Does the Prez even UNDERSTAND the BCS?

 

Once again it is Fearless Friday, Memorial Day Edition. This is where you are free to sound off on any topic, even if it’s non football related.

On a programming note: We’re going to take a break for the holiday weekend and will rejoin you on Tuesday for the annual SEC Meetings in Destin. Given some of the stuff that has happened among the league’s football coaches since national signing day, that first coaches meeting should be a lot of fun.

 

Until then, here are five burning questions to ponder. Feel free to talk among yourselves:

Does President Obama even UNDERSTAND the BCS? The new president is a pretty smart man but Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany recently told USA Today: “He’s a scholar and a lawyer and a great politician. But I don’t think he understands the complexity of the issue.”

  

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2009-05-20-jim-delany-obama-bcs_N.htm

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, it gets better.

“It’s very hard to be disagreeable with a popular president, that’s my first thought. The reality is that he has a pulpit and people listen. I think his strength is probably basketball brackets.”

What does this mean? It’s simple. For the longest time the conference commissioners who make up the BCS have simply been on defense. They were convinced—and still are—that the law is on their side.

But we are in a totally different political climate now where having the law on your side may not be enough. So this is another example of the BCS starting to go on offense. Stay tuned.

 

Does the transfer rule need to be changed?  Former Miami quarterback Robert Marve has announced that he will transfer to Purdue instead of Tennessee. Marve started 11 of 13 games last season for Miami but left the program. One of the factors that pushed Marve to Purdue was that if he attended Tennessee he would have to pay his own way for the 2009-2010 academic year. Why? It’s because Miami would not release him from his scholarship to play for any ACC or SEC team.  And if a school doesn’t officially release a player, he cannot receive an athletic scholarship from another Division I-A school for a year.

 That rule needs to be changed. I still believe that players transferring from one Division I-A school to another should have to sit out a year. But if the kid is willing to sit out a year, I don’t believe his old school should be able to restrict where he transfers. The scholarship contract is already one-sided enough in favor of the school.

What do you think?

 

Are coaches are going to have to take furloughs, too? Here’s a good piece of reporting by Glenn Guilbeau of the Gannett News Service about how universities, like a lot of businesses, are dealing with tough economic times by asking employees to take furloughs of one or two weeks. Arizona State, Clemson, Maryland and Utah are among the schools that have already implemented furloughs. Others will surely follow.

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20090518/SPORTS/90517019/1006

There may be some debate about what coaches will be required to do if their university implements furloughs. But if they are smart the coaches won’t say a word and will “donate” a week’s salary to the cause. Politically, you can’t have the academic side struggling to survive and have the athletic side not pitching in to do its part.

 LSU’s Les Miles, for example, makes $3.751 million per season as the head football coach. But it is logical that he would have to donate only from this base pay of $300,000, which is the only part paid by the university. The rest comes from other sources.

 

Does Lane Kiffin deserve a break on the Twitter NCAA violation? Yes. Like all of the football coaches who now have Twitter accounts, Kiffin has somebody to do the actual Tweeting for him.  An employee on his first day posted a reference to J.C. Copeland, a defensive end from LaGrange who had just verbally committed to sign with Tennessee next February. That’s a no-no by NCAA rules. You can’t mention recruits by name until they sign on the dotted line. Tennessee self-reported the minor violation, its fourth since Kiffin came on board as head coach.

Expect more of this kind of stuff until coaches become more comfortable with the technology and get the staff up to speed on the complex recruiting rules. I am not ruling out the possibility that the NCAA will eventually put a ban on coaches Tweeting just like they did with text messaging. Like most things that are done for recruiting, this one has the potential to get out of hand.

 

Will Kentucky will win the SEC—in men’s basketball?  I know this a football blog but last week I was in Lexington, Ky., on business and I’ve got to tell you—that place is up for grabs. The excitement level was off the charts about the arrival of John Calipari as head basketball coach. Well, it looks like that $4 million a year is already paying off. Now Calipari has added the No. 1 point guard in America, John Wall of Raleigh, to what was already one of the nation’s top recruiting classes. That just shows you the biggest difference between football and basketball. A dynamic coach can sign one big-time recruiting class and totally transform the program. The downside to that is all of those guys could leave after one year.

