Who’s your pick: A.J. Green or Julio Jones?

 

Nobody asked me, but:

A.J. Green or Julio Jones?

Like most good debate questions, this one came up on the golf course.

If you’re drafting your own fantasy football team and it comes to wide receiver, who do you take: Georgia’s A.J. Green or Alabama’s Julio Jones?

Jones, a rising sophomore, is having hernia surgery and is expected to be ready by August. Last season he caught 58 passes for 924 yards and four touchdowns. He averaged 15.9 yards per catch.

Green, also a rising sophomore, caught 56 passes for 963 yards and eight touchdowns. He averaged 17.2 yards per catch.

So who do you take? Green got an edge because he played with the No. 1 NFL Draft choice (QB Matthew Stafford). But Jones showed an uncanny ability (for a freshman) to run precise routes get open as a true freshman and his quarterback, John Parker Wilson, had a very efficient senior season.

Both players will be working with new quarterbacks in 2009 as Joe Cox, a fifth-year senior, takes over at Georgia and Greg McElroy, a fourth-year junior, becomes the man at Alabama. It will be one of most interesting position battles of the 2009 season.

Who would be your pick?

 

The Big 12 should adopt SEC tiebreaker: The Big 12 head football coaches are scheduled to meet today in Phoenix. Among the items on the agenda is whether or not to change the league’s tiebreaker rule, which created a huge controversy last season.

To review: Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas Tech finished in a three-way tie at 7-1 in the Big 12 South last season. On the field, Texas beat Oklahoma (45-35 in Dallas), Oklahoma beat Texas Tech (65-21 at home), and Texas Tech beat Texas (39-33 in Lubbock on a last-second play).

After all the other tiebreakers were exhausted, the final tiebreaker was the BCS Standings. Oklahoma was No. 2 and Texas was No. 3 by. 0128. Texas Tech was No. 7. So Oklahoma got the spot in the Big 12 championship game, which it won to advance to the BCS title game against Florida.

Texas, as you might imagine, was not pleased. It wants to adopt the SEC tiebreaker which says: If there is a three-way tie and the top two teams are within five spots of each other in the BCS Standings, then the head-to-head competition between those two teams comes into play and is used as the final tiebreaker.

When possible, head-to-head competition on the field should be used as the ultimate tiebreaker. Oklahoma earned the right to play Florida fair and square because that was the rule last season and everybody had signed off on it. But now the Big 12 needs to adopt SEC model.

 

Home wins are expensive. Get used to it: Published reports reveal that Georgia will pay New Mexico State $925,000 to come to Athens in November of 2011. That may seem like a lot of money but trust me when I tell you that in the future such games will cost the big schools $1 million or more.

It’s supply and demand. The big schools, in order to make sure they have at least seven home games, need to play Division I-A opponents who do not require a return game at their place. In order for Georgia to play teams like Oklahoma State and Arizona State on a home-and-home basis, it needs a couple of games it does not have to return. Schools like New Mexico State of the WAC know this and are able to pit one school against another to get the price up.

The only alternative for the big schools is to play a Division I-AA opponent whose guaranteed payment will be around $450,000. That is what Georgia Southern is getting to play at Alabama in 2011.  You can save about $500,000 by scheduling a I-AA which is why you’re going to see more of them on SEC and ACC schedules in the future.

Is that fair to the fans? Nope.

 

Coaches ballots should be made public—period:  The American Football Coaches Association, in conjunction with USA Today, puts together the coaches poll that goes into weekly BCS formula. The votes by the coaches are secret until the week of the final BCS Standings.

 The votes in Harris Interactive Poll, the other human poll used in the formula, are available to the public on a weekly basis.

This is an inconsistency that, given the high stakes involved, should not be continued. The AFCA has asked for an outside review of their poll, which has been in place since 1950. Those results will be presented to the AFCA Board of Trustees this week.

Would it make the coaches uncomfortable to have their weekly ballots released? Sure would.

Would it be a headache to have their ballots dissected on a weekly basis by smart-aleck guys in the media like me? No doubt.

You still have to do it.  The BCS process only works if there is full disclosure. If the coaches aren’t comfortable with full disclosure, then perhaps they should continue with their poll but get out of the BCS business.

