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Tide4u2c
July 13th, 2009
2:47 pm
GatorGloryDays,
I agree for the most part.Florida should’ve won that game considering the talent and depth they had compared to Alabama which has been dealing with depth problems that Saban warned about since he arrived but it is getting better.Yet Bama hung tough with Florida the NC.Now imagine Bama with more depth and talent which is improved and only getting better.Yet so many seem to be overlooking some things about Alabama.
dawggirl
July 13th, 2009
2:48 pm
Gator in the Hootch – Well, I suppose all 118 other teams in Division 1 should just pack it in for the next 5 years or so. I mean, the next QB better than Tebow? And the one after him better than that? And five star, 3 deep at every position? You guys should be taking the NFL to school then. Sounds like you should be winning every game by 500 points from now on.
Dawg'94
July 13th, 2009
2:51 pm
The Dawgs are going to win them ALL & the national championship. Cox will do what Tee Martin did at Tennessee. The super star leaves & the TEAM becomes better than ever. Anybody with me???
Heavy Dawg
July 13th, 2009
2:53 pm
I’m here with you 94. I think the same thing!
Nachos
July 13th, 2009
2:54 pm
Rebel Rouser… let the adults talk and go back to mowing lawns/painting houses for a living. I’m sure you are 4.0 grad from UGA right? I bet all the women there just LOVED your great personality. Be gone mutt.
41-30.. the night the blackout crap ended.
Atlanta Gator
July 13th, 2009
2:54 pm
“. . . Florida and the peloton . . . .”
That is absolutely hilarious. Not sure if all these SEC football fans are in on the joke, though.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
2:56 pm
Atlanta Gator,
I think UGA, Florida, LSU, all have equal to if not better recruiting classes the last 3 years than Bama. We may have been rated no. 1 the last 2 years but as you and I know there is little difference between a no. 1 rated class and a no. 5 or 6 class and the reality is that UF, UGA, UF are always in the top 7 and the only reason Bama had the no. 1 class over the others is because we also signed more players.
On an individual rating basis I wouldn’t be surprised at all if UGA and UF have higher rated players than Bama. Plus you don’t really know how all the talent really stacks up each recruiting class till a couple of years down the line. My only point is that we’re now back up there now as far as talent goes.
But for someone to say Ole Miss has better recruiting talent than Bama. Man, that’s just plain crazy. Some of these Ole Miss fans are now bigger Kool aid drinkers than some of us Bama fans have been. And I didn’t even think that was possible!
What?
July 13th, 2009
2:58 pm
Tide Rising- GT has only had 1 season where they won 10 games and that was 19 years ago. To say they will win 10 is kin to saying Baylor will win the Big 12 this year.
What?
July 13th, 2009
3:01 pm
Nachos, you are sure tough behind that keyboard. Now you are an Alabama fan? I guess rooting for other teams is what you are best at lika all other Nerd fans. They can NEVER be positive about their own team just negative about Georgia and rooting for whoever UGA plays.
PTC DAWG
July 13th, 2009
3:02 pm
Nice to know the ONLY question to be answered is will the Gators finish undefeated. Talk about counting chickens before they hatch…there is a reason they play the games.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
3:03 pm
What?,
They won 9 games in a coaching transition year. That’s not easy to do with a completely new coaching staff and offensive system. They can only get better and will get better. I’m not guaranteeing Tech will win 10 games.
I’m simply saying that every game on their schedule is winnable and that history has shown us that new coaches tend to do much better in their 2nd year when they’ve had a year under their belt. Look at Stoops at OU, went from 7-5 1st year to 13-0 2nd year and a nc, Tressel at Ohio St. went likewise from 7-5 his first year to a nc his 2nd year, Saban went from 7-6 his first year to 12-2. If you’re a tech hater that’s bad news for you.
Gatorzone
July 13th, 2009
3:03 pm
WHat? The correct term is akin.
Atlanta Gator
July 13th, 2009
3:03 pm
Atticus—-Here’s why I believe Meyer won’t leave: $4 million annually, even if he doesn’t win the BCS this year, $5 million if he does. There are only 5 or 6 athletic departments that can throw that kind of cash at a football coach, and I’m not sure Notre Dame is one of them anymore.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
3:06 pm
What?
For the record I’m not a dawg hater either. I’m a Bama fan through and through but since I’ve lived 20 years in Atlanta I follow both the dawgs and the jackets since they are the local teams. I just have an unbiased view that both of them will have good 9-10 win seasons. That’s all.
Atlanta Gator
July 13th, 2009
3:06 pm
Dawg94—-I can be convinced. Let’s play ball!
shankit
July 13th, 2009
3:06 pm
I don’t see how anyone can think TEbow will lead Florida to an undefeated season, when they have never had one in their history.
Almost had one Spurrier’s senior year, but lost to Georgia, ER EXCUSE ME LOST TO STANFILL, almost had one back in the 80s but lost to Georgia, ER EXCUSE ME WORLEY AND HENDERSON, almost had one back in the 90″s but lost their first game to the NOLES, and I go on and on, but the Gators need to get used to it, they will probably get by Ol’ Miss this year but again go 11-1 losin to Georgia.
What?
July 13th, 2009
3:06 pm
Tide Rising,
Now you are comparing GT to OU, Ohio St, and Alabama? Stop so you don’t make me fall out of my chair.
Gatorzone,
you are correct, it should have said “akin” but you knew what I was talking about and that is correct right?
