It’s time to be honest about the BCS


Today at 2:30 p.m. a Senate Judiciary subcommittee will hold a hearing entitled: “The Bowl Championship Series: Is it Fair and in Compliance with Antitrust Law?”

 Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah),  you’ll  be shocked to hear, believes that the 12-0 (which later became 13-0) team from Utah was denied the opportunity to play for the national championship by the BCS system, which picks two teams to play for the title after the regular season. In a Sports Illustrated story last week, Hatch called the BCS “biased” and claimed that it “probably” violates antitrust laws.

This is the second time this year representatives of college athletics have been hauled before Congress for a dog and pony show to score cheap political points with the folks back home. Earlier it was Rep. Joe Barton of Texas (sense a trend here?), who called the BCS “communist.”


Here is the problem I have with this entire exercise. If you want to have four-team, eight-team or 16-team playoff to decide college football’s national championship, then let’s have that argument. I, for one, would like to see a four-team playoff where the teams are seeded 1-4. And if the Rose Bowl is willing to play ball (and that’s a big IF), there is a possibility that gets done when the new BCS contract begins in the 2014 season.


What I don’t like is that in criticizing the BCS, and there is a lot to legitimately criticize, those who want change show that they have not done their homework. In the interest of creating a memorable sound bite or quote, the critics show an incredible amount of intellectual dishonesty, or total lack of knowledge, about what the BCS is and is not and what it has done and hasn’t done for post-season college football.


Again, I’m not a blind supporter of the BCS. There is change that I want. But here are a few facts:


Fact: Utah was not DENIED a chance to play for the BCS national championship. Utah had as much a chance to play for the BCS title as any other school. But 175 people voted in the Harris Interactive and coaches polls, two of the three components in the BCS formula. The 114 people in the Harris poll voted Utah seventh. The 61 coaches in the USA Today poll also voted Utah seventh and no coach—NONE—voted Utah higher than No. 5. Of the 114 people who voted in the Harris Poll only five voted Utah No. 5 or better.

Fact: Even the coaches in Utah’s league, the Mountain West, did not step up for the Utes when it counted. Joe Glenn of Wyoming had Utah at No. 5. Rocky Long of New Mexico and Gary Patterson of TCU had them at No. 7. Kyle Whittingham, Utah’s own coach, had his team at No. 5.

So where was all the love for Utah BEFORE they played Alabama in the Sugar Bowl? The fact is that while Utah deserved to win because the Utes flat outplayed the Crimson Tide (who didn’t want to be there), it wasn’t until AFTER the Sugar Bowl that Utah became this incredible juggernaut which should have been given the chance to play for it all.


Fact: For all of the flaws of the BCS, the fact is that it has provided bowl opportunities that the supposedly aggrieved schools had never had in the past. How many times had Utah played in the Sugar Bowl before the BCS? How many times had Hawaii played in the Sugar Bowl before the BCS? How many times had Boise State played in a New Year’s Day bowl before the BCS? If you answered zero to all three questions you’d be right. “The fact of the matter is that the BCS has given access to those conference that they never had before,” said former SEC Commissioner Roy Kramer, considered to be the godfather of the BCS. “Look at the history of the major bowls. They had almost never invited one of those teams before the BCS.”


Fact: The original BCS agreement that was put together back in 1998 never would have happened unless the champions of those six “equity” conferences (ACC, SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, Pac-10) had been promised automatic slots.

“Those conferences already had automatic bowl bids. We (in the SEC) had a long standing agreement with the Sugar Bowl,” said Kramer. “There is no way that those conferences were going to give that up without a guaranteed slot. And remember that we were working with four bowls and those were the conferences they were used to dealing with.”

The fact is that the free marketplace determined that those six conferences would get automatic bids and there were at-large spots made available to teams that could play their way in. Maybe you believe that market forces have no place in college athletics, but that is how it happened. It wasn’t a conspiracy to keep the other teams out. It was the only way to get the deal done.


Fact: While the six equity conferences do get an automatic bid and the $18 million payday that comes with it, the five Coalition Conferences (Conference USA, MAC, WAC, Mountain West, Sun Belt) have placed a team in the BCS in four of the past five seasons. Those five conferences get an automatic $9.5 million for participating and another $9.5 million when they place a team in a BCS game. So over the past five seasons the BCS has pumped about $80 million into those five Coalition conferences.

 That’s a lot of money that did not even exist before the advent of the BCS. Should the Coalition Conferences get more? Yes, and I believe they will. I also believe that in the future the conferences will be able to get more than one team in the BCS if they have two teams in the Top 10.