 

Okay, the NCAA is serious about the APR: When the NCAA instituted its Academic Progress Rate (APR) to track how student-athletes were progressing academically, there was talk that schools who didn’t meet a specific score would lose scholarships. I said I would believe the NCAA was serious about the APR when an SEC school lost football scholarships.

That could happen today. Reports out of Mississippi claim that Ole Miss football could lose as many as three scholarships when the NCAA releases its new APR report. The problems, according to the report in the Jackson Clarion-Ledger, stem from the last season under former coach Ed Orgeron. Last season, the first under new coach Houston Nutt, the football program scored 939, 14 points above the minimum required score of 925.

Ole Miss will have until the 2010-11 season to cut the three football scholarships.

 

248 comments Add your comment

DawgGirl32

May 6th, 2009
9:20 am

Julio of AJ? I think it depends on what you’re looking for. I definitely think AJ has the better hands but Julio seems to be tougher after the pass. I would give the edge to AJ, though. Twice as many touchdowns = more wins.

EJ Bama

May 6th, 2009
9:20 am

Lots of good stuff packed into this column

DAWGS20

May 6th, 2009
9:21 am

Well based on numbers I think that A.J. was the man. He scored eight TD’s. Those are extremely valuable to a team. I think A.J. may be a step faster that JJ too. Not sure about that one thought. Bottom line is I dont think you could go wrong. Marlon Brown is the one I am waiting to see this fall. Imagine UGA will have two guys over 6′4 down field. Now if we can throw it to them…

sswinfordawg

May 6th, 2009
9:23 am

Julio or A.J.? I dunno. They are two very talented receivers and each have their own style of play. For the time being I’ll take A.J. But I’m biased.

Miles

May 6th, 2009
9:26 am

Coaches ballots should be made public. The notion of full disclosure, i.e., transparency, coincides with ethical behavior.

Otto

May 6th, 2009
9:27 am

SEC should adopt the Big 12 tie break. Tx Tech, Tx, and OU were in a 3 way tie. OU had the only decisive win between the 3 teams. If OU had won by a closer margin then they would have gone to the title game. Why should a team be punished for winning so soundly that they drop the other team in the rankings. SEC rules:The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the last weekend of regular-season games shall be the divisional representative in the SEC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game.

UGAly

May 6th, 2009
9:27 am

You gotta think that part of AJ’s success comes from having the #1 pro draft pick throwing to him. I’m a UGA fan, but it’s too early to tell. Can’t go wrong with either.

GT08

May 6th, 2009
9:27 am

Definitely Julio, he has great route running ability and makes better plays after the catch. If he had had Stafford throwing to him last year his numbers would have been better. AJ Green is good but he doesn;t have that IT factor like Julio Jones does…

Otto

May 6th, 2009
9:28 am

AJ with a better Soph year with help from a more accurate QB.

sswinfordawg

May 6th, 2009
9:30 am

Hey Tony, when are yall going to give us the run down on the sumer schedule? When do the freshmen arrive? When do they start doing walk throughs? When is summer camp? I think I speak for most of the other dog fans when I say that we would like to know Marlon and Branden Smith show their faces in Athens. I’m excited to see them as well as the rest of the 2009 class in action.

Charlotte Dawg 06'

May 6th, 2009
9:32 am

Um, lets not give Stafford all the credit here. While he was taken #1 and has a cannon for an arm A.J. definitely snagged a lot of those balls that otherwise would have been dropped by lesser receivers.

Bill

May 6th, 2009
9:34 am

I think the Julio and AJ debate will go on for a year or two but it will be interesting to see how they will do with 2 new QBs (that are closer in skill than last yr’s QB). Personally given what I’ve seen so far I would go with Julio since he was pulling in passes that most would not be able to catch and he is much more physical after the catch.

gtbuzz

May 6th, 2009
9:34 am

Who cares about two WR’s from the SEC? Tech will dominate UGA this year.. and the elephants..err i mean crimson tide will end up on probation

Charlotte Dawg 06'

May 6th, 2009
9:35 am

I mean some of you make it sound like Stafford was hitting A.J. in the facemask/chest on every throw, and that clearly was not always the case. Anyone remember the game-winner against Kentucky (I think)? A.J. could’ve dunked a basketball with the ups he had to get on that to bring it down.

