I believe Urban Meyer. Do you?

Media and fans have become justifiably skeptical any time a college football coach says he isn’t interested in a particular job and professes shock and dismay that the media would even enquire about such a thing. The problem is that usually in his denials, the coach always leaves himself a little wiggle room with phrases like:

 “I intend to be here the rest of my career” or

 

 

 “I have the best job in college football”

 or the always crowd-pleasing: “This is the only job I want.”

Urban Meyer did none of that when he returned my phone call on Wednesday. The Florida coach was emphatic:

He is not going to Notre Dame. Ever.

Well, well.

The speculation about the Florida coach and Notre Dame has been on a low burn under the surface for a while. The speculation was natural. There are ties there. He worked for Lou Holtz. His mother loves the place. She named him after a pope.

But that low burn was turned up to a full flame last week with an internet column from the state of Alabama that said “Urban Meyer is probably leaving Florida after the season to go to Notre Dame.”

“I got back from a family vacation and got hit with that by one of our recruits,” Meyer said. “He told me that other schools were saying it. So I knew I had to be very definite, very clear.”

Meyer was attending Pat Dooley’s (Gainesville Sun) charity golf tournament last Saturday when he stood before the crowd and said: “I’m not going to Notre Dame. Ever. I’m going to be the coach at Florida for a long time, as long as they want me.”

Then he told the media in the room to print it.

“It (the speculation) was just getting ridiculous,” Meyer told me. “I have a great deal of respect for Notre Dame but there is nothing there on either side.”

Now if Meyer wins his third national championship in four years and flies off to South Bend, then you can let him have it and he’ll deserve the wrath that comes his way. But I believe the guy and here’s why: It’s simply logical.

Like Meyer, I have a great deal of respect for Notre Dame. In fact, I’m going there this weekend for the College Football Hall of Fame Enshrinement ceremonies. It’s a special place. But from a football standpoint, it is simply not the same place where Holtz won a national championship in 1988.

We have had a generation of players grow up with Notre Dame rarely relevant on the national stage. They have never heard of Knute Rockne or Ara Parseghian. They know Lou Holtz because he’s on television.

Yes, Notre Dame has its own television network (NBC) but now every game is on television so that it is no longer an advantage for Notre Dame. The SEC has two television networks (CBS, ESPN). Just like the schools in the Big Ten have had a tough time recruiting the great speed players from the South, so has Notre Dame. And in today’s game you are not going to win without speed.

My Georgia friends are not going to like this but it is an undeniable fact: Steve Spurrier (1990-2001) turned Florida into one of the top three jobs in all of college football. It is the state university in the state that produces a ton of Division I-A prospects. Meyer does not have to travel very far to recruit all the talent he needs. That would not be the case at Notre Dame, where you have to recruit nationally just to have a chance. There are reasons why Urban Meyer chose Florida over Notre Dame in December of 2004. Those reasons have not changed.

Now is it possible that Urban Meyer, who just turned 45 last Friday, might someday want different challenge than winning the SEC? Sure, it’s possible. Anything is possible in the crazy business of coaching.

 But in my experience coaches leave because somebody offers them a better job for more money. Notre Dame, for all of its great tradition, is never going to be a better job than Florida. The world has changed too much. Meyer is making  $3.25 million now and his president, Bernie Machen, is on record saying Meyer should be the highest paid coach in the SEC. LSU’s Les Miles was the league’s highest-paid coach last season at  $3.751 million. Alabama’s Nick Saban will average $4 million over the life of his eight-year contract.

So Meyer is going to get paid. If he ever leaves Florida, it’s not going to be because of money. Florida athletics director Jeremy Foley stayed ahead of the curve and made Steve Spurrier the first $2 million college football coach in 1997. He is not going to let Urban Meyer walk out the door over a few million dollars.

Meyer is like any other football coach in that he has his supporters and his detractors. His supporters will almost always give him the benefit of the doubt. His detractors will not. They want him out of the SEC, just like they wanted Spurrier out when he was dominating the league. They will question the veracity of everything he says and does. That’s part of the game.

 But even Meyer’s biggest critics will admit that the man is not stupid.  After such a definitive statement, he knows that if he leaves for Notre Dame the fan and media  backlash will make what happened to Nick (“I am not going to be the coach at Alabama”) Saban look like a walk in the park.

So I believe him. Do you?

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236 comments Add your comment

lakerat

July 16th, 2009
8:19 am

The proverbial ” I did not have sex with the woman” comment – along the lines of Saban saying he was not taking the AL job – or the proverbial “vote of confidence” by a GM or AD.

Urban “Crier” is as good as gone, if only because he continues to address the subject!

MiltonDawg

July 16th, 2009
8:20 am

What Urban wants, Urban gets. Urban will be in orange & blue for another year or so..then bolt. He reminds me of Bobby Petrino. He’s just telling the Gator faithful what they want to hear. Money talks in CFB.

stoopid

July 16th, 2009
8:22 am

whata weasel. he says that now, but if UF were to have a couple of down years, I guarantee he bolts to South Bend!

KR

July 16th, 2009
8:23 am

My friends from Ole Miss told me that Tommy Tuberville publicly stated that the only way he was leaving Mississippi was in a pine box. You can’t get more definitive than that. Of course, the next day he was in Auburn accepting the head coaching job there.

I believe Urban Meyer will be the Florida coach for the 2009 season and that he is making plans to be there in the subsequent seasons. I believe the same things about Mark Richt and Les Miles.

But as they say: NEVER say NEVER.

Goner

July 16th, 2009
8:26 am

Bye gators, Urban will be out like a fat kid in dodge ball.

He’s the best coach in football. If you don’t believe it just ask him.

TommyP

July 16th, 2009
8:27 am

No way do I believe him or should anyone believe him. Coaches say this kind of thing DAILY. It’s something that is said to personally aid their cause, which is recruiting.

Notre Dame is EXACTLY the kind of job Urban will take. This is why:

1) Urban has ties to the university.
2) He’s not only won 1 national title at Florida but 2. Oh yeah…he also has hands-down the best team in the nation starting out this year. Nothing left to prove.
3) This is the last year of Tim Tebow.
4) Despite what he’s done at Florida, it’s already been done by Spurrier. (yeah he has one more title but I’m talking simply dominating the SEC)
5) The PRESTIGE at Notre Dame can not be matched. At all.
6) While Notre Dame is not in a recruiting hotbed and the kids of today didn’t grow up seeing ND success, the name still carries significant weight. Add Urban’s coaching prestige and recruiting ability and they’ll be right back up there in recruiting.
7) What better job to take after what he’s done at Florida than one that is filled with tremendous history but has fallen on hard times. One that “people in the know” seem to think will never be what it once was.

When he takes the Notre Dame job, the “Urban Liar” moniker should take top stage. But it won’t because of the media.

Class of '98

July 16th, 2009
8:32 am

The next coach at Notre Dame will be Paul Johnson.

No BCS

July 16th, 2009
8:33 am

I give him another 3 years of mediocrity after Tebow leaves before he heads for the NFL. I do believe him when he says he won’t go to Notre Shame though.

Gov. Clinton Tyree

July 16th, 2009
8:33 am

As the former governor of the great state of Florida as well as a TE in the Graves era, I have really enjoyed having Urban here.

I think the danger is not that Notre Dame comes calling, but that his career will be relatively short because of his intensity and hands-on approach which will eventually wear him out. In short, we’ve got no possibility of a Bobby Bowden situation with our guy Urban.

Ten or fifteen years is about as much as he’ll be able to stand, then he’ll be ready for Lou Holtz’ job. Lou should be 85 and ready to go by then.

Bama Aaron

July 16th, 2009
8:34 am

To determine if he’ll leave ask yourself this question. What’s more important to him? And no the answer is not money…he’ll get more than enough of that at either Florida or Notre Dame.
Is it more important or more of a challege to sustain Florida at where he has them and have a realistic shot at competing for SEC and National titles every year?
Or is it more important for him to build his legacy and go try to rebuild Notre Dame with less talent and more hoops to jump through?

I think he stays at UF for a long time. Though personally as a Bama fan I would just as soon see him gone.

mike

July 16th, 2009
8:35 am

the top 1% of the top 1% comment says it all about urban.

TommyJack

July 16th, 2009
8:41 am

Art Vandelay

July 16th, 2009
8:41 am

TommyP, wishing he’d leave UF doesn’t make it so. ND has no more prestige in football circles than UF does, and either you’re completely ignoring every reason Tony just listed for Urban staying, or you simply can’t read. And, by the way, his “ties” to ND are certainly weaker than his ties to UF.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
8:43 am

TommyP,

While I have a different point of view being UF grad, I do have to say thank you for contributing to what’s going to be a good dialogue today. As expected, the Crier, Liar flamefest has ensued on this post, however, you actually made points as to why you think he’s gone. I get the impression that character assaults with no examples, evidence, or personal experience is the easy way out to just disparage a coach from a rival school. Isn’t high school fun?

rocksteadyfreddie

July 16th, 2009
8:44 am

I guess convincing themselves that Urban Meyer will leave Florida is a more plausible reality for UGA fans than accepting the fact that Urban Meyer owns Mark Richt and will work him like a rented mule for as long as he chooses to do so.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
8:48 am

Urban’s ties to Ohio State are just as strong as his ties to ND. I can certainly understand the argument that he’s accomplished a lot at Florida and what’s left to prove. It was the reason SOS left and Urban is certainly going to be tempted by the same reasoning. Can’t fault him if he leaves for that.

What seems to not be getting a lot of play is the fact that he picked UF over ND the first time so he could be a dad. He doesn’t want to recruit nationally and miss out on being with his family, esp. if he can have a job where he recruits regionally and can make the short drive to ATL to see his college daughter. I wonder where the Crier/Liar crowd stands regarding his conviction to be a family man and raise his son to the best of his ability.

Eric

July 16th, 2009
8:49 am

So more money is not important to big time college coaches, bamaaron? Tell that to your own 10 million dollar man. The more you have, the more you want. The bigger the paycheck, the bigger the ego. It’s a vicious circle and college coaches are not immune to that. Do I believe Urban? Hell no!

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
8:50 am

Do we really want to start posting quotes to “prove” something about people’s characters? I’m sure some quick comments browsing and a quality google search will bring up plenty of juicy material on many of the utlra-negative posters here and even a few high profile SEC coaches.

RAMBLE ON!!!

July 16th, 2009
8:51 am

TIME OUT, TIME OUT!!!

It’s too much fun beating UGAg to leave UF, just ask Paul Johnson.

…I can’t find my blue bird.

rocksteadyfreddie

July 16th, 2009
8:52 am

Time out, Florida. This is their 2nd charged time out of the half.

TommyP

July 16th, 2009
8:54 am

Art: I do not wish Urban would leave for Notre Dame. As a Georgia fan, I want to see us beat Florida more than an isolated time here or there and go around .500 against him.

And Florida does not have the historical prestige that Notre Dame does. That’s just asinine to even think.

Charlotte: It looks like I’m the only one that has stated reasons to defend my opinion. There is no doubt that Meyer is a great coach. No doubt. But he’s done some strange things in the past that have resulted in his nicknames, to say the least. I’m not going to list them all because that’s not what this post is about. I’m going to stay on topic. And I’m not going to get into the immature crap that makes up 80% of these blogs. (and the thing you just complained about is what you’re doing)

Rocksteady: Urban HAS owned Richt. The hope is that will change. And soon.

Typical Mutt Fan

July 16th, 2009
8:57 am

Notre Dame next coach will be nick saban or paul johnson. they both kicked our a$$ last year, that my reason. go dawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwgs!

Mark Richt

July 16th, 2009
8:57 am

I am praying for him to leave.

rocksteadyfreddie

July 16th, 2009
8:58 am

Tommy,
in all honesty, what do a bunch of national titles won before 1950 have to do with winning football games and landing bigtime recruits in 2009? I hear about NDs tradition. It is impressive. But as a guy who is 28, I’d much rather the brighter days of my program be ahead rather than behind. Barnhart hit it, kids today have no clue about Notre Dame. Your average recruit is 17. They were born the year that Garrison Hearst was in the Heisman running at UGA. the 1980s are ancient history to these kids, much less Notre Dame’s hey day. Tradition is big with alumni, historians, and fans, but means little to todays current athletes. It has been quite a while since the 4 horsemean converted on 3rd and 4.

TommyP

July 16th, 2009
9:04 am

Rocksteady: I agree with a lot of what you said. Probably most. But Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They’ve fallen on hard times, no doubt. But everyone knows about Notre Dame for one reason or another. We’re not talking Washington Huskies football here. Notre Dame’s name and Urban Meyer’s track record will get the best in that nation to visit South Bend. Once these kids realize that when they get Notre Dame to the top again, they will be the Derek Jeters of college football.

No college football team in the nation gets catered to by the media like Notre Dame.

DawginLex

July 16th, 2009
9:05 am

Who cares if he says he is staying or leaving? We have beaten him once already. He can be beaten. Just go play the games and win. Who cares what he says?

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
9:09 am

TommyP

Point taken.

1) Ties to the University
- As I’ve previously posted, I don’t agree with this being all that important. He has similar ties to Ohio State which is arguably a better job than ND.

2) Nothing left to prove.
- Completely agree with you on this one. If this was the reason he left, I couldn’t be upset at him for it and would wish him the best.

