Shaw’s injury could be huge blow for Georgia Tech

 

 

There have been a bunch of significant scrimmages and developments since last we met. Nobody asked me, but:

 

The injury to Jaybo Shaw is a huge blow for Georgia Tech: While you can’t say it will have the impact of Virginia Tech losing running back Darren Evans, the broken collarbone by Jaybo Shaw, Georgia Tech’s backup quarterback, could very well be a factor in the ACC Coastal race. Shaw, the sophomore from Flowery Branch, isn’t as athletic as starter Josh Nesbitt, but he was very reliable. He could come in for a series or two if Nesbitt got dinged up. And if Nesbitt couldn’t go at all, Coach Paul Johnson felt confident that Shaw was probably not going to make the big mistake that could cost Georgia Tech a football game. When you run this offense, you have to have confidence in your backup quarterback because he is going to play meaningful possessions. Could Tevin Washington or David Sims ultimately be just as effective as Shaw? Absolutely. But it isn’t a given. Tech knew what they had in Jaybo Shaw.

 

The Alabama offensive line is going to be fine: Coach Nick Saban, as he likes to do from time to time, shook things up after Saturday’s scrimmage by saying: “We don’t have any starters on the offensive line-not one.”

The fact is that Alabama’s offensive line is going through a transition. Three starters from last season are gone, including Outland Trophy winner Andre Smith, and Antoine Caldwell, an underrated center. A year ago a lot of Alabama’s offense ran through Smith. The offensive line was so powerful and so good that most of the time the Crimson Tide could just steamroll people and wear them down during the course of the game. This offensive line won’t be able to do that, but Alabama has recruited well and there is plenty of talent. It may take a few games but Alabama will have a good offensive line. But it will be different.

 

Clemson QB? My money is on Kyle Parker: Head coach Dabo Swinney was not ready to name a starting quarterback after Saturday’s scrimmage but I believe it will be Kyle Parker, the redshirt freshman from Jacksonville. Parker, who is also an outstanding baseball player, has an incredible arm. He also has a presence about him when he’s on the field. One of the things that Swinney wants to do as Clemson’s head coach is improve the overall athleticism and play making ability on both sides of the ball. Willie Korn was a highly recruited quarterback coming out of high school. He’s solid.  Parker is a better athlete and can make more plays. There is another Clemson scrimmage on Tuesday. Look for an announcement to probably come this week.

 

Haden could be one more headache for Florida opponents: When I was in Gainesville this spring there was a lot of talk about who would fill the role of Percy Harvin, the talented all-purpose player who drove opposing defenses crazy. Everyone assumed it would be one of the many speedsters on the offensive side of the ball like Jeff Demps, Chris Rainey, Brandon James, or maybe even a freshman. But word came last week that junior Joe Haden, one of the best cornerbacks in the country, has been taking some snaps out of the shotgun, or “Wildcat” formation. Haden, from Fort Washington, Md., set a state high school record when he threw for 7,371 yards and 80 touchdowns in his career.

This is yet another interesting tweak of the Florida offense. Haden won’t get many snaps back there but when he lines up, there will be both a run and pass threat. It is yet another thing defensive coordinators in the SEC will have to think about when putting together a game plan.

 

Mitch Mustain looks like he’ll be a victim of bad timing:  When highly-recruited quarterback Mitch Mustain left Arkansas after the 2006 season, it was suggested that Southern Cal would probably not be the best place to go if he wanted playing time. Now it appears that the former Gatorade Player of the Year from Springdale, Ark., is going to be a victim of very bad timing in his college football career. Mustain started eight games as a true freshman at Arkansas and won them all. But he lost the starting job and never regained it. The reasons behind it could fill several books. We won’t rehash all that history here.

Mustain sat out the 2007 season. In 2008 he could not beat out Mark Sanchez, who led the Trojans to the Rose Bowl. When Sanchez passed up his senior season to turn pro, it looked like Mustain would get another shot last spring as he competed with sophomore Aaron Corp. But true freshman Matt Barkley, one of the nation’s best high school quarterbacks, enrolled early and finished No. 2 behind Corp with Mustain third.

