Should Urban Meyer apologize to Auburn?

 

 

Once again it’s Fearless Friday where no subject is off limits. Here’s what is catching my eye today. What about you?

 

Should Urban Meyer apologize to Auburn? Florida coach Urban Meyer caused quite a stir this week when he was asked about Auburn’s recruiting limo.

In case you missed it, Auburn’s coaching staff used a white stretch limo with school flags and stickers to visit high schools around the state. No recruits, we have been told, rode in the limo.

Gainesville Sun columnist Pat Dooley asked Meyer whether or not the NCAA should look into the practice. Dooley told me last night that he had read my note last Friday on the limo and mistakenly thought that recruits were getting rides. It was in that context that Dooley asked the question.

When asked about the NCAA stepping in, Meyer said: “I think it should. We’re trying to sell graduation rates and academics…..The Florida coaching staff will not be riding around in limos and ripping off our shirts.”

Boy, Meyer got a twofer on that answer. He not only addressed Auburn’s limo, but he got in a shot at the Tennessee staff of Lane Kiffin, which has been known to rip off its shirts to get the attention of recruits.

At least one columnist, Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel, has called on Meyer to apologize to Auburn because of his comments the way Kiffin was forced to apologize for publicly accusing Meyer of cheating during recruiting. Both claims, Bianchi said, were based on bad information and “What’s good for the Goose is good for the Gator.”

I don’t see it an apology in Meyer’s future.

 No. 1, Meyer was responding to a question from a reporter and simply said that the NCAA should look into the issue. He did not directly charge Auburn with cheating, which is the SEC rule that Kiffin broke. Kiffin was talking to a booster club when he threw the out the cheating claim as red meat to his audience. It won’t surprise me if the NCAA, which has been trying to put some sanity back into the recruiting process, looks into the limo issue and bans the practice the way it banned other excesses.

No. 2, the question gave Meyer a free shot at Tennessee and he took it. Again, he didn’t accuse Tennessee of cheating, which is the rule in question. Yeah, his comment may have come across as a little smug but it just makes the Sept. 19 game in Gainesville with the Vols that much more compelling.

 

A political stunt from the Utah AG: Utah attorney general Mark Shurtleff said this week that he is going to sue the BCS, even if Congress does nothing. Congress held hearings with BCS officials last Friday and did some chest-thumping. But it is not clear if any legislation will be forthcoming.

Shurtleff, who (Surprise! Surprise!) plans a run for the Senate next year or for Governor in 2012, held a fundraiser with Utah coach Kyle Whittingham on April 28 where he charged $300 a head. So Shurtleff is using the BCS issue to build his political war chest and, if necessary, is prepared to spend millions of taxpayer dollars from the citizens of Utah to file a lawsuit about college football. They must have plenty of money in Utah.

 

Kiffin taking a calculated risk with Hood: I am not here to criticize Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin for signing Daniel Hood who, at the age of 13, participated in the kidnapping and rape of a 14-year-old cousin. It appears that Kiffin has done his due diligence and that the kid is truly remorseful. It also appears that the victim has forgiven Hood and has written a letter supporting his intention to enroll at Tennessee.

But I will say two things:

1)      I wouldn’t have signed the kid. I would have helped him find a place to play and go to school where the spotlight is not so glaring. I would wish him well and help him any way that I could if I was convinced he was truly remorseful. But if I’m the coach at a high-profile program like Tennessee, I don’t sign him.

2)      From this point forward, Daniel Hood must be as pure as the driven snow. If he misses curfew or gets suspended for any reason, the press reaction will be brutal.

 

 It sounds like the young man has turned his life around. For his sake and for the sake of the University of Tennessee, I hope it all works out.

Makeup, please

Former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville  is one of several coaches, including Phillip Fulmer, Nick Saban, and Ed Orgeron, who will play themselves in the movie “The Blind Side.” It is adapted from the book by Michael Lewis that tells the story of Michael Oher, who went from being homeless on the streets of Memphis to an All-America offensive tackle at Ole Miss, to a first round NFL draft choice last month.

 

Parts of the movie have already been shot on the Georgia Tech campus. When I saw Tuberville he was on his way to Atlanta to shoot some scenes.

“It’s something a little different,” said Tuberville, who is sitting out this season after being let go at Auburn last year. “I’m kind of anxious to see what the other coaches do.”

FYI. Sandra Bullock and Tim McGraw play Oher’s adoptive parents, Leigh Anne and Sean Tuohy. The movie will be released in November.