3) This is the last year of Tim Tebow.
- Gotta disagree on this being a reason he’d leave. This would be like Richt and UGA fans thinking their team was done since Stafford left. There’s plenty more quality players and UM’s stated goal has been to turn UF into a program that reloads. What better way to do that then not fall off of a cliff after one of the greatest Gators of all time moves on.

4) Despite what he’s done at Florida, it’s already been done by Spurrier. (yeah he has one more title but I’m talking simply dominating the SEC)
- Similar to #2 there’s merit to this as well, however, I don’t think as much. I think the Spurrier shadow has all but become a passing thought to UM and many Gator fans. Clearly SOS is the reason UF is in this position, but UM had done enough to distinguish himself from the visored one.

5) The PRESTIGE at Notre Dame can not be matched. At all.
- Agreed that the prestige can’t be matched, however, it doesn’t mean its a better job. I think anyone outside the SEC would acknowledge that UF is the better job between the two and I don’t imagine prestige matters if recruits don’t care.

6) While Notre Dame is not in a recruiting hotbed and the kids of today didn’t grow up seeing ND success, the name still carries significant weight. Add Urban’s coaching prestige and recruiting ability and they’ll be right back up there in recruiting.
- I don’t see this same thing playing out at Michigan, Penn State, or other powerhouses of yester year that aren’t elite teams/programs. I’d argue that recruits knowing about USC, Ohio State, Oklahoma has less to do with past glory/history and more to do with recent success.

7) What better job to take after what he’s done at Florida than one that is filled with tremendous history but has fallen on hard times. One that “people in the know” seem to think will never be what it once was.
- I think this one is a toss up because nobody but UM knows what his next step or career aspirations would be. I suspect most UF supporters would think this isn’t a big deal to UM while non-UF supporters would argue that it is. I think this is a push.

TommyP

July 16th, 2009
9:12 am

Rocksteady: Couple more things. Using your logic, if a kid hasn’t witnessed a program winning a national title, he won’t give that school a chance? Hmmm….as many on here note, Georgia hasn’t won one in almost 30 years but they have a top 10 recruiting class annually.

Let’s take a look at a program like Texas. At your age, before Mack Brown, you had never seen Texas do squat. However, the right coach came along and now they’re at the top of college football every single year. Yet they have a great football history.

Class of '98

July 16th, 2009
9:15 am

What means most to high school recruits today isn’t about climate, recent championships or TV time. It’s about which schools put the most players into the NFL.

Paul Johnson to Notre Dame is a perfect fit. He doesn’t have to get the 5-star recruits to win big, he can recruit players that could actually qualify academically at Notre Dame, and as the icing on the cake, the triple-option is a historical throwback and would be an ideal match for the tradition of Notre Dame.

I’m not claiming to have inside information on this, and yes I’m a UGA grad, but if PJ has another good/great year at GT and Weis flubs up another season, I would go after Johnson REALLY, REALLY hard if I were the AD at Notre Dame. It would be a match made in heaven.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
9:16 am

DawginLex,

You’re quite honestly my favorite kind of UGA fan. While I obviously don’t have much love for the dawgs, the mentality displayed by your comments is what makes the rivalry so great and makes UGA a quality opponent. We want nothing more than someone that will work hard all season to beat us, which I think works both ways. The real reason UF/UGA fans have such a bitter rivalry is because they view each other as threats to their stated goals. As an example, I think much more about the game in JAX than any matchups with FSU, as I’m sure UF is a bigger deal most years than Tech.

Anyway, just wanted to point out that I think you represent the vast majority of UGA fans/grads and that I’m looking forward to a good game in JAX.

JaxDawg

July 16th, 2009
9:21 am

lakerat- he’s only addressing it because others keep bringing it up.

Why would Urban leave UF? He’s coaching in the most competitive league in the country, He’s living in Florida, where people from up north come to vacation. He’s in one of the top recruiting hotbeds in the country, and the two main state rivals are struggling. Foley will probably make him the first 5 million dollar a year coach.
While he has strong ties to ND, that program is a mess. The last 3 coaching hires have not panned out. They have tradition, but most of the top recruits coming out now were just toddlers the last time ND was consistently relavant.
The only way I see him leaving is if he gets bored and wants to take on the challenge of bringing ND back to the national spotlight, and I don’t see him getting bored anytime soon.

Everyone should just give the “Urban’s leaving” thing a rest. If people think the only way to stop UF is by UM leaving and continuing to hope for that, only makes us look desperate and pathetic.

Everything comes and goes in cycles. There was a time not that long ago when everyone thought FSU & Miami would dominate forever, and look at where they are now. Florida is enjoying their success now, but for how much longer? That remains to be seen.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
9:22 am

TommyP,

I don’t think it’s National Championships, but a combination of being a perennially successful team as well as Class of ’98’s comment about players in the NFL. What keeps UGA in the minds of many recruits is the relative consistency of 10 win seasons and New Years Day bowls as well as players getting put into the NFL. Notre Dame and Michigan, as examples, have had neither, and not until recently has Penn State. USC turned it around once Carroll got there, just like Texas and OSU did. Let’s remember that between Eddie George and Tressel, OSU was forgotten, with the like of Joe Germaine and David Boston being their big time studs. Stoops turned around an Oklahoma who was going nowhere but now has been churning out NFL players and Big 12 titles.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
9:29 am

JaxDawg,

Well said. Miami is not too far removed from Nat’l titles and 10 first round draft picks. I’d agree that UM getting bored is not terribly likely given the intensity of the SEC and all the work required to match the Bama, LSU, UGA, and even up and coming UT and Ole Miss programs. (FYI…I know Ole Miss will be really good this year, but they need to prove they can consistently stay up there and not catch magic in a bottle and then fizzle like Arkansas, which I guess is making a resurgence as well).

Anyway, to your point I think a key to UF staying good over the next couple of years is how much experience young guys get this upcoming season. We will lose a lot of talent and leadership to graduation and early draft entrees depending on the season’s outcome, and the young talent is going to have to step in next year and perform. There’s no free lunch or substitute for experience in the SEC. Everyone takes their lumps. The young guys have to grow up quick or we have another year like 2007 or worse.

TommyP

July 16th, 2009
9:31 am

Charlotte: Now this is getting fun. Thanks for the rebuttal.

My response on your take:

1) My memory is failing me but didn’t he say at one time that Notre Dame was his “dream job”? I think THAT’S why the fascination of the Urban to Notre Dame rumors originated (and still exists).

I do not see how the Ohio State job is a better job than Notre Dame, however. Easier to win in the short term? Yes. Better job? I have to disagree. Get Notre Dame back to the BCS each year and you’re Joe Torre of the Yankees. Do it with Ohio State and you’re best known for your sweater-vest.

2) We agree.

3) Glad you compared Tebow to Stafford. :) It’s no comparison. And Tebow isn’t “one of the greatest Gators ever”….he IS the greatest Gator ever. Without competition.

4) We agree.

5) I think it’s a better job, as stated earlier, because of the “what can be” aspect of Notre Dame. The media shoves the Irish down our throats…when they’re 3-8. They have the greatest (and most unfair) advantage to play in a BCS bowl because of the “Notre Dame rule” which basically assures them of a bid if they’re barely mediocre. Take Notre Dame back to the BCS annually and you’re the most recognizable college football coach in the nation. Because ESPN, Fox, AJC, etc. will make sure of it.

6) It’s not playing out at Michigan because of a few reasons. Rich Rodriguez switched the offensive philosophy from a late ’80s Oakland A’s Bash Brothers offense to an ‘85 Whitey Herzog jackrabbit speed game. You can’t do that overnight. Also, we’re talking Rich Rodriguez. C’mon…that name doesn’t carry any weight.

Penn State seems to do pretty well, especially lately. But how excited can a kid get to play for a coach that’s ready to retire…or die? Cruel, but that’s the truth.

As I said to another poster, look at what Mack Brown has done at Texas. Before Mack, those kids hadn’t witnessed top seasons in their lifetime. But he took a job that was a sleeping giant and made it into what it is now.

7) Agreed.

TommyP

July 16th, 2009
9:35 am

Charlotte: Your 9:22 post proved my point exactly. All of those programs were fledgling programs until the right coach arrived.

Now they are powerhouses.

Huh?

July 16th, 2009
9:35 am

I think the SEC should somehow force him to leave Florida. Its going to get boring having the same champion year after year after year. No one will ever beat the great Urban Meyer again. We’ll all be fighting for second place. Maybe the SEC could put together an All-Star team comprised of the SEC’s best non-Florida players and have them play the Gators. That is the only way the SEC is going to be at all interesting as long as the great Urban Meyer is around. I would even submit that Florida should consider rotating in some NFL opponents on to the schedule. And yes Gator fans, if you lose it will count towards the SEC East race. I’m sorry, but we’ve got to keep this interesting or the SEC will lose money.

mcdawg

July 16th, 2009
9:40 am

The Pope of Gainseville

LaterGator

July 16th, 2009
9:41 am

Imagine! A great university like Notre Dame with a football team, but no coach. You would think they would have hired somebody by now.

The Grinch

July 16th, 2009
9:42 am

To RAMBLE ON

I get it. You’ve dropped your Roddy Jones man-crush and now you have a Paul Johnson man-crush. You mention the guy in every post. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Bull Gator

July 16th, 2009
9:43 am

Keep dreaming haters. Saint Urban isn’t going anywhere. It will be particularly enjoyable listening to all you next season predicting UF’s downfall after Tebow leaves, only to watch you whine and complain when Johnny Brantley continues the tradition of dominance that Meyer is establishing in Gainesville. It’s great to be a Florida Gator!

TommyP

July 16th, 2009
9:44 am

LaterGator: If he was doing a great job, there wouldn’t be rumors of Urban replacing him, huh?

Otto

July 16th, 2009
9:45 am

Why would Urban leave for ND? The facilities are not as good, it is harder to recruit and UF is paying him a fortune.

If he stays at UF he can win more titles and build an empire. Urban’s name will be up there with Woody Hayes and the Bear. If he bounces around he could be the next Scnellengerger sp? or SOS.

If he did move I would see it being to Ohio St but Tressel isn’t going anywhere soon.

TommyP

July 16th, 2009
9:45 am

Bull Gator: This Bulldog isn’t dreaming. I want Urban to stay so we can someday level the playing field while he’s there.

DawginLex

July 16th, 2009
9:46 am

Thanks charlottegator,

On the other blog, there are some classless gator posters who are bragging about the stadium emptying in the 2nd half like last year being an “annual tradition” for UGA. I pointed out to them as you have stated, that despite the recent series trend, it is still very much a rivalry.

That’s why it doesn’t need to move from jville.

Huh?

July 16th, 2009
9:50 am

Bull Gator, I’d be more concerned about losing all those stud defensive players you’ve got right now. They will leave and their replacements may not be as good. This happens. There are really two core ingredients to a successful SEC football team: Defense and offensive line. You get thin in those areas and you can struggle. All it takes is a string of injuries or attrition. I have some shocking news for you but the great Florida Gators are not immune from these problems. No college football team is, not even with St. Urban as their coach. We’ll see what happens, but suffice to say, if you’re expecting 13-1 championship seasons from here on out you’re going to be sorely disappointed. I’m not hating, just trying to help you out little buddy.

Maddog

July 16th, 2009
9:50 am

I for one do not think Meyer will leave for ND. Perhaps they have a more storied tradition, but virtually every team in the country would love to have the success UF has enjoyed since ‘91. Money might motivate Meyer to go to ND because I think they would easily make him the highest paid coach in the country and would probably throw in some stock options or something.

Meyer heads up the most successful program in the most successful conference in the country. Two NCs in three years. A Heisman trophy winner. Sure, he could leverage these for the huge contract, but I just don’t see it.

Perhaps like me, Meyer is not in awe of ND. I don’t particularly like the guy, but I believe he stays at UF. I sure would if I were in his position.

Lonesome Dove

July 16th, 2009
9:54 am

There are no real reasons for Urban Meyer to leave Florida, just as there were none for Steve Spurrier. Spurrier left because he thought he had nothing left to prove and wanted a fresh challenge. That would be the only legitimate reason for Meyer to leave. He does have an excellent recruiting base, so does Mark Richt. Both receive excellent salaries. Both are competitive, though their personalities are much different. If we want a coach to leave because he’s beating you, then you’re saying you dont want to be competitive, and you want someone to give it to you. Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, etc., are all fully capable of winning the SEC and playing even with or better than Florida. Steve Spurrier made every team in the SEC better. Meyer will do the same. Don’t be fearful of competition; embrace it. Name calling and hating is so immature. Unfortunately, these blogs enable those fans of all schools (probably none real alumni) the opportunity to display their ignorance and jealousy. Oh, and Tony, even though you’re a UGA graduate, as am I, I appreciate your even handed reporting of all schools. Those who think you are a homer really aren’t thinking.

Panhandle Nole

July 16th, 2009
9:54 am

If you aren’t a gator fan, then you might swallow the lines some gators feed about Spurrier moving on because he had done all he wanted to do. I believe he moved on because he was getting shoved out of gainesville. Winning wasn’t much fun anymore for some bull gators. They didn’t like Spurrier’s way of doing things and his abrasive manner behind the scenes. Spurrier’s own self inflated ego probably was the reason he took his trophies to Washington and ruined the Redskins. Suppier also was tired of the attitude that not winning the SEC and the national championship was failure.There are reasons fans from other schools called Steve, Steve Superior, and reasons why some gator fans are labeled they way they are labeled

Enjoy the ride gators, it’s the best feeling in the world for a football fan. That’s my take.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
9:57 am

TommyP,

1) He did say that, but I listened to that radio show and as I remember it was in passing. Something to the effect of “yeah, that’s my dream job, but….” He went on after the but for like a minute or two regarding why he didn’t and couldn’t take it, but obviously that doesn’t get any play. After the initial scare of the quote, most Gator fans listened to the interview and were satisfied with what they found. Good counter points on the OSU comparison, but I still don’t think being the man at Notre Dame carries as much weight. Of course, strictly my opinion. I think they’re in the automatic backlash zone a team like the Yankees or Cowboys are in. Getting attention isn’t always the same as prestige.