Corp suffered a cracked bone in his left leg last week and Barkley immediately moved into the No. 1 job. Corp is getting X-rays today to see if he can get back on the field this week. If not, it appears Barkley will become the first true freshman in USC history to start an opener at quarterback. He is clearly the Trojans’ quarterback of the future.

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Spike

August 17th, 2009
6:38 am

The Jaybo and Dabo column.

Saint Simmons

August 17th, 2009
6:59 am

M Mustain is getting exactly what he deserves.

[...] Mr. College Football: The Alabama offensive line is going to be fine Coach Nick Saban, as he likes to do from time to time, shook things up after Saturday’s scrimmage by saying: “We don’t have any starters on the offensive line-not one.” The fact is that Alabama’s offensive line is going through a transition. Three starters from last season are gone, including Outland Trophy winner Andre Smith, and Antoine Caldwell, an underrated center. A year ago a lot of Alabama’s offense ran through Smith. The offensive line was so powerful and so good that most of the time the Crimson Tide could just steamroll people and wear them down during the course of the game. This offensive line won’t be able to do that, but Alabama has recruited well and there is plenty of talent. It may take a few games but Alabama will have a good offensive line. But it will be different. [...]

p

August 17th, 2009
7:56 am

While this blog wasn’t about UGA… Someone tell me what Oklahoma State has done to deserve the pub they are getting? Sure they scored a lot of points last year but most of the teams they did it against were AWFUL! I mean pathetic! They will get blown up by UGA… I will be impressed by them if they score 20 pts. and only lose by a couple of touchdowns.

David Smith

August 17th, 2009
8:13 am

Georgia Tech is deep at QB,this wont effect anything. I still say GT goes 10-2.

Carolina Gator Lover

August 17th, 2009
8:13 am

p

Who cares?

GT76

August 17th, 2009
8:17 am

Jaybo’s injury will actually make Georgia Tech better. The 3rd and 4th guys will now get more practice time and will be better.

Maddog

August 17th, 2009
8:18 am

GT will be fine, but I always hate to hear about an injury sidlining an athlete. I wish Shaw a speedy recovery.

Atlanta Gator

August 17th, 2009
8:19 am

Comments in response to Tony —-

(1) More than most offensive systems, Paul Johnson’s triple-option requires a solid back-up quarterback. First, because the amount of physical exertion by the QB requires that he be rested from time to time. Second, given the required physicality of the QB position in the scheme, the QB is going to get seriously popped from time to time and need some attention on the sideline. Georgia tech really needs a multi-talented Tebow-like player in the role.

(2) The rebuilding of Alabama’s offensive line is absolutely the key to having a successful season.

(3) I have no idea who will be Clemson’s starting quarterback, but the Tigers have issues everywhere. This season will be a real test of Dabo Swinney as head coach.

(4) Joe Haden? At quarterback? Seriously? Anyone who thinks Urban Meyer is simply satisfied with his current offensive scheme needs to understand this simple fact: Meyer will adjust the scheme and develop new plays to maximize the impact of current players. This Gator offense will evolve. This year’s version will be different than last year’s.

(5) Mitch Mustain? From freshman starter to senior back-up, he is probably the most talented senior QB in the country who is not a starter. I don’t pretend to know the rights and wrongs of what happened among him, Gus Malzahn and Houston Nutt at Arkansas, but his transfer to USC does not look like a smart move in retrospect. Anywhere but USC would have probably been a better move.

Newt Greengrinch

August 17th, 2009
8:24 am

Pete Carroll better hope Mustain’s momma doesn’t find out!

Jaybo

August 17th, 2009
8:27 am

While he isn’t the athlete Nesbot the Robot is, Jaybe seems to make reads more quickly (probably because of his greater experience with the offense). He’s the only guy who makes the triple option look like a smooth play – Nesbitt seems to hang for a second during the mesh.

Anyways, Jaybo always seems to be a lightning rod for big hits. I remember the uga game last year we he came around the tackle only to get body slammed by a uga d-lineman twice his size.

Before he got hurt he had gotten murdered on about 3/5 plays. You gotta respect the kid’s ability to take a shot and get right back up. He’ll be missed. Speedy recovery Jaybo!!

Ehsanul Islam Sadequee

August 17th, 2009
8:29 am

Tech will be fine with or without Jaybo. Go Jackets!