 

Enjoy your holiday, folks. Please be careful. We’ll talk to you next Tuesday from Destin.

 

 

169 comments Add your comment

Dave

May 22nd, 2009
12:49 pm

WOW, and say FOOTBALL is a contact sport!!!

Nachos

May 22nd, 2009
12:58 pm

Eric – You are a barner AND an Obama supporter? Wow, you are the definition of the word LOSER. Fear Chizik !

Urban Warfare

May 22nd, 2009
1:04 pm

Tony, I wholeheartedly agree about the transfer rules being one sided. If the coach that was there leaves for any reason, a player should have the right to go anywhere they want with NO restrictions! And if THE player makes the decision to leave, he shoulf sit out a year and then be free to go where ever the next. As far as politicians getting involved here, it’s ok for them to express an opinion, but they should have enough other things to do! As far as the Kiffin twitter thing, I think at the very least it was stupid for him/them to let a new person, who was obviously unqualified, to be handling communications for the HC. Or maybe “Layla”, in her earlier post, said it best.

G8R GRAD

May 22nd, 2009
1:07 pm

“Once again it is Fearless Friday, Memorial Day Edition. This is where you are free to sound off on any topic, even if it’s non football related.”

Taking Tony at his word, here are the results of the SEC baseball tournament:
Thursday
UF defeated Ole Miss;
LSU defeated UA;
Arkansas defeated UGA; and
Vandy defeated USC.

Friday
UF to play UGA (winner to play Vandy tomorrow); and
LSU to play USC (winner to play Arkansas tomorrow).

GO GATORS!

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 22nd, 2009
1:07 pm

Our President is too busy lying about Gitmo, campaign finance reform, immediate withdrawl from Iraq, transparency, earmarks, and running Government Motors to deal with the BCS.

I think he’s also going to over to John Edwards modest little 28,000 sq. ft shack in Raleigh to play some one on one basketball. Winner gets to fly Air Force One around NYC. Loser gets water-boarded for 10 seconds by Nancy Pelosi (don’t worry, she’s already forgotten).

Joe Biden was going to officiate, but he thought Hilary Clinton would do a better job.

Coming soon the Barney Frank hotdog eating contest sponsored by AIG and ACCORN.

Urban Warfare

May 22nd, 2009
1:10 pm

STOP the Madness!!!

DawgGirl32

May 22nd, 2009
1:24 pm

Actually G8R GRAD, UGA beat Arkansas yesterday and will get a bye week to rest. The Gators will play Arkansas in the elimination game tomorrow….not Georgia.

DawgGirl32

May 22nd, 2009
1:27 pm

Actually G8R GRAD, UGA beat Arkansas yesterday and don’t play again til Saturday. The Gators play Arkansas in the elimination game tomorrow…not Georgia.

AUtiger

May 22nd, 2009
1:34 pm

Bammers, Dogs, and alike. I’m glad my comments got you a little ticked off. Exactly what I was trying to do. Just a game. Happy Memorial Day!

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
1:39 pm

In Super Regional action, BAMA softball plays Jacksonville St. in 20 minutes on ESPN2. Game 2 is tomorrow at noon on ESPN. Game 3 will not be necessary.

Next stop: Oklahoma City for the World Series. RTR!

GeoffDawg

May 22nd, 2009
1:43 pm

yuck – that Barney Frank hotdog comment just gave me the willies.

reservoirDAWG

May 22nd, 2009
1:56 pm

No doubt Geoff.

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
1:59 pm

Tech and UGA both host Super Regionals and could join the Tide in OKC.

About a month ago, Bama played at Tech in the new stadium. It was standing room only. Bama took both games (10-0, 8-0) with the mercy rule.

This season Bama was 3-0 against UGA with two mercy rulings.

Tide rising

May 22nd, 2009
2:04 pm

Ramble on,

I’ll promise to never ever say a negative about Tech if you promise to never bring up Barney Frank and hot dogs again.