3) The comparison was only that they are both talented starting QB’s that are/were important to their teams/fan bases. :)

I seem to remember a lot of back and forth between Gator and Dawg fans in their freshman and sophomore campaigns. Regarding the “greatest” comments, in my mind I was thinking of “most talented” which is why I think Tebow is “one of”. I might be in the minority and drawing the ire of the Tebow pajamas crowd, but I think Percy Harvin is the most talented football player to ever wear the orange and blue. If “greatest” is a combo of most influential, important, etc., then I agree and obviously the nod goes to Tebow for GOAT (Gator-wise, it’s arguable on the national front).

5) He’s already one of the more recognizable coaches at Florida. While I agree with your facts, I don’t see them as a reason he would leave. My biased point of view sees it as making VP at a company and then taking another job to see if you could do it all over again from lower in the food chain (since admittedly UF had more going for it than ND, the climb was a little easier).

6) Similar to #5, while I agree with some of your points, I don’t see them as compelling reasons to go to ND and do it all over again. He woke up the UF program after the Zook years and got it back to the Spurrier level. Time will tell if he can have the consistent success that Spurrier did and overtake him, but honestly I can’t see how that will happen again in today’s SEC. Competition is too fierce.

You’re right, this is fun.

I’m now curious as to what Atlanta Gator and G8RGRAD’s takes on this will be. Those are two of my favorite UF posters.

RAMBLE ON!!!

July 16th, 2009
9:57 am

The Grinch

You mention me in every post, please drop your “man crush” on me.

May I suggest the Transgender Restrooms at your student center for a possible mate?

…the time has come to be gone.

PMC

July 16th, 2009
10:04 am

Yes, I do to an extent. ND has lost it’s luster and one day if there is an opportunity I’d be suprised if he didn’t consider returning to try and improve the program. That said, everything is better in Florida.

If he can keep finding QB’s (and I have no reason to suspect he won’t) he’s going to have equal or better talent to anyone. He can make 5 million a year if he wants it. As dominant as they have been, he can make himself into a modern legend… Really honestly, it’s wishful thinking that he’d just want to leave and rebuild a program… winning is fun and staying on top and winning is incredibly difficult too. He’s got a rare opportunity to be one of the all time greats at Florida.

southgadawg88

July 16th, 2009
10:05 am

…People seemed to get over Saban going to ALA pretty quick,the Petrino /Falcon disaster seems to have been forgotten already and Tommy T didn’t get all that much flak..so if Meyer did go to ND a few years from now he will get a pass too.

Okefenokee Dawg

July 16th, 2009
10:12 am

Who cares – just beat him and it won’t matter. Lame subject.

Ramblin Rick

July 16th, 2009
10:17 am

The Urban Legend ain’t going anywhere! Why would he leave Florida for that hellhole know as Notre Dam? Lousy weather, annoying fans and no talent to work with. I hope he stays at Florida and continues to destroy the mutts for years to come!

49-10
45-42

The Grinch

July 16th, 2009
10:17 am

To RAMBLE ON!!

Then be gone. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

The Grinch

July 16th, 2009
10:19 am

To RAMBLE ON

Sorry the man-crush comments bothered you so much. I guess it hit a little to close to home, but it was true. Go back and look at your previous posts. Seriously, probably 90% of them mention Paul Johnson or Roddy Jones. Geez, dude, get your own identity. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

ThursdayRon

July 16th, 2009
10:26 am

I don’t care about Urban Meyer. I’m ready for Tebow to graduate.

Josh

July 16th, 2009
10:26 am

If he wants a real challenge, he should go to a school that doesn’t throw tons of money at their football program. Money doesn’t guarantee success but it’s sure hard to succeed without it.

Atlanta Gator

July 16th, 2009
10:28 am

Here are the top 10 reasons why Urban Meyer isn’t leaving for Notre Dame any time soon—-

1. Finebaum is an Idiot.—-Paul Finebaum is routinely and regularly wrong.

2. The Benjamins.—-Meyer is making $3 million and change now. The university president, who was responsible for hiring him at Utah and Florida, has said that Meyer deserves to be the highest-paid coach in college football. That will happen after the 2009 season. It’s a question of $4 million and change or $5 million and change. Not many schools can offer that kind of cash, and then survive a bidding war with Florida.

3. Resources.—-On the record, the UAA has the 3rd highest Division I budget in the land ($90 million in 2009-2010). Off the record, UAA is projecting revenue of $102 million for the year. The UAA just made a $6 million donation to the university’s general fund. Florida is building a new $15 million lacrosse stadium entirely with private donations.

4. Notre Dame Ain’t What It Used to Be.—-How many national championship games has Notre Dame played in since 1990? How many national championships have the Irish won in that time? Answer: Zero. The Gators have played for 4 and won 3 MNCs in 20 years, and are favorites to play for a 5th one this year.

5. Recruiting.—-Notre Dame MUST chase talent nationally to be competitive. The state of Florida has the best high school recruiting base in the country, and the Gators can cherry-pick talent outside its home state and region.

6. Stick With What Brung Ya.—-Meyer’s ties to Notre Dame consist of being named for a pope and being the ND wide receivers coach for 5 seasons. He was also and assistant at Ohio State, Illinois State, Colorado State, before being head coach at Bowling Green and Utah. He’s been the head coach of the Gators for 4 seasons, and won 2 BCS titles and 2 SEC championships. Hmm.

7. Support.—-The University of Florida has the best athletic director in the country. Period. Meyer knows that, and knows it makes him a better coach by taking much of the administrative responsibility off of his back. Be the coach, not a bureaucrat.

8. Family.—-Meyer’s youngest son does not graduate from Gainesville High School for another 6 years.

9. Florida’s Bear Bryant.—-Lightning in a bottle is tough to catch once, let alone twice at two different schools. Ask Steve Spurrier—-Urban Meyer already has.

10. Schadenfreude.—-Wishful thinking by rival fans does not make it so.

Not Disappointed

July 16th, 2009
10:32 am

Urban Meyer without a doubt can Coach and brings excitement to the game of College Football. I recall, when he first came to Florida and all the complaining by a few fans. “Would his type of offense work in the SEC?”
I believe Urban Meyer will be in Florida for a long time. He has a great back-up quarterback and loads of quality Atheletes for picking. “Like picking Fruit.” He’s in FLorida, “Do not get it TwIsTed!” UGA and Ga Tech goes there for players.

He will be there for a long time to come, which is sad for my brother, being a die hard dog fan.

“Ramblin Wreck!”

steve

July 16th, 2009
10:32 am

If you can’t beat them…hope they dissappear. ROLL RIDE.

TS

July 16th, 2009
10:38 am

Change jobs in this economy? I don’t think so!

I’m glad he put this to rest. The only thing people that FL has owned these past few years can say is, “wait until Urban goes to ND.” It ain’t happenin’. “Ever.”

DamnGoodDawg

July 16th, 2009
10:42 am

When Saint Timothy is gone, Fl will still be the top team in the SEC. But they will be more vulnerable…whatever that’s worth. Tibow is the difference at Florida right now…not Urban Crier. That said, My boy Richt will never be considered a great coach until he beats Florida regularly (at least 50%) and wins a National Championship. I see neither in the near future.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 16th, 2009
10:42 am

I think Meyer looks at coaches like Spurrier and Holtz and says to himself “dammit I don’t want to end up coaching South Carolina in my old age”. Obivously he has to give the definititive statement for recruiting purposes just in case Wei$$ has a break out year and wins 8 or 9 games and Notre Dame decides to re-up his contract because he beat all four service academies plus the Coast Guard. Just like Saban didn’t want to interrupt his great recruiting class while he was head coach at the Dolphins.

baconboy

July 16th, 2009
10:45 am

Tony, what is interesting from your column is how carefully you avoid using Finebaum’s name and the substance of his article. There’s a difference between a columnist speculating about why someone might leave (as many of the people here in the com boxes are doing) and flat out calling a man a liar based only on speculation and no real facts. As a journalist, Tony, I’m wish you hadn’t sidestepped the ethical implications of the story on Finebaum’s side and instead only focused on Urban. Do you think that Finebaum crossed a line? Would you call a coach a liar based only on speculation about what might happen in the future?

Atlanta Gator

July 16th, 2009
10:46 am

gdawg~zoo—-” . . . all four service academies plus the Coast Guard.” (?)

Gen Neyland

July 16th, 2009
10:51 am

He’ll have to keep the program clean, avoid the dreaded scandals and keep the love alive in the Bog…

Jeff Sanchez

July 16th, 2009
10:51 am

This is a long term process (building a football program). I always say there are only about eight or 10 really good football programs where year in and year out they win.”
Source: Urban Meyer Press Conference, November 13, 2002

“We are nowhere near what we can do here. That’s what’s driving me right now. Everybody’s worried about those other places; nothing’s going on.”
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

“I was contacted by one, but I’m not interested. I love it here. We have a lot of work to do. That’s the bottom line.”
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

“With recruits, that’s been for two years, even before we won. [They say,] ‘that guy’s not going to be there very long’; that’s silly … The future is fantastic here … I’m proud to be the football coach here. Once they get to know me, know my family, know how important it is to have continuity, my kids going to school somewhere.”
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

“I think you all but guarantee that you are one of the top two, three teams in the league every year if you get that [new athletic facility] here. I feel so strong about the academics, about the community, the environment, about the people. It’s the last piece; it’s a significant piece.”
Source: Bowling Green Sentinel, December 6, 2002

“In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: ‘I thought we were your family.’ Bowling Green’s players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts.”
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2002

“Notre Dame is my dream job.”
Source: Memory, January 1, 2003

“It [leaving Bowling Green] was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. It was devastating. I didn’t realize — and maybe I wasn’t thinking clearly — but I thought it was going to be one of those things where you shake hands, give a big hug and say ‘good luck.’”
Source: Deseret News, October 5, 2004

“First of all, I love it here. But I’m second fiddle. My family is No. 1, and they love it here. As long as we’re filling the stadium, as long as we’re continuing to grow as a program and as long as I feel these student-athletes are getting the best opportunity to be a top 25 program — which I think it is — I’m going to be the coach here.”
Source: Deseret News, October 30, 2004

“I plan on coaching here for a long time.”
Source: Deseret News, November 15, 2004

“Meyer told the New York Times last week, ‘I’m chicken. It would be excruciating to leave. When I left Bowling Green, it was the worst three months.’”
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

“Wrote Mike Sorenson, ‘It’s been well-documented that Meyer’s wife, Shelley, was a big factor in Meyer taking the Utah job. She wanted to move back to the West because she enjoyed the family’s time in Colorado when he was an assistant at Colorado State. Shelley and the kids seem to love the outdoor lifestyle, and she has told friends and neighbors that they aren’t going anywhere.’”
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

“Mike Sorenson wrote, ‘Some folks may question his loyalty because he left Bowling Green after just two years. But Meyer has said, the six months after that was one of the hardest times of his life, because he felt so bad for leaving. Does he really want to go through that again just two years later?’ [um, yes.]”
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

“I plan on coaching at Utah next year. There’s been no contact made. Period. It’s almost comical. We’re playing the biggest game in the history of the school and we’re talking about that. That’s nothing to do with nothing. [Shelley Meyer served her employer 2-weeks notice the next day.]”
Source: Deseret News, November 17, 2004

“Wrote Antony A Engligh, “Shelley will be heavily involved in Meyer’s next move. ‘She’s a coach’s wife, that’s what she does for a living,’ Bud Meyer said. ‘It’s a big job. It’s a job that she (wants) to be informed, but she does a very good job.’””
Source: St. Petersburg Times, November 17, 2004

“There’s been no contact and I really don’t anticipate any. I’m certainly not looking for a job. I love where I’m coaching.”
Source: Deseret News, November 18, 2004

“When asked by a young boy if he was going to be the coach next year, Urban replied very directly, ‘I plan on being the coach at the University of Utah next year.’”
Source: Urban Meyer Coach’s Show, November 18, 2004

“As long as I’m married, I’ll be the coach at Utah. [exact date unknown, source is a local sports show]”
Source: Memory, November 20, 2004

“Though Meyer is frequently mentioned as a candidate for more lucurative coaching jobs, he denies any contact has been made. ‘I’m not out looking, so if someone’s waiting for me to pick up the phone it’s not going to happen,’ said Meyer. And there’s little chance of that over the next four days. Meyer plans to turn his telephone off over the holiday break while he spends lost time with his family. He isn’t expecting a lot of calls, anyhow. Word is out that he loves Utah, Meyer explained, and schools are funny about that. Despite speculation to the contrary, including a Florida fan-based Web site that reported a deal with Meyer has already been reached, the coach insists he represents himself. And that no talks have taken place. ‘I don’t have an agent. People are trying to get me to have one, but I’m just not comfortable with that kind of stuff,’ said Meyer. ‘I’m coaching my team and taking care of my family.’”
Source: Deseret News, November 24, 2004

