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	<title>Comments on: Tennessee does not need Bryce Brown aggravation</title>
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		<title>By: dawghater</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawghater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right DirtyDawg. I do apologize for the silliness I started. Totally uncalled for. We don&#039;t have to see eye to eye but I should be able to at least carry on a civil conversation. I am sorry.
 After the shape Coach Fulmer left our program in I&#039;d say most folks were just ready for a big change. I&#039;d say Coach Kiffin is just about as much of a polar opposite from Coach Fulmer as Mike Hamilton could&#039;ve possibly found. Do I agree with everything Kiffin has said and done? Absolutely not. I just know that the aw shucks mentality of Coach Fulmer had lost its appeal. The cupboard was just about bare in Knoxville when he was told his services were no longer needed. UT football had become dang near irrelevant. Losing to Wyoming was just the icing on the cake. Years of police ride alongs and drunk punters were also part of his downfall. There is an excitement back in Knoxville with Kiffin. I know it&#039;s a case of a new shiny toy, but if he doesn&#039;t get the job done then we&#039;ll go from there. Tennessee does have a great tradition just like your dogs. I hope he(Kiffin) hasn&#039;t bit off more than he can chew. There will be a few bumps this year. Anyone who doesn&#039;t think so is delusional or just plain silly. I just hope now that the season is starting he will hush and focus on winning games. We shall see. The time is upon us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right DirtyDawg. I do apologize for the silliness I started. Totally uncalled for. We don&#8217;t have to see eye to eye but I should be able to at least carry on a civil conversation. I am sorry.<br />
 After the shape Coach Fulmer left our program in I&#8217;d say most folks were just ready for a big change. I&#8217;d say Coach Kiffin is just about as much of a polar opposite from Coach Fulmer as Mike Hamilton could&#8217;ve possibly found. Do I agree with everything Kiffin has said and done? Absolutely not. I just know that the aw shucks mentality of Coach Fulmer had lost its appeal. The cupboard was just about bare in Knoxville when he was told his services were no longer needed. UT football had become dang near irrelevant. Losing to Wyoming was just the icing on the cake. Years of police ride alongs and drunk punters were also part of his downfall. There is an excitement back in Knoxville with Kiffin. I know it&#8217;s a case of a new shiny toy, but if he doesn&#8217;t get the job done then we&#8217;ll go from there. Tennessee does have a great tradition just like your dogs. I hope he(Kiffin) hasn&#8217;t bit off more than he can chew. There will be a few bumps this year. Anyone who doesn&#8217;t think so is delusional or just plain silly. I just hope now that the season is starting he will hush and focus on winning games. We shall see. The time is upon us.</p>
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		<title>By: DirtyDawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>DirtyDawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dawghater,,,I had to come back, just one more time.  The thing that has amazed me is that folks like you - obvious, long-time, UT fans - that know and appreciate the classy, winning, tradition at Tennessee - Neyland, Dickey, Battle, and Majors and Fulmer...SEC Championships, National Championships, All-Americans, All-Pros...all that, and you seem perfectly willing to go along with a young, smart-mouth, with nothing on his resume that should have qualified him for this job in the first place, that comes in there and decides that he&#039;s got to act the fool in order to get people, and recruits, to pay attention.  The thing about a company, an institution or a program is that you need to know what you stand for and, and assuming it&#039;s of quality, stick to it.  Instead Kiffin has come in and acted like the court jester and you folks have gone along with it.  My question is how could you have allowed that, or, indeed, be proud of it?

