Saban has been a bargain for Alabama

 

When Nick Saban signed his unprecedented eight-year, $32 million contract to be the head coach at Alabama, I told some friends that there would come a day when that deal would look like a bargain.

That day, as it turns out, is today.

Saban just signed a three-year contract extension which, if he stays for its entirety, will keep him in Tuscaloosa through the 2017 season. That’s nine more years.

The contract extension should have been longer. In fact, the school should have offered him a lifetime deal.

I’m serious.

Here’s why: When Alabama was struggling to a 6-7 (2-6 SEC) finish in Mike Shula’s final season (2006), some of my Crimson Tide friends were simply dumbfounded. They simply did not understand why a school with Alabama’s tradition and resources, which are considerable, should be in this position.

And they had a point. It is tough to compete for the SEC championship every season because the league is so good and, with the 85-scholarship limit, programs are going to have some ups and downs from time to time.

But Alabama should never be BAD in the sport of football.

The reality is that as long as Nick Saban is the head coach, Alabama will never be bad. The Crimson Tide may not be at the top of the SEC West every single season, but this team will never embarrass its fans for not being competitive. And you can’t say that about a lot of football programs.

Yeah, Saban can be a bit of a control freak. He gets annoyed by the media’s obsession with minutiae which, of course, simply reflects the interest of the fan base. If you want to talk X’s and O’s and he has the time, Saban will talk all day. He loves to talk about football. It’s the warm and fuzzy stuff that he has no time for.

But, quite candidly, you have to be a control freak if you’re going to be the head coach at Alabama. Because, as I’ve said many times, Alabama’s greatest strength as a football program is also its greatest weakness:

The fans care so much.

For 25 years Alabama’s football spoke with only one voice and that was the familiar growl of Paul “Bear” Bryant (1958-82). Even when Alabama wasn’t winning, and that wasn’t often under Coach Bryant, there was no dissention because there was never any doubt about who was in charge.

It has taken Alabama 25 years since his death in 1983 to find another coach strong enough to hold the various factions of the Crimson Tide family together and keep everybody on task. Gene Stallings (1990-96) did it for a while, winning 70 games in even seasons.  But even he had to fight to exert control over the program and all of its moving parts.

As Saban prepares to bring Alabama to Atlanta to play Virginia Tech in Saturday’s Chick-fil-A College Kickoff, he is in TOTAL control of the Crimson Tide football program and virtually anything that comes into contact with it. Let’s assess what has happened since he arrived in Tuscaloosa in January of 2007:

**–Alabama has won the SEC’s West division and has played in the conference championship game.

**–Alabama started the 2008 season 12-0 and rose to the nation’s No. 1 ranking. Last December Alabama was one quarter away from playing for the national championship.

**–Alabama, despite losing its starting quarterback and three starters on the offensive line, is picked to win the SEC West and is in just about everybody’s preseason Top 10.

**–For the second year Saban has agreed to play in the Chick-fil-A College Kickoff, which is giving the program day-long national TV exposure and making further inroads to recruiting in the state of Georgia (much to the chagrin of the programs at Georgia and Georgia Tech).

**–An Auburn program that had beaten Alabama six straight times now has a new head coach and an uncertain future. Saban and his staff are pretty much in control of the state when it comes to recruiting.

And all that has happened in just two seasons.

The point is, Saban was hired at Alabama to accomplish two major tasks: To unite a fan base and to make the Crimson Tide relevant again on the national stage. Logically, a job like that should take several years. Saban did it in year No. 2.

Like him or not, you have to admit the man can coach. And if you pull for another SEC school, you have to admit that as long as Saban is in Tuscaloosa, the Crimson Tide will never be bad and most of the time will be very, very good.

That’s why Alabama officials have approved an $80 million expansion that will bring seating at Bryant-Denny Stadium from 92,138 to over 101,000, starting with the 2010 season. Is there any doubt that those seats, which include 36 luxury skyboxes, are going to be sold faster than you can say “Roll Tide?”

They will generate untold millions. That’s why if you’re a Crimson Tide fan, you better give this guy whatever he wants. He has been a bargain for your school.

 

 

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Sam Robards, Dawg Fan

September 1st, 2009
10:26 am

Yeah, Saban’s a good coach, but his first year at Bama ended with them going only winning six games, if I recall correctly. They also lost to Louisiana-Monroe. Let that sink in for a minute.