Eric

August 17th, 2009
8:36 am

I just wasted the first five minutes of my Monday.

Pensacola dawg

August 17th, 2009
8:36 am

No tech will not be fine w/out Jaybo. Shaws daddy coaches the triple option at Flowery Branch and he knows how to run it. Better believe teams will be gunning for Nesbit knowing if he goes down the geeks are in trouble!

David

August 17th, 2009
8:50 am

This just proves people have no idea what they are talking about. Tevin Washington has been pushing Jaybo for the #2 spot and is really good at the offense. GT will be fine.

Where have you gone Jim Bob Cooter ?

August 17th, 2009
8:51 am

Tony-

1) GT will be fine. Paul Johnson did not get where he is by having no plan B. Shaw will (hopefully) have a speedy recovery and the Jackets will be fine.

2) Bama suffers from overly high expectations this year after a surprisingly strong 2008. Even if the line is fine ,any upset or tough ,unexpected loss will shake its (and the fans) confidence.

3) If it has taken this long to name a QB , then Clemson may be in trouble. The staff got to see them all in the spring and for a couple of weeks now in the fall. Someone should have seperated himself by now. early indication that there may be some bumps in the road if their best leader is a redshirt FR.

4) Florida is loaded. All of their second team would start in the bottom half of the SEC and in most other conferences.They will miss Percy Harvin , but there are playmakers still available and three deep in Gainesville.

5) Mitch Mustain. The fans at Ole Miss should be happy that his folks tried to meddle in Houston Nutt’s regime at Arkansas. He’s finding out that the game is bigger than his outsized ego and momma can’t help coach at USC. His little bug out at Fayetteville may have cost him million$ as he rides the pine in LA.An object lesson in what bad advice will do.

Bamafan

August 17th, 2009
8:52 am

Saban plays mind games with the players and more important with the media who could not coach the
pee wee football team down the street!! ROLL TIDE FOLKS!!

JWalker

August 17th, 2009
8:53 am

Vegas set the over/under on GT wins at 8.5. For a team that won 9 last year and is looking to improve on that — 8.5 seems low. For some reason Vegas wants to get the action going on the over. You heard it here first: Tech goes 8-4. Not a bad year, but they will not be as good as everyone thinks.

m

August 17th, 2009
8:54 am

The loss of Jaybo is certainly not good, but if it had to happen, now was the best time. Last year Tech was thin at QB with only Nesbitt and Jaybo being able to run the offense.

This year, Tech is deep at QB…Nesbitt is going to be a superstar, Jaybo is very capable of running this offense, Tevin Washington is coming off his redshirt year and is very athletic, and the two freshmen, Jordan Luallen and David Sims are future stars in the making.

Unfortunately, Luallen has a sprained ankle and Jaybo is out for 8 weeks (or possible redshirt year). This will just make athletic Tevin the backup and a very capable young star in Sims as 3rd string while Luallen and Jaybo recover from their injuries.

That is the big difference in Tech this year….Depth. It may be young depth but it is talented depth.

Make no mistake about it, Paul Johnson is rapidly building a powerhouse…and all you doubters are going to be left in the diesel fumes as Johnathan Dwyer and Roddy Jones run by defenders like they are standing still (watch the ugag highlights on you tube if you have forgotten).

Thank God and Greyhound that the worst coach in the history of the world is gone forever. There is a new sheriff in town, and his name is Paul Johnson…and it is going to take a lot more than the loss of a backup QB to slow him down.

YoungDawg

August 17th, 2009
9:00 am

Tony, I’m not sure on the transfer rules. Could Mustain transfer again? If I remember right he could transfer to a D1AA school or lower but only one transfer is allowed at the d1 level.

JB

August 17th, 2009
9:08 am

All Dawg fans……..Don’t worry about any crap you read about our dawgs on here…..We have as much talent as anybody in the SEC. It will come together and all these haters on here know we have the horses to beat anyone. Richt has won 80% of his games and is 30-4 on the road.
That’s not luck. I would think even Florida will keep an eye on us, that is after we beat Okie St. by 2-3 touchdowns. ( 9 teams okie st played last year were ranked over 70 th nationally in defense, the other 3 games they were killed, nuff said)

Joe M

August 17th, 2009
9:15 am

Maybe Mustain’s mom can do some more interviews and bash Carroll like she did with Nutt. Wonder how much the Mustains enjoy those trips out West to watch someone else’s kid play. Maybe USC lapdog ESPN College Gameday can get her back on TV; something tells me she won’t be as eager this time, Bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha!

