The only league that can slow down the SEC–is the SEC


Birmingham—At 1:30 p.m. today Commissioner Mike Slive will kick off the SEC’s 2009 Football Media Days with his annual message on the state of the conference. This will be Slive’s eighth football media days since taking over as commissioner in 2002 and he will say that the state of the conference is very, very good.

He probably won’t say this but I will. The Southeastern Conference has been in existence since 1933 and there were a lot of great moments in the first 75 years. But competitively, academically, and financially the SEC has never been better than it is right now. And here’s the rub if you compete against the SEC: For a lot of different reasons this league is about to get even stronger.


Let us review:

**–In the 2008-2009 academic year the SEC won five national championships. It finished as the national runner-up in five other sports. So in 10 of the 20 sports that the league sponsors, the SEC finished first or second nationally.

**–Under Slive the SEC has won four national championships in football (2003, 2006, 2007, 2008) with a string of three straight. Florida is a unanimous preseason No. 1 and is favored to repeat as national champions. If the Gators win it, that will give the SEC five national championships in Slive’s eight years as commissioner. And that doesn’t count Auburn, which was 13-0 in 2004. Since Slive became commissioner the SEC has won a total of 43 national championships.

**–The upcoming academic year will mark the beginning of two unprecedented 15-year contracts with CBS and ESPN that will pump $2.8 billion (with a “B”)  into the 12 member institutions and provide unprecedented television exposure to the non-revenue sports and academics. Part of that exposure, we learned this week, is an SEC Network on ESPN that will reach into Big Ten, Big 12, and Big East country. The national interest in SEC football is that high.

**– While other conferences have had to shorten their football media days or eliminate them completely due to finances, the SEC expects over 900 media members (up from last year’s record of 836) to attend this three-day session.

But Slive, a former judge, told me that he will offer a few words of caution today. Yes, things are going very well for the Southeastern Conference.

“We should always remember that the only league that can impede the SEC’s continued ability to succeed,” said Slive, “is the SEC.”

What Slive means is that with all of this success, both competitively and financially, comes the obligation by the leaders of the SEC to practice even more due diligence. Slive’s goal when he took over was to have no teams on any kind of NCAA probation in five years. That goal wasn’t completely realized but there is no question that things are better on the enforcement front.

But with the competitive bar being raised every year and with multi-million dollar salaries at stake, there will be temptations to cut corners. Slive does not want that to happen on his watch.

“This has been one of the great periods in the history of the league,” Slive said. “I take great satisfaction in the success that we’ve had and the progress we’ve made in some other matters off the field. They go hand in hand.

“If we can keep vigilant and compassionate we can continue to enjoy what I have referred to as the golden age of our conference.”

In other words: If you’re the SEC right now, the only thing that can screw this up is you.

Slive had to have a heart to heart with his football coaches at the SEC Spring meetings in Destin. Actually, it was a lot more forceful than that. He had gotten fed up with the back biting among some of the coaches in the press and basically read them the riot act. The message was received and understood by the coaches. The basketball coaches got the same message and, with the arrival of John Calipari at Kentucky, the price of poker in that sport has also been raised considerably.

The last few years have been quite busy for Slive. First he was the coordinator of the BCS, which is one of the least popular jobs in college athletics. He just finished his chairmanship of the NCAA Men’s Basketball committee which may be the toughest, most time-consuming job in all of college sports.

While all that was going on, the SEC had another record year on the field and negotiated the biggest television contract in the history of college sports that will carry the SEC brand nationwide.

And did I mention that Slive’s daughter Anna, who ran the 2007 Final Four in Atlanta, is getting married in August? Slive said he is going to take a little time off in the coming weeks—if he can.

“I’m still waiting for summer to start,” said Slive. “But I think we’re entitled to 10 minutes of satisfaction and then we have to go back to work.”


Programming note: We’ll be doing our CSS show, “Talkin’ Football” live each day during SEC media days. Tonight’s show will feature Commissioner Slive along with the head coaches at Vanderbilt (Bobby Johnson), Arkansas (Bobby Petrino), Kentucky (Rich Brooks), and Mississippi State (Dan Mullen). Bob Neal, Mark Schlabach, and Sandra Golden will all be there to give you the inside access to SEC Media Days. Please join us. The show is at 6 p.m. with replays at 11 p.m. and 8 a.m. on Thursday.



