Does the Prez even UNDERSTAND the BCS?

 

Once again it is Fearless Friday, Memorial Day Edition. This is where you are free to sound off on any topic, even if it’s non football related.

On a programming note: We’re going to take a break for the holiday weekend and will rejoin you on Tuesday for the annual SEC Meetings in Destin. Given some of the stuff that has happened among the league’s football coaches since national signing day, that first coaches meeting should be a lot of fun.

 

Until then, here are five burning questions to ponder. Feel free to talk among yourselves:

Does President Obama even UNDERSTAND the BCS? The new president is a pretty smart man but Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany recently told USA Today: “He’s a scholar and a lawyer and a great politician. But I don’t think he understands the complexity of the issue.”

  

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2009-05-20-jim-delany-obama-bcs_N.htm

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, it gets better.

“It’s very hard to be disagreeable with a popular president, that’s my first thought. The reality is that he has a pulpit and people listen. I think his strength is probably basketball brackets.”

What does this mean? It’s simple. For the longest time the conference commissioners who make up the BCS have simply been on defense. They were convinced—and still are—that the law is on their side.

But we are in a totally different political climate now where having the law on your side may not be enough. So this is another example of the BCS starting to go on offense. Stay tuned.

 

Does the transfer rule need to be changed?  Former Miami quarterback Robert Marve has announced that he will transfer to Purdue instead of Tennessee. Marve started 11 of 13 games last season for Miami but left the program. One of the factors that pushed Marve to Purdue was that if he attended Tennessee he would have to pay his own way for the 2009-2010 academic year. Why? It’s because Miami would not release him from his scholarship to play for any ACC or SEC team.  And if a school doesn’t officially release a player, he cannot receive an athletic scholarship from another Division I-A school for a year.

 That rule needs to be changed. I still believe that players transferring from one Division I-A school to another should have to sit out a year. But if the kid is willing to sit out a year, I don’t believe his old school should be able to restrict where he transfers. The scholarship contract is already one-sided enough in favor of the school.

What do you think?

 

Are coaches are going to have to take furloughs, too? Here’s a good piece of reporting by Glenn Guilbeau of the Gannett News Service about how universities, like a lot of businesses, are dealing with tough economic times by asking employees to take furloughs of one or two weeks. Arizona State, Clemson, Maryland and Utah are among the schools that have already implemented furloughs. Others will surely follow.

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20090518/SPORTS/90517019/1006

There may be some debate about what coaches will be required to do if their university implements furloughs. But if they are smart the coaches won’t say a word and will “donate” a week’s salary to the cause. Politically, you can’t have the academic side struggling to survive and have the athletic side not pitching in to do its part.

 LSU’s Les Miles, for example, makes $3.751 million per season as the head football coach. But it is logical that he would have to donate only from this base pay of $300,000, which is the only part paid by the university. The rest comes from other sources.

 

Does Lane Kiffin deserve a break on the Twitter NCAA violation? Yes. Like all of the football coaches who now have Twitter accounts, Kiffin has somebody to do the actual Tweeting for him.  An employee on his first day posted a reference to J.C. Copeland, a defensive end from LaGrange who had just verbally committed to sign with Tennessee next February. That’s a no-no by NCAA rules. You can’t mention recruits by name until they sign on the dotted line. Tennessee self-reported the minor violation, its fourth since Kiffin came on board as head coach.

Expect more of this kind of stuff until coaches become more comfortable with the technology and get the staff up to speed on the complex recruiting rules. I am not ruling out the possibility that the NCAA will eventually put a ban on coaches Tweeting just like they did with text messaging. Like most things that are done for recruiting, this one has the potential to get out of hand.

 

Will Kentucky will win the SEC—in men’s basketball?  I know this a football blog but last week I was in Lexington, Ky., on business and I’ve got to tell you—that place is up for grabs. The excitement level was off the charts about the arrival of John Calipari as head basketball coach. Well, it looks like that $4 million a year is already paying off. Now Calipari has added the No. 1 point guard in America, John Wall of Raleigh, to what was already one of the nation’s top recruiting classes. That just shows you the biggest difference between football and basketball. A dynamic coach can sign one big-time recruiting class and totally transform the program. The downside to that is all of those guys could leave after one year.

 

Enjoy your holiday, folks. Please be careful. We’ll talk to you next Tuesday from Destin.

 

 

169 comments Add your comment

Steve

May 22nd, 2009
8:40 am

Tony, the key point about Marve is that his father and his high school coach was talking to other schools while he was still under scholarship with Miami. This is the reason why Shannon would not let him transfer to an SEC school. Marve claimed that his father had cancer and wanted to be closer to home. If that is the case why did he not go to UCF or USF? The bottom line is Marve was a brat at Plant HS, and Miami would not put up with his immaturely. I hope he grows up at Purdue, and get his grades in order, but I have my doubts.

Lane "Shirt-Rippin" Kiffin

May 22nd, 2009
8:44 am

My latest signee, Titus “Hubcaps” Hudson just ran a 4.3 40, and that was with an ankle bracelet.

Call 'em like I see 'em.

May 22nd, 2009
8:50 am

Scholarship/transfer rules should be relaxed in cases where a head coach is replaced.

Delaney said pretty much the same thing you did a month or so ago – Football coaches don’t (usually) presume to know much about creating laws, why should those writing the laws expect that they would understand the football landscape? If Obama/Congress want to devote a good chunk of their time to looking into the BCS, that’s fine – but I doubt anyone in DC will have the time needed to look at all the aspects of the issue.

Whyso

May 22nd, 2009
8:55 am

Hearing there will be NCAA news coming from Alabama today about violations. Any truth to this Tony?

Max Sizemore

May 22nd, 2009
8:56 am

“Shirt-Rippin,” that’s a good one.

Mikey

May 22nd, 2009
8:58 am

The Obama administration should have more pressing issues to worry about than college football. If they don’t, folks we are in more trouble than suspected.

GeoffDawg

May 22nd, 2009
8:59 am

As much as I might be offended by the BCS results, it’s a very scary time when you can’t depend on the rule of law. A president that can initimidate preferred stockholders into taking far less than what they’re entitled, can replace the CEO of a major corporation at his whim, and who can “spread the wealth around”, has no business encroaching on the BCS. He doesn’t even have a strong grasp on matters pertinent to his job performance like the economy or national security. Why he thinks his time is better served trying to get up to speed on BCS politics is beyond me.

CharlotteGator

May 22nd, 2009
9:04 am

Sorry, but I can’t give any credence to anything out of Delany’s mouth. This is the same guy that said the only reason the SEC is faster/better than the Big Ten is because of lax admission standards in the SEC. Guy is an idiot and has no idea what he’s talking about. Maybe he should focus on counting the actual amount of teams in his conference, attempting to field one team that can compete w/ the country’s elite, or maybe even sitting down and shutting up.

AtlantaCane

May 22nd, 2009
9:07 am

Tony: Marve was restricted from transferring to FLorida, LSU and Tennessee only. The other 9 SEC programs were in the clear. The Hurricane coaching staff placed UF, LSU and UT off limits because they felt there had been tampering (read: discussions) during the ‘08 season involving some combination between Marve, and/or his former HS coach and/or those three schools. The fact UM said no to other ACC schools is a policy other schools have followed in the past. Originally, UCF and USF were also on the list and that’s because UM has them on their schedule. But after Marve’s father told the media he was quite sick and needed his son to play near their Tampa home Miami released those two schools. Even so, the Marve camp still complained (my guess is they wanted UF). So what happens? Marve ends up going to Purdue which is some 1,000 miles from Tampa with Tennessee, about 700 miles away finishes second. I hope the best for the young man, but you won’t find many UM fans, if any, who are upset that he’s gone. The right guy (Jacory Harris) stayed behind and we’ll be better for it sooner than later. Thank you. Go Canes!

AUtiger

May 22nd, 2009
9:08 am

I cannot wait for the NCAA to make it’s announcement about Alabama. I heard it could happen any day now, if it happens today that would really make for a great memorial day weekend.

GATAEagle

May 22nd, 2009
9:10 am

It’s long past time the BCS took their own actions to balance this out with a playoff system, if it takes Obama pressuring them with this talk about wasting Congress’ time about it, then I support him. If Obama and Congress actually have to act then both groups are more idiotic and irresponsible than I had previously given them credit (and that’s a big leap).

GeoffDawg

May 22nd, 2009
9:18 am

I honestly don’t want to get involved in a political debate here today and would rather focus on football. One thing that needs to be said though and if it offends some, so be it. It is not the president’s job to micro-manage the country. We have the legislative branch to pass laws and the judicial branch to interpret those laws. That’s why we have separation of power in government for those checks and balances. I don’t want a president that can swoop in and just change something at his leisure just because it’s politically unpopular at the time. We used to be governed by a king and that didn’t work out so well.

Tony Barnhart

May 22nd, 2009
9:24 am

AtlantaCane,

Thanks for the clarification on Marve. I still think the rule should be changed.

Been hearing for a month that Alabama is going to hear something else from the NCAA. But I haven’t heard it from somebody who really knows.

CRIMSON RULES

May 22nd, 2009
9:31 am

HEY autigger tell us MORE! Inquiring mind’s want to know !! I LOATHE BARNNER LOGIC& need a good laugh!!

