Breaking down the Coaches Poll

 

The USA Today Coaches Poll came out Friday. Of the 59 coaches who vote on the poll, 53 of them voted Florida No. 1. No, we don’t know (and we really don’t care) which six coaches didn’t vote Florida No. 1 because the voting is secret.

 In fact, we don’t even know if the coaches filled out their own ballots. Of course, we have reason to be skeptical about that and we wonder how much longer the Coaches poll will remain a viable part of the BCS process. But that’s another argument for another day

Here is a breakdown of the poll by conference with a little commentary to get your Monday started.  Feel free to add your own.

The number of teams each conference placed in the Top 25 is in parentheses in bold. The other numbers are where those teams were ranked. I’m not ranking the conferences today. That will come later.

SEC (5): Florida (1), Alabama (5), LSU (9), Ole Miss (10), Georgia (13). It’s not surprising to have five SEC teams ranked. It’s not totally surprising to have four in the Top 10, because Ole Miss is getting a lot of love from a lot of people. What is surprising is for the SEC not to have a team ranked in positions 14-25. Auburn, Kentucky, Arkansas, South Carolina, and Tennessee all received votes. Vanderbilt and Mississippi State were the only SEC teams which did not receive votes.

ACC (4): Virginia Tech (7), Georgia Tech (15), Florida State (19), North Carolina (20). The ACC continues to be a very balanced league as Clemson, Miami, N.C. State, Wake Forest, Maryland, and Boston College all received votes. The ACC sent 10 teams to bowls last season and could do it again this season. But the league would trade a couple of those bowl slots for a serious contender for the BCS championship on the first Saturday in December.

Big East:  (0): Yes, you read that right. The Big East got shut out of the preseason Coaches Top 25 and don’t even scratch until No. 29 with Cincinnati, the defending conference champions. The Bearcats lost 10 starters off the defense that led them to the Orange Bowl. Pat White is gone as West Virginia’s quarterback. South Florida and Rutgers could also win this league.

Big Ten (3): Ohio State (6); Penn State (8), Iowa (21). I was a little surprised to see Iowa sitting there at 21 because the Hawkeyes lost their best offensive weapon in running Shonn Greene (1,850 yards rushing in 2008). As a college football fan, it’s hard to accept that Michigan is bad. They are going to get better under Rich Rodriguez, but in the short term it’s painful to watch. I don’t see anybody other than Ohio State and Penn State in this league challenging, but keep an eye on Illinois and senior QB Juice Williams and WR Arrelious Benn.

Big 12 (4): Texas (2), Oklahoma (3), Oklahoma State (11), Nebraska (22): This league is pretty top heavy but you’d better be aware of Kansas in the North Division. The Jayhawks have a very good quarterback in Todd Reesing and Nebraska will have a new quarterback. Texas Tech will have to replace the prolific Graham Harrell at quarterback, but head coach Mike Leach always seems to find somebody who can throw for over 300 yards a game.

Pac-10 (4): USC (4), California (12), Oregon (14), Oregon State (25): If anybody is going to challenge the Trojans, this is the year. USC will have a new quarterback for the second straight year. It could be sophomore Aaron Corp or it could be true freshman Matt Barkley. The Trojans also have to replace eight starters on defense. I really like California with running back Jahvid Best, the nation’s leading returning rusher (131.67 ypg in 2008).

Mountain West (3): TCU (17); Utah (18); BYU (23):  About right now the folks who play in the Mountain West are saying: “We have three teams ranked in the preseason Top 25. We had a team (Utah) to go 13-0 last season with a win over Alabama. Now explain to me why the Big East, which has NOBODY in the Top 25 gets an automatic bid to the BCS and we don’t?”

WAC (1): Boise State (16). Only a 17-16 loss to TCU in the Poinsettia Bowl kept the Broncos (12-1) from perfection last season. Sophomore quarterback Kellen Moore returns and maybe this time Boise State can be the BCS buster. The Broncos open the season at home against Oregon on Sept. 3. Win that one and they could be looking at 13-0.

Independent (1): Notre Dame (23). The Irish have a schedule that should allow them to significantly improve on last season’s 7-6 record. Jimmy Clausen enters his third year at quarterback with some weapons at wide receiver who can make plays. The defense will be better now that (former Georgia Tech DC) Jon Tenuta is running it.

 

So who was left out of the Coaches Top 25 who absolutely, positively should have been in there? The floor is yours.

