Georgia is just lucky to have No. 8

 

What we learned over the weekend:

 

1. Georgia is really lucky to have No. 8: I knew the Georgia-Arizona State game was going to be ugly. After three straight tough games and with LSU coming to Athens this week, there was no way that Georgia was going to be sharp. The Bulldogs could have had an easier night, however, but the old problems of turnovers and penalties just killed them again. At the end of the evening, Georgia won the game because it had A.J. Green and Arizona State didn’t. Bill Parcels always said that football is about players making plays. Green is a great player and he made the plays that Georgia needed to win. Georgia is 3-1 and 2-0 in the SEC. That’s not a bad place to be. But there is no way the Bulldogs win Saturday if they turn it over three times.

 

2. Ole Miss was overrated: Don’t get me wrong. Ole Miss has a good team and will have a good season. But the Rebels simply did not look like a Top 10 team to me in the preseason. I wasn’t surprised Ole Miss lost at South Carolina. But I was surprised at how poorly Houston Nutt’s team played. Quarterback Jevan Snead looked confused for most of the game. You have to give a lot of the credit to the South Carolina defense, which has played lights out except for the game with Georgia. And here is an early tip. Ole Miss does not have a walkover this week when it goes to Vanderbilt.  The Commodores beat the Rebels last year in Oxford. But this is a game Ole Miss has to win with Alabama coming to Oxford on Oct. 10.

 

3.Tim Tebow is lucky that he wasn’t seriously injured:  A normal human being would have been hurt pretty badly with the shot that Tebow took in the Kentucky game. But Tebow, who is a beast in the weight room, is not a normal human being and “just” came away with a concussion. Florida can be second-guessed for having Tebow in the game throwing the ball with a 31-7 lead. But the truth is that what Florida did is consistent with what they’ve done with Tebow his entire career. ESPN can be second-guessed (and should) for showing shots of Tebow throwing up into a bag. I’m just not sure that was necessary. The ambulance shots were a little over the top as well. I spoke to several people at Florida close to the situation on Sunday and they are cautiously optimistic that Tebow will be able to play on Oct. 10, when Florida plays its next game at LSU.  The next 48 hours, I was told, will be crucial in determining how long Tebow will need to rest. But even if Tebow can’t go in Baton Rouge, Florida can still win as long as its defense keeps playing like it did against Kentucky.

 

4. Paul Johnson really knows how to coach. When a team is struggling the way Georgia Tech struggled against Miami, a coach has to do one of two things. He has to coach his players more. Or, he has to coach them less. Good coaches know which one to do based on the team. Paul Johnson realized that he and his staff were coaching Georgia Tech’s players too much after the Miami game. The players had too much to think about instead of just taking advantage of their talent. So Georgia Tech simplified the defense, demanded better execution on offense, and the result was a very impressive 24-7 win over North Carolina. All good coaches make adjustments. The really good coaches know when to turn up the heat and when to back off.

 

5. All the one-loss teams are back in the national championship race: With four Top 10 teams—Ole Miss, Miami, Penn State, and California—all losing last week you have to say that all of the one-loss teams like Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, and Southern California are back in the hunt. Look, if Alabama/Florida/L SU and Texas go undefeated, life is going to be pretty simple. An undefeated SEC champ will play an undefeated Big 12 champ.

But two of the three SEC teams in the top four have to lose because Florida plays LSU on Oct. 10 and LSU plays at Alabama on Nov. 7. And the way the first month of the season has gone (7 of the AP preseason Top 10 have already lost), you would have to says that the odds are against having two undefeated teams from the major conferences at the end of the regular season.

Yes, Boise State could go 13-0. I’ll talk about the No. 5 Broncos and their chances of getting into the big game on Tuesday. But here’s a hint: Look at the Boise State schedule and tell me if they should get in if the Broncos are the only undefeated team in the country.

 

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310 comments Add your comment

brian

September 28th, 2009
7:18 am

what about 1 loss Ohio State?

FloridaDawg

September 28th, 2009
7:26 am

Ohio State has a good band.

bigdawg01

September 28th, 2009
7:26 am

I have a bad feeling that UGA will start to unravel in the next month. Piss poor coaching and consistent turnovers are going to kill the dawgs. LSU, TN, VAND, then FL….could go 1-3 in that stretch. Coaches have to be held accountable.