He should have transferred to Tulsa with his coach (Malzahn, the only person to keep their mouth shut and take the high road, seems to work out for guys like that doesn’t it). Maybe he can transfer to Auburn and be an offensive GA!

Things seem to be good for ole Houston too, which is good to see. His only crime was being a little hard-headed with his O, something he seems to have changed.

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August 17th, 2009
9:20 am

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Kiffin's A Bozo

August 17th, 2009
9:35 am

So why isn’t anybody talking about me??? Looks like I’m gonna have to come up with something new and stupid to say! It’s funny though, how I’ve been able to come up with more and more nice things to say about those hated Gaytors. Must be getting closer and closer to gametime! In a couple of weeks I’ll be wearing Teebows…

RAMBLE ON!!!

August 17th, 2009
9:41 am

Mr. College (sic) Football says Jaybo injury is huge, which it’s not. He doesn’t know any better since he only pays attention to the SEC.

It’s not good, but, Washington did very well in the spring game and the drop off is not bad…if Barnyard knew anything about the ACC and GT, he would/could tell you.

GT vs. Miami…I got a round trip ticket to Ft. Lauderdale for 115.00…less than 30 minutes (not miles) from the stadium…

GET YOUR TICKETS NOW!!!

Fly down Thursday, South Beach on Fri., come back Saturday…DO IT!!!

JB

August 17th, 2009
9:50 am

Ramble on, bravo…..you are flying to see Tech play…..most of your cohorts won’t drive less than an hour or two to Grant field…….GO DAWGS………….

ACC Fan

August 17th, 2009
9:50 am

RAMBLE ON!!!

The ACC Championship game is in Pensacola

Spike

August 17th, 2009
10:01 am

You nerds will stick out like a sore thumb in Miami. HAHAHA.

thom

August 17th, 2009
10:02 am

Way too much pounding on the quarterback in this offense.

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August 17th, 2009
10:05 am

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dan

August 17th, 2009
10:18 am

I think losing Shaw hurts the Jackets from a backup standpoint. Jaybo ran the same offense in High School and gives Tech a seasonded backup. I don’t think losing Shaw will hurt Tech from a win/loss standpoint. But those Tech QB’s take some shots in this offense, and if Nesbitt goes down, Tech could struggle to pull out some wins (i.e. Garner Webb 10-7).

Mark

August 17th, 2009
10:21 am

Yeah jaybo won so many games for us last year. damn near lost the fsu game because of him. bottom line is we will suck unless nesbitt stays healthy. shaw would not win games for us.

GT '93

August 17th, 2009
10:22 am

I rarely disagree with you, Tony. But this is an exception.

Jaybo is not that good. Paul Johnson barely let him throw against Georgia.

Tevin Washington is more athletic, and will ultimately be able to run the triple-O more effectively.

Good to see him getting reps sooner, rather than later.

hop

August 17th, 2009
10:24 am

another worthless article by tony!

murfdawg

August 17th, 2009
10:24 am

Maybe Bama’s inexperience on the line will make them look a little like UGA looked last year. It will be interesting to see how great a coach Saban is this year.

Joe Schmoe

August 17th, 2009
10:27 am

Im sorry, but Jaybo is not an essential to this offense, and that would have been proven with Tevin overtaking him on the depth charts. Season depends on Nesbitt, as stated before. If he is in most of the games, then look out.

big loss

August 17th, 2009
10:44 am

Some of you Tech fans need to take off the gold colored glasses. I’ve been to the practices. Jaybo was a solid backup and ran the offense very efficiently. He doesn’t make mistakes and can move the chains.

Tevin is a very elusive runner and looks good on the option keeper, but that’s about it. He doesn’t throw as well as Jaybo and makes more mistakes. The other two QB’s are true freshmen and Luallen has been hurt for the last two weeks.

This is a huge loss for GT. While I think Tevin has potential, I felt more comfortable with him as the third string QB not one play away from leading our football team.

