ACC Atlantic: What we still don’t know

Spring practice has been over for a couple of weeks and so it’s time to take final looks at the teams in the ACC and SEC before we take our break in June. So here is our game plan for the week:

Today: ACC Atlantic

Tuesday: ACC Coastal

Wednesday: SEC East

Thursday: SEC West

Friday: Tony’s post-spring Top 25

This week we’ll just analyze the teams in alphabetical order. Before we break in June we’ll project the order of finish. If you want to debate the order of finish right now, please be my guest.

 

ACC ATLANTIC

BOSTON COLLEGE

Last season: 9-5, 5-3 ACC; lost to Vanderbilt 16-14 in Music City Bowl.                             

Starters returning: Offense 7, defense 7, kickers 2.

Coach: Frank Spaziani (1st year).

What we still don’t know: Who will be the quarterback, Dominique Davis or Justin Tuggle? Both Davis, a sophomore, and Tuggle, a redshirt freshman, struggled in the spring so the competition will continue into fall camp under new offensive coordinator Gary Tranquill. Who is going to play DT?  B.J. Raji was the No. 9 player taken in the 2009 NFL Draft. Ron Brace had 30 career starts. Both are gone and no one has stepped up yet. Damik Scafe (6-3, 293) and Kaleb Ramsey (6-3, 256) are the likely candidates. Frank Spaziani is a rookie head coach at the age of 62. How is that going to work out?

Opening game: Sept. 5 vs. Northeastern.

 

CLEMSON

Last season:  7-6, 4-4; lost to Nebraska 26-21 in Gator Bowl.

Starters returning: Offense 7, defense 8, kickers 0.

Coach: Dabo Swinney, 4-3 in his second season.

What we still don’t know: Is Kyle Parker really going to be the guy at quarterback? The redshirt freshman from Jacksonville impressed a lot of people with his arm this spring and appears to have the edge over highly-regarded sophomore Willy Korn. Parker split his time between spring football and baseball, so it will be interesting to see how he responds when two-a-days arrive in August. Who will be the placekicker? Mark Buchholz made 88 consecutive extra points as Clemson’s placekicker and connected on 15 of 21 field goals last season. Redshirt freshman Spencer Benton seemed to have the edge over redshirt junior Richard Jackson but Swinney has not named a starter. Will new defensive coordinator Kevin Steele give that unit a little more toughness? The early returns say yes. If DE Ricky Sapp, who had ACL surgery in December, is ready to go in August, this could be a pretty salty bunch. We also think DE Da’Quan Bowers will be a star.

First game: Sept. 5 vs. Middle Tennessee.

 

 

FLORIDA STATE

Last season:  9-4, 5-3 ACC; beat Wisconsin 42-14 in Champs Sports Bowl.

Starters returning: Offense 8, defense 5, kickers 0.

Coach: Bobby Bowden, 382-123-4 overall, 309-91-4 in 33 seasons at Florida State.

What we still don’t know:  Who is going to play wide receiver? Greg Carr is gone after a very good four-year career and Preston Parker, who caught 104 passes in the past three seasons, was kicked off the team in February. Taiwan Easterling missed spring practice as he recovered from an Achilles heel injury. If Easterling is back at full strength it will probably be he and Bert Reed, who caught 23 passes last season. Redshirt senior Richard Goodman returns to the team after sitting out all of the 2008 season (broken leg). “We have talent at that position. What we don’t have is experience,” head coach Bobby Bowden said. “I think we’ll be okay there.” Can Kevin McNeal and Markus White replace Everette Brown and Neefy Moffett? Brown and Moffett  combined for almost 20 sacks and 30 tackles for loss, so the short answer is no. But White is a former national JUCO player of the year and should shine as a senior.

Opening game:  Sept. 7 vs. Miami.

 

MARYLAND

Last season:  8-5, 4-4 ACC; beat Nevada 42-35 in Humanitarian Bowl.

Starters returning: Offense 6, defense 4, kickers 1.

Coach: Ralph Friedgen, 64-36 in eight season at Maryland.