SEC fan

May 22nd, 2009
9:32 am

Tony,
UT just had their strength coach quit. He was on board 6 months and his salary was $190K. That is now 11 full scholarship players and a newly hired and well paid coach. Seems there is something much bigger than Twitter Gate and shirt ripping going on at UT. The coach worked for Spurrier before UT so he was use to working for a demanding personality. Why all these guys leaving? At what point will the media start asking questions about the exodus? 6 months – 11 players, 1 newly hired coach – something really strange here!

bigdawg01

May 22nd, 2009
9:32 am

AUtiger:
You better hope for more than the NCAA. It is not looking good for Auburn for the foreseeable future. You should also hope for T-town falling into a big sink hole, or perhaps a freak lightning storm that hits Saban in the face??? Too harsh, i was just thinking like i was an AU fan.

Happy Memorial Day to all, have a safe weekend!

PMC

May 22nd, 2009
9:35 am

The President has been making up the law as he goes since he’s been in office. I suggest the commissioners watch thier tone or they will have thier own government oversite to deal with.

Bamafan

May 22nd, 2009
9:38 am

All the kitty cat fans don’t worry about the crimson tide slap on the wrist with the NCAA. The real problem is how is the cow college going to stop Saban and the crimson tide in the recruiting wars!!
Your tiger prowl ride around the state is not working and I think that Saban and company will make
Auburns limo stunt look really silly!! Everybody have a great weekend including the kitty cat fans!!
GO BAMA ROLL TIDES!!

NCAA Official

May 22nd, 2009
9:46 am

U.S. Presidents should not be messing with us. The only good news about the Obama comments regarding the BCS is that at least we now have a President that can spell both BCS and NCAA.

quaildawg

May 22nd, 2009
9:47 am

Why asked Obama? Who you really should be asking is the Teleprompter!!!
Obama just doesn’t seem to be the football type. Soccor version maybe but FOOTBALL nope.

Max Sizemore

May 22nd, 2009
9:48 am

I heard Monte Kiffin speak at the Orlando Nike Coach of the Year clinic on March 1, and he is a nutcase. Very enthusiastic, and he must be a great coach (Tampa two coverage), but still a little nuts. I’m not surprised his son is a chip off the old pistaccio.

Corrine Brown (D) FL

May 22nd, 2009
9:52 am

I be back, Baby.

Sure been busy wit all dis governmentalism. Who be the NCAA? Do they know Corch Meyers?

It is CLEAR, that the Gator is superior. Corch Meyers, and Percy Harvey: I hopes you have a nice labor day!

GO GATOR!

Bravedawg

May 22nd, 2009
9:52 am

TONY,

The coaches are safe from imposed furloughs because they are on contract. However, I do agree with your sentiment that they should volunteer that money to go back to the school. Additionally, I think your distinction between “base salary” and “total salary” is important. I don’t think many people realize that the numbers you hear on the news (2.8 mill/year, 3.5 mill/year, etc) are not the base salary for these coaches. Of course, their base salaries are still exorbitant, but not quite as much as most would think.

TIM BROWN

May 22nd, 2009
9:55 am

Does anyone really understand the BCS?

AUtiger

May 22nd, 2009
9:58 am

Bammers, the SEC is a tough football conference. It makes it even harder when your competing with crooked programs like Alabama. It’s about time you go back on probation, you’ve only been off it for a few years now.

David Basham

May 22nd, 2009
10:00 am

Jim Delaney and the Big Ten might be “going on the offense,” but they’re going to find out, sooner rather than later, that the worst thing you can do to a highly-educated person such as the President is to claim that the issue is “too complex” for them to understand.

It’s really not. Well over half the bowl games are meaningless competitions. Yes, they energize the fan base, give the respective programs a few extra weeks of practice and can serve as a launching pad to the next season — but all of that would still be the same if there were a 4 or 8-team playoff.

Also, let’s be clear: It’s not just the President who is asking for a playoff, but Congress as well. It’s going to happen, it’s just a matter of when. Perhaps Delaney should focus on un-screwing up the Big Ten’s shortened schedule that has the conference out of sight and out of mind during the first week of December.

Finally, to merge two of your topics: Does Lane Kiffin even understand Twitter? ‘Cause he sure doesn’t seem to understand NCAA rules, and this is just the stuff that is getting ink in the press. Makes me curious as to the other shady stuff he’s likely already involved in that hasn’t seeped to the surface yet.

AUtiger

May 22nd, 2009
10:06 am

I don’t know the difference between your & you’re, but I know Bama be crooked!

dgroy

May 22nd, 2009
10:08 am

OK, I’m gonna add my two cents worth about a 1-A Football Playoff. I’m old and I’ve been a college football fan for many, many years but, I’ts gotten too big folks…..green is great but greed is awful and that’s what college football has become…..extremely greedy….and that’s the only reason that a playoff hasn’t happened yet. I know some of you are gonna blast me, so go ahead.

TommyP

May 22nd, 2009
10:11 am

Tony: PLEASE post a blog pertaining to what happens when all of these “minor violations” accumulate. What does the NCAA do?

Nobody knows. And honestly….between you and Dick Vitale, I don’t know whom protects their respective sport at the expense of responsible journalism.

spider

May 22nd, 2009
10:11 am

we do not elect and pay for those people to go to washington dc too waste time and OUR money too worry about sports..its make me sick everytime i hear about a congressman worrying about a BCS problem or a pro athlete on steroids..they need too worry about how to bail out what used to be middle class people who now poor people

wisdom

May 22nd, 2009
10:14 am

obama is a damn fool….impeach him…what the hell does know about anything much less football.

Tech Fan Since 1950

May 22nd, 2009
10:14 am

Tony, the law is on their side? When will you and the elite commissioners ever learn that the BCS is a complete fraud. The NCAA is the legitimate governing body for college sports. Why then is there not a BCS for basketball, baseball, softball, tennis, golf,volleyball, etc. (you get the picture?)? President Obama deserves great praise for advocating a national play-off system. It is about time “MR. COLLEGE FOOTBALL” got onboard too! One gets the impression that President Obama knows more about college athletics than some of the athletic directors and writers that cover the sports.

JayD

May 22nd, 2009
10:15 am

The president might just be a fan – Don’t you all have jobs? Can’t you work in any industry or field, and have an opinion on CFB? Also, the NCAA is NOT made up of former coaches, players, or people connected to sports om any way shape or form. They don’t have any special knowlege about football that the rest of us don’t have – Doesn’t take a genius or a president to figure out that going undefeated and having no chance to at least compete for a championship is unfair – Even to a HUGE UGA/SEC fan!

spider

May 22nd, 2009
10:16 am

i totally agree with you dgroy, i am old too and have been a huge college sports fan all my life, i dont like the idea of a playoff or the BCS, but i realize im in the minority, thats why i go to GA TECH games and SDSU aztecs games, i’ll never have to worry about either of their football teams being involved in this mess

AltamahaDawg

May 22nd, 2009
10:21 am

Jim Delaney or Barack Obama. Yea, some options we got there!

Huh?

May 22nd, 2009
10:24 am

Does the President understand the BCS? The fact that this question even has to be asked proves what an absolutely laughable system we have. This is freaking football for God’s sake, not the Taliban-Pakistan conflict. Why do we have a system that not even the President of the United States can understand? Tony, do you not see the insanity of this? What a joke.

Coach O

May 22nd, 2009
10:30 am

Huh?

What time is that Taliban-Pakistan kickoff? I might have to keep my shirt on if I go to that game.

John McCain

May 22nd, 2009
10:32 am

Wisdom,
Obama is a vast improvement over the illiterate he replaced. You need to change your post name to IDIOT.

Steve

May 22nd, 2009
10:33 am

Tony:

Did I not say the same thing as Atlantacane said? Thank for reading.

P.S.:

I am surprised you did not say anything about ESPNU coming to Comcast. It’s about time..

Miles

May 22nd, 2009
10:34 am

Mr. Barnhart, your thoughts regarding the Marve situation are absolutely true. Rather than furloughs, maybe schools can raise money for their programs in the way the UNLV just did, i.e., scheduling a butt kicking at Morgantown, WV in 2010 for $750,000! As it relates to the BCS, Obama is pressing for the same thing all honest college football fans want: FAIRNESS!

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
10:34 am

The NCAA has not made an announcement regarding BAMA but ESPN has:

The game against Virginia Tech will air on ABC at 8PM on September 5. Accordingly, Atlanta will probably host College GameDay.

Eric

May 22nd, 2009
10:38 am

Hey pigdawg, I think things are looking up for Auburn. We’ll see. As for our new president, I’m convinced that he understands most things much better than most people. And I know for a fact that he understands everything much better than the moron who just spent eight years trying to destroy the country. I doubt Bush could even spell BCS.
WDE!!!

Tide rising

May 22nd, 2009
10:40 am

AUtiger,

Give it a rest dude. If Bama gets hit with anything at all it will be 2-4 scholarships lost over 2 years and a year of probation. The only thing that will actually hurt will be being back in the 5 year window.