All of this leads us to a final fact about the BCS:

Fact: The BCS does not violate antitrust law and this Senate committee knows it.  I’ve spoken to a number of top antitrust lawyers, including Tom Rhodes of Smith, Gambrell & Russell here in Atlanta. They all agreed that the BCS may not be popular with some college football fans but it does not violate the law—at least as the law is currently written and interpreted by the courts.

“The original agreement was put together by a group of antitrust lawyers and has been reviewed several times since,” said Kramer. “Now there are some political problems that the BCS must deal with but when it comes to the law, unless it gets interpreted in a totally different way, the BCS should be on solid ground.”

The fact of the matter is that whether or not you like the BCS, and a lot of folks don’t, it created something that didn’t exist before: A mechanism to match the No. 1 and the No. 2 team for the national championship. It also increased bowl revenues exponentially because it created something of value to the television networks. It also has access points for the teams in the Coalition Conferences. All they have to do is finish in the Top 12 of the final BCS standings.

Again, if you want a playoff, then let’s have that discussion. But bashing the BCS is like bashing the IRS. It’s easy. The fact is that with all of its flaws, it’s better than what we used to have. I remember Georgia Tech having to play in the Citrus Bowl in 1990 to win its national championship. I remember No. 2 Penn State not getting a shot at No. 1 Nebraska in 1994. I remember No. 2 Texas not getting a shot at No. 1 Nebraska in 1983.

The system is going to change because the marketplace is going to eventually demand it, not because Congress is going to push to make its constituents happy. And that’s a fact.


270 comments Add your comment


July 7th, 2009
4:27 pm

Tony is part of the BCS. He votes on the rank of the teams that is a large part of how these teams get into the house in the first place. Any other article would have a disclaimer that let you know the real bias is the press that has a dog in the hunt. Imagine basketball being decided by this same group of non academics that group around one idea like it was a religion quiet often turning fiction into an event. Take all the articles written last year about Carolina and see if any of the “in the know” doctors of hot wind would have UNC above three or four Big East teams. The other thing always left out of these briefs is the new effect of parity on college football. Wearing a certain football uniform doesn’t guarantee an outcome anymore. It just became that way a few years ago and maybe in full bloom with the Alabama, Utah game, and it will take time to set in. The Bear and 200 all state football players against some cow college does not exist like it use to. Not unlike the USA basketball team playing third world nations and then celebrating like the war was over in Time Square. One of the problems with this nation is it likes to look like winners more than be winners or why would we cheat so much.

Tide Rising

July 7th, 2009
4:28 pm


My politics are to the right of Attila the Hun


July 7th, 2009
4:29 pm

Whoever wins the BCS Championship is a “Paper” Champion. On “Paper”, Alabama should’ve dominated Utah. On “Paper”, a few years ago Oklahoma should’ve dominated Boise State. On the Field, it was a different story. Who wouldn’t have wanted to see USC vs Florida last year? The playoff system is the only way to determine a true champion. The Bowl system in it’s archaic ways and the money / tradition involved is causing all this political BS. People argue that the kids should be in school during the playoffs, so does that mean the kids in the other divisions of collegiate football don’t matter? People argue that it would put less meaning on the regular season games. So are the regular season games in the NFL meaningless because of a playoff system? Will Georgia – Florida mean less because there’s a playoff system in place? No, like the BCS, it’s all BS. Until there’s a solid MONEY solution that’ll please the schools and BOWLS to go through this Political BS, thing’s won’t change. Don’t try to dodge it, and go straight to the root of it.


July 7th, 2009
4:36 pm


right of Attila the Hun? Will you run for office? The PC, tree huggers we have now annoy me.

IMO Auburn ‘04 changed the scheduling practices of several schools especially those looking for respect like UGA. It also helped form the Chik Fil A kick off classic. I am surprised USC is slacking off on their schedule after the series with Ohio St ends this year. If you’re in a BCS conf with an automatic birth why bother scheduling big OOC games?

The Grinch

July 7th, 2009
4:36 pm

To Tide Rising

Then that means your politics are in my neighborhood. We definitely have something in common. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


July 7th, 2009
4:40 pm

USC vs UF last year? If that happened not only would Utah be fighting for a playoff but they would also be fighting to get the PAC10 replaced in the BCS with the MWC.


July 7th, 2009
4:44 pm

I think our elected representatives should be allowed to handle BCS issue. Look how well they did with the MLB players and steriods!