What we still don’t know:  Will a rebuilt offensive line give RB Da’Rel Scott a fighting chance? Scott ran for 1,133 yards in 2008, the third best effort ever for a sophomore running back at Maryland. But this season the Terps have to replace three offensive linemen who combined for 86 career starts. Can the defense improve under new coordinator Don Brown? Maryland finished ninth in the ACC in scoring defense (22.5 ppg) but gave up 100 points in its last three games. Brown, the head coach at UMass the past five seasons, has only four returning starters as he enters fall camp. “I felt very good about the progress we made on defense (during the spring),” Friedgen said. QB Chris Turner is 6-1 as a starter against teams ranked in the Top 25. But last season Maryland lost to Middle Tennessee (5-7) and Virginia (5-7). “We need for Chris to be consistent every week,” Friedgen said. Can Turner be consistent against the lower rated teams?

First game:  Sept. 5 at California.

 

N.C. STATE

Last season:  6-7, 4-4 ACC; lost to Rutgers 29-23 in papajohns.com Bowl.

Starters returning: Offense 7, defense 7, kickers 1.

Coach: Tom O’Brien, 86-59 overall, 11-14 in two seasons at N.C. State.

What we still don’t know: Can Toney Baker come all the way back? Baker rushed for 1,272 yards in 2005 and 2006 but has missed almost all of the past two seasons with injuries. But it will be hard on Baker because there are so many questions left about the offensive line. “It remains an area of concern,” O’Brien said. Will QB Russell Wilson run less? Yes, and O’Brien is going to see to it. Wilson became the first freshman in conference history be named the All-ACC quarterback last season. He recovered from a knee injury suffered in the bowl game and split time between football and baseball in the spring. “We’ve got to save his legs,” O’Brien said of Russell, who threw for 1,955 yards and ran for 388 more. Russell will enter the season having completed 249 consecutive passes without an interception. O’Brien has not ruled out the possibility that sophomore Mike Glennon will factor into the mix at quarterback. “He expects to compete for the job,” O’Brien said.

First game:  Sept. 3 vs. South Carolina.

 

WAKE FOREST

Last season: 8-5, 4-4 ACC; beat Navy 29-19 in Eagle Bank Bowl.

Starters returning: Offense 9, defense 4, kicker 1.

Coach: Jim Grobe, 87-77-1 overall, 54-44-0 in eight years at Wake Forest.

What we still don’t know:  Can the Deacons replace LB Aaron Curry, the number 4 draft choice? No, but Grobe thinks this will be the deepest group of linebackers he’s had in nine seasons at Wake Forest. What are they going to do about Sam Swank? Swank was one of the nation’s best punter/placekickers going into the 2008 season. Injuries limited his play as a senior but he will still be missed. Shane Popham, the apparent replacement, injured his knee in the last week of spring practice. But the job may fall to a true freshman, Jimmy Newman of Oxford, Ala., who some consider the top high school placekicker in the country. Who is going to be the big-play wide receiver? Senior quarterback Riley Skinner enters 2009 having completed 67.3 percent of his career passes. But with D.J. Boldin (77 catches) gone, Skinner needs a home-run threat at wide receiver to stretch the field. Wake Forest has eight proven receivers, including Devon Brown (10 catches), Jordan Williams (8 catches), Marshall Williams (25 catches). One of them has to step up.

First game:  Sept. 5 vs. Baylor

 

 

148 comments Add your comment

JB

May 11th, 2009
8:49 am

OK m, where are you………….Eating Captain Crunch in your Star Trek PJ’s if I had to guess….
ACC…your time to spin this exciting football !!!!! LMAO

athensdawg

May 11th, 2009
8:57 am

uga needs to put clempson back on their schedule.

as I predicted many many years ago, joining the ACC was the worst thing that miami and fsu could do for their programs. Rather than being challenged every week, they were going to just dominate and then get lazy and start falling off. And, look at what has happened. Both schools have adjusted to play to the level of their competition.

They should have joined the SEC……but that didn’t guarantee a cupcake lined path to the MNC….and that was why they did what they did.

Lane "Shirt-Rippin" Kiffin

May 11th, 2009
9:01 am

I thought Boston College was in the Ivy League

Fools Gold

May 11th, 2009
9:12 am

What we do know about UGa…. Sorry defense, No proven QB with a lot of game experience as well at RB. WRs unable to make catches and in clutch situations. Strenght and conditioning lacks. Discipline problems are now rearing its ugly head again. CMR afraid to travel to play good football programs. The slide continues just like the baseball team. Need I say more!

