Five burning questions about the SEC East

Yesterday we looked at the SEC West and identified five burning questions that need to be answered heading into the start of practice this week. Today let’s look at the SEC East.

 

1. Is Georgia REALLY going to get after it in the preseason? Here is what I mean by that. A year ago when the injuries started piling up the Georgia coaches had to back off contact work in practice. They really had no choice. But the downside to that is that players lose their edge, particularly the when it comes to tackling on defense. Coach Mark Richt has stated on more than one occasion that he won’t make that mistake again. Defensive coordinator Willie Martinez is candid that his group must practice at a high level, and that means hitting, in order to play like an SEC defense. But what happens if Georgia suffers a couple of significant injuries early like it did with DT Jeff Owens and LT Trinton Sturdivant? Will Georgia be able to stick to its guns and keep getting after it in practice?

 

2. Is Florida REALLY serious about this I-formation thing? Urban Meyer tweaked his offense in the spring to add some I-formation.  He did it for several reasons: He wants to put Tim Tebow under center to prove to the NFL boys that the 2007 Heisman Trophy winner can do it. He wants a power running game for goal line and short yardage where somebody other than No. 15 carries the ball. And he wants to get backup quarterback John Brantley ready to take over in 2010. With Brantley’s arm, which is big-time, the play-action passing game out of the I-formation will be a difficult change of pace for Florida’s opponents. But that was in the spring. Now it’s time to get ready to play the games. This spring I sat in the office of new OC Steve Addazio and he was adamant: This was not an experiment. This would become part of the offense. Meyer told me the same. We’ll see.

 

3. Is Tennessee REALLY going to throw these rookie running backs into the fire right away? This much we know about Tennessee’s first team under Lane Kiffin: All season it is going to be a struggle between getting the team ready to play the next game and preparing for the long haul. That will again be the case when Kiffin and OC Jim Chaney decide how to use the highly-recruited running backs, Bryce Brown and David Oku. How much these guys actually get on the field, I believe, is up to the offensive line. If Tennessee had to play tomorrow, instead of Sept. 5 against Western Kentucky, it’s a pretty good bet the Vols would have five seniors starting up front. This is significant. If this group really jells, then Kiffin and Chaney can be a little bolder. If not, you stick with the proven players in Montario Hardesty and Tauren Poole and you spot play the freshmen. The toughest things for young running backs to learn are how to block (because the game is much faster) and picking up pass protection schemes. You wonder how much a highly-recruited kid like Brown was asked to block in high school.

 

4. Is Stephen Garcia FINALLY ready to become the leader at South Carolina? Steve Spurrier has been giving Garcia his props for behaving himself and getting through a spring and a summer without incident. Now it’s show time and the Gamecocks have a pretty tough opening opponent in N.C. State (in Raleigh on Sept. 3).  Garcia is going to have to overcome some things. South Carolina looks to be pretty average at wide receiver. The offensive line, which has been a weak point since Spurrier got to Columbia, is still underwhelming. If there is no running game then there is no play-action passing game and Garcia is going to spend a lot of time just running around for his life. I would like to see some of their early scrimmages, especially with Eric Norwood applying pressure from the other side. And how does Garcia react if things don’t go well?

 

5. Vanderbilt is going to use a no huddle. Seriously? The Commodores, who went 7-6 and won their first bowl game since 1955 last season, must do something about their offense, which was last in the SEC and 117th (out of 119) nationally last season with only 256.23 yards per game. Vanderbilt has two proven quarterbacks (Mackenzi Adams and Larry Smith) and a veteran offensive line. So coach Bobby Johnson wants to shake things up. They played with the idea of a no-huddle offense in the spring. Do they continue to use it this summer and into the season? Smith, the MVP of Music City Bowl, is perfect for that kind of offense. And if the Commodores use it in the opening game against Western Carolina, will it still be in place when they go to LSU on Sept. 12?

 

Bonus question:

Does Kentucky freshman Morgan Newton insert himself into the quarterback competition early? Since their record-breaking offense of 2007, Kentucky fans have waited for the second coming of quarterback Andre Woodson. It looks like he has arrived in the person of Morgan Newton (6-4, 217) of Carmel, Ind. As a senior Newton threw for 1,938 yards and ran for 1,664 more. He scored 48 touchdowns. He led his high school team to three straight state championship games and was 38-7 as a starting quarterback. Mike Hartline is the starting quarterback at Kentucky and Randall Cobb, a full-time wide receiver, will get some snaps out of the Wildcat formation. How quickly can Newton pick up the offense of Joker Phillips and will he be a factor early in this season?

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231 comments Add your comment

rocksteadyfreddie

August 4th, 2009
8:45 am

I think UF using the I all depends on Emmanuel Moody. UF used some I form. stuff in 05 and 06 when D. Wynn was healthy. For Meyer it is all about having the players. If he doesn’t have a big back to run I, he won’t do it. It’s put up or shut up time for the Southern Cal transfer.

Jimmy Barron

August 4th, 2009
8:50 am

Never count the Vowels out.

brad

August 4th, 2009
8:53 am

Tony, Lennon Creer left the Vols in the Spring and is not part of the 2009 squad.

Gen Neyland

August 4th, 2009
8:56 am

brad : He probably meant Poole… I think Bryce Brown plays, Oku redshirts (bar’n injuries).

Dink

August 4th, 2009
8:56 am

UT has to run the ball. They don’t have anyone who can throw it.

Bama Aaron

August 4th, 2009
8:58 am

I agree with Freddy… the I at UF depends on a back stepping up. Until that happens #15 will be carrying the ball.
Not that it will matter either way.. UF will still be playing in the Dome come December…

mark

August 4th, 2009
8:59 am

Meyer is a very conservative coach and even more so when it comes to calling plays. The dynamic of a new OC in Addazio will play a big part here as well. If he Gators ae sputtering at all on offense, Meyer has in the past thrown everything out the window but what he knows will work an stuck with that.

The challenge sometimes seems to be with all the various formations and sets that Florida can run from the spread, there are only so many offensive plays per game so you have to focus on what is working.

Should be fun to watch.

Miles

August 4th, 2009
9:05 am

Bonus question: After the Vols lose to Georgia, Florida, Alabama, and Kentucky, will Mike Hamilton ask Kiffin and his father to leave Knoxville?

PT

August 4th, 2009
9:05 am

As any year, any of the Big 6 in the SEC , and no Ole Miss is not in that group, can make a serious push for the title or drop to a 500.00 type team. That is FACT. That is how well they recruit. The cylcles depend on many things, such as O LINE, Injuries, and QB .

Gatorzone

August 4th, 2009
9:09 am

All of you guys who are convinced that Urban is headed to Notre Dame…

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
9:12 am

1) Dogs have enough depth on both sides of the line of scrimmage that they can afford to practice hard and withstand some injuries. Its just hard to have something like 20 injuries that they had last year and sustain success but they still put up 10 wins. The east comes down to UGA-UF game of course.

2) Doesn’t matter if Florida ran the I, the veer, hambone, wishbone, etc. They would still win.

3) UT- Freshman backs can play in the sec and these guys will get their shot. Having an all senior offensive line is a huge plus for the vols.

4) Stephen Garcia? Who knows? Hard to say if he will meet the expectations.

5) Vandy had a really good D last year with that anemic offense. They could really turn some heads if they can throw some people off balance with a hurry up offense and actually score some points for a change. It would be great to see the dores go bowling 2 years in a row.

6) Cameron Newton- Hard to succeed as a freshman qb in the sec. They will probably work him in gradually. Kentucky keeps getting progressively better and better. They just seem to get overshadowed by the big boys in the east.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
9:17 am

Gatorzone,

I think most of us knew and hoped he would stay. The rumor mongering of him leaving was just off season banter by columnists with nothing to write about so of course they got to stir things up. Its just the nature of the beast when you’re talking about the media.

Congrats to Meyer for being the new 4 million dollar man. He deserves it with 2 ncs in 3 years. Somebody pay that man his money.

RAMBLE ON!!!

August 4th, 2009
9:19 am

What Tony is trying to say in paragraph 1 is…what will UGAg’s excuse be this year?

SimpleDawg

August 4th, 2009
9:20 am

Whatever the Dawgs did last year to prepare for the season, they had better not do it again.

Dawgs should be better defensively with better chemistry and decent talent. The offense could be pretty good IF we find a workhorse running back….I don’t like running back by committee. If you have 3-4 running backs, then you don’t really have a good one.

The Gators will need to establish a running game from a conventional formation….Tebow will be a marked man this year – even more so than in the past….and TB, you’re right – next year they will have to alter their style anyway.

The Vowels will be a train wreck, and everyone will be watching to see it…can’t help it, but gotta see it.

The Warrior Chickens will struggle to win games, although Garcia will be much better. They don’t have a “big time” running back, nor wide receiver, and the offensive line is not as talented as last year. The defense can’t play all game and still be effective in the 4th qtr.

Vandy will continue to improve, but you may not be able to see it.

I don’t have any idea how Rich Brooks is going to produce consistently performing teams at Kentucky…he’s always going to be building for that one good year every 3-4 years.

It’s that time of year, again…..Thank God, it’s finally here.

Gator Mike

August 4th, 2009
9:20 am

Tony, thank you this is very good article with some super questions to ponder. All of us will se how it all plays out once the teams embark on their SEC Games. By 04 October, we should have a feel on where each team stands. One thing is consistent in the SEC and ACC is that there will be some surprises again tis year.
Go Gators!

knoxdawg

August 4th, 2009
9:22 am

1. UGA needs to run full contact full speed practices or they will suffer in games defensively as they did last year. In juries are just part of the game. Time has come to suck it up and go get ready for the season.

2. With length of games having been shortened and fewer offensive plays available Meyer may not have the opportunity to run the I formation. However, if his defense is as stout as believed to be he may get more offensive plays than anticipated. It would be a good thing to get the running burden off Tebow. He needs to stay healthy.

3. If Brown is as good as advertised he will see playing time. How much will depend on how the line does. My bet is he will see spot playing time and Oku redshirts.

4. Garcia may blossom into the QB Spurrier is looking for but if they have no offensive line to produce a running game then it will be a long year for Garcia and Spurrier. My thinking is this is Spurriers last year.

5. If the no huddle will improve your offensive output then it is a no brainer, you use it and do it often. However, what they need is more top flight atheletes to make the offense better.

As for the bonus, Brooks is crazy not to line Cobb up as the starting QB and run a spread option offense. If he did that he could win 8 games this year and wouldn’t be picked to finish last in the East.

JaxDawg

August 4th, 2009
9:29 am

1. Last year’s curse is this year’s blessing. We are very deep in most positions, especially the high contact positions OL,DL, LB, RB, so I think there would have to be a LOT of injuries for that to happen.

2. Meyer wants to help Tebow improve his draft status, and the “knock” on him has been him not taking snaps under center. As long as it works and the production is there, I think they will stick with it. Regardless, I think Tebow will be a better NFL prospect than most think. More teams are experimenting with some form of the “wildcat” formation and Tebow would fit that kind of system perfectly. The Dolphins had some good success with it, and I suspect they will take a long hard look at Tebow in next year’s draft.

3. While Hardesty and Creer are solid backs neither is what you’d call a game breaker. With the injuries to the wr’s Tenn will likely have to be more focused on the running game anyway. If the freshmen live up to the hype, it will be hard to keep them off the field.

4. Now that Garcia doesn’t have to look over his shoulder, I think he will prove to be a solid qb. Last year SOS was so quick to yank whoever was the qb at the first sign of trouble that I think it messed with all of them in the head a bit, and probably the main reason Beecher and Smelley transfered. His game will be different this year, he won’t have to try and force things to stay on the field, or worry about going to the bench if he has a bad series. I think he will play more relaxed and poised.

5. B.Johnson is a great coach when it comes to adjusting his strategy to fit the players he’s got, he has to be to make up for the difference in talent he has to work with vs other SEC programs. If the no huddle proves to work during practice and the opener against west carolina then I think he’ll stick with it. It’s a great way to keep teams off balance, by making it harder for the defense to sub personnel.

Saint Simons Lover

August 4th, 2009
9:29 am

Why would Meyer ever go to Notre Dame? He has it made down at UF and going to South Bend wouldn’t be in my plans either. He is at a place that he can win consistently and keep the talent coming in. Hell, I’m UGA all the way but like him or not he is a great coach and his teams win big games. Maybe one day we’ll do that at UGA again. With Slick Willie around who knows just WTH will happen?

When???

August 4th, 2009
9:33 am

What kind of journalism is this? Tony, the ajc is talking uga football? When are we going to get those important stories like Mark Richt telling everyone he went on a mission trip? Or when is the Saint going to do a backflip of a diving board and the paper put it on the front page? We know his wife is going back to school, doesn’t he at least have some kind of distant cousin we can read about. That would be typical ajc wouldn’t it?

Gatorzone

August 4th, 2009
9:33 am

Tide, glad to hear you agree. However, many UGA fans took great delight in saying Meyer was leaving after this year when Tebow is gone.

Onto the article,
Dawgs will be tougher on D this year especially if Richt truly upholds this plan
Gators will be more rounded with the diversity in formations thusly improving their offense all around.
Garcia??? who knows
the rest, who cares.

m

August 4th, 2009
9:34 am

Tony…the real question.