July 7th, 2009
4:54 pm

Man some of you on here post on this board all day. Guess you have no lifes at all. Sad

Supersize that order, mutt

July 7th, 2009
5:02 pm

Damn, Grinch, we are in agreement again. What’s this f**ng world coming to?

(BTW, I just through in that obscenity to get a reaction from you….LOL)

Supersize that order, mutt

July 7th, 2009
5:03 pm

Greg….LIFES ??? Maybe you should spend more of your life in school. LOL

Supersize that order, mutt

July 7th, 2009
5:05 pm

OOPS, dammit, I did it to. That should have been “I threw in that obscenity,” not “I through in that obscenity.” Oh, well, nobody’s perfect. LOL


July 7th, 2009
5:05 pm

Tony-ignore m he is mad about the gay pride parade may be cancelled this year.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 7th, 2009
5:06 pm

DAMMIT, I did it again. “TOO”, not “TO.” I guess it IS time for me to get a life.


July 7th, 2009
5:12 pm

Are you still counting the last UPI poll in 1990 as a national title for the Wreck? Come on– the AP was the real championship that year!

Put Utah in the SEC East this year and let Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, or South Carolina play in the Mountain West. If Utah goes 12-1, let them play for the title. But if any of the four SEC powers goes 12-0 out there, they can either play for the crown or like Utah, cry on Orrin Hatch’s knee.


July 7th, 2009
5:18 pm

(college presidents and tv executives) The american people are stupid. We know what is best. Besides, we are making loads of cash here….leave us alone, you dumb college football lemmings, and go back to your ESPN….that will put them in a zombie like trance and make them do what we want.

(sports media) The average college football fan is stupid. They can’t even understand the incredible 5,000 word arguement I just wrote promoting the BCS. Besides, I get to decide who wins the national championship. Why should I change that? But, in the meantime, let me keep justifying this silliness…..that will keep the college football watching lemmings at bay….lets distract them with our arguements….that will make them do what we want.

(united states senators) The american people are stupid. They don’t like us right now, so we need to do something so that we can win re-election in 2010. Let’s get them fired up about college football so we can distract them and raise their taxes (and our salaries) some more. Then, when it’s time to vote, we will tell them how we saved college football and that the other party is full of money loving greedy people or liberal commies who want to impose socialism. That will make them do what we want.

do you see a pattern here? I do….and it is pretty scary.

Class of '98

July 7th, 2009
5:37 pm

Tony, I know you’re not going to read this becuase it is about 463rd on the reply list, but this column is DAGGUM SHAKESPEAREAN!!!!!

This is why you are the best in the business.

Supersize that order, mutt

July 7th, 2009
6:03 pm

SuperB, tell it to the NCAA. They recognize Tech as co-champion in 1990. Go take a look at the crystal in the trophy case too, if you have any dobut. You will see that it’s the same trophy awarded now to the BCS champion. Tech was 11-0-1, and Colorado was 11-1-1, with one of their wins coming as a result of a referee giving them a 5th down, and one win (Orange Bowl) coming because a referee called a phantom clip on what would have been Notre Dame’s winning TD run. Tech should have been unanimous champion, but I’ll settle for shared, and regardless of what fools like you think, it’s REAL.


July 7th, 2009
6:42 pm

“Again, if you want a playoff, then let’s have that discussion. But bashing the BCS is like bashing the IRS.”

Not even close!


July 7th, 2009
8:07 pm

From some of these comments, I’m afraid that many college football fans are the kind that would vote for George W. again or (God help us), Sarah Palin. Unbelievable.


July 7th, 2009
8:11 pm

Has college football become NASCAR ? Or has it been that all along ? God, I hope not. If so, I’m outta here.


July 7th, 2009
8:12 pm

Bulldawg writer,

once again Barnhart you fail to mention money when the BCS is mentioned. The BCS is strictly a business or cash cow for a select few conferences. I’m a SEC fan and like that we get a huge chunk but I have to admit this isn’t fair. Even if a Boise St makes the cash bowl it’s conference gets little money compared to ACC or SEC. This is why Congress will end up getting involved. The BCS has a track record of stall-stall-stall at every chance and never be honest. I look forward to the day the BCS is blown apart.


July 7th, 2009
8:37 pm

The present BCS is a joke!