 

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142 comments Add your comment

Anonymous

August 10th, 2009
2:48 pm

Sorry:

Had they stuck with him they might not have had to go through what must have been a painful six-coaches-in-ten-years run.

Tide Rising

August 10th, 2009
3:06 pm

King of Sandy Spring,

12 teams in each conference with 8 conference games and 4 noncon games. That’s 48 noncon games for both the ACC and SEC.

So why did you only show 16 noncon opponents for each conference when showing a supposedly higher level of noncon opponents for the ACC?

Rather than cherry picking 16 games that give the impression of the ACC having a tougher noncon and 16 noncon games that make the SEC look weak you should have just laid out either all noncon opponents for each conference or only the ranked noncon opponents for each conference.

What you did was blatantly dishonest and you now have zero credibility.

Tide Rising

August 10th, 2009
3:10 pm

Anonymous,

Alabama owes Curry for the way they treated him? You must be referencing the one nut who threw a brick through his office window. If you’re going to let one nut run you out of the job then you probably don’t have the mental toughness to be the Alabama coach anyway and you’ld be better off at UK. BTW, he left Bama of his own volition to go to UK. He was not fired or forced to leave.

G8R GRAD

August 10th, 2009
3:48 pm

Unless I am reading this wrong (and please, correct me if I am), Vegas has a different opinion than the coaches’.

UF
OK
USC
Tx
Ohio St
Bama
Va Tech
LSU
Ole Miss
Penn St
OK St

see: http://www.thespread.com/ncaa-football-top-stories-300/2009-college-football-top-25-coaches-poll.html

Anonymous

August 10th, 2009
3:53 pm

Tide Rising:

You’ll get some disagreement on that position from those outside the Alabama program.

Unless I am mistaken, Coach Curry won the SEC, went 10-2 and had the best winning percentage since your beloved Bear.
Why then would any fan be dissatisfied with that record unless one of the losses was on the plains?
Going by the numbers, he was the best coach you’ve had in close to two decades.

G8R GRAD

August 10th, 2009
4:03 pm

I beg your collective pardons:

Cal tied Ole Miss for 9th

G8R GRAD

August 10th, 2009
4:08 pm

Alright.
One more try.
Jeez:

FSU tied for 8th with LSU;

Notre Dame at #10; and

Ole Miss and OREGON tied for 11th.

(I think I should’ve had lunch)

Tide Rising

August 10th, 2009
4:15 pm

Anonymous,

You are right. I’ll get some disagreement from people “OUTSIDE” the program. Curry did well except for one thing. He went 0-3 against Auburn. A prerequisite for success whether it be Auburn, Bama, Georgia, whoever is that you have to beat your main rival. At least once in awhile. Not only could Curry not do that but there were other issues as well.

He was regarded as somewhat of an elitist. For example, other coaches remarked after he left that Bama left several prized recruits to Auburn because Curry didn’t want to go into some rough neighborhoods and housing projects to recruit some black athletes because he didn’t feel safe. This was one of the major criticisms of Curry. That policy borders on being discriminatory and at the least it shows the man either to be elitist or a wus.

In any event the man left of his own accord and went to UK. It is what it is and frankly I don’t even see why an Auburn fan like yourself would want to rehash stuff from 20 years ago. Personally, neither I nor most bama fans have bitter feelings against the man. Things didn’t work out and both he and Bama were better off without in the end.

G8R GRAD

August 10th, 2009
4:15 pm

To recap:

1) UF
2) OK
3) USC
4) TX
5) Ohio State
6) Bama
7) Va Tech
8) LSU and FSU
10)Ole Miss and Oregon
12)PSU
13)OK State and Nebraska
15)Cal, UGA and GA Tech

ThaMan

August 10th, 2009
4:16 pm

You idiot fleabags need to get something new to talk about. All you can come up with is stadium capacity and hot dogs. I don’t know how many people were in your former landfill last year to see close to 500 yards rushing put on your “D”. It’s about winning, morons!

Tide Rising

August 10th, 2009
4:19 pm

G8R GRAD,

The 2 polls seem very similar to me. I guess they won’t ever be perfectly aligned but for the most part they are close. I didn’t see which poll had ND #10 but I guess that’s because with the exception of USC they have an absurdly easy schedule. I doubt if more than 1 or 2 opponents other than USC on their schedule will have a winning record in 09. It would suck because if ND does go something like 10-2 then of course they would go to a bcs bowl where they would be shellacked.