Don’t get me wrong: they had a good year last year, but it wasn’t fantastic. However, I think Saban’ll get them to maintain the high bar they set last year, and he seems to suit the Alabama environment and mindset very well. Smart move by Bama.

Grene Chizik

September 1st, 2009
10:27 am

I am not scared or Nick. I am not scared of Nick. I am not scared of Nick. Okay, maybe a little.

Just the Facts

September 1st, 2009
10:31 am

Got 12= Saban boot licker.

Got 12?

September 1st, 2009
10:31 am

If this blog existed back when Dubose was coaching Bama, I would have been just a pissed as most of you guys. I understand your pain. Besides Bama fans, the only civil ones here are the UF fans. They’re the only other optimist group on today’s blog.

Let go of the anger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvgMIerTXl4

Atlanta Gator

September 1st, 2009
10:36 am

sact—-The Gators have certainly won their share over the last 19 seasons. Of course, the Gators had some making up to do for the beatings they took in the 1930s, 40s, 50s and 70s. As for “jealousy,” well, there’s certainly no need for that.

Sure, I’d love to see the Gators win everything every year . . . but after the Pell/Hall mess in the 1980s, I would settle for my team being competitive and my alma mater running an honest sports program. At the end of the day, the integrity of the institution is more important than another championship. I never want to see the University of Florida mentioned in the same sentence with the words “institutional control” ever again, and I know that most Florida alumni of my generation feel exactly the same way.

Sam Robards, Dawg Fan

September 1st, 2009
10:44 am

Two additional points:

1. I don’t think Saban would make the mistake of going to the NFL again. Some coaches are college coaches, and others are NFL coaches. Saban’s a college coach, and I think he knows that now.

2. Mark Richt is fabulous, and I wouldn’t trade him for Saban, Meyer, Johnson or anyone else.

CharlotteGator

September 1st, 2009
10:45 am

Just the Facts,

I hope you’re kidding with the following:

“Meyer has gotten lucky in his first few years at the school. Without superman Tebow does anybody really think the gators would have been as sucessful as they have been. Lets see what they do once boy wonder graduates”

I’d like to avoid the full-on rant with this one, but this could be said about any school in the country, any time they have success, and any time they have great players. This is tired and poor logic that doesn’t really do much to further the discussion on here which is usually pretty good and intelligent football banter.

Of course, if you’d like to debate your Meyer/UF statements and conclusions, fire away, I’d be more than happy to oblige.

Atlanta Gator

September 1st, 2009
10:47 am

Just the Facts—-Give the Devil his due, man. Urban Meyer won a national championship in his second year at Florida (2006), and the starting quarterback was NOT Tim Tebow, sports fan. This fall will be Meyer’s ninth season as a head coach, and he has never posted a losing record, either in-conference or overall. His eight teams to date have a collective record of 83-17 (or .830). He has won four conference championships (2 MWC, 2 SEC), and two BCS national championships.

I will give you the fact that a coach and team have to be a “little bit lucky” to play for a BCS championship, let alone win one. But Meyer’s record to date indicates that he is not “lucky,” just a damn fine coach whose teams may have been lucky to be in a position to play for it all twice. BTW, I would also argue that Florida’s defense had as much to do with the Gators’ 2008 championship as Tebow did, don’t you agree? Is a great defense a function of “luck?”

BJohnDawg

September 1st, 2009
10:50 am

Saban is a good coach and Bama is fortunate to have him as HC. Has turned that program around in 2 years. I see him there for years to come, has found a home, and Alabama to be a team to reckon with year in and year out.

GOD Love SEC football.Come on Thursday Night!
And on Saturday….GO DAWGS!

Gator Fan

September 1st, 2009
10:50 am

Q: Why don’t Gator fans eat M&Ms?

A: They’re too hard to peel.

gatorman770

September 1st, 2009
10:50 am

Not as good a bargain as the Gators got with Urban Meyer!

The truth is the SEC has the best coaches of any conference.

Just the Facts

September 1st, 2009
10:51 am

Charlotte Gator. I make it a point to not debate someone with a mullett and wears jean shorts. If Florida plays Alabama this year in the SEC Championship game I’ll put my money on BAMA. I’ll enjoy watching Meyer & Tebow cry and thinking about you crying your heart out in Charlotte.

Atlanta Gator

September 1st, 2009
10:51 am

G8R GRAD—-In quoting me, you have clearly demonstrated a momentary lapse of reason. I wish you were here to share a pint and some gob, but you might not like it here on the dark side of the moon.