I’m outta here. Straight out the door and to the beach condo at Gulf Shores. Everyone have a great Memorial Weekend. That even includes you barners.

Gen Neyland

May 22nd, 2009
2:16 pm

SEC fan : You failed to mention UT signed the #1 rated recruit in the nation. You overlooked that there are still 15-20 coaches still on staff. You simply missed the part that all starters and other key elements remain onboard and continue to grow into the new system. What, a top 10 recruiting class for this guy in his first year..? Perplexing isn’t it..?

Gen Neyland

May 22nd, 2009
2:20 pm

Tide Rising : Have a great trip. We were at Perdido during this year’s Mullet Toss. I hear it came down to Tebow and John Bubba Parker Wilson in the finals…

Lane "Shirt-Rippin' Kiffin

May 22nd, 2009
2:30 pm

Gen Neyland

Let’s just hope none of my recruits violate their probation. I’m sure somebody will WHINE about it.

Bellefay1

May 22nd, 2009
2:31 pm

I can see Delany’s point about the BCS being too complex for mortals to understand…Kind of like calling a league of 11 teams, the Big 10.

Jumbeauxtiger

May 22nd, 2009
2:38 pm

Tony, let us know when you find out in Destin what games CBS and ESPN have selected to telecast.

Cuz

May 22nd, 2009
2:42 pm

First the banks, then the auto industry, now College football. Next thing you know the government will try to take over health care.

G8R GRAD

May 22nd, 2009
2:43 pm

DawgGirl32:

Many thanks and as many apologies!

As of 1:00 this afternoon, bleacherreport.com had it as I reported it.
They have since corrected their site.
Thanks again, and happy Memorial Day weekend to everyone!

reservoirDAWG

May 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm

I don’t think Barry understands much, so I think he needs to keep his nose out of college football.

DawgGirl32

May 22nd, 2009
2:56 pm

You too G8R GRAD!! Have fun and stay safe everyone! :)

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
3:19 pm

Bama up 7-0 after three innings.

ESPN360 has made work a lot less boring.

JB

May 22nd, 2009
3:22 pm

The better question is, does Delaney understand the BCS? I’m thinking not.

Our Pres, on the other hand, gets the buffoonery that is the BCS.

HBTD!!!!

Got 12?

May 22nd, 2009
3:38 pm

Bama up 9-0 in bottom of fourth.

espn360

May 22nd, 2009
3:41 pm

now my job is much less soul-crushing!

M

May 22nd, 2009
4:23 pm

Objective Commentator….you screwed up and got on the wrong blog again. You and your Daily Kos loonies are over on the Kos or Huffington Post blogs. There, you can wallow all you want in your distortions and make believe world. Folks here think for themselves, and believe in personal freedom too much to swallow what you’re sellin’ !

Ted Striker

May 22nd, 2009
4:27 pm

“So & so doesn’t understand the complexity of the issue” is an attempt to minimize anything the person says on the issue. Fact: The BCS is broken and the guys in charge won’t fix it. I got no problem with someone, anyone else weighing in on it.

Agree with Tony that changes are needed for the transfer rule. Recruits get the short end of the stick when going to another school and coaches — who are highly compensated — play musical chairs with little consequence.

If school employees are to be furloughed, coaches should be in on it too.

Kiffin does NOT deserve a break on the twitter violation. If he designates someone to tweet for him, it’s his responsibility to ensure the person knows the second most basic rule in infractions — don’t comment on unsigned recruits. The first is obviously, don’t pay recruits. Everyone who knows even a minimal bit about college football knows both.

DirtyDawg

May 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm

Stepped away for a while and was gonna just ‘move on’, then I saw a few more posts from the DixieCrat scions that populate this space. Barnhart knew what he was doing when he introduced Barack Obama into a sports discussion blog – and first the tech guys, then the hun and now an ‘M’ – fell for it and started talkin’ sedition. A response seemed appropriate and I presented a few. Frankly, I could have shut the hell up and let Objective commentator words speak for all of us – but, of course, I couldn’t help myself cause you guys are so easy.

