Five burning questions about the SEC West

At last, at long last, we have some real football to cover as teams are finally going to report this week. But there is a lot to do between now and Sept. 3, when South Carolina goes to N.C. State.

As always, the landscape changes between the end of spring practice and now. So we’re going to spend the next few days looking at the most burning questions still surrounding the SEC and ACC as we head into two-a-days.

On the eve of preseason practice, here are my five burning questions about the SEC West:

 

1-The Alabama offensive line is going to eventually grow into a good unit. But will it happen in time for Virginia Tech? Head coach Nick Saban had a wonderful luxury last season. If the game seemed to be getting out of hand, he had the offensive line to just grind on people and re-establish control of the game. With three starters gone, including (Outland Trophy winner) Andre Smith and center Antoine Caldwell, there is much work to do for offensive line coach Joe Pendry. I really like LG Mike Johnson, who will be the bell cow of that unit. And there is talent there. But the offensive line really has to play with one heartbeat and I wonder how close this group will be on Sept. 5 when the Tide plays the ACC champs at the Georgia Dome?

 

2-What’s the future for LSU QB Jarrett Lee? The quarterback position was pretty much a nightmare for LSU in 2008 but nobody’s dreams were worse than those of Lee, a rising third-year sophomore. You really have to work at it to throw 16 interceptions, seven of which were returned for touchdowns. When I talked to coach Les Miles at SEC Media Days, he insisted that Lee is in the mix with sophomore Jordan Jefferson, who finally grew up and took over at the end of last season. But does Lee really come all the way back from last year’s disaster, especially with highly-touted recruit Russell Shepard waiting in the wings? I think we’ll find out in the first few scrimmage if Lee is going to be a factor.

 

 3. How important is the NCAA’s decision to allow Broderick Green to be immediately eligible to play?  This is huge-literally-for Arkansas. One of the problems a year ago is that the offense had to rely too much on running back Michael Smith, who is generously listed on the roster at 5-7, 176. Smith had 207 carries last season (for 1,072 yards) but by the end of the season he was beat up. Smith was also not a good goal-line option. Green (6-2, 248), an Arkansas native, got 32 carries for 168 yards and three touchdowns at Southern Cal in 2008. The NCAA granted him a waiver (sick grandmother) and last week he was declared eligible to play this fall. Now Arkansas has a power running game to complement Smith, which means that Ryan Mallett’s play-action passing game will be even more effective. This is a very important development for Arkansas, who I think can be a bowl team in Bobby Petrino’s second season.

 

4-What about that Auburn offensive line? Any chance they can stay healthy?  While the whole world is worried about the starting quarterback-because it doesn’t appear that Auburn has one-it ain’t gonna matter much if the Tigers get a couple of offensive line injuries in preseason. The first unit, which includes proven players like LT Lee Ziemba and RG Bryon Isom, can play at the SEC level. But if anybody gets hurt, OC Gus Malhzan told me, then this offense will go into a scramble mode. I watched this happen at Georgia last season after LT Trinton Sturdivant got knocked out for the season early. It is not fun and it’s an aggravation new head coach Gene Chizik does not need.  

 

5-Ole Miss finally cut signee Jamar Hornsby loose. Is that good karma or bad karma going into preseason practice? Hornsby may have set some kind of record by managing to get himself kicked off of two SEC teams in the space of two years. You might remember Mr. Hornsby. He was the guy who took the credit card of the dead girlfriend of Gator Joe Haden and ran up $3,000 in gasoline charges. After Hornsby did a stint in junior college, Ole Miss coach Houston Nutt signed him last February. Jamar was so overjoyed at his second chance in life that he proceeded to get arrested on felony assault charges on March 1. Nutt was going to let the legal system run its course, but last Friday Hornsby was indicted on the charges and Ole Miss decided they had better cut their losses. Something like this probably has no impact on the rest of the team. But this summer we have also had a near-tragic auto accident involving RB Dexter McCluster, the Rebels’ most versatile offensive player, and DE Greg Hardy, their best defensive player. Do you believe in bad karma? Just asking.

 

 Tomorrow we will take a look at the SEC East.

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m

August 3rd, 2009
8:52 am

Tony,

The ACC just announced they have reached an agreement with the Lifetime Channel to air the ACC Championship game! The Lifetime Channel had originally planned to show the Sally Field movie, “I Want My Daughter Back” but after intense negotiations a deal was struck.

No word on if Lifetime Channel knows where the game is being played.

Ron Mexico

August 3rd, 2009
9:07 am

Serious journalists don’t use the word “ain’t”.

JB

August 3rd, 2009
9:21 am

It’ll be LSU…….Bama has a great defense, but new QB and iffy OL………If that jells, they might win the west, especially with that schedule…….Bama only has about three tough games……

Delusional SEC Fan

August 3rd, 2009
9:27 am

Question 1 is very interesting indeed. For Bama’s offensive line, talent is not the issue. Experience is. I believe the line will hold its own in the first half then wear Va Tech down in the second half. Bama’s defense will dominate Tech’s inconsistent offensive from the start. Bama by 13 as the defensive scores a touchdown.

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August 3rd, 2009
9:33 am

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Got 12?

August 3rd, 2009
9:36 am

JB,

The schedule is the exact reason Bama will win the West. LSU has a killer schedule while Bama and Ole Miss have it easy. Because frontrunner is not a position Ole Miss is accustomed to, the smart money is on Bama.

CharlotteGator

August 3rd, 2009
9:37 am

1. I really hope so in terms of the VaTech game. Offensively, my opinion is that similar to last year, the identity will be based on line play. The smash mouth run game complemented by play action pass to arguably the best receiver in the league depends on controlling the line of scrimmage. Bama’s got the backs, a QB with talent, a stud at WR, but none of that matters if the line doesn’t play well. And Bama doesn’t need to start the season off with a loss and feel like they don’t know what to do offensively. Their D will keep them in the game because VaTech’s O is anemic at best, but for that team’s overall psyche, I think their OL needs to control if not dominate the line of scrimmage.

2. I can’t really a see a scenario where this guy plays much. Jefferson would have to through similar back breaking pick 6’s and then the freshman would have to be horrible before Lee got a shot. Trust me, ultra hyped freshman QB’s are given every opportunity to succeed and more leeway than most. :)

3. Huge. Arkansas will definitely surprise people this year. Last year they gave the Gators problems (esp. M. Smith running crossing routes across Spikes’ face, he couldn’t keep up w/ the scatback). Late TD’s in the 4Q made that score look worse than it was. For the first 3 quarters, the hogs gave UF all they wanted. Mallet is a huge physical upgrade from the last guy who’s name will prevent this post from being allowed. If they can get some defense, they’ll give teams all they want again this year.