Gen Neyland

September 1st, 2009
11:09 am

Saban, Meyer, Miles, Richt. The order is optional but these are the SEC’s best coaches going into 2009. Got 12, even a henpecked chicken from USC East knows the afore mentioned are top drawer. It’s just football trash-talk, not a health care debate…

Please note the absence of BumbleBee fans. Dragon*Con is coming to town and one must be prepared..!

Atlanta Gator

September 1st, 2009
11:10 am

Gen Neyland—-As the recent “text books for free” scandal shows, a program requires more people focused on NCAA compliance than just the head coach. The university and the athletic department have to demand and expect integrity from their coaches and players. Frankly, I’ve never understood the “Saban is a dirtball” talk; most of it is from disgruntled LSU and Dolphins fans who were angry that he left, and some other angry people who are just looking for an opportunity to rabbit-punch Alabama.

If Bama’s coaches, players and alumni can keep their noses clean, Saban will bring them some SEC championships and maybe something more. If not, and the program experiences more NCAA infractions, they will have no one to blame but themselves, and the SEC will be poorer for it.

buck

September 1st, 2009
11:10 am

Isn’t bama on probation?

G8R GRAD

September 1st, 2009
11:17 am

Atlanta Gator:

Momentary lapse, or not, a pint sounds good!
But, my wife is speaking at a Rotary meeting and duty calls.

Atlanta Gator

September 1st, 2009
11:18 am

“Gator Fan”—-Why peel’em at all? I prefer my peanuts with the chocolate on.

Atlanta Gator

September 1st, 2009
11:19 am

G8R GRAD—-Yeah, buddy. Have fun with that. LOL

Atlanta Gator

September 1st, 2009
11:24 am

Just the Facts—-We need to work on those anger issues, don’t we?

BTW, I don’t have enough hair left for mullet and I have never owned nor worn a pair of “jorts.” Will you debate me, or would you prefer to keep talking to yourself?

G8R GRAD

September 1st, 2009
11:25 am

Rubberry chicken and square carrots, here I come!

CharlotteGator

September 1st, 2009
11:35 am

Just the Facts,

Clearly you’ve put me in my place with your uber-original wit and humor. You win the internet tough guy award for the day. Congrats. What was I thinking challenging an intellectual giant as yourself to an actual debate which is obviously not the point of this blog.

I give you credit though, by hiding your allegiance, you’ve accomplished two great things:

1) you’ve not opened yourself up to tired elementary school name calling from opposing/rival fans
2) you’ve managed to not reflect poorly on the school you support and may or may not have attended

And by the way, if and/or when the Gators lose this season or any future seasons, I can promise you crying is not in my immediate future nor is thinking about other fans crying over game results. There are more important things in this world and in life than university affiliated football teams composed of 18-22 yr. olds.

HH

September 1st, 2009
12:10 pm

Looks like Coach Overpaid is going to be fighting Les for #3 in the SEC, if he’s lucky, and that ain’t no sure thing, if Urban and Saban continue to hang around. If your a GA fan, I guess you might as well get used to it.

Just the Facts

September 1st, 2009
12:14 pm

Charlotte Gator and Atlanta Gator a match made in heaven. You two are perfect. Everything you say should be taken by all as the gospel truth.I can tell by your blogs that both of you think you are quite the intellects.The way you talk down to others with a different opinion than yours. You two wouldn’t know a good football team or coach if it bit you in the a$$. But thats OK….what goes up must come down and Florida will fall eventually and you two will be right there together making excuses,pointing fingers and offering your opinions.Typical Florida fans.

catfish suppa

September 1st, 2009
12:14 pm

does Saban have false teeth-what does he do with that mouth when the dentures are out-just curious?

Johnny DangerDawg

September 1st, 2009
12:15 pm

Tony,
I think Nick Saban is a good coach. However, you said yourself that Alabama SHOULD be able to win with their resources. Therefore, other (cheaper) coaches could probably make Alabama a winner. Saban is overpaid.

Got 12?

September 1st, 2009
12:24 pm

Johnny,

Other cheaper coaches would not have drawn the media attention or increased revenue as dramatically and quickly as Saban has. When you watch any of the ESPN networks leading up to this weekend’s game’s commercials, who do you see? Whose GameDay commercial is running right now. (I won’t mention the magazine covers (e.g. Forbes))

Got 12?

September 1st, 2009
12:27 pm

Why was I redirected to an ad for the AJC in the middle of typing my post?

