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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Samoys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samoys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AU</title>
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		<dc:creator>AU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TrueCrimson, 
Should have been 9 in 1966 huh? I&#039;m thinking more like #2. I guess using the Bamer logic, they should have given it to you guys again. Wasn&#039;t the &quot;little sister&#039;s of the poor&quot; poll available that year to claim? Here&#039;s a list of 1965 and prior 8 &quot;championships&quot;...

1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 - 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 - Current.

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!

1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .

1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TrueCrimson,<br />
Should have been 9 in 1966 huh? I&#8217;m thinking more like #2. I guess using the Bamer logic, they should have given it to you guys again. Wasn&#8217;t the &#8220;little sister&#8217;s of the poor&#8221; poll available that year to claim? Here&#8217;s a list of 1965 and prior 8 &#8220;championships&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.<br />
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 &#8211; 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 &#8211; Current.</p>
<p>1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!</p>
<p>1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!</p>
<p>1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!</p>
<p>1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!</p>
<p>1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .</p>
<p>1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.</p>
<p>1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.</p>
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		<title>By: Saint Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saint Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me an idiot but can someone help me find my beloved team in the Top 25- I know they were there just last week but now I cant find them</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(((((((((((LMAO TECH OUT of POLL))))))))))))))))))))))))))</description>
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		<title>By: TrueCrimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrueCrimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord of The Lizards 5:05 pm

I’m not upset at all that the 5TH IN A ROW over the Vols was a struggle….I’ll take 5 more like that RIGHT NOW.


LoL,

Back in 1966 (AKA shoulda been NC-9), Bama defeated Tennessee by a score of 11-10. In 1990 the score was 9-6. There have been some close scores in the series and several ties. The first game in the series ended in a 6-6 tie. A win is a win. Some of those close wins were the best ones.

Hm. Found a wiki link on the 1966 season -- brings back some memories.

The 1966 college football season was marked by controversy as the year of &quot;The Tie&quot;, a November 19 game between the two top-ranked teams, Michigan State and Notre Dame. Neither team participated in a post-season bowl game. At the same time, 1966 was the first year that the professional football season would end with a Super Bowl. During the 20th Century, the NCAA had no playoff for the college football teams that would later be described as &quot;Division I-A&quot;. The NCAA Football Guide, however, did note an &quot;unofficial national champion&quot; based on the top ranked teams in the &quot;wire service&quot; (AP and UPI) polls.

The &quot;writers&#039; poll&quot; by Associated Press (AP) was the most popular, followed by the &quot;coaches&#039; poll&quot; by United Press International) (UPI). In 1966, both services issued their final polls at the close of the regular season, but before teams competed in bowl games. The Associated Press presented the &quot;AP Trophy&quot; to the winner.

The AP poll in 1966 consisted of the votes of as many as 63 sportswriters, though not all of them voted in every poll. Those who cast votes would give their opinion of the ten best teams. Under a point system of 10 points for first place, 9 for second, etc., the &quot;overall&quot; ranking was determined. In the preseason poll for 1966, Alabama was slightly ahead of Michigan State in first place votes (15 vs. 12) and points.

The American Broadcasting Company began showing College football on television in color this season. By the NCAA rules, only 8 national and 5 regional telecasts were allowed during the season.