Atlanta Gator
July 13th, 2009
3:07 pm
PTC DAWG—-It’s not the ONLY question, but it is the most relevant question.
Gatorzone
July 13th, 2009
3:09 pm
Of course, just yankin your chain.
Hey, Shankit. UF does not play Ole Miss this year! Keep talking though and people will think you are smart.
SSI gator
July 13th, 2009
3:11 pm
This just in -
Associated Press July 13, 2009
UGA skips the 2009 season and is declared the 2010 pre-season Football #1 Team in the country. Booster contributions pour in. Large stadium addition planned. Athletic Department raises prices for season ticket packages. Long lines reported at the Kool Aid stands. Athens Police Department called in to restore order. CMR predicted to be 2010 Coach of the Year. Awards cermony scheduled for July 4, 2010 which is re-named UGA Independence Day From Reality. Tony Barnhart to be guest speaker. Crowds expected to be in the 200k range. GA National Guard called up to ready status.
PTC DAWG
July 13th, 2009
3:12 pm
ATL Gator, you seem to have good sense, unlike many here. I truly believe that IF, and that’s a big IF, the UF players are buying to the “going undefeated” hype, there could be trouble. You and I both know it.
I saw a couple of other comments on here talking THIS years UF/UGA game being the game last years was supposed to be. I fully expect it. Best of luck….
Rebel Rouser
July 13th, 2009
3:14 pm
Let’s see…with a name like “Nachos” I envision a pimple faced 250-300lb out of shape dork around 30-35 years old that works pay check to pay check and couldn’t afford to buy a season ticket package to support his team unless he got a loan. How many more payments do you have on the truck?Do you still have the #3 Earnhart sticker in the back window or have you already replaced it with juniors #88. Grow up!I got at least 75 pepole like you working for me and you all talk the same…Big Hat..No Cattle!
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
3:15 pm
What?
I brought up the OU, Ohio St, and Bama because those are just 3 obvious examples that I can think of where coaches typically do much better in there 2nd year and obviously they are memorable because they are big name programs. Urban Meyer at UF is yet another example. I think UF was something like 9-3 his first year and then won it all the next year. I’m sure that there are plenty of middle tier programs where coaches have done better in their 2nd year. I’m not saying Tech wins the nc next year. Just that if the historical pattern holds true that they should be even better than last year. That’s all.
Scorekeeper
July 13th, 2009
3:19 pm
Rebel Rouser,
Actually it looks like you know quite a bit about nascar.
CharlotteGator
July 13th, 2009
3:19 pm
Tide4u2c – How can Alabama have 4 million #1 ranked recruiting classes in a row (actually i think the number posted was 2 or 3) but still have depth problems? Great backhanded compliments. Try just saying, “Florida was a better team and beat us.” (please note the period).
Also, no one is overlooking Alabama, just pointing out the obvious concerns. Having to replace a great o-line and starting an inexperienced QB are issues in the SEC. They can be overcome, but they’re legitimate question marks. UGA struggled with a decimated o-line last year and in ‘07 the new QB at Florida was ultra talented, but still couldn’t translate it into team success. There is no free lunch in the SEC at the QB position. Ask LSU. Doesn’t matter how many stars he had by his name or what he did in HS in Texas, McElroy hasn’t started in the SEC. It’s also tough to see the revamped o-line performing as well as last years which was far and away Bama’s strength. If they can, then great, and it’ll be surprise, but your crazy if you don’t think those are two tough hurdles to overcome.
It’s OK though, everyone has them, it’s life in the SEC:
Florida – How do you replace Percy?
UGA – Can you get anything out of the defense?
LSU – Can Jefferson step in and be a difference maker and will the D step up?
Ole Miss – Can you handle the success and expectations that come with it?
Atlanta Gator
July 13th, 2009
3:24 pm
PTC DAWG—-And that’s why the players should never be allowed to read fan blogs. The head coach has to have the big picture in mind, while game-planning for each and every game like it’s the end of the world. The players need to focus on one game at a time, adopt the warrior creed, stay hungry and play like they want to win every game like it’s their last. That’s how a team has an undefeated season.
CharlotteGator
July 13th, 2009
3:25 pm
dawggirl,
Brantley will be good, but obviously a step down from Tebow, anyone would be. Who knows about the Jordan Reed kid. Impossible to tell. Jon Bostic is said to be the heir apparent to Spikes. Of course he’s young so his development will be crucial. The DB’s should be fine, but we’ll take big hits across the OL and DL which will definitely hurt. Depending on how the season plays out, we’ll be replacing a lot of key positions in 2010, so it will all depend on how fast the young one’s mature and step up in the key slots. Like most of the top teams in the SEC, raw talent won’t be the issue, it’ll be the chemistry, maturity, and work ethic of the Florida players. Talent wise – they’ll match up just fine, but we lose way too much in leadership and experience to not be unsure of how 2010 will play out. All that said though, I’m definitely excited to see what it will be like when it arrives, but for now I’ll just do my best to make it to 2009 and enjoy whatever happens.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
3:35 pm
Charlotte gator,
I have to admit I chuckled over the 4 million straight top ranked recruit classes. Its actually 2 in a row top rated classes but as I pointed out earlier that’s still entirely subjective. it just means that we’re getting back up there as far as talent goes. McElroy is to Bama what Joe Cox is to UGA, someone who knows the offense, has been biding his time, has the confidence of his teammates, and is ready to go. Our only true question mark will be the O-line with 3 new starters. Everywhere else we are pretty solid.