Gen Neyland

September 1st, 2009
12:59 pm

Atlanta Gator : Your post above reminded me of the Dire Straits lyrics, ‘Money for nothing and books for free’, oh wait, that’s chicks for free and that’s another programs problem…You down in Gatorville this week..?

Bamafan

September 1st, 2009
1:11 pm

It is funny reading the interesting things that gators fans and dawg fans have to say to one another. I know want dislike and hate are for Auburn and UcheaT. Gators and dawgs fans which i am included
get a long pretty good most of the time. I did see something on youtube that was classy for the vols
band to play the rivals fight song welcoming them to Neyland Stadium before the game started. If Alabama’s band played Rocky Top the band director would be fired on the spot. ROLL TIDE FOLKS!!

CharlotteGator

September 1st, 2009
1:11 pm

Just the Facts,

In my mind, there’s only one gospel truth and its most definitely not what I say, nor is it the point of this blog…well maybe on Fearless Fridays along with politics and pot legalization :)

I try to only talk down to people who come on this blog to bash others and play anonymous internet tough guy with no real intention of talking football or making points. But since you’re so concerned with facts, please point out anyone I have talked down to that’s outside of the category above and I will be more than happy to apologize and admit fault.

As far as not knowing a good football team or coach when I see one, I think UF has both now (along with UGA, LSU, Bama, and Ole Miss), but by all means feel free to elaborate on why you think I’m wrong and I’ll counter with my thoughts and opinions. Welcome to an adult conversation.

bamaman

September 1st, 2009
1:12 pm

every body read this article about the top 10 college football programs of all time….has Alabama #1 and usc number 4…michigan number 5? what a joke….http://sportstime.sportsblognet.com/2009/08/31/the-top-ten-list-greatest-college-football-programs-of-all-time/

Realistic Bama Fan

September 1st, 2009
1:24 pm

Honestly, I think we benefited from a down SEC last year. However, we did finish the regular season 12-0. Bama just didn’t have the weapons to compete with Florida that has established themselves as a top 5 program. Meyer is a great coach and is stockpiling talent. Coach Saban has worked hard in recruiting the talent to building the same depth that Florida has established. As far as the Utah game, we just didn’t show up. Utah wanted it more and there is no question about it we just weren’t ready to play. Call it SEC championship game hangover or call it outcoached, but I honestly did not expect along with many others for Bama to even be in a BCS game last year.

As far as my expectations for this year and years to come, I believe Coach Saban is definitely the right guy for our university. He has revitalized the football program and the campus that has been dead over the past 10 years. Each fan base has its share of nuts and we are no exception. Do I think we will go undefeated this year? No. Do I think we can win at least 10 games? Yes, but like all teams you have to catch some breaks and stay injury free. If Tebow went down with a torn ACL for the Gators, it would be hard to think the Gators would be penciled in the BCS Championship (but he is superman so it may not effect him). The expectations for the Bama program will continue to rise and hopefully championships are to come. I think as long as Coach Meyer and Coach Saban each stay at their current programs, there will be some fun battles for the SEC crown.

My last point is our conference has the best coaching staffs in the country. The competition in this conference does not match any other. The West should be interesting to watch this year. LSU has talent and Ole Miss has the returning experience, but I am hoping for a repeat of Saban vs. Meyer in the Dome.

Nachos

September 1st, 2009
1:25 pm

Of course Saban is a jerk, but he wins and thats all that matters. I’ll take wins over a “nice coach” anytime mutts and barners.

RJ

September 1st, 2009
1:32 pm

Outside of maybe Florida and USC there isn’t a college football fan in the country that doesn’t wish they had Saban

Otto

September 1st, 2009
1:35 pm

Plenty of UGA and GT fans aren’t wishing they had Saban.

CharlotteGator

September 1st, 2009
1:36 pm

Realistic Bama Fan,

Great post. Well thought out. You know your football.

Nearly the identical comments could be made re: the Gators’ championship run in ‘06. The SEC was somewhat down (Arkansas was the West champion) combined with some good fortune and UF ended up in the championship game. If we’re being honest not many of us Gator fans thought they’d be in that game at the beginning of the year, let alone throttle OSU the way they did. We were playing with house money and cashed it all in. Most Gator fans would tell you that we picked a great night to have a great night as it was probably the only game all season where both the offense and defense played well in the same game.

