, 2009
9:39 am

Big Tone, good blog about our dawgs. How we are 3-1 is amazing. Perhaps a miracle. Our turnover situation is so bad let me tell you how the crowd reacted to Rambo’s INT last Sat night. Do you remember the Movie “The Bad News Bears”? When Ahmad made the catch in right field, looked up into his glove and the ball was there somehow. That’s how the crowd reacted when we got that INT. The crowd was shocked when we came up with it.

Does anyone know what our turnover margin has been since the beginning of the 08′ season? This problem seems like it has been going on for awhile now.

Finally, You don’t have to worry about me picking a UGA team to trounce their opponent this Sat as I have every week. I don’t know what to think about this coaching staff at the moment.


September 30th, 2009
9:39 am

Herschel, I don’t think it’s that bad, but we do need some serious changes in preparation in Athens, and yes, we need a new coach or two. It’s going to get very hot in Athens the next few weeks BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THUS FAR and the Schedule heating up. LSU,TENN,AUBURN, Florida and TECH all look big. Sometimes things have to get really bad before they get better. Let’s hope we win them all……..but……………………….


September 30th, 2009
9:41 am

Florida can beat LSU without Tebow. You’re absolutely right, Mr. Barnhart!

Bow Wow

September 30th, 2009
9:42 am

Georgia will continue to have excessive penalties and turnovers as long as Richt continues to yell at the referees and not the players.


September 30th, 2009
9:42 am

Tony you didn’t consider LSU’s turnover number Saturday. If UGA commits 3 and LSU 4 or more and UGA wins you look stupid.

Why not criticize Meyer for playing Tebow with such a lead. He already takes more hits than probably any other back in Div. 1. Meyer deserves the wrath of the fans, media, and medine!


September 30th, 2009
9:43 am

Mr. TB, even if GA has no TO’s they’ll have a tough time winning against LSU. For GA to win, CWM needs to keep a man on Jefferson at all times and do what Miss St did on def to stop the run then take your chances your DB’s will make plays against LSU’s taller receivers. GA has to have a complete game on both sides of the ball. It’ll be up to the GA def to win this game because I don’t see the dawgs scoring too many points w/our running game sputtering along and Joe’s going to have a tough time completing passes against LSU pressure and tall fast DB’s.
The table has to turn in this game for UGA. For once let their opponent have (more) TO’s in enemy territory and special teams have to shine. Sound like a perfect game for UGA? It has to be for the dawgs to win.


September 30th, 2009
9:44 am

Saint Simons …

As a Tech fan myself, with all due respect, you embarrass me.

the Sports Buffet


September 30th, 2009
9:44 am

The Dawgs have most assuredly staggered through the first third of the season. 3 turnovers and 10 penalties per game is a recipe for disaster, and an indication of poor discipline, poor coaching, and/or poor evaluation of talent – recruiting or playing status. Georgia should have beaten all 4 of their opponents to date, but instead, almost lost all 3. Normally – given the circumstances in which they won, I’d say their winning 3 out of 4 is a sign of mental toughness, but I’m not so sure that the primary perception shouldn’t be that someone had to lose…and the opposing teams were more inept in their efforts than the Dawgs.

Having said that, I still believe that there is sufficient talent at Georgia to match up with the other teams on their schedule, but the question still remains…can the Dawgs learn from their mistakes and eliminate the turnovers and penalties?

The Urbane Crier is about to have a hissy-fit over the injury to Tebow and it’s impact on his coronation as the Best College Football Coach Alive by derailing Florida’s run to the National Championship. The lick Tebow received in the Kentucky game was as violent a blow as I’ve seen in a long time….don’t be surprised if misses a month or more. LSU wins against the Gators…regardless of the outcome in Athens.

FSU will remain a second tier program as long as Bobby Bowden is the coach. They can no longer attract the best talent with the retirement watch hanging over the program.

Oklahoma and Miami will be an interesting contest. Who is a real contender, and who is the pretender?

Bradford’s injury, and subsequent loss of playing time, is equal to the loss of Tebow at Florida. The loss of skill is one thing, but the loss of the aura of invincibility is much greater.

Ole Miss may have received the Goliathian rock’s blow from David’s sling in losing to USC-East, especially in the manner in which they lost. Their potent offense was shackled, and their highly hyped QB was made to look like a wide-eyed freshman. They still should beat Vandy, but not by much.

If Clempson loses at Maryland this weekend, the orange tide of despair will engulf the program, and overwhelm all of the good things Dabo Swinney has done there. The Clempson people still believe they should be a dominating force on the college football landscape…as it was back in the 1980’s. Danny Ford is gone, and he ain’t coming back.

As for Tech, if UNC had had a QB who could hit a wide open receiver at least half of the time, the Techmites would have been down by 14 points at the half. I guess the Tar Holes’ woes made Tech’s players smarter.

slim jim

September 30th, 2009
9:44 am

with Tebow out, Florida’s whole offensive style of play changes. Brantley can throw the ball better down the field than Tebow.
good call with Vandy keeping it close against Ole Miss. Vandy always gives Ole Miss a hell of a game.