The Joke Next to Coke is Broke

July 7th, 2009
9:01 pm

Why don’t you use your vast financial resources and make a donation to the North Avenue Trade School? You guys are nearly bankrupt at Tech and everybody knows it. You talk like you have some money. (I am sure you are all talk and probably only make about $60,000 a year). Things are so bad at Yech you guys had to hire an outside firm to market the sale of seats at Bobby Dodd. Nowhere else in the country is this the case. Desperate times call for desperate measures. CPJ is a good coach, but the dilemma is that his success will spell his departure from Nerdville. No coach worth a darn hangs around the Joke Next To Coke (See Bill Curry, Bobby Ross, George O’Leary, …..boy this list goes on and on). DRad has to regret leaving LSU for the debacle known as Tech. Be a good fan and support the cause. And remember to take your handgun to the games this year. You may need it. See you in November at Booby Dodd. It may the ONLY time your stadium is full this year.

Yours Truly,
Wes (I am a Beachball with Arms) Durham

Supersize that order, mutt

July 7th, 2009
9:38 pm

First of all, Bill Curry was not a good coach, and Tech didn’t lose anything when he left. Second of all, a winning team makes money, and I have total faith in CPJ and D-Rad. Thirdly, I don’t know where you get the idea that Tech is broke. If that were so, D-Rad could not have increased CPJ’s salary to what is either the highest or second-highest in the ACC. Of course, we could not have increased Hewitt’s either, but that was obviously a BIG mistake. I have no idea why an outside firm was hired to sell tickets; that definitely seems like a waste to me. However, I doubt that Tech is the only school in the country who does that. As far as my giving to Tech, I have been giving to Tech, both to the alumni fund and the athletic fund since I graduated. I am retired now and don’t have the resources I once had, but that does not stop me from both contributing and buying season tickets. What I earned is none of your business, but I can assure you it was more than enough to meet my needs, plus some. Do you even earn an income, and do you either provide support for or buy season tickets for whatever school you support, or are you just a bandwagon, sidewalk fan with no education?

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July 7th, 2009
10:49 pm

BANK WALKER….., it sure sounds as though you really, really hate black people! but not as long as they can win football games for ya huh! jesse jackson and al sharpton are the same color as those players you cheer for on sats. but hate the rest of the week, or do you actually think those players vote rethublican(or in other words; conmen extroadiniare). just use em’ for what they’re worth, but hate their mommas and daddys?


July 7th, 2009
11:03 pm

Denver Dawg, was the BCS around in 1990? Until there is a playoff system, there will ALWAYS be debating and complaining from the teams that are feeling left out…. Of course, with the tone of all of these posts; we’d argue anyway! LET’S JUST GET THE SEASON STARTED!!!

Sam Houston

July 7th, 2009
11:25 pm

To Obama
The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer; a sarcastic way of saying that because of the system the power conferences and schools will always be at the top and the smaller conferences and schools will always be at the bottom. We have always voted on the teams that can compete for a national championship. It has never been settled on the field. The smaller colleges don’t have a problem playing for a national championship. It would just be nice to see a level playing field and everyone have a shot, those who qualified, at WINNING and not be VOTED a national champion.

Denver Dog

July 7th, 2009
11:48 pm

The only people that want the Feds involved are those fans of teams who can not make it without help from outsiders. Major conferences generate a lot of revenue for the smaller conferences through the BCS bowls.

The BCS program is not perfect, it is evolving. If we insist on having lesser teams playing in big bowls, the audience will subside, and so will the money. All schools in the NCAA benefit from the money from those bowls.

I believe that June Jones brought his Hawaii team into New Orleans in 2008, and got stomped.
Boise upset Oklahoma on the last play of the game trick play in 2007. Utah beat Bama soundly in 2009. The computers and the voters have some sense about who is good and who is great.

Supersize, I looked back on the blog thread for your name, and you always attack UGA, just as you did today. If you are so smart, do you not thinkg that we can trace back and see how many negative comments you have made on these blogs. I graduated from college 35 years ago, and I can figure that out.So go moonwalking, I met John Young, he is a nice man, enjoy your Coke, owned by UGA grads, and keep paying money to all those UGA people that are your bosses. You look good in your PJ’s in your mom and stepdads basement.

Tech is still on probation, they comitted Academic Fraud two years ago, and are like you A TOTAL FRAUD. Osama Bin Laden recent recuriter for the Tech Grads

Whopper Dawg

July 7th, 2009
11:49 pm


You are so full of it, it is coming out of your ears. Your facts are laughable, no team outside of the BSC conferences have a chance in hell of playing for the championship next year no matter what happens, unless one goes undefeated against what is perceived as quality outside of conference play and every BCS team has two losses and that may not get it done.