4. Doesn’t seem like a legit question. Who knows? If anyone can definitively answer this then I have some LOTTO tickets I need you to get me.

5. Again, who knows. This one seems like a stretch question as well. Nutt tried to help this guy out with a second chance and Hornsby squandered it. It’s a shame because he’s talented, but at the same time, it’s hard to feel bad for someone who knew he should’ve kept his nose clean. Probably shouldn’t waste time talking about guys who don’t care enough to try and get their life in order. Let’s talk about all the players who are working hard and setting a good example.

SEC What?

August 3rd, 2009
9:37 am

Five Question?

1. Who cares?

2. Who cares?

3. Who cares?

4. Who cares?

5. Who cares?

goooo dawgs!

dan

August 3rd, 2009
9:49 am

Delusional SEC Fan,

If Bama is favored by -13 vs. Va. Tech come gametime, I might be inclined to take Va. Tech in that game.

armenchuck

August 3rd, 2009
9:53 am

I was scared this was going to be a repeat article from two weeks ago. It is not! Thanks for the incredible, well written article Tony.

Got 12 but none in quite a long long time ....

August 3rd, 2009
9:56 am

Jefferson and Sheppard….!!

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
10:07 am

Tony:

What LSU is going to do with Lee isn’t even a top 5 question for LSU. Who cares. This guy is going to get buried in the depth chart. He got his shot and messed up. His best option is to transfer to a FCS school. As for Jefferson, yeah, I think we were all “finally growing up” when we were 18 years old. Jefferson just had to do his growing up in front of 92,000 SEC fans.

As for Bama, the offensive line should grow into a pretty good one. The burning question there though is, will the QB be ready for SEC play or even to face the VT defense. LSU showed last year that replacing a Senior QB like Flynn or JPW is hard to do.

Bama Aaron

August 3rd, 2009
10:08 am

I don’t believe it will take that long for Bama’s O-line to become cohesive. But even if it takes a game or two the defense is strong enough to carry them to wins until it does. ROLL TIDE!

IM4BAMA

August 3rd, 2009
10:11 am

Only 30 more days till college football!!! Hell yeah.

Atlanta Gator

August 3rd, 2009
10:17 am

Comments in response to Tony—-

(1) Nothing like growing up fast. FSU and Miami have often played in early September, in order that the loser could recover its poll rankings with the remainder of winning season. As a result, two of the highest powered offenses in Division I would often degenerate into a slop-fest defensive struggle. Last year’s Alabama-Clemson kick-off game looked like that at times. Point being, three or four games as a starter does make a difference, and Alabama’s young line, while talented, will need a few games to settle into their new role.

(2) LSU will have an excellent defense, and good supporting players on offense. Question is, will the Tigers have a starting quarterback who can carry the team to serious contention in the SEC West . . . my thought: first do no harm. Don’t put to much pressure on the starter, and let the more experienced supporting cast carry the load for a while.

(3) The NCAA has a heart? Who knew? I didn’t expect this waiver, but Arkansas can certainly use the help in the backfield.

(4) Auburn’s offensive line? How about its quarterback, tailbacks and receivers. too? Chizik, his new coordinator, and his starters need to generate some offense. Sure, great defenses create championships, but you must score to win. Hopefully, AU’s dysfunctional offense will show some signs of life under the new regime. The AU fans and powers-that-be need to see some improvement this year . . . .

(5) When Jamar Hornsby was invited to leave Gainesville in the aftermath of running up $3,000 worth of charges on the credit card of his teammate’s dead girlfriend, I wished him luck with his second chance in Mississippi and hoped that he would take full advantage of it. Instead, he’s been charged with felony assault and violation of parole before he even played a down for Ole Miss. Sad, very sad.

Bo Williams

August 3rd, 2009
10:19 am

M, are you going to watch the new reality show airing this fall in which graduates from UGa, Ole Miss, MissState, and Alabama are going to represent the President’s Cabinet in running the country during football season? The seat of government will be in Columbia, SC, where the Confederate Flag will fly high above the temporary Nations Capitol, and Dixie will be blared at both sun-up and sun-down.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
10:25 am

AtlantaGator:

I have to agree with your assesment of LSU. LSU fans are excited about JJ but we have to remember that he is only a sophmore with exactly 2 starts under his belt. Protecting him is exactly what LSU is going to do. A heavy dose of Charles Scott and Keiland Williams is just what the doctor ordered. Hopefully by October JJ will have this offense rolling.

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August 3rd, 2009
10:30 am

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mcdawg

August 3rd, 2009
10:40 am

BAMA 3 VT O-don’t think the Offense will matter against VT

Hornsby-some people you simply can’t help

UGASlobberknocker

August 3rd, 2009
10:42 am

This just in: The Lifetime Channel has reneged on their ACC Championship Game agreement. After discussions with focus groups, it was decided that that the average wife beating, man done woman wrong movie on that network had far more heavy hitting than the average ACC game. It was felt that ACC fans couldnt handle any additional violence (especially Tech fans who already have to worry about getting assaulted outside of their stadium).

In a related story,the ACC has entered into an agreement with the Cartoon Channel for their Saturday weekday package..figuring watching football like the ACC plays..now that’s HILARIOUS!

braveswin

August 3rd, 2009
11:08 am

I think LSU wins the west, the defense will be as good if not better under Chavis, and the offense will possibly go into a grind it out mode to protect the young QB. Bama has too much to replace on the O line and Ole Miss may not be quite ready to wear a bullseye all year. Ark will be better but again maybe not ready for prime time.

ThaMan

August 3rd, 2009
11:29 am

How did the fleabags do against the ACC last year? Anyone?

Jeff

August 3rd, 2009
11:41 am

ThaMan- Is that all you can ask- how UGA did “last year” hahahahhhahahah..How does the ACC do against ANY SEC TEAM most years??? anyone??

Joe

August 3rd, 2009
11:43 am

Well, the Jackette’s from the ACC Coastal Swamp are a eye popping 1-7 vs a Dawg from Athens.

Wayne

August 3rd, 2009
11:44 am

Clemsux is 0-1 vs Bama

That was no fluke; Johnson let up!

August 3rd, 2009
11:46 am

dog fans ragging the ACC….short memory…I guess?

Wayne

August 3rd, 2009
11:46 am

I do think in the annual battle of the toothless tigger and the Barnyard Jokers- the toothless tigger does come out on top in South Carolina

Joe

August 3rd, 2009
11:48 am

Short memory??? what is short about 1-7?

This was no fluke either...51-7. Richt DID LET UP...

August 3rd, 2009
11:48 am

Enter your comments here

That was no fluke; Johnson let up!