SimpleDawg

May 6th, 2009
9:36 am

Durability will be the determining factor in which of these outstanding receivers becomes the better player….not to mention which one can keep his nose clean and not do something stupid to derail a great college career and a promising pro career. AJ seems to be faster, but Julio seems to be stronger….I’d take either one, but I guess I’d take AJ, if I had to choose.

Big receivers will be the wave of the future….everyone will want to have one. The next wave will be the big cornerback and safety. Size matters. Look for Orson Charles to be used more outside than inside.

Go Dawgs!

Otto

May 6th, 2009
9:38 am

Charlotte I agree which is why posted that AJ will be better with a QB that can put the ball more often on the mark. Stafford had a quick release and rifle arm but Cox was often more accurate and has much better touch. Stafford had a hard time learning you don’t always have to rifle the ball.

DawgGirl32

May 6th, 2009
9:39 am

Charlotte Dawg, I agree. Anyone who watched Stafford play all 3 years can agree that sometimes he made throws that just left you scratching your head. Well, AJ caught some of those. It will be interesting to see how this pans out with the two new QBs this year.

xenoabe

May 6th, 2009
9:43 am

AJ or Julio is a tough one to pick. First of all, I’m a Jacket so it’s hard for me to speak good about a dawg, but I gotta be honest here. AJ probably has better speed and hops ability. Julio is a better route runner and has more strength. Both speed and route running will help you to get open so it’s pretty much a wash there. I think Julio is more physical and that will begin to wear a CB down and allow him to get better jumps off the line. So, if I had to pick I’d probably go with Julio but it’s REALLY darn close.

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RedGADawg

May 6th, 2009
9:48 am

Good newsy info! Suggestion for scheduling – pair SEC with Conf USA and rotate thru the teams for twelve years. Every SEC team would play every Conf USA team for a pre determined fee at the SEC home. First year Alabama vs East Carolina, Auburn vs Houston continuingin alpha order, the next year move the Conf USA team up so Alabama plays Houston and Auburn plays Marshall. Similiar concept to basketball conference challenges. One could say why not with Big 12 or ACC, they would demand a home and home. Big 10, PAC 10 and Big East not enough teams in conference. This would be good for all, better than average D-1 teams, good footprint overlap and Conf USA will receive better exposure plus cash.

joe

May 6th, 2009
9:54 am

Tony,
Speaking of scheduling, why is the SEC set up so unfairly in cross division games. Instead of playing 1 permanent & 2 rotating teams in SEC East vs. SEC West, why don’t they do the practical thing like rotating all of them & having no permanent match ups. This way everyone would play everyone the same amount of times. Please don’t give me the ol’ “SEC has to keep up it’s old rivalries.” Who cares? They would still play fairly often plus those teams don’t dominate the conference anymore anyway. It is time to move on & make it a level playing field.

Got 12?

May 6th, 2009
9:55 am

Due to Stafford’s inaccurate cannon, AJ made a lot of spectacular deep catches over two or sometimes three defenders. His ability to adjust to the ball in the air was incredible.

Due to JP’s inaccurate BB gun, Julio caught short passes and fought through tacklers for his yards. A true freshman receiver manhandling SEC defensive backs was equally incredible.

As the difference in speed is negligible, I’ll go with Julio. With more comparable QB’s, this season will tell the tale (if neither gets injured).

WTF???

May 6th, 2009
9:55 am

I’ll take “Who gives a sh!t for $100….”

JB

May 6th, 2009
9:56 am

I’m thinking Calvin Johnson will say in a couple of years of Stafford, What the hell was I thinking going to Tech.

Red Elephant

May 6th, 2009
9:56 am

Both will only play college ball 2-3 years. If Stafford had been throwing to Jones, it’s Julio hands down. In fact, Alabama wins the NC with Stafford at the helm. Jones is bigger and stronger and more aggressive going to the ball.

Green is still an amazing talent, but I go with JJ.

Gen Neyland

May 6th, 2009
9:58 am

Julio seems to more solid, but AJ may have the better QB’s for his college career. AJ made big time catches but looked to lose focus on a few gimme’s(e.g. over the middle UT game)while Julio appears to know where he’s at on the field, especially sideline routes…Bringing in the kid from MEM will probably help AJ, or vice versa.