“[When asked about Florida:] No. I have no real comment. All I keep saying is I plan on being the coach here at Utah.”
Source: Deseret News, November 30, 2004

” It’s not about prestige and it’s certainly not about money. In today’s climate, you don’t have time to build a program. Too many coaches are let go before they can build a program.”
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004

“I’m going to a place where I think we can really win, because no good can come of losing. Losing is never good.”
Source: Deseret News, December 2, 2004

“I’m the head coach at Utah. If for some reason I’m not, I still anticipate coaching in the bowl game.”
Source: Deseret News, December 3, 2004

“This was a family decision. University of Florida has been in the mix since the day, uh [pause] after our rival game. … There was no intention to hurt a great university [Notre Dame], including this university [Utah the afterthought].”
Source: ESPN SportsCenter, December 4, 2004

“Recruiting at Utah doesn’t start ’till January. That’s when these kids that wanted to go to USC and UCLA find out they won’t be and then the Utes get them.”
Source: Press Conference, December 4, 2004

“I didn’t want to put Utah into disarray. I had to do this now to protect Utah.”
Source: KUTV News, December 4, 2004

“I am certainly excited about the opportunity to be the head coach at the University of Florida. There were a lot of factors that went into this decision that our entire family had to consider. The opportunity to compete at the highest level at one of the nation’s most-respected academic institutions is something that was attractive for us.”
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

“The quality of recruits within the state of Florida and the Southeast Region offers a tremendous recruiting base for us.”
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

“There’s no such thing as luck, there’s a big word called investment. If there was luck, why work as hard as we do. I’ve never been involved in a game where the most invested team lost.”
Source: GatorZone.com, December 4, 2004

“[Referring to Florida:] This is a place you can put your feet down hopefully for a long time.”
Source: ESPN, December 7, 2004

“I have no aspirations to coach in the NFL None whatsoever. It’s all about the pageantry and tradition of college football, which in my opinion is second to none.”
Source: ESPN, December 7, 2004

“This is a place you can put your feet down for a long time. It’s over [moving every 2 years]. I’m not doing this again.”
Source: GatorSports.com, December 8, 2004

“If he goes to the NFL, you can call me a liar,” his wife, Shelley, said. “That’s not happening.”
Source: GatorSports.com, December 8, 2004

“In the words of any Bowling Green football player today: ‘I thought we were your family.’ Bowling Green’s players are understandably angry at Meyer for leaving. Every day he would preach team loyalty. Meyer carried his we-are-family concept to the extreme, even bunking in the same dorm with the Falcons during preseason workouts.”
Source: Toledo Blade, December 13, 2004

“I’m not going to Notre Dame. Ever.”
Source: Pat Dooley, It’s Always Sunny in Gainesville, July 13, 2009

Miles

July 16th, 2009
10:51 am

Notre Dame has always had to recruit nationally as opposed to regionally. Why, then, is it now that Notre Dame (with its tradition, history, etc.) can’t recruit top athletes? The entire thing seems very strange to me. Some people have made reference to their academic standards. Is this true?

BYRON MCCORKLE

July 16th, 2009
10:52 am

BEFORE URBAN MEYER GOES TO NOTRE DAME HE WOULD COACH AT OHIO STATE, OHIO PERSON BORN & RAISED (ASHTABULA) COACH AS ASSISTANCE AT OSU, CINCINNATI, AND HIGH SCHOOL CONNECTIONS TO OHIO, COACH AT BOWLING GREEN, AND I BELIEVE HAS A RELATIVE RELATIONSHIP IN FAMILY TO EARL BRUCE (OLE 9-3 EARLE) SO THAT IS MORE OF A POSSIBILITY THAN NOTRE DAME. HOWEVER AS SAID IN COLUMN WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE FLORIDA FOR NOTRE DAME IT RECRUIT BASE IS NEXT TO NOTHING NOW, AS OPPOSED TO FLORIDA OR OHIO

Leon "Pooch-Kick" Trotsky

July 16th, 2009
10:56 am

Jeff Sanchez,

That’s like reading War & Peace

bull-gator

July 16th, 2009
10:56 am

If he ever leaves UF it will be to the NFL to run his spread offense. The NFL will be running variations of it over the next few years and Meyer will be there to perfect it into a Super Bowl win. I suspect if he wins a 3rd or 4th BCS Championship over the next 3-5 years you can color him gone…like to Miami, Tampa Bay or Jacksonville.

READY

July 16th, 2009
10:56 am

Please leave before CMR moves the game out of Jacksonville, college’s greatest venue.

G8R GRAD

July 16th, 2009
10:58 am

It seems to me that if we are going to lose Coach Meyer to anyone it’s going to be the NFL. For the same reasons SOS left. Like Spurrier Meyer has been successful in the collegiate ranks and at some point may see the pros as the logical next step.
Think about it, the “Wildcat” offense has enjoyed significant popularity of recent in the NFL because of its theoretical offensive advantage (eliminating the “extra” defender freed up after a QB executes the play)), so the logical next step in that progression is to install a full-blown spread offense. Who better to ask to do so but one of the biggest proponents of it. Add to that the apparent trend of many of the QB’s being recruited these days are the run/pass progeny of Tim Tebow.
If UM goes anywhere, my money’s on the pros.
His success there is anybody’s guess (see SOS), but IMHO, it’s the strongest possibility.

HH

July 16th, 2009
10:59 am

Urban can hang around UF as long as he wants. The other schools who constantly whine about Urban’s hanging around, and I can think of one in particular, should quit worrying about it and have guts enough to go out and find and hire a coach who can compete with him. So far, I don’t see any of them making any moves to do it. If they are all satisfied about being #2 in the East or runner-up in the SEC, then they should shut up. For your own sake, don’t let your attachment to a particular coach because he’s “this or that” kind of guy stop you. There’s some coach out there coaching at some level of college football right now who has the “smarts and the drive” to compete with Urban and not blink. All you have to do is get up off your a__ and go out there and find him. But if your too damn happy with ten victories a year, or whatever, to make any effort, then simply shut up. You have the money; at least one of you does. Otherwise quit whining.

Huh?

July 16th, 2009
10:59 am

If I’m not mistaken Jeff Sanchez just laid the smack down. Please confirm.

TideRules

July 16th, 2009
11:06 am

After about 10 more years he may leave, after winning 3-4 more national titles, but he’s not leaving anytime soon, especially since ND will not pay $4-5 mil per year that Florida will. Plus, he gets tons of endorsement cash from all these florida corporations and can recruit a ton of talent within a few hours of campus. He’s got the dream job now, just like Saban at Bama.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 16th, 2009
11:06 am

Atl Gator, I should have said three plus the Merchant Marines and the Coast Guard. My bad.

Anybody questioning the ability for ND to match any offers monetarily is just plain crazy. The other factors I will give you but the jack would be no problem for ND. Recruiting the same way with a top notch coach like Meyer would be no problem.

IRISH25

July 16th, 2009
11:07 am

WE DON’T WANT HIM!!!!

reservoirDAWG

July 16th, 2009
11:10 am

I don’t know what the future holds, but he’d be a fool to leave UF for ND.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
11:14 am

Jeff Sanchez,

Although long, that’s a very good post. Can’t say that I’ve seen many of those quotes before. Obviously nothing to argue there as that is what he said at those different points in his life/career. My first thought is things change as well as people change their minds/feelings, we just don’t have to do it in the paper, on radio, or TV so there’s no record of our flip-flopping. I’d also like to think the circumstances at each school were different, but in all honesty, something might look more attractive than UF in the future. I don’t think it’s ND, but as always I could be wrong. It does seem like he regretted leaving Bowling Green which is an interesting insight, but all in all, as to the question originally posed, I do believe him in that he’s not leaving to go coach at ND. Doesn’t mean he won’t leave though.

dap01

July 16th, 2009
11:14 am

Who cares? But seriously, would you leave the SEC and Florida to go to Notre Dame? ND’s big games are against Navy. I don’t think so.

ND is not one of the big schools anymore. They are as stale as the contract that they signed with NBC. Now neither NBC or ND or revelant.

Atlanta Gator

July 16th, 2009
11:16 am

Jeff Sanchez—-Sorry that NFL opportunity with Detroit didn’t work out for you, but there is life after football, right?

Quite a list of quotes you have there. You have either spent a lot of time or found the mother load on someone else’s column. In any event, the repetitive weight of the ten years of Urban Meyer quotes does not change the simple facts:

1. In 2002, Utah was a better job than Bowling Green.

2. In 2004, Florida was a better job than Utah.

3. In 2009, Notre Dame is not a better job than Florida.

I would never begrudge anyone the opportunity to accept a better job, for more pay, better working conditions, or new and greater professional challenges. But, on that basis, I don’t see Urban Meyer leaving any time soon. Only the challenge of rebuilding yesteryear’s dynasty could possibly offer any attraction . . .

Please feel free to offer up some more quotes pertinent to these facts.

Got 12?

July 16th, 2009
11:17 am

If ND fires Weiss after this season, UM will not take the job for two reasons:

1. He wants to prove that his system is what wins championships, not just one player
2. His son is too young to uproot

If ND or Ohio St. open up a couple of years down the road, and he’s gone. In his biography, UM states that ND is his dream job. Also in the book, he states that ND, Ohio St and Mich are jobs he would take regardless of what his wife has to say about it.

the Future

July 16th, 2009
11:17 am

i don’t think he’s going anywhere.wishfull thinking dawg fans.i hope he stays another 10 or 20 years.Gators Own the Dawgs and thats a fact.

Ramblinwreck1378

July 16th, 2009
11:18 am

God I love the Georgia fans on here that are firmly stating that he is leaving at the end of the year, and there’s no shot of him coming back.. Blah Blah Blah.

Personally, I have no idea if the guy is gone at the end of this year, next year, or this decade. But what I do know is that Georgia fans should really stop trying to talk themselves into thinking he’s leaving. Just get better and beat him more than once. I mean seriously, man up and stop hoping he’s going to run away so you don’t have to deal with him. You sound like a bunch of sissys.

gatorman770

July 16th, 2009
11:19 am

WhiningRicht and the rest of the lowlifescumbag coaches that spread the lies that “Urban is leaving the Gators” to sway recruits are the one’s that cause this subject to keep coming up.
WhiningRicht will leave the curgawgs and return to Florida State loooooong before Urban leaves the Gators!

Ramblinwreck1378

July 16th, 2009
11:20 am

And Irish, please tell me. If you don’t want Urban Meyer, then who do you want? Because it damn sure isn’t Charlie Weis. That fat sack of crap couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag. Notre Dame is a non-factor.

Joey

July 16th, 2009
11:20 am

I am one Dawg fan who doesn’t despise Meyer. I think a lot of us would trade Richt for Myer is we had the chance. They are both great recruiters, but the comparisons end there. Myer doesn’t tolerate mediocrity in his assistants (Richt does), is a great sideline coach (Richt is not), and when he has the talent and gets in the big game, he seals the deal. He has made UF the biggest name in college football and probably the only thing that could lure him away is the NFL. Bill Belichick visits two college head coaches during the off-season to lear their new offensive and defensive schemes. Saban and Meyer. No, he doesn’t visit Athens…

[...] Houston Nutt and Bobby Petrino just missed the cut.Tony Barnhart — also of The AJC — believes Florida’s Meyer when he says he’s staying put in Gainesville.  (I do, too… where’s he gonna find a better job?)New Georgia assistant [...]

Atlanta Gator

July 16th, 2009
11:22 am

Charlotte Gator—-Regarding Bowling Green . . . we all remember our first love, but that doesn’t mean we all married our high school sweetheart.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 16th, 2009
11:24 am

Just to put it on the record, this Georgia fan doesn’t care if Meyer stays or goes. Wishing that he leaves so that we might be able to beat Florida IS NOT the way to go about turning this series around in our favor again. Putting more points on the scoreboard is. Fielding a team that never lets up for 60 minutes is.

G8R GRAD

July 16th, 2009
11:32 am

Joey:
With all the speculation as to where/what position Tebow would play in the NFL, don’t you think Coach Belichick would LOVE to see Tim passed over as a QB for a TE or HB position by other teams and grab him for the Pats’ and install a spread offense hybrid there?
With the injury to his QB last year, NE was considerably hamstrung.
What better hedge against a repeat of that nightmare than to rotate a Tebow in and capitalize on the added threat of a Wildcat offense with a true throwing running back?

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
11:36 am

Atlanta Gator,

Good point. I really wish I had some witty comeback like “Carla was the prom queen” like Cage in The Rock, but sadly I do not.

Ramblin Rick

July 16th, 2009
11:37 am

49-10

Please confirm ASAP

OldRat

July 16th, 2009
11:38 am

“Class of 98″, lay off that Paul Johnson stuff. You are just concerned that he might be able to steal some speed out of the state of Florida, if his success continues at The North Avenue School For Boys.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 16th, 2009
11:39 am

G8R GRAD, IMO the reason that most likely won’t happen is because of the pounding that Tebow would take. He is one tough dude who can receive a hit as well as he can give one but at that level he would not last very long in the league. In college, some guys hit hard, in the NFL they all hit hard.

GSUEAGLE98

July 16th, 2009
11:48 am

I wish Dawg fans would stop wishing Urban Meyer and Tebow would leave. Please!!!!!! If you want to be the best, beat the best. It has been done before.
Go Eagles!!!!!!! Go Dawgs!!!!!!!