As for the institution itself or rogue boosters cheating you should learn the facts of the case. All that happened is that several athletes figured out how to game the textbook distribution system so that they could get some free textbooks to help out friends or girlfriends. That’s it. No money changed hands, no competitive advantage was gained, its not as if the school itself was cheating. The school discovered the problem, self reported immediately, punished the athletes involved and the bookstore manager who wasn’t minding the store so to speak.

BTW, the ole people in glasses houses throwing stones definitely applies to you. Auburn along with one another sec school I won’t mention is tied for 3rd most major NCAA infractions cases with 6. Alabama has had 2 but we just remember both of them because they both happened in the 90s and the actual punishment for the second case was handed down in 2002.

Normally from past history athletes gaming the textbook distribution system is a 2ndary violation so I wouldn’t get my hopes up to much if I were you. You should spend more time worrying about Auburn rebuilding its program than hoping Bama gets probation. Its pathetic that you more elated about Bama having issues with the ncaa than about anything Auburn has going on.

DirtyDawg

May 22nd, 2009
10:50 am

Where do I start…how about with the last one…dgroy: Of course college football is driven by greed (aka, money-making machine). What isn’t? After all, it’s The American Way. I still say that any playoff system that dramatically alters the bowl structure, and the dozens of communities that have come to rely on both the timing and the existence of a football game for the success of their local festivals/tourism promotion, isn’t worth the aggravation. So you end up with one or two schools claiming that they could have ‘gone all the way’ if they had been given a shot at it? If you do away with the bowls as we know them, then 25 or so teams, and their fans, don’t go home happy, with coaches keeping jobs and athletic departments getting season-ticket renewals. I say, at most, you add a ‘plus-one’ game or leave it alone.

So Lane Kiffin should be given a ‘break’ for ‘tweet-gate’? Why the hell not? After all, in keeping with his ‘hard-nosed’ approach as outlined in the SI article of some months ago, the ‘assistant’ that actually ‘twittered the tweet’ has undoubtedly been fired by now (I mean he fired the guy responsible for seeing to it that he had a limo waiting for him at the Knoxville airport but was 30 minutes late picking him up – man what an inconvenience – ruin the guy’s life so I can send a message that I’m a hardass so you better measure up)…so this guy’s got to be toast.

Combining the comment about kids being restricted as to what schools they can transfer to…or if they have to sit out a year…or how to deal with those that ‘commit’ for some time in the future like the one UT has been ‘tweeting their T’ about, just what will Mr. Kiffin say to, or about, this kid when he sees Tennessee imploding next fall and decides that, just maybe, he let this hair-brained, big-talking, hot-shot, hot-box him into a pre-mature decision? And while I’m on it, Mr. Hewitt at Tech has thanked Georgia for the gift of the recruit that the new Georgia coach, and the school, made to Tech by, I assume, not restricting where the kid could go once he decided that he’d rather be at Tech (and paying his own way) and playing for one losing coach instead of that other one that just got fired at Georgia Am I to assume that Hewitt, and Tech, wouldn’t have been so generous if the shoe had been on the other foot? I mean the last ‘gift’ Tech made to UGA was Reggie Ball and/or Chan Gailey, which I doubt they’re willing to repeat. Of course, if would also mean that Hewitt would no longer be there so I suppose the question is superfluous.

That ought to be enough to get us through to Tuesday.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
10:50 am

First, Obama demands for a college playoff. Second, he demands for gas mileage and emission standards change, which completely changes what kind of cars we’ll be driving a few years from now. When exactly do we start calling America a socialist country? After the health system reform?
All of this sickens me. I don’t understand why people are praising Obama like he’s the second coming.

DirtyDawg

May 22nd, 2009
10:55 am

Hey ‘wisdom’…change your nom de plume. We’ve got enough laughable frauds around here as it is…not me of course.

Politics to the right of Attila the Hun

May 22nd, 2009
11:00 am

Eric,

You be right. Obama is da man. Overall, he took the deficit that Bush left us and did such a good job that he was able to quadruple the deficit in 90 days and add another 10 trillion to the debt. That makes him be 4 times as good as Bush at piling debt onto the backs of our children and grandchildren.

But don’t you worry. All he got to do is be going to the Chinese and bow down to them the way he bowed down to some 2 bit Arab oil sheik and beg them to buy more of our debt. You would think the Chinese would love making interest off our debt. The interest alone on the debt now stands at 830 billion per year. It almost be a trillion dollars a year. Thank you Mr. Obama.

Also, if Obama stand there and let banana republic dictators like Daniel Ortega and Hugo Chavez give the US a verbal beatdown for 45 minutes in front of the whole world then maybe Obama can meekly get them to buy more of our mountainous debt.

Maybe the French president Sarkozy who remarked about Obama inexperience and lack of knowledge can also buy mo of our debt. Maybe the other European leaders who also snickered about Obama incompetence can also buy more of our debt.

Obama also really good at blaming Bush for everything and diverting attention to the deepening crisis rather than being a man and accepting the obvious fact that his economic policies are simply making things worse. But he be good at blaming Bush. He do that better than anybody.

And another thing. Dis man rules with a teleprompter. Had you ever seen a man give such pretty speeches. Show me one man that do better with a teleprompter. Dat right! Nobody better with a teleprompter than Obama. Bush sucks with a teleprompter. Oh, wait a minute. He didn’t use one. Dat right dere prove how dumb Bush be. I hope Obama can fix the bcs the way he fix the debt. I’ll take his pretty speeches and emotional rhetoric over substance any day.

Chris

May 22nd, 2009
11:05 am

While the BCS has in theory brought us a #1 v #2 championship game, it’s rendered the other major bowls meaningless exhibitions. I know it’s ludicrous, but if we can’t have a real playoff, going back to the way it was would at least make the other four matchups compelling again.

And calling Obama or Tony an ‘idiot’ is what drags so many blogs into the gutter. Whether you agree with their opinions or not, juvenile bile like that takes any credibility out of a post.

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
11:07 am

Hey GeoffDawg,

Re: “We used to be governed by a king and that didn’t work out so well.”

Do you mean King George the 43rd?

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:14 am

Objective commentator:

….how did Bush act like a king in order for you to respond like that? All I know is that the Patriot’s Act, which is probably the best thing he signed, is saving lives of thousands of Americans and tourists. What has Obama done? Kill more babies?

Attila the hun

May 22nd, 2009
11:17 am

King Obama fix everything. He learned those preferred stockholders that the UAW is far more important than the law. Obama can simply ignore the law and make those greedy preferred shareholders who have a legal right to get paid first take a back seat to what Obama wants. That what make Obama a king. Or at least a dictator right? If he can just arbitrarily circumvent the law and do what he want then what’s the difference I ask? I mean really. What the difference?

Obama doing a good job running that car company. He sliced the advertising budget in half. One can only assume Obama has a marketing degree and knows far more about advertising and its effectiveness then those fools in the marketing and advertising dept at that car co. What the hell do they know anyway?

whitx2

May 22nd, 2009
11:18 am

AUtiger

Where does auburn stand on the alltime cheating list? Wouldn’t you rather beat your rival on the field than have the ncaa do it for you? Sorry, i forgot, you’re one of the new breed of AuburnGatorUteEagles, right?

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
11:18 am

Politics to the right of Attila the Hun,

Apparently, your politics include racism.

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
11:19 am

The politics of hope, promise and conscience trump those of fear, division and expedience every time!

Objective? Hmm, not so much

May 22nd, 2009
11:20 am

Obama is socialist…you can divert attention away from that fact by blaming Bush, but it doesn’t change what [terrible] events are transpiring in Washington right now.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:21 am

Right. We didn’t vote for Obama, so we’re racists. I see the logic. Makes total sense. (sarcasm)

DirtyDawg

May 22nd, 2009
11:22 am

Hey PTC Jacket, all it means is you’ll have to trade in your car, or is it truck, in seven years…or maybe they’ll be ‘grand-fathered in’ in which case you won’t even have to buy another bumper sticker. So this is Socialism, uh? If so I’ll take a little, common sense, Socialism over the ad-hoc, laissez-faire , no leadership, approach that’s gotten us into this mess and mire. And if moving to a sensible healthcare system, like the rest of the civilized world seems to have, that provides better results at a lower price, makes you sick, then let’s just hope that you don’t choke on your own vomit…then again, since that’s how bees make honey, go right ahead, feel free.

RB

May 22nd, 2009
11:22 am

If you guys are knocking Obama after Delany’s comments, you’re missing the boat. There’s nothing complex about the BCS, it’s a crock. Delany is just trying to protect the 18 million spread around his conference. That’s the 18 million they get for sending teams (Ohio St / Illinois) that can’t compete at the highest level of college football. NCAA football is business. Business is not complex, just follow the money.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:22 am

Objective commentator:

The politics of hope, promise and conscience trump those of fear, division and expedience every time!
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Yeah, try telling that to the terrorists in the Middle East that are conspiring another attack on America. Too bad that policy didn’t work for Clinton, otherwise we wouldn’t have had 9/11.