#2 BAMA FAN

September 28th, 2009
7:27 am

Georgia’s defense played better but turnovers and penalties are going to get you beat and AJ Green is
the MVP of the SEC so far. Bama losing Hightower is going to hurt and hope he comes back strong next year. Tim Tebow was sick and played like a million dollars before he got hurt and hope he will be
ok for the rest of the season, ROLL TIDE!!

bigdawg01

September 28th, 2009
7:29 am

Meyer’s ego would not take Tebow out. Dont ever want to see a kid get hurt, but he never should have been in the game at that point, period. That was a brutal hit which NO FL fan would have ever seen coming especially from KY.

Tom M

September 28th, 2009
7:30 am

Boise doesn’t deserve to be in ANY conversation for a NC shot- they don’t play enough big names teams to justify it. Sorry mid-majors are mid-majors for a reason- and yes I think the Big East is a mid-major too…

DA

September 28th, 2009
7:31 am

You didnt include Miami and the fabulous Jacoby Harris in your national championship picture. Thats right because they played a real team and got CRUSHED!!!! Sports journalism remains the cushiest job in the world. You dont ever have to be right and you still get paid. Nice work if you can get it.

Jeff

September 28th, 2009
7:33 am

and here you go Gaytor Boys…..one stupid play. If I am a UF fan I am mad as H at Urban for even having Tebow in the game at that point. This is squarly on his shoulders. If not for his ego and desire to run up scores when he can, Tebow would have been out and the backup would have been playing. I HATE to see Tebow hurt- any player- but maybe just maybe Urban will think about it and get rid of his “i am god” like ego.

TB

September 28th, 2009
7:33 am

Brian,

Ohio State?! Are you kidding me? Haven’t they proven the last three years they are a paper tiger and the Big 10 is weak? Please…..go away Ohio State, beat someone of substance and then maybe you can enter BCS talk. Ohio State….I really needed a good laugh to start the week off with. Thanks Brian!

UGASlobberknocker

September 28th, 2009
7:35 am

Hey Tony if you need any tips on this weeks picks let me know. If you check your Friday blog i disagreed with you on two picks..I chose TCU and VA Techi. I also said Tech would win easily and called the Ole Miss loss to SC three weeks ago in your “Trap game” blog.

Im not braggin, im just sayin, it;s tough being so darned smart,

Joe

September 28th, 2009
7:38 am

Ahh Gators….you better hope Tebow gets well and your idiotic coach changes his mindset or your season just went up in smoke! I Wish Tebow a speedy recovery and my prayers are with him and his family- but it could not have happened to a better coach and team! Let’s see if Urban will name the score now???? Maybe he will think long and hard about things.

Joe

September 28th, 2009
7:41 am

BigDaw01- unravel????? what game were you watching you idiot?????? Defense won this one. Held AZ state at 20….blocked Field goal……WE WON!!!!Geeez…so sick and tired of lame people who call themselves fans- whineing and crying….blah blah..blah. oh were going to get killed by LSU…be lucky to win i of next 3….YOU’RE NO FAN- LOSER!

Sautee Dawg

September 28th, 2009
7:43 am

1. You are right again, no way can UGA have the turnovers it’s had this season and win against LSU.
Listened to Kevin Butler on the post game show and he stated how he was pleased his son Drew didn’t take part in the dance routine at Sanford Stadium on saturday. If your up a couple of touchdowns then ok. But when your tied 17 all it just don’t seem like a time for celebration, but a time to focus on your assignments. Dancing on the sidelines maybe on the opposite side of the field on saturday if our team turns the ball over 3 times.
2. Don’t think Ole miss was overrated Tony, just another example of Ellis Johnson’s defense coupled with playing in Columbia at night. Always a tough place to win a game.
3.Hopefully Tebow will be back in pratice this week and wil be fine. Meyer should be questioned for keeping him in the game to run up the score, although he could have just as easily gotten hurt on the 1st play of the game.
Nothing is suprising when it comes to ESPN Tony.
4.Once again Ga. Tech beats a basketball school.
5 Alabama is for real. LSU will have a hard time knocking them off the ball, same with the Gators if they meet in the Ga. Dome,

reebok

September 28th, 2009
7:44 am

Florida can and probably will beat LSU with their backup QB. IMHO, of course…

Joe

September 28th, 2009
7:46 am

Just like I told you last week, Tony, USC will find their way back to the top of the polls.

After beating pretenders like Oregon and Cal, the pollsters will decide that USC only lost to U-Dub because Barkley was not there.

It is pathetic.

Tom, Resident Georgia Fan

September 28th, 2009
7:52 am

Brian, What comedy clubs do you perform at? We all needed a good laugh now and then and you sure gave us one. BTW, ever noticed just how much Tressel resembles Mr. Rogers? His team plays like Mr. Rogers too. Haha … yes how about Ohio State plays Boise State in some minor blows and gets smoked by the Broncos.