 

Don’t forget to call your momma: A million years ago when I was in college, my roommates and I used to watch all of the coaches Sunday football shows which were shown, I believe, during the early days of Ted Turner’s first Atlanta station. The one I always enjoyed most was Alabama’s Bear Bryant and his co-host, Charley Thornton, the long-time Alabama publicist.

Coach Bryant would drink his Coca-Cola and eat his Golden Flake potato chips and talk about the game all the mommas and daddies he had seen the day before.

He would often end the show this way:

“And don’t forget to call your momma. I wish I could call mine.”

I’m happy to report that my momma is still going strong and that we’re going to have lunch on Sunday in Madison. If it wasn’t for her teaching me to love reading and writing I don’t know where I’d be today. I sure wouldn’t have the best job in the world, which is writing and talking about college football.

So if your momma is still with us, make sure you remind her on Sunday how important she is. Trust me. She never gets tired of hearing it.

 

211 comments Add your comment

m

May 8th, 2009
8:48 am

Me & the rest of the bees are totally psyched about going to the new Star Trek movie tonight. I’m even gonna wear my Vulcan ears, but I’m not gonna pay $4.75 for a box of Milk Duds. You people suck.

T

May 8th, 2009
8:52 am

Tony.. do you only cover the SEC nowadays?

NGB

May 8th, 2009
8:59 am

BINGO Charlie,that was a “goodie”,who was that?

Tony Barnhart

May 8th, 2009
9:00 am

T,

Thanks for writing. Next week we are going to break down every team in the ACC. This blog tends to be news driven and most of the news this week, as you can see from today’s blog, involved SEC schools.

If you have a good news story coming out of the ACC, please share it with me.

TB

MonVol

May 8th, 2009
9:03 am

Are you kidding Tony? Mike Slive is so far in Meyer and Foley’s pockets, he’ll be making Auburn issue a formal apology for using the Hummers. Slive will be so mad at Auburn, that he’ll make Lane Kiffin apologize again.
Glad to see you include the information that Hood’s victim wrote to the school to support them signing him. Not enough people know that. He will be on a one strike and you’re done policy. I am admittedly biased in the issue, but the university did their due dilligence in the matter, and if Hood goes through UT without slipping, it would make a tremendous story about the power of forgiveness and redemption.
Happy Mothers Day, Mom…and everybody else’s moms.

AUtiger

May 8th, 2009
9:03 am

I really don’t care about Urban’s comments about the limo. The dude is just a jerk..

PMC

May 8th, 2009
9:08 am

No, as much as I dislike Urban for some other things he’s done. Absolutley not. He owes them nothing. I’m not seeing what he said that was even remotely offensive.

PMC

May 8th, 2009
9:10 am

Utah suing… just makes them look THAT much more irrellevant

Johnny Fontane

May 8th, 2009
9:11 am

I think Ol’ Bear had some Jack in that Coke he was drinking on his show.

Nuggs

May 8th, 2009
9:16 am

Slive is in Urban’s pocket? What a dumb statement. Typical delusiVOL.

Urban was asked a question and he answered it. Much Much different from Kiffin’s loudmouth antics.

People think Meyer is a jerk because he wins at a school they dislike. It’s grasping at straws to try and make yourselves feel better about a team you hate winning like they have lately. It’s pathetic. Trust me you would LOVE to have a coach who others thought was a jerk if he won like that at your school.

[...] Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution sounds off on a number of topics in his final blog of the week… among them:* Urban Meyer probably won’t be apologizing [...]

Otto

May 8th, 2009
9:25 am

The SEC needs to trade the MWC Ark or Miss St for Utah for 4 years and then maybe Utah would shut up. A lawsuit?… What a waste they play a 2nd class schedule and won 2nd place

WTF???

May 8th, 2009
9:35 am

But they sure drummed those damned Elephants in the Sugar Bowl huh? LOL!!!!

Hollywould

May 8th, 2009
9:36 am

Tony, we don’t need no stinkin’ apology. We have beat them the last 2 times we played. I think he is still peeved about the kicker doing the
gator chomp twice after his so-called timeout.

m

May 8th, 2009
9:36 am

Otto…your idiocy is showing.

The only thing second rate that Utah played was a sec west champion alabammmer…and they beat the living crap out of them…in the south…in the beloved sugar bowl.

You sec tools make me laugh at your total stupidity.

jkownit

May 8th, 2009
9:36 am

“Trust me you would LOVE to have a coach who others thought was a jerk if he won like that at your school.”