Objective? Hmm, not so much

May 22nd, 2009
11:24 am

Hold on PTC Jacket…Objective is waiting on the teleprompter to make his rebuttal! LOL

Sharecropper

May 22nd, 2009
11:25 am

Who died and made coaches god? If a coach can change schools at will — Kiffin, Johnson, et al — why can’t a player? If a pro-set passer is recruited by a pro-set coach, and that coach leaves after a couple of years, and an option coach is hired, the pro-set guy is now toast. His career is effectively over. If he wants out the new coach can tell him where he can’t play, and the NCAA will tell him how many years of eligibility he will lose, and if he stays he will never play, while the new coach is looking for a sellable reason to yank the scholarship. The player is helpless. But remember: America is the land of the free.

Will

May 22nd, 2009
11:25 am

Obama is going to fix the BCS like he is going to fix GITMO. Oh wait, he doesn’t have a plan for either.

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
11:26 am

Girls, girls!
The ugly truth is that we’ve been a social democratic (read that: hybrid socialist) nation for over a hundred years!
You political Chicken Littles need to stop watching Faux News and try thinking for yourselves, rather than being Limbaugh Lemmings.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:28 am

Yes, we’re aware of the socialism/democratic hybrid. We don’t want to go ALL the way to socialism, like Europe. Get it now? You must be a genuis.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:28 am

Dirty Dawg: No. I own a Mercedes that gets 26 mpg, which is good for a 2002 model. I don’t want to trade all of that hard working money in for an even more expensive car that’s going to be made out of tin and aluminum and plastic and crinkle like paper when it gets involved in an accident. Obama’s plan just doesn’t make sense, because it’s going to end up costing us more money. Electric bills are going to be high. Gas stations all over the country are going to have to be modified for the new electric/gas hybrids. More electricity means more coal and fossil fuel, right? How is that supposed to help the environment? The only way we can help the environment is by either going back to horses and carts (which the democrats would probably find a way to say that the horses’ crap hurts the ground and is bad for earth) or we find supersonic cars/planes like in the Jetson’s.

DawgGirl32

May 22nd, 2009
11:28 am

OMG I think we can all get a laugh out of this. Please look at Mark Sanchez’s photo shoot for GQ and just laugh. What a d-bag.

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_9297

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:31 am

Sanchez is allowed to wear that since he isn’t old, wrinkly, and pale.

CelticMan

May 22nd, 2009
11:32 am

Tony:

1. I am gonna have to disagree with you on Twitter. If Pete Carroll is not doing his own then someone has a full time job just doing that for the USC coach http://twitter.com/PeteCarroll

2. Has the SEC Media days been scheduled yet? The day Lane Kiffin has to go in front of the mics is must see TV. I can even see Alabama fans at the Galleria trying to bait him into saying or doing something unsmart.

3. The biggest issue aside from the BCS not being on the offense is the messengers. Jim Delaney and college presidents are not the most popular spokesmen nor do they connect well with ordinary fans like coaches. Given coaches generally speak in favor of a playoff (especially good coaches) and the simple logic this is a slam dunk for Obama.

4. The biggest reason why I think Obama pushes this playoff issue is in line with what I said above regarding University Presidents. It helps him identify with oridinary fans and given his Ivy League education it really works for him. Many blue collar voters sees his Ivy league education and feels a bit of a disconnect. Especially given his not so wise “cling to” speech last year he is clearly on the guard here. With Obama on the opposite side of the “pointy heads” on the BCS, this is a perfect issue for our President to show he is not just an Ivy league educated lawyer. This at least gives the perception that he will not blindly side with elite academia. Given more salient and controversial issues like stem cell research and whether or not the military can recruit on campus which are not popular with a lot of his working class base this political tactic really works for him.

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
11:32 am

PTC Jacket,
Attila’s post:
“You be right. Obama is da man.”
“But he be good at blaming Bush. He do that better than anybody.
“Dat right”
Does political opinion need to be written in such a way as to insult all African Americans?
Or was Attila’s intention otherwise?

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:35 am

No, that could also be pointed towards the younger generation’s language, who were known for appraising Obama because he’s “da man.” You obviously didn’t have a good argument for his post, because you had to find “racism” in it and pull that card. Really low blow.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:36 am

With all due respect, I value your opinion, but please don’t be like most of the democrats and pull the racism card whenever you can.

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
11:37 am

PTC:
A study by a university in England recently cited many of those European countires you speak of as places where the happiest people in the world reside.
They’ve less worries about medical coverage, exceptional public schools, first rate social and public services and secure retirement.
And for the record, those societies are all socially democratic.
There are no pure socialist countries in Western Europe.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
11:41 am

Do those countries also have a 30% unemployment rate? Honestly, if we wanted to live there, we would have moved there. Did you know that there was also a research done recently that showed that old, white republicans are the happiest? I honestly think both of those research studies are BS.

Whyso

May 22nd, 2009
11:47 am

Hearing there is more than books involved at bama. Couple of new cars were mentioned. Also wasn’t 2 car dealerships just raided in the area and their books seized.

DirtyDawg

May 22nd, 2009
11:51 am

Damn, just when I was ready to blast all you guys, ‘Objective commentator’ comes along and introduces a little common sense into the back and forth. So I suppose that my plan to tell PTC Jacket to go straight to effin hell, is probably no longer necessary..oh, what the hell. PTC – cram it up your yellow and black striped a**. This country is moving on despite the backward bigots that seem to reside, and post, around here. By the way, about that 9/11 reference…you forgot to include the 2001 part of it. Clinton and his people were all over OBL. For months and months Richard Clarke begged your boys (and that girl) to, at least, take a look at the evidence, up to, including and after the Aug 6 briefing where the briefer was admonished by Bush with an ‘OK, now you’ve covered your ass…what time is recess?’ I guess I’ve come to understand, and accept, that this state is full of people as prejudiced as you…what I can’t understand is that you’re still so proud of it. Obviously, your mommas and daddies didn’t teach you any better – guess they just taught you their own warped sense of right and wrong.

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
11:51 am

When the Republicans took control of Congress in 2001, we had a $155 Billion surplus.
When Obama took over, there was a $1.5 Trillion deficit.
Not to mention our national deficit went from 5.7 Trillion to 11 trillion in the same period.
HOW can you sing the praises of a party that abandoned its core in the name of political expedience?
The Banking Sector, Wall Street and Detroit are in the shape they’re in because of a complete lack of fiscal discipline and responsibility coulpled with an utter absence of oversight and regulation.
The legislation implemented after the Graet Crash of 1929 has been eroded in the name of your precious Free Market economics.
Those laws and regulatory bodies were put in place to prevent the evry mess in which we now find ourselves.
Those who do not learn from their mistakes are destined to repeat them.
The President seeks a return from the reckless abandon of Free economics to that of controlled, sustainable growth, just as the governor on your lawn mower engine prevents it from over-revving itself into the junkyard.

Layla Is A Gator!

May 22nd, 2009
11:52 am

Well hello everyone, as you all know, it’s a beautiful day in Knoxville… and as many of you know I just got here recently with my three little ones. Hope many of you saw the pictures and video of our happy reunion! The girls looked nice in their outfits, but you don’t know how many times I had to wash those clothes plus a whole bottle of Clorox to get them that color orange! Anyway, thanks to so many of you who sent me the nice cards and graphic pictures. Everyone here has been so nice, especially those three guys I got stuck in the elevator with the other day! They all wanted to see my Teebows, good thing I didn’t have any on! And all the coaches are very friendly, Coach O does that funny thing with his tongue every time he sees me, makes me laugh. And the basketball coaches have been nice too, Bruce says he can’t wait to give me a “Pearl” necklace and Pat says she wants to serve me up some hott steaming “pie”. Speaking of pie, guess one thing I’m going to have to adjust to here is the food culture. The other night, Lil Lane and I went to a brand new restaurant that only serves RC Cola and moonpies prepared 15 different ways! I’d say unusual, although the “filet of moonpie” wasn’t too bad. Haven’t had RC Cola in a while, it’s funny how they like to put peanuts in everything up here. The owner of the restaurant came out to introduce himself, his wife and his sister though there was only one woman standing there(?). And everybody seems all a twitter about Lanes latest violation but Lane just laughs it off. Like he says all the time, Rules, Smules! Anyway, until next time…tootles from Tennessee!

DirtyDawg

May 22nd, 2009
11:57 am

Boy, Barnhart knew what he was talking about when he said this would keep us busy til next week. Sports and politics…that’ll do it every time.

Attila the hun

May 22nd, 2009
12:01 pm

PTC Jacket and objective commentator,

The posting was purposely done in Ebonics for a number of reasons.

The primary reason was of course to elicit a response and see if people like objective commentator would address the real issues such as the national debt or address the not so thinly veiled racism. Of course he attacked the racism as he should but didn’t address the meat of the argument.

The other reason I posted that is just curiosity. There are indeed some African Americans who do speak that way. Is objective commentator stating that its racist to mimick the actual way that some people speak? After all, some people do speak that way. Isn’t it racist of him to look down on the way some people speak? Isn’t that racism? Isn’t it racist for you to look down on the way some people speak just because they don’t speak proper English? For all he knew I could have been an African American who speaks and writes poorly but is conservative in his views. Objective commentator just assumes and yes, he even stereotypes and believes that any African American who speaks or writes poorly is automatically a liberal Democrat. Talk about pigeonholing people.