If ugag couldn’t beat Tech with a #1 ranked team, two first round NFL draft picks, at home in sanford and son stadium, with Tech having a new coach and running a high school offense and playing mainly freshmen and sophomores….then how in the helle are they going to beat them this year?????

Answer…..they are not!!

45-42…only the beginning.

Thank God and Greyhound that chan gomer gailey is gone forever…you dawgs are really going to miss him.

[...] Five burning questions about the SEC East “Is Tennessee REALLY going to throw these rookie running backs into the fire right away? This much we know about Tennessee

AltamahaDawg

August 4th, 2009
9:37 am

I think every person in here would have done exactly what Richt did last year with the practices. I think no person in here would do it again.

G8R GRAD

August 4th, 2009
9:39 am

Coach Meyer showed the ability to accomodate a QB like Brantley and alternate different QB styles in 2006 with Chris Leak (a “tradtional” drop-and-pass QB)and Tebow.

As I recall, they did okay with that.

PMC

August 4th, 2009
9:42 am

It’s smart of Urban to make that change really a year ahead of when they need it. It will help them in running plays when they don’t have Tebow. I’m impressed with how willingly flexible Coach Meyer is. He brought in the Fullback and TE several years ago when Chris Leak was the QB and it helped… I can imagine Tebow will only be a better passer this year.

I also think Joe Cox might be a better fit for the overall UGA offensive system than Matt Stafford. I think he’ll develop a comfort level with Mike Bobo quickly. Hitting will do them good you can’t play scared. You can’t learn to wrap up by pretending. I also think Caleb King will benifit from having more reps. He’s always had the talent he just needs to be consistant.

[...] Five burning questions about the SEC East “Is Tennessee REALLY going to throw these rookie running backs into the fire right away? This much we know about Tennessee

PMC

August 4th, 2009
9:48 am

The thing about Freshmen playing…. if they are good enough and can pickup the blocking assignments it’s silly to redshirt them because they could have one good year and leave so you might as well get that year out of them if you can. High Schools do so much of the running and passing now I think the best backs out of HS can handle the physical aspect of the game it’s the mental stuff the blocking mostly where they just don’t pick it up quickly enough to get on the field.

[...] Five burning questions about the SEC East “Is Tennessee REALLY going to throw these rookie running backs into the fire right away? This much we know about Tennessee

Matt

August 4th, 2009
9:49 am

Tony:

It’s now evident you phoned in your blog yesterday. These questions are much better than the ones raised yesterday for the West.

BurningRedBleedingBlack

August 4th, 2009
9:57 am

Good morning fellow SEC Fans! Nice to start the morning off with a great SEC article. I agree with most of the serious comments. Tide Rising hit it on the money. I think UGA, UF , will be fine this South Carolina i have to say i’ve been waiting to see if they will ever put it together, but with the SEC growing stronger everyyear. Plus these media deal will make for one happy SEC fan lots of games.
I have to say vandy, kentucky will win some big ones and lose some! Tenn i will follow especially the game with UF. Have a good one guys can’t wait to get it started good luck to you all. GO DAWGS

poopdawg

August 4th, 2009
9:59 am

tony, i thought creer is gone at ut , but they will also have poole from toccoa

Gen Neyland

August 4th, 2009
10:01 am

Miles, Miles, Miles : There you go again, injecting stupidity into a structured blog topic. I’ll try to get you pointed in the right direction. UT will split those 4 losses referenced above and yes, CLK and CMK will be around for more than a year.

It’ll be interesting watching Florida mix in the I-formation. Ought to open up an already potent offense. My only concern if’n I were a Gator is, why fix something that ain’t broken..? I guess the future of the Florida program will feature more an I-formation with Brantley so there’s no time like the 2009 season to break it in. Geez, if anybody keeps them under 30 scored, consider it a moral victory.

Brooks Ray

August 4th, 2009
10:09 am

Something has to be done about the Dawgs practices. Part of football is getting hit on daily basis. You don’t put your players in situations that are very dangerous but you have to let them “get after it” and set the tone everyday. You truly do take practice intensity to the game field. I don’t care how the good the player is and how many stars they were as a recruit if they don’t leave it all on the field then you and the team as a whole are going to suffer. Coach Martinez is a very capable coach in my opinion. Problems develop over time and spread. Georgia is a team to watch for sure. This team is capable of big things. Everybody has to look in the mirror this year and not look around and expect somebody else to get the job done. Not that kind of team anymore. GO DAWGS!!

Gatorzone

August 4th, 2009
10:12 am

PMC, good point. Meyer will constantly adapt offense and defense to their strengths. I look for Brantley to have many packages in games this year like Tebow had in 06.
Meyer, started getting him pt last year to be prepared, and that time should increase this year. By next fall, he will be totally prepared and ready to take over.

Trade School Junkie

August 4th, 2009
10:13 am

There are really only 2 burning questions for the SEC East.

1. How many SEC teams will Tenn upset? Probaly two: UF & UGA.

No SEC team or coach has ever played against Monte Kiffin’s SUPER BOWL WINNING DEFENSE. Tenn has a chance to shock the world and beat UF in the Swamp in Game 3. UF will be the first SEC team to face Tenn.

Dont think it cant happen? Nobody thought Ole Miss could beat UF in the Swamp either. It’ll be a low scoring affair: Tenn:20 UF:16

2. How much will UGA underperform expectations? Answer: A lot. 8-4 or possibly 7-5 this year. Cox aint Stafford. UGA will find out how much Stafford & Moreno meant to that offense.

2008 was the Year of DELUSION (Pre-Season #1: what, yeah right)
2009 will be the Year of DISILLUSION
(Bad Bad loss to OKST will shatter any ILLUSION)

When even UGA-homer Barnhart has to come out with an artcle about how NOT to judge a HC, we know what he’s REALY doing: LOWERING EXPECTATIONS.

SEC East Finish:
1. Florida
2. Tennessee
3. UGA
4. Kentucky
5. USC
6. Vandy

JB

August 4th, 2009
10:15 am

Dawgs will win one they shouldn’t…….but lose one they shouldn’t……….We have a tough schedule…..would love to see Bama or Tech play it. 9-3 would be expected this year. We will beat Tech….lesson’s learned…….Check Gardner Webb tape……They lose QB, they will struggle, as we will if we lose Cox….not a QB on roster who has played SEC football. Unless Florida stumps a toe….and 11 on D coming back, I just don’t see it, they go to Atlanta to play LSU or Bama….and that is a toss up. But, As Ole Miss said before kick off last year against Gators, let’s tee it up and see what happens !!!!!!!!

CharlotteGator

August 4th, 2009
10:15 am

Gen Neyland,

I definitely thought the same thing whenever this I-formation was brought up a few months ago, but when I take a hard look at that Florida offense, it’s probably the best thing for them to do personnel wise. Last year’s offense might be broken with the current players we have on the squad.

The spread as it was run last year worked for one simple reason: Percy Harvin. Tebow is obviously the engine to the offense, but it goes nowhere if Harvin isn’t there doing what he does. The hope is that Demps or the freshman Dubose can somehow replace a portion of that production, but that’s a very tall order.

If they can’t, my thought is they need to go back to what worked in 2006 and incorporate some more FB and TE sets. Meyer/Mullen’s spread has been about creating matchup nightmare’s WR’s/LB’s, TE’s/S’s, etc. With this year’s team (similar to 06) the current TE is a matchup nightmare. AH has to be on the field and two tight end sets would exploit his skill even more. Last year we had WR’s that could produce all over the field and that’s what wreaked havoc for opposing defenses. This year’s team has unproven potential at the WR position, so going to sets that emphasize Hernandez and put Moody in a position where he can succeed is a solid way to counter that potential problem.

Of course, none of this matters if we can’t replace our LT and RT so that may the key above all.

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

August 4th, 2009
10:16 am

m, Ga will beat Tech the same way it has for the last 40 or so years………….with ease. Now on to the important stuff…… ? # 1 Yes Ga will hit hard in practice, even w/ injuries. #2. Yes Meyer proved to me w/ Leak that he is capable of adapting his offense and Tebow will do fine under center. He’s a football player, period. #3 With Kiffen, who knows, but young RB’s can do just fine so let the best players play. #4 Probably not, to be a leader you must first be an adult, not sure Garcia fits that description. And Spurrier is getting ready to leave.#5 Bobby Johnson is THE most under rated coach in America, so if he thinks it’ll help then who am I to disagree. Bonus, I don’t think early, if it is early KY is back to being KY. And one more time without the net……… Ga beats Ga Tech with ease

Atanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
10:17 am

Comments in response to Tony —-

(1) Conditioning, position drills, then game conditions practice. You’re not ready to play without all three in proper proportion. If you have walking wounded (and even if you don’t), it’s always a question of how hard you practice and when; that is, it’s entirely within the coach’s good judgment. That’s why the coach makes the big bucks.

(2) It’s not like Meyer’s Gators have not run their offense out of the I-formation in the past. They have. They know how to do this. It’s a question of emphasis and frequency—-that, and what does it take away from the current offensive production, if anything.

(3) If Tennessee’s freshman running backs are even remotely ready, does Kiffin have a choice not to play them? In 2008, the Volunteers became the SEC East poster child for “Auburn’s syndrome”—-plenty of talent, good defense, no offense. Kiffin needs to show offensive signs of life to keep his players and fans engaged this year.

(4) I’ll believe it when I see it, but all signs so far point to Stephen Garcia being a bit of head trip. The Evil Genius does not deal well with head trips at quarterback, but what choice does he have? Without a better than competent QB, Spurrier’s offense does not go. (If SOS had a Jesse Palmer, Noah Brindise or Doug Johnson on the bench, Garcia would already be riding the pine for the rest of his eligibility.)

(5) If Vanderbilt has the quarterback to run a no-huddle offense, all the more power to them. A well-executed no-huddle offense against middling defenses is the sort of thing that might get the Commodores to 8 wins in a season. I wish them well . . . it could be the difference in games against Mississippi State, Army, South Carolina, Georgia Tech, Kentucky and even Tennessee in its present condition (I am assuming their games against Western Carolina and Rice are givens). An 8-win season for Vandy would be a huge break-through for Bobby Johnson and his program.

(6) Newton sounds like he should be playing for the Gators. LOL

The smart coaching move is always to bring young talent along slowly, especially quarterbacks. It’s a big jump from high school to college in terms of offensive execution and reading defenses. Don’t destroy a kid’s confidence before he’s learned enough to compete against the opponents’ first-string defenses.

JB

August 4th, 2009
10:19 am

Trade school junkie…….get off the crack………..

ReptilesRule

August 4th, 2009
10:22 am

I expect Florida will use the I formation selectively this year, still 90% shotgun spread. Unlike how many UGA fans seem to think of their team, UF is NOT a farm team for the NFL. UF is about winning championships, not winning the NFL draft. With that being said however, expect Tebow and Johnny Brantley to run some I formation as this will be used much more extensively in 2010 when Brantley takes over. The I fits the skill set of JB and will allow for play action passing in the overall scheme plus put more emphasis on the tailbacks in the ground game because when it comes to running the ball, Brantley is definitely not the force that Tebow is…

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
10:22 am

Did someone just say Bobby Johnson at Vandy must be the most underrated coach in America? Probably right. He would probably kick tail at a bigger time program. Going bowling at Vandy and winning your bowl is no small feat.

co dawg

August 4th, 2009
10:24 am

meyer to notre dame? maybe. maybe not. it’s interesting to note that his contract ends at the same time as weiss’ contract. what does that mean?

maybe nothing. maybe it’s a shrewd move to squeeze uf for some more cash down the road. why do i think meyer makes that move?

he’s never stayed in one place for too long. he has the relationships at notre dame. his kids will be out of the house. most importantly, meyer would have the opportunity to right the ship at one of the most storied football programs in history.

if meyer spends a decade at uf, he’s going to be ready for a new challenge. i bleed red and black so naturally meyer drives me crazy. that said, he’s good for the sec. good for the rivalry. i don’t want to see him leave. i want to see him lose.

go dawgs!

co dawg

August 4th, 2009
10:24 am

meyer to notre dame? maybe. maybe not. it’s interesting to note that his contract ends at the same time as weiss’ contract. what does that mean?

maybe nothing. maybe it’s a shrewd move to squeeze uf for some more cash down the road. why do i think meyer makes that move?

he’s never stayed in one place for too long. he has the relationships at notre dame. his kids will be out of the house. most importantly, meyer would have the opportunity to right the ship at one of the most storied football programs in history.

if meyer spends a decade at uf, he’s going to be ready for a new challenge. i bleed red and black so naturally meyer drives me crazy. that said, he’s good for the sec. good for the rivalry. i don’t want to see him leave. i want to see him lose.

go dawgs!

CharlotteGator

August 4th, 2009
10:24 am

As far as the UGA defense, obviously full out is the way to go and get this team prepared. However, let’s not blame everything last year on poor tackling and the lack of practice contact.

I think it’s often overlooked, but in my opinion, missing out on Jeff Owens and other key spots due to injury had more to do with it than anything else. Defenses MUST be strong up the middle and if they are can compensate for weaknesses elsewhere. My main point of reference is the 06 Gator D. They had a dominate D-line, stud MLB (and solid WLB) and superstar FS (with a solid CB and a serviceable CB and SS). The D-line, Siler, and Nelson covered up a lot of holes and errors made by the weaker members of the D. This year UGA has a chance to have a great D-line with Owens back as long as the DE’s can start producing. If the D-line is there, then you have a star MLB with solid OLB’s and then need R. Jones to step-up. He’s the one in my opinion that needs to make the biggest leap. Last year there was 1 good DT, a great CB, great LB, and average S’s and in my opinion that’s why the defense struggled with consistency.