^^you are dead on, my friend. I heart Coach Saban, and you don’t have to go far (on this site) to see how many people loathe him. RTR

Nuggs

May 8th, 2009
9:38 am

M

How was Utah abused by the BCS? LOOK AT THEIR SCHEDULE.

Weber State, Utah State, San Jose State, Air Force, UNLV, New Mexico, Colorado State and a 3 win Michigan team. That’s A LOT of patsies…

WTF???

May 8th, 2009
9:38 am

m, your momma told me she wants a new son for Mothers Day.

m

May 8th, 2009
9:39 am

Nuggs….you left out the biggest patsie they played….sec west champ alabammmer.

Kenny Powers

May 8th, 2009
9:40 am

M, you are a bonafide dumbsh!t. Playoffs give us the “arizona cardinals” of college football playing in the big dance; when you play cupcake teams all year, you are not as beat up and deserving to get a shot at a title….plus, in these economic times they are suing the BCS with taxpayer money…oh, and they think having multiple wives are a good idea too.

please stop blogging and realize you are not awesome like everyting else in the south, thank you and that is all.

Kenny Powers

May 8th, 2009
9:41 am

And if you hate the BCS so much, create your own NCAA and give yourself your own playoff title each year, GEE I am so awesome.

RxDawg

May 8th, 2009
9:42 am

Hmm, lots of fuel for a fire today. This should be good!
/popcorn

MonVol

May 8th, 2009
9:42 am

Hey Nuggs, we already have a coach that people hate. Now, we’re just waiting on the impending winning. It’ll take about three years. We can wait.
To the alleged JC (that took nerve), it does matter that Hood was 13 when it happened. Most people don’t consider a person a finished product at 13, as was made clear by the punishment the justice system gave him in comparison to what the 17 yr. old got.
The victim forgave him and went to bat for him or Hood would have never gotten the opportunity to even be considered. Her feelings are the ones that matter most. Not Hood’s, Kiffin’s, mine, yours, Tony’s or anyone else’s. She forgave and moved on and was able to know whether or not he was trying to become a better person and make up for the horrific act he committed six years ago. If he slips up in any way, even a traffic ticket, he’ll be gone.

m

May 8th, 2009
9:43 am

No one plays more cupcakes than you sec wannabees. Last year the entire sec was patsies.

Otto

May 8th, 2009
9:43 am

m, you’re the one getting flamed.

Urban Warfare

May 8th, 2009
9:49 am

Haters, don’t hate the winner, hate that YOU’RE NOT!!! They used to REALLY hate Spurrier too, but now that he’s not winning as much, he’s kindof become the legendary cuddly “‘Ol Ball Coach”. Even a Bulldawg friend of mine stated last year “you know, I kindof like ‘ol Spurrier now, I actually always thought he was pretty funny, especially that UT/Citrus Bowl thing.” Yeah, but you didn’t think he was so funny when he was beating your butts every year!! Also about the apology to Auburn, nothing was really said there, no accusations were made. And as far as the shirt ripping comment, I think after the ACCUSATION and some of the things Kiffin has said and after he laughed about getting Nukey Richardson to lie to Meyer and even his own home town/high school (now thats class!), I think Mr Meyer has been extremely restrained! Well, that is until Sept 19!

n

May 8th, 2009
9:52 am

I’m jealous of m.

Mikey

May 8th, 2009
9:53 am

M, Calling Tony an idiot will get you banned from posting, so please keep doing it.

Mikey

May 8th, 2009
9:54 am

I am no fan of the Vols
I am no fan of the Gator

But I sure will be watching on September 19…

WTF???

May 8th, 2009
9:55 am

There is only one SEC coach that I truly dislike, Les Miles. Lame Kitten is walking a thin line. I hate Florida, but I gotta give Urban Cryer props.. The sumbitch can coach football.

Tech Knowlogic

May 8th, 2009
9:56 am

WARNING WARNING m(oron) on the loose! HE DOES NOT REPRESENT US! I REPEAT, HE DOES NOT REPRESENT US!

uga_b

May 8th, 2009
9:59 am

I think the BCS needs to add an evening wear competition to the pageantry of Team Football Champion USA. Maybe we could get Perez Hilton on at the Harris Pole.