Saint Nick

May 11th, 2009
9:14 am

Who cares!!!! If you lose to Vandy, you should be automatically sent to FCS!!!!

Huh?

May 11th, 2009
9:16 am

Once again Tony, we still don’t know why anyone should care about the ACC Atlantic. That question alone could generate days worth of discussion. The ACC is the most boring and irrelevant football conference in the BCS. This is without dispute.

Not Disappointed

May 11th, 2009
9:20 am

“Don’t Throw Stones in a Glass house SEC!!” “Ramble Wreck!”

Otto

May 11th, 2009
9:22 am

The PAC10 puts up a good debate on the most boring. Really who is going to challenge USC? The ACC is a bunch of decent teams and irrelevant.

JB

May 11th, 2009
9:23 am

damn fools gold, one 3 point win in eight years has made you , well, a typical Tech Fan….Let me tell you, we feel about ya’ll like Florida did about us when we beat them in 2007. ” ONCE IN A BLUE MOON “.

Achtung baby

May 11th, 2009
9:40 am

Otto, look for Oregon to give USC a run for their money in the Pac 10. And BC to step up in the ACC-A.

Seriously

May 11th, 2009
9:41 am

I love when uga fans will talk about UF dominating them to try and prove a point to GT fans! Seriously JB, thats embarrassing. I would say that the Big 10 is the most boring, followed by BE.

ACC Fan

May 11th, 2009
9:42 am

The last 3 ACC-CG winners have come from the ACC-Coastal, and it looks like it will continue to for a while. FSU dominated previous years. But….this aint the same FSU and Miami teams of the past. So, I dont expect those two teams to own the ACC for a while.

Given all of the teams and their current & recent status, I just dont see FSU, NCSt, Wake, MD, Clemson, or BC winning the ACC for the next 3-4 years.

So, that means it’ll be the Coastal, and likley GT, VT, UVA, or UNC as likely ACC champs over the next 3-4 years. Further, it’s likely to come down to GT and VT.

And, knowing where GT stands right now, IMHO, GT stands to win a few ACC crowns over next 3-5 years.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 11th, 2009
9:43 am

Will Roddy Jones will be able to run 16.9 yards per carry against any of these teams like UGAg?

I don’t think so but it should be interesting.

Huh?

May 11th, 2009
9:50 am

At least the Pac 10 puts up some points and is fun to watch. When Oregon State beat USC last year that was a highlight of the season that affected the entire college football landscape. Did anybody give two craps when some two bit ACC team like Miami upset the eventual ACC champion last year? I think not. The ACC is like watching a bunch of drunk monkeys fight over the last bannana. Its an embarrassment to the sport to be quite honest. 90% of the posts on this blog will be about the SEC and/or Georgia. And these idiots wonder why everyone says the ACC is so irrelevant. They aren’t the brightest bulb on the christmas tree. That’s for sure.

JB

May 11th, 2009
9:53 am

Seriously seriously, being a Tech fan would be embarrassing to me. you guys think you’ve arrived with Johnson, and you are better, but thinking you are going to beat us regularly is not going to happen. You won by THREE points with the most disappointing team in the Mark Richt era.

Dorsey Hill

May 11th, 2009
10:07 am

ACC Atlantic: Why we still don’t care

gotech 610

May 11th, 2009
10:12 am

Otto, and who is going to challenge Florida? LSU, Alabama maybe but other than that, USC has usually has their one loss as well. PAC-10 and the SEC are going to have a lot in common this year as far as that goes. Auburn has got a certified coach who went 2-10 last year, he’s really going to make the Tigers great. The ACC beat up on each other the most last year IMO and had more challenges as far in interconference battles goes that any other conference. Not saying the ACC is more powerful than any other conference but last year was anything but boring. In fact, it was probably the most interesting to watch because each week someone was knocking off another. Unlike the SEC where it was a run away with LSU and Bama, everyone knew they were the front runners way early.

DawginLex

May 11th, 2009
10:12 am

I will stay on topic and take the road les traveled. I want to see NC state put a butt whooping on the ol’ ball coach on opening day.

I want to see South Carolina have a losing season.
I want the fans and alumni to run him out of Columbia.
I want to see somebody put up 50 on him at home and kick a FG with under a minute to go while winning by 40.