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July 22nd, 2009
1:29 pm

Tide Rising:

Did you happen to notice where GA Tech ranked on graduation percentages?

Dawg Tired

July 22nd, 2009
1:30 pm

M needs to boost his medication. Clearly OCD. He has some pretty serious medical/psychological problems.

C. Spackler

July 22nd, 2009
1:33 pm

SEC, you ARE great!

However, Tony Barnyard wouldn’t leave his wife for any of your coaches like he would for Saint Bobby Bowden.

So we ACCers got that going for us, which is nice.

Tide Rising

July 22nd, 2009
1:43 pm


No. I didn’t see Tech’s grad rates. If its bad then I assume that just like us they have a lot of athletes leaving school early for astronaut training.

Seriously though, Tech really is a hard school and every student has to take some pretty demanding math and science classes no matter what their major is. I remember when I saw this that I thought the level of calculus required would have bumped me out immediately. Cal 1 was enough for me. I wanted no more of that in my college days.

King of Sandy Springs

July 22nd, 2009
1:55 pm

Regular Season Record vs. Other BCS Conferences/ND/Moutain West Conference, 2007-2008

ACC: 26-19 (.578)
Big Ten: 15-11 (.577)
Mtn West: 17-13 (.567)
Big East: 16-15 (.516)
Pac-10: 12-13 (.480)
Big 12: 12-14 (.462)
SEC: 13-16 (.448)

But this doesn’t mean anything does it? It’s just head to head competition. Tony care to elaborate why the SEC has the worst record? Oh by the way, Florida has 4 of those13 wins!! It should be called the Florida and Everyone Else Conferance. The SEC is not as tough as they think.

Gen Neyland

July 22nd, 2009
2:01 pm

G8R GRAD : I assume the party has already begun..? Oh well, save me a beer…


July 22nd, 2009
2:06 pm

Tide Rising……..Well said


July 22nd, 2009
2:20 pm

Don’t worry about m he must have misplaced his crack pipe this morning or his mother took away his dungens and dragons game.M i know you are gonna find this hard to belive but there was a time when tech use to draw 60,000 fans to their football games and they did not even have to give away a free hot dog and coke.This was in the early 60’s when tech was a member of the mighty SEC.The worst thing Bobby Dodd ever did was when he had Tech leave the confrence.Things have been all downhill for you since that time while things at GEORGIA have taken off.So m if you must be mad at someone be mad at Bobby Dodd that’s where all your problems started.But M it’s not all bad you get to go to your 40′000 seat stadium that’s half full and enjoy your hot dog and coke.Lot’s of luck loser.

Atlanta Gator

July 22nd, 2009
2:21 pm

Tide Rising—-Time to lose the math anxiety, my friend. If I could help Gator football player get A’s and B’s in the calculus survey course when I was a UAA tutor in grad school, I’m sure I could get you over the hump, too.

At Florida, all aspiring business majors (including athletes) are still required to take one semester of the survey of calculus sequence as part of their distribution requirements. Calculus really isn’t that hard (unless it includes those damn trigonometric functions), and it’s actually kind of fun when you get to see real world applications (like statistics). It also helps when you have a good tutor. LOL

Got 12?

July 22nd, 2009
2:23 pm


Do you have a breakdown of which SEC teams are responsible for those 16 losses? I suspect that the perennial cellar dwellers account for an inordinate amount of those losses.

Also, why are the bowl figures included? Bowl season, as you know, is when equally yoked teams square off.

Got 12?

July 22nd, 2009
2:31 pm

From The News, a detailed chart telling you what each SEC team has coming back in 2009:

Got 12?

July 22nd, 2009
2:32 pm

Just curious

July 22nd, 2009
2:36 pm

Why does everyone seem to imply the Ole Miss victory over Texas Tech was some great accomplishment when all you hear about the BIG Tway-ELVE! is that they can’t play D? 47-34, the final score, backs-up what everyone says. In fact, 47 pts was the 2nd most pts scored by Ole Miss in 2008 behind the 59-0 blowout of …. U. Louisiana Monroe.

All the SEC chest-thumping is getting a little annoying. Play the games ON THE FIELD, and determine a CHAMPION, not in the minds and wallets of the greedy, athletically lacking media & corporate sponsors.