Atlanta Gator

July 16th, 2009
11:50 am

Charlotte Gator—-One caveat: Unless you’re the Evil Genius, and your wife ‘Jeri was the homecoming queen.” The Rock ain’t got nothin’ on the Evil Genius. LOL

G8R GRAD

July 16th, 2009
11:50 am

Gdawg:
Precisely the point of the Wildcat offense’s improvement by a true throwing rinning back:
The “extra” defender must commit to covering the run, or the pass (but can’t obviously do both) freeing the playmaker to enjoy blocking protection (presumably of all run defenders) when running or simply dump the ball upfield or in the flats before the pass coverage can unload on him.

Pope Pius Gator I

July 16th, 2009
11:50 am

“It’s not going to happen.”

(And, yes, I am speaking ex cathedra.)

bamabelle in ga

July 16th, 2009
11:57 am

To rocksteadyfreddie,
you ask “in all honesty, what do a bunch of national titles won before 1950 have to do with winning football games and landing bigtime recruits in 2009?” (referring to Notre Dame’s tradition)…
Change the date you refer to, to 1993 and I’ll answer that question. The players at Alabama are aware of and very proud of our history just as ND players most certainly are. You are wrong that recruits don’t care about NC history. Ask our recruits. They know. They care. There is a plan in place to revisit that history SOON! It’s only the teams that don’t have strong championship histories that make the sour grapes comment that you made. Given the opportunity to have a “history” or not, I think you’d choose to have.

the Future

July 16th, 2009
11:58 am

tebow ia a great player. and turns into super man when he plays the dawgs.

His Eminance

July 16th, 2009
12:01 pm

Pope Pius Gator I!

Now THAT’S funny. I don’t care who ya are!

Ute fan In Georgia

July 16th, 2009
12:01 pm

As a Ute fan living here in Georgia, I have heard this before, and I think Urban Meyer is the biggest lying two faced snake out there. I wouldn’t be surprised if he were to leave Florida with Tebow.

Jeff Sanchez

July 16th, 2009
12:03 pm

In the interest of full disclosure, I got that list of Meyer quotes from commenter “Dawg in Florida” on the UGA blog “Get the Picture” (required daily reading for Dawg fans)

http://www.blutarsky.wordpress.com

Denver Dog

July 16th, 2009
12:03 pm

Urban Meyer says he isn’t going anywhere, why should he? If ND wants to get him, they will have to get his interest first, which they don’t have. Whoever the fools are that say they wish he would leave, are just that fools. I hope he stays for as long as he wants. UGA is competitive with UF, and if that is not good enough for everyone then tough! He is one heck of a coach, and UGA gets’ to play against his team every year. The fun thing about college football is that it changes every year, there are no franchise players, no long term contracts, just a few years to get the most out of the players. UM does that, and it is a credit to him and his program.

I am as big a UGA fan as there is, and I hate losing to UF as we have the last few years (20). If you want to win the crown, you have to beat the champ. Whether we like it or not, at least right now, UM and UF are the champs. Whether we like it or not, Tim Tebow is one heck of a player, motivator, and a shining example for all of college sports. Wouldn’t it be nice to see more like him than like OJ, or Ray L.

Wish them the best, and if ND offers him something he wants, wish him the best then. Right now, let’s hope we concentrate on OK State and all the game that follow.

Go Dawgs

RxDawg

July 16th, 2009
12:05 pm

He’s not going to Notre Name. I don’t want him gone as a dawg fan. I want to beat him fair and square. We’ve done it before, we can do it again. If Urban goes anywhere it’l be the NFL. Thats it.

BCS Champs Again

July 16th, 2009
12:07 pm

Of course we believe him…just like I believed Saban when he said he was not going leave the Dolphins to go coach a bama….

missed it

July 16th, 2009
12:07 pm

Hey got 12 he could care less about “his system” he wants to win championships and he has already proven he can do that TWICE and Tebow wasn’t but a role player in 2006.

Besides he preaches defense and special teams more than offense and those 2 were more of a factor in his 2 titles than his “system” was.

Got 12 but nothing in quite a while....

July 16th, 2009
12:10 pm

He is staying…..

the Future

July 16th, 2009
12:11 pm

Nice post Denver Dawg well said.

G8R GRAD

July 16th, 2009
12:13 pm

Ute fan:

A scary , but plausble, prospect.

warhorse

July 16th, 2009
12:17 pm

Urban still has something to prove at Florida. He must apply the annual Jacksonville beatdown for a few more years in order to equal the Spurs as the hated foe of the poodles. All these wishful dreamers from dawgland (most of whom probably have never been to any state north of Tennessee) who claim he is going to the Dome will just have one more bit of vitriol to swallow.

Urban owns the poodles and will for a long time to come. Get accustomed to it and enjoy your punishment.

Colorado Dawg

July 16th, 2009
12:21 pm

I wanted to post a little information about Tony that my fellow bloggers might enjoy knowing. Tony is going to South Bend, Indiana this week-end to accept the 2009 Bert McGrane Award which is symbolic of being inducted into the Football Writers Association Hall of Fame. Regardless of whether you agree with Tony on some issues, he should be congratulated on winning this award. To be inducted into the Football Writers Hall of Fame on the same week-end that some outstanding players and coaches are being inducted in the College Football Hall of Fame is impressive. Way to go Tony and thank you for writing about the best sport in God’s country.

Tide4u2c

July 16th, 2009
12:35 pm

I hope Urban Meyer does’nt leave Florida because I like the SEC to be a tough conference and have great coaches coaching in the conference but I have a feeling he would leave for Notre Dame if the timing was right.In his book he said it was his dream job.

Now as long as he is at Florida he wants to do well there so he is going to deny it.He does not want it effecting recruiting just in case the timing,etc is not right and he can’t go for some reason.

There are Notre Dame fans that secretly hope Weiss loses again this year again so they can fire him and hire Urban Meyer.It is talked about amongst Notre Dame fans they would love for Urban Meyer to come to Notre Dame and they talk about it.

Now there is no way of knowing for sure what he will do or what will happen but I tend to think he would leave if the situation was right, does’nt mean I would like it though.

athensdawg

July 16th, 2009
12:46 pm

who cares!!!!!

dawg fans, why does this worry or bother you? if we take care of business, it won’t matter who the freaking coach of the gators is. (as we proved during our dominance in the Dooley era.)

i hope urban leaves (whine.) urban is a cryer (whine) urban is a lyer (whine.)

BEAT FREAKIN URBAN ON THE FIELD AND IT ALL DOESN’T MATTER.

of course, after being called out in the print media by Urban….the mighty Fighting Staffords went down and showed what they were made of last year. That first hit that Knowshown took told me that if we didn’t stand up, this game was over….and look what happened…..

until we start playing hard nosed smack em in the mouth football, UGA will never regain dominance in the series…..no matter who is coaching.

i hope he stays. it makes the sec better. in fact, i hope every great coach eventually comes to the sec, so that we can warm up by beating the crap out of each other, and then destroy whomever the computers deem “worthy” enough to play an SEC team for the national championship.

TS

July 16th, 2009
12:48 pm

I don’t care what he said in his book about Notre Dame being his dream job. I used to want to be a fireman but that is not what I grew up to be. Notre Dame would not be a job change it would be a career change. Goodbye recruiting, support from administration, 65 degree highs in January, and any semblance of the facilities and support he has at UF.

Tide4u2c

July 16th, 2009
12:57 pm

Don’t think that Notre Dame could’nt recruit well if Urban Meyer did go there.You would see a media frenzy by Notre Dame fans probably similar to when Saban came to Alabama.Weiss has recruited well there which is even more reason why Notre Dame fans are getting tired of him.Again it is not my hope that Urban Meyer leaves Florida.

POAD the CHOADE

July 16th, 2009
1:04 pm

Ramblin Rick,

I know it seems like a dream because it happens so rarely, but GT actually beat UGA last year. You can stop hiding behind UF now.

It is kinda like all the UGA fans reminding you of 38-3, pathetic really!

TS

July 16th, 2009
1:06 pm

I hear you but these 17 year old kids running a 4.35 fourty yard dash in Gainesville’s backyard aren’t familiar with ND. When was the last marquee match-up ND had? Navy? When you flip on the tube on Saturday nights in the South you see what college football is all about.

I know I look at this thing through orange-and-blue glasses but I just don’t see ND being the job he would leave for.

Got 12?

July 16th, 2009
1:13 pm

Missed It,

If he could care less about his system, he would have used a pro-style offense when Leak was his primary quarterback. He won the championship on defense so, if the system didn’t matter, he should have had no problem with coaching to Leak’s strengths.

He hears all the talk that Tebow is why he won last year. (Again, it was the defense with assistance from Harvin and Tebow.) As do most successful people, he loves a challenge and would like to prove that it wasn’t all Tebow.

Ali Akbar Allah

July 16th, 2009
1:14 pm

“Everybody’s worried about those other places; nothings going on,” Meyer told the media last week in his final media gathering of the season. “I was contacted by one, but I’m not interested. I love it here. We have a lot of work to do. That’s the bottom line. The future is fantastic here . . . I’m proud to be the football coach here.”

Urban Meyer December, 2002 after being asked if he was leaving Bowling Green for Utah

Wally Gator

July 16th, 2009
1:21 pm

Tony’s question was, “Do you believe what he says?”

I do not believe any coach who is continually put into a corner to provide absolute statements regarding the hypothetical. Tony’s statement that if he did go to ND after saying he wouldn’t would create an unbelievable media backlash is certainly true but consider what the media frenzy be if he left the door open now by saying he would consider ND if offered?

Coaches say what they have to say to keep everyone happy until such time as they have an absolute offer and subsequently have an actual decision to make. Only then will they know what they are going to do. Most anybody would welcome all options available for their career.

He is smart to play it this way and no, I don’t necessarily believe him.

Me

July 16th, 2009
1:21 pm

Tony, this article is precisely why you are MR COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Not MR GEORGIA FOOTBALL as many of you readers would like. It is why you are the most read, the most quoted and the most respected football journalist in the South, if not the entire country. I don’t always agree with what you write but I always see your logic behind it. Thank you and please continue to use that logic and reason along with no “bull” non biased thinking in your future articles. I, along with millions, will continue to read.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
1:22 pm

TS,

Completely agree. The only way he goes to ND is to rebuild and start from the bottom again. Looking at the arc of his career, I don’t think that’s how he operates. In my opinion, he seems to step up to schools with more advantages than his prior stop. Right now, the only school I see like that is USC. USC has all the advantages of Florida (recruiting, appeal, notoriety, etc.) without the biggest problem at UF, the rest of the SEC. If he wants to coast, then the USC job allows that, but if he wants to compete and be challenged at all times, then nothing gets better than life in the SEC.

rx-dawg

July 16th, 2009
1:24 pm

I don’t want him to leave….I think the rivalry is starting to heat up. But, that said, if I was supremely confident in my abilities as a coach, and had no particular ties to another large university, I would want (in no order) either ND, Alabama, Michigan or USC head coaching jobs. They are hands down the schools with the most history behind them. If you take one of those schools to the top, you become a legend in the game. Meyer could get there with a lot of years at Florida, but he could get there with much less at one of those schools. Why do we still talk about Rockne, Parseghian, Leahy, Bryant, Frank Thomas, Yost, Schembechler, McKay,Carroll. Why do you think Bama’s resurgence last year was so covered? Florida is a great job in a loaded state, but they lack the history, notoriety and fanbase (sometimes hidden) of the even bigger programs. Win at Florida and you are a great coach…win at ND and you become the game, not just part of it.

Todd

July 16th, 2009
1:25 pm

as a Ga. fan do I really give a crap if Urban Myer goes to Notre Dame or not. Could be the most overrated thing going in the SEC.

let’s talk about how great he is over an 8 yr. span at UF.

the guy is as lucky as Vince Dooley when it came to inheritence. Dooley got Herschel, went 6-5 in 1979, Myer inherits Tebow and Zook’s defense, gets over after the crying episode at LSU and 9-4 or whatever FL posted the year before Tebow showed up.

Myer is a great fit at FL and knows what he’s doing, no doubt, but come on, let’s check in on him over an 8yr span.

Sanford Drive

July 16th, 2009
1:28 pm

Urban isn’t going anywhere. Why would he? He’s building a dynasty there. It would be stupid for him to leave. And if you think he’s leaving anytime soon, congratulations, you’re an idiot.

Otto

July 16th, 2009
1:35 pm

I have read the quote and as a whole Urban handled job changes better than Saban. Even if Urban leaves, which I believe he won’t, it is his choice and right.

Do you think the school will stick by him if the program starts to slide? No the days of coaches staying around 25 years and having down turns is gone. Fulmer is an example. The school are in it for their best interest as are the coaches. IMO ND offers nothing over UF.

Rowdy Roddy Piper

July 16th, 2009
1:40 pm

Urban will be gone to ND after this year, if Weiss doesn’t pull his panties up and produce wins!! UF will not be as good after Tebow leaves. He is a winner, and they only come around ever so often.

To bamabelchnGA…AAHHHH SHUTAAUUPPP!!

TS

July 16th, 2009
1:41 pm

CharGator– I would take that scenrio for Meyer over ND. Much more of a lateral move and a program that wouldn’t need rebuilding. The only thing that comes to mind is why would he want to move out of a district represented by Corrine Brown?

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
1:42 pm

Todd,

Not entirely accurate. Tebow was not inherited, he was Myer’s first recruit. He had a partial recruiting season in 2004 and the first full one in 2005 when Tebow, Harvin, Spikes came along, all Meyer guys.