1966 College Football Season
Total # of Teams: 120
Preseason AP #1: Alabama
Number of Bowls: 9
Champions: Michigan State &amp; Notre Dame(split title) 
Heisman: Steve Spurrier, Florida QB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord of The Lizards 5:05 pm</p>
<p>I’m not upset at all that the 5TH IN A ROW over the Vols was a struggle….I’ll take 5 more like that RIGHT NOW.</p>
<p>LoL,</p>
<p>Back in 1966 (AKA shoulda been NC-9), Bama defeated Tennessee by a score of 11-10. In 1990 the score was 9-6. There have been some close scores in the series and several ties. The first game in the series ended in a 6-6 tie. A win is a win. Some of those close wins were the best ones.</p>
<p>Hm. Found a wiki link on the 1966 season &#8212; brings back some memories.</p>
<p>The 1966 college football season was marked by controversy as the year of &#8220;The Tie&#8221;, a November 19 game between the two top-ranked teams, Michigan State and Notre Dame. Neither team participated in a post-season bowl game. At the same time, 1966 was the first year that the professional football season would end with a Super Bowl. During the 20th Century, the NCAA had no playoff for the college football teams that would later be described as &#8220;Division I-A&#8221;. The NCAA Football Guide, however, did note an &#8220;unofficial national champion&#8221; based on the top ranked teams in the &#8220;wire service&#8221; (AP and UPI) polls.</p>
<p>The &#8220;writers&#8217; poll&#8221; by Associated Press (AP) was the most popular, followed by the &#8220;coaches&#8217; poll&#8221; by United Press International) (UPI). In 1966, both services issued their final polls at the close of the regular season, but before teams competed in bowl games. The Associated Press presented the &#8220;AP Trophy&#8221; to the winner.</p>
<p>The AP poll in 1966 consisted of the votes of as many as 63 sportswriters, though not all of them voted in every poll. Those who cast votes would give their opinion of the ten best teams. Under a point system of 10 points for first place, 9 for second, etc., the &#8220;overall&#8221; ranking was determined. In the preseason poll for 1966, Alabama was slightly ahead of Michigan State in first place votes (15 vs. 12) and points.</p>
<p>The American Broadcasting Company began showing College football on television in color this season. By the NCAA rules, only 8 national and 5 regional telecasts were allowed during the season.</p>
<p>1966 College Football Season<br />
Total # of Teams: 120<br />
Preseason AP #1: Alabama<br />
Number of Bowls: 9<br />
Champions: Michigan State &amp; Notre Dame(split title)<br />
Heisman: Steve Spurrier, Florida QB</p>
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		<title>By: Perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey,

What do you want? A freaking pat on the back? Aint you jes the bright one know it all. I think your bs myself. Joe Cox also threw against the statistically worst defense in the sec last year and one of the worst in the country, especially against the pass. What you got to say? Crickets. Chirp Chirp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikey,</p>
<p>What do you want? A freaking pat on the back? Aint you jes the bright one know it all. I think your bs myself. Joe Cox also threw against the statistically worst defense in the sec last year and one of the worst in the country, especially against the pass. What you got to say? Crickets. Chirp Chirp</p>
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		<title>By: Eric C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perspective from a Dawg fan...after reading the article about the Gators flu scare, I&#039;m thinking Meyer is a moron.  How do you let Demps play with a 101 fever and let him freaking infect the rest of the team?  I&#039;m sure it was interesting in the huddle...did Demps have a mask on?  Sneeze, cough, vomit...oops, sorry guys.  Oh, darn Tim, I hope you didn&#039;t just drink from my cup!  He played like &amp;*&amp;% as it was and didn&#039;t help the team...what a freaking stupid move!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perspective from a Dawg fan&#8230;after reading the article about the Gators flu scare, I&#8217;m thinking Meyer is a moron.  How do you let Demps play with a 101 fever and let him freaking infect the rest of the team?  I&#8217;m sure it was interesting in the huddle&#8230;did Demps have a mask on?  Sneeze, cough, vomit&#8230;oops, sorry guys.  Oh, darn Tim, I hope you didn&#8217;t just drink from my cup!  He played like &amp;*&amp;% as it was and didn&#8217;t help the team&#8230;what a freaking stupid move!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back on page one I called my shot with USCw losing to Washington.
I also made big money on the FL-TENN game as the 30 point spread was way too much considering what we saw out of the Gators was against JV teams prior to Saturday.

My Dawgs need some pass D - cannot have these shootouts every week...