Alhammed Zakir Hushmanzed

August 17th, 2009
10:48 am

jaybo gonna be jest fine

PMC

August 17th, 2009
10:54 am

Mitch Mustain is a whiny little girl who got upset because the best players on the team he signed with were running backs so they weren’t going to continue to fail with a new offense they didn’t have the personnel to run. He earned his spot rotting on the bench. He could have stayed a year and been fine, and now he can sit and hope that some NFL team thinks he’s Matt Cassell. I hope he got a good education anyway USC is an excellent institution.

Who is gt??

August 17th, 2009
10:56 am

GT IS irrlevant

Who is gt??

August 17th, 2009
10:57 am

Joe Schmoe

August 17th, 2009
11:02 am

Big loss, yea very good thrower into the opponents arm. Were you at any of the games last year? I know I was, and he definetly knows the system, but that is where it stops. He doesn’t have the size or speed to be a #1 playing against the opponets we play. At the spring game Tevin looked more comfortable, and did not take those huge hits as Jaybo did. He just seems out of place. Tevin, as I said before would over take him anyways.

AltamahaDawg

August 17th, 2009
11:04 am

Ramble on! I am very impressed that you even knew about a football game that is not listed on the University of Georgia schedule.

Mark

August 17th, 2009
11:12 am

big loss must be jaybo’s daddy. yeah that fumble and int against fsu last year sure was solid. jaybo is too fragile to play in div 1. he would do well when cpj was at ga south. i wish him a speedy recovery but i hope to not see him on the flats unless we are up by 3 tds in the 4th qtr and as a backup.

AltamahaDawg

August 17th, 2009
11:13 am

I dont give a rat’s hairy behind if you fellow convince yourselves otherwise, but losing your #2 QB IS going to affect your practice and preparation. It’s not just who plays on Saturday. Every team hopes thier #2 doesn’t have to come into the game, but he IS the one running the second team against your defence all week. Hope the kid heals soon.

Paddy

August 17th, 2009
11:18 am

It is a loss, no doubt. Not a big loss. GT still wins 10 games.

GT Que

August 17th, 2009
11:21 am

There is merit to what AltamahaDawg and Joe Schmoe are saying

Worst case scenario, Shaw will be back in the line up by the UNC game – I believe GT can survive Jaxville State, Clemson, and MIA (all teams we beat last year) with Just Nesbitt, or if need be, Washington at the helm

small loss

August 17th, 2009
11:21 am

No gold colored sunglasses here.

If Nesbitt plays we MIGHT win an ACC Championship and beat Georgia.

Neither of those goals are/were ever going to be accomplished if Nesbitt is on the bench for any extended perior of time, regardless of who was the back-up. PERIOD.

GT Que

August 17th, 2009
11:26 am

Small loss

agreed – very good point

GT fan ...

August 17th, 2009
11:27 am

The Jackets are fine. IMO, Shaw’s injury, while it does take away someone familiar with the O, won’t be as “huge” as TB thinks. It’s not 2008, where this injury would’ve been devasting.

People keep bringing up the GW game from last year. A game in which a QB (Booker) who had no business, much less the atheletic talent needed, running PJ’s offense. Tevin Washington is good! OVERALL, IMO, better than Jaybo. Yes, Jaybo executes the offense better than ALL the QBs, but he was not starting for a reason. PJ knows what he needs at the QB position, and he’s got it in TW, and David Sims — leaving out Luallen b/c he’s injured too.

Going back to GW … IF that scenario happens again in ‘09 I’ll bet David Sims or TW, whoever is 3rd string, will executed the offense much better than Booker. Booker running this O is like riding a bicycle with no pedals.

IMO …. Jaybo needs to redshirt, gain 15lbs of muscle, and workout with the track team to lower his 40 time and be ready for 2010. He’s behind the 8-ball now with TW, DS, & JL getting reps & familiar with the O. All 3 them are already bigger & faster than Jaybo. TW, 6′1″ 203; DS, 5′11″ 229; JL, 6′4″ 206. Jaybo, 6′0″ 190 (and that’s bulked-up from ‘08).

Excited, can’t wait for the season to start, and seeing some of the guys I’m reading so much about on the field kicking butt!!