WTF???

May 6th, 2009
10:00 am

Why don’t you write about the progress of the recruits. Who’s eligible? Orson Charles & Little Herschel gonna make it? What about Branden Smith? I’ve heard rumors that these kids where sketchy with their scores. Oh yeah, UT Wild Boyz still recruiting future convict Moody?

WTF???

May 6th, 2009
10:02 am

JB – I bet money he thought that many years ago when Reggie kept sailing them over his head when he was wide azz open….

BurningRedBleedingBlack

May 6th, 2009
10:10 am

JJ is a very tough wide out, he is aggressive but….being a tough wide out has it’s downs, like having 3 operations when he’s only in his second year in college. Aj seems to be smarter and a little bit faster. Aj needs to put about 5 or 10 pounds muscle on. If it does’nt effect his speed . We will see who is the best this year. Both teams should be in the same boat as far as talent.

GeoffDawg

May 6th, 2009
10:16 am

You obviously can’t go wrong with either choice but moving forward, I’d have to give a slight edge to AJ. You can learn to run better routes but you can’t teach the leaping and overall athletic ability that AJ demonstrates at a marginally better rate than JJ.

GeoffDawg

May 6th, 2009
10:19 am

Joe, it’s about money and fan expectations. Out of the two, will Georgia – Auburn or Georgia – Arkansas generate better interest and subsequently better revenue?

PTC DAWG

May 6th, 2009
10:21 am

Both are GREAT WR’s…both should go far…BUT since Green is a DAWG, I have to give him the edge.. I expect Bama fans feel the same about Jones.

And still, the idiots keep on knocking Stafford on these blogs. What a JOKE they are.

Tony Barnhart

May 6th, 2009
10:23 am

Joe,

You don’t want the rivalry answer but it is the driving factor behind the SEC schedule plan.

When the SEC went to divisional play in 1992, teams used to have two permanent opponents on the other side. When it was cut to one some really good annual games–like Florida vs. Auburn–were lost.

The Big 12 went to a balanced schedule across divisions but in the process lost the annual game between Nebraska and Oklahoma. That, in retrospect, was a mistake.

There is no way that the SEC will give up annual rivalries like Tennessee-Alabama and Georgia-Auburn. They are too big a part of the league’s history.

TB

PTC DAWG

May 6th, 2009
10:24 am

Oh yeah, I like the idea about Conf USA an the SEC…

WTF???

May 6th, 2009
10:25 am

PTC Dawg – The joke is that Stafford was the #1 pick in the NFL draft. Signed a contract for 70 million & we didn’t even get into the SEC Championship with him under center…. I guess the joke is on us huh?

Got 12?

May 6th, 2009
10:30 am

You’re exactly right, GeoffDawg.

Joe, if it’s within our control, we will never stop playing the UT Wild Boyz (during the regular season). At times during Fulmer’s tenure, it was a more heated rivalry than our in-state one. Fulmer’s department took a little steam out of the it but Kiffen will take the dislike to a whole new level.

JB

May 6th, 2009
10:33 am

Stafford did his part to get us in the “GAME”. You score 42 points against Tech and LOSE, something is wrong. DEFENSE LET US DOWN ALL YEAR FOR LOT”S OF REASONS. LSU SHOWED WHAT MOST GOOD TEAMS WILL DO TO TECH. TECH SPENT A LOT OF MONEY PULLING HORSEHOES OUT OF THEIR ARS”S AFTER THE UGA GAME.

JC NJ

May 6th, 2009
10:33 am

IM A DAWG FAN JONES IS A COMPLETE PLAYER.

WTF???

May 6th, 2009
10:36 am

Got 12? Was that when Aubarn was flogging Bama bout every November?

Saint Nick

May 6th, 2009
10:41 am

Jones hands down, he was and is the most physical receiver in the COUNTRY!!!!! We will see who has the better stats this year….Cox or Mcleroy should be the question!!!!

WTF???

May 6th, 2009
10:42 am

Ya’ll see where Lame Kitten is giving rapist scholarships in Knoxville? He’d better keep a close eye on Layla…..