True he inherited a talented defense, but he made something of those players. Many on offense and defense were there prior to Meyer, but Zook didn’t get as much out of them. Only Reggie Nelson, Everett, C. Ingram, and Siler were the inherited stars (full credit to Zook). Jarvis Moss and Derrick Harvey were there but hadn’t done anything up until that point (I can give Zook half credit on those). Stephen Harris and Joe Cohen (starting DT’s), Dallas Baker (starting WR), Deshawn Wynn (starting RB), Brian Crum (starting LB), and Reggie Lewis (starting CB) were all either jokes or underachievers prior to Meyer. He also brought Ryan Smith (the other starting CB from Utah).

Saying Meyer is lucky is not an honest assessment. Checking back on him in 8 yrs. is something I’d love to take you up on. The first 4 years have been great and the next 4 are set up to give him a chance at continued success. Maybe not 2 or 3 more NC’s but that’s OK, right now he’s on par with USC who hasn’t had a title in a few years but is still considered to be at the top.

Gator Growl

July 16th, 2009
1:44 pm

Despite the wishful or misguided thinking of many rival fans as well as some select rival media members with an agenda(see Paul Finebaum), Urban Meyer is going nowhere soon. I don’t know how much more definitive and clear he can make it. Other than a lie detector test or being waterboarded what else can he say to make it more direct?? Most of the rival fans still insisting he’s leaving have a very apparent agenda…to propagate the rumor and keep it alive so that eventually it hurts Florida recruiting and somehow diminishes the National Championships it has won and therefor hurt its potential for future accomplishments. Not gonna happen. I am not surprised that this would finally come to a head and that someone in Alabama would be pointing the biggest finger, after all when it comes to the evidence of a coach lying thru his teeth, they have Exibit A sitting right there in Tuscaloosa.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
1:46 pm

Sorry. I’m an idiot. Left out Chris Leak.

Gator Mike

July 16th, 2009
1:47 pm

It is good to see that everyone is getting fired up. As a Gator, I am a huge Urban Meyer fan. I also believe it is equally important that the Dawgs support Mark Richt who is also an outstanding coach. The same goes for the Bama fans and all of the other SEC schools – even UT with their new coach.
Injuries can ruin a team. Look what happened to UGA last year. Before the season started, they mirrored what everyone is saying about UF this year. We should all remember that SEC Football is great because of the competition we share while we cheer for a bunch of very young guys. Each school in the SEC is academically superb in many, but not all, fields. The Gators are on top now, and I hope they are there at the end of the year. UF has a bulls eye on their helmets as did the Dawgs last year.
We will enjoy watching it all play out this fall in the great SEC.
Go Gators!

Tide4u2c

July 16th, 2009
1:47 pm

There are no guarantess with any coach.

As a Alabama fan we hear rumors all the time about Saban leaving Alabama in a few years,as a matter of fact according to some he should’ve already been gone(Auburn fans are the worst).

Now as a Alabama fan I want Saban to stay and see very little reason why he would leave especially at his age.I believe Saban when he says “Alabama is his last stop until he retires to his lakehouse in Georgia” but deep down I know there are no guarantees with any coach all you can do is enjoy it and hope for the best.

And if Weiss is fired Notre Dame will probably come after Saban too if they could’nt get Urban Meyer,of course I don’t think Saban would go,but it is Notre Dame one of only a few places I might could see as a potential threat.Saban has only moved up in his job changes and most anybody could see reasons why it was a good move.

Saban is building a powerhouse team in Tuscaloosa,you can tell he wants to win a NC (maybe even a few) then probably retire to his lakehouse in Georgia and go out on top.Going to Notre Dame would set him back and at his age I just could’nt see it.

Urban Meyer is younger though. Again not my hope Urban Meyer leaves Florida I like the tough competition in the SEC.

St. Richt

July 16th, 2009
1:50 pm

The best job in college football is not Notre Dame or Florida…
It is at the University(sic) of Georgia. Mark Richt has it made. He gets a free spray on tan every week and was crowned National Champion on Aug 1 2008. Doest get any sweeter than that. He also has the best defensive coordinator in the game today, if not ever. That run at and bounce off ball carrier style of defense is just what is needed to take down those pesky ball handlers tryin to score. Dawgs rule!

Got 12?

July 16th, 2009
1:50 pm

To all the rival fans praying out of fear and jealousy for UM’s departure, please stop it. League dominance is cyclical. His dominance over a particular school or coach is (probably) cyclical as well.

To all the blind faithful within the Gator nation, please stop it. As I previously stated, I expect UM to be at UF next year but don’t act like its an utter impossibility that he’ll take the ND job.

Cameron

July 16th, 2009
1:56 pm

I don’t know why everyone makes such a big deal about all of these things. What is the coach supposed to do? What was Saban supposed to do? He knew his heart was with college football. He knew he was interested in Alabama. But, he wasn’t 100% SURE he was going to Alabama. If he is honest and says, “I am interest in Alabama. I love college football. I am going to listen to Alabama and see what they have to say. I also love my job and can see myself coaching in Miami for a very long time. I love these players and would give my life for them. I know whatever I choose, I will be a lucky, lucky man.” His whole team and locker room would have quit on him from the get go. Then, what happens. Alabama and him can’t agree on contract terms and he wants to stay at Miami. Well, great. Except, the players don’t respect you anymore and won’t play hard for you, so we are going to have to look for a new coach. Good luck.

You are screwed either way. The best thing to do is say, “I am not going anywhere. I love this job and want to retire here.” Then, if you leave, so what. People will be mad, but if you win they will forgive you. If you don’t leave, you say, “I told you I wasn’t going anywhere.”

It is the same in the real world. If you work for a struggling company, that is scaling back salary, staff, benefits, and retirement. Are you not going to look for another job? When your boss says, “I have heard some rumors that you are looking around, keeping you options open. Is this true?” Does anyone expect you to say, “I think this company is going bankrupt and I need to find something, anything, else so I can support my family?” No, or you would be effectively telling your boss that you think he is a filure. More than likely you say, “I have been contacted and I have listened to what others have to say, but I am not seeking another job.” Same principle.

ReptilesRule

July 16th, 2009
2:01 pm

I find it very very very satisfying that we are at a place now where the only hope that our rival fans feel they have is for Urban to leave. WEAK!!! Thats like hoping that the other team has alot of key injuries so that you have a chance to win the game. I love it!

M Richt

July 16th, 2009
2:03 pm

Watch me do a flip off the diving board then we’ll go bowling.

Tide Rising

July 16th, 2009
2:05 pm

Grator Growl,

Paul Finebaum is not a pro Alabama media member. He is a UT grad and has been ragging and riling Bama fans for years. He is like the Rush Limbaugh of sports radio. People either love or hate him but they tune in for either of those 2 reasons. I guess he just ran out of material to annoy Bama fans and started a new rumor mongering campaign against Meyer.

I’m surprised Tony gave this man credibility by rehashing his innuendo, unsubstantiated rumors, and meaningless drivel. Tony is better than that and I can only guess Tony just needed some material or slipped up by following up on Slimebaum’s column.

I hope and think Meyer stays at UF for a long time because we absolutely welcome the challenge. Programs ebb and flow and right now Uf is on a super run, especially with FSU and Miami currently in a down cycle and UF having its best player and talent level ever. That will not last forever. Neither will 13-1 seasons every year in the rough and tumble SEC.

I suspect that UF will be good for a long time though and the best thing rival fans can do is to man up, accept the challenge, and look forward to beating Meyer on the field of play as opposed to whining and hoping he’ll just go away. Aint gonna happen. Doesn’t need to. The man is not superman. He can be beat. Ole Miss proved it. Heck, even Mike Shula proved it.

I think and hope he stays a long time and I disdain anyone who is just hoping that he’ll leave. That would be pathetic.

Gatorzone

July 16th, 2009
2:08 pm

Why would anyone choose to rebuild in a terrible climate with a tempremental fan base and no recruiting base, when he has everything he wants and/or needs here in Florida?

IRISH25

July 16th, 2009
2:09 pm

DAP01, YOU’RE A MORON!!

Gridiron Gator

July 16th, 2009
2:10 pm

I guess if you know you can’t dethrone the King, try to run him out of town! Long live the King!!!

Scott

July 16th, 2009
2:10 pm

Finebaum is more retarded than the fanbases he caters to…

Father of 8

July 16th, 2009
2:12 pm

Todd, no matter how long he stays, some people will say he hasn’t been there long enough to have proven himself. If he does the same thing over 8 years, somebody will point out that he hasn’t been at UF as long as Bear Bryant was at Alabama. I hope we are both alive 4 years from now.

Tide Rising

July 16th, 2009
2:14 pm

Gatorzone,

That’s the whole point we are always hearing with the Saban leaving in a year nonsense. Whether you’re talking about Saban or Meyer why on earth would anyone uproot their family and leave great weather, incredible recruiting base, awesome facilities, alumni support, gobs of money, etc. simply to start all over again. It wouldn’t make a hill a beans worth of sense.

Tide Rising

July 16th, 2009
2:16 pm

Scott,

He does indeed cater to the Bama fan base but only in the sense that most of us hate him with a passion. The man is a moron but he’s one of those types that you just love to hate.

TampaDave

July 16th, 2009
2:19 pm

Im willing to bet anyone here that Meyer will be the coach at Florida long after most of the other current SEC coaches are gone.

Tide4u2c

July 16th, 2009
2:19 pm

IRISH25,

Tell them about how Notre Dame fans would love for Urban Meyer to come to ND.Again I hope Urban does not leave Florida.

big dawg

July 16th, 2009
2:21 pm

ego, he has THE biggest ego in the business.(him and saban) he’ll be gone next year.. trust me. and i agree with most that it’s not him that sux going up against, it’s tebow. he truly may be the best college player ever to play. other than hershel……..:)

Otto

July 16th, 2009
2:21 pm

Todd, Dooley didn’t inherit Herschel. He won a long hard fight against schools coast to coast to get him in Athens. Herschel is known as one of the first to hold past signing day.

Also don’t forget as recently as ‘76 UGA was SEC champs and played that year in the Sugar for a shot at the national title. Pitt won the Sugar to become national champs.

First Time Caller

July 16th, 2009
2:28 pm

You have to admit, Finebaum has gotten alot of pub out of this. I’ll bet Urban Meyer didn’t know Paul Finebaum from lip balm a little over a week ago. Which is probably why PF expresses such distain for Meyer. Funny how Mr College Football could get him (Meyer) right on the phone though…

Tide4u2c

July 16th, 2009
2:33 pm

I stopped listening to Paul Finebaum along time ago.

Dink

July 16th, 2009
2:34 pm

Otto,

Wish you had not reminded me of Dorset & Pitt!

#1 BAMA FAN

July 16th, 2009
2:44 pm

Urban Meyer will not leave the Gators for ND. He has one of the best coaching jobs at one of the best schools. You might hate him but he has done a good job. My advice for my Tide and the rest of the SEC is man up and play. RTR

Tide Rising

July 16th, 2009
2:49 pm

Tide4u2c,

Wise choice to stop listening to Paul Slimebaum. I know other Bama fans that still listen to his program even though they hate the guy. The just want to hear what kinda smack he’s going to say next.

As a matter of fact he was on his show a month or 2 rehashing the old rumors about a Bama booster who owns an auto dealership in Gadsden buying Dodge chargers for recruits like Jerrell Harris and Dre Kirkpatrick. Never mind that those rumors were started on Auburn message boards and were looked into and found to be 100% baseless.

Sam

July 16th, 2009
2:50 pm

While I would never say never, Tony makes a great argument against Meyer going to ND. One thing I have read is that Meyer likes that he can recruit easily in FL. I do not mean that kids want to go there, but that he can see a lot of recruits and be home that night for dinner. He would not be able to do that at ND.

Even with Tebow gone in 2010, it is not like he is going to be starting some schlep walk on. I think he has signed one of the top QBs in the past couple of years.

Got 12?

July 16th, 2009
2:51 pm

SEC Coaches announced their pre-season all conference team today. Julio (Bama), Ciron Black (LSU), and Berry (UT) were the only unanimous selections.

Which coach(es) didn’t vote for Tebow? I’m guessing Lane and Nutt, who probably voted for Snead.

Got 12?

July 16th, 2009
2:57 pm

I’m guessing tomorrow’s column will be about the SEC Coachs’ Pre-season All Conference Team. The coaches (who, by default, know the most about SEC football) picked Julio as a unanimous first-team selection.

We can rehash the Julio v. AJ debate tomorrow or some other slow football news day.

Tide4u2c

July 16th, 2009
3:06 pm

Tide Rising,

Yeah I know a few Bama fans too that listen to him eventhough they don’t really like him. What did it for me is I remember when Bama was going after Saban and Paul Finebaum was all for it and he did a segment on how Saban deals with the media, now it was never a problem for me how Saban does the media as a matter of fact I like his style, if you ask a good quetion he will answer you,etc plus Saban does’nt want information to get to rival teams and he does’nt much allow assistent coaches to talk to the media. Well it was’nt a problem for Finebaum either at that time. Yet after Saban came to Alabama he does a segment and rips into Saban about how he does the media. That did it for me.

Island Dawg

July 16th, 2009
3:06 pm

Yes, and Richt is soon heading to Tallahassee. Yawn… I know it’s the off-season but this conjecture is unreal. If Meyer goes anywhere it’s to the NFL, same with Richt. The UF and UGA HC jobs are possibly the best in the NCAA. Great climates and campuses, very fertile recruiting grounds and great support. I’ll throw in Texas as well, but University of Southern Compton ain’t up there.