August 3rd, 2009
11:50 am

keep living in the past…two in a row will be ramblin this fall.

Tech has a Johnson..not a gomer

August 3rd, 2009
11:53 am

Johnson 1.
Dogs 0

Bull Gator

August 3rd, 2009
12:13 pm

As a Gator fan, I am going to thoroughly enjoy watching the SEC West play itself out this season. Personally, I think LSU is going to surprise people, and I anticipate another battle on the Bayou when we travel there in Oct. Whoever emerges, let’s hope for another SEC Championship as memorable as last year’s.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
12:21 pm

1) This offensive line was able to move the ball with some success during the spring against a D that returns 9 starters from the nation’s number 3 rated defense last year. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

2) If LSU’s qb last year is still right in the mix for the starting job then that tells you that all the hype around Jordan Jefferson is just that. Hype! If this guy can’t create separation in the spring from arguably the worst qb in the west last year than he must not be all that the kool aid drinkers think he is. JJ is a guy after all who is a career less than 50% passer and who is 1-1 as a starter. People forget he lost that game against Arky and that horrific Arky defense last year. Playing decent in one game only against Tech does not a quarterback make.

3)Big addition for Arky as they need a big, good back to complement Smith.

4) Auburn has to be like us last year and have the good fortune of avoiding the injury bug. Their first 22 aren’t bad but after that they are lacking in depth, especially on the O-line. If they and UT just had decent qbs I think both could make some noise, go bowling, win some upsets, etc.

5) Jamar Horsby- This is just a rotten kid. Plain and simple. Its a shame he just threw his life away.

The Blog Referee

August 3rd, 2009
12:26 pm

Tony Barnhart,

Thank you for deleting several of the more juvenile comments posted earlier this morning.

The Ref

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
12:29 pm

Bravesfan,

If you think LSU wins the west you need to look at the schedule. They travel to Athens to play the dogs. Looking at history they haven’t done very well in Athens. They also play Florida. Both Bama and Ole Miss have the good fortune of both not playing either UGA or UF. That’s a huge disadvantage for LSU.

On top of that LSU travels to both Ole Miss and Bama. Even if they were ultimately a better team than both Bama and Ole Miss the schedule alone would do them in. Based on schedule Ole Miss has the advantage. In addition to avoiding both UGA and UF out of the east they get both Bama and LSU at home. Huge advantage for Ole Miss. All things being equal the advantage goes to Ole Miss.

athensdawg

August 3rd, 2009
12:33 pm

whoever has the best record vs. arkansas and old miss will win the west.

Johnny DangerDawg

August 3rd, 2009
12:33 pm

2) Jarrett Lee? Are you kidding me, Tony? The guy is toast. Jefferson is the QB at LSU. I agree with Matt that this is not even an issue. Your next list of “Burning Questions” will probably be “How many games into the season will Tim Tebow lose his starting job?” or “Will Nick Saban leave Bama to become coach at La Tech?”

PTC DAWG

August 3rd, 2009
12:45 pm

BAMA/LSU/OLE MISS in no particular order. Should be interesting.

PTC DAWG

August 3rd, 2009
12:46 pm

Oh yeah, Tide Rising makes a great point, LSU has a decided negative in the schedule.

Don Ho

August 3rd, 2009
12:48 pm

Tide Rising

Not nit-picking but Alabama’s D is now at 8 returning starters with the defection of Brandon Fanney, but he was a 14 game starter at the key Jack position and was 3rd on the team in tackles.

Johnson’s loss was big in the secondary & Jackson looks very suspect at corner. We’ll have to see if the Bama D is as stout as everyone thinks.

Atlanta Gator

August 3rd, 2009
12:54 pm

Well, it’s official.

Jeremy Foley did not wait until after the 2009 football season; UAA and Urban Meyer have already completed negotiations and signed a new contract, extending Meyer’s current contract term through 2014.

Meyer is now the highest paid coach in the SEC at more than $4 million per year.

Here’s the ESPN link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4374311

This was no fluke either...51-7. Richt DID LET UP...

August 3rd, 2009
12:59 pm

quit living in the past???? hahahaha Jackette- 1 year in how many?? no past dude- just a fact WE OWN YOU

Dooley's Cardiologist

August 3rd, 2009
12:59 pm

The only reason there are questions for the West is because there are obviously none for the East. To spell it out for the simple minded; UF wins the East.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
1:06 pm

Don Ho,

Actually you are correct. But I’m not worried. He only had 1 sack I think it was and Saban requires more production from the Jack position. What it looks like we’re going to do is move Donta Hightower to jack to get more speed and a better player and move up one of our younger linebackers to Donta’s old spot which is easy to learn. Donta started as a freshman and seemed to do pretty well. There are at least 2 former 5 star rated lbs that we want to get on the field jerrell harris and nico johnson. Too much young talent to keep on the sideline.

As for Johnson’s loss we feel really, really good with Robby Green taking over and behind him we have a former 5 star rated sophomore in Mark Barron backing up Green at safety. We’re going to be fine there.

Kareem Jackson did look suspect at corner some times last year but then again when you’re playing against top tier sec competition like AJ Green you will get burned from time to time. We’ve got a former 5 star corner recruit BJ Scott backing him up at cb and we’ve got the nation’s number one corner recruit in 5 star Dre Kirkpatrick coming in the fall to give him competition. We’re locked and loaded there.

What’s really nice is that everywhere where we have questions, o line, db, lb, we’ve got about 7 former 5 star recruits already working as backups and trying to break into the starting rotation. Heck, our weakness is supposedly the O-line and on the O-line we will have 2 massive former 5 star recruits as backups at the tackle positions, 6′7 350 lb Fluker coming in the fall and 6′7, 300 lb Love medical redshirt as a freshman. Just like the O-line the experience may not be there but the talent absolutely is.

DBCOOPER

August 3rd, 2009
1:08 pm

Who’s the guy on this Blog that predicted Texas Tech would kill Ole Miss? Real football expert!

Ole Miss has two things LSU and Alabama don’t have. All tough games at home and most importantly a QB.

Frozen_Gator

August 3rd, 2009
1:09 pm

This is/or should be a put-up or shut-up year for Alabama. They say we have the coach and several highly regarded recruiting classes back to back. The time is now, no excuses.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
1:10 pm

DBCOOPER,

You are correct. I’m picking Ole Miss to win the west but only provided that they stay healthy. If ever they are going to do it this is the year. They are set up for a great run especially schedule wise.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
1:15 pm

Frozen_Gator,

Nope. It doesn’t have to be this year for us as we are still extremely young. We just want to be competitive and keep stacking up great recruiting class after class. We’re expecting a great season this year but 2010 is the year we are aiming for a serious run at the national title. By then the 1st of the great recruiting classes will be juniors and every year after that we expect to be in the national title hunt. Not quite there yet though, just a little ahead of schedule.