Good questions on the other teams. Florida and Percy Harvin- Gators won’t miss a beat.
UGA- Defense can only get better
LSU- Jefferson is only 2 games more experienced than Cox or McElroy. Schedule is the toughest in the conference with road trips to Ole Miss, Bama, and UGA and Florida at home.
Ole Miss- They are very talented in their top 22 but are very thin. Got to avoid the injury bug.
CharlotteGator
July 13th, 2009
3:45 pm
Tide Rising,
Great point on McElroy being your version of Joe Cox, I definitely overlooked that about him. While I agree, I would say Cox is set-up a little better simply because of the O-line at UGA. They both will have 1 big time receiver and solid running games to ease them in, but O-line is the key with UGA and Bama’s offenses. Their styles are tough to stop if they’re mauling in the trenches, but the QB is in a lot of trouble if the O-line doesn’t hold up. The FL defense couldn’t do anything with Bama (or even UGA in the beginning of the game) until they started getting pressure on the QB. On paper, it seems like McElroy is in for a little more pressure until the new O-line gets their feet wet.
On a totally separate note, I don’t know how any of the other non-Bama or non-UGA fans feel, but Jones and Bryant are 1a and 1a in my book. Different type of players but strike the equal amount of fear in the hearts of opponents. I’d take either in orange and blue
Well actually I’d probably prefer Jones in our style for his down field blocking. He’s a MAN.
Not Disappointed
July 13th, 2009
3:59 pm
<————- Die Hard Jacket Fan here!
It appears that Florida will run thru the SEC East, georgia and the rest of the CROP will fight it out for the remaining spots. Tee Bow and group should win it all. Who can stop them? “Ramblin Wreck!”
G8R GRAD
July 13th, 2009
4:03 pm
Can’t tackle, huh?:
Nice to see someone else is watching the Tour!
Paul Finebaum
July 13th, 2009
4:08 pm
The sky is not blue! The sky is not blue! I love Nick Saban cause he listens to my show! I hate Urban Meyer cause he doesn’t even know who I am! I bet he’d even confuse me for that ball headed guy from the old Dick VanDyke show!!!
buckblue
July 13th, 2009
4:08 pm
Tide Rising….I don’t thinki the LSU vs bama game will be that tough of a game for LSU this year…..
Long Dawg
July 13th, 2009
4:09 pm
How can you argue with what Florida has in terms of talent, experience, on the field leadership and coaching. The whole package is there. The only teams that have a chance are LSU and Georgia and both would have to play lights out with no mistakes. It could happen but not likely. Florda wins the east then beats either LSU, Alabama or Ole Miss for the SEC Championship.
Rest of Georgia’s games? They beat Oklahoma State because they have a lousy offensive line and a lousy defensive backfield. The beat South Carolina because they have no quarterback and a medicore defense. The beat Arkansas because they may have the worst defense in the SEC. They beat Arizona State for the same reason they beat them last year, they are not very good.They beat LSU becauseonce again LSU is overrated and they get them at home. They beat Tennessee because they have no quarterback. They beat Vanderbilt because they are Vandy, they lose a close one to Florida because it’s the Georgia, Florida game. They beat Tennessee Tech, Auburn, Kentucky and Georgia Tech because Auburn is down and Kentucky is Kentucky and Georgia Tech will be beaten to a pulp by then given their schedule and associated injuries and they have no depth.
Paul Finebaum
July 13th, 2009
4:09 pm
In addition to being ball headed, I’m also bald headed.
Criminal Tide
July 13th, 2009
4:11 pm
This is what Tommy T thinks….
Former Auburn head coach Tommy Tuberville, who is in town with his son for the Manning Passing Academy, has strong opinions on which teams will play in the 2009 SEC championship game.
“In the East, I will be like everyone else and pick Florida,” Tuberville said. “They have great skill people on offense and Tim Tebow is a special individual at quarterback, but what I believe will have them in a position to repeat as national champions is the talent level they have on defense. They return every starter on defense and every key reserve. That is saying a mouthful. History has shown when they are loaded on defense they are playing in the SEC championship game. Urban Meyer will have this team focused on the task at hand.
“In the West, I am picking LSU,” Tuberville said. “Ole Miss is a real good team and so is Alabama, but if Jordan Jefferson continues to progress at quarterback then I firmly believe they are the team to beat. They have a huge offensive line returning, halfback Charles Scott, tight end Richard Dickson and wide receiver Brandon Lafell are outstanding on offense and John Chavis will do a great job for them on defense. I know they are going to have to play some young guys along the defensive line, but with some experience they have a chance to jell real well early on. Les (Miles) has done a terrific job at LSU and I really believe the game of the year in the SEC this season will be Oct. 10 between LSU and Florida, and I think they will play each other again in the SEC championship game.”
G8R GRAD
July 13th, 2009
4:12 pm
Clearly our three biggest challeges this Fall will be LSU, UGA and FSU, but a lapse in focus could result in a loss on any weekend in this conference. An undefeated season, however tenuous, is possible considering the depth of our roster.
And regarding life after Tebow, again, consider the vertigo-inducing depth of the Gator bench.
Atlanta Gator:
Sorry to hear of your run-in with Duvall County’s finest and the ensuing stay at their Gray-bar Inn. One of life’s more humbling experiences, I suspect.
Otto
July 13th, 2009
4:15 pm
Tide, I am as big of Joe C. fan as anyone but McElroy and Snead are looking to be the 2 best traditional drop back QBs in the SEC.