So Ole Miss beats FL at FL, and USC loses AT Oregon State, but FL is the better 1-loss team bewteen the 2 (USC-FL), and plays for the NC. Says who? Would the Gators have beaten the Trojans in 2008 …. we’ll never know. Now, for the other two, Ole Miss & OSU. They both finished 9-4, but Ole Miss is the better team. Says who? OSU’s 4 losses were @ Stanford, Penn State, Utah, and home to Oregon. Ole Miss’ 4 losses were @ Wake Frst & Bama, and home to South Caro & Vandy. I think most would agree that OSU’s 4 losses were better teams than Ole Miss’s losses. Now, would the Rebels have beaten the Beavers had they played in 2008 …. we’ll never know. But it would have been a good 2nd/3rd round game in a playoff system!

Let’s get a playoff system in place much sooner than later before too much of the SEC “kool-aid” is consumed.


July 22nd, 2009
2:39 pm

Got 12,

Because statistics from the postseason are not convenient.

Sun Belt 1-0…..1.000
Mountain West 4-1…..0.800
SEC 7-2…..0.778
Pac Ten 4-2…..0.667
Big 12 5-3…..0.625
Big East 3-2…..0.600
Big Ten 3-5…..0.375
C-USA 2-4…..0.333
ACC 2-6…..0.250
WAC 1-3…..0.250
MAC 0-3…..0.000

Tide Rising

July 22nd, 2009
2:42 pm

A friend just called me and asked me where the coaches were sitting at sec media days. Who was sitting next to who and so on. I told him I wasn’t sure about any of that except that Kiffin was sitting in the time out corner. Sorry General Neyland but I just couldn’t resist.

Tide Rising

July 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

Atlanta gator,

I eventually got over my math phobia and now I find math concepts fascinating but I’m just not one to do the actual chalkboard work. What’s odd is that college algebra I hated with a passion but when I got to calculus I really didn’t hate it that much. Even odder is that I excelled in statistics. Perhaps its because one day I wanted to really use what I learned to gamble in casinos and on football games and to evaluate odds, etc. Math holds my interest when I can see the real world applications but when you’re just solving problems with no idea as to why you’re doing those problems then I have a hard time grasping it. Speaking of stats I think I’ll go look some up for the blogosphere.

Long Dawg

July 22nd, 2009
2:53 pm

King of Sandy Springs, your numbers mean nothing. You have to look at the matchups and you can’t conveniently leave out the bowl games. The ACC played in 45 non conference games vs 29 for the SEC. How is that possible with the minimum number of conference games required? Look at the ACC vs all other conferences, 50% more out of conference games. I think your numbers are wrong.

Jan Kemp wuz here

July 22nd, 2009
3:04 pm

There’s more teeth in the pre-natal ward at Northside than at Huh’s family reunion for both sides.

Gen Neyland

July 22nd, 2009
3:05 pm

Tide Rising : Time out indeed..! That’s okay, it made me laugh. Really, I’d have to think Kiffin was told Media Days begins on TH23JUL, shirts and shoes required..! Who is the class bully this year..?


July 22nd, 2009
3:27 pm

My ACC grad proctologist is the best, he was able to give me a full exam even with both of his hands on my shoulders.

I’m going back.


July 22nd, 2009
3:40 pm

Frankly, as a Georgia fan, I could care less about the SEC’s record overall vs other conferences. Suffice it to say, I’m quite sure that UGA/UF/LSU’s record vs the BCS and in the bowls is quite strong.

Look at the bowl records lately, look at the BCS games overall that the SEC has been involved in. Don’t forget that many of those BCS games had TWO SEC teams playing. Refresh my memory as to the last time the ACC had TWO BCS Bowl Teams.

I could go as far as to say that in 2007 that I think the SEC had the top two teams in the Nation at years end.

Tide Rising

July 22nd, 2009
3:49 pm

King of Sandy Springs and all other ACC and SEC fans,

Let’s just settle it once and for all on the ACC-SEC debate and look at head to head records of every time in each conference versus the other conference. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go!!!!!!!!!!