G8R GRAD

August 10th, 2009
4:37 pm

Here we go!
Latest RB injury report out of Gainesville:

Emmanuel Moody: Ankle

Jeff Demps: Hamstring injury from Track & Field season

Andre Dubose: Hamstring

Brandon James: Offseason surgery to reapir a broken bone in his foot!

Who’s left you ask?

Chris rainey – all 180lbs. of him!

This is not good.

Big Daddy Lane Kiffin

August 10th, 2009
4:53 pm

Wait til my Big Orange waxes the azzes of Florida, UGA,,…..well, you get the picture. We are flying well below the radar right now but come September the can of whoop-azz gets opened up. See all you SEC East chumps in Atlanta……….the Big Orange will rise to the top in 2009!!

G8R GRAD

August 10th, 2009
4:57 pm

Tide rising:

Thanks.
I missed Notre Dame at #10 since they are ranked by the coaches 13 places lower than the oddsmakers’!
FSU is 11 places lower and Nebraska is 8.
Those are the most striking divergences I see.

TampaGator

August 10th, 2009
5:02 pm

As a Gator fan, I hate going to games like FIU and Charleston Southern In fact, I am not going to the Charleston game. I gave the tickets away. But until South Florida agrees to a home and home series and can guarantee Florida the money a Swamp visit brings USF, then Florida will continue to have puff cakes in the Swamp because they get the same revenue for a Swamp puff game as they do for a LSU game (especially now that all the Florida games are on regional or national TV). Since USF plays in the Outback Bowl and not in a home stadium, USF has to pay the city of Tampa revenue that would otherwise go to the Gators. Why would Florida want to play USF home and home as it now stands. I am sure that disagreement was the main reason USF decided not to schedule the Gators this year. I am sure the deal for Georgia to go to ASU last year and OSU this year was a sweet one for Georgia, financially. And I don’t think Georgia would have played ASU there if ASU had not agree to play Georgia in Athens this year. But I am still not understanding why Georgia would agree to give up Stanford Stadium revenue to go out and play ASU last year. It had to have been a real sweet money deal for the Dawgs, tied probably to national TV guarenteed money as well.

Tide Rising

August 10th, 2009
5:57 pm

Tampagator,

Exposure. That’s why UGA went out and played ASU last year. For 50 years the dawgs didn’t venture outside of the friendly confines of the immediate southeast for big time noncon opponents. But now they are doing it because financially both teams still make good money and because most programs nowadays want to have at least one huge noncon opponent because it gives their program exposure to other parts of the country. The fans love it to. When I grew up I watched us play big time non con home and homes with teams like Nebraska, ND, Penn State, USC, OU, Ohio State one year, The exposure helps solidify a program as a true national, elite program and that’s something the dawgs had never done before. Obviously richt and damon evans realized this and are changing that in a hurry. That’s why we scheduled Clemson last year, VT this year, and we pick back up a home and home next year with Penn State who we had several great home and homes with over the past 30 years. Personally I absolutely love these big time intersectional games and I wish there were even more of them.

P-head

August 10th, 2009
6:01 pm

G8R Grad…relax my man. I was over at the practice this week. Demps is running full speed and Moody’s injury is minor. Andre Dubose is fully revovered and is everything he has been made out to be and is going to be a good Percy replacement when he learns the complete playbook. He is unbelieveably quick and fast and may be just as good a runner as a receiver…sound familiar??? James is mostly a return man and will be full speed by the start of the season. And Chris Rainey is bigger than last year and maybe faster…he looked great in practice.

Camden Mark

August 10th, 2009
6:04 pm

T.G. the Dawgs have no problem,unlike UF,of playing a real schedual.
Florida fans should be ashamed of how candyassed thier schedual is this year.Ya’ll have a great team and should play more teams worthy of that status.
By the way,Ryan Stamper,thats my nephew.

TampaGator

August 10th, 2009
6:09 pm

TIDE RISING….I agree. I would love to see Ohio State and the like come to Gainesville and Florida go to Columbus and the like the next year. Georgia deserves a lot of credit for what they are doing and I hope their fellow SEC teammates will follow the lead in the future. With Randy Shannon’s attitude, I don’t think the Miami series is going to picked up by the Gators anytime soon. And, like I said, USF (an up and coming program) is hurt by not having its own on campus stadium. So why not schedule some tougher opponents, Gators??? But I still have a question…why does Georgia need national exposure? They get plenty of it already without playing ASU, etc. It has to be more money driven, like almost everything else these days.