KR

August 3rd, 2009
1:16 pm

Tide Rising posted: “arguably the worst qb in the west last year” about Jarrett Lee.

I beg to differ. I’m reasonably certain that Auburn’s starting quarterback was the undisputed holder of that title.

I can’t even remember his name because as an Auburn fan, I’m trying to mentally block out last year.

m

August 3rd, 2009
1:20 pm

The post at the top of this page by m is a fake, obviously.

Tony, the mighty sec plays the ACC 7 games this year. I say the ACC smacks the sec around this year just they did last year. What say you?

The sec, the chan gomer gailey of conferences…Thank God and Greyhound that he is gone forever.

Don Ho

August 3rd, 2009
1:21 pm

KR

Q: What does AU QB Kody Burns have in common with Larry Bird?

A: They both throw great bounce passes.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
1:22 pm

Atlbrett,

Jordan Jefferson is 36 of 73 passing for 49.3% with 4tds and 1 int. Pulling stats out of my arse? I think not.
Check the facts yourself before making a complete jackazz out of yourself. Google his career passing stats and go to silive.com and see for yourself you punk!

archangeladidas

August 3rd, 2009
1:22 pm

Urban Meyer just inked a new deal. So much for coaching at ND next year. May the GATOR dominance continue. GO GATORS!!!

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
1:25 pm

KR,

I did say “arguably” the worst which leaves the running for the title up for debate. The Miss State qb was really bad also and Kodi Burns the Auburn qb was as you said really bad. If Auburn can find a good qb they could be really good in a hurry. I’m thinking they should maybe just go with Barrett Trotter or incoming freshman Rollison I think his name is, take their lumps early while the new qb learns, and then by the time they play their biggest rivals at the end of the season like Bama and Georgia they would be competitive.

KillCasualFan

August 3rd, 2009
1:29 pm

LSU wasn’t the only SEC team with QB issues last season. Tebow and Stafford aside, overall it was one of the worst years in SEC history for QB play. Tennessee, Auburn, & Miss. St. fired their coaches over it and Bama was embarrased in their bowl game because of it. The others aren’t worth mentioning. Stafford would have ranked #7 in QB ratings had he been in the Big 12. It’s easy for the SEC to look good on defense when they are mostly facing less than average QB’s.

Its a gator world

August 3rd, 2009
1:33 pm

Tide,

Sorry about that calling your stat bs. I guess Jefferson is a career under 50% passer.

Miss.who

August 3rd, 2009
1:35 pm

archangeladidas dominance my —.

Tide rising

August 3rd, 2009
1:39 pm

Atlbrett,

What manner of an idiot are you to be calling someone else a simpleton when you are regurgitating high school statistics? Is Jordan Jefferson still playing high school ball or is he now playing in the SEC? You freaking idiot.

What have you got to say about the man being 36 of 73 for a career % under 50% as I stated? I thought you said I just made that stat up. Well, those are real stats that you can verify yourself. Please go verify them yourself before you start saying that I’m just making stuff up out of my arse. Oh, but you think I should have included his freaking high school stats after he’s already played in 7 games as a freshman and is now a sophomore in college. Good God you are stupid!

Atlanta Gator

August 3rd, 2009
1:41 pm

archangeladidas—-Yes, and may the Schwartz be with you, too, brother.

Don Ho

August 3rd, 2009
1:43 pm

Never realized High School stats were included in career stats. I learn something new on this blog every day!

Otto

August 3rd, 2009
1:47 pm

Tide, Trotter is out with the ACL. Caudle is the real option and Gus remembers a HS game played between his team with Mustain against Caudle’s Spain park team which has a high scoring game where whever had the ball last won. Auburn’s greatest problem is depth on the OL.

Jordan Jefferson had one good game against GT. LSU has lost some veterans on their very good DL. LSU also one of the harder schedules in the West. Also I don’t think Chavis is the answer at DC. LSU finishes in 3rd in the west. Auburn 4th. Arkansas gets killed by their schedule for 5th.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
1:48 pm

Tide Rising:

Hello again! LSU fans are excited about JJ and the rest of the team because LSU actually showed improvement the last game of the season. I seem to remember Bama getting crushed by Utah. Oh and how many passes have the Bama QB’s thrown and completed to date? LSU has more talent and experience at QB than Bama does face it.

Yes, Ole Miss does have the scheduling advantage this year. But they also have 2 (count’em 2) FCS schools on their schedule. That is the type of schedule that gets you knocked out of contention with one loss. I’m ok with LSU finishing 2nd in the West. All that means is that when the #1 west school gets crushed by UF in the SECCG, LSU will jump into the Sugar Bowl or At Large spot in the BCS (something LSU takes more seriously than Bama).

Its a gator world

August 3rd, 2009
1:50 pm

I guess Atlbrett loves those high school stats. Give it up Brett. You called the man a liar and he pulled the stats to prove it and now you’re coming up with high school stats? I called him out on the Jefferson stat also but I’m convinced and said I was sorry.

gdawginkalamazoo

August 3rd, 2009
1:55 pm

Atl Gator, for a few minutes Urban was the highest paid coach in the SEC, at least until Les Miles attorney/agent got wind of it.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
1:56 pm

The numbers Tide Rising is throwing out on JJ are correct but I’ll take them from a kid who just turned 18. If it were not for the defensive meltdown against Arky, LSU would have won and JJ would be 2-0. That game was not JJ’s fault. However, that was last year and the only thing we can do about that is fix the problem. Those problems have been fixed.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
1:57 pm

Matt,

Sorry man but I just deal in facts. Jefferson is 36 of 73 for 49%. McElroy has also seen limited action but is 16 out of 20 for 80%. Stick to the facts Matt.

And to bring up the Utah game? Man, that’s weak that you have to live vicariously through Utah. Do you want me to bring up any of LSU’s 5 losses conference losses? We can have this debate all day long but the bottom line is I’ll take 12-2 with losses to the national champs and the nation’s only unbeaten team in Utah over 8-5 all day long. Do you really want to go there?

gdawginkalamazoo

August 3rd, 2009
1:58 pm

Anybody know what Va Tech’s record against the SEC is?

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
2:00 pm

Congrats to the gators for signing Urban to a long term deal. Now maybe people can quit with the nonsense of obsessing over when he will go to ND. I think the continued excellence that Meyer brings will make everyone else raise their game to keep up.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
2:04 pm

gdawginkalamazoo,

VT is 18-38 against the sec for a losing % of around 30% I’m guessing. The source is Stassen.com lest Atlbrett accusing me of lying and just making stats up again. Against Bama they are 1-10 but they won the last time we played and whooped us pretty good in the music city bowl something around 10 years ago.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
2:10 pm

HAHA, yeah you only deal in facts. How about these facts.