FL DAWG

May 8th, 2009
10:00 am

m

Why use tax payer money to sue??? Everyone these days is sue happy. They system does not need to change because Senators and Representatives don’t have better and more important things to attend to or because some guy wants a publicity stunt as he raises money to run for office. It will eventually change. It has been moving in that direction for years. Slowly, yes, but moving. It use to be bowls would just pick who they wanted with no regards to who played who, now we have the BCS, not perfect but does a better job of getting the best teams to play for it. Now we are talking about a plus one, and when that happens it will be a small playoff. It will eventually evolve into 8 teams, but probably not 16 teams. The downfall is that the cost for watching your team will increase per game with the play off system. It is the law of unintended consequences.

Kenny Powers

May 8th, 2009
10:01 am

Monvol, you suck worse than m; your team enables and supports rapists i don’t care what age he was. I was 13 once and comfortably managed not to rape my cousin. He is a headcase and should be institutionalized along with kiffin and his shirt.

Tony Barnhart, please slap the pi$$ out of m and monvol please. And keep writing about the SEC.

BurningRedBleedingBlack

May 8th, 2009
10:02 am

Good stuff TB as always! I feel that all the drama created between all these SEC teams is really going to equal some great football next season. Would be a great time for UGA to fly under the radar and kick some butt! Especially now that the spot light is off us and UF got there revenge on us already for are “end zone dance”. Tony do you feel Tennessee could possibly upset the gators this year? Thanks for the info on the movie sounds like a great movie. How will the SEC fare against the ACC in the rival games this year? And one last question Tony how many games do you have the Bulldawgs winning next year? Keep up the good material your the best! Happy mother day

WTF???

May 8th, 2009
10:07 am

Tony, whats the status of Branden Smith & Orson Charles? They going to have the scores to enroll or are they Hargrave bound?

JB

May 8th, 2009
10:11 am

I don’t know Urban Meyers heart. I know he a great football coach and seems to be a good dad. I do not care for his actions on the sidelines. In the 2007 Fla/Ga game he met his punter 10 yards out on the field and screamed at him ” What the F are you doing, and followed him all the way to the bench screaming at him. It that’ s what it takes to win ( they lost that day), It’s not good for college football. If I was that Boy’s dad, I would not let that slide

Tidefan

May 8th, 2009
10:14 am

Jesus Christ,

First of all it disturbs me that you chose to use that screen name, especially when your words and statements in no way reflect the attitude and teachings of Jesus Christ. In the Bible he teaches us to forgive. We don’t have to condone or justify the actions of a person but we should forgive. The woman at the well was caught in the act of adultery but Jesus said “You without sin cast the first stone”. Now I’m not saying you or anyone else on here has committed such a heinous act but we have all done things in the past that we are not proud of. It was a terrible, terrible thing he did but he has gone through what our justice system has considered his punishment and paid for his crime. Maybe, in this young man’s case, the justice system actually worked.

Being a Bama fan, I normally jump at the chance to slam the Vols and Lane Kiffen about anything. And, like Tony, if I really thought the kid had reformed, I would have probably helped him find a mid-major team, and kept the spotlight off my team. But, I do commend Kiffen for not automatically throwing the kid away because of a bad decision he made when he was 13. It appears he thoroughly researched the situation and is willing to give the kid a chance. I hope it works out for him.

Otto

May 8th, 2009
10:16 am

So many reason not to like Urban above all the man has no class.

http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2009/05/despite_his_two_rings_urban_me.html

GeoffDawg

May 8th, 2009
10:19 am

The Hood case is certainly a touchy subject. As another poster alluded to earlier, you can bet that future recruits and their parents are going to know the type of players on the UT squad regardless if that perception is accurate or not. 13 year old kids are by far old enough to know that committing such a horrific crime is pure evil but are probably young enough to eventually deserve a second chance. However, that doesn’t mean it has to come from Kiffin. He may be sacrificing future talent to satisfy his short term demand.

Jesus Christ

May 8th, 2009
10:22 am

MonVol, your attempt to justify this scholarship is disgusting. People aren’t a finished product at 18 either, or 25, or 40, or 60. But one thing is constant. When you’re the type of person who would tie up a family member and watch while your friend rapes her your time on earth should come to an end.

And I go by Jesus Christ because there are too many people on this and every other blog who profess to know what “God” wants. I’m silently mocking them and every other moron who thinks that their religion is the right religion.

Dorsey Hill

May 8th, 2009
10:25 am

Coach Bryant’s suggestion is a reminder of how much has changed since I began watching college football. Back in the day coaches, in the South in particular, Bobby Dodd, Vince Dooley, Bear Bryant and many many others, comported themselves, at least publicly, as gentleman who were to be respected and not only for their ability as coaches. I remember when:

Their team lost and it was always the coaches fault for not getting the team prepared.