ACC Fan

May 11th, 2009
10:19 am

JB:

HAHAHAHAHAHA….the most disappointing team in the CMR era???? Good one!!!!

I got BAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDD news for ya. Looking at the Mutts 2009 schedule, you can just go ahead and book losses to: OKSt, Ark, and LSU…even BEFORE you get destroyed again by FL. And those losses dont even factor in games vs. USC, Auburn, Ky, or GT.

No, 2009 will definitely be THE WORST season in CMR’s tenure at UGA. Watching all you Mutts throw Superman CMR under the bus at end of season is gonna be a thing of beauty to watch.

gotech 610

May 11th, 2009
10:21 am

JB, that should have been the best team under the Mark Richt Era. Mark Richt will never win a NC, if he had the type of players he had last year and couldn’t do it, much less even win their division, embarrassed by Bama, beaten by GT by giving up 28 points in one quarter. Let’s see shall we, here is the difference between Paul Johnson’s GT team and Mark Richt’s UGA team. GT down 18 points at the half 28-10 in a hostile environment between the hedges. Mark Richt’s team let’s down, quits fighting, thinks they won the battle. Paul Johnson’s team keeps fighting, overcomes a large margin of points, still beats their opponent even though UGA scores 2 more TD’s. There’s the difference and exactly why UGA will never win a NC under Mark Richt, they may make some noise in the division but that’s about it. But whatever that’s fine Saint Richt does no wrong, eventhough 3 more of his players are kicked off the team and/or stripped of playing time over the weekend. Paul Johnson’s camp is quiet, players are behaving, we have one back from an accusation, and that’s the way we like it.

JB

May 11th, 2009
10:22 am

WOW, ACC Fan,tell us about the economy in the 3 rd/4th Quarter……..

Otto

May 11th, 2009
10:27 am

Tech has a coach that won in AA and a few games at the Academy. Auburn’s coach had 2 perfect seasons as DC in the 2 toughest conferences and then went to one of the historical worst CFB programs in the country.

Bama, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, UGA and possibly Arky can challenge UF in the near future. Fortunes can change very quickly in the SEC. One upset is all it takes to change the SEC standings. Last year it came ealry with Ole Miss over UF. The question is which game and how important will it be. Upsets were the standard in the ACC last year. One team gets rolling only to be let down. There is no tension.

The PAC10 games aren’t exciting if I wanted points I’d watch BasketBall. A 14-10 slugfest in the SEC is vastly more exciting than 35-28 games in the PAC10.

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 11th, 2009
10:29 am

JB, keep it coming. You are a genius!!!

BHWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

JB

May 11th, 2009
10:36 am

Ramble on……..nice handle……One win in eight years and you guys are out of the closet everywhere.
The fact is the ACC has no National appeal, including your beloved Jackets. It’s a boring brand. Very few people care.

Atlanta Gator

May 11th, 2009
10:43 am

Predicted 2009 finish for ACC Atlantic Division—-

(1) Florida State (6-2);
(2) Wake Forest (4-4);
(3) Maryland (4-4);
(2) Boston College (4-4);
(5) Clemson (3-5);
(6) N.C. State (3-5)

Florida State begins to reassert itself because of great talent, not great coaching. With a first-year coach, Boston College slides back into the middle of the pack. Wake Forest, with great coaching, struggles to escape the middle of the pack. Maryland is a half-step behind Wake Forest. Clemson, with a newly minted permanent head coach, shows signs of life but does not better its 2008 win-loss record. NC State is among the ACC’s two or three weakest of the weak (the others being UVa and Duke).

Saint Nick

May 11th, 2009
10:46 am

Having an 8-4 team in your CCG is BORING!!!!!!!!!

Saint Nick

May 11th, 2009
10:47 am

Playing a CCG for a chance to go to the BCS NC is PRICELESS!!!!!!ROLLS TIDES!!!!!

Atlanta Gator

May 11th, 2009
10:50 am

As for several of the silly comments about the dominance of the Gators, and the weakness of the rest of the SEC, I say “nonsense.”