This year I fully expect the UGA D to be one of the better in the SEC right up there with UF and Bama’s. LSU’s will have talent, but I’m not sure that it’s proven and they certainly lost a lot on the line. Chavis should help, but at the end of the day it’s all about players. If there replacements step up then watch out for them as well.

Atanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
10:26 am

Tide Rising—-Florida’s UAA is so flush with cash that it can easily afford the $4 million for Meyer without blinking (it is, after all, only $1 million more than they were paying him already). UAA just plunked $15 million for a new WOMEN’S LACROSSE stadium for Pete’s sake, and made a $6 million contribution to the general fund of the university.

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
10:27 am

Good grief. I can’t spell my own name right. Not a good sign.

harry

August 4th, 2009
10:29 am

I see the Dawgs going to a quasi spread o. They can use their great fullbacks, as they have TWO really great ones. They can roll off of a block, the catch a flat pass from Cox and ramble for maybe 30 yards. FIRST DOWN !! or maybe TD !!

They can use that look to pull the LBs in and then just loft one to the then wide open tight ends or fake that pass and hit either AJ or Marlon or Tavarres King or M Moore deep. Cox can well manage that type of game and this will inflate his numbers. MS was too impatient to run this precision scheme anyway.

This plan allows us to move the chains and score. Tailbacks? Yes, we have them and they will be very effective, given the fact the the defenders will not KEY on them, due to the full backs activities.

I see a Caleb King churning out maybe 575 yds on the season and Wuahuan Ealey another 500+ and Richard Samuels for 350 and Carlton Thomas on several LONG SPRINTS getting another 350 on the year.

I don’t know the total tailback postion yards from last season but I know that Moreno churned up around 1300. So, if these men can do what I describe here, where is the concern??? We will be more than fine here.

Remember, the UGA predicate will be the full backs catching one or running the ball HARD or taking a fake from Cox. There is also the factor of Logan Grey and his athletisim. I see him being in all of the games and being a major factor. He could HUGLEY increase the offensive production with his arm and by rolling out and giving the D a run look, then pull up and go deep or to the tight ends. Nice scheme. Cox cannot run this particular thing because he is not a run threat.

Having two QBs that are entirely different styles has ALWAYS been CMR’s desired QB set up whether at FSU or UGA.

It will be fun folks.

BurningRedBleedingBlack

August 4th, 2009
10:30 am

Gator Zone your right UF has used the I-formation befoer with Chris Leak, It worked well, I don’t see why people think this is a big topic. Yes Tebow is a spread QB but he has alot of talent. Tenn using Freshman runningback can work only if they have solid blocking from the o-line, and if they pick up on pass protecting. Bama won’t skip abeat this year i think they have the west locked up, that strong aggresive D will return. Look for UGA to be more aggresive this year in play. More team play always equals good perfomance i don’t care how bad a team you are as long as you play as a team.

Trade School Junkie

August 4th, 2009
10:31 am

The BUlldawg nation believing 2008 Pre-Season #1 hype ??
Paying $10,000 to buy the option for season tix ??
Thinking UGA was gonna beat Bama(Blackout)…OR…Florida last year ??
Thinking CPJ and his new “high-school” offense was gonna be a layup ??
Believing Cox is as good as Stafford ??
Believing UGA will go 10-2 or 9-3 in 2009 ??

And you’re telling…others…to stay off the crack ??

ROTFLMAO

heeltide

August 4th, 2009
10:33 am

I think Kiffin’s more a PR guy and salesman than a football coach. Don’t underestimate the impact of 110,000 orange fannies in Neyland on that sort of mindset — he will cater to the crowd and give them the big name recruits. After all, those recruits are the reasons he had to make such a spectacle of himself in the off-season, remember?

thom

August 4th, 2009
10:37 am

GREAT QUESTIONS – GO DAWGS! http://www.wedgeorgia.com

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
10:37 am

Atlanta Gator,

Go get some coffee. Either that or learn how to spell your name right. Yeah, I figured Florida has to be really flush. 4 million is probably nothing. If they really wanted to they could pay 5, 6 million or more. I just think that they don’t because obviously ADs nationwide want to try and hold the line at some point on coaching salaries and keep the coaching salary arms raise in check. This is probably a good thing anyway since the smaller schools like MAC conference schools would have a really hard time keeping up. I’ld be curious to see where the coordinators at big time programs like the SEC big 6 compare in salary to head coaches at programs like say Utah or a Southern Miss or a MAC conference member like Ball State.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
10:39 am

Sorry, I meant to spell it coarching salaries. The same way Corrine Brown (D) Florida would spell it.

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
10:41 am

co dawg—-If, after Meyer has coached a decade at Florida, won 3+ MNCs and 5+ SEC championships, and he still wants to coach at Notre Dame (or anywhere else), I would say “thank you and good luck, coach.”

However, I don’t see it happening any time soon for two reasons: Florida President Bernie Machen and athletic director Jeremy Foley. They believe in him, they support him, and they are willing to pay him to keep him. I know you Dawgs never make it to Gainesville for football season, but the stadium enhancements of the last 10 years are first-rate. The only reason Meyer would ever leave would be, like Spurrier before him, he needs a new challenge. It clearly won’t be for the money, because Florida can afford to pay more than Notre Dame.

Paddy

August 4th, 2009
10:45 am

trade school junkie….every new offense always starts in high school then moves on to college. Been that way since the single wing in Port Arthor, Texas.

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
10:52 am

Tide Rising—-Did you see the total athletic revenue numbers for the 2007-2008 when I posted them last week? Florida knocked down $102 million, behind Texas and Ohio State. The rest of the competitive SEC programs (Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee) were in the $80 million to $90 million range. With the new TV revenue, there’s no reason why Arkansas, Kentucky, Ole Miss and South Carolina can’t be competitive, too. Now, if everyone can stay off NCAA probation, this could become the golden age of SEC football.

G8R GRAD

August 4th, 2009
10:53 am

Tide Rising:

There is also the public relations consideration of paying your coach millions with the overall economy and unemployment numbers under which we are curently suffering.

G8R GRAD

August 4th, 2009
10:55 am

Atlanta Gator:

Do you recall the link to those athletic revnue numbers?
I must have missed your post.

Gatorzone

August 4th, 2009
10:55 am

Burning and bleeding, what are you hearing on UGA’s DBs? With the front 7 coming back, I look for their D to be aweful stout. Anyone selling Cox short is making a mistake as well. This is a perfect situation for Richt to come in under the radar and really make some noise.
Can’t wait for what should be a great year for the SEC!

mcdawg

August 4th, 2009
11:02 am

hey m (moron) UGA was not the #1 ranked team when they played Tech go play your computer games

one of the first things CMR changed when he came from FSU was the intensity of practice-i remember him making the observation that UGA practiced soft which showed up on Saturdays during the Donnan era (poor tackling)he knows what to do

Urban has been crowned the Pope of Gainsville

Looking forward to seeing B. Brown play

the USC game is making me nervous for some reason

a no huddle will be extremely obnoxious

Matt

August 4th, 2009
11:08 am

Hang on, do you guys actually think Meyer signing a contract extension means anything? All it means is that he will coach at Florida this year and make more money doing so. We already knew that. He can still get out of this contract if he wants to. I’m not saying he will leave but this, in no way, guarantees that Meyer will stay at UF for the remainder of the terms. I’ve had to oppurtunity to read a few coaching contract (actually they put them up on the internet now). All the legal jargin is quite impressive but the language of these contracts fills them with so many loopholes that it is usually fairly easy to get out of one. I’m sure the newly minted 4 million dollar man had the best team of lawyers money can buy.

TommyJack

August 4th, 2009
11:09 am

Same as most years. Richt will do less with more.

The Big Gator

August 4th, 2009
11:10 am

Check the following site to verify that Florida is the 2009 Preseason National Champs (like UGA was in 2008 – but I think Florida will end the season a lot closer to Number 1 than UGA did last year) – http://www.lsufootball.net/articles/2009-preseason-polls.htm

Gator Mater

August 4th, 2009
11:13 am

I’m sorry, but Tim Tebow is just a FB playing at the QB position. He will be, at best, a third round pick in the draft.

In the Know

August 4th, 2009
11:13 am

Urban Meyer can not coach an I-formation offense. The only thing he knows is the spread…..thats all he’s ever coached. His team will fail when they go to the I- formation because his players, with exception of Tebow,are not better athletes than those found at other SEC top tier schools and will not be able to just push other teams around. The spread offense has been successful because it presents mismatches based on speed. I personally think Meyer is really going to miss Dan Mullen calling the plays and running the Florida offense.Right now Urban is just so full of himself that he thinks he’s invincible an he can do anything and be successful. Only time will tell, but I think he’s setting himself up for failure.

DawginLex

August 4th, 2009
11:15 am

tommyjack the tool,

“Same as most years, richt will do less with more”?????

Try ending the year ranked higher than the preseason polls 7 of his 8 years in athens with 2008 being the exception.

Did you go to Tech and get that fine edumacation????????????

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
11:16 am

G8R GRAD—-Check the second page of Tony’s Friday blog. I posted top-10 football and overall athletics revenue with links to the sources.

kmarkvii

August 4th, 2009
11:18 am

Here’s my burning question-will Georgia lead the SEC in penalties again this year?

Matt

August 4th, 2009
11:19 am

The Big Gator:

I’ve seen that spread sheet before and still laugh when I see one ranking having LSU at 3. Not even I would rank LSU 3 (or top 10 for that matter). I do believe though that UF will do better than UGA did last with handling all the presure of being a consensus #1 pick. However, it is going to be very, very tough for them to go wire to wire this year.

I saw an interesting stat today that I have not had the time to look up so maybe someone can help me. It said that UF has never been a regular season #1 in the BCS. Is this true?

Kim Z's package

August 4th, 2009
11:20 am

UGA will be on a new QB by the 3rd game and will be 3rd in the SEC East by the end of the season. Tech can’t pass and UGA can’t cover, Tech can run and UGA can’t tackle. It should be fun. Can we play the game at night, so the UGA fans have to walk off-campus to their cars after the game? A UGA fan getting Mugged and Violated twice in a day would make my New Year.

BurningRedBleedingBlack

August 4th, 2009
11:22 am

Gator zone i hope the db play with alot more heart than last year, we have some veterans, but lot of new faces. Cox will play good , he’s way better leader compared to Stafford, We need to be a team again. We all saw what happens when a team comes together for one common goal(UF)national champs. Gator Zone do you feel like the running game will be a major role this year for the gators since FLA has such a wide range of great backs this year. Urban will not leave he wants leave great things behind him when he retires. Hopefully we will all have a smooth, healty, fun season. Can’t wait!!!

Kim Z's package

August 4th, 2009
11:23 am

doginlex did UGA finish higher than your expatations in any of those years?

Old Dawg

August 4th, 2009
11:25 am

It’s obvious CMR is tired of hearing his team is soft, so they’re taking an Erk Russell approach where every play is the last play in the world. To do that, nobody backs down and everyone plays like a warrior on fire. With the leadership displayed throughout off-season workouts it’s obvious UGA has a major chip on its shoulder to prove they can play with the other top programs in the SEC and OK State.

Whether that equates to more wins is anyone’s guess. But the opposite colored jerseys better be prepared for wiping snot bubbles off their face masks!!

MoDawg

August 4th, 2009
11:30 am

I think there may be too much in the Gators going to the I-Formation to “sell” Tim Tebow to the NFL. They should be careful not to make it all about Tebow and getting him to the next level as a QB, and make it more about winning games and the future of the program.

I’m just saying that by hearing all the time about moving to the I for Tebow’s sake might be misleading and detract from the real focus of the future. I know Tebow is God’s Gift to us all, but putting a round peg in a square hole won’t be easy.

It’s good that they start with a couple of VERY beatable opponents. (Good for them, bad for my Dawgs?)

DawginLex

August 4th, 2009
11:33 am

Yes KZP, they did. Especially 2002 and 2005 when we were SEC champions. 2005 especially-breaking in a new QB, opening up with a non-con opponent that was supposed to wax us.

dawgfan1911

August 4th, 2009
11:34 am

My only comments are for the bulldawgs and gators. The bulldawgs better go hard at practice. This soft lets not get injured approach is stupid! If they recruit as good as they say they do, they should have some flexibility. They also need to look at their stregth and conditioning coach. The Gators talk a lot of smack, but their schedule is as vanilla as Penn State who should go undefeated. Imagine, Penn State versus Florida in the BCS Championship game! What a snoozer! Tell Urban to schedule a tough road non conference game and then we will see how tough thry are.

G8R GRAD

August 4th, 2009
11:39 am

Atlanta Gator:

Found the article.

Search engines are a wonderful thing.

Will

August 4th, 2009
11:41 am

On Sept 5 a new leader in supremacy in the SEC will emerge…That team, the UGA Bulldogs. You will see speed, depth and a hunger to win at every position. You will see a nastiness on defense that resembles the UGA squad of 02′. Marcus Washington will replace Brandon Spikes as the defensive player of the year as well. With this schedule, I think a 1-loss UGA team finally squeaks into the national championship game vs Will Muschamp’s Texas.