Say What

May 22nd, 2009
4:41 pm

M, you’re the pot calling the kettle black if you’re a Fox News or Limbaugh kind of guy. Fans of those wackos sure as hell aren’t thinking for themselves. Does the term “DittoHead” mean anything to you ?
It means “I need somebody to tell me what to think because I’m incapable of doing it myself”.

staff fan now

May 22nd, 2009
4:42 pm

Tony, are you happy with this blog?

shane#1

May 22nd, 2009
5:09 pm

Some points for your consideration, 1- Delaney sure swings a big stick, and how many BCSNCGs has Ohio State played? 2- Can you imagine how Lyndon would have reacted if Texas had been screwed out of the BCS Championship game when he was President? Johnson understood power and was not afraid to use it, so Delaney would have been talking out of the other side of his mouth. 3- Coaches have contracts that include penalties for violating their contracts. West Virginia set a good example for others to follow. I have no problem with what Miami did involving the player. 4- Does Tony have a hidden agenda? This blog would certainly be improved if some of these fans started posting on the political blogs. Hmmm, how sneaky and underhanded Tony, I love it!

Volatile Nation

May 22nd, 2009
7:04 pm

Major rumblings of major problems at Tennessee. Stay tuned!!!

Vol fan

May 22nd, 2009
7:59 pm

Vol Nation, maybe someone from the NCAA is finally asking why 11 players and a coach have now quit the UT football team in the last 6 months. The coach is one Kiffy hired so he has only been there about 5 months. Tony was asked in an earlier posting if he had any idea what was going on. He didn’t post a response so maybe he has already gone on vacation. Whatever the case, I hope Kiffy cleans up his act before he takes away scholarships from more kids. Maybe a few should have gone but 11? It is easy for a coach to run over kids that age and Kiffy seems to really enjoy it.

Gen Neyland

May 22nd, 2009
9:30 pm

Vol fan : A tag like a Bug in a Dawghouse

Reggie

May 22nd, 2009
10:06 pm

Why does all the ignorant and bass akwards commentors 9 NO MATTER WHAT BLOG) haS to a have a (Dawg) attached? This blog should be about football or sports. Toney being the good “southern gentleman” knew what he doing when he invoked the president into the equation with all the dawg fans(read south Ga.) around?

shane#1

May 22nd, 2009
10:50 pm

Reggie, say what about South Ga? Tony, not Toney, just blogged about KIffin getting in trouble for insulting people in a poor area of Fla and now you pop off about South Ga? FYI, we have enough problems down here without your ignorant, racist, statements. Yeah, I know, it’s Delany, not Delaney like I posted earlier. I have a fwe quarters if anyone wants to call someone that gives a rat’s buttocks.

m

May 23rd, 2009
7:57 am

President Obama understands the BCS. He understands that the BCS is the most stupid, idiotic system ever developed, and it should be banned immediately. Only complete tools like Tony Barnyard support it.

We need a 16 team playoff, and we need it now, and I hope that President Obama makes it happen.

Thank God and Greyhound that the bcs of coaches, chan gomer gailey, is gone forever…he should have taken the bcs with him.

Cuz

May 23rd, 2009
11:03 am

Is it safe to talk about football yet?

NaGaNole

May 23rd, 2009
12:43 pm

I have some thoughts to throw out there about a college playoff system. A D-1 college playoff tourney would need to be similar to other contemporary playoff tourneys. I’m concerned about the number of teams you’d need to make it fair. I’m going by memory here, but I believe there are 347 D-1 schools playing basketball. Of those, 65 are invited to the tourney. That’s a little less than 19%. The NFL takes the top 12 teams, or about 35%. The most fair way IMHO would be a 20 team playoff where the top four seeds got a bye in the first round. That would be a little less that 20% of the 112 playing FBS D-1 football. Under that idea, you’d have those 2 championship teams playing an extra 5 weeks of football, possibly with a bye if one of those teams were one of the top 4 seeds. The championship game wouldn’t be played until mid Jan, long after most colleges were back from winter break. I don’t know if it’s right to ask these kids to play that long. What do you think?