The bottom line is money and that they can get away with it. You may have talked to top attorneys, but there are other interpretations of the law. It will end up in the hands of Congress or in court and it should.

A playoff can be done, should be done and it will be light years better than this crap and you can still protect your precious regular season, in fact I think the playoffs will make the regular season better, because now you can win head to head and still be voted out (Texas/Oklahoma last year). so you tell me what the regular season counts for?????? It isn’t wins or loses, it is opinion, and only opinion. The only valid arguments the BSC disciples have is 1) sometime we think it matches the two best teams (it is debatable if that has every happened) and 2) we aren’t going to change anyway, so stick it up your rear.

Everyone knows it is money, everyone knows it can be done and everyone knows they won’t, so keep your facts to yourself.

The people losing are the fans, who by the way, pay for the whole thing.

Denver Dog

July 7th, 2009
11:51 pm

Macro, no there wasn’t a BCS as we know it 1990. Tech did what they had to do to get the share that they got. However, there were major bowls then, and Tech chose not to play in one, or were not invited.

Denver Dog

July 7th, 2009
11:54 pm

Macro, isn’t that at least half of the fun, debating about who should be the MNC. It still is the MNC, and Florida did what it needed to do to win it. USC, UTAH, Texas, they all had a right to complain, but they did not do what they needed to do to win the MNC

Tony Blowhard

July 8th, 2009
12:31 am

I love to be on my knees for the BCS!

Georgia Tech Trivia

July 8th, 2009
12:36 am

The all time leading rusher for our football team is a convicted CHILD MOLESTER!


July 8th, 2009
12:53 am

Rules for being the national chumps, i mean champs:

1. You must be good MULTIPLE years in a row. No cinderella stories allowed here.

2. If your not ranked in the top 5 in the preseason……you have NO chance! Dosent matter if you go undefeated, might as well plan your trip to the bowl.

3. All thoughts of a fair playoff system must be pushed aside so that we may continue to see .500 teams play infront of 500 fans in something called a “bowl”. Which is nothing more than an excuse for the chumps on the winning team to jump up and down like mokeys yelling “were # 1″ when in reality there ranked 40th.

After all…. clearly people like tony realize that football players are more sensitive and emotionally retarded compared to other athletes, so it might hurt their feelings if they dont get rewarded for mediocrity with a free tshirt and chic fillet coupon at the end of the year. After all….. this is peewee, i mean college football… where ALL the little kids get a trophy at the end of the year!

Thank God im from a city that offers REAL Sports!! Go Braves, Falcons and GT Hoops!!
I root for GT and UGA in football, but i often find myself thinking… whats the point? You loose 1 game and the season is prettymuch pointless. Heck even if you go undefeated theres STILL a 50-50 chance the season was pointless. Just ask Utah, Auburn and Boise State.


July 8th, 2009
2:07 am

Today’s issue was one of antitrust. It would have been nice to see a few more comments pertinent to this topic. I suppose this would have been asking too much.


July 8th, 2009
2:28 am

Denver Dog, I don’t mind debating…tis the reason for posting on these blogs, though I do feel that the ‘debating’ on here can be silly (Obviously, I don’t mind it…I jump in often). However, the issue of national championships should be more genuine. After march madness, you rarely hear much about the validity of the national champion. Since the beginning of ncaa football, there has always been debates about the ‘true’ national champions. It’s time to come up with better answers than the ones that we’ve settled for…. I don’t see how anything other than a playoff system can be of value regarding the ‘true’ national championship. Braves Fan 79, well spoken! Miles, it is too much to ask.


July 8th, 2009
3:28 am

Get rid of all sports and we won’t have anything to argue about here.


July 8th, 2009
3:34 am

I heard that during the muggings at Tech, the theives took the wallets but left each victim 200 Tech football tickets and a diploma.

Is that the Bobby Dodd Stadium North Stands Men’s Room leaning downhill or is the football field leaning uphill?

The Dude

July 8th, 2009
4:19 am

Your article follows the same argumental style that whites in power used back in the days when arguing that it already was a great achievement to let blacks ride inte the bus, but they by no means should expect equal sitting rights as white have. Du bist ‘n riesen Arschloch!