G8R GRAD

August 4th, 2009
11:42 am

Oh, and THANKS.

Tony Barnhart

August 4th, 2009
11:42 am

Thanks for the catch on Lennon Creer. Yes, he left the program. I meant to say Tauren Poole, who had a couple of decent games (9 carries vs. UAB, 11 carries vs.Wyoming) last season.
TB

Randy Quaid

August 4th, 2009
11:42 am

I can’t wait for the season to start. Tech fans, last time I checked this blog has nothing to do with Tech or the Almost Counts Conference but yet you come on here just to talk trash. try to respect a rival, you’ll grow as a fan. I m impressed with the gator fans that have shown respect. The real fans out there know that when UGA, FLA, BAMA,LSU, AUB, Ole miss, and tenn play each other, there is a good chance the underdog can win. those top four have been in the top of the recruiting rankings the past 3 or 4 years so they have talent to play with each other. my take, fla is loaded on D, offense has tebow, but Fla will miss the player that helped tebow get to where he is today, Percy Harvin. LOuis Murphy will be missed too. Lsu- lost a lot on the D line, great secondary. Good o line, their QB has not seen a quality D yet. Bama, losing the 3 linemen will hurt more than people realize, especially Smith. QB is untested and if he couldn’t beat out JPW, I wouldn’t be too confident. Solid on D. UGA, solid on o line. need people to step up at WR and RB but has the talent to do so. Their D will suprise people this year. these four teams are the contenders for the SEC. Ole miss has the skill players but lost two big men on Off & Def. Aub will play everyone tough but will come up short due to lack of offense. tenn will have a good d and o line but the QB isn’t good. the WR’s are average. the sec west will be decided in a tie breaker. Only one more month!!!

Frozen_Gator

August 4th, 2009
11:43 am

The Urb man seems to be somewhat like Coach Bryant in that he is not afraid to adapt his offense to the times and personnel

uga has talent, they will be a challenge, I think they will be more conservative because they have a covey of fine backs and the QB is untested and doesn’t have a “million dollar” arm

ut is a giant ? who knows

It’s very sad for me to watch USCe

DawginLex

August 4th, 2009
11:50 am

trade school flunkie,

UT has no QB. They have no depth at DL or LB. The secondary has Berry and not much else. Monte kiffin or not, you have to have personnel to play his scheme. When teams line up and ram it down their throats, no scheme in the world is going to stop that. The UT guys in Nashville are saying that the defense won’t be as good as last year because of lack of personnel.

They might go 7-5 but 2nd in the east is only predicted by you because of your UGA hatred. Why don’t you go back to the nerd blog where you might actually can type something that has a little bit of validity to it?

SEC Grab Bag O’ The Day | MrSEC.com

August 4th, 2009
11:52 am

[...] a good read — tosses out five burning questions from the SEC East in his latest post.  You can read his explanations here, but these are his questions:1.  Is Georgia REALLY going to get after it in the preseason?2.  Is [...]

Gen Neyland

August 4th, 2009
11:54 am

CharlotteGator : We’ll all be watching for the jump pass out of the I-formation…I know it’s said to be one game at a time, but Meyer and/or Florida has to be sneaking a look toward life after Tebow…

Gatorzone

August 4th, 2009
11:58 am

Frozen, hopefully he will stay at UF like Bryant did at Alabama.
I expect a much bigger role on offense for Moody especially during I formation plays. UF should use more of a smash mouth approach this year while still having the breakaway speed at WR and scat backs. It should be a wide variety on offense.

athensdawg

August 4th, 2009
12:05 pm

UGA’s “injury problems” are due to a lack of depth. The lack of depth is due to insufficient recruiting…particularly along the lines. We seem to be able to get skill players out the wazoo, but we cannot recruit depth at the “grunt” positions, which are key to being able to dominate, particularly in the SEC. We haven’t had an full time offensive line since 2002. Seven years later, we might just have an offensive line that can play every game….

Here’s the burning questions about UGA:

1. Will there be a rash of injuries during fall practice (shoulder, knees, etc.?)
2. Will Richt (as he does every year) “take it easy” on the players after a “big win” and then we come out flat as a pancake? (First test: If UGA wins vs. OSU, watch out vs. USC.)
3. Will Mike Bobo realize that he doesn’t have M. Stafford at quarterback, and start calling a ball control, David Green type of game?
4. Can CWM redeem himself from last year’s debacle?

If we can get positive answers to all of these questions, we might just be a darkhorse in the SEC East……..if just one is negative, we might be spending bowl season in Shreveport.

Matt

August 4th, 2009
12:09 pm

Gatorzone:

Sounds like UF will try to do the same thing LSU has been doing to past couple of years of offense. They line up and play smashmouth football but at the same time have the speedy athletes to create mismatches. LSU will use Russell Shepard a lot this year in a Harvin type roll. I however, don’t think UF is set up to play a lot of smashmouth football right now. Meyer has been recruiting for the spread his entire career and especially with Tebow at UF. You’ll need a good strong FB and a big RB. Can Moody be a power back? I guess time will only tell. I don’t see the o-line having a problem playing power ball. Should be interesting though to watch Tebow’s progression throughout this season.

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hmmmm.......

August 4th, 2009
12:12 pm

urban’s buyout is 500,000

Gen Neyland

August 4th, 2009
12:14 pm

DawginLex : UT’s defense extends further than Berry although there are some gaps that need filling. I believe you’ll be surprised. I read the same thing from the naysayers you do, but I also read what they’re working on. BTW, in the 2007 SECCG, UT had 4 Freshmen playing coverage in the 4th quarter with the game still on the line. 3 of those 4 are returning this season.

Voice of Reason

August 4th, 2009
12:15 pm

funny that everyone thinks that Meyer’s new contract ensures that he will not go to ND. He is still paid less than the current ND coach who hasn’t been very good at all. The buyout in his new contract is also only $500K. Sounds like he left the option open to me.

The Ole Miss Blog

August 4th, 2009
12:18 pm

Take a look at the new trailer for The Blind Side, a movie about Ole Miss offensive lineman Michael Oher, at The Ole Miss Blog.

http://www.theolemissblog.com

gbal

August 4th, 2009
1:06 pm

Will UGA get after it in practice???? This is a burning question??? WOW

bigreddawg

August 4th, 2009
1:12 pm

The only question that matters is the first and the answear is yes, them Dawgs are going to git after it. Look, we may have a few less options than most years but it’s the DAWGS we’re talking about. We don’t re-build, we RE-LOAD.

I predict our 6th NATIONAL CHAMPTIONSHIP!

co dawg

August 4th, 2009
1:12 pm

atlanta gator…

notre dame has a 6 billion dollar endowment and it’s a private institution. trust me, if it comes down to $$, notre dame can and will compete. 500k buyout is nothing. notre dame has proven it will pay as well. weiss has been an improvement but still not worth that contract. and meyer has an ego. notre dame is the challenge. from the weather to academics to the unbelievable expectations. florida has high expectations but that’s only since the 90s. notre dame’s high expectations go back generations. the demise of the program is driving the fans absolutely mad.

anyhow, i’m really excited about the season. ready for the dawgs to silence ok st…again. i hear enough about the big 12 in colorado. go dawgs!

AC

August 4th, 2009
1:19 pm

Will UF still be the same without Harvin? I know that people say they have this quick back and this speedy reciever, but go back two seasons when UGA beat UF. UF’s offense was NOT the same without Harvin. He is a very special player. Perhaps even more important than Tebow himself.

[...] Five burning questions about the SEC East “Is Tennessee REALLY going to throw these rookie running backs into the fire right away? This much we know about Tennessee

Bill' Sass

August 4th, 2009
1:26 pm

Percy Harvin was no doubt a huge piece of the puzzle on offense last season. But we did put up 31 points against the best defense we played last year- Alabama- when he was out injured.

ReptilesRule

August 4th, 2009
1:36 pm

To you Bulldog fans posting here about Tim Tebows future draft status… THANKS FOR MAKING MY POINT!!! (please see my earlier post). And now I’m hearing that Meyer’s contract has no meaning because of the buyout and that you are still spewing that ND nonsense? Well, I’m glad that recruits out there are a lot smarter than you are and won’t be buying the lies that Mark Richts coaching staff was trying to feed them (see Matt Elam). But thats OK Doggies, keep on worrying more about Tebow and Meyer and we’ll just keep showing up in Jacksonville.

GatorGuy

August 4th, 2009
1:45 pm

**In the Know** Urban cannot coach and be successful with the I? Really? I think Chris Leak, Billy Lasko and DeShawn Winn would disagree. They all have big fat National Championship rings.

Dawg FAn

August 4th, 2009
1:51 pm

The Athens Wal-Mart has jean shorts for $16 tax free this weekend. I’m going to get an early start on my game day outfit.

Matt

August 4th, 2009
1:52 pm

GatorGuy:

Watchout Bama fans might start saying Meyer won with Zook recruits. That’s their favorite comeback.

NYD

August 4th, 2009
1:55 pm

FYI, Brett Upson (Vandy’s Punter) was the MVP of the Music City Bowl, not Larry Smith (who had his first career start in the bowl game).

Otto

August 4th, 2009
2:01 pm

Salary is not the only thing that hires a coach, facilities and recruiting base are important as well. ND is missing the last 2 which is why they had to hire someone from outside CFB and they did not even get a head coach.

UF will be interesting. Yes Urban ran more of a power football style with Leak. The question mark is how important was Mullen? Nobody will know until the season is off and rolling. I do think Moody has to be eager to take advantage of the change. If the OC can get the game plan down, Moody could have a big year.

Bama, I would not concern myself with McElroy not getting the job over JP. JP may not have been the best QB in terms of talent or mechanics but he was the leader of a team who faced many challenges. JP had the respect of the team and that is something that can not be coached. Saban and Shula both knew that. McElroy has the talent to win and if that big Bama OL gels (which they should) Bama will be in the race for the West.

Tenn looks to be hurting, no depth at WR, DL, or LB, Fr RBs, and Monte has to boil his defense down to something that a college player can execute with much less practice time than the NFL. Alot of variables in a tough division. UT dropping 5 or 6 games would not surprise me in the least.

UGA’s 2 biggest questions are the secondary and “3. Will Mike Bobo realize that he doesn’t have M. Stafford at quarterback, and start calling a ball control, David Green type of game?” Lets hope he does. UGA needed the 5+ min. game killing drives last year. The kicking game should help the field position battle which would help greatly.

Shelbz W- Cherokee, Alabama

August 4th, 2009
2:04 pm

I think the no huddle will work good for Vanderbilt and here is 3 reasons why.

1. Probable QB Larry Smith ran it in high school at Pratville AL and is used 2 it and ran Hoover out of its string of 5 strait state championchips.
2. It will also make up for the talent differental. Look at how Baylor uses it 2 its advantage….all they have is a fast qb in Robert Griffen and they sometimes just rush him undercenter when the defense isnt ready and run qb sneak for an 5 to 15 yard gain.
3. Noone else in the confrence really uses it….Florida is really the only other team that uses it so it will be somthing else 2 get ready for……LSU better be ready because with Vandys experience and LSU’s lack of it there is a great chance for another real program changing upset for the DORES.

GOD BLESS
and GO DORES

JoeV

August 4th, 2009
2:04 pm

7. Will USuC continue to suck?

YES.

Shelbz W- Cherokee, Alabama

August 4th, 2009
2:06 pm

ohh and Brett Upson was the MVP of the music city bowl…..Larry Smith was just a big reason why they won.

Big XII

August 4th, 2009
2:09 pm

You Georgia fans are the most delusional of all fans ever. 1 national championship? Thats the same as Georgia Tech and you claim to be a much better program than Tech……Oh, and the SEC? The Big XII has more national championships that the SEC….

co dawg

August 4th, 2009
2:12 pm

hey ReptilesRules…lighten up francis. perhaps you should let the big boys have a discussion.

college football is a big money maker and buyouts are in place as a deterrent for breaking a contract. the reality, 500k is not much of a deterrent these days. and there are plenty of coaches that have said ‘i am not leaving’ only to turn around and bolt. the sec has a few right now.

so while florida’s program is clearly firing on all cylinders right now, notre dame is a different beast all together. i don’t necessarily like it. it’s just a fact. notre dame is national news whether the program is good or bad. florida only makes national news when the team contends. and that’s same for georgia or any other sec team for that matter. and no, bama, you are no different. sorry.

now reptile, if you want the meyer – notre dame conversation to end, break out your blue and gold and start shaking your pom poms for charlie and company. unless weiss starts winning consistently, the media will not let the meyer to notre dame story end. that’s just the way it’s going to be.

Tideman

August 4th, 2009
2:13 pm

Hey Gator Guy, Apparently you don’t watch your team very closely when they play. Chris Leak ran a spread offense when he was at Florida with Meyer coaching. If my memory serves me correctly Georgia beat Florida once when he was the QB with Zook(I-formation) as coach and should have beaten them again after Meyer(spread offense) took over. They only lost by seven because Shockley was out with an injury. Better cross your fingers…the Gators are way over rated. Mullen was the glue that held your team together…you’ll find that out soon enough.Meyer can’t coach anything but a spread offense!