Other schools not playing have more time for recruiting. You think that being the the playoff would give you an edge, but it gives time for the coaches at other schools more face time with recruits. Do you wanna watch a school that doesn’t make the tourney or gets knocked out early spending time with recruits on the fence with your school? You might ask why a team in the tourney can’t be out there also. That’s almost impossible with just a week before another game to get practice in and coaches out into kid’s homes. This might ensure more parody in college football. Who knows?

How would money be distributed back to the schools? A shortcut to this would be using existing bowls to host this game. What do you do with the other bowls? Fans enjoy seeing their teams playing, even if it’s a meaningless game. If you give control of the playoff tourney to the networks, how would that work? Money needs to make it’s way back to all the conferences. In a playoff system, you might have some conferences that don’t even get invited. If might give conference champs an auto invite, but then it’s open game. If one or two conferences put in multiple teams, do they get bigger cuts?

There are other questions too. Can you still play FCS teams? What polls do you use to place teams in the tourney? The Harris poll is a joke. Should a conference team ranked outside the top 20 still be allowed in? The list goes on…

TLH Gator

May 23rd, 2009
1:54 pm

President Obama appears to be just a fan of competitive sports, like me and many of you. It is simply wrong that college football, my favorite sport, does not have a competitive postseason to determine its champion.

College football has systemic problems not dissimilar to the institutions that have contributed to our current economic condition. It is an oligarchy controlled by the BCS conferences that limits access to the golden goose that is television revenue. This system primarily enriches member schools, athletic departments and coaches. Just like the banking/financial services industry, it only looks out for its own well-being and ignores the long-term best interests of its customers.

It also places sycophants in the media who either have previously benefitted from the system or may in the future. These defenders of the bowl “tradition” use any inane argument to divert public sentiment from what is right – a 16 team playoff.

All the arguments not to establish such a playoff are a smoke-screen for the bottom line issue – sharing television revenues with non-BCS schools. If President Obama can contribute to the effort to shine the light of truth on this debate, more power to him. The more the BCS conferences, schools, coaches and bowl reps can be shown to be more interested in greed than competitive fairness, the better.

Preston

May 23rd, 2009
2:49 pm

Say What, Anyone that listens to one news source is vulnerable to mind control. You’re obviously a liberal for calling Rush a whacko. That whacko sure has done well for himself and makes a great deal of sense to people that really do listen to all angles of the political spectrum. Why is it that liberal talk shows don’t make it? Because the liberal host gets made a fool of by people that are truly educated and have a grasp on reality in terms of what’s best for our great nation. Hopefully the current president will stay out of college football because he’s already screwing up enough.

Jack P

May 23rd, 2009
2:51 pm

How can the President understand the complications of the BCS when he can’t understand the basics of economics. He is destroying our economy and is too stupid to realize it.

Preston

May 23rd, 2009
4:16 pm

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage.”
[Alexander Tyler]

Now which party do you suppose promises the most money from the public treasury by means of vote buying? If you don’t know the answer, please don’t vote!

shane#1

May 23rd, 2009
5:51 pm

I do mot choose to discuss politics on this or any other blog. This country is greater than any politician and greater than any political party. Obama will not be the end of this country nor will any other president. Be;ieve me, we have had worse. So you guys evjoy your politics but remember those that gave their all so you could air your opinions. I am goimg to raise a glass to absent friends and say thanks.

Loser Lane

May 23rd, 2009
6:13 pm

You think RUSH is a wacko?? I”LL show you a wacko!!!

Dave

May 23rd, 2009
6:21 pm

I love these people (Republicans)who attempt to lay the woes of the economy at the feet of Obama after a little over 100 days in office! I guess the previous EIGHT years never happened!!! NEWS FLASH!! It’s gonna take a whole lot more than 100 days to untangle the mess we substained under the “Bush” league government! The Republicans right now look like a bunch of old men with a bunch of old ideas, and that’s coming from someone who used to be one…

JimC

May 23rd, 2009
7:25 pm

The federal government has absolutely no right to meddle with the BCS. This is just one more example of Obama and his leftist buddies wanting to control everything.

Dog in TN

May 23rd, 2009
7:31 pm

The Prez does not understand his job, or our constitution. The BCS is definietly above his head.