Camden Mark

August 10th, 2009
6:10 pm

Tide Penn State and the rest of the weeny 10 are a joke.
U ‘Bama boys give ‘em a good ‘ol fashioned SEC whippin next year,ya hear.

TampaGator

August 10th, 2009
6:17 pm

CAMDEN MARK…how soon you forget…Florida had maybe the toughest schedule in the country last year. As I wrote earlier, Florida wanted to schedule USF at the opening game this year and thought it was on up until the 11th hour of scheduling. But the game failed to develop in negotiations and the Gators stuggled to get a 12th game on the schedule (they tried to schedule tougher opponents for the opening game but no good team was available). The Gator AD had to go with Charleston or not have a 12th game in the Swamp. And Troy is a good team…I repeat. And FIU was scheduled to be the puff game…as Georgia has a puff game with a gimme as well this year. So, there is nothing for the Gators to be “ashamed about” Camden Mark. I don’t think the Gator players are afraid to play any team, any where, this year…or ashamed of how good they are.

TampaGator

August 10th, 2009
6:21 pm

Camden Mark…Ryan Stamper is a true example of what it means to be a Gator. He is not as talented as most of the LBs on the team. But he is a total team player and plays almost perfectly to a game plan. He hardly ever makes a mistake on the field or hardly ever is out of position on the field. I have never seen him miss a tackle either. He is also a good student and will graduate, if he hasn’t already. I would not be surprised to see Ryan Stamper as a head coach of a major college football team in the future. He is that type of person.

Camden Mark

August 10th, 2009
6:39 pm

Wifes sisters boy.And yes he is a fine well mannered young man.
But I beg to differ on your schedualing as per Urbans own comments in the past.
Don’t count Ryan out for a shot at the pro’s either.

TampaGator

August 10th, 2009
7:07 pm

Big Daddy…wez juz down here in the Swamp pickin’ oures nozes juz waitin on ya’az to gets heres to kicks out buttsez. Comes on downs when yez ready for the arzes kickin’. Wez really afraids of ya boys, Kiffin. That good oles boys gots us Gators wurried, bigs times.

TampaGator

August 10th, 2009
7:14 pm

Camden…just going by what the ESPN talking heads said going into last year (ranked Florida’s schedule as the toughest in the nation) and what they said about the Gators schedule before the National Championship game. From Miami to start the season (in Miami) to Oklahoma at the end (also Florida Atlantic went to a bowl game as well), it was a really good schedule last year. Ryan is a good college player and he might get a free agent try in the NFL…but not drafted I don’t think.

can't tackle, huh?

August 10th, 2009
7:15 pm

UGa has a tough (not many cupcakes) schedule this year and actually start with a ranked team.
Why is that? Was it a mistake? If (big IF) they lay an egg in still waters, their season could be a bummer? I thought they taught a course in risk management…

TampaGator

August 10th, 2009
7:20 pm

Camden…just checked. 10 of the 12 teams Florida played last year went to bowl games. 2 of them went to BCS bowl games (Ole Miss and Bama). Then, the Gators beat the #1 ranked team in the country to top it off in the NC game. I would say that was a fairly good schedule, wouldn’t you?

Camden Mark

August 10th, 2009
8:36 pm

Ya’ll had a fine year no dought,and I like it when anyone of the SEC family (even Tenn) whips up on some outsiders.
But I’m talking reg season,not SEC champ or NC.
Good showing,schedual makes us all stronger (SEC),hell even Vandy can strut a little cause there in our confrence.

Blue54white11cats

August 10th, 2009
8:45 pm

Anybody who thinks that the SEC is overrated needs a reality check. You dont win all but two bowl games last season and have the most bowl bids out of any conference and be underrated. In fact, it should almost be argued that the other conferences that got their *** handed to them last year are the overrated ones. Yes, GA is probably too high in the rankings, but be real, the other teams not ranked but recieving votes are better than the ranking suggests. Speaking of individual teams, I think Utah should have been playing against Florida in the Championship last season. And as much as I hate the gators, they are awesome. Hopefully this year USC can freaking finally run the table and actually face Florida (who will probably run the table) and have a battle royale in the BCS championship game.

toccoa

August 10th, 2009
10:08 pm

ACC football should not have a conference championship if they can only sale 25,000 tickets.What a freaking joke.