Another reason is that I knew it would elecit a response and an attack on the racism of the post. I’m just curious if the poster also decries Obama when he plays racial politics. Does he object when Obama writes in his book “White man’s greed ruins a nation in need”. Does he object to Obama attending a race baiting, hate mongering, anti-whitey church for 20 years and then claiming he didn’t know his pastor held these radical views? Does he object to Obama’s “typical white person” comments about white people and their views. Or does he patronize black people and excuse their behavior and their own racism by not holding them to the same standards? In other words does he look down on them and excuse their own behavior because he looks down on them in a manner that denotes lesser expectations of them which in and of itself is racist.

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
12:03 pm

DirtyDawg: Wow, way to be like Objective Commentator and pull the “prejudice” card. My parents raised me well by telling me to never call anyone racist or to never be a racist, and to respect everyone regardless of their background, culture, religious beliefs, etc. I’m not here to say that Obama is a socialist and blah blah blah. All I’m saying is that his plans–as of now–don’t make sense, and I was mostly lashing out at Objective Commentator for pulling the “racist” card. Why don’t you guys call Tony a racist for saying “Prez” in his title?

Objective Commentator: Okay, I never backed Bush up for his plans. I never said that he was the best one ever. I never said that Obama was the worst president ever. All I know is that the republicans and the democrats have both screwed up in the past…Idk, decade? And they need to organize their priorities. As in, not putting so much debt on the younger generation and for many generations to come.

And I believe Detroit is in the mess they are now because of their decisions, not of the government. Wall Street? Greed.

Guys, seriously, it’s just a business cycle. Experts will tell you that over and over, yet you’re trying to put the blame on someone. Relax, for God’s sake, the economy will pick up after people gain confidence again. Stock went up waaaay too high, and now it’s going to be adjusted to it’s normal level again.

Anonymous

May 22nd, 2009
12:08 pm

Hey Attila, how does that hood fit?

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
12:15 pm

PTC,

As you can see above, I’ll enthusiastically engage in political discourse in a civil forum.
But the debate has no place for neanderthals like Attila and his not-so-thinly-veiled disparagement of the President’s racial background.

The Blog Referee

May 22nd, 2009
12:18 pm

Multiple referee whistles and penalty flags on today’s blogs!

Fifteen yards on PTC JACKET for making up economic numbers. Cite your authority next time; the real numbers are all available on line. I suggest you start with the Congressional Budget Office’s website, and some responsible financial reporting publications like the Economist, the Financial Times and the Wall Street Journal.

Fifteen yards on OBJECTIVE COMMENTATOR for making up European “happiness” surveys. Quote a respected polling organization, the publication date and the actual polling numbers, and you MIGHT have some credibility. Before you do so, I suggest you review European vs. American economic growth rates over the last 35+ years.

Fifteen yards on DIRTYDAWG, and mandatory economics study/detention hall after the game, for ignorantly advocating a failed economic system and public policies that have nothing to do with solving the problems mentioned. I hope you plan to voluntarily pay higher federal income taxes to pay for the policies you advocate, instead of merely hoping the “rich” will pay your share.

Anyone else who advocates any form of politics on this blog will be deleted. Now, shake hands and play (blog) nice.

mcdawg

May 22nd, 2009
12:20 pm

please Braves save us from the doldrums of summer and the banality of pseudo intellectual blog posts (and Obama lecture/speeches)

why do the braves sign all these aging pitchers they never see the mound?

see ya in Stillwater baby

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
12:22 pm

Blog Referee: What economic numbers did I post? The only ones that I remember being posted were by DirtyDawg. Can’t really penalize me for that if I didn’t do it…

CRIMSON RULES

May 22nd, 2009
12:23 pm

au tigger,YOU are just like a little girl whom run’s home to mommy b/c some one said…..! INDEED GET A LIFE !! MAYBE YOU SHOULD CALL COACH “CHEEZESTIK” AND TAKE A LIMO RIDE…SCRATCH THAT MAKE IT A TRACTOR RIDE YOU NEED THE FRESH AIR …..barnner girl!!!

mcdawg

May 22nd, 2009
12:24 pm

in addendum-NO Thursday night games-that is for baby conferences like the ACC

Atlanta Gator

May 22nd, 2009
12:24 pm

Objective Commentator, PTC Jacket & DirtyDawg—-Winston Churchill once defined a “fanatic” as someone who “can’t change his mind, and won’t change the subject.”

Thanks for hijacking our college football blog, and spoiling it for those of us who come here to discuss college football, boys. Why don’t you try Jim Wooten or Cynthia Tucker’s blogs, and leave the rest of us in peace?

Thanks.

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
12:25 pm

PTC<

“. . . it’s just a business cycle.”
President Washington’s (the first George) administration presided over a banking debacle similar to today’s (proprtionately) and every fifteen years or so we would suffer another.
Until the Glass-Steagal Act (among others) finally regulated banking to prevent such peaks and crashes.
Contolled growth is sustainavle growth.
Liik at the utility sector.
Heavily regulated, yet the companies enjoy consistent profits and we have the most reliable power grid in the world.
The insurance sector best illustrayes my point:
But for banking deregulation allowing insurance companies to become banks, the insurance side of these busunesses are healthy as horses.
Deregulation of controlls intended to reduce market extremes is like blowing up the dam that has prevented the droughts and floods of the peviously wild river’s past.

Objective commentator

May 22nd, 2009
12:27 pm

Atlanta Gator,

I’ll humbly oblige your wishes.

Best wishes to all for a safe and fun weekend.

Attila the hun

May 22nd, 2009
12:28 pm

Objective commentator,

First of all, you criticize the “precious free market economics” approach. This precious free markets economics has lifted more people out of poverty than socialism ever has or ever will. Throughout economic history the less govt interference and the lower marginal tax rates the more prosperous an economy is and hence the people. This is just a simple fact of life that is not in dispute.

In terms of pure material wealth even a lot of poor American people have more material goods than middle class European people. A lot of middle class Europeans don’t even own cars or they pool their money between several people to own a car. I know this because my dad lived in Europe a while and couldn’t believe the incredible difference in material wealth. My relatives who’ve traveled extensively through Europe told me the same thing. So did the European exchange students that my best friends family hosted.

Drive through a poor black neighborhood and believe it or not you’ll see cars in most driveways(even housing projects), most people have tvs, washers/dryers, all the material objects that a lot of people around the world simply don’t have. They have material goods that middle class Europeans don’t ahve. Its not my fault if their priority is to buy an expensive car with their money as opposed to buying health insurance. This is what freedom is all about. You should also note as you fail to do that poverty is relative. The poorest people in this country may be poor compared to the rest of us but compared to the rest of the world they are anything but poor. And as much money that flows into the school system the problem isn’t money. There is more money that goes into poor performing inner city schools than in comparable European schools . The problem. One is government. The other is the culture of the kids in those schools. And you know this is the truth. The fact that you don’t want to hear it doesn’t change it.

Your idea that socialized western european countries like sweden are generally happier may have some validity. But they also don’t have the material wealth we have and also their societies are much more homogenous with the same social expectations generally. Its a tradeoff. If someown here wants to live a slower paced life, have less material goods and work less hours, less pressure, than so be it. Its called freedom and people here certainly have the option of having that freedom.

In regards to regulation you have it exactly backwards. Noted economist and Hoover institution member Thomas Sowell of Stanford University just wrote a book that details the events that led to the financial meltdown. While he is a conservative author he simply lays out the facts, the numbers, the legislation of what exactly happened all along that led to the subprime fiasco. In a nutshell the regulators largely caused the whole problem with a series of laws and directives to Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac to start lending to lower income people and minorities in the name of political correctness and what people like Barney Frank like to call “fairness”. It is not lack of regulation that is the root of the problem. It is the regulation and the self absorbed socialist tinkerers like Frank that overregulated and started telling banks, Fannie mae, etc. who they should be lending to and then making sure they did it. That is the whole crux of the problem. You just choose to ignore it because it doesn’t fit into your worldview.

And now you want to compound the problem even further by now having lawyers like Obama pretend that they know 2 cents about business and economics so they can further screw things up with even more government intereference. People like you with this misplaced faith in politicians and lawyers running the economy are nothing short of flat out amazing.

H OBAMA

May 22nd, 2009
12:29 pm

ALL YOU PEOPLE TALKING BAD ABOUT THE GREATEST AND COOLEST PREZ SINCE SLICK WILLY ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR TAXES HIKED. HIKED IS THAT A FOOTBALL TERM? DON’T TELL ME I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT FOOSBALL. TAX TAX TAX SPEND SPEND SPEND I AM GOING TO OUT SPEND THE LAST ADMINISTRATION BY A BUNCH. BLOGGERS NEED TO PAY MORE TAX WATCH OUT

Cobb Dawg

May 22nd, 2009
12:30 pm

Objective Commentator,
PTC Jacket &
DirtyDawg:

Why don’t you take your “political discourse” and private debate over to one of those “civil forums” where bloggers spend their time arguing about politics, and leave us the hell alone? Can you say “time, place, manner?” Your comments are not appropriate to this civil form. Thank you.

Cobb Dawg

May 22nd, 2009
12:32 pm

Attila the Hun,

That means you, too. Please follow Objective commentator to the AJC political blogs. Thank you for consideration for the rest of us.

Attila the hun

May 22nd, 2009
12:34 pm

I’m done for the day with my ranting. You guys can have the blogs back. I’m outta here.