It says great things about the SEC, however, that even in our ‘down’ years, we have what it takes to compete with the nations’ best.

jumbeauxtiger

September 1st, 2009
1:44 pm

I have said on here numerous times that I like Saban and I have no ill will towards him.

The contract for life suggestion by Tony would not be wise in my opinion. I don’t believe any coach is worth that.

I can understand why Saban is a control freak. Afterall if things go bad its the HC who takes the fall.

I can see why Bama fans are excited but that doesn’t mean, as other posters have stated, that the rest of us are jealous. Sure some probably are but I’m glad Bama has him as it makes both of our programs have to step it up that much more.

There’s nothing like SEC football.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

Nick Saban and back to back 10 win seasons?

September 1st, 2009
1:56 pm

Obscure reference,

I’ve noticed several times that you and others always like to reference the fact that Saban has never had back to back 10 win seasons. Apparently you haven’t taken a close look at things. Before LSU Saban coached at Michigan State and Kent State where winning one 10 game season is a magical feat let alone 2.

At LSU Saban took over a program that had 8 losing seasons in 11 years. He won 8 games his first year of building the program so 10 wins was hardly expected anyway. That year also comprised an 11 game and not 12 game schedule. He won, 10 his second year, and slipped back to his worst season at LSU the next year with only 8 wins. The following year he won 13 and the national title in 2003. The following year his last 2004 shows LSU with a 9-3 record. Because of the leap year it was only an 11 game regular season rather than having an extra patsy game for a 12 game regular season. Otherwise he would have played somebody like Middle Tennessee and odds are 95% would have had back to back 10 game winning seasons. In any event he was only there 5 years anyway and the first 2-3 years were pretty much a rebuilding mission to begin with and a little inconsistency would be expected.

The idea that he is not that good a coach because he has never won back to back 10 plus winning seasons is statistically misleading.

P.Clarke

September 1st, 2009
2:04 pm

Hey Tony, in case you haven’t noticed, there are other teams in the SEC. I know that you trace the beginning of your career back to that magical moment when you interviewed Bear Bryant, but your love affair with Alabama and Saban in print and on television is getting to be a little disturbing. Perhaps you should apply for the job of Saban’s press agent since you spend most of your time talking in school girl tones about Saban/Alabama. I think it would be a natural fit for you to end your career worshipping Saban since you began it worshipping Bryant.

marble rye

September 1st, 2009
2:06 pm

To assume that extending a contract x-many years will automatically mean a coach will in fact stay at the school that long is foolish. Coaches leave schools all the time long before their contracts are up. I don’t know why extending a contract makes everyone believe that coach is somehow locked to that school for that long. Dumb.

Tide Rising

September 1st, 2009
2:20 pm

Realistic Bamafan pretty much hit the nail on the head for us.

We expect to be competitive like a UF, UGA, LSU and likewise we also expect to have some down years just like those programs UGA 9-4 in 06, UF 9-4 07, LSU 8-5 last year. Nobody can reasonably expect 12 wins every year or to expect national titles every year. And most of us do acknowledge we got a little lucky last year because we stayed injury year and it was certainly a down year for all 3 of our biggest rivals AU, UT LSU.

We just want to have some good seasons with the occasional 4 loss hiccup season just like other top tier sec teams and its not unrealistic or delusional to expect this.

I do see some irrational hating on Saban and the Bama program. Then the same haters start in on Urban Meyer and UF with statements like UF wouldn’t be winning if not for Tebow. Lot of anger, envy, and resentment going on by some fans of some other schools. It seems like the gator posters as usual are complimentary of Saban and Bama in general right now. I guess that’s cause they’re pretty comfortable and confident with who they have as a coach and not hung up with who someone else has as a coach. No little man syndrome there.

When you start going off on Atlanta gator and Charlotte gator who are probably the 2 most reasonable posters on here then you definitely have issues. Anyway, Saban is but one of many good coaches in the league. Ya still have Meyer, Richt, Miles, Nutt, Spurrier, Johnson, Petrino, a lot of good proven coaches out there so I don’t see any reason for any of those fans to be hating on a Saban or Meyer or really anybody’s coach for that matter. RTR.

john

September 1st, 2009
2:22 pm

no alabama does not cheat>>>> you are just jealous that you don’t have saban::::::::

Tide Rising

September 1st, 2009
2:27 pm

Marble rye,

Its not just the contract extension that will keep Saban at Bama. Its also the fact that his daughter just started at bama this year as a freshman. Saban also committed to a million dollar scholarship gift to be gifted at 100k per year for the next 10 years. Does that sound like someone who is leaving anytime soon?