Brantley has looked good too as a more athletic spread option QB. I doubt UF will see that much drop off after Tebow.
PTC DAWG
July 13th, 2009
4:16 pm
ATL Gator, or they don’t play in the SEC….that helps too.
Reality
July 13th, 2009
4:18 pm
Barnhardt is nothing but a drive by blogger. He posts and then disappears. Way to mail it in again Tony. At least Bradley and Shultz actually read, respond and interact with their readers.
Jefferson
July 13th, 2009
4:21 pm
Same Time, same bat station…
Otto
July 13th, 2009
4:27 pm
Tubberville thought Kodi Burns was the answer at Auburn when he is looking mediocre at even the easiest passes. I am not sold on Jefferson and LSU’s schedule is harder than Ole Miss or Bama. LSU falls to UF, UGA, and Bama or Ole Miss.
Otto
July 13th, 2009
4:29 pm
Reality, But who cars what they are writing about. MLB and NFL requires the writers to work a crowd. SEC football does not.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
4:33 pm
Charlottegator and Otto,
I would have to agree with Charlotte gator on the O-line at UGA giving Joe Cox a better chance of being successful than McElroy, especially early. Man I hate trying to be objective. They remind me of Bama’s O-line last year in that the dogs will be a veteran line and barring more injuries they should have the cohesiveness and maturity to be dominating. This will definitely give Cox a leg up.
We’ve got a lot of talent on our Oline but it is a group that will lack the cohesiveness and senior leadership of last year’s group. I think we’ll be good there and will certainly improve as the season goes on but there will be a dropoff nonetheless. Keep in mind though that we have been stockpiling talent with 4 million straight no. 1 ranked recruiting classes!
Atlanta Gator
July 13th, 2009
4:34 pm
G8R GRAD—-Nah, 25 years later, it’s just a funny story to tell buddies over beers . . . but the incessant barking while I was trying to sleep?! The horror! The horror!
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4:36 pm
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Atlanta Gator
July 13th, 2009
4:38 pm
After 6 weeks of Tony’s summer vacation, I am just happy to be able to talk college football again. Nothing against the new guy over on the UGA Blog, but he’s not nearly as much fun as Chip Towers was. Chip had a passion for UGA sports, and, as a consequence, an appreciation for SEC rivals. I’m sure Bill King is a DGD and a helluva guy, but his column observations and insights always strike me as stating the obvious. So, I for one, am happy that Tony has returned. He’ll interact more later; he did earlier this year when he had more time on his hands.
Denver Dog
July 13th, 2009
4:40 pm
Hey Helluva engineer, nice language you use there buddy. It should be obvious what you are since you signed your name “loser”
Alabame looses to Fl Int, North Tex, and Chattanooga. After running through that tough part of the schedule, I’d say they lose to Miss State, LSU, and Auburn.
Thanks for the question
Otto
July 13th, 2009
4:41 pm
Tide, UGA and Bama remind me of each other. They both start with a OOC game that they should win but with a new team there will alway be question marks. The 4th year Juniors should be able to run the offense. The OLs should be a place of strength but like a new QB you never know how they’ll play until the game starts. I think both teams will be fine and at the end of the year Ole Miss, Bama, UGA and UF will be fighting for the SECCG, BCS at large bids, and most likely BCS championship game. UF is the clear class of the field but the other 3 could win just about any other conf.
Rebel Rouser
July 13th, 2009
4:41 pm
Tide Rising ..what do you know about historical patterns in football?
Sabans first year the Tide went 6-7 including the bowl game…the next year they went 7-6 including the bowl game and loss to La. Monroe, the third year they finally had a decent season but finished like idiots and embarrassed the Conference in the Sugar Bowl….And you tell us that according to historical patterns Tech should be better after their new coaches first year…hell… Bama wasn’t even better after Sabans first year and finished his third year at the school like a bunch of losers….you need to change your name from Tide Rising to Low Tide.I bet your hell with the stock market to!
Nachos
July 13th, 2009
4:43 pm
I love firing you mutts up! You guys are so darn predictable! ‘Til next time sore losers.
41-30
Motley Crue ‘09!
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
4:44 pm
buckblue,
So you don’t think the Bama game in Tuscaloosa will be very hard for LSU this year. This coming from a team that won all of 3 conference games last year, lost 3 great D lineman, 2 great Olineman, etc. So your qb has all of 2 qb starts under his belt and you think he’s all that now. You sure are getting a lot of mileage out of one game(Tech). Did your qb win the game before the Tech game against Arky?
You set a record attendance in your house for the bama game, the stadium was rocking and as loud as I’ve ever seen it and ya still lost. Visions of Julio dragging LSU defensive backs on his back.
I never did understand the LSU hatred of Saban. He left to go to the pros, didn’t like it, and when he decided to come back to college the bama job was open so he took it. So what’s with all the hate? Funny but Florida fans never seemed to have a problem with Spurrier coming back to South Carolina so why do you guys have such a problem with Saban?
Nice of you to be able to put on such a veneer of bravado in the face of what I feel is gonna be an out and out azzwhooping session in our favor. But LSU fans feel safer believing a lie that they will win this year in Tuscaloosa than knowing the truth of the imminent beatdown that lies in wait.
Nachos
July 13th, 2009
4:45 pm
I agree Atlanta Gator. The “junkyard blawg” is horrible. Lil Billy deletes any negative posts and bans anyone’s IP who dare talk bad about the mutts. Censorship sucks
Bama fans everywhwere
July 13th, 2009
4:46 pm
Nachos,
STFU. Your an embarrassment to the crimson nation.