SEC overall winning %s and wins and losses vs the ACC

Alabama .88 winning % 30 wins 4 losses
LSU .81 22 wins 5 losses
Georgia .73 98 wins 32 losses
Tenn. .71 66 win 25 losses
Auburn .69 43 wins 18 losses
Vandy .63 39 wins 23 losses
Florida .59 49 wins 33 losses
Kentucky .53 20 wins 17 losses

Ole Miss .50 3 wins 3 losses break even against the acc

S. Carolina .475 155-172 losing record against ACC
Miss. State .375 4 wins 7 losses against ACC
Arkansas 0.0 0 wins and 3 losses against ACC

Overall the SEC has 8 teams with winning records against the ACC, 1 with a .500 record, and 3 teams with losing records against the ACC. Of further note is the absolutely dominating head to head performance of Alabama at 88 % and LSU at 81 %. Georgia and UT also have impressive over 70% winning records and Auburn is nearly at 70 with a 69% winning rate.

Now for a look at the ACCs head to head record against the SEC

Georgia Tech .51 winning % 177 wins 169 losses

Duke .46 winning % 41 wins 47 losses
Maryland .43 26 wins 35 losses
Miami .41 58 wins 81 losses
Boston Coll .41 14 wins 20 losses
Florida state .40 44 wins 66 losses
North Carolina .36 35 wins 65 losses
Virginia Tech .33 18 wins 38 losses
Wake Forest .29 12 wins 29 losses
Clemson .28 42 wins 111 losses
NC state .27 10 wins 28 losses
Virginia .24 8 wins 26 losses

So it looks like GT is the only ACC member who has a winning record against the SEC and even then its barely .51 %. Overall the other 11 ACC member’s performance against the SEC in all time head to head is nothing short of abysmal as any fair minded person can clearly see. Its horrible. Only 1 team with a barely over 50% winning record, 2 teams in the 30 % winning ratio against the SEC and 4 teams with winning %s in the 20s against the SEC. Also, 4 teams that are in the low 40% winning against the SEC.

The SEC VS ACC debate is over.

The source is a college football database of wins, losses, etc.

Got 12?

July 22nd, 2009
4:17 pm

Tide Rising,

You could also have used annual attendance, TV ratings or revenue to end the ACC v. SEC football debate. (Somehow, I doubt the debate is over.)

Michael Stipe

July 22nd, 2009
4:32 pm

The SEC rules! Oh, and remember to wear eco-fashions to the games this year. Keep our Good Earth green…JMS

Regime Change

July 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm

CMR came to UGA in 2001. The SEC has changed since then.

Bama didnt have Saban.
FL had Zook, and now has Meyer.
Ark now has Petrino
Nutt went to Ole Miss
USC got better when Spurrier arrived
KY has begun to turn their program around
Tenn now has some new NFL coaches, and a Super-Bowl winning D.
GT now has CPJ, not Chan Gailey

The point:

CMR’s record W-L record for the NEXT 7 years isnt gonna be anything like the last 7 years. Its over.

CMR’s W-L record is gonna start getting WORSE, starting with a beatdown by OKST to start a 7-5 season.

Thats right: Losses to OKST, Ark, LSU, FL, and GT.

Too Easy

July 22nd, 2009
5:03 pm

And what would gt’s record vs. the SEC look like if you only counted games when gt was actually in the acc.

Tide Rising

July 22nd, 2009
5:11 pm

Too easy,

I’ll look that stat up also when I get time. Since UGA has dominated the series since tech joined the ACC it would probably end up giving Tech an overall losing record against the sec. I’ll look that up and see but if that’s the case then nobody in the acc would have a winning record against the sec.


July 22nd, 2009
5:45 pm

With all those SEC teams winning National Championships in football, UGAY won a big fat zero! it’s been like that for 28 years.Maybe the women Gym dawgs can help the over rated mutts. UGA= A WOMENS UNIVERSITY! HAHA


July 22nd, 2009
5:48 pm

JoeV…… the reason the sec is receiving all the attention, 1)quality football, 2)the fervor of its fanbase.. when sec fans started recognizing the respect it’s member schools recieved by chanting “sec”, “sec”, “sec” whenever a conf. team was doing well ooc, not just one sec team, but all sec teams benefitted, so, it all kind of mushroomed from there. 3)the sec regular season ticket sales, II to none and one of the hardst to procure. these are the intangibles that the espn’s and other networks love to see, so voila; big big money deals! 4) see no. 2. without the way that fans of the sec came together, i don’t the sec would be signing these sized contracts. 10 or so years ago, the conf wasn’t getting any love from the networks or other conferences for the perks of co. football, but the vocal sec fans helped to change that sit.
so maybe other conf’s fans should follow the sec fans mantra


July 22nd, 2009
5:48 pm

If you are going to be ME then be ME. I would like to go to JAN KEMP for the exam like she gave UGA–both hands, all her feet, and the Strap-on. steal my name but get it right.