Now you can resort back to the name calling...by the way, my Tennessee friends - and a couple of them are my all-time best - and I refrain from that particular form of &#039;ribbing&#039; because we have too much respect for one another, our friendship and our respective institutions.  But since I don&#039;t know you, it doesn&#039;t really matter now, does it?  If you&#039;ll bother to check back, you&#039;ll note that I haven&#039;t resorted to that particular form of banter - must be because I&#039;m an inbred idiot and fool - maybe in the next life, or after the next UT/GA game, I&#039;ll come around.  I can always refer back to some of the language our Gator friends use on you guys - those are particularly derogatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dawghater,,,I had to come back, just one more time.  The thing that has amazed me is that folks like you &#8211; obvious, long-time, UT fans &#8211; that know and appreciate the classy, winning, tradition at Tennessee &#8211; Neyland, Dickey, Battle, and Majors and Fulmer&#8230;SEC Championships, National Championships, All-Americans, All-Pros&#8230;all that, and you seem perfectly willing to go along with a young, smart-mouth, with nothing on his resume that should have qualified him for this job in the first place, that comes in there and decides that he&#8217;s got to act the fool in order to get people, and recruits, to pay attention.  The thing about a company, an institution or a program is that you need to know what you stand for and, and assuming it&#8217;s of quality, stick to it.  Instead Kiffin has come in and acted like the court jester and you folks have gone along with it.  My question is how could you have allowed that, or, indeed, be proud of it?</p>
<p>Now you can resort back to the name calling&#8230;by the way, my Tennessee friends &#8211; and a couple of them are my all-time best &#8211; and I refrain from that particular form of &#8216;ribbing&#8217; because we have too much respect for one another, our friendship and our respective institutions.  But since I don&#8217;t know you, it doesn&#8217;t really matter now, does it?  If you&#8217;ll bother to check back, you&#8217;ll note that I haven&#8217;t resorted to that particular form of banter &#8211; must be because I&#8217;m an inbred idiot and fool &#8211; maybe in the next life, or after the next UT/GA game, I&#8217;ll come around.  I can always refer back to some of the language our Gator friends use on you guys &#8211; those are particularly derogatory.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check that, Kragthorpe is 11-13 (not 11-23) in his two years at Louisville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check that, Kragthorpe is 11-13 (not 11-23) in his two years at Louisville.</p>
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		<title>By: Cards Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cards Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carey- &quot;11-23 at louisville he’s only been a coach there for 2 years . 17 games a year?&quot; Good math, bad information- it should have been 11-13; 6-6 followed by 5-7. What makes it so hard to swallow is that those two mediocre years followed a 12-1 season topped off with an Orange Bowl championship that could have been better if we hadn&#039;t sleep-walked through the second half at Rutgers to lose by 3. Like it or not, without that one bad half, a basketball school could have been playing Ohio State for the national championship (and given how OSU played in two straight butt- whoopin&#039;s in national title games, the Cards might have won that game!). 
Miles- &quot;I’d prefer to see Fulmer in the Big 12 (Texas A&amp;M, the ACC (Virginia), or at Notre Dame…coaching at Louisville would be a step down relative to his competency&quot;- Sorry, Bud. Howard Schnellenberger came here to coach after leaving Miami- a team he had led to a national title or two- under a lot less duress than Fulmer was under when he left UT. He probably kept UL from dropping to D-II football and turned the program around 180 degrees. Fulmer is not too big to come to UofL, at least not figuratively speaking. (And with what our current coach has done, he&#039;d sure have an easy act to follow!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carey- &#8220;11-23 at louisville he’s only been a coach there for 2 years . 17 games a year?&#8221; Good math, bad information- it should have been 11-13; 6-6 followed by 5-7. What makes it so hard to swallow is that those two mediocre years followed a 12-1 season topped off with an Orange Bowl championship that could have been better if we hadn&#8217;t sleep-walked through the second half at Rutgers to lose by 3. Like it or not, without that one bad half, a basketball school could have been playing Ohio State for the national championship (and given how OSU played in two straight butt- whoopin&#8217;s in national title games, the Cards might have won that game!).<br />
Miles- &#8220;I’d prefer to see Fulmer in the Big 12 (Texas A&amp;M, the ACC (Virginia), or at Notre Dame…coaching at Louisville would be a step down relative to his competency&#8221;- Sorry, Bud. Howard Schnellenberger came here to coach after leaving Miami- a team he had led to a national title or two- under a lot less duress than Fulmer was under when he left UT. He probably kept UL from dropping to D-II football and turned the program around 180 degrees. Fulmer is not too big to come to UofL, at least not figuratively speaking. (And with what our current coach has done, he&#8217;d sure have an easy act to follow!)</p>