Anonymous, Too

May 22nd, 2009
12:35 pm

Anyone else want to engage in political BULLSH!T? Then EXIT our college football blog NOW!

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
12:35 pm

Objective Commentator: Wasn’t the Glass-Steagal Act repealed by President Clinton in 1999? And replaced by The 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act? Yeah, good job. It reallllly worked.

Anyway, I have better things to do. All I wanted to do was jab at you for pulling the racist card, which was unnecessary. Peace out.

Cobb Dawg

May 22nd, 2009
12:39 pm

PTC Jacket,

Just couldn’t let it go, could you?

Try to have a nice day, and come back when you want to talk about football.

Me

May 22nd, 2009
12:43 pm

Layla–Hilarious post plus a nice break from this political garbage!

PTC Jacket

May 22nd, 2009
12:45 pm

Cobb Dawg: I never saw your post, nor anybody else’s when I posted mine. I had to pay attention to something else, then I came back and posted it without updating the blog. Whoopdedoo.

Dave

May 22nd, 2009
12:49 pm

WOW, and say FOOTBALL is a contact sport!!!

Nachos

May 22nd, 2009
12:58 pm

Eric – You are a barner AND an Obama supporter? Wow, you are the definition of the word LOSER. Fear Chizik !

Urban Warfare

May 22nd, 2009
1:04 pm

Tony, I wholeheartedly agree about the transfer rules being one sided. If the coach that was there leaves for any reason, a player should have the right to go anywhere they want with NO restrictions! And if THE player makes the decision to leave, he shoulf sit out a year and then be free to go where ever the next. As far as politicians getting involved here, it’s ok for them to express an opinion, but they should have enough other things to do! As far as the Kiffin twitter thing, I think at the very least it was stupid for him/them to let a new person, who was obviously unqualified, to be handling communications for the HC. Or maybe “Layla”, in her earlier post, said it best.

G8R GRAD

May 22nd, 2009
1:07 pm

“Once again it is Fearless Friday, Memorial Day Edition. This is where you are free to sound off on any topic, even if it’s non football related.”

Taking Tony at his word, here are the results of the SEC baseball tournament:
Thursday
UF defeated Ole Miss;
LSU defeated UA;
Arkansas defeated UGA; and
Vandy defeated USC.

Friday
UF to play UGA (winner to play Vandy tomorrow); and
LSU to play USC (winner to play Arkansas tomorrow).

GO GATORS!

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 22nd, 2009
1:07 pm

Our President is too busy lying about Gitmo, campaign finance reform, immediate withdrawl from Iraq, transparency, earmarks, and running Government Motors to deal with the BCS.

I think he’s also going to over to John Edwards modest little 28,000 sq. ft shack in Raleigh to play some one on one basketball. Winner gets to fly Air Force One around NYC. Loser gets water-boarded for 10 seconds by Nancy Pelosi (don’t worry, she’s already forgotten).

Joe Biden was going to officiate, but he thought Hilary Clinton would do a better job.

Coming soon the Barney Frank hotdog eating contest sponsored by AIG and ACCORN.

Urban Warfare

May 22nd, 2009
1:10 pm

STOP the Madness!!!

DawgGirl32

May 22nd, 2009
1:24 pm

Actually G8R GRAD, UGA beat Arkansas yesterday and will get a bye week to rest. The Gators will play Arkansas in the elimination game tomorrow….not Georgia.

DawgGirl32

May 22nd, 2009
1:27 pm

Actually G8R GRAD, UGA beat Arkansas yesterday and don’t play again til Saturday. The Gators play Arkansas in the elimination game tomorrow…not Georgia.

AUtiger

May 22nd, 2009
1:34 pm

Bammers, Dogs, and alike. I’m glad my comments got you a little ticked off. Exactly what I was trying to do. Just a game. Happy Memorial Day!

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
1:39 pm

In Super Regional action, BAMA softball plays Jacksonville St. in 20 minutes on ESPN2. Game 2 is tomorrow at noon on ESPN. Game 3 will not be necessary.

Next stop: Oklahoma City for the World Series. RTR!

GeoffDawg

May 22nd, 2009
1:43 pm

yuck – that Barney Frank hotdog comment just gave me the willies.

reservoirDAWG

May 22nd, 2009
1:56 pm

No doubt Geoff.

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
1:59 pm

Tech and UGA both host Super Regionals and could join the Tide in OKC.

About a month ago, Bama played at Tech in the new stadium. It was standing room only. Bama took both games (10-0, 8-0) with the mercy rule.

This season Bama was 3-0 against UGA with two mercy rulings.

Tide rising

May 22nd, 2009
2:04 pm

Ramble on,

I’ll promise to never ever say a negative about Tech if you promise to never bring up Barney Frank and hot dogs again.

I’m outta here. Straight out the door and to the beach condo at Gulf Shores. Everyone have a great Memorial Weekend. That even includes you barners.

Gen Neyland

May 22nd, 2009
2:16 pm

SEC fan : You failed to mention UT signed the #1 rated recruit in the nation. You overlooked that there are still 15-20 coaches still on staff. You simply missed the part that all starters and other key elements remain onboard and continue to grow into the new system. What, a top 10 recruiting class for this guy in his first year..? Perplexing isn’t it..?

Gen Neyland

May 22nd, 2009
2:20 pm

Tide Rising : Have a great trip. We were at Perdido during this year’s Mullet Toss. I hear it came down to Tebow and John Bubba Parker Wilson in the finals…

Lane "Shirt-Rippin' Kiffin

May 22nd, 2009
2:30 pm

Gen Neyland

Let’s just hope none of my recruits violate their probation. I’m sure somebody will WHINE about it.

Bellefay1

May 22nd, 2009
2:31 pm

I can see Delany’s point about the BCS being too complex for mortals to understand…Kind of like calling a league of 11 teams, the Big 10.

Jumbeauxtiger

May 22nd, 2009
2:38 pm

Tony, let us know when you find out in Destin what games CBS and ESPN have selected to telecast.

Cuz

May 22nd, 2009
2:42 pm

First the banks, then the auto industry, now College football. Next thing you know the government will try to take over health care.

G8R GRAD

May 22nd, 2009
2:43 pm

DawgGirl32:

Many thanks and as many apologies!

As of 1:00 this afternoon, bleacherreport.com had it as I reported it.
They have since corrected their site.
Thanks again, and happy Memorial Day weekend to everyone!

reservoirDAWG

May 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

I don’t think Barry understands much, so I think he needs to keep his nose out of college football.

DawgGirl32

May 22nd, 2009
2:56 pm

You too G8R GRAD!! Have fun and stay safe everyone! :)

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
3:19 pm

Bama up 7-0 after three innings.

ESPN360 has made work a lot less boring.

JB

May 22nd, 2009
3:22 pm

The better question is, does Delaney understand the BCS? I’m thinking not.

Our Pres, on the other hand, gets the buffoonery that is the BCS.

HBTD!!!!

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
3:38 pm

Bama up 9-0 in bottom of fourth.

espn360

May 22nd, 2009
3:41 pm

now my job is much less soul-crushing!

M

May 22nd, 2009
4:23 pm

Objective Commentator….you screwed up and got on the wrong blog again. You and your Daily Kos loonies are over on the Kos or Huffington Post blogs. There, you can wallow all you want in your distortions and make believe world. Folks here think for themselves, and believe in personal freedom too much to swallow what you’re sellin’ !

Ted Striker

May 22nd, 2009
4:27 pm

“So & so doesn’t understand the complexity of the issue” is an attempt to minimize anything the person says on the issue. Fact: The BCS is broken and the guys in charge won’t fix it. I got no problem with someone, anyone else weighing in on it.

Agree with Tony that changes are needed for the transfer rule. Recruits get the short end of the stick when going to another school and coaches — who are highly compensated — play musical chairs with little consequence.

If school employees are to be furloughed, coaches should be in on it too.

Kiffin does NOT deserve a break on the twitter violation. If he designates someone to tweet for him, it’s his responsibility to ensure the person knows the second most basic rule in infractions — don’t comment on unsigned recruits. The first is obviously, don’t pay recruits. Everyone who knows even a minimal bit about college football knows both.

DirtyDawg

May 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm

Stepped away for a while and was gonna just ‘move on’, then I saw a few more posts from the DixieCrat scions that populate this space. Barnhart knew what he was doing when he introduced Barack Obama into a sports discussion blog – and first the tech guys, then the hun and now an ‘M’ – fell for it and started talkin’ sedition. A response seemed appropriate and I presented a few. Frankly, I could have shut the hell up and let Objective commentator words speak for all of us – but, of course, I couldn’t help myself cause you guys are so easy.