On top of that Saban has pretty much burned his NFL bridges and in college there really are only a handul of teams that can pay the type of money Bama will pay Saban. Even ND, Michigan will not pay the kind of money Saban is getting paid. RR is only being paid 2.5 million at Mich while Saban is making 4 million. He’s pretty much stuck at Bama unless he wants to take a big pay cut. Besides, he’s 58 and is too old to want to rebuild another program all over again from scratch. You should welcome the competition. He’ll just be yet another good coach in a league full of really good coaches.

Frozen_Gator

September 1st, 2009
2:31 pm

Saban’s recruiting methods may catch up to him. Alabama can’t keep on getting commitments from over 30 athletes every year (3), something has to give. How many gray shirts can you stack up before they get a scholarship and count toward the 85? I don’t believe Alabama has lost 25 players through graduation or medical reasons the past three years but they manage to sign 25 and gray shirt a number. This year 10 days before signing there were 16 positions open to reach 85, they signed 25. Nine players were dumped. Sooner or later recruits will catch on to this.

Mister NFL

September 1st, 2009
2:35 pm

I’m no Bama fan but most of yall here make it obvious you’re scared of Saban and Bama. Get over it. With the 85 scholly rule, no one team will dominate more than a few years at a time.

Tide Rising

September 1st, 2009
2:43 pm

Frozen_Gator,

I was a little worried too about the scholarship numbers but Saban had it well in hand. He knew that there were 3 or 4 players that would have to go on medical scholarship, he knew that 2-3 players would get run off and transfer due to lack of playing time, and he knew he was going to run off 3-4 players or so due to disciplinary problems which he did. He make it clear to guys with discipline issues that if they didn’t straighten up he would run them off. He did exactly that with Brandon Fanney our starting jack linebacker for this year and the returning 3rd leading tackler from last year. Brandon is finishing at North Alabama this year because of in house discipline issues. Its a shame but Saban is a disciplinarian who runs a tight ship. And we need that for sure.

Plus he knew there were up to 4 players that were iffy as far as qualifying and so he figured that at least 1 of them wouldn’t make it. When it was all said and done all of them qualified and there wasn’t room for the whole class.

As it turned out though I think only 1 guy ended up grayshirting but it might have been 2. The 1 or 2 that ended up grayshirting were made fully aware of this possibility well before making their committments.

For the 2010 class we have 21 committs already and are going to sign 25 possibly 26. We have a senior class of at least 23 so accounting for the usual attrition of 2-4 players every year for all sorts of reasons we will be well within the numbers when fall camp opens in 2010.

obscure reference

September 1st, 2009
2:43 pm

Nick Saban and 10 win season,

I’ll admit that any stat, taken in a vacuum, can be twisted and turned to fit your desired outcome. His career is somewhat of a roller coaster with wins per years…starting with LSU 8, 10, 8, 13, 9 , 7, 12. History tells us he won’t win more than 8 or 9 this year which probably won’t get him into the SECCG. At this point, I consider him an average coach with a NC ring.

Coaches with back to back 10 win seasons:
Spurrier: 8 consecutive (NC), 9 wins, 2 consecutive
Fulmer:4 consecutive (NC), 2 consecutive
Richt: 4 consecutive, 9 wins, 2 consecutive
Meyer: to my surprise only 1 time while at Utah.
Carroll: 7 (2 NC)
Bowden: 10 (2 NC)
Stoops: 5 consecutive (NC), 3 consecutive. Stoops won his first NC before winning back to back, but has been on verge of many since.

Based on this stat, it takes consecutive 10 win seasons to generate a NC and a coaching dominance. Saban has yet to do that. Didn’t say he won’t, but lets give him time before handing him the greatest coach ever award.

Got 12?

September 1st, 2009
2:44 pm

Tide Rising,

If I was the fan of an SEC divisional rival, I wouldn’t welcome the competition. Let’s say Auburn hired Belichick after next season, it wouldn’t make me feel good for the conference. I’d be full of “anger…and resentment” like most of the posters here. Maybe I’m being petty but I’m also being honest.

Please note: I have no insider knowledge of a potential head coaching vacancy at Auburn. Also, Belichick is Saban’s mentor and for that reason (and several others) he will never coach at Auburn.

J

September 1st, 2009
2:53 pm

“How old is Coach Saban now?”

I believe I read somewhere that he is 57 and by the end of the contract extension he would be 66.