July 8th, 2009
6:13 am

Answer this if the BCS is truly looking for a champion and not just to line their pockets: WHY DOES EVERY OTHER SPORT PRO AND COLLEGE HAVE A PLAYOFF SYSTEM???…Let’s just have the Dodgers and Red Sox play the World Series now…OR Next season the Lakers and Cavs or NO NCAA basketball tourney just have Kentucky and UCLA, no NFL playoffs….Giants and Pats look good…How idiotic would that be?


July 8th, 2009
6:58 am

This will be my first, last, and ONLY time that I’ll ever comment on the farce that is Division-1 football (coughing)… The BCS is a cartel For those of you who don’t know what that means look up the definition and the resulting actions of such an association. Hatch is right about one thing, it is so afar of any part of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act that it is only a matter of time before it implodes!
The problem is not that teams like Utah did not support from a flawed calculating system or the pieces used within it. The problem is that weighting of that system is inherently biased. The fact that Alabama was even in the mix shows just as much.

“Equity Conferences?” One of the five pieces of what defines “equity” is a concept called “fairness of law.” This cartel bears none. An “equity” is also an asset minus a liability. Barnhart routinely continues to treat the rest of the non-BCS and the other members of the NCAA as a liability. The BCS schools choose to be a cash cow, that is what cartels do! Stop complaining about supporting your framework when it is the thing that you created…. They (the BCS schools) wanted this form of athletic “apartheid,” now live with facts of being a master and not the slave…

Until the BCS schools join the reality of the rest of college sports, it leaves itself as a cartel which has existed at the favor of the National legislative body: Congress. The same goes for Major League Baseball. The NFL and NBA have always seen the folly in this, that is they have never tried to get a anti-trust exemption. Now you tell me which are more profitable in terms of equity? It is not even a contest…. Time to give up the “plantation system.”

Highlander Prof

July 8th, 2009
7:53 am

Your statement “In the interest of creating a memorable sound bite or quote, the critics show an incredible amount of intellectual dishonesty, or total lack of knowledge,” shows why our federal government is in the process of failing. This statement applies to everything they do.

But back to football… I was a playoff kind of guy for years. I think I’m in with the people who want to go back to bowl games without the BCS. The season has become too long…


July 8th, 2009
8:01 am

The problem with a 4- or 8-team playoff is that it would remain at 4 or 8 teams for about 3 years before the media and all the whiners began complaining that the field needs to be expanded. They’d go to 16, then that wouldn’t be good enough, and then it’d be just like college basketball, where the regular season is all but meaningless. Basketball has 64 teams, for God’s sake, and still you have the Vitales and others whining about some team that got left out. The unpopular truth is this: The BCS is the best system college football has ever had and it produces more consistently a deserving national championship than a playoff does. The NBA has a playoff, and two years ago the Hawks made it in at seven games under .500 while teams with winning records sat at home. What a great system that is!


July 8th, 2009
8:16 am

I watch almost no bowl games because of the BCS system. Simply terrible system. They are all just exibition games.

Denver Dog

July 8th, 2009
8:21 am

Any time the word trust and politicians are linked together, we should all be putting our hands upon our wallet, wearing garlic around our neck, and carry a cane with a silver handle

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July 8th, 2009
8:30 am

Tony your argument stinks…….

Frankly we have yet to have a real champion in college football……..When a team can go through a playoff system and win then they will be the champs.

Funny all the other divisions in college football have a playoff, and so all I can say it is all about money and posturing period.

How many times has a great team in the regular season lost in the NFL playoffs ?

How many times has a Wild card team won the Super Bowl ? Many !

So no matter what you say, without a playoff system, we will NEVER know who the true champion is !

hey cltdog

July 8th, 2009
8:35 am

tony mentioned a trend wrt the politicing. you correctly mention politics but you need to go one step further…..

both guys who wanted a hearing were…. ta da boom REBUPLICANS.

teaparties, sucksession, is obama a citizen, having affairs with latin women by the same hypocrite that insisted clinton resign, investigating the bcs bowls, trying to keep al franken from his seat in congress, having a total hands off approach to the countries woes, quiting their govenorship when the heat is on, refusing to take stimulus money unless its for sprucing up the govenors digs, keeping the banks and stock brokers from having to answer to congress, maintaining the status quo for the drug companies and insurance companies wrt health care……

these are all currently on the REPUBLICAN ajenda. hint!


a party currently led by sarah point guard palin, rush oxicontin limbaugh and of course that political giant… joe the plumber. ouch!

The Grinch

July 8th, 2009
9:29 am

To hey cltdog

So how’s all that “hope and change” working out for you? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!