Say What

May 22nd, 2009
4:41 pm

M, you’re the pot calling the kettle black if you’re a Fox News or Limbaugh kind of guy. Fans of those wackos sure as hell aren’t thinking for themselves. Does the term “DittoHead” mean anything to you ?
It means “I need somebody to tell me what to think because I’m incapable of doing it myself”.

staff fan now

May 22nd, 2009
4:42 pm

Tony, are you happy with this blog?

shane#1

May 22nd, 2009
5:09 pm

Some points for your consideration, 1- Delaney sure swings a big stick, and how many BCSNCGs has Ohio State played? 2- Can you imagine how Lyndon would have reacted if Texas had been screwed out of the BCS Championship game when he was President? Johnson understood power and was not afraid to use it, so Delaney would have been talking out of the other side of his mouth. 3- Coaches have contracts that include penalties for violating their contracts. West Virginia set a good example for others to follow. I have no problem with what Miami did involving the player. 4- Does Tony have a hidden agenda? This blog would certainly be improved if some of these fans started posting on the political blogs. Hmmm, how sneaky and underhanded Tony, I love it!

Volatile Nation

May 22nd, 2009
7:04 pm

Major rumblings of major problems at Tennessee. Stay tuned!!!

Vol fan

May 22nd, 2009
7:59 pm

Vol Nation, maybe someone from the NCAA is finally asking why 11 players and a coach have now quit the UT football team in the last 6 months. The coach is one Kiffy hired so he has only been there about 5 months. Tony was asked in an earlier posting if he had any idea what was going on. He didn’t post a response so maybe he has already gone on vacation. Whatever the case, I hope Kiffy cleans up his act before he takes away scholarships from more kids. Maybe a few should have gone but 11? It is easy for a coach to run over kids that age and Kiffy seems to really enjoy it.

Gen Neyland

May 22nd, 2009
9:30 pm

Vol fan : A tag like a Bug in a Dawghouse

Reggie

May 22nd, 2009
10:06 pm

Why does all the ignorant and bass akwards commentors 9 NO MATTER WHAT BLOG) haS to a have a (Dawg) attached? This blog should be about football or sports. Toney being the good “southern gentleman” knew what he doing when he invoked the president into the equation with all the dawg fans(read south Ga.) around?

shane#1

May 22nd, 2009
10:50 pm

Reggie, say what about South Ga? Tony, not Toney, just blogged about KIffin getting in trouble for insulting people in a poor area of Fla and now you pop off about South Ga? FYI, we have enough problems down here without your ignorant, racist, statements. Yeah, I know, it’s Delany, not Delaney like I posted earlier. I have a fwe quarters if anyone wants to call someone that gives a rat’s buttocks.

m

May 23rd, 2009
7:57 am

President Obama understands the BCS. He understands that the BCS is the most stupid, idiotic system ever developed, and it should be banned immediately. Only complete tools like Tony Barnyard support it.

We need a 16 team playoff, and we need it now, and I hope that President Obama makes it happen.

Thank God and Greyhound that the bcs of coaches, chan gomer gailey, is gone forever…he should have taken the bcs with him.

Cuz

May 23rd, 2009
11:03 am

Is it safe to talk about football yet?

NaGaNole

May 23rd, 2009
12:43 pm

I have some thoughts to throw out there about a college playoff system. A D-1 college playoff tourney would need to be similar to other contemporary playoff tourneys. I’m concerned about the number of teams you’d need to make it fair. I’m going by memory here, but I believe there are 347 D-1 schools playing basketball. Of those, 65 are invited to the tourney. That’s a little less than 19%. The NFL takes the top 12 teams, or about 35%. The most fair way IMHO would be a 20 team playoff where the top four seeds got a bye in the first round. That would be a little less that 20% of the 112 playing FBS D-1 football. Under that idea, you’d have those 2 championship teams playing an extra 5 weeks of football, possibly with a bye if one of those teams were one of the top 4 seeds. The championship game wouldn’t be played until mid Jan, long after most colleges were back from winter break. I don’t know if it’s right to ask these kids to play that long. What do you think?

Other schools not playing have more time for recruiting. You think that being the the playoff would give you an edge, but it gives time for the coaches at other schools more face time with recruits. Do you wanna watch a school that doesn’t make the tourney or gets knocked out early spending time with recruits on the fence with your school? You might ask why a team in the tourney can’t be out there also. That’s almost impossible with just a week before another game to get practice in and coaches out into kid’s homes. This might ensure more parody in college football. Who knows?

How would money be distributed back to the schools? A shortcut to this would be using existing bowls to host this game. What do you do with the other bowls? Fans enjoy seeing their teams playing, even if it’s a meaningless game. If you give control of the playoff tourney to the networks, how would that work? Money needs to make it’s way back to all the conferences. In a playoff system, you might have some conferences that don’t even get invited. If might give conference champs an auto invite, but then it’s open game. If one or two conferences put in multiple teams, do they get bigger cuts?

There are other questions too. Can you still play FCS teams? What polls do you use to place teams in the tourney? The Harris poll is a joke. Should a conference team ranked outside the top 20 still be allowed in? The list goes on…

TLH Gator

May 23rd, 2009
1:54 pm

President Obama appears to be just a fan of competitive sports, like me and many of you. It is simply wrong that college football, my favorite sport, does not have a competitive postseason to determine its champion.

College football has systemic problems not dissimilar to the institutions that have contributed to our current economic condition. It is an oligarchy controlled by the BCS conferences that limits access to the golden goose that is television revenue. This system primarily enriches member schools, athletic departments and coaches. Just like the banking/financial services industry, it only looks out for its own well-being and ignores the long-term best interests of its customers.

It also places sycophants in the media who either have previously benefitted from the system or may in the future. These defenders of the bowl “tradition” use any inane argument to divert public sentiment from what is right – a 16 team playoff.

All the arguments not to establish such a playoff are a smoke-screen for the bottom line issue – sharing television revenues with non-BCS schools. If President Obama can contribute to the effort to shine the light of truth on this debate, more power to him. The more the BCS conferences, schools, coaches and bowl reps can be shown to be more interested in greed than competitive fairness, the better.

Preston

May 23rd, 2009
2:49 pm

Say What, Anyone that listens to one news source is vulnerable to mind control. You’re obviously a liberal for calling Rush a whacko. That whacko sure has done well for himself and makes a great deal of sense to people that really do listen to all angles of the political spectrum. Why is it that liberal talk shows don’t make it? Because the liberal host gets made a fool of by people that are truly educated and have a grasp on reality in terms of what’s best for our great nation. Hopefully the current president will stay out of college football because he’s already screwing up enough.

Jack P

May 23rd, 2009
2:51 pm

How can the President understand the complications of the BCS when he can’t understand the basics of economics. He is destroying our economy and is too stupid to realize it.

Preston

May 23rd, 2009
4:16 pm

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage.”
[Alexander Tyler]

Now which party do you suppose promises the most money from the public treasury by means of vote buying? If you don’t know the answer, please don’t vote!

shane#1

May 23rd, 2009
5:51 pm

I do mot choose to discuss politics on this or any other blog. This country is greater than any politician and greater than any political party. Obama will not be the end of this country nor will any other president. Be;ieve me, we have had worse. So you guys evjoy your politics but remember those that gave their all so you could air your opinions. I am goimg to raise a glass to absent friends and say thanks.

Loser Lane

May 23rd, 2009
6:13 pm

You think RUSH is a wacko?? I”LL show you a wacko!!!

Dave

May 23rd, 2009
6:21 pm

I love these people (Republicans)who attempt to lay the woes of the economy at the feet of Obama after a little over 100 days in office! I guess the previous EIGHT years never happened!!! NEWS FLASH!! It’s gonna take a whole lot more than 100 days to untangle the mess we substained under the “Bush” league government! The Republicans right now look like a bunch of old men with a bunch of old ideas, and that’s coming from someone who used to be one…

JimC

May 23rd, 2009
7:25 pm

The federal government has absolutely no right to meddle with the BCS. This is just one more example of Obama and his leftist buddies wanting to control everything.

Dog in TN

May 23rd, 2009
7:31 pm

The Prez does not understand his job, or our constitution. The BCS is definietly above his head.

Ray

May 23rd, 2009
7:40 pm

Why not adjust the out of conference schedules so as to include meaningul games? This would produce enough of a cross lattice of play to offer reasonable comparison between the teams. Do this, madate conference championships, and there will be no question as to who nos.1 and 2 are at the end of the year.

T

May 23rd, 2009
8:32 pm

Interesting anti – Obama comments. You tie anti BCS to Obama, and the comments from these rednecks are he doesn’t need to be worrying about sports. He made a comment, gave his opinion, nothing wrong with that.

Had you said the BCS is great, the comments would have nailed you to the wall.

I don’t like the BCS, we can have a playoff, it is a simple matter of money. The big schools get the benefit of the BCS and have the influence and control over the NCAA, and so they don’t want to give it up. This is not rocket science, it is simply money and the bigs want to keep it to themselves.

John

May 23rd, 2009
8:40 pm

Whining, crying, wallowing in self pity, inability to step up and accept responsibility, arrogance, no accountability, all contributed to losing the Congress and the Presidency. Why don’t you guys get on a political blog and shut up on this one. This is a sports blog! You each buy your own immature excuses and approach to losing and then go into juvenile booger flipping at the one who beat you. Real mature approach, ya think?