Oklahoma St 45 UGA 3

August 4th, 2009
2:15 pm

Yep…..Thats the score!

reservoirDAWG

August 4th, 2009
2:20 pm

Just because Gundy is a man doesn’t mean the pokies have a shot.

mgoodr00

August 4th, 2009
2:22 pm

Florida – Moody will have a big year and at season’s end might be considered one of the best backs in the country. Interesting note on him: he was recruited to Southern Cal by Lane Kiffin and decided to transfer after Kiffin left for Oakland. The defense is very strong up the middle and really fast on the edges. Intimidation is what the Gators do best. Having Spikes and Tebow on your side will give any team pause.

Georgia – The Dawgs appear to be a “team” this year. Joe Cox knows the offense inside and out. He is a superb game manager. The question ultimately for Georgia will come on defense. Can they get pressure on the QB? Marlon Brown and AJ Green will be one of the best wr duos in the country by years end.

Tennessee – Two qualities will return to rocky top: maximum effort and swagger. The players love playing for the staff, and respect them just as much. The defense and the team feed off of Eric Berry. Like Tebow his talent and determinatiion makes everybody around him better. Look for NuKesse Richardson to make a big impact on offense and special teams.

South Carolina – As mentioned the offensive line woes will hurt them on the road. Garcia is not a bad quarterback. However, being a pocket passer, and having to run for your life don’t mix well. Should be a tough team to beat at home in the early part of the year.

Kentucky – The Wildcats are a solid bunch and are coached well. They should continue to give teams trouble at home and on the road. May challenge South Carolina for the 4th spot in the East.

Vanderbilt – Another well coached bunch. I doubt teams will take them lightly again after their early success last year. Bobby Johnson has found a niche in Nashville. His success will most likely earn him an opportunity to coach a big time program in the near future.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
2:23 pm

Matt,

You just can’t let the Bama resentment go can ya? I figured you could only hold out so long before you started taking snipes. I saw your post last night about Saban “living in the past” because he is starting to dress like bear bryant. I about fell out of my chair laughing. Didn’t see Saban wearing a houndstooth or those old polyester pants the bear used to wear but I guess you did.

I also kinda wondered. Just how much Alabama sports radio does an LSU fan really listen to anyway? If that statement is true then its very odd. But being a Bama fan who actually does listen to Bama sports radio I can tell you that bear is mentioned occasionally in passing reference but since most fans don’t even remember him its not a subject to dwell on like you imagine it to be.

Also, I found it rather difficult to believe you when you say most Bama fans you talk to still talk a lot about the bear or that when you listen to Alabama sports radio they talk about the bear a lot. That statement just sounds like some tired old line that people used to say in the 80s after bear retired and died.

Common sense dictates that if the man has been dead 27 years and if you’re 40 years old you would have been only 13 to remember his last season. The people that remember him fairly well are people in the late 40s, 50s, and 60s. Either A) you’re talking to and hanging out with a lot of old Bama geezers who want to ignore the season we just had as well as the great run under Stallings throughout the 90s or B) You’re just regurgitating the old myth about Bama fans digging up the bear because you can’t think of anything better to say. I’m inclined to believe the latter.

If you want to be insulting then that’s fine. But just get some fresh, new material. The part about probation was funny and it is true. We are yet again on probation although this time its paper tiger probation with no schollies lost or serious sanctions.

As for us being terrible this past decade I would argue that the past 10 years was the worst 10 year run in our history. In that span we still had an sec title, 4 double digit winning seasons 99,02,05,08, 2 division titles and 3 that we won on the field(we won the division outright in 2002 but were ineligible due to probation). Even in our darkest period ever we still had some success.

In my lifetime I’ve never seen us have back to back losing regular seasons. You have the distinction of watching LSU have 6 consecutive losing seasons from 89 though 95. That can happen at LSU but could never happen at Alabama. That is the difference between the 2 programs.

Otto

August 4th, 2009
2:28 pm

Waiting for Matt’s comeback……

Got 12 but none in quite a long long time ....

August 4th, 2009
2:32 pm

Tide Rising….the big difference between bama and LSU…in fact every team in the SEC….is the bama is on probation every year.

buckblue

August 4th, 2009
2:35 pm

Tide Rising…win something of relevance and then you can bark….seems like you have forgotten about Utah and UF games….when was the last time bama won the SEC football championhsip? BCS Championship?

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
2:37 pm

Got 12 but none in quite a long time,

You need to learn something. Practically every time in the west has been on probation in the last 10 years. Auburn in the 90s, Ole Miss twice and they just got off, Miss St just got off, Ark is on probation right now just like us. Georgia was on once in the 90s and Florida suffered devastating probation similar to ours in the 80s. Also, I believe South Carolina was on probation in the 2000s although I’m not sure. We never went on probation till the 90s and since then have been hit twice most recently for students gaming the textbook distribution process. Big freaking deal! Probation happens and sooner or later it happens to just about everyone.

war eagle

August 4th, 2009
2:37 pm

LSU has beaten the tide 7 of the last 10 years…..Auburn has beaten bama 6 of the last 7…….calm down TR and cool your jets….

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
2:40 pm

Otto,

I would like to tell you to stick around. That it may get interesting. But Matt aint got nothing but the usual old tired gibberish. LSU has one great 5 year run in its history due mostly to Saban the man he now hates and so now Matt acts like LSU has always been this and that. Truth is we’re gonna relegate them right back to 2nd tier status. We’ll just have to worry about you dawgs and the gators. And of course Auburn and UT. Those are solid programs and will eventually make their way back. Maybe sooner then we think.

ReptilesRule

August 4th, 2009
2:40 pm

co dawg…You know, if you hit that key that says “Shift” you could actually start your sentences off with caps. Or just hit the Caps Lock and go so you don’t look so much like a product of the Georgia educational system.

Got 12 but none in quite a long long time ....

August 4th, 2009
2:41 pm

bama will have been on probation 20+ years once this latest stint ends…practically every team in the West has been on probation….?? Get real…that justifies bama staying on probation? put your crack pipe down dog.

Big XII

August 4th, 2009
2:43 pm

HAHAHAHA….The Bama fan justifying a sucky team because they have been on probation…..Where I am from, we call that cheaters never prosper!

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
2:45 pm

war eagle,

I don’t bust on Auburn precisely because they’ve beaten us 6 out of 7. People on here know I never really get down on Auburn. I give them their due respect and the fact that the overall head to head series is competitive between the 2.

Buckblue,

You’re an LSU homer who has made just as many silly comments about Bama as Matt. And just like Matt all you can do is live vicariously through Utah and Florida. That’s weak man. But at least we were competitive with the gators and led the game in the 4th qtr. How competitive were you with them? 51-21. You can talk smack about Utah and Fla 2 teams who collectively finished 26-1 and 1-2 in the polls and I’ll talk about the 5 teams that whupped you including 3 by blowout proportions.

dog pound

August 4th, 2009
2:46 pm

Tide rising….you need to chill….bama has not won anything of importance since…Nixon was President….win the SEC this year…which will give you a BCS birth….and then you can rule this website…until then….you aint’ got jack to sqawk about…..

BlackMagic84

August 4th, 2009
2:47 pm

Your forgot the most interesting question about South Carolina football.
Q. How many baggies of weed does it take to be kept off a Spurrier football team?
A. At least 24 because we know 23 still gets Cheech Axon on the team.

Rebel Rouser

August 4th, 2009
2:48 pm

Here are my predictions for the upcomming football season:

Florida 10-2 Ole Miss 10-2
Georgia 10-2 LSU 10-2
S.Carolina 7-5 Alabama 9-3
Tenn. 6-6 Arkansas 7-5
Vandy 5-7 Auburn 5-7
Kentucky 5-7 Miss St. 4-8

SEC Championship
Florida beats Ole Miss by seven

Games of interest
Florida beats Tenn. by 24 points
Florida beats S. Carolina by 17 points
Georgia beats Ok.State by 14 points
Georgia beats Ga Tech by 17 points
Georgia beats Florida by 4 points
Florida beats LSU by 10 points
LSU beats Bama by 8 points
Va. Tech beats Bama by 10 points
Ole Miss beats Bama by 14 points
Ole Miss beats LSU by 10 points
Bama beats Auburn by 17 points
S.Carolina beats Georgia by 1 point
S.Carolina beats Ole Miss by 5 points
Tennessee beats S.Carolina by 7 points
Arkansas beats Georgia by 3 points
Florida State beats Florida by 7 points

National Championship
Texas beats Ohio State by 17 points

Heisman Trophy winner
Colt McCoy-Texas

UTAH

August 4th, 2009
2:48 pm

Tide Rising…what ya got to say to me??

buckblue

August 4th, 2009
2:50 pm

Payroll Tide
Criminal Tide

Cheaters never win….

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
2:50 pm

Big 12, there’s nothing to justify. It is what it is. So what?

BTW, when are those vaunted Big 12 south offenses going to come and pay and visit and get their offenses completely shut down.

Oh yeah. I guess it all starts when the dawgs run over Ok state in the opener.

I still remember shutting down that TT offense in the cotton bowl a couple years ago in 06 13-10. What was it? OU was averaging over 60 pts a game in the defenseless big 12 before FLA held them to a paltry 14. Is that right? Did Ole Miss stomp on them red raiders or what? Didn’t Ok state get stomped on also in their bowl? Well, at least you got the powerful big 12 north holding up the conference. Not!!!! What a joke of a conference.

dog pound

August 4th, 2009
2:52 pm

Tide Rising….bama has been on probation how long?? Tell me it aint so…joe

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
2:53 pm

Utah,

I say that you’re a fine team, you whupped us good, and you deserve a lot of credit. Congrats on finishing 2nd in the country and being the nation’s only unbeaten at 13-0.

CharlotteGator

August 4th, 2009
2:54 pm

Tideman,

I really hope you were joking and/or being sarcastic. If so, I just wasted a minute of my life.

If not, I didn’t realize you were following the Gators so intently. I’d have to say I completely disagree with your post and find some of it humorous.

“They only lost by seven because Shockley was out with an injury.”

- Close, but the score in 2005 was 14-10. You must have missed that when you were breaking down the tape of the Gator offense with Ron Jaworski.

“Better cross your fingers…the Gators are way over rated.”

- Perfectly logical. They’re overrated just as USC and Miami (circa 2001, 2002) were this decade. Nice try, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard that argument from an honest objective fan of college football.

“Mullen was the glue that held your team together…you’ll find that out soon enough.”

- This is funny. Not sure how you missed it being such a huge UF follower, but the offensive gameplan is determined by UM, the OC, and all the offensive position coaches together. Additionally, every offensive coach has a headset on gameday and gets some varied level of input on what’s happening on the field. Not discrediting Mullen at all, he will be missed, however, his loss will be felt more in terms of his relationship with Tebow. Also, apparently his adhesive properties weren’t to great last year in the prep for the NC game since you know, he was off being the Miss. St. coach while the Gators were prepping for that game. Oh, but you are right, we will find out soon enough.

“Meyer can’t coach anything but a spread offense!”

- More humor. Ask any Gator fan with a pulse during the 2005 and 2006 seasons if he could coach anything but the spread. This is wishful thinking on your part and an attempt to discredit his success and obvious coaching ability.

Santa Nick

August 4th, 2009
2:55 pm

You guys need to take it easy on my boy TR…..he is getting amped up for football….it did not do him any good to see LSU win the Baseball Championhip this year…number 6. He can smell the gumbo brewing again on the bayou….

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
2:55 pm

dog pound. This our 3rd time. Once in the 90s and one time really bad in 02-05. Ouch. That was the one that really hurt. This last time was for a few players gaming the textbook distribution system to get free books for friends, girlfriends. Had to vacate some wins from the last few seasons when we sucked anyway. Who cares? It is what it is.

Big XII

August 4th, 2009
2:56 pm

Tide Rising…..I’m not sure what your point is……I do know this. Alabama will never be the program it once was…..Cheating didn’t help and now you have to rely on the local inbred talent to get you there…..See my point?

Paul The Vol

August 4th, 2009
2:57 pm

Realistically, Florida has so much talent and leadership back this year that they could run the Wing T and they only way they lose is to beat themselves or have a series of devastating injuries. If ever a team was setup to run the table, this is the team and this is the year. Everybody else is playing for the Sugar Bowl.

Utah

August 4th, 2009
2:57 pm

We not only whupped you real good…we busted dat elephant a@@ all game long….I thought Nick was gonna break a blood vessel or 2 yelling at his players …coaches….Tell me is that why Thompson and Steele quit??

dog pound

August 4th, 2009
2:59 pm

TR who do you pull for in the pros…..Falcons? Your boy JPW is looking good in camp

reservoirDAWG

August 4th, 2009
3:00 pm

Rebel Rouser, that list doesn’t add up. If both UGA and UF finish 10-2 with UGA beating UF than UGA would play in the SECCG.

Don Ho

August 4th, 2009
3:00 pm

Tide Rising

LSU had more than just one good 5 year run in their history. Some great years with Dietzel (the NC with his Chinese Bandits) and Coach McClendon, (”Cholly Mac”) also.

Good luck this season with the Tide.

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
3:02 pm

co dawg—-I saw your post, and just confirmed Notre Dame’s endowment being between $6 and $7 billion (give or take, given the present market). I had no idea ND was that well endowed . . . live and learn. Florida’s endowment was about $1.5 billion before the market tanked. Curious to know if ND’s endowment is available for athletic purposes; Florida’s is not. UAA is a self-sustaining private entity that receive no money from the state or the university’s general fund.