Jevan's Dad

July 16th, 2009
3:13 pm

Well Jevan, we did get Tebow there, but we’re gonna make him a linebacker. You come on down and you’ll be the man at QB for the gators.
The guy’s a convicted liar, just like Saban. Don’t listen to what they say, just watch them go, go, go.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
3:13 pm

Got 12,

I’m sure it’ll be a topic of discussion. While Tebow not getting a unanimous vote is a dig, I’m cool with it, it’s not a huge deal. I think the bigger snub is A. Hernandez only getting 3rd. There’s not a TE in the country I’d trade him for.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
3:17 pm

Yet another legal expert in our midst…

Island Dawg

July 16th, 2009
3:18 pm

He’s going nowhere. Yes, he will lose possibly the best college player in recent memory, but I’ll take sunny, near both coasts Gainesville and Florida recruiting grounds over gray, nasty-a$$ South Bend any day. Only way he can go “up” over UF is the Saban/Spurrier route and look where both are now. Just a thought. Sorry, guys, he doesn’t have anywhere near the Spurrier W/L on us and I can’t wait to see what the post-Tebow era brings

TechBuzz

July 16th, 2009
3:21 pm

Meyer still remembers that taunting penalty ordered by Richt in the ga-fl game 2 years ago, and will use that to his advantage for years in pumping up the players before the game. Richt just doesn’t have what it takes to win big games. He’s been at Ga a lot longer than Meyer but can’t beat him unless the florida QB is hurt. Maybe uga should try another blackout this year in the florida game—it worked great last year! Watch out–Meyer just called another time out!

Will

July 16th, 2009
3:22 pm

Ya, and Obama told me my taxes weren’t going up.

AltamahaDawg

July 16th, 2009
3:24 pm

If he didn’t refer to himself in the third person, it doesn’t count.

FWIW, I hope he doesn’t leave. I didn’t want SOS to leave. There will be years that he has the pieces, there will be years he does not, just like every coach at every school since the game began. He will lose 1 out of every 5 games over time, and everybody else just needs to make sure they have thier act together to be that one.

Island Dawg

July 16th, 2009
3:24 pm

Tech Buzz, I’d love to see what UF would do to the Jackoffs. Remember LSU?

Sunny Purdue

July 16th, 2009
3:24 pm

I think he is laying low waiting for the jawga job to open up. But then again why would he want that ….he already owns the dogs.

Houston Nutt

July 16th, 2009
3:27 pm

Got 12,

I did not vote for Jevan snead. Coaches cannot vote for their own player. So that means that someone voted against Tebow in favor of Snead or someone else. Who????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Given that Lane Kiffin is obviously very juvenile, childish, and immature I don’t think there is any question that he is probably the one who denied Tebow the unanimous selection. He obviously did it in a cowardly fashion in order to spite Tebow and the Florida program. Everybody knows it was most likely him.

TS

July 16th, 2009
3:34 pm

If Kiffin didn’t vote for Tebow then please let it leak out in the next couple weeks. I already have my TN ticket in The Swamp so that would be OKAAAY with me. Not so much for Tennessee though.

G8R GRAD

July 16th, 2009
3:36 pm

Jeff Sanchez:

One might question the validity of ANY information glommed from a site named after a character in Animal House!

KingGator

July 16th, 2009
3:36 pm

Mr. Barnhart, you hit the nail on the head. And that is, the Florida coaching job is in the top 3 of college football. So yeah, coaches come and go, but Gator football has become a dynasty, and the rest of the SEC and college football world now realizes that.

If I were Urban Myer, I would enjoy the moment and let it linger as long as possible. And with the roll he is on, why even consider another job, unless it is with America’s Team, the Dallas Cowboys. Don’t forget where Jimmy Johnson wound up after getting Miami up on top

jarvis

July 16th, 2009
3:43 pm

Urban Meyer reminds me NOTHING of Bobby Petrino. He may not be the most-friendly guy in the world, but I’ve seen nothing that shows he has the lack of interity or the lack of respect Petrino showed for his players.
The simple fact that he is tweaking his offensive strategy this year to give Tebow more time in protype sets says he cares more about his players than Petrino ever has.

Lest I need to remind the folks on this blog, I’m a two time UGA-grad, and a season ticket holder.

I despise Florida, but you can’t crap on a man’s integrity without cause.

Got 12?

July 16th, 2009
3:44 pm

Coach Nutt, I apologize.

I also apologize for jumping the gun on tomorrow’s (probable) topic, Tony.

Let’s get back to Coach UM and ND.

Volman

July 16th, 2009
3:45 pm

I believe Urban Meyer’s words as much as I believe ANY hype that puts the Georgia Bulldogs or “dawgs” in the National Title talk. Both are epic failures.

Houston Nutt

July 16th, 2009
3:47 pm

Got12,

I’ll give you that. If Julio Jones is a unanimous pick by the SEC coaches then that clearly does end the Julio vs AJ debate. AJ is still a great player though and I think any Bama fan like yourself would love to have that guy nearly as much as Julio Jones.

Houston Nutt

July 16th, 2009
3:50 pm

Got 12,

I’m thinking it would be an awesome topic tomorrow to know who slighted the mighty Tebow. Ya just know it was the immature and childish Kiffin but yet ya can’t prove it. Just more ammo for the sure to come slaughter in the swamp when UT heads down there.

Kiffin and people like volman above calling Meyer as well as the dawgs “epic failures” ensures that Meyer will not stop at 60, he’s probably now going to go for putting up 70 on the vols.

how2fish

July 16th, 2009
3:54 pm

I think he will stay..I want him to stay…to be the best you have to beat the best and I think once the best college football player I’ve ever seen goes… we can beat him..not ever year he is too good for that but most of the time I think yes we can..stay Urban..we love to hate you..not as much as Spurrier but yeah that we respect your slimy guts and want to kick your butt..

shankit

July 16th, 2009
4:05 pm

I realize Florida has won 2 out of the last 3 championships, but outside of this
accomplishment, Florida has actually been an embarrassment to the SEC in
bowl appearances.
Since 1999, excluding their national championships in 2006 and 2008, Florida
has only won two bowl appearances losing seven.
Their only two wins were against Maryland and Iowa.
Their other seven losses were to Michigan State, Iowa, Miami, and Michigan.
Zook and Spurrier both had losing records in bowl appearances.
So what does this mean, on SEC weak off years they win the conference and lose in the bowls.
I don’t really know why everyone fears them. Kinda like playing against Tiger.
I will say that Florida has a winning record overall against all SEC opponents except one.
I don’t think I have to say who the team is they have an overall losing record against.
The heck with Urban and the Gators and Tiger, I think it’s time we put some whip a– on them.

Dave

July 16th, 2009
4:10 pm

Why would a sane person take one of the most insecure jobs in the world a football coach and go from perhaps a school where he will have the most job security of any other coach in college football to just rolling the dice at Notre Dame. FL will pay him whatever Notre Dame will especially after this new TV contract the SEC just got.

Gatorzone

July 16th, 2009
4:12 pm

Shankit, in all fairness many SEC teams have underperformed in bowls when they are not playing for it all. Look at Alabama last year, or UT the previous year, or UGA against WVU. It just seems to be that if the powerhouses are not playing for it all they really do not have much interest in the game being played.

His Eminance

July 16th, 2009
4:13 pm

Houston & Got 12?:

Of course it was Kiffen!

OFF WITH HIS HEAD!

Gatorzone

July 16th, 2009
4:14 pm

Oh, and by all means open up some whip a– on us! UF loves to demoralize the best that UGA has to offer year in and year out. Yes, yes I know you own the over all record. So what, how is your record since you were born? Isn’t that what really matters?

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
4:16 pm

shankit is right….

What an embarrassment UF and I guess LSU have been winning NC’s as SEC schools since 1999 (the arbitrary year that SEC history started). What the conference really needs are teams that’ll go down and win the Capital One Bowl, the Peach Bowl, and the Outback Bowl (the losses you reference) that way the country will know that the SEC is the premier league in college football.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
4:20 pm

Oh yeah, #2 end of the season rankings and 10-win seasons are also what strikes fear into the heart of the Big 11, Big 12, and Big East. (OK, probably an unnecessary shot, but that overall record line incited it :) )

Get a clue. No one school is embarrassing the SEC. It’s the conference’s top to bottom strength that makes it the best. We’re not a one team league (PAC-10, Big 11, etc.) so when some teams are down, others pick up the slack.

shankit

July 16th, 2009
4:21 pm

GATORZONE
Too bad Florida doesn’t have any interest when they’re representing
their conference against other conferences including
Big Ten’s Michigan, Michigan STate and their “used to be”
interstate rival Miami, which Florida dropped because they
couldn’t handle them.

ray

July 16th, 2009
4:25 pm

You guys that think Meyer is so dishonest, can you give any examples? Sure he’s arrogant, and intensely competitive, but he is also a man of high integrity and moral principle. He doesn’t lie to recruits, and promise them playing time or a certain jersey number, or such His straightforward manner and basic integrity, combined with his intensity, are what make him a great coach. If he says he’s never back to coach Notre Dame, you bank it.

stassen.com

July 16th, 2009
4:28 pm

Shankit,

You are dead wrong on Florida having a winning head to head overall record against everyone in the SEC. Not to diminish the gators but quite the opposite is true. Florida had been a powerhouse for all of 20 years or less. The 100 years or so of football before that they were larely a joke and irrelevant.

Georgia owns an 8 game edge over the gators head to head 46-38. Despite Florida’s dominance over the last 20 years Georgia had so thoroughly dominated Florida for so long that they still lead the all time series by 8 games.

Bama leads them 21-14. Thank God for the gators that they never played Bama much before the 90s and on or else this record would be horribly out of wack.

UT and the gators are tied 19-19

Auburn leads the gators 43-38. No surprise there as Auburn was always viewed as a bigger time program until the 90s.

Even Ole Miss which most people have laughed about for 30 or 40 years(except for this year) leads the series with the mighty gators 12-10.

Again, not to put down Florida because right now they are a rolling. But the fact is that this is a program that has only been good for 2 decades and that’s it. Their rise also coincides with down cycles at Miami and FSU. Those programs are too big and too strong to stay down for long. They will be back in no time and that includes taking back some of the bountiful recruiting talent that Florida has taken instate lately.

shankit

July 16th, 2009
4:38 pm

Your Powerhouse Gators since 1999 (could have picked any year
but ya’ll set the precedent of only wanting to go back a certain period
of time for establishing records.
Ya’ll had a couple of good years since 1999, but I’ll bet you didn’t know
that your winning percentage during this period has only been 63.3%.
I wouldn’t exactly call that a Powerhouse.

G8R GRAD

July 16th, 2009
4:43 pm

Regarding the All-SEC team and to quote two of my esteemed fellow Gators,. . . . . . . .

an embarrassment of riches:

“Defending SEC and national champion Florida Gators had a league-high 16 representatives on the 2009 All-Southeastern Conference Coaches’ Football Team, while LSU had 10 total selections and defending Western Division Champion Alabama and Georgia had nine each, the league office announced on Thursday.

Florida led the way with eight players selected on the first team while Alabama had six and LSU had three.”

Dawgs Craze

July 16th, 2009
4:44 pm

I’m hoping weis gets fired and Notre Dame offers big money to get Meyer away from Florida. Then, they’ll end up with another mediocre coach like Zook and the Dawgs can start dominating the series like the 70s and 80s!

dawgtired

July 16th, 2009
4:54 pm

That’s great, Urban leaves for ND, UGA replaces CWM with Charlie Strong, whose defenses have puzzled CMR. CWM goes to UM.

shankit

July 16th, 2009
4:56 pm

G8GRAD
“an embarassment of riches”
Congratulations to the Gators for have 16 football players nominated to the SEC Coaches football team.
This goes right along with your accomplishments based on a recent survey of the AJC among all
college teams in the nation regarding academics.
Florida is congratulated for having the lowest SAT score of all teams in the SEC, (850), and also
in the lowest five among all colleges polled in the country.
Urban knows how to recruit.
Ga. Tech led the nation with a 1020 average, and Georgia was second highest in the SEC behind Vanderbilt.

Tide Rising

July 16th, 2009
4:59 pm

Dawgs craze,

Notre Dame is set up very nicely to have a 9 or dare I say 10 game winning season. Their schedule is flat out notoriously easy with their usual matchup with USC being the only tough game. Normally Boston College is a loss for them but BC is in a flux right now with what happened with the firing of their coach, their qb situation, etc.

They also return all 5 Olineman and most of their team. They still suck but with such an easy schedule they will get 9 wins and go to a bcs bowl where they will promptly have the living hell beat out of them.

So we know Weiss won’t get fired this year. It would be next year at the earliest.

Besides, quit worrying about Urban Meyer. You should be glad he’s here. It keeps the standards high. The rest of us just have to man up and beat him. It can be done and its just pathetic to base your football program’s future hopes on the promise that somebody else’s coach will eventually leave. I just happen to be in the opposite boat. I’m hoping for Gene Chizik to stay forever in the same way that my Auburn friends were hoping for Shula to stay forever!

I’m certain Tony’s topic tomorrow will be the sec all conference selections and of that I’m certain that the ensuing discussion will about who left out Tebow from being a unanimous pick. This should be interesting. From some previous posts it looks like its already started.