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		<title>By: bcs stinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcs stinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless there is more to the story, the Bryce Brown is a non-story. It is not a distraction to the team, with the program as it is now, I don&#039;t think they have time to be distracted. So far he has not shown his ego, he&#039;s worked hard, and even keeping a 3.5+ GPA (OK, I know he probably wasn&#039;t taking real difficult classe, but he&#039;s still making his grades). If he missed the entire season it would still be worth the risk. This kid has all the tools to be something special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless there is more to the story, the Bryce Brown is a non-story. It is not a distraction to the team, with the program as it is now, I don&#8217;t think they have time to be distracted. So far he has not shown his ego, he&#8217;s worked hard, and even keeping a 3.5+ GPA (OK, I know he probably wasn&#8217;t taking real difficult classe, but he&#8217;s still making his grades). If he missed the entire season it would still be worth the risk. This kid has all the tools to be something special.</p>
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		<title>By: dawghater</title>
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		<dc:creator>dawghater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proving my point. You really are a typical idiot dawg. Par for the course. Some of my favorites were watching Jamal Lewis run all over your chihuahuas in Knoxville as a freshman. Yes. I was there. Aren&#039;t you glad y&#039;all decided to recruit Jasper Sanks? Morons! Hanging 51 in that dump of a stadium. Yes. I was there. The following year in Knoxville when it was 21-0 before the puppies even got their second first down. I was there too. The 9 consecutive wins, and the all-time series lead. Oh yeah and the year Robert Edwards was running wild in Knoxville only to get his wittle footy hurt and Dax Langley missed the field goal. Still have that ticket stubb too. In &#039;96 watching Peyton teach Mike Bozo how to play quarterback. Yep. There too. Herschel running over Bates was classic. I&#039;ll give you that, but you&#039;re still just little ol&#039; Georgia. And that ain&#039;t much my friend. Come back when you can stake a claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proving my point. You really are a typical idiot dawg. Par for the course. Some of my favorites were watching Jamal Lewis run all over your chihuahuas in Knoxville as a freshman. Yes. I was there. Aren&#8217;t you glad y&#8217;all decided to recruit Jasper Sanks? Morons! Hanging 51 in that dump of a stadium. Yes. I was there. The following year in Knoxville when it was 21-0 before the puppies even got their second first down. I was there too. The 9 consecutive wins, and the all-time series lead. Oh yeah and the year Robert Edwards was running wild in Knoxville only to get his wittle footy hurt and Dax Langley missed the field goal. Still have that ticket stubb too. In &#8216;96 watching Peyton teach Mike Bozo how to play quarterback. Yep. There too. Herschel running over Bates was classic. I&#8217;ll give you that, but you&#8217;re still just little ol&#8217; Georgia. And that ain&#8217;t much my friend. Come back when you can stake a claim.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; SEC links: Stallings helped pay Vandy&#8217;s trip to Australia John Clay&#8217;s Sidelines</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; SEC links: Stallings helped pay Vandy&#8217;s trip to Australia John Clay&#8217;s Sidelines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tony Barnhart of the AJC writes that Tennessee does not need the Bryce Brown aggravation. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joel Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fulmer was good when Alabama was on probation and Georgia had Goff and Auburn was in trouble, but he was way second fiddle to a Florida program that lost a lot to FSU. His true ability was to recruit and simply outflank lesser talented teams.  He was Jim Donnan but with a couple of lucky breaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fulmer was good when Alabama was on probation and Georgia had Goff and Auburn was in trouble, but he was way second fiddle to a Florida program that lost a lot to FSU. His true ability was to recruit and simply outflank lesser talented teams.  He was Jim Donnan but with a couple of lucky breaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant move by Auburn.</description>
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		<title>By: djawjuh</title>
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		<dc:creator>djawjuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering how the AP voters settled on Alabama and Ole Miss in the Top 10?  Bama lost its QB and three OL that were top notch players.  Ole Miss is an unproven entity, hasn&#039;t been this high since Johnny Vaught coached.  Bama&#039;s lofty rating is, IMO, because of its coach, Nick Saban, not its talent.  And I could make the same argument for Ole Miss except for the fact that they have a genuine NFLer in their QB and they beat the gators at florida field.  Look for both to finish out of the top ten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering how the AP voters settled on Alabama and Ole Miss in the Top 10?  Bama lost its QB and three OL that were top notch players.  Ole Miss is an unproven entity, hasn&#8217;t been this high since Johnny Vaught coached.  Bama&#8217;s lofty rating is, IMO, because of its coach, Nick Saban, not its talent.  And I could make the same argument for Ole Miss except for the fact that they have a genuine NFLer in their QB and they beat the gators at florida field.  Look for both to finish out of the top ten.</p>
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