McElroy has played against Auburn, Arkansas, Tenn, Western Carolina, Miss. St., and Western Kentucky. All in mop up duty and in some games didn’t even throw a pass. I’m pretty sure I could complete 80% of my passes against those 2nd and 3rd team defenses.

JJ has played against GT, Ark, Ole Miss, Troy, Miss. St., Tulane, and North Texas.

Point is, JJ has taken meaningful snaps and made starts against SEC competition. McElroy has taken meaningless snaps in the final moments of crap games.

gdawginkalamazoo

August 3rd, 2009
2:10 pm

Thanks Tide I was just wondering. It may be my perception but to me Va Tech just seems to play like UGA does sometimes in that they just mentally and physically drop out of the game for periods of time. Call it trying to protect a lead or just not showing up.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
2:15 pm

Oh and yes, I do believe I will continue to talk about the last game of the season. Momentum comes from those games. A bowl game is where you get to show the world what kind of a team you are. LSU could have easily given up. They were 7-5 at the time. Had a bad year but they are true champions who do not give up. They spent the a month grooming a true freshman QB and came up with a defensive scheme to stop what had been an upstoppable offense. Bama gave up as soon as Tebow got fired up and it carried over. What did Bama spend that month doing between games. Apparently it wasn’t watching film. Bama had a senior QB, a stacked defense, and Nick Saban and they still could not beat a team that everyone thought they would. You probably think Utah plays a crap schedule and doesn’t belong in the National Title conversation either.

tek

August 3rd, 2009
2:16 pm

lsu is the best

ThaMan

August 3rd, 2009
2:17 pm

If you mutts want to go back, lets go to 8 in a row over the fleabags.

G8R GRAD

August 3rd, 2009
2:18 pm

“Not only did the University of Florida win a national championship in January, but all 13 seniors earned degrees and the 2008 football team tied an SEC-league record with 37 players named to the SEC academic honor roll.”
ESPN.com

Tell me again why Charlie Weiss is still making more per year than Coach Meyer?

ThaMan

August 3rd, 2009
2:19 pm

Jeff – last year, Tech went 2 for 3 against the SEC. Moron!

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
2:22 pm

G8R Grad: I say that quote as well and was very impressed. The academic stats often get overlooked.

G8R GRAD

August 3rd, 2009
2:22 pm

“[Meyer's] also made a $1 million commitment to UF’s Florida Opportunity Scholars Program, which was created by school president Machen to provide financial assistance to first-generation, financially disadvantaged students working toward a bachelor’s degree.

Meyer and Florida men’s basketball coach Billy Donovan agreed to lead that charge last year. The goal is to raise $50 million.”
ESPN.com

G8R GRAD

August 3rd, 2009
2:25 pm

Say what you will about the man, his ethics, whining, etc., but . . . . .

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
2:25 pm

Atlbrett,

“Jefferson is 36 of 73 and nobody is arguing those facts”. Excuse me but you started arguing those stats in your first post when you said that I just made those up out of thin air and basically just called me a liar. Did you not? Seems to me that you want to continue to conveniently ignore the fact that you called someone a liar, you got proven wrong, and now you’re acting like it never even happened. What does that say about you as a man?

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
2:34 pm

Matt and Atlabrett,

I see that you are still living vicariously through the Utah game and to some extent the Florida game. I would venture to say that Tim Tebow would say that the seccg was a lot more competitive than their game with JeaLSU. What was that score 51-21? Was that it? Who let’s people score over 50 pts against them anyway? That is nothing short of humiliation. Seems like the dogs pegged 52 on your azzes also. Talk about giving up in a game.

Hard to believe you want to rag on me about losing to the two teams that collectively finished 26-1 and finished 1-2 in one of the polls while you conveniently get all the mileage you can out of one bowl win. Never mind the 5 conference losses including some of those UGA, UF, Ole Miss in humiliating fashion. The Ole Miss game may not have been real lopsided scorewise I haven’t looked it up but they physically put a whooping on you guys. Let me know when you can keep Tebow and the dawgs under 50 pts.

And how do you lose to an Ark team that had the worst D in the conference. How does that happen? How come the miracle worker JJ couldn’t outscore ARK when he was starting against the worst D in the conference. How does that happen?

You guys are amazing.

Atlanta Gator

August 3rd, 2009
2:45 pm

gdawg~zoo—-Virginia Tech’s all-time record against the current members of the SEC is 26-49; Virginia Tech’s all-time record against Alabama is 1-10.

Here’s the link to College Football Data Warehouse:

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/acc/virginia_tech/vs_conf_opponents.php?confid=177&restrictions=none

Steve

August 3rd, 2009
2:46 pm

Alabama a so-so quarterback last year and they far exceeded any preseason expectation. They sure as hell put some black jeresy’s on the For Sale Real Real Cheap rack, if I recall corredtly…. here in Georgia. ROLL TIDE.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
2:50 pm

Tide Rising:

Are you trying to hurt my feelings? LSU had a horrible year last year. We know. LSU gave up a ton of points defensively. We know. Oh but check the 07 and 06 seasons and you’ll find that LSU has held Tebow to under 30 points, TWICE.

If you could read you would see that I have explained why LSU lost the Arkansas game. Wasn’t JJ’s fault. And nobody called him a miracle worker but yourself. Bama was supposed to be one of the greatest teams ever last year. I heard Bama fan after Bama fan saying that time after time. But you guys can’t even win a bowl game against a lesser opponent. But that is Nick Saban for you. Lost to Iowa in his last game at LSU. Couldn’t beat Louisana Monroe two years ago (man that one must have hurt).

What do LSU fans have to be jealous of? Bama hasn’t meant anything to us in over a decade. Until Saban came back, LSU fans really had forgotten about Bama.

You clearly do not watch the games, or maybe you just don’t own a TV or have cable hookups or something. UF beat the pants off LSU, no other way to spin it. Against UGA, Lee threw 2 pick 6’s (one on the 1st pass of the game). The difference in the game was 14 points. Do you remember that UGA had one of the best offenses in the Nation? Ole Miss was just a mess. The D gave up on that one.

But what about Bama? I mean it took Lee throwing an INT in Overtime to lose that game. Lee tried giving Bama that game all day long. What happened there guy?

Point is again, that LSU could have given up but didn’t. They came back and wore out a decent team. Bama on the other hand was 12-1 at the time and considered one of the best teams in the nation and what do they do to end the season. LAY AN EGG. Sounds like Bama’s D gave up against Utah.