Gen Neyland

May 23rd, 2009
10:54 pm

Anyone out there doing the 5K or 15K Ranger Run at Camp Frank D. Merrill Saturday..?

shane #1 : Amen

Cuz : No

Coach "O"

May 24th, 2009
8:52 am

Hey Baby Kiffin… send Layla over to my office. Coach “O” needs a rubdown! ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

GT

May 24th, 2009
9:13 am

Back in the 30s college football had players that played for four of five colleges like hobos drifting for one college town to another. Some of them lived under the stands in the college stadium they played for. Things would go missing from shops or dorm rooms and there were flea markets in these camps with these guys selling stolen mechanize, or laying around dunk and most never saw the inside of a classroom which was noticed in their articulation. Parents were not involved because most of these men were in their mid twenties and a few in their 30s. We have made some progress but the overall theme is the same.

staff fan now

May 24th, 2009
11:03 am

This old ‘nam era vet is glad we are not commemorating me today…never was a target.
But I am confused about some of the anti president comments – both past and present.
Guess the no name required blogs does bring out the coward in many.

Shane#1 and Gen Neyland above got it correct. Happy Memorial Day…both R,D and L.

dt4c

May 24th, 2009
1:24 pm

As long as the rule hurts the crooks at Tennessee I think it should remain the same. You can’t have kids like Marve changing schools every time a know it all coach changes jobs. Sign with the school play for the school you sign with.

Preston

May 24th, 2009
2:07 pm

It’s a free for all blog…remember? I didn’t start this crap but I’ll voice my opinion. Dave, I haven’t read all the posts but I never blamed Obama for the way things are. I simply know how liberal he is and I blame a liberal congress for the mess we’re in. I believe we’re screwed unless we get two things going. 1) conservative leadership, and 2) the FairTax. Obama sucks a$$ and so does Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the liberal jacka$$es!

DirtyDawg

May 24th, 2009
11:20 pm

I didn’t start this political crap, Barnhart did when he introduced Obama into the discussion on the BCS…just before he bugged out for the weekend. But I couldn’t stand by while you peckerwoods skinned you ignorance. I know you’ll never admit that you were wrong about any of this but I assure you, you are. It’s called cognitive dissonance and you guys have it in spades. My guess is that none of you really know what a Liberal is, but if being a 180 degree opposite of a Rush Limbaugh, or a Sean Hannity, or a Bill O’Reilly, a Dick Cheney or a George Bush is Liberal, then you’re damn right I’m Liberal and proud of it.

Now for what I had tried to post earlier only to lose it…I don’t believe that some 16 team playoff system would ever work, nor should it. What I want to know is what’s so bad about the way we’re doing it now. At worst you may end up with one or two teams that may whine about not being given a ‘fair shot’ at the BCS Championship…and even those are probably the Boise States or the Utahs…so what. If you try to select sixteen teams then you’ll have a hellovalot more complaining about being left out of that.

The way it is now, with some 25 bowl games, you have 50 programs that get to reward their teams and fans with a post-season trip – and 25 of ‘em go home happy, coaches keep jobs and get raises and athletic departments get season ticket renewals. Plus communities all over the country get to have a football game as part of a local festival or tourism promotion. Not to mention how will you set up the playoffs? Top seeds get home games? How fair is that? How many tickets do the ‘visitors’ get? How do you set the seeding…the same way to do the BCS now? That sure won’t cause arguments, will it? If all the games are associated with current bowls that means, in addition to some of the communities having to move their traditional Holiday Festivals every year, 16 teams and their fans, will have had to travel to four games with all the expense associated with that – tickets, rooms (three night minimum), airfare, etc…hard to imagine, particularly in a ‘down economy’ that going over.

No, I say keep what we have. Maybe add a ‘plus-one’ game to eliminate that one team that might claim ‘it wuz robbed’, and have fun. Because if we’re gonna go through all this aggravation just to establish some concept of ‘equal opportunity competition’ it won’t be worth it…in fact it even smells like something them Libruls, or the ACLU, would have thought up, and we all know how you guys feel about that.

DirtyDawg

May 24th, 2009
11:26 pm

What I, of course, meant was the two finalists would have to travel to four games…but then you knew that.

H OBAMA

May 25th, 2009
12:02 am

DIRTYDAWG THANKS FOR STANDING UP FOR ME MY LITTLE LACKEY. I AM PROUD THAT YOU ARE PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL WHICH MEANS THAT THERE MIGHT BE ENOUGH STUPID AND GULLIBLE PEOPLE TO REELECT ME FOR ANOTHER TERM SO I THE WORLDS GREATEST MUSLIM CAN FINISH DESTROYING THIS DEVIL COUNTRY WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT. FIRST I DESTROY THE ECOMOMY AND THEN TAKE YOUR FREEDOM SO THEN YOU WILL NOT NOTICE WHEN I REPLACE FOOTBALL WITH SOCCER. THANKS AGAIN MY LITTLE MSNBC DUMMY FOR NOT LISTENING TO THOSE THAT OPPOSE My socialist PLANS. EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO PUFF SOME WEED ER ER CIGS.

H OBAMA

May 25th, 2009
12:27 am

I SUPPOSE MY REPLY TO DIRTYDAWG WAS TOO CLOSE TO HOME FOR MY LIBERAL FOLLOWER SO MY COMMENTS WERE REMOVED EVEN THOUGH NO PROFANITY OR STUPID STATEMENTS WERE WRITTEN. THANKS AJC FOR SHOWING YOUR TRUE PREJUDICE. I RESPECT THE OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS GIVEN BY RUSH. HANNITY ETC BECAUSE THEY ARE SMARTER THAN ME AND DIRTYDAWG BUT I STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO FOOL A LOT OF LEMMINGS SUCH AS MY DIRTYDAWG AND THE AJC.

H OBAMA

May 25th, 2009
12:32 am

OOPS YOU PUT MY COMMENTS BACK UP. THANKS AJC. WE STILL LOVE YOU AND DIRTYDAWG. WHOA JOE QUIT PULLING ON THE LEASH AND NO MORE COMMENTS

SC Rules!!!

May 25th, 2009
2:15 am

shane#1,

Well put on all points my friend!!! Long time no blog, how are the Dawgs shapin’ up? We both have several holes to fill, y’all on offense us, well ONLY THE THREE GREATEST LB’s EVER!!! Cush & Rey Rey will have monster rookie seasons! Clay will have a solid one too I suspect but not as much of an immediate impact as the other two. But don’t feel to sorry for us in that dept. Coach Carroll has the cupboard well stocked, after spring practice wrapped up he told ABC 7 (L.A.) that he felt the Defense was going to actually be “BETTER” this season than last. Last season we finished #1 D while only giving up 6.8 pts per game (this after the 24 in the Rose) with a per play yardage yield of .8 yds per play. I saw a glimpse of the new guys during a few practices, man I can’t wait for the ‘09 season to get started!!!!
Hope you’re ahveing a great Memorial Day weekend, Semper Fi!!!

SC Rules!!!

May 25th, 2009
2:23 am

Vol fans:

Man are we (SC Fans) glad Jr. is y’alls problem now! After the Raiders pulled the plug on him there were ruimors he was headed back to us. (the horror) He was a twit then and he’s even more so now, you would have our sympathies but then again y’all don’t seem to have much love loss for us, so why should we care about the pain and suffering y’all are in for! To bad so sad. I have much respect for the SEC (less Les) but that hiring by y’all is gunna sting for quite some time. Hope y’all have plenty of Goodies headache powder. Fight On!!!

DirtyDawg

May 25th, 2009
9:41 am

Since nobody’s paying any further attention to this thread, I suppose it’s probably superfluous to do this, but I can’t help myself. To whoever the hell H OBAMA is, and/or was, in earlier posts, you have made my point for me. If you truly believe the crap you posted here – your attempts at facetiousness and/or sarcasm notwithstanding – then you are indeed one of those dumbass peckerwoods that permeates this blog and, indeed, this state. Despite you and those like you, we’ll bring Georgia back to the 21st Century one of these days – starting with Roy Barnes back in office to scour the feces off the Capitol Dome left by your boy Sonny P.

H OBAMA

May 26th, 2009
11:16 pm

DIRTY DAWG LIKE YOU I COULD NOT HELP MYSELF BUT TO REPLY TO YOUR IGNORANT RANT. YOU ARE NO WAY A DAWG FAN AND BE A LIBERAL. LIBERALS PLAY SOCCER AND SUCK UP TO LEFTIST POLITICIANS THAT HAVE A PLAN TO RUIN THIS COUNTRY AND PRACTICE IN THE MASS MURDER OF UNBORN CHILDREN. DO YOU SUPPORT ABORTION? IF SO WHY DON’T YOU ABORT YOUR SELF ALONG WITH ANY CO CONSPIRATORS, ROY BARNES IS A CROOK BUT TO A LIBERAL THAT DOESN’T MATTER. MOVE BACK TO CALIFORNIA AND FIGHT FOR THE RIGHT TO MARRY YOUR BOY FRIEND. YOU ARE A GAY LIBERAL RACIST IN LOVE WITH BARNEY FRANK. ANY OF YOUR FUTURE POSTS ARE IRREVELANT AND NO ONE WILL BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY. POST NO MORE LIL BARNEY.

True Champion

June 1st, 2009
10:09 am

President Obama and Rep. (TX) Joe Barton have every right to question a bowl system that is unjust and hold those accountable for making it just. The AJC asking SEC football coaches if Congress should be involved is laughable. Of course the SEC commissioner, SEC athletic directors and SEC coaches are not going bite the bowl system that feeds them.