Mikey

September 28th, 2009
7:58 am

Things that make you wonder…..

Why was the flag was picked up after the AZ ST linebacker drilled the Umpire ?

Why WAS Tebow still in the game…AND throwing a pass at that point?

Why did Bobo have a meltdown with his playcalling ? Seriously…could UGA not gain a yard when it was needed? Fullback dives are good for goal line stands only.

Logan Gray = running play and 100% of the world knows it. Try an option pass for pete’s sake. be creative…

I wonder what will happen Saturday if UGA turns the ball over 3 times?

bamafan

September 28th, 2009
8:00 am

Coaches who play guys late in the game after the result is no longer in doubt should be fired. Mike Shula cost Brodie Croyle almost all of the 2004 season when he hurt his knee in second half of game leading Western Carolina big. Tyrone Prothro broke his leg against Florida in the second half of the 2005 when tBama was up 31-3. Neither player should have been in the game. Prothro required multiple surgeries just to be able to walk. Tebow should not have been in the game. If Florida’s back-up QB is so good, don’t you think he needs some game time to stay sharp?

By the way, did anyone hear that idiot Spencer Tillman predict in the pre-game that Ryan Mallett was gonna “light up” Alabama?? What a doofus!

UGA’s post-game celebration was overdone. UGA just barely eked out a win…….yet they were acting like it was the national championship.

Ed-Covington

September 28th, 2009
8:00 am

Why do two of the top SEC schools HAVE to lose? If LSU loses both those games the Tide and Gators are still undefeated. May not be so, but the two games you mentioned don’t prove your point.

Jean Shorts

September 28th, 2009
8:03 am

1.Meyer had Tebow in because he is all that FL has on offense…2.Meyer was embarrased that they only scored 23 on TN. Couldn’t have been his fault…3.Guess its time for another speech with tears…i.e Meyer after LSU\Tebow after Ole Miss…

I will give Tebow all of the credit on the field…maybe best ever…but I am sick and tired of all of the off field crap….

Ed-Covington

September 28th, 2009
8:07 am

If you had mentioned the SEC Championship game, then your point is well taken. The Tide and Gators will probably meet again and the winner (who knows who?) will go to the NC game.

SatchelBuzz

September 28th, 2009
8:08 am

Sautee,….Ole Miss was WAY overrated. USC east is an average team,..nothing more. And to the loser wearing the ugag shirt and VT hat at Bobby Dodd on Saturday,…glad you were able to witness the dominating performance by the Jackets. Owned.

THWG!!!

Ed-Covington

September 28th, 2009
8:08 am

Also thought the ambulance scenes were too much.

saddawg

September 28th, 2009
8:08 am

Do college players have to be officially cleared from a concussion like the nfl before playing again?

Yes the Georgia defense did play a lot better this past weekend, but they are a broken record, same story different verse. If they play like they have so far, they will lose to lsu.

Peadawg

September 28th, 2009
8:08 am

“what about 1 loss Ohio State?” AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Who wants to see Ohio State Blackeyes get beat by 20 points in the BSCS championship game again? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

m

September 28th, 2009
8:10 am

Tony, what a crock blog. Why don’t you point out how idiotic the polls are week after week after week??

They are not even really upsets…just games that show how stupid the polls are.

And you keep it up hook, line and sinker.

We need a 16 team playoff and we need it now.

And we don’t need idiots like Tony telling us (wrongly) who is good and who isn’t. Only the results ON THE FIELD should matter.

Not what the IDIOTIC pollsters think.

David

September 28th, 2009
8:13 am

Forget about Boise State… look at Houston. I’d put Houston in before Boise State due to their wins over Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and possibly Miss St next week if they run the table.

GW

September 28th, 2009
8:16 am

I hope media coverage of Tebow’s concussion does not turn into the Michael Jackson funeral. I wonder if Meyer would have stayed at the hospital if it were a 2nd string left guard with a concussion.

Cuzzin Vinnie

September 28th, 2009
8:17 am

BigDawg01 – you should probably take Joe to the woodshed for talking to you like that. He’s the one that a loser.

m

September 28th, 2009
8:21 am

Tony,

The ACC went 6-4 against the SEC last year.

Florida State outplayed South Florida.

Clemson should have beaten TCU.

Maryland beat Jimmy Madison.

Thank God & Greyhound we do not play Willian & Mary.