Otto
July 13th, 2009
4:46 pm
Atlanta Gator, I agree with you on the UGA blog and Chip Towers.
AltamahaDawg
July 13th, 2009
4:46 pm
Cuz, if the gator bus gets stuck in traffic, obviously Tebow, simply picks it up and flies it over.
Gators mighty good, but the thing that always occurs to me when I hear somebody start the “might be the best ever in College Football” is that is a standard that is not likely to pan out.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
4:49 pm
Rebel rouser,
Are you just stupid?
Saban has been at Bama only 2 seasons, going 7-6 his first season with a bowl win over Colorado and then going 12-2 last year. The 2009 season will be his 3rd season. The 6-7 season you mention was Shula’s last season and the reason he got fired.
You are a blithering idiot!
Rebel Rouser
July 13th, 2009
4:56 pm
Hey Nachos…Mark Richts record against Alabama is 3-1 His record against Saban is 5-2……The last six times Georgia has faced Bama they are 6-1….Tell me who’s doing what to who trailer boy!
Florida Sux
July 13th, 2009
5:10 pm
anybody who thinks that florida will just run over georgia this year knows absolutely nothing about football. i bet most of you had no clue that last year georgia had 25 more total yards than florida in their game. georgia will be much better on offense this year thanks to a solid offensive line, better kicking game, much better d-line, and a quarterback who doesn’t overthrow every long ball to wide open receivers like Stafford was famous for.
bull-gator
July 13th, 2009
5:10 pm
Yeah the gators are loaded. No, they will not go undefeated. Yes, they will win the SEC East. No, they will not win the SEC Conference title game. Reasons: complacency, injuries, arrests, suspensions, poor execution, new oc, and biggest reason of all there is no Harvin to pull a rabbit out of the hat.
Scorekeeper
July 13th, 2009
5:12 pm
Rebel rouser,
Georgia beat Bama 3 of the last 4 with wins in 2002 by 2 pts, Georgia won decisively in 2003 , and Georgia won the overtime game in 2007 by 3 pts.
Bama won this past year and also won the previous 2 times the teams played in 1995 31-0 in Athens and 29-28 in the year before or year after the Athens shutout. So the teams have actually split the last 6 games.
Bama leads the overall series 36-25.
Scorekeeper
July 13th, 2009
5:20 pm
Rebel rouser and tide rising,
I just looked it up. Georgia has won 3 of the last 4, they have split the last 6, and bama has won 4 of the last 7. Not that any of that should matter to either of you.
It looks like Rebel rouser just makes things up as he goes along. Does not know the facts.
Fuzzy math
July 13th, 2009
5:24 pm
How does rebel rouser think georgia is 6-1 against the bammers in only 6 games.
Rebel Rouser
July 13th, 2009
5:25 pm
Scorekeeper…now why did you go and mess things up…I’ve been playing with Nachos all day…he’s so easy to mess with…. as are all the Bama fans….after all their team is god’s gift to college footabll!
Scorekeeper
July 13th, 2009
5:28 pm
Bama fans are funny and fun to mess with but it looks like you’re every bit as stupid as they are. Probably more stupid since you just make stuff up. Either you’re just dumb or dishonest because you clearly don’t know the facts. Which is it?
Helluva Engineer
July 13th, 2009
5:31 pm
Sit down Rebel Rouser …… Nachos owned you. Deal with it.
When was the last time Ole Siss beat Bama? Wasnt Franchione coaching and Denver Dog just graduated college from Dekalb??
I declare Rebel Rouser douche bag of the day. After they go 7-5 this season we wont hear from him until they are preseason SEC West Champions again.
If I were an Ole Siss fan I would hate Bama too. Can’t argue with that. Bama owns them worse than the Mutts of UGAY.
m
July 13th, 2009
5:31 pm
floriduh is not anything special but they play in a league with 11 dwarfs and play the weakest non-conference schedule in the nation to boot.
Then they get voted in to the BSbcs over much more deserving teams and win another fake championship.
We need a 16 team playoff so that nobody’s idiotic opinion counts…only what happens ON THE FIELD.
45-42….glad it hurts so bad…and it is only the beginning.
Helluva Engineer
July 13th, 2009
5:33 pm
Scorekeeper obviously needs to get a job and not sit around looking up stats all day.
Take your scorekeeping and sjove it up your as*.
Who else wants some??
Rabun Dawg
July 13th, 2009
5:35 pm
Just a thought, but UGA’s game with the Arkansas, sets up as a trap game for the Dawgs. After Ok St. ,USC(no, not the left coast one), this will be a tough one in Fayetteville. I personally see that as a much more compelling game to win than LSU in Athens. As much as I do not care for Petrino, his team can really play the role of a spoiler for many teams. Auburn in Athens looks dangerous also, home team hardly ever wins in that series. Oh me, with already losses given to us by UF, GT, OK St., maybe we should just not show up in ‘09? However, as has been said, ” that’s why they play the games!!
Helluva Engineer
July 13th, 2009
5:43 pm
Crickets…Crickets….Crickets…..
Gotta go mutts. Until next time!
Oh, yeah. Almost forgot….
45-42
41-30
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!
superDawg
July 13th, 2009
5:46 pm
GO DAWGS.Tee it up and Hunkerdown.
Otto
July 13th, 2009
5:47 pm
m, UF just pounds FSU every year. The ACC would be no problem it would just bring them down like FSU and UM.