September 30th, 2009
9:45 am

Paul H …

Just as I believe not all Georgia fans are obnoxious, I hope you realize the same about Tech fans.

the Sports Buffet

SEC Decider

September 30th, 2009
9:45 am

New rule in the SEC, based on comments of Ga fans: when your team is up by 24 points, the starting QB must come out of the game or not throw a pass, or the coach “doesn’t have class”! Remember this rule SEC fans—and be sure to criticize any coach for “lack of class” who doesn’t follow it!!!!!

Paul H

September 30th, 2009
9:47 am



September 30th, 2009
9:48 am

Thank goodness for M (ACC 6-4 vs. SEC in 2008) and Saint Simons (45-42 hahahaha). Thank you for posting your comments early today so that I and all others did not have to search for them. Please look up the word “relevance” before blogging any further.


September 30th, 2009
9:49 am

Exactly Herschel Talker…I’m tired of hearing Richt talk about what needs to be done, rather than ACTUALLY DOING IT.

And I hope some one starts a running tab of how many times he uses the term “pretty good” in reference to the team. It’s almost like his mantra…and unfortunately, it seems to have become the team’s mantra the past couple of years.


September 30th, 2009
9:53 am

Patrick Peterson has been preparing all offseason for 2 specific matchups. THe first comes this weekend against AJ Green. Peterson is huge! Probably the biggest CB Green will go up agsinst before he plays on Sundays. It’ll be interesting to see how the two sophomores do against each other and it’ll be interesting to see if Cox is brave enough to throw that way. Green had the upper hand last year, I think we’ll see a different story this year. Also, Chad Jones has come around in his pass coverage but can still be beat. Against the run though, you are not running through or past him.

Should be a great game!


September 30th, 2009
9:54 am

keep talking about Tebow and LSU-i hope LSU is talking about him from here on out


September 30th, 2009
9:58 am

The thing that is most concerning about the turnovers and penalties is all we heard FROM THE COACHES during the spring and summer is how they were working to correct them and the result is the Dawgs are tracking to actually be WORSE than last season. How is this possible?! Whatever “punishment” they are giving is obviously not effective and both things seem to be a result of a lack of both discipline and focus. Something has to change or it’s going to be a long season. I also find it interesting that of the 12 turnovers 2 players are responsible for over half of them Cox(5) & Samuel (2).

As for Tebow I’d be surprised if he plays next week. Not only did he suffer a major concussion last week, but if you go back and look at a replay of UF v Tenn, he had to have suffered a mild concussion after the collision with E.Berry. They were talking about it on sports talk here in Jax how he was definitely glassy-eyed and dazed after that hit.
Your noodle is nothing to play with. I do agree that they can beat LSU without him and if I’m Meyer with 2 weeks to prepare I get Brantley ready to play.

The Miami v Oklahoma game will be interesting to watch. Did Miami go into Blacksburg over confident or are they an average team that caught GT on a bad day? How sharp will Bradford be?


September 30th, 2009
10:08 am

Didn’t Richt say this off season that penalties would be less? The guy can’t keep his word. UGA is in the same crappy boat they were last year. There will never be a change, unless this crappy boat sinks fast.


September 30th, 2009
10:09 am

McDawg– Trust me, Les Miles and LSU are not discussing Tebow this week. Miles has not beaten UGA. Miles does not like that. Something tells me this team will be more than ready for UGA.


September 30th, 2009
10:10 am

Freddy– Don’t worry, Les Miles said that this years O-Line was one of the best he had coached. Yeah, that’s the same line that allowed LSU to run for 31 net yards on 30 carries.


September 30th, 2009
10:12 am

“Tech will beat UConn in the ACC Championship game”

m, please, do explain. all that smack you like to talk and you post that?
probably just more venomous sarcasm. you puke.


September 30th, 2009
10:12 am

TB obviously someone is dropping the ball off the field as much as UGA is dropping it ON the field. The turnovers and penalties are a lack of discipline and focus. And while discipline may be the unpopular route for a coach to take, it’s also a necessary one. It’s great to be a player’s coach, but at some point there have to be consequences for actions. The penalties and turnovers are simply unacceptable… but also inexplicably unpunished (we have been talking UGA penalties since last season). At some point you have to challenge your team and make someone an example. And if the coaches aren’t doing it, the team leaders have to. If this doesn’t happen, we will be talking about the same problems for the rest of this year and the forseeable future.


September 30th, 2009
10:13 am

Knowing Meyer, he won’t leak wether or not Tebow will be his starter until game day even if he is 100% by this weekend. This will leave us with plenty of time to speculate about his condition but I guarantee you it will be kept under wraps and give the LSU coaching staff ulcers.

Waycross Dawg

September 30th, 2009
10:14 am

Does anyone know what time the Dawg Walk will begin Saturday vs LSU? I have a couple of kids going with me this weekend that have never experienced the event and want to be sure to catch it.

Paul H

September 30th, 2009
10:15 am

Considering LSU is 0-3 against UGA since Miles took over, I’m pretty sure he’s not worried about Tebow right now. I wish he was, though. It would greatly benefit UGA if LSU overlooked them this week.


September 30th, 2009
10:16 am

Georgia can beat LSU without Stafford.

Paul H

September 30th, 2009
10:17 am

Waycross – typically the Dawg Walk is approx 2 hours prior to kickoff.