Rebel Rouser

August 4th, 2009
3:03 pm

reservoirDawg- not if Florida only loses one SEC game.

Fleischman in Chattanooga

August 4th, 2009
3:03 pm

Where is Nacho’s?

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
3:04 pm

Big 12,

My point is complete dominance over the big 12 or did you not get that when I read off the domination of your conference in the bowls. So we spent 5 weeks at no. 1 last year but will never be a great program again? Oooookay! Sounds logical.

Sooooooooooooo! We have to rely now on our local inbred talent to get us there! How in the world did you come up with such an intelligent, thoughtful point? You’re looking like a really fart smucker right about now!

Utah, Nice job of trying to act like you’re really a Utah fan. Come on out of your LSU shell or whatever you’re hiding under. Its okay to be Matt or buckblue again.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
3:07 pm

dog pound,

I’m a Falcons fan and quite frankly to hear that JP is doing well in camp is kinda shocking. I’m glad to hear it but I just can’t see him beating out someone like Shockley for the 3rd qb spot.

Kevin

August 4th, 2009
3:08 pm

29 more days til I head to Stillwater! The drive will be long but it should be a fun trip… We are going to take over Stillwater!!! GO DAWGS!!!!

Buzz Belle

August 4th, 2009
3:08 pm

to all you SEC guys, Texas is taking it this year! Sorry, but Fl will lose a big one, Ga will lose 2 in their conference alone. Teh Longhorns have what it takes and I agree with a previous poster that McCoy will get the Heisman. But, no way is ga. going to beat Tech by 17. No Way! PJ has your number and you know it.

Fleischman in Chattanooga

August 4th, 2009
3:10 pm

I miss Nacho’s. TB BRING BACK NACHOS!

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
3:16 pm

Santa Nick,

I am amped up football as evidenced by my trading barbs with the LSU homers today.

This morning I did it again. I stiff armed the mail lady on the way to the mail box. Tomorrow I just may tackle her as it gets closer to football season. The next day I may clothesline her. After that I may just tackle her after the whistle and invoke unsportsmanlike penalties. Hope she’s okay after the stiffarm this morning.

PTC DAWG

August 4th, 2009
3:18 pm

Georgia will be in the SEC race when they roll into Jax. I know UF is the big favorite, but there is a reason they play the games.

As far as Carolina/Tenn/KY/Vandy, let them fight it out for 3rd-6th.

gdawginkalamazoo

August 4th, 2009
3:19 pm

Atl Gator, You may have posted it already but what is your take on your new OC?

Bill' Sass

August 4th, 2009
3:21 pm

Rebel Rouser, you dunderhead, if UF and UGA have one loss each in the East and FLA’s loss is to GA then guess who goes to the SECCG? Georgia.

Your credibility is shot.

co dawg

August 4th, 2009
3:23 pm

reptile…

good lord, show at least an ounce of creativity. please put some thought into your heckles. give us something to appreciate. shift key for caps? that was just plain awful.

G8R GRAD

August 4th, 2009
3:25 pm

Atlanta Gator:

Still, the buyout on UM’s K is comparably small.
It does give one pause . . . . .

Rebel Rouser

August 4th, 2009
3:28 pm

Hey Bill Sass…your the idiot!I have Georgia losing to both Carolina and Arkansas…thats two loses in the SEC. I only have Florida losing to Georgia..thats one loss in the SEC.The other loss for Florida is aganist Fla. St…..it doesn’t matter where your losses come from when you play another SEC team, all wins and losses count in the division total…you need to pay attention.Your the one who looks like the idiot!

reservoirDAWG

August 4th, 2009
3:33 pm

Rebel, I didn’t see the scores, but UGA losing to Ark and USC?

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
3:40 pm

Someone suggested earlier that the Big XII has won more MNCs than the SEC. Ain’t so.

For the record, eight present members of the SEC have won a total of 26 MNCs (Alabama 11, Tennessee 4, Florida 3, LSU 3, Georgia 2, Arkansas 1, Auburn 1, Ole Miss 1). Five present members of the Big XII have won a total of 19 MNCs (Oklahoma 7, Nebraska 5, Texas 4, Texas A&M 2, Colorado 1).

If you only count major poll (AP and UPI/USAT/CNN/Coaches) championships since 1936 (the AP era), the Big XII edges the SEC 18 to 17.

In the BCS era, the SEC has won 5 BCS championships on the field, the Big XII has won 2. If you include the Bowl Alliance and Bowl Coalition match-ups, it gets a little bit closer: 7 MNCs for the SEC 7, 5 MNCs for the Big XII.

Overall, the SEC has appeared in 17 BCS bowls (Fiesta, Orange, Rose, Sugar), and has won 12 of 17. The Big XII has appeared in 16 BCS bowls, and has won 7 of 16.

I’m not saying they don’t play serious football in the Big XII, guys, but I have to give the edge to the SEC on this one.

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
3:46 pm

gdawg~zoo—-The Gators’ new OC Steve Addazio, you ask? Frankly, I don’t know enough about him to comment. I do know that the Gators’ offensive game-planning is very much a team effort that directly involves the head coach, the coordinator and all of the major position coaches. I could be wrong, but I think they’ll be fine. Guess we’re going to find out soon, huh?

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
3:48 pm

G8R GRAD,

It is a small buyout for Meyer so that right there tells you something . Same with Saban. He has no buyout but that’s probably because he heard about how demanding the culture is at Bama, how crazy the fan base is, and if it was too crazy he wanted the option of getting out without a buyout if the Bama people ticked him off.

Personally, I really can’t see Saban or Meyer ever going anywhere except ND if either of them ever leave. Saban is set and will probably retire from football period in the next 5-8 years and he probably just isn;t up to yet another rebuilding job at this age cause he’s in his late 50s. But if he ever were to go anywhere ND is the only name out there with the prestige that could draw him there. It wouldn’t be for the money and there isn’t anywhere else like Michigan, USC, etc. for him to go to for the foreseeable future that could pay Bama type money. NFL bridges are burned also. Plus nobody would really want Saban much anyway as he gets that much closer to retirement age.

As for Meyer he’s young and even his AD had acknowledged a year or 2 earlier that he thought Urban was way too restless to stay around for a real long time. I have a hard time seeing him at UF for 10 years or more although I would like to see him stay. I can see him staying 3-5 years and then possibly making the move to ND. ND is the single and only program that I can see taking Meyer from Florida and I don’t think it would be all about the money either.

I hate saying this but its true. As big time is Florida is right now there is only one ND. It was, is, and always will be the biggest name in college football regardless of the fact that they suck and have sucked for awhile now.

Bottom line though is that its pointless talk for at least another year anyway. ND has a notoriously easy schedule and looks in good shape to win anywhere from 9-11 games because their schedule is that incredibly weak. Even Weiss can’t screw this up and he will keep his job minimally for another year. So everyone can save the talk for at least another year.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
3:57 pm

Rebel,

Its not just the dawg fans. I have a really hard time seeing UGA losing to both ARK. and USCe. Where did you come up with that idea?

As for my boys losing by 10 pts to VT. I can see us losing a close game to them but double digits? Our defense alone keeps us in that one.

And you have us losing by 8 at home against LSU? Its a loseable game just like VT but you think we lose by 2 scores at home to a team that only won 3 conference games last year?

And you have us losing by a whopping 14 to Ole Miss? Are you serious? We could well lose this game also. I think it will be a tight, close game but 14 pts? To a team that we’ve beaten something like 16-17 out of the last 20 I’m guessing?

I know you’ve always disliked Bama from your previous posts and that’s fine. But I think you let your emotions get in the way of your picks.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
3:59 pm

Atlanta Gator,

Those stats seem wrong. Didn’t I tell you and Otto that we have 4 million national championships.

Anonymous

August 4th, 2009
4:35 pm

“Big XII,”

You’re clearly a blog troll and not an alum or fan of a Big XII school. If you were, you would NEVER, EVER, EVER mock another school for NCAA major infractions. EVER.

Since 1953 (when then NCAA started keeping records for this), the following Big XII schools have been cited for MAJOR INFRACTIONS:

Texas – 14 times

Texas A&M – 9 times

Nebraska – 7 times

Oklahoma – 7 times

Kansas – 6 times

Kansas State – 6 times

Baylor – 5 times

Colorado – 5 times

Oklahoma State – 4 times

Texas Tech – 2 times

Iowa State – 1 time

Do you remember why the Big 8 added 4 members and became the Big XII? Because the old Southwest Conference was crippled after virtually every conference member got drilled for NCAA major infractions in the 1980s.

Hush, child, you’re embarrassing yourself. You clearly do not know of what you speak.

The Big XII may be the one conference that makes the SEC look good in comparison.

Anonymous

August 4th, 2009
4:41 pm

For the record, Alabama has been cited 5 times for NCAA major infractions, which would put the Tide in a 3-way tie for 7th place in the Big XII.

Thanks for playing, though. LMFAO

Otto

August 4th, 2009
4:41 pm

The Big XII is also the only conference that can rival the SEC in challenging for national titles.

Tide Rising, I’m just glad to see a new resident PITA in place of the standard nerds, and gators. It is August and the standard smack is getting old. One more month…….

Got 12?

August 4th, 2009
4:42 pm

The Gator Bowl Committee just announced that they’re trying to replace their ACC tie-in with an SEC or Big 10 tie-in. Don’t worry, my ACC friends, it’s not gonna happen. There are alot of stipulations (involving the Capital One Bowl) that must be met for it to happen.

In my opinion, the Gator Bowl would be a giant step down compared to the Capital One Bowl.

Otto

August 4th, 2009
4:44 pm

Tide, CFBdatwarehouse list something liek 25. I’m not interested enough to look it up. It is great to get the OU fans going on other blogs with their claim for most AP titles. :)

Rebel Rouser

August 4th, 2009
4:45 pm

Tide Rising…you have always been delusional with your posts on here.In your mind the Tide has never lost and is still being coached by the Bear. Believe me….Saban is going to let you Bama fans down. He’s not as good as he has led you to believe. Bama should have never lost to Utah last year….also…Nice fake punt in the SEC Championship game…everyone in the stadium knew it was coming.Florida just toyed with Bama. Do you really think Bama was that much better than UGA last year? When Georgia woke up at halftime they completely outplayed Bama in the second half and could have won the game.Bama was up by 31 at half time and only won by nine. A better team would have crushed Georgia in the second half. As far as the Ole Miss game….the Rebels completely outplayed Bama from the middle of the third quarter on. They won’t let up in this years game at Ole Miss.Book it Bama will lose in Oxford this year!Wake up Bama fans your not as good as you think….you are in for a long year….I watched your games last year…you had to hold on to beat LSU a team Georgia spanked from the opening kickoff on the road.Keep thinking the glory days are back Bama fans…….last years season can be summed up easily….lucky ,lucky, lucky!

BG

August 4th, 2009
4:50 pm

What happens to UF this year if tebow gets hurt?

Otto

August 4th, 2009
4:57 pm

Ole Miss may beat Bama but I will be very surprised if it is by more than 10. Also a team coached by Nutt can’t be talking smack about another coach letting teams down.

Otto

August 4th, 2009
4:58 pm

Brantly comes in and UF still wins most of the games.

Rebel Rouser

August 4th, 2009
5:03 pm

Hey Otto…..where on this blog did anyone associated with the Ole Miss football team talk smack? You might as well place your bet in Vegas right now. Bama will lose at Oxford this season…book it!Its gonna happen and deep down all Bama fans know it!

Otto

August 4th, 2009
5:10 pm

Rebel I prefer to keep my money.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
5:13 pm

Rebel Rouser,

Let me give some points.

1) The bear is dead. Has been for 27 years. Its some rival fans like yourself that need to get over it and move on.

2) I never claimed ever that Saban was a “great” coach. Personally I think he’s a good coach who happens to be a great recruiter and his recruiting. That’s it. He is not the 2nd coming of bear bryant and you won’t hear it from me.

3)The fake kick against UF was called because the regular kicker was out with a concussion. A backup freshman who had never taken a snap was on the field. Saban, who I already acknowledged as a good but not great coach, openly admitted it was a bad call. But if it makes you feel better to pile on than so be it. Ditto for Utah.

4) I would hardly say that Florida “toyed” with us considering we were winning the game in the 4th qtr. What a silly statement. They are simply a greater and better team and rallied to win. Case closed.

5) I never said Bama was THAT much better than UGA last year. I have profound respect for Richt and the dog program and I think they are now one of the nation’s top 10, most consistent programs. You are ignorantly guessing that I hate the dogs which is simply not the case. I’ve lived in Atlanta 20 years now and I follow both UGA and Tech because they are the local teams. I wouldn’t call myself I big fan of either team but I do follow and respect both. If we could line right back up with GEORGIA of 08 and play 10 straight times they would probably win their fair share.

6) The Ole Miss-Bama game. We basically went up 24-0, got very complacent and ultra conservative in the 3rd qtr and basically just let Ole Miss back into the game. They made an early blowout a little bit close but bottom line as usual in this series is that we won. What’s the series record now? 45-9

7) LSU – We overcame numerous mistakes to LSU and still won a) We fumbled a td for a touchback as our wide receiver was crossing the goal line b) we fumbled a kickoff giving LSU a 20 yard short field for a td c) we drove the length of the field and missed a chip shot field goal as time expired because the kicker kicked it way too low as he later admitted and it got blocked d) We had a 32 yard td scramble by JP Wilson called back on a phantom holding call against Andre Smith which as the replay clearly showed and as the announcers all agreed was probably the touchiest holding call of the year. We overcame all these mistakes and bad bounces of the ball and still bet them in their house.