Mark

September 28th, 2009
8:26 am

Enter your comments here
Green is a really good receiver, but you have to wonder why the refs did not call offensive interferrence on the catch at the end of the gave. Green was pushing the db off for the last 10 yards, yet no flag. Should have not been a catch and gone to overtime – it was a gift.

Mark

September 28th, 2009
8:28 am

Enter your comments here
And another thing – the classy UGA fans were cheering when Tebow went down with the injury. Pitiful.

Eric

September 28th, 2009
8:33 am

Polls are like beauty contests, you can vote for anyone you like. If you’re friendly with the head coach, vote for his team! If the brain tumors decide they want Boise St in the game, they’ll be there. m finally made a valid point. WDE!!!

Gen Neyland

September 28th, 2009
8:34 am

For the most part, a third of the season is behind us. While there is still a lot of football to play the fuzzy picture is getting clearer around the edges. Most of us made predictions that have have gone either north or south on the ‘I know what I’m talking about’ scale. Being a man of honor from the great state of Tennessee, here are two of the ones I’ve been sacked on TO DATE : “UGA won’t have the luxury of an offense that can outscore their defense in 2009 like they had in 2008″…”Alabama’s gonna miss John Bubba Parker Wilson”…Least I can do is fess up.

12 & 21

September 28th, 2009
8:36 am

Where are all those clowns that thought Ark would put up a lot of points on Bama? Just remember ladies that waswn’t the bulldawg D that Mallet was facing. It was a real team that plays big boy football every week!!

athensdawg

September 28th, 2009
8:38 am

Tony Barnhart says…
“Good coaches know which one to do based on the team. All good coaches make adjustments. The really good coaches know when to turn up the heat and when to back off.”

Mark Richt says….
“I have an infallable system. If the players execute my system and gameplan we will win. If not, we will lose – and we will just continue with the system because in the end, we win more games than we lose, and therefore, it must be working

Lane

September 28th, 2009
8:44 am

Wait until “Crazy Ed’s”, recruits are no longer in the Ole Miss system – people will realize that Nutt is average @ best!!!

Excusez-moi

September 28th, 2009
8:44 am

The basketball school was ranked one spot behind UGA. Did UGA actually beat a ranked team this year so far?Thought so. Go Jackets!

bamafan

September 28th, 2009
8:45 am

M – lay off the “ACC was 6-4 against the SEC last year.” You have already been told that this stat is meaningless for this year. Appears that it is the only decent stat you know. Poor ACC red headed stepchildren.

joe

September 28th, 2009
8:49 am

and Urban “isn’t playing to impress the pollsters” or so he said after the TN game. he continues to abuse Tebow and continues to risk this guys career. One person, even as strong and gifted as Tebow, cannot be rode this hard. Urban should get hammered by the press.

Jeff

September 28th, 2009
8:52 am

Tony- sleep with your LSU/FLA/Bama Tamdum- I would not count out some other SEC teams as well that can hand your “favorites” a loss as well. Like I said when it all started- plenty of sportswriters will have crow shoved down their throats by the end of the season……and I for one will be LMAO! Sneak peek last weekend- you see all it takes is Urban’s Ego of trying to run up scores and one simple play for UF’s season to go up in smoke.

gdawginkalamazoo

September 28th, 2009
8:53 am

I hope Tebow has a speedy recovery. Prays out to him and his family. The thing with concussions is that they tend to come about easier the 2nd and 3rd time around. Ask Troy Aikman. I don’t think Tebow can come back and take (and give) the pounding like he has been. This isn’t like a sore shoulder or twisted ankle etc this injury is a lot more serious than that.

God bless A J Green. Also, Drew Butler and Blair Walsh. It appears that we do have a couple great kickers for the next two and 1/2 years.

Congrats to Matt Stafford on a great game Sunday. Hope he continues to adjust and find his groove (and Calvin).

mightyKC

September 28th, 2009
8:55 am

heard comments from tons of folks in different places (atlanta, tallahassee) that fans were LOUDLY CHEERING and high fiving when Tebow went down and didn’t get up. overheard: “oh, looks like he’s human afterall!”, “i hope he never gets up!”, etc.

stay classy dawgs and noles!

Tony, I think your point about tebow being in is very debateable…easy to say from behind a typewriter, but FL had not scored in over a quarter and a half, and if brantley stalls on that drive, UK has a chance to cut it to 17 w/ still a quarter and a half left, ON THE ROAD.

case in point, UT game. Tebow fumbles, Tenn drives down the field, its now a 10 pt game (instead of a 24 pt game). i know it’s easy especially for rival fans, to try to blame meyer here, but NO TEAM would have pulled it’s starter that early…one more score, and then yes, in all liklihood most teams would have.