FLDAWG

July 16th, 2009
4:59 pm

Why would he leave? He has made UF a power house and I am not one of those UGA fans who wants him to leave. Suck it up and quit wishing with him out it will be all better in DAWG nation. To be the best you have got to beat the best and right now the Gators are the best plain and simple.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
5:02 pm

shankit,

Impressive analysis. Just a couple of questions…

- What winning % designates a powerhouse?
- How did you determine that UF only wins the conference in the ‘weak years’?

Since we’re having fun with statistics, why don’t you take the year you were born and start compiling statistics from then. That way our ‘precedent’ of setting the year is broken and your parents got to pick.

Tide Rising

July 16th, 2009
5:08 pm

Shankit,

I’m assuming your a dawgs fan. Nothing wrong with that. But jeeez. Who cares about what the average sat scores of the football players is. I don’t care if its Bama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, etc. lets be honest about it. Most of these guys aren’t geniuses and that goes for anywhere in the sec save Vandy.

The only criticism I’ve heard of Florida’s football team is that almost all of their players are steered into the 3 easiest majors on campus. Don’t know if that’s true or not. Its just something that was written in the AJC. But even if it is true and your players aren’t exactly a bunch of Einsteins its better that a player get a degree in sociology than not getting a college degree at all.

Some of the gator fans may not if UF has a policy of steering or not but that’s a topic of discussion for a whole other time.

In the meantime Urban aint going anywhere and I’m glad for it. Looking forward to more great contests against him.

Otto

July 16th, 2009
5:12 pm

Shankit, why don’t you look at UF’s record against UGA, Tenn, and LSU since SOS became the coach. They have dominated the series between those 3 teams for the past 20 years. I think you’ll find out why nobody in the SEC excpet maybe Auburn looks forward to playing them.

Charlotte, Why do we have to use HIS age? I want to use my Great great Grandfather’s age.

CharlotteGator

July 16th, 2009
5:17 pm

shankit,

Facts can be fun….

Checked out your survey….

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories/2008/12/28/acadmain_1228_3DOT.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

Never saw that 850 score you cited in your post. Did see this…

“The University of Oklahoma and the University of Florida, whose football teams play Jan. 8 for the national championship, ranked near the bottom in standardized test scores. Florida’s freshman football classes of 2002-04 ranked 50th in average score out of 53 schools for which football SAT averages were available, and Oklahoma’s freshman football classes of 2001-03 ranked 42nd.”

- Surely not something to be proud of at all, however, please take a look at the years. Mr. Meyer wasn’t there.If you look at Meyer’s tenure, the GPA’s are going up, so he’s probably doing something right.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/gators/2008/01/gator-football.html

Also, let’s not cherry pick from the survey either. Your beloved dawgs haven’t limited their recruitment to Rhodes Scholars yet either..

“Many schools routinely used a special admissions process to admit athletes who did not meet the normal entrance requirements. More than half of scholarship athletes at the University of Georgia, Clemson University, UCLA, Rutgers University, Texas A&M University and Louisiana State University were special admits. ‘If the university says they’d help us meet team needs, that’s as important as finding an oboist for the orchestra,’ said Nancy McDuff, the University of Georgia’s associate vice president for admissions and enrollment management. The numbers, however, show special admissions exceptions are used far more often for athletes than oboists. At Georgia, for instance, 73.5 percent of athletes were special admits compared with 6.6 percent of the student body as a whole.”

jumbeauxtiger

July 16th, 2009
6:15 pm

I for one hope UM stays. I have been to every LSU-FL game home and away but one since 1981 and enjoy the intensity and electrifying atmosphere at the Swamp. I like the competition and is certainly better for the league.

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

GatorGloryDays

July 16th, 2009
6:20 pm

Why would anyone in there right mind leave the a football program that is loaded with talent for 3 to 4 more years (including a QB that will play at the same or higher level when Tebow leaves in John Brantley), is continuing to load up on the nation’s best talent, has the best faclilities, the best statium with the loudest and most supportive fans, is surrounded in ones own state with the best high school talent in America, gets Gator Nation support anywhere the head coach travels, gets big bucks to coach and will get bigger bucks soon, is adored by his players, and his family for bringing them to Gainesville and out of Utah, and has a chance to win the SEC and National Championship every single year. Oh, yeah, Urban wants to give all this up to go to Notre Dame. If anyone believes that, then that person is a total idiot. If you are dreaming it, you are a Bulldog fan, a Vol fan, a Wildcat fan, or a Vandy fan. Meyer is keeping his head coaching skills right here in Hogtown, USA…that’s Gainesville, Florida, folks. Keep on wishing and dreaming because that is all the hope you have.

Vulcan Alex

July 16th, 2009
8:00 pm

Try this – Notra Lame is a rotten job, you don’t get enough good players to meet the foolish expectations of your fans. There are several better jobs with UF way better. Living in South Bend and raising your children there rather than in Gville, once again a winner for UF. I can see Urban retiring and being an AD or sports announcer, but only after the fire simmers down. Should be 5 – 15 years more if he can learn to delegate more!!

dawes

July 16th, 2009
8:07 pm

urban meyer will be at north dame next year don,t let cry baby fool you all he is a cry baby cry your eye out

Dawg1

July 16th, 2009
8:53 pm

As far as I can tell, this guy has pretty much lived up to his word. Give him credit, he has done a great job at UF. Why would he leave for N.D.? It isn’t a better job. Granted, he no longer has to play in the SEC and could design a ‘cake’ schedule and make USC the big game every year, but again why leave? They love him in Gainesviile. Half the state of Indiana is in Florida during the winter. I would call that a clue.

Sounds more like wishful thinking to me. Quit worrying about UF Dawg fans. Learn to take care of our own and the wins will with UF will come. Outside of the butt kicking we received last year, the games have actually been tight. And even in that butt kicking, there were two or three critical plays that blew it open.

Show a little class, wish UF well and go out and take care of business.

Dawg farts

July 16th, 2009
9:26 pm

Those dumb Georgia fans here said Meyers offense spread would not work in the SEC…Two national titles for Meyers and zero nc titles for Mark Richt.

MVP

July 16th, 2009
9:32 pm

Nick Saban called UF Jeremy Foley and said after Urban leaves UF, Saban dream job is coaching at UF.

Urban win Championships

July 16th, 2009
9:39 pm

Georgia Football team not man enough to win championships….

third quarter fan

July 16th, 2009
9:39 pm

Where is play that funky music ND guy? What is his take? And what will the Dow do tomorrow?(ND guy knows)

SEC this year… One big rock and a bunch of pebbles.

LSUFanatic

July 16th, 2009
9:45 pm

LSU beats Florida this year in Baton Rouge baby—mark it down! Fla and Tebow will melt down with all that noise from 90,000 drunk cajuns yelling the entire game. LSU 30 FL 24. LSU wins the SEC!!!!

Chuck Uga

July 16th, 2009
9:59 pm

Notre Dame will have to pay Meyer $6 or $7 million to get him. He would also command a huge budget in order to recruit. I am the biggest UGA fan out there, but I accept the fact Florida is currently the Miami Hurricanes of the 1980s and 1990s. They are going to win titles because FSU can’t get rid of Bowden and Miami can’t keep a good head coach anymore. They have taken over what they should have had years ago…dominance in recruiting in Florida, the top State for college football talent (sorry California). UGA will win a fair share of games against Florida under Richt, but it will get ugly quickly if UGA loses Richt. I think UGA will find a way to win in October, but injury situations may prevent that. All we can do is wait and see.

Mike T.

July 16th, 2009
10:14 pm

On a College Gameday in 2004, Urban Meyer said the very same thing that Barnhart reported
here,he said that he was not leaving Utah to coach at Florida. He has been down this road before.

Vince Neil - The King of Rock N Roll

July 16th, 2009
10:28 pm

None of you loser mutt fans got the scrotum to party with me

Urban "Legend" Meyer

July 16th, 2009
10:32 pm

I could care less about Georgia. There a bunch of losers and their coach is a dork who tans on a daily basis.

gatordc09

July 16th, 2009
10:45 pm

Why isnt media talking abt Pete Carrol or Bob Stoops going to ND…

tp

July 16th, 2009
10:56 pm

Charlotte Gator, Otto, and others. Do you realize what Tebow’s room looked like his Sr. in high school. It was more Gatored out than Mr. Two Bits house, Both parents were Gator grads, they had a Gator head on thier mailbox….. Dude was inheited by Urban Myer.

Ga fans. Loran Smith is from Wrightsville, GA. Hershcel as we all know is from Writesville, as is some car dealership dude that chipped in. Yes, Mike Cavan recruited his “ass of” but HW was inherited by JV Dooley, trust me.

Myer and Dooley are great leaders. Myer broke down in crocodile tears after a game. Let’s see what he does with a very avg. Johnny Brantley in 2010.

Paul Pondscum

July 16th, 2009
11:02 pm

There is a storm brewing over Bama!! Seems that Nick Sabans “dream job” is Florida, so he has been fueling the rumors of Meyer to Notre Dame so he can slip slide over to Gainesville! Only problem is they would also have to get rid of Jeremy Foley whom they know would never hire Tricky Nick.

Recruitnik

July 16th, 2009
11:14 pm

Tony,
You really are clueless. If you believe meyer then I have to question your common sense and intelligence.

dawes

July 17th, 2009
12:15 am

i die before i wish florida idon.t care if they ever win another game i am georgia bulldog diehard fan

Spike

July 17th, 2009
7:15 am

I think he will stay, but if Spurrier could leave UF so could Meyer.

rocksteadyfreddie

July 17th, 2009
7:20 am

Tebow was class of 06, not 05. Meyer inherited Leak from Zook.

Jeff

July 17th, 2009
8:18 am

who cares???????????? who really cares???????? did you write this for the Gator fans?????? Seems last time I looked, you worked for the AJC….as in Atlanta paper- who the h cares about Urban. How about some articles about UGA- heck- even tech. You’re in love with Fla and it shows……..

CharlotteGator

July 17th, 2009
8:28 am

TP,

Nice try. The recruitment actually came down to UF and Alabama and it was neck and neck. No one knew which way he’d go. Try and give Meyer some credit, I know it’s hard. By the way, how’d you get into Tebow’s room back then? That’s some great investigative blogging.

As far as average John Brantley, please keep thinking that. We can’t wait to see what Meyer does with him either.

CharlotteGator

July 17th, 2009
9:23 am

Jeff,

Tony doesn’t write for the Athens Banner Herald. It may surprise you but a lot of graduates of the various schools in the SEC actually reside in Atlanta which is the paper he writes for, so he writes about the SEC in it’s entirety. If you’re a Jacket fan then you may have a complaint as that school is actually in Atlanta, and doesn’t get as much pub. Either way, I think most are happy with Tony’s column and topics. If you’d like, feel free to remove the gun that someone’s pointing at you that’s forced you to read this column. That might help.

DawginLex

July 17th, 2009
9:34 am

Charlottegator,

No doubt Brantley is talented but I have said it before and will say it again, you only get 1 Herschel and Tebow is your Herschel.

CharlotteGator

July 17th, 2009
10:56 am

DawginLex,

100% correct. I just think Brantley has a chance to be our Knowshon, Robert Edwards, Garrison Hearst, etc. type QB. And hopefully not Danny Ware :)

Clearly he won’t be close to Tebow, but I think he’s certainly got a shot to be a good talented QB that impacts games and that other coaches have to plan/adjust for.

"Governor Tyree's fan club"

July 17th, 2009
12:51 pm

In response to “Gov Tyree”: The economy is terrible and people are losing their jobs (hence the overwhelming amount of comments on this page). As “Governor” shouldn’t you find something more important to do with your time than licking Urban’s hind parts on the internet??????????????????????????????????????????? I’m glad the people of Florida’s tax dollars are well spent!

ThaMan

July 17th, 2009
1:27 pm

IRISH25 – I don’t blame you. He would ruin your decade long tradition of losing.

Irishcane

July 17th, 2009
1:53 pm

I’m a Notre Dame fan who does not want Urban Meyer to come. I also believe Urban Meyer. However, I often see the “why would he” comments from Gators.

Meyer has won two national titles at UF in an impressive start to his career. What does that get him? Erikson did the same at Miami in ‘89 and ‘91. He’s now toiling in the desert.

Holtz won one at ND in ‘88 and he’s basking in the glory of the Hall of Fame this upcoming weekend. Win at UF and UF fans remember you. Win at ND and everyone remembers you.

BeachGaBulldog

July 17th, 2009
3:20 pm

Who cares? He is a CLASSLESS LOSER! Crier acts like a baby when he doesn’t get his way, and he lets his THUGS who have done sick acts like assault and battery continue to play. That is why UF is known as The UNIVERSITY OF FELONS!
By the way, COMMON SENSE says that when you win all of your games, you are CHAMPION, regardless of what a bunch of BIASED idiots think. Therefore, Utah Utes 2008 National Champions ALWAYS and FOREVER! Likewise Boise State 2006 National Champions ALWAYS and FOREVER!
F— the FELONS!

Dawg Tired

July 21st, 2009
9:47 pm

Tony – I believe Coach Meyer believes what he says! However, you asked whether I believe what he says. Having been good friends with several college coaches, I have learned that the really good ones, and Coach Meyer is about as good as they come, often get intrigued, even obsessed, with the idea of turning a big time program around. It makes them tick. They love the challenge.

So, do I believe Coach Meyer when he says he will never be the coach at ND? My answer, never is a long time and one should never say never.

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November 28th, 2009
9:20 pm

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