The Blog Referee

August 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm

AJC Editors,

Please delete comment of Atlbrett @2:41pm for violations of the AJC blog user agreement.

Thanks.

The Ref

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
2:52 pm

Saban has never had back to back double digit win seasons.

I love that stat!!!!!

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
2:53 pm

Atlbrett,

Allow me to help you out there buddy. He started 2 games but he played in 7 games overall so this is based on a number of games,. not just the 2 that he started.

Also, your point is contradictory. On the one hand you talk about how great JJ is going to be based upon how he played in one single game which was the bowl game. Then when I give you his stats over 7 games with 2 complete starts you dismiss those stats as being meaningless because its only 2 games. You can’t have it both ways dude. Either he is an average at best qb because his stats aren’t very impressive over his career which includes 7 games or he is a one game wonder in the bowl game. Which is it?

Your last statement about my “tons of fun” redneck wife just diminishes you. Surely you can do better than that if you want to insult me. Give it another shot and this time try to be witty.

[...] Burning Questions about the SEC West From Tony Barnhart Five burning questions about the SEC West | Mr. College Football [...]

Mac

August 3rd, 2009
2:56 pm

Hornsby got into an ocean-trench-deep karma hole when he stole and used a dead girl’s credit card. How devoid of decency do you have to be to do that? Houston Nutt tarnished his own karma by signing that slimeball.

Mort Merkel

August 3rd, 2009
2:58 pm

In fact, Saban is far more familiar with the eight win season than any other. Over-rated!

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
3:01 pm

Matt,

Great stat on Saban! Let’s see if it holds up this year. Now allow me to return the favor and give you a couple stats.

Head to head record Bama 44 wins, LSU 22 wins. Bama doubles up LSU head to head. Source is stassen.com. All you have to do is beat us for the next 22 years in a row to even up the record. Good luck with that.

LSU’s famed death valley AKA tiger stadium. I think instead of the fighting bayou bengal tigers I’ll just call you the mildcats when we play in our home away from home.

In one of college football’s alltime great unbeaten streaks Alabama went unbeaten in 19 straight games at tiger stadium from 1969 to 2004 when Saban of all people finally beat Alabama. Tiger stadium is our house. You guys just pay us rent. As a matter of fact we felt so comfortable there that we played back to back when the conference split into divisions in the ealry 90s. For us its just another home game.

Matt, I patiently await yet another remark about Utah, U, even La-Monroe, etc. since you have to live vicariously through our losses to other teams.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
3:03 pm

The blog referee,

Please leave Atlbrett’s comments at 2:41 posted. I don’t mind the insult and I think it just tells us a lot about Atlbrett.

gdawginkalamazoo

August 3rd, 2009
3:06 pm

Matt, Atlbrett and Tide Rising. Gentlemen, I have been follwoing you guys and your arguments regarding the “stats”. I can give you guys one piece of information regrading those stats, they won’t mean diddly when this season rolls around. Last years game don’t count toward this year either. So can we get back to talking football players and thier potential THIS year. 12 INTS from last don’t carry over to this year. Neither do the points UGA and UF put up on LSU last year. I suspect that Miles will have A QB picked and ready to go come Sept.

Thanks ATL Gator, who do you favor in the Bama/VaTech game?

CharlotteGator

August 3rd, 2009
3:10 pm

gdawginkalamazoo,

I believe Miles’ contract says he’s the highest paid coach in the SEC after winning a national championship. I don’t think it’s every time another coach gets a raise.

G8R GRAD,

Thanks for pointing out those pieces of the ESPN article. Maybe we can archive those for when the Liar, Crier, ‘I once saw him hit a baby seal’ stuff comes out in the season.

gdawginkalamazoo

August 3rd, 2009
3:10 pm

Tide Rising, Matt and Atlbrett….. you guys should be receiving a call from Obama shortly inviting you to the WH for a beer.

TampaGator

August 3rd, 2009
3:13 pm

Houston Nutt….what took you so long with Jamar Hornsby? And, a better question, why did you sign him in the first place? A person with any kind of morals and values would not have stolen and used a dead girl’s credit card. Did you really think he would reform himself, or does winnnig really override a coaches morals and values as well? Just asking, Mr. Nutt? P.S. This has nothing to do with you beating my Gators last year. You earned that one fair and square with all the previous legit talent from the previous coach.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
3:17 pm

Tide Rising: And yet you, as all other Bama fans, are living vicariously through Bear!!! haha!

This just in, Bear Byrant is still dead.

I don’t care about past winning percentages, especially when they span over 40 years. You ignored that fact yesterday, as I just brushed it off. You just spit out the same old Bamer stats that date back to Bear and that is all you have. No real fire. You continue to bring those up because you are scared of what the future holds. I’ll tell you what it holds.

A couple of really good years (1 down) and a ton of dissapointment. You can count on Saban lying and leaving at one point in the next 5-7 years and you can count on Bama continually being on probation. You can also count on LSU continuing to dominate Bama as they have done the past decade and you can count on me talking about Bama losing to UL-Monroe for quite some time. That one’s just funny. Like Michigan losing to App. St funny. 11/7 cannot come fast enough. I cannot wait till the Tigers take the field in Tuscaloosa, where they have played well the past few years.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
3:19 pm

Matt,

Actually I do watch the games on my tv with rabbit ears. As a matter of fact, I remember the Iowa game. They won it on a hil mary pass on the last play of the game did they not? I also remember LSU losing to UAB now that you mention LA-Monroe. If you’re going to downplay Saban’s accomplishments at LSU then you might as well downplay 2003 and a national title shouldn’t you? Just seems fair. I seem to remember you barely escaping Troy of all people last year. Would that be correct? I’m sorry but I thought pick 6 tds counted in football in the UGA game and our game.

Seems you want to got that pick 6 excuse ready for the ga game and for the Bama game last year. It seems that you also forget that we spotted you a td when we fumbled a kickoff around the 20 in last year’s game. You also forget that the game should never have gone into overtime as our kicker kicked the ball way too low on a chip shot field goal to end the game and got it blocked. No problem, Julio just dragged Patrick Peterson on his back for a 9 yard ride to take the ball down to the one and basically seal the game. Seems you also forget that on the opening drive we stuffed it down your throat and our wr fumbled the ball as he was going across the goal line resulting in a touchback. Funny how you forget all those things about last year’s game. I guess you were watching with rabbit ears also. That’s 3 big breaks that we gave you and you still couldn’t win.

And to say that LSU fans had forgotten about us for a decade. Yeah. That’s why you had a record crowd for last year’s game. You had a 5 game winning streak while we were down 21 schollies in the mid 2000s but that wasn’t a decade ago now was it? As a matter of fact I doubt if you had forgotten about us in 04 when you were all jacked up with idea of finally beating us in your own house. Seems we were still in your head at that point in time. That wasn’t a decade ago was it?