The Gators have the talent and coaching to potentially repeat as SEC champions, but, as I have repeatedly written on other occasions, even a very good team has to get a little bit lucky to win it all. The Gators have one eight SEC football championships in the last 19 seasons, and three MNCs during that same time. The Gators have had one undefeated regular season (1995), and proceeded to get destroyed by a great Nebraska team in the Bowl Alliance MNC game that year.

As Ole Miss proved last season, on any given Saturday, virtually any SEC team can beat any other SEC team. Any comment to the contrary is nothing more than smack talk or ignorance of the facts.

Atlanta Gator

May 11th, 2009
10:52 am

Oops—-typo! I meant to write “won eight SEC football championships” not “one eight SEC football championships.” This new blog software could use a spelling/grammar check function.

ACC & SEC grad

May 11th, 2009
10:54 am

AthensDawg: Your argument comparing FSU and Miama is weak because Miama has never won a conference title and we know how Free Shoes U. dominated basically the entire ’90s. Plus, a better argument would be that the Criminoles’ slide, which hasn’t included a losing season like the Canes, started with the exodus from T-hassee of long-time assistants like Richt.

JB: Good analysis with your apt analogy on Tech to Georgia as Georgia is to Florida. It’s refreshing when Dawgs have perspective instead of coming on here with the same old “Who cares?!?” or “the ACC sucks!” Plenty of folks care about this division of the ACC.

Seriously: Good follow-up to JB! And I agree with you on the Big Hen.

ACC Fan: you’re wrong. Wake Forest won the title game in 2006. When your first statement is false, it doesn’t exactly lend great credibility to the rest of your observations/predictions.

JB (again): Still Tech won in the new coach’s first year in the first year of a complete overhaul of the offense and on your home turf. The Jackets will beat you regularly if your team’s tackling performance continues.

Huh?: “Embarrassment to the sport” — really?!? While your drunk monkey simile scores you some points, the over-the-top denunciation of the ACC makes it seem like a 14-year-old with hurt feelings is posting. Come on, dude, you can do better.

Marble Rye

May 11th, 2009
11:04 am

WIth all the hype surrounding Russell at NC State, it’s clear from Tony’s blog entry that LB Nate Irving has completely been overshadowed. Expect this kid to step-up big time this season and show. Don’t be surprised if the sophomore slump hits Russell upside the head.

Last season’s FSU looked far better than they have in the past 5 or so years. I just wonder how all their WR problems will affect the team. Outside of that, I expect them to win the Atlantic. If they fall flat, this is Bobby’s last year.

Clemson will be average yet again as this so-called football-first program hired its third inexperienced coach in a row. Clemson is quickly closing in on the two-decade mark in which it has won absolutely ZERO titles at all. Clemson is becoming the next Ole Miss; a NC too long ago to matter but they still hype themselves anyway. At least the Rebs hired a proven coach because they value what an experienced candidate can do. Clemson doesn’t. Soon they’ll fire Swinney and promote Kevin Steele as HC, assuming Steele sticks around for two years.

Who knows about BC and Wake. Wake is clearly competitive in the ACC but I wonder if their 2006 title was an aberration. Grobe will keep them competing but I’m not certain if he has another ACC title year in his future.

ACC Fan

May 11th, 2009
11:06 am

OKSt is on a title run, at home, first 2009 game. OKST will make a statement by routing UGA. UGA might be lucky vs. USC. Then, Hawgs CRUSH the mutts in Fayetteville. (CMR is no match for Petrino). Then, the hand-wringing in Athens begins. UGA recovers with close win vs. AzSt. Then, the body blow, LSU pounds mutts in Athens. UGA escapes the next week with close win at Tenn(kiffin is a clown). UGA gets close win vs. Vandy. Then, the knock-out punch vs FL, as Urban D-E-S-T-R-O-Y-S CMR, again, on national TV. The following Monday, CMR then makes it official: Martinez is out, telegraphing to UGA fans and players, that the season is officially “OVER.” Mutts then recover vs. TennTech creampuff. UGA beats Auburn, and then loses to Ky. Then, for the final “Kill Shot,” GT rolls 52-18 in a complete laugher in Atlanta.

Yeh, Woof woof. Woof woof.

Pago Flyer

May 11th, 2009
11:06 am

Can the DAWGS just beat fl and gt in something!?