The Truth

July 22nd, 2009
5:55 pm

“In other words: If you’re the SEC right now, the only thing that can screw this up is you.”

Perhaps this is what Arkansas was thinking when it backed out of its HOME game against Texas this year because the piggies were afraid to play two Big 12 teams in the same season.


July 22nd, 2009
6:15 pm

Now if you guys will excuse me, all this talk about strap-ons has gotten me all hot and bothered, I’m off to the Heretic.

No calls, plz.


July 22nd, 2009
6:47 pm

LMFAO Anonymous…

The definition of dominance has NOTHING to do with the score (unless you are talking about 63-17!). A 3-1 record over the past 4 years is dominance. ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, you silly coot. 65-37-4 overall. 8 of the last 10. 16 of the last 20! The last time you beat us 2 in a row was 1970!!! My God man, what does a team have to do for you to consider them dominant?!?!? UGA is dominant over Clemson, I would NEVER try to argue that…the numbers speak for themselves. So why is it that you coots can’t see that about Clemson’s dominance over you? Lord man.


I’m not arguing that SEC football isn’t the tops! I just can’t get behind ANY reason to EVER root for your conference. They are supposed to be your enemies man. You are SUPPOSED to HATE them.


July 22nd, 2009
6:50 pm

Tide Rising. Thanks for the stats…numbers don’t lie. I don’t know why this gets argued all the time. The SEC is a better conference top to bottom, bottom to top. Now lets all move on and spot the damn ball! 45 days!


July 22nd, 2009
8:28 pm

SEC is the #1 OVERRATED conference!! So freak’n top heavy and the bottom half is so weak in the SEC. The “SEC is sooo tough to play every week” chant is an absolute lie and a complete JOKE!!

The actual reason the SEC can not be slowed down by any other league is simply because the SEC has a strict plan to schedule the absolute weakest out of conference schedule possible. SEC fans should be embarrassed by the out of conference teams; the only reason most (maybe all) of the decent-to-good out of conference games are scheduled is because of automatic rivalry games.

It seems to be working well for the SEC, but only because the sports media LOVES to talk about how strong the SEC teams are and does not expose the conference for the VERY weak schedules nearly all of the SEC teams play each and every year.

Go GT and I can’t wait for some College Football!!


July 22nd, 2009
8:40 pm

The phantom “NUMBERS” listed by Rising Tide are funny; the total number of SEC vs. ACC games is 871 while the total number of ACC vs. SEC games is 1139.

It is hard to believe numbers like these when the total games played do not even come close to adding up……….did Rising Tide think he could just list a bunch of random stats and think GT fans would take the numbers as the truth. More lies and mis-information to support an inflated opinion of the most over-rated conference in the nation (The SEC)!! I have no doubt many or most of the blind (sometimes ignorant of the truth) SEC fans take these numbers as absolute facts.

Tide Rising

July 23rd, 2009
12:14 am

GT Grad,

The numbers come from and you can look them up for yourself. Also, the numbers differ because some include or don’t include Tech’s time in the SEC and Carolina’s time in the ACC. That is why they are off.

Go to and not only will it give you the same breakdown but it will list individual games.

BS Patrol

July 23rd, 2009
1:05 am

Florida & The Eleven Dwarfs!


July 23rd, 2009
7:16 am

thanks Tony–love the academic reference–But competitively, academically, and financially the SEC has never been better than it is right now–…academically??? C’mon, no one is really interested in drinking that kool-aid. To suggest that somehow the academic program is dependent upon athletic dollars is ludicrous. And btw, lovely of you to mention the marriage of Slive’s daughter. For a big guy, you fit in his back pocket pretty nicely.

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July 23rd, 2009
8:52 am

The SEC’s graduation rate for athletes is terrible. Of course the goal is “win at any cost”. Too bad most athletes don’t graduate at the rate some of the Big 12 athletes do. By the way, how many Academic All-Americans has Georgia produced?

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July 23rd, 2009
11:46 am

The Big 12 and Big East both beat the SEC in all-time head to head bowl game match-ups.