BTW, anyone still think Cox can&#039;t throw the deep ball? Anyone? Anyone?
Bueller ?  ......crickets........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back on page one I called my shot with USCw losing to Washington.<br />
I also made big money on the FL-TENN game as the 30 point spread was way too much considering what we saw out of the Gators was against JV teams prior to Saturday.</p>
<p>My Dawgs need some pass D &#8211; cannot have these shootouts every week&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW, anyone still think Cox can&#8217;t throw the deep ball? Anyone? Anyone?<br />
Bueller ?  &#8230;&#8230;crickets&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Da dawg pound</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da dawg pound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord of the Lizards,

I wouldn&#039;t call it a blueprint for beating the gators but the fact of the matter is that the Vols outphysicaled Florida at the point of attack on both sides of the ball. They constantly gashed the interior Florida D between the tackles with power football. On the opposite side Florida was able to get good yardage running the ball on the edge sometimes but they could not run effectively against the interior of the Vol defense. They pushed you guys around a lot and the only time you stopped their power running was when you put 8 guys in the box. UT has virtually no vertical passing game and that is why you won. 

We have a better O-line than UT and a much stouter interior D with Owens and Weston than UT and better overall depth and talent. If UT manhandled you then we would have done the same. The difference is that we have a vertical passing game as evidenced in the Ark game. Our pass D needs a lot of shoring up but Tebow isn&#039;t exactly a pro style qb now is he? Ryan Mallet is leading the nation in passing efficiency and will be a surefire pro qb. Tebow is not pro material and just can&#039;t make the same throws that Mallet made against us and Arky is better than you think, at least offensively anyway. My money say that they give the bammers a tough time next week also. 

Seems like your guys got a little soft, a little complacent during the offseason with Brandon Spikes coming into the season 10 lbs overweight as an example. 

Before you annoint yourselves another title you better think about the way UT pushed you around with no passing game. Even if you get by us and win the east you got problems. The bammers are looking powerful with both their D, their qb, and their O-line which was supposed to be their weakness. If you had played them yesterday instead of UT they would ground you into hamburger and beat the living hell out of you. You know it, da dawg pound here knows it, and unfortunately for you the bammers probably now know it. 

This one game against the vols proves you aint all that even if you did win. We&#039;ve taken note of this and so has the rest of the conference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord of the Lizards,</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call it a blueprint for beating the gators but the fact of the matter is that the Vols outphysicaled Florida at the point of attack on both sides of the ball. They constantly gashed the interior Florida D between the tackles with power football. On the opposite side Florida was able to get good yardage running the ball on the edge sometimes but they could not run effectively against the interior of the Vol defense. They pushed you guys around a lot and the only time you stopped their power running was when you put 8 guys in the box. UT has virtually no vertical passing game and that is why you won. </p>
<p>We have a better O-line than UT and a much stouter interior D with Owens and Weston than UT and better overall depth and talent. If UT manhandled you then we would have done the same. The difference is that we have a vertical passing game as evidenced in the Ark game. Our pass D needs a lot of shoring up but Tebow isn&#8217;t exactly a pro style qb now is he? Ryan Mallet is leading the nation in passing efficiency and will be a surefire pro qb. Tebow is not pro material and just can&#8217;t make the same throws that Mallet made against us and Arky is better than you think, at least offensively anyway. My money say that they give the bammers a tough time next week also. </p>
<p>Seems like your guys got a little soft, a little complacent during the offseason with Brandon Spikes coming into the season 10 lbs overweight as an example. </p>
<p>Before you annoint yourselves another title you better think about the way UT pushed you around with no passing game. Even if you get by us and win the east you got problems. The bammers are looking powerful with both their D, their qb, and their O-line which was supposed to be their weakness. If you had played them yesterday instead of UT they would ground you into hamburger and beat the living hell out of you. You know it, da dawg pound here knows it, and unfortunately for you the bammers probably now know it. </p>
<p>This one game against the vols proves you aint all that even if you did win. We&#8217;ve taken note of this and so has the rest of the conference.</p>
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