Jeff

September 28th, 2009
9:01 am

Mark- your comments about UGA fans cheering when Tebow went down- not sure what fans you are referring to orr who you hang with but I can assure you the large group I was around did no cheering nor would any true fan of college football no matter what team. Bottom line- this is on Urbans shoulders- he was exposed this weekend for trying to run the score up and it cost a guy for it. Who know what problems Tebow will have down the line in life because of that concussion. Urban Meyer should be taken to task by the true UF fans and media. Thank God my son does not play for a jerk like him.

Andre "Pulpwood" Smith

September 28th, 2009
9:01 am

Oh Tony, please stop with the “Tebow is Superman” nonsense. I’ll bet that any doctor would tell you that Tebow’s work in the weight room had absolutely nothing to do whether he wasseriously injured by the hit on Saturday. Are you seriously saying that hard work in the weight room reduces the chances of a concussion?

Jeff

September 28th, 2009
9:06 am

Mighty KC- funny that you only call out “fans in Atlanta and Tally” as cheering- tell me, were you there- both places? Hmmm…sounds like crap from a UF fan to me. Lets be very clear. NO ONE who is a true college football fan would EVER cheer a player from ANY school laying on the field after a hit like that. Screw the rivalrys. Some of us have kids that play this game JUST like Mr. and Mrs. Tebow do. How narrow minded of you to lump all into whatever idiots you are talking about. I can assure you that our thoughts and prayers were with Tim Tebow and his parents from that moment on.

CharlotteGator

September 28th, 2009
9:07 am

I tend to agree with mightyKC. Tebow being in the game wasn’t that egregious to me. Typically in games like that against SEC schools, the Gators pull starters at the beginning of the 4th. I wanna say there were 4 minutes or so left in the third and it was the Gators 2nd or 3rd possession of the half. It didn’t seem very blatant to me. Other schools leave kids in like that all the time and nothing is mentioned.

As far as ‘running Tebow to death’ it wasn’t like they were running bull rush dives play after play. On the option running plays (which is a lot of what was run), UK employed the UT strategy of take away the pitch man and give Tebow 5-10 yards as opposed to Demps or Rainey getting 30-40. You could see Tebow and Demps smiling at each other and talking about how they kept taking Demps away. Almost as if Tebow felt bad he couldn’t get him the pitch. I’d guess Tebow averaged 6-7 yards a carry given the longer gains he was getting in the option plays. Also, the injury happened when he fell into his lineman’s knee. The sack hit was a good one, but nothing different than what LSU, Bama, or UGA deliver. Hindsight is 20/20 but he didn’t get hurt on a run. It was an unlucky injury that he’ll hopefully not suffer long term with.

That said, I will be disappointed if he’s rushed back to early. I’d rather take an LSU loss than risk playing the kid too early.

Also a little disappointed in some of the reaction. To many friends/rival fans reveling in the injury and doing the whole “I’m know a UK fan” song and dance. Sad to say the least…

Gravy Train

September 28th, 2009
9:09 am

For all of you Tech fans calling S Carolina average and talking of results on the field, just what in blazes do you think your team is? What do results on the field say about your league?

Your team is a mirror image of your league, average or worse and lucky to have any ranked teams. VaTech has been carrying the ACC for as long as they’ve been members and even they have trouble being more than above average.
Go play a night game in Columbia and see how it ends up. You couldn’t even win in Miami against a very mediocre, overhyped Miami team.

If your players are so darn smart, then why are the coaches having to simplify things for them?

Jeff Greissinger

September 28th, 2009
9:15 am

Was it just me or was the coverage of Tebow’s “hit” equivalant to the coverage of say…the President getting shot?! I mean, come on! You can’t tell me that if some lineman suffers the same kind of injury that Urban Meyer would be in the stands talking to the lineman’s parents! Tebow is a great talent, but why does the press fall over themselves to cover him?

rok dawg

September 28th, 2009
9:15 am

Tony:

Why was Tebow still in the game? Shouldn’t Meyer have been getting Brantley ready for next year? I know Meyer wants the kid to win the trophy again, but I think he showed a shocking lack of judgement.

Also, unless Florida has a brain lifting machine, how does being a “beast in the weight room” help Tebow avoid brain damage?

Let’s be honest – the kid, and his coach, were lucky. Hopefully Meyer learned a valuable lesson.