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
3:20 pm

gdawginkalamazoo– I’ll gladly answer the phone and accept that beer or two. I just hope FOX news doesn’t make fun of my selection!!

Charlotte Gator– You are correct. Les is to be the highest paid coach after winning a national championship. So the raise Urban received will not affect Miles this year.

Atanta Gator

August 3rd, 2009
3:24 pm

gdawg~zoo—-Bama by 7.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
3:33 pm

Yeah, Saban did lose to UAB his first year at LSU. He has a knack for that. The Iowa loss was on the last play too but he has a knack for lossing bowl games anyways. In last years Troy game, LSU could have called it a game after the 3rd quarter but they didn’t. They showed a heart of true champions and came back to win. I don’t really remember Bama coming back to beat many teams over the years do you?

I remember the Bama game very well. I still see D. Byrd flailing around trying to either catch the ball or knock it down as he was standing in the middle of 3 or 4 Bama defenders before getting crushed. That play turned into an INT inside the 30. You seem to have forgotten that. For every Bama miscue LSU matched it. And yes, I do remember Peterson getting dragged, it was ugly. That’s ok though, this year the ball wont even make it to Jones (that was sarcasim, Jones is the man).

As for the record crowd, we were just welcoming our old coach back. Had it not been for Saban, the crowd would have been an average crowd. However, you make it out to be a big deal that there was a record crowd there. In truth there were probably only 100 or so more people there above the average and they were probably Bama fans anyways.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
3:37 pm

Matt,

Ahhh! It was only a matter of time I suspect before you would go digging up the bear. Only rival fans like you refuse to realize the man has been dead something like 26 years now. His last year at Bama was 1982 or 1983 I think Seems we still were whupping you in your own house for another 20 years after that so why would you start digging up the bear? What’s he got to do with anything if he’s been dead 26 years?

What was LSU before Saban resurrected that program. 8 losing seasons in 11 years before Saban got there? Is that right? Sorry dude but in the myriad number of coaching changes since the bear I don’t ever remember us having losing seasons 8 of 11 years. That is truly pathetic no matter how bad the coaching. Now that the last of Saban’s players are finally gone I see LSU going back to its accustomed position in the basement.

Miles reminds me of Larry Coker at Miami. He won a national title in 01 and played for another in 02 with Butch Davis’s upper classment. Then as Davis players gradually filtered through Miami dropped horribly despite good recruiting classs and well, we know the rest of the story. Strange how it parallels Miles going 7-5 his first year after that stellar senior class of 07 that Saban recruited to LSU. Looks like history as already started repeating itself.

History will repeat itself also in that we will go back to our usual, customary dominance of you which existed well after the bear left. The only time you’ve ever dominated was in the mid 2000s when we were playing with 21 fewer players. Heck, everyone was beating us. Its a little harder to beat us now that we are back at full strength as you found out last year.

You can bring up La-Monroe all you want if all you can do is live vicariously through other teams which is just plain sad. Its actually kinda funny to me too though and I don’t mind it being brought up.

Last, if you’re going to dominate us and the west you might want to start thinking about winning more than a paltry 3 sec games this year. And if you lose at least show some pride and some fight. Don’t let teams continually rack up over 50 pts on you. Hard to believe that you guys can win only 3 conference games, get blown out in 3 of those 5 losses, and then talk smack about dominating. Absolutely amazing you are!

gdawginkalamazoo

August 3rd, 2009
3:43 pm

Charlotte Gator, I thought he got the automatic raise to $1 above the highest paid coach in the SEC and at least 3rd highest in the land.. But I am not certain on that.

Tide Rising

August 3rd, 2009
3:49 pm

Matt,

Its been fun trading barbs with you but I think I’ll actually get back to doing some work and let some of the other guys have at it. Besides, I get the feeling that the other guys probably are growing weary of our ongoing debate. Nothing wrong with some spirited smack talk. Its all in good fun.

I will leave you with one good bit of advice. Leave the bear out of it. The man has been dead 26 years and most bama fans don’t even remember him. You would have to be 40 years old to vividly remember any of his games as a 14 year old teenager. When you revert to bringing up the bear it seems you’re really reaching. Just an opinion since most Bama fans today rarely even bring up the bear among themselves since most of us aren’t even old enough to remember him.

Got 12 but none in quite a long long time ....

August 3rd, 2009
4:03 pm

Tide has something that the rest of the SEC does not have….

PROBATION

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
4:11 pm

HAHA. Oh Tide Rising. You are the one who continually brings up stats from the Bear days. You have to dig up stats from 40 years back to make Bama look good. I only used his name. LSU has one down year while Bama has one good year and all of a sudden LSU is in a downward spiral while Bama is top dog again. Right, I get it. And you need to talk to more Bama fans or listen to Bama radio. All I hear is crap about Bear. It’s sickening. Bama fans still live in the Bear days. You may not but the majority do. If I am to leave Bear out of the conversation, you must not bring up stats from the ’60’s and you must recognize LSU’s accomplishments of this decade. Which you do not. You’re such a homer that you cannot even face that fact that Bama has blown chunks most of this decade, probation or not. You can’t simply forget about an entire decade of football. We haven’t even talked about the late 90’s have we? Were was bama? On the way down!!!! Sure LSU sucked, I fully and rightfully admit that. I also rightfully admit the ownage Bama showed LSU throughout the ’60’s and 70’s. but you, you my friend see through Crimson colored glasses.

I also find it humorious that you dig up stats from the past 40 years of Bama football while dismissing anything LSU did between 2000 and 2007. LSU won 2 National Championships during that span. 3 SEC Championships. 7-2 in Bowl games and something like 7-1 against Bama. You say Bama was on probation, yet again I ask, isn’t Bama always on probation? You ignored that in the last debate we had.

gdawginkalamazoo

August 3rd, 2009
4:13 pm

Charlotte Gator, never mind you are correct on that. He needs another title, fast.

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
4:13 pm

Saban dresses like Bear during the Spring games. Sounds like someone is living in the past!!!

gdawginkalamazoo

August 3rd, 2009
4:16 pm

If Saban were an animal what kind of animal would he be? Guess if he is going to be there a while we need to give him a nickname. The Bear was classic, what can we call Nick?

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
4:17 pm

I’ve got to get back to work as well. looks like I’m going to be at the office a little longer tonight!!

UGA fans, the board is now yours again!

11/7/09

Matt

August 3rd, 2009
4:20 pm

I like Weasel.