Lucky Lucky Lucky. In the regular season we didn’t have a close game. Ole Miss rallied to appear to make the game close but that was clearly not the case. Kentucky scored a consolation td with 30 seconds to appear to make that game close but it wasn’t really close at all. If you watched that game you would have noticed we doubled them up in yardage and only a series of Bama mistakes , penalties, and turnovers made a statistical blowout somewhat close. You obviously didn’t watch that game. That’s not luck. That’s just winning football when you win 12 games and none of them are really close. As a matter of fact going into the LSU game Bama had trailed by a total of 75 seconds the entire season. Learn some facts before you run your mouth.

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
5:21 pm

Tide Rising—-You made the mistake of raising the 4 million championships again. I will only raise this issue only one more time, and then we will never speak of it again. We are friendly rival fans here, and Alabama does have an impressive football history.

Got 12 National Championships? No, not really. Even allowing for the retroactive award of two MNC’s (1925, 1926), five to six years after the fact, Alabama can semi-legitimately claim a max of 11 MNC’s. Eliminate the two retroactively awarded by Houlgate, or whoever, and you’re down to 9. Who really believes that applying a statistical analysis five to six years later is a legitimate way to determine a national champion? Makes the AP and Coaches polls look great by comparison.

Now, let’s look at the 9 that are left:

1930 = split title with Notre Dame

1934 = split title with Minnesota

1961 = undefeated consensus poll champion, beat Arkansas in Sugar Bowl

1964 = split title with Arkansas, lost to Texas in Orange Bowl

1965 = split title with Michigan State

1973 = split title with Notre Dame, lost to Notre Dame in Sugar Bowl

1978 = split title with Southern Cal

1979 = consensus poll champion, 12-0, beat Arkansas in Sugar Bowl

1992 = consensus poll champion, 13-0, beat Miami in Sugar Bowl

Now, let’s apply some modern standards retroactively. That’s only fair, since Alabama claims 2 or 3 retroactive championships from the 1920’s, right?

Modern standards like not awarding a poll championship until after the bowls are played? As late as 1973, AP was still awarding its championship before the bowls. So, let’s eliminate the MNC’s for 1964 (lost to Texas in the Orange Bowl) and 1973 (lost to co-champion Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl). Now, Alabama is down to 7 MNC’s.

That leaves a total of 4 split-poll championships (1930, 1934, 1965, 1978) and 3 consensus poll championships (1961, 1979, 1992). I’ll concede that all 7 of those MNC’s are legitimate, if you’ll concede the point that it’s twice as hard to win a BCS title as it was to win a split title in the 1930’s, 1940’s, 1950’s, 1960’s and 1970’s.

Okay, still blog buddies, right? Seven legitimate titles? That’s not so bad . . . .

If it makes you feel any better, that 1992 Tide team that beat the Gators 28-21 in the first SEC Championship Game and proceeded to destroy Miami in the Sugar Bowl 34-13 may be one of the three or four best national championship teams of all time.

Embrace truth. It will set you free. = )

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
5:38 pm

Atlanta Gator,

I still like 4 million national titles better. Actually I don’t really concern myself with it. I could be mistaken but I read somewhere that its the NCAA record book that actually credits us with 17 titles like the 1941 title. I honestly don’t care if its 7,9, 11, or 12. It doesn’t really matter.

I’m much more prouder of the fact that over the last 100 years of football we are the winningest team in college football with 754 on the field wins, more bowls than anyone, and 3rd in alltime winning % according to stassen.com if we look at on the field wins. Forget about the disputed national titles. The other accolades are plenty for me.

I will throw in a counter argument below that I read on just one title such as the 1941 title. Of the 12 titles the school claims the 1941 is discounted as the weakest of the so called 12 titles. Its an interesting tidbit and gives a little perspective.

Apparently, the NCAA disagrees with Auburn fans on this point. The “NCAA Football Records Book” lists Alabama as the recipient of the national title under the Houlgate System in 1941. (You need Adobe Acrobat to view it. It’s free to download at this site.
Reference
Contrary to Auburn fans’ beliefs, the Houlgate System was not a fly-by-night poll overrun with Alabama supporters. In fact, it was a math-based system (like the current BCS formula) devised by Dick Houlgate, a Dartmouth math major. When first published in 1927, Houlgate’s system was the very first systematic approach to determining a national champion in college football history. It predated the next oldest system, devised by Dick Dunkel, by two years, and predated the AP poll by a decade. It was carried by The Football Thesaurus and Football Illustrated from coast to coast for thirty-two years. It is currently recognized not only by the NCAA, but also by most prestigious college football historians, publications and databases, including Sports Illustrated and the Internet-based College Football Data Warehouse and WAJL10.

Helluva Engineer

August 4th, 2009
5:44 pm

FREE NACHOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He can no longer post under his URL b/c he has been banned.

Please take a moment and visit http://www.freenachos.com

Jonathan Caines

August 4th, 2009
5:45 pm

If,”ifs and butts” were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry christmas!

yarddawg

August 4th, 2009
5:46 pm

Love it up here at college moma, SEND US SOME MONEY!

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
5:48 pm

Rebel Rouser,

I was wrong. We only lead the Ole Miss series 43-7 for an 86% winning percentage. We’ve won 5 in a row and 21 of the last 24 against the Rebels but you’re telling me you can “book it” that Ole Miss has already won the game. Its certainly a winnable game for them but not one that Bama fans think they’re gonna lose. Not by any stretch of the imagination. I hope you don’t do any betting on college football cause its obvious you wouldn’t do very well.

Rebel Rouser

August 4th, 2009
5:48 pm

Hey Tide Rising….Once again always making an excuse for close wins or loses…..can’t you just man up and admit the facts. I watched the LSU game..Bama was lucky to win…period!Bama is not and was not as good as you make them out to be.Tulane even pushed Bama around for most of the game and if Bama was so great last year why was the Kentucky game as close as it was? Because Kentucky stuck it to Bama thats why. They never let you take total control. Great teams take control. Admit it, quit making excuses.Bama will lose to Va Tech…they will be better prepared are better coached than Bama….you will lose to LSU….better athletes on both sides of the ball and you will lose to Ole Miss….believe me..its going to happen and when it does once again the Bama fans will make excuses and point fingers. Saban teams have a history of disappointing their fans…his teams at Bama won’t be any different!

Otto

August 4th, 2009
5:50 pm

Atlanta Gator, We have been over the 12 titles. I posted a list the barners like to pass around busting the titles. You discount titles where Bama lost a bowl after the title but Bama does not get credit where they may have won a title after the bowls. The final rankings were often posted before the bowls. As Tide said it does not really matter. Bama has the highest winning percentage in the SEC and their numerous bowl wins easily puts them as one of the top programs historically.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
5:50 pm

helluva engineer,

Did nachos really get banned? I think you just like him cause all he did was raz dog fans and constantly bring up the blackout game. I was even tired of him although he was funny in that juvenile sort of way. Kinda like Matt or Rebel rouser.

yarddawg

August 4th, 2009
5:51 pm

what was the name of the guy that was the sec commisioner before mike slive?
where was he from? and how long was he commisioner?

Otto

August 4th, 2009
5:54 pm

VT better prepared than Bama. have you kept up with VT? VT has had numerous arrests over the past few years and tend to choke when they just about have the ACC locked up. Saban has far more experience winning big games than Beamer. It is sad to see a SEC fan even suggest VT is at the level of being coached clearly better than Saban.

yarddawg

August 4th, 2009
5:54 pm

Was it Birmingham? I heard that? But not real sure?

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
5:57 pm

Tide Rising—-You’re writing for the Peanut Gallery. I already know the Houlgate System’s history. It was an interesting statistical endeavor to reconstruct a ranking of college football teams retroactively, but it’s just bizarre that any school would claim those top rankings as “championships.” Too many intangibles, too many misplaced/overlooked/inaccurate statistics, and the further back in time, the less reliable the data and the analysis became for a whole lot of reasons.

As I understand it, Dick Houlgate originally only applied his statistical formula to the then-current year and the year immediately before. And then, at the suggestion of several football coaches, popped his formula into Mr. Peabody’s Way-Back Machine and started ranking national champions back to the 1880’s!

Heck, do you really believe that Princeton was legitimately the retroactive champion 28 times?

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
5:59 pm

Rebel rouser,

I guess you’re just reduced to complaining now not about our wins but about the margin of victory of our wins not impressing you. Jeez! You’re a tough audience to please.

Regarding LSU I just gave you 4 bounces of the ball that went clearly against Bama and yet we still managed to win. So what bad bounces of the ball or penalties or missed calls went against LSU that cost them the game. Stick to the facts buddy or have you just got your own unsubstantiated, emotional opinion as to why LSU really should have won that game.

You’re the same type of guy that would blame the LSU loss to UGA on 2 pick 6 tds and then act like a pick 6 return for a td is just luck and that playing good D has nothing to do with it.

I enjoy your posts though. Its funny to watch you just rant and rave like a ticked off hating anti Alabama fan. Hate is one powerful emotion and you are proof of that.

In the Know

August 4th, 2009
6:08 pm

Tide Rising….its easy to live in the past…where have you guys been the last ten years? One good season nad all you Bama fans come back out of the woodwork. I agree with Rebel Rouser. I think Bama loses at Ole Miss this season and also loses to LSU. Quit living in the past…who cares what Bama did thirty years ago…what have you done lately..not much!Did you win the SECCG..NO…Did you win the Sugar Bowl…NO….Will Bama go undefeated this season…NO….will you win the SEC West…NO….Will Bama lose at Ole Miss….YES! Have fun this season!

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
6:11 pm

In the know,

I guess you’re just latching onto that old tired song and dance about “living in the past”. Don’t need to. I’m excited about this upcoming season and the future in particular. Judging by your comment you’re just upset that we did have a great season last year and are back to some degree.

yarddawg

August 4th, 2009
6:11 pm

But we did drill those jawga dawgs azz

yarddawg

August 4th, 2009
6:13 pm

Roy Kramer, thats his name, come on Vince lets talk about him, you know you told me, and bill curry and pat and a bunch more that i will not say at this time

yarddawg

August 4th, 2009
6:14 pm

Best thing to ever happen to SEC, hire a commisioner that is not from any state in the conference? Hello?

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
6:16 pm

Atlanta Gator,

Thanks to Otto it is true that for every time we got a title like 73 where we lost the bowl game there were a couple of years where we unjustly didn’t win the title. 1977 and 1966 especially really stand out. The 1966 team getting robbed was the worst of all time. Any objective person looking at that year would agree and several books were written about that team and that year.

ReptilesRule

August 4th, 2009
6:19 pm

I personally don’t care exactly how many titles Bama has. All I know is that they have a very proud tradition and have won a bunch of them. That’s good enough for me. Hopefully, one day all Gators can look back and see that they have established that kind of tradition but it will be awhile. In the meantime, our time has definitely come and is here and I’m just going to enjoy every minute of it!!

HT

August 4th, 2009
6:23 pm

Bryce Brown wasn’t the number one player in the country for nothing. Nor was he brought to Tennessee to pass block. Watch this dude. He is bad!

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
6:30 pm

Reptilesrule,

Thanks man. Hopefully we’ll keep rising back to the level of giving you some good competition like in the 90s. We had some great games back then even if you guys did win more.

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
6:39 pm

Otto—-Please don’t misunderstand me. I never said Alabama wasn’t one of the very best all-time college football programs. Any legitimate ranking system places them in the top 5, most place the Tide in the top 2 (usually with Notre Dame).

My point was that Alabama’s MNC total is inflated. The fact that others do it, too, doesn’t make it more believable. It just adds to the comedy of it all–multiple teams calling themselves “champion” for the same seasons.

Please count the Tide’s total wins. Count the Tide’s all-time winning percentage. Count the Tide’s 21 SEC championships won on the field. But recognize that the MNC stats are somewhat inflated, and not entirely defensible. That’s all I’m saying.

I used to make a living from arguing, in a context that you wouldn’t guess (that is, I was not a trial lawyer). Rule one, however, is never overstate your argument. Not even a little. Because it gives your opponents the opportunity to question the legitimacy of everything else you have said. Best to say, “you may have a point,” and move on.

Personally, I believe that, one day, we will look back over four eras of how college football “champions” were determined:

First, pre-1927, there was no legitimate system, and the retroactive systems are not legitimate to crown a “champion.” Period.

Second, from 1927 to 1935 (pre-AP Poll), when Houlgate, Dunkel and others invented their own private statistical systems, it gave the fans something to argue about and sold magazines.

Third, from 1936 until 1992 (AP Poll era), we had multiple major media polls that ranked the teams. It was better in the sense that many more knowledgeable individuals participated, and we still had the statistical analysis systems for comparison.

Fourth, from 1993 to the present, we have had number one vs. number two match-ups virtually every year. Two top-ranked teams, and one of them walked away a winner. The endless question: was a better team left out? Still flawed, but the best system to date.