Their team won, and all credit went to the players.

When playing any opponent, even an objectively inferior one, these coaches stressed how much they respected the other team and how difficult it was going to be to beat them.

When they beat that team 50-0, they expressed how fortunate they were to get the win against a very tough opponent.

I understand that this approach could be boring and it could be awfully repetitive. However, you can’t convince me that it wasn’t the right way to act.

Since Spurrier’s arrival as a coach in 1990 things have devolved considerably. For a region that is so obsessed with college football it is sad to think that these current coaches serve as examples to millions of what is appropriate behavior. Likewise, I am so glad that we have the Coach that we have and I hope we have him for a long, long time.

Chris

May 8th, 2009
10:26 am

Tony,
Thank you for the great memory. Watching the bear hawking Golden Flake potato chips and mumble at the videotape like your grandfather who’s not really paying attention,,,’mmmm, don’t block anybody here’

Am I mistaken or did he wear that hat when filming the show?

Saint Nick

May 8th, 2009
10:27 am

For everyone defending Kiffin!!! You WOULD NOT let this kid date you daughter, BUT he can play football for your team….RIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHTTTT!!!!!!!!!

Gator Growl

May 8th, 2009
10:30 am

BurningRedBleedingBlack…Let me try to answer one of those questions for you … Tennessee CAN beat Florida this year IF…somehow ALL of Floridas starters AND backups get injured on the very first play of the game. In another words, a Gatorade truck would have to accidentally plow thru the stadium and drive straight down the Florida sideline. But WAIT!!!..IT’S A BIRD! IT’S A PLANE! NO, IT’S TIM TEBOW! AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT WAYWARD TRUCK??!! IT’S GATORADE FOR EVERYBODY!!!…So to answer your question…no.

Pitbull

May 8th, 2009
10:32 am

With regard to the kid the Kitten signed at Tennessee:

It is commendable when a coach gives a recruit with a troubled past a chance to put the past behind them and turn their life around. I think many of them take advantage of the opportunity and go on to live productive lives.

However there are the handfull in many programs (and Lord knows that we have had some in ours) that do not take advantage of it as an opportunity to change thier lives and regress into their self destructive behavior. They make the school look bad for giving them the opportunity and they make themselves look bad too.

It is a shame that their behavior drives college programs to be gun shy about taking kids in the future that might use the opportunity to change their lives. I do not know if it is too late for a kid to change by the time he is 18 or not. I used to think anyone could change if they put their mind to it, but I have seen kids that really put the screws to their schools and coaches with their behavior.

Maybe they are not worth the risk anymore. Anyone care to offer their opinions?

whitx2

May 8th, 2009
10:34 am

m

What was the score of GT’s bowl game last year? Did GT play one of those SEC patsies? As much as you bring up the bama,utah game, we should start calling you the Babbling Wreck from UTE-TECH.

CT_Jacket

May 8th, 2009
10:35 am

You don’t get to be AG of a state being stupid. He will only take this to court and spend “millions of taxpayer dollars” if he thinks that he can win. Right now, he is trying to get some concessions from the BCS for more money and/or greater access to the BCS bowls. It only helps him politically if he accomplishes something.

In regards to the Utah schedule, there isn’t much that they can do about the conference that they are in. So they try to schedule good BCS schools as much as the BCS schools are willing to play them. (I’m sure that Michigan wasn’t a three win school when the game was contracted.) You also left out that they played good TCU and Oregon State teams.

GeoffDawg

May 8th, 2009
10:42 am

CT_Jacket – you’re right that most state AGs aren’t stupid. You’re wrong though that he only benefits politically if he wins a court case against the BCS or gains significant concessions. If he’s planning on running for Senator or Governor in the next few years, he’s going to want the citizens of Utah thinking of him as somebody who will go to bat for their interests regardless if it’s a losing battle or not. In politics, perception is reality.

Tidefan

May 8th, 2009
10:43 am

Pitbull, Good post and I agree. I have too seen it go both ways with kids with troubled pasts. And I have also seen kids that didn’t have troubled pasts before blow an opportunity that was provided them. But do we just throw them all away or do we try to help them? I realize it is a fine line and taking a chance on a kid could come back and bite you. But I would rather know that I gave a kid a chance to turn his life around than know that I gave him no chance at all.