Pat

August 3rd, 2009
4:32 pm

In regards to the “Do you believe in bad karma? Just asking.” sentence in Mr. Barnhardt’s article, I believe in it and it’s due for Nutt, who is still running from it after getting off scot-free at Arkansas.
Nutt is due up some bad Karma and I’m hoping it hits him this year, his only chance to ever sniff success at Ole Piss.

Otto

August 3rd, 2009
4:34 pm

As a UGA fan I was enjoying Tide Rising doing his part to continue the tradition of Bama beating up on LSU.

Paddy

August 3rd, 2009
5:53 pm

Biggest flop in the ACC- Miami

Biggest flop in the SEC-I want to say Akansas because of that coward coach of theirs. But Ole Miss will not be able to stop the bleeding once it starts.

GatorBait

August 3rd, 2009
8:14 pm

is there an sec west? won’t matter too much this year. go gators.

obomaisaclown

August 3rd, 2009
8:27 pm

IF you can’t win championships do what Alabama does , make them up !!!

duran

August 3rd, 2009
8:33 pm

with all things happen at bammer
Lsu coach has a bab year this year look out
they will kick him out if he loses 4 or 5 this year

Big_Fan

August 3rd, 2009
8:42 pm

Alabama was supposed to be great last year? Most people were predicting 7 or 8 wins…a few 9.
The OL was not supposed to be great last season, and the QB was considered a liability going into the season…much like this year, only this team has more depth.

Nice revisionist history.

Saban inherited a train wreck and has turned the Tide faster than anyone thought possible. The Tide may not be NC contenders this season, but they will be very good. In 2010 Bama will be hard to handle.

Dawg in Jville

August 3rd, 2009
8:44 pm

Those were the best questions you could come up with? :-)

Does Arkansas have a defense?
Is Jevan Snead really a higher draft pick projection than Tebow?
How does that Auburn chop-blocking lineman stay eligible?
Is LSU’s Jefferson the real deal? Can he take it to the next level?
Does MSU have the talent to run a spread attack?
How is the new Bama safety going to do at 180 lbs. dripping wet?

Not great questions either, but I’m tryin…

Jeff

August 3rd, 2009
8:56 pm

I can’t believe that Houston Nutt waited as long as he did to pull the plug on Jamar Hornsby.

Also, LSU’s quarterbacking HAS to be better this year, although that’s not saying much. I wouldn’t expect anything productive from Jefferson or Lee. If I were an LSU fan, I’d be happy just to not get game-killing mistakes from them.

BamaBoots

August 3rd, 2009
10:26 pm

Tide Rising

You may have to let up on these guys. THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

Denver Dog

August 3rd, 2009
11:08 pm

The tide won’t be rebuilt in time for Va Tech, but Alabama has something to prove after the Sugar Bowl performance, or lack thereof.

Jarrett Lee, will play and then sit. He will be a great back-up and will be used that way.

Auburn will suffer on line, but they will adapt and will be a real surprise in the SEC west

Arkansas gets a great boost, but they still need a defense

Ole Miss, Houston Nutt signed too many and waited too long to cut folks. He is a good coach, but the teams will be ready for him this year.

Gators will be close to winning it all, alot depends on Jax, and LSU

Gen Neyland

August 4th, 2009
12:29 am

Good golly Miss Molly, Rehashing the past year’s ups and downs will never grow old…Like they say in Divorce Court – There’s his side, her side and the truth…?

Oy!!!!

August 4th, 2009
6:18 am

Sad news for Georgia that Florida’s Coach Myers will be around for years to come. “Did I mention he got paid!!!!”

[...] Five burning questions about the SEC West As always, the landscape changes between the end of spring practice and now. So we’re going to spend the next few days looking at the most burning questions still surrounding the SEC and ACC as we head into two-a-days. On the eve of preseason practice, here are my five burning questions about the SEC West: 1-The Alabama offensive line is going to eventually grow into a good unit. But will it happen in time for Virginia Tech? 2-What’s the future for LSU QB Jarrett Lee? 3. How important is the NCAA’s decision to allow Broderick Green to be immediately eligible to play? 4-What about that Auburn offensive line? Any chance they can stay healthy? 5-Ole Miss finally cut signee Jamar Hornsby loose. Is that good karma or bad karma going into preseason practice? [...]

ATL

August 4th, 2009
9:21 am

really Tony, those are your 5 burning questions. Give me a break. I have 5 for LSU alone and none of which involves the backup QB. Come on Tony, your SEC East bias clearly shows.

braxton24

August 5th, 2009
2:27 am

why do these things all ways end up with 2 ppl actin like little children! well lsu sucks well bama still talks about the bear… give me a break! haha bama had a great season last yr cant take that away! they did lose the bowl game but thats bc the utah off was no slouch they shocked bama with 3 big plays. bama actually came back and got control of the game just a little to late! bama will prolly win 8 or 9 this yr their back up is not that bad! lsu is a team with alot of great players but much like my au tigers they lack in key skill positions! aus line will be fine! they just needed a yrs worth of butt whoopins to get some exp! trotter in my mind would have started this yr but with the injury we will never know! im praying that rollinson lives up to the hype and we start a true freshman! never liked burns caudle is to inexp and todd just flat out sucks (yes i know he was “100″% last yr) but the fact is he isnt what au needs! ole miss lost some key players to injury as well and prolly will go 500. just remember au loves being the underdog! last yr we were highly touted and blew our nuts! in the yrs past when we were supposed to be avg. we had great seasons! hopefully history repeats itself!haha all in all florida is just to stacked all over the field! they win the sec and prolly yet another national title!

David Smith

August 13th, 2009
10:24 am

I think this is the way things will pan out in the SEC West in 2009:

1)Ole Miss
2)Alabama
3)LSU
4)Arkansas
5)Mississippi State
6)Auburn(Worst Auburn team since 1999)

Jay Rock

August 15th, 2009
8:52 am

David Smith

Your SECwest ranking is exactly how SI.com’s PreSeason 120-team ranking has it. And you/they may be right

But I don’t think so. Being especially tuned into Rebel Nutts and Hog Pets, I believe you’ll see a roll reversal there in ’09. I could say much more, but only have time to put out there a couple rankings I recently determined. I didn’t set out to predict the ’09 SECwest; instead the New Order of things over say the next five years chiefly in the Top Half of the conference + 2.

First, going into the 10 year of this decade, here is the W-L rankings of shall we say this passing decade (The Old Order):

Georgia
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Tennessee
Alabama

Arkansas
Ole Miss

Next, predictions for The New Order:

Florida
Alabama
Arkansas
LSU
Georgia
Ole Miss

Tennessee
Auburn

SECwest: And finally, my instincts for 2009, based upon the thinking that led to the above:

Alabama
Arkansas
LSU
Ole Miss
Auburn
Mississippi State

I guess this’ll stir things up!