It is a shame GT chickened out of the SEC long ago. They may have done better against UGA.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
5:47 pm
Helluva engineer,
You must be the board enforcer today. I reckon we best not piss you off. Rebel rouser just started getting all irate when I said I thought Tech would win 10 games. I’m guessing he’s a dawg fan on top of being an ole miss fan. Must be confused and can’t make up his mind.
Rabun Dawg,
Good observation. I see Arkansas as being a trap game and a spoiler in a couple of games this season not only against the dawgs but in the west in general. UGA handles LSU in Athens easily.
Anonymous
July 13th, 2009
5:53 pm
Little “m,”
If Florida is “not anything special,” well, good grief, what does that make Tech???
Seriously, your silliness knows no bounds.
Tony in Johns Creek
July 13th, 2009
5:56 pm
As a Dawg Alum I would say Georgia has a good shot to hang with Florida in Jax this year, because UGA has a week off to rest and prepare, as UF has Miss St, I believe. Even though the talent disparity is glaring, Dan Mullen could have the Starkville boys moving the ball on offense by then. I’d say UGA has as good a shot to stay with the Gators as LSU does, but with UF’s schedule, they have to go undefeated to play for the MNC. I’m betting they will see Ole Miss in Atlanta, which will be a good matchup. Snead is a very good QB and Nutt can coach some offense. Mississippi deserves the accolades. They beat UF and stayed with Bama ’til the end and totally dismantled an overhyped Tex Tech last year. They are impressive.
I’d say Georgia will have it’s hands full every week if teams double team AJ Greene. I’m worried the offense will be hampered if we don’t find answers outside of Greene.
Braindawg
July 13th, 2009
6:18 pm
Something to think about as far as UF repeating and winning it all. And I also hate to say it, but they more than likely will repeat as SEC champs. And with a few breaks, could win the NC again. But lets just say, wonder, what if…….Tebow goes down early in the season! Say he goes down after their two easy warm up games. Before they play a real team, back up comes in not ready…..could they lose then. Injuries can be a great equalizer. Nah, wont happen, their great, they’ll win them all…….But…… Just a thought!
Rebel Rouser
July 13th, 2009
6:18 pm
See…now I got you upset…I assure you that I know a lot more than either Nacho or you about college football…you sound like a Tech fan. If you check you’ll see that I am correct about Richt’s record (3-1)against Bama. The Bama series is tied 5-5 over the last ten meetings which dates back to 1984. So don’t preach to me Scorekeeper…I know the score.Go play with your Rubix cube and let me keep messing with these Bama fans.
Braindawg
July 13th, 2009
6:26 pm
PS- Not sure who their “real team” is, the third game they play, dont have their schedule in front of me. But you get my point. Unless your from GT, then you just dont get it! Go you Hairy Dawgs! Sic’em! lol
BE#3
July 13th, 2009
6:26 pm
Funny how Florida fans are quick to discount the loss of Harvin. He was the second leading rusher, second leading receiver and accounted for 17 TD’s, second on the team only to Tebow. Granted UF has other weapons but none are the same threat that Harvin was. Opposing defenses had to be prepared for Harvin to run routes and to rush the ball. UF does not have a receiver with the same rushing threat nor do they have a back with the size to run routes on a regular basis. Harvin was unique and was Tebow’s go-to guy. Tebow carries the ball more this year and his numbers and effectiveness go down which costs UF at least one big game in SEC play – which could make the difference between playing for the SEC title or not.
follow the money trail
July 13th, 2009
6:51 pm
What does reefer, GT and AL all have in common? They get smoked in bowls!
Real Gator Fan
July 13th, 2009
7:03 pm
Charlotte Gator. You said Florida would lose a lot on the OL and DL next year. Well, take a second look my friend. There is not one Senior on the OL. The two guards, the Pouncey twins, are jrs. The LOT, Johnson, is a Jr. The other tackle position has either Patchan (soph) or Gilbert (Jr.) The center position is Robey, a RSfr. All the backups are jrs, sophs, or fr. The DL will get hit at DE by the early entry of Dunlap (jr) and the loss of Cunningham, the only Sr in the group. The Gators have excellent depth on the DL and at DE. And they are hot on the trail of the best DE (Powell from California) in the nation. He knows if he comes to Gainesville he will soon be playing in the NFL like all the recent Gator DEs. And the Dawggirl, those other 118 teams, well they have taken a backseat to the Gators 2 out of the last 3 years. I see no reason for change in the Gators being one of the top 5 most dominating teams in college football over the coming years with Meyer at the helm. The talent level is certainly not decreasing. Meyer is not going anywhere. And the coaching, taining, and facilities are second to none. No, the Gators will not win the NC every year. That is impossible. And it will be a major challenge for them this year as well. But they will be mentioned almost every year at the beginning of the year as one of the teams you have to beat if you want to win the NC. You can’t ask for more than that.
dan
July 13th, 2009
7:12 pm
After seeing the 2007 New England Patriots( possibily the greatest NFL team ever assembled) lose to the New York Giants in the Super Bowl, I will never again say that a team is unbeatable.
Florida has a great team and a great program, but are they beatable? yes. I think the key to beating them is three fold:
1. Don’t let them get into your head: Oklahoma had the athletes to match up with Florida and kept them in check most of that game( they even picked off Tebow twice). But OC Josh Heibel and Bob Stoops gave the Florida defense WAY too much respect and got conservative in the passing game at the worst times. And because they got conservative, Florida was able to hang around and win the game. Which leads to my next point
2. Sustain drives/get points in the red zone: Alabama and Ole Miss were able to hang with Florida by dominating time of possession. Bama pounded the running game right at Florida, as did Oklahoma. Unfortunately, both got away from that game plan too soon and neither were able to cash in in the red zone. Teams can go north and south on the Gators defense, coaches just have to display some patience.