Fifth, one day, and not that long from now, we will have a 4-team or an 8-team playoff. When that happens, we will look back on the fourth era as a time of transition, and we will look back on the second era (1927-1935) and third era (1936-1991) the same way we now look at Princeton’s 28 retroactive MNCs from the 1870’s through the early 1900’s (i.e. they lack a certain credibility).

That’s all I’m saying. Not ragging on Alabama in particular. But I won’t defend retroactive championships. Period. Nor should you. It’s bogus.

jumbeauxtiger

August 4th, 2009
6:54 pm

Tide Rising, no flame intended but did you hear that Jordan Jefferson has been named to the O’Brien Watch List? One of 33 QBs nationally and one of 4 from the SEC(Tebow, Snead and Mallett). I can not dispute that he is unproven and has passed for under 50%. Indeed I have my fingers crossed with him for this season but obviously someone thinks highly of him. We’ll see as that’s why they play ‘em.

Now your comment regarding that Bama will return LSU to 2nd tier status is really surprising coming from someone who usually is rational. Sure Saban turned us around and as I have said on here before I like Nick. But if you look at what LSU was paying head coaches before Nick arrived it was paltry. LSU paid Saban over 3 times what they were paying DiNardo and in his last season it was over 4 times. We had no choice as too many seats were empty in the 90s LSU’s Athletic Department is self supporting and thus all programs but basketball depend on football to carry the load. The old adage you get what you pay for surely was true for us during the lean years. However LSU is in a very fertile recruiting area and arguably has had just as strong of classes as Bama has had the last 3 years. LSU’s facilities are among the top in the nation. The new Student-Athlete Academic Center, which Nick wanted, is a a very strong selling point. The football operations center, which I have personally been through, is another plus. And finally football at night in Death Valley is a very unique tradition. I just don’t see LSU becoming 2nd tier in the near future. Sure we may have a down year, all programs eventually do, but we will bounce back like the top programs do.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
7:01 pm

Otto & Tide Rising—-I was already working on your complaint when you posted. See, I’m here to please . . .

Years when Alabama got jobbed? Well, there are only four years when Alabama finished 2nd or 3rd in the AP Poll: 1945 (2nd), 1966 (3rd), 1975 (3rd) and 1977 (2nd).

In 1945, Army was the consensus national poll champion. The Cadets beat Michigan 28-7 and Notre Dame 48-0. Why? Every other college in America, other than the service academies which had manpower priority for training future officers, was short on healthy, able-bodied males. Most college age men were in the Army, Navy or Marines. Alabama doesn’t have much of any argument here.

In 1966, 9-0-1 Notre Dame shared the MNC with 9-0-1 Michigan State. They had tied in the final game of the regular season. Notre Dame beat USC 51-0 to end their season. Alabama finished 11-0, beating Nebraska 34-7 in the Sugar Bowl. Did the Tide get jobbed? Maybe, but the Irish and the Spartans both won their final games.

In 1975, 11-1 Oklahoma won the MNC, beating 8-2-2 Michigan in the Orange Bowl. Alabama finished 3rd in the AP, but had lost its season opener to 6-5 Missouri in Tuscaloosa. Ouch. Did Alabama get jobbed? No, probably not.

In 1977, 11-1 Notre Dame, led by Joe Montana, won the MNC by beating Texas 38-10 in a Cotton Bowl snow storm (I remember watching this afternoon game on CBS). Amazing game. Alabama finished 11-1 and 2nd in the AP Poll after beating Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl. Did Alabama get jobbed? Maybe, maybe not. But Notre Dame had whole lot going for it, including a future college and NFL Hall of Fame quarterback.

So, guys, in answer to your earlier question, there was never a year when Alabama was ranked 2nd or 3rd and the number one team lost its bowl. You can argue about the number one team’s ranking, but none of the number one teams lost like Bama did in 1964 and 1973.

Best I can tell, the Tide has not been gypped of a title or two in that regard.

Atlanta Gator

August 4th, 2009
7:12 pm

Small caveat: my post above reads incorrectly. It should say “but the Irish and Spartans did not lose their final games.” It was the final game of the season for Michigan State, the next to last game for Notre Dame.

Brad

August 4th, 2009
7:50 pm

Tony – while the no-huddle might be fit for a QB like Larry Smith, it should be noted that your comment that he was MVP of the Music City Bowl is inaccurate. As a Vanderbilt fan, it is a little embarrassing that the MVP was actually our punter, Brett Upson (and our kicking game as a whole is what won that game with Bryant Hahnfeldt’s 3 FG’s as well), but I think it should also be noted that Brett Upson was probably the most dynamic player at his position last year, at least in all of the SEC. If my memory is correct, he was snubbed for All-SEC because he may have not had the longest average of all SEC punters, but there is no question he was the most dynamic punter in the SEC. He consistently made up for the lack of an offense by pinning opponents deep and giving the defense an opportunity to succeed… the only reason I post as much information about Upson as I do is because I don’t think he receives the credit he should and that is reflected in the fact that he was overlooked in your comment noting Larry Smith as the MVP of the Music City Bowl.

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
7:51 pm

Jumbeauxtiger,

I actually don’t really believe LSU will go into 2nd tier status. Just exchanging flames with Matt and 1 or 2 other crazies. Normally I am much more rational and I really don’t have a problem with LSU, just with people like Matt and buckblue that continously take swipes at Bama from out of nowhere.That’s all.

bigsam

August 4th, 2009
8:07 pm

everybody out there underestimating richts DAWGS are in for a big surprise. Ga will be a lot better on defense than anyone thinks and bobo will turn the offense into a ball-control team with big play potential.. It wont come easy but nothing inthe SEC ever does…ga will finish 10-2..they will upset fla. but lose to south carolina and auburn… georgia goes to atlanta against alabama…close game with georgia winning by 2….oops alarm clock just went off…a guy can dream……. IN REALITY I THINK GA GOES 9-3 OR POSSIBLY10-2 allthose underrated bulldog teams of the past?? from underdawgs to wonderdawgs//////////………GO DAWGS……… POST SCRIPT.. if florida goes to the I formation and abandons the spread… they will be sorry.. Tebow is amazing athlete but not your proto-typical NFL type qb…. HES AN OVERSIZED UNDER SPEED MIKE VICK……..TENN WILL BE LUCKY TO GO 6-6…. Vandy and KENTUCKY will be vandy and kentucky.. but be wary of south carolina..if they have decent QB performance they will be a threat..SEC RULES!!!!!!

gt76

August 4th, 2009
9:14 pm

If endowment dollars can buy a coach, then urban meyer is moving to Harvard and their $40 Billion or Texas with their $38 billion. This arguement is for village idiots. Your village is missing you and Hillary.

Jack Schitt

August 4th, 2009
9:30 pm

Hey Miles….who gave you that sissy name? Kinda sounds like “Niles”…..you know the fudge-packer on the TV show Frazier? Anyway, don’t look for Lane and Monty to be leaving town, except to head to Atlanta for the SEC Championship with the Vols. Why don’t you get back to watching the Food Channel and you won’ t look like such a dumbazz. So was it your mommy who named you Miles? Bet you hate her for that……man I would. Now you can say you truly know Jack Schitt. Goooooooooo Vols!!!!!

In the Know

August 4th, 2009
9:45 pm

Hey Tide Rising, I really don’t care what you think. Your posts on these blogs are always so self serving towards Bama. Lets face it you could give a crap about any other team in the SEC other than Bama. You need to stop your pompous attitude and admit it….Bama is far from being back…one good season doesn’t mean anything.Come talk to me at the end of the season…until then neither your opinion or mine means anything to anyone except ourselves.

Jim morrison

August 4th, 2009
10:28 pm

Tideman, you sir are a moron!

Gators will rule the SEC again this year with another NC!

Enough Said!

Tide Rising

August 4th, 2009
10:35 pm

In the know,

“Lets face it you could give a crap about any other team in the SEC other than Bama.”

What are you? A mind reader? Didn’t know you could magically read my mind and what I think about every SEC team. I guess we’ll let the season play out. Good luck to you and whoever your team is since your handle doesn’t suggest one. BTW, I doubt the regular dog, gator, and vol posters on here would say I have a negative attitude toward their teams. I’m usually very respectful towards those teams and even to Auburn fans. Let’s just let it play out. 30 days or so.

Yabba Dabba Dabo.

August 4th, 2009
11:27 pm

The Acc will take everyone by surprise this year so Mark It Down.! C.J. Spiller will win the Heisman Mark It Down too. Its gonna be a Pawsitive experience!

tennessee tom

August 5th, 2009
5:27 am

you can not go to he nfl.until ur 3 yrs removed from hs,remember maurice claret

Nachos

August 5th, 2009
7:19 am

Is Georgia REALLY overrated this year? YES

Will Florida REALLY destroy the mutts this year? YES

Will Georgia be playing in the Music City Bowl this year? YES

Bill

August 5th, 2009
7:50 am

Why does everyone think Spurrier will leave when he’s about to sign his third top 10 class and repeatedly has stated he wants to coach until he’s 70? Wishful thinking by the Dawgs because he has players now and may heap a little more misery on them. Maybe even this year.

SickandTired

August 5th, 2009
8:02 am

Oh Dawg fans, the arrogance of you to think that Tennessee will just be god awful terrible is whistling past the graveyard. So what the majority of you say is that all you gotta do is throw that helmet with the might G on it on the field and Tennessee will just tremble in fear is stunningly ignorant. You make fun of the coaching staff but answer this….do you really think that Bobo can outcoach Monte Kiffin? If you think that, well I’m even more perplexed by the intelligence of you sad sad people.

Anonymous

August 5th, 2009
8:57 am

bigsam,

Michael Vick is two inches shorter and 25 pounds smaller than Tim Tebow. Tebow also likes dogs, does not frequent strip clubs, is an academic honors student, and will graduate from college in four years. Tebow has never been arrested. Thought you should know.

Nachos

August 5th, 2009
9:50 am

Tennessee gonna whup “Saint” Richt and his mutts this year.

Nachos

August 5th, 2009
10:01 am

Yes the AJC banned my IP. Freaking liberal newspaper. That wont let a white man speak his mind. Guess I am a racist. Does Auburn still have a football team? helmets? jerseys?

Helluva Engineer

August 5th, 2009
10:13 am

Nachos is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All is right with the world.

Dawg Max

August 5th, 2009
11:17 am

Florida doesn’t have the RBs to run the I-formation—very simple. They have a bunch of fast, finesse type backs and Moody isn’t that good.

bg

August 5th, 2009
12:58 pm

here are my predictions for the east and why
1- florida tebow must stay healthy and defense must prove to be the best in the east
2- georgia could be as low as 4th if qb and lines fail so it would not surprise me’
3-tennessee could be as high as 2nd young talent will win games
4- kentucky will surprise a few but still can not beat georgia,tennessee or florida
5-south carolina spurriers last year it will not be pretty
6-vandy not enough talent to compete week in and week out

Nachos

August 5th, 2009
8:31 pm

Having fun in Dalton

August 10th, 2009
3:42 am

To the Gator fans,

I’m a bulldog fan, a fan of SEC football, and most important and fan of football. Now, I don’t have to like urban meyer, but I know a good coach when I see one. He may have signed a new contract to stay another 4 years or whatever it was, but that doesn’t mean it will stick. He knew what he was doing when he recruited Tim Tebow. He had a decent defense when he came in. Now this is Tebow’s last season and the last season for everybody on defense. Having that been said, do you really think he’s going to stick around for rebuilding. He may as well go to Notre Dame because it will be the same scenario. And besides, Meyer will have nothing else to prove in Florida. UF will when the SEC, if the season goes well, Tebow might when another Heisman and UF will win the NC.

I know, I know I’m a UGA fan, but I’m also a realist, So you Gator fans may laugh now, but let’s wait until the end of the season and see what he does. Urban Meyer is looking for a change and it couldn’t have come at a perfect time. He will go to Notre Dame.

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David Smith

August 13th, 2009
10:05 am

I think Tennessee finishes 2009 with an 8-4 record. I think They lose to Florida,Georgia,Alabama and Ole Miss. I think My Vols will be heading to Atlanta on January 1st for the Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl.

David Smith

August 13th, 2009
10:26 am

I think the SEC East will pan out this way in 2009:

1)Florida
2)Georgia
3)Tennessee
4)Kentucky
5)Vanderbilt
6)South Carolina(I think this will be Spurrier’s last season at USC)

Marie

August 24th, 2009
6:59 am

Haven’t you heard? We do not even need to play the season this year. The lizards have been given everything already, on a silver platter.

Nostra-chazzo

August 24th, 2009
1:13 pm

This is more a possibility type vision. If I had to put money down, it would be on Tebow and the gators going all the way (and, man, do I hate those guys). My predictions are: Florida drops two (one being the SEC championship). A team from the west goes undefeated but gets snubbed again by the BCS, and the SEC sits out of the BCS championship much to the joy of the USC loving media. The dawgs surprise just about everyone then gets upset by a late season surging Auburn Tigers (then take things out on a pesky group of yellow jackets). If you know your history, you will know where I am coming from.

America's Best, UF

August 26th, 2009
7:12 am

dogs will be 1 & 2 after first 3 games.

America's Best, UF

August 26th, 2009
7:20 am

hey Yabba Dabba Do Do, haven’t you learned yet that ACC is an acyronym..”.America’s Cup Cakes”.