WTF???

May 6th, 2009
10:44 am

Are you saying we will see who has the best stats or personally guaranteeing Jones has the better year?

PJ Ward

May 6th, 2009
10:46 am

Julio Jones or A.J. (Almost Julio) Green.

Otto

May 6th, 2009
10:47 am

Tony is correct and many in Big 12 would love to see the OU vs Nebraska game come back for the memories and the money. The SEC pairs each team with 1 permanent game from the other division. The teams are historically close in level of competition. Tony is correct keep the system as it is. UGA vs Auburn and Bama vs TN are some of the oldest and classic out of state rivals in CFB up there with Michigan vs Ohio St. LSU vs UF is penciled in year after year as must see TV. Often just is not good enough as OU vs Nebraska proves. I wish UF vs Auburn would come back. The 80s had some classic battles between UGA, UF, and Auburn all close together.

Leland

May 6th, 2009
10:47 am

Dear Mr. CB–me, I’d take AJ. Or maybe Juliet. I’m not sure at this point in time. Why? Which would you take? Your pal, Leland

WTF???

May 6th, 2009
10:51 am

When Julio & AJ have kids, maybe one will have a boy & the other will have a girl. They reproduce a hybrid of the two. A not skinny AJ would be awesome….

Tide rising

May 6th, 2009
10:56 am

JJ vs AJ. The question to ask is how would AJ have done with an undrafted JP Wilson as his qb and how would JJ have done with the nfl’s no. 1 draft pick throwing to him? That ends the debate right there.

I think AJ has just a tad more speed but the difference is negligible.

As far as hands go the nod goes to Julio. I say that because I’ve seen AJ drop easy passes like the one he bobbled to the bama linebacker on blackout night and he seemed a little intimidated also going over the middle against Tenn. I can’t remember Julio dropping but one or 2 passes all season and Julio does not get intimidated over the middle by dbs. He does the intimidating.

Big time players show up in the big games. Head to head Julio dominated AJ. Also, Julio showed up in Bama’s big games against UGA, Fla(64 yard catch and run), and LSU(caught the ball at the 9 and dragged LSU’s Patrick Peterson to the 1). AJ was nonexistent in the Florida game and got his yardage in the Bama game in garbage time.

Lastly, both can go deep but the big difference is that when Julio catches a short or intermediate pass one guy cannot bring him down and if he does he gets dragged 5 yards before Julio goes down. I can’t even tell you how many times Julio caught a short pass and dragged one or 2 extra defenders for 5,7, 8 extra yards. The same simply cannot be said for AJ.

Lastly, everyone seems to forget that you still are expected to block as a wr. You’re not catching passes on every offensive play. Julio wins hands down on blocking.

In any event both are great receivers and I certainly wouldn’t turn down AJ. I also give AJ much better style points in that he does seem to come up with some nice, acrobatic looking catches. I just think that if you asked a pro scout today who they would rather have tomorrow the consensus would be to take the bigger, stronger, tackle breaking Julio for the pro game.

joe

May 6th, 2009
10:59 am

Look, I see all of your points about the rivalries, but it is still not right or fair to all 12 schools. Shouldn’t that be the goal, a balanced conference schedule & not to show favoritism for two games that the 8 other teams in the conference could care less about anyway. If you look at the 2009 conference schedules you tell me if it is balanced amongst schools.

Two Questions for Tony

May 6th, 2009
11:01 am

1. How big will the Bama-VT game be for the media perception of strength of SEC vs. strength of ACC. What would the impact be if VT actuall won?

2. It seems like the City of Memphis could make themselves “goto” site for college footbal. What will it take for City of Memphis to make their city and a bowl game a “must see?” A bowl game matchup of SEC vs. Big 12? What about a rotating game like Tenn vs. Arkansas, or a Tenn vs. Ole Miss, or a Tenn vs Bama, or LSU vs. Ole Miss game on a netral field, like Memphis? Is it feasible? Would that be good for SEC or Big 12?

JC NJ

May 6th, 2009
11:04 am

JONES IS ASKED TO STAY IN FROM TIME 2 TIME 2 PICK UP DE”S/LB”S AJ CANT DO THAT.