Snooze

May 11th, 2009
11:07 am

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Snooze

May 11th, 2009
11:08 am

Huh? What? They’re talking ACC football? Going back to sleep. Snooooooooooooooooooooooozzzeee!!!

Reality Check

May 11th, 2009
11:09 am

JB is right. You GT fans milk more out of one 3 point win than CBS did with the Survivor series. You won the game last year but the fact is you have not won a relevant bowl game since your 1990 C0- National Championship which was played in a second tier bowl against a team with 3 or 4 losses. I define meaningful bowl as major (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange and BCS NC. I was born in early 70’s and do not remember one of these bowls that GA Tech has played in. Another thing is the ACC is boring, try watching Boston College-NC State, Maryland- Wake Forest, I could go on but the boring matchups in half filled stadiums is endless.

Kid Ray

May 11th, 2009
11:10 am

BC will slowly fall apart – Like the U did after Davis left. Spaz and Tranquill together??? recipe for disaster.

ACC Fan

May 11th, 2009
11:11 am

Oh, more UGA players suspended/arrested/convicted, going back to sleep now.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Stay Away

May 11th, 2009
11:18 am

I’ve enjoyed these blogs so much more now that a certain one letter username has disappeared!

Saint Nick

May 11th, 2009
11:19 am

M’s mother took his computer away from him!!!!!

ugablows

May 11th, 2009
11:23 am

“90% of the posts on this blog will be about the SEC and/or Georgia. And these idiots wonder why everyone says the ACC is so irrelevant.”

no Huh? that would be because 90% of georgie fans are a$$holes

Otto

May 11th, 2009
11:28 am

Kid Ray, I agree with BC. Also who would want to coach in a program that is not Elite and is not allowed to interview for other jobs?

FSU is interesting as they seem to be close to winning an ACC title if they can keep players from being suspended.

ACC Fan

May 11th, 2009
11:31 am

The fact that GT went to Athens and won with practically all Freshman players makes a HUGE statement. IThat fact is: UGA couldnt win at home with a Stafford/Moreno led team against a bunch GT freshmen & sophmores. CPJ is the new sheriff in town.

Gator Growl

May 11th, 2009
11:32 am

Atlanta Gator…I must respectfully (of course) disagree with your analysis of FSU for the coming season as the best I see for them is another status quo performance per the last few years. While I do see some improvement in QB and OL play, there are still far too many question marks at other vital positions both offense and defense. They just lost a top recruit, Willie Downs, to academics and will probably lose one or two more. Also, I think if BB stays much beyond this seasons or perhaps it’s next, they will owe Dumbo Fisher a WHOPPING cool $5 Mill. On second thought maybe he’s not so “dumbo” after all. I think from just the standpoint of improvement thru talent, Miami has got the better chance but I’m convinced that Shannon is Miami’s Ron Zook.

ACC Fan

May 11th, 2009
11:39 am

With a much improved O-Line, and the 2009 GT backfield will lead the nation in rushing and scoring. With the 2009 GT Secondary, GT will lead the nation in INTs.

Forgot to add , UGA had 2 weeks to prepare for GT game….and still lost.

Woof woof.

Seriously

May 11th, 2009
11:41 am

Yeah, and Vandy-UK, Tenn-Vandy, Miss St-Auburn (3-2, are you f-ing serious?) are all thrilling games as well there Reality Check. It goes both ways….like you do

G8R GRAD

May 11th, 2009
11:44 am

DawginLex:

Dang, son, don’t sugar-coat the way you feel about SOS, tell us how you REALLY feel!

Reality Check

May 11th, 2009
11:45 am

ACC fan… Not such a big statement when you figure other teams consistently made UGA defense look horrible. Kentucky put almost 40 points up with a quarterback making his first or second start ever and could not throw. With that being said if UGA defense is not turned around 360 degrees it will be a long year without Stafford/Moreno to prop up defense. LSU and SEC did not have such a big problem with GT with a few more weeks to prepare. It was a bad year all around with beatings by UA, UF, and narrow loss to GT.

Slugfest?

May 11th, 2009
11:50 am

14-10 slugfest? Don’t see many of those in the SEC anymore (outside of Auburn’s 3-2 yawners). Does 41-30 count as a slugfest? What about 49-10? 42-38?

WTF??

May 11th, 2009
11:56 am

I do LOVE COX!!!