Jimbo

August 10th, 2009
10:38 pm

Who cares about out of conference scheduling. just play the damn game. schools go through cycles of scheduling tougher opponents than others. besides they are done a couple years in advance. and to the ramble on idiot. you are probably making your fellow fans sick. you are the epitome of dumb tech fans. congratulations on being a complete and total moron. so. please go home because we are all now dumber for reading your remarks. oh and how is USC 4th? shouldn’t they be 2, right behind fla. rest of it looks ok i suppose. its still early. go dawgs

SwellMagnet

August 10th, 2009
10:40 pm

“Hopefully this year USC can freaking finally run the table and actually face Florida”

Yeah, it’s been a whole 5 years since SC went undefeated. They sure do suck all right! How long since UF’s last undefeated season?

obomaisaclown

August 10th, 2009
11:10 pm

BOY HOW THOSE BAMA BOY’S LIKE TO DREAM , BETTER THAN LAST YEAR THAT MAY BE TRUE BECAUSE THEY WERE OVER RATED LAST YEAR. THEIR WILL BE 5 LOSES BETWEEN THEM BAMA AND LSU WITH BAMA LOSING THREE , AS OLDE MISS WITH THE BEST QB PLAYS FLA. FOR SEC

dan

August 10th, 2009
11:23 pm

I think Auburn will surprise some folks this year. Regardless of what folsk think, the Tigers do have talent especially on defense, and that Ben Tate is the real deal. That conversion to the spread last season was a horrible move by Tuberville, and was a last ditch effort to save his job. The Tigers really fell apart because of things going on behind the scenes. A team like Auburn doesn’t lack talent, they lack confidence. And when they find it, any team that underestimates them will be in big time trouble! I think Gene Chizik is a better coach than he’s given respect for( yes Iowa State was awful), and that offense can’t be any worse than last year. I think the Tigers make it back to a bowl game this year.

GT-It's DORKTASTIC!

August 11th, 2009
1:15 am

RambleOn, I think it is hilarious that you’re puffing your little bird chest out about the ACC going .500 against the “overrated” SEC. You know what? You’re absolutely right: The SEC going 6-6 against the ACC is a FAILURE for us. What does that say about your pathetic ACC, that 6-6 is worth BRAGGING about? Oh well, enjoy running that punk lip while you can. It all comes crashing down in November. Mark THAT down, little man.

Dave

August 11th, 2009
5:25 am

I think we all know the coaches poll is a joke. Chances are unlike fans no coach probably even watches one other football game in total when most work probably 80 hours a week during football season. The question should be what do you do about it. I think the most appropriate alternative is to use the AP poll. It is my understanding the AP does not like the poll being used for free. Why not pay something for it’s use like subscribing to premium content for a newspaper subscription. Sportswriters do actually watch football games nobody would deny that no matter what prejudice some may have against the press. This would be a larger sample of voters than coaches so it would be less subject to bias if enough writers voted. One thing there should never be is a secret ballot by anybody. This allows people to hide a vote and if somebody is voting irresponsibly maybe some should be pulled from future voting at a point in time or asked to explain a vote if it is an abberration as was Spurrier’s Duke vote he was called out on. Tony you would be doing America and the coaches a favor if you tried to kill the coaches poll by you and others asking the coaches directly how many of them actually vote in the coaches poll rather than assigning it to say sports information directors. I suspect the coaches are like you and want to kill this sham. It is time to embarrass the NCAA and BCS by showing the coaches poll is a joke..

Big time?? Not

August 11th, 2009
6:57 am

Four tickets, four hot dogs, four cokes

Spike

August 11th, 2009
7:20 am

Big time?? GATA!!

Jim morrison

August 14th, 2009
2:10 pm

Gators roll again to another SEC, NC, and a Heisman for TEBOW!

Enough Said!

REBill

August 20th, 2009
7:14 pm

#1FLORIDA(12-0) vs. #2OLE MISS(12-0) in Atlanta. Tebow gets stuffed again. GO REBS!

NotaTech fan

August 21st, 2009
3:04 pm

Tech did not get love because they were unable to win two games in a row – I do not think it really matters if you are 15th or 13th at this point in the year – after all 1 out of 7 is your standard you can only get better – Lots of Luck

justin

September 16th, 2009
5:35 pm

might wanna rethink about michigan being bad. michigan is one of the top teams in the big ten now .