3. Be sound in you special teams: The Gators were great at blocking punts, field goals, and returning punts. This led to great field position for the offense and then the route was on. Sure up your special teams and you got a shot against the Gators.
buckblue
July 13th, 2009
7:18 pm
Tide Rising….who said anything about hating Nick Saban?….besides being a self centered arrogant me 1st person…I kind of like him.
The payroll tide beat LSU in OT last year after J Lee had wrapped a couple of early Christmas presnets for the criminal tide…That won’t happen this year…lets see how your new QB does….You do a good job in identifying what LSU lost to graduation….what about what they have coming back….? Did bama lose any players?? Get your facts straight and head out of Nicks….a@@.
Real Gator Fan
July 13th, 2009
7:26 pm
Response to Dan.
1. OU gave Florida’s defense too much respect. What? What game did you watch. They came out throwing and running and moved down the field. Then the Gators just shut them down in the red zone with take aways and just great defense. You better play conservative against Florida this year or their defense and offense will kill you.
2. I watched the SEC title and NC games. Both Alabama and Oklahmoa had difficulty sustaining the running game against Florida. They both would push the ball and then Florida would stand up and stop them when it was needed, especially in the 4th quarter when the Gators players were superior in conditioning to the other team. Florida just wore Bama and OU down in the fourth quarter.
3. Florida is too fast on special teams. Meyer coaches the special teams, and he is the best special teams coach in the country. He takes total pride in special teams. In fact, you earn the right to play for the Gators by excelling on special teams, both in practice and in games. Ask Joe Haden, Major Wright, Caros Dunlap and many others, all current starters on the Gator defense. Plus, James is the best kick returner in the nation and he is back for his senior year to terrorize in the kicking game.
4. You need to come up with better stuff than this to beat the Gators. You also forgot to mention, no one in the SEC has the talent to match the Gators in the combination of offense, defense, and special team players. They also have perhaps the best place kicker in the SEC and certainly the best punter in the SEC (he is also the best punter in the nation).
5. Yes, the Gators are beatable on a given Saturday (see Ole Miss). But you don’t beat the Gators by attacking their defense or beating them on special teams. Bad ideas.
Real Gator Fan
July 13th, 2009
7:35 pm
One other thing. Major Wright, against Oklahoma, set the tone by knocking OU’s #1 receiver into the third deck of the stadium when he thought he could just run down the sidelines. The OU receivers were ducking hits the rest of the game. Expect a lot more of that this year with Major Wright, Will Hill, and Ahmad Black in the deep secondary and Janoris Jenkins, Joe Haden, and Jeromy Brown (he may be better than both Haden and Jenkins) at the corners and dime positions. And the does not even include Marhike Anderson and Wondy Pierre-Louis, both former starters at the CB positions. Or Munroe (a former starter at strong safety). But you will see a lot of them on special teams. Imagine. Three former starters in the defensive backfield now playing special teams. That is how deep the Gators are on defense.
Skip Jacobs
July 13th, 2009
7:47 pm
I am amazed at how all the experts say that Florida has better talent than Georgia. Really, well
then I guess all those other experts who have ranked Georgia’s recruiting classes ahead of
Florida’s were wrong. Maybe my memory is off, but I am telling you the last 5yrs at least, Florida may have had 1 class ranked ahead of Georgia’s. If I am wrong, tell me. But if I am right, how is that they havethis supposedly huge talent edge over Ga.? The point is, they don’t. I didn’t hear about this huge edge this time last year?? Tony, I am not necessarily putting you in this category-but most sportswriters simply do not do their homework.
I can tell by the comments they make they don’t have a clue.
dawes
July 13th, 2009
7:48 pm
georgia to win the east and tech is embarrassing
tyler
July 13th, 2009
7:49 pm
I think Tennessee will suprise some people this year and will finish ahead of Georgia.
dawes
July 13th, 2009
7:51 pm
tyler you need your head check
FL Gator
July 13th, 2009
8:12 pm
I agree with Ohio State Fan with on the 9:23am post.
Florida has enough speed on Offense and Defense to repeat in a very tough conference of the SEC (and i’m not referring to the Securities and Exchanges Commission either).
Florida is thee definitive Number 1 Team not only in the SEC, but also Nationally ! !
Let’s face it, when you return every starter on defense, the chances of having an excellent are great. Charlie Strong deserves plenty of credit and respect (in which, he will get from me as a fan of Gator Nation) for getting the Gators Defense to be top notch.
Sorry Raider Nation, Florida has stolen you nation theme away from you and keeping it for so many years. If you want that theme back, get back to being an excellent Football Team dang blast it ! !
As for you UGA, if you want your SEC East Title from Florida, you’re just going to have to try to take it from us (which i don’t see happening). Basically i’m saying, Bring it on ! !
As far as Lame Kitten (Lane Kiffin) goes, expect to get rolled up like Yesterday’s Newspaper as Florida will whoop your behinds!
In honesty, The game at LSU is not going to be easy. If there is a game where Florida could be had, it’s at LSU in October. By the results in ‘07, i’m not calling it an Undefeated Season for Florida at this point. We’ll just take it 1 Game at a time.
Florida is possessing plenty of swagger and is not afraid to use it, Period ! !
dan
July 13th, 2009
8:13 pm
Real Gator Fan
Yes OU gave Florida too much respect: When Sam Bradford is looking to the sidelines to get the play in virtually every play, then yes you are giving your opponent too much respect. This goes back to my point of not letting your opponent get in your head. If you go into a game thinking ” Gosh if we make one mistake against this team, they’ll kill us”, then you’re beaten before you even begin.
I’m not saying the Gators don’t play great defense because they do. And I’m not saying that you can get careless, because then you’ll get blown out( see UGA game). But you don’t beat a team like Florida by hoping they get complacent. You beat them by taking the fight to them.
To use the 2008 Super Bowl as an example: if the Giants went into that game saying ” Gosh if we blitz Tom Brady and the Patriots, they pick us apart with all their great weapons” then they would have gotten blown out. But instead their mentality was ” Screw it! We’re going to put Brady on his GQ ass!”. And low and behold, they won the game.
If you play not to lose against a team like New England or Florida, then you surely will.
southgadawg88
July 13th, 2009
8:21 pm
…..I am sick of all this FLA is the best defense ever crap..Different year brings different scenarios..The Gator D looks great when their Offense is able to control the game.I remember in 07 the gator D sucked with basically the same players they have now!!That super secondary you guys talk about was getting toasted by EVERY team they played..same guys playing now.Tebow wore down in 07 and the gators were not able to sustain drives the way the had in 06 and like they did in 08.This year without Harvin,Louis and any WR with experience they will lean more on Tebow running the ball which will lead once again to him taking a lot of hits slowing him down again.Their D looks nasty when they have field position on there side which comes from moving the ball effectively on Offense.Mark my words..that incredible Defense wont look so great by year’s end because the Offense will struggle this year.No WR’s,very small RB’s,I’m not fearing FLA at all.Don’t be shocked if the mighty Gator drop 2 games this year.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
8:28 pm
buckblue,
I see you got some good excuses for losing this year in front of the biggest tiger stadium crowd in history. So what’s your excuse for losing the other 4 conference games.
Let’s see now. What does that make Bama’s record in the dreaded tiger stadium over the last 40 years since 1969. Could it be something like 20-2 since 1969. I know we had an unbeaten streak of 19 games between 1969 and 2004 when, ironically Saban finally beat us. Tacking on yet another win in tiger stadium which is our home away from home runs the tally to something like 20-2.
Tide Rising
July 13th, 2009
8:35 pm
Rebel Rouser,
Are you just being stupid again. I thought you said Georgia was 6-1 against bama in the last 6 games. How that could be is amazing. 6-1 in 6 games. Man are you stupid!
But now you say its 5-5 over the last 10 games which is in fact correct. Glad to see you can get something correct once in a blue moon. No one is disputing that CMR is 3-1 against Bama.
One more thing idiot. Are you still convinced that Saban has coached 3 seasons at Bama and was 6-7 his first year or has your dumbazz finally realized that Saban has only coached there for 2 full seasons?
Slowly but surely I will bring you out of your shell of profound freaking ignorance.
mexdawg
July 13th, 2009
9:27 pm
Georgia’s formula for winning the national title.Bring back Dooley to coach us v Fl and let CMR coach the rest.Dooley still strikes fear in the gators.LET THE BIG DAWG EAT.
BS Patrol
July 13th, 2009
9:34 pm
Can someone please interpret what dawes is saying? On second thought, nevermind.
jumbeauxtiger
July 13th, 2009
9:44 pm
Tide Rising,
“Nice of you to be able to put on such a veneer of bravado in the face of what I feel is gonna be an out and out azzwhooping session in our favor. But LSU fans feel safer believing a lie that they will win this year in Tuscaloosa than knowing the truth of the imminent beatdown that lies in wait.”
Why wouldn’t we feel good about our chances this year? It took all you could to beat our 3-5 squad last year and look what we have done at your place recently. LSU has won 5 of the last 6 in Tuscaloosa including 4 in a row there? The Tigers have also won 8 of the last 10 overall against the Tide.
Actually I like Nick. Perhaps your hatred of LSU is showing
Geaux Tigers
Go SEC
UKFAN
July 13th, 2009
9:49 pm
Everyones sayin that UK will be last—- wowwww that isnt biased. UK has been to 3 straight bowl games and won all 3. Tennessee fans might as well not even expect an awesome season (u arent goin to pull a kentucky NIT to NC), And Im sorry but florida will not run the tables, they will lose like they did last year against a team that should have a W stamped on them. Everyone expects for the 4,5,and 6 teams to be automatic W’s and that wont happen. Im tired of everyone hatin on UK. They have the best recruitin class since Brooks has been there and will still have a spectacular defense and their offense will also be better. But what Im saying is that UGA isnt the only challenger for Florida and they better realize it or they will be bit in the butt again
btw Tebow is one of the most overated players in the game today
dan
July 13th, 2009
10:28 pm
UKFAN,
I agree. Kentucky has won 3 bowl games and Brooks has recruited some studs the last few years. Neither Kentucky or Vanderbilt are the easy outs they used to be. Heck I might predict a Kentucky win over Tennessee this year.
dan
July 13th, 2009
10:34 pm
As for Tennessee,
I too think they will be better this year. Their home schedule is winnable and I’m calling for an upset of either Ole Miss or Bama. They’ll lose to Florida and maybe UGA, but it’s very possible for the Vols to finish 9-3 or 8-4 this year.