NFL still loves the ACC, SEC

 

 

Spring practice is officially over. The NFL Draft is officially over. So what did we learn over the weekend?

 

The NFL still loves the ACC, SEC:  As we told you last Friday, over the past five drafts before Saturday the SEC (191) and the ACC (176) have had more draft picks than any of the nine other Division I-A conferences. In Saturday’s first round the SEC had three of the first six picks, four of the top 12 and five of the top 18.

 ACC had four of the first nine and nine of the first 45, which was more than any other conference.

The SEC had eight first-round selections and the ACC had five. So 13 of the first 32 players chosen in the first round of the draft, over 40 percent, came from those two conferences. The final totals in the draft were, by conference:

CONFERENCE—–SEC—-ACC—-PAC-10—-BT—B12—-BE

Total picks———-37——-33——-32——-28—-28——27

 

Here is the SEC and ACC breakdown by school.

ACC DRAFT PICKS BY SCHOOL

Atlantic: Boston College 2; Florida State 1; Clemson 4; Maryland 5; N.C. State 2; Wake Forest 4.

Coastal: Duke 0, Georgia Tech 4, Miami 1, North Carolina 5;  Virginia 4, Virginia Tech 1.

Notice that Florida State and Miami had only one player drafted each while six other schools, including Georgia Tech, had four of more players chosen. Miami’s streak of 14 straight drafts with a first-round choice was broken.

 

SEC DRAFT PICKS BY SCHOOL

East: Florida 3; Georgia 6; Kentucky 1; South Carolina 7; Tennessee 1; Vanderbilt 1.

West: Alabama 4; Arkansas 1; Auburn 3; LSU 6; Ole Miss 4; Miss. State 0.

Notice that South Carolina led all schools in the SEC with seven draft choices.

 

My two favorite draft stories were Michael Oher of Ole Miss and Aaron Curry of Wake Forest.

Oher’s story has been chronicled in a book, “The Blind Side,” which is being made into a movie, portions of which were shot at Georgia Tech. Oher was abandoned and homeless as a teenager in Memphis. He was taken in and eventually adopted by Sean and Leigh Anne Tuohy. Oher had every right to be angry at the world. But instead he used his energy to make the most of his opportunity. He was taken by the Ravens as the 23rd player in the first round.

Curry is a testament to what determination and good coaching can do for a player. Curry was not a highly recruited player out of E.E. Smith high school in Fayetteville, N.C. He was small, just over 190 pounds. Wake Forest and East Carolina were the only Division I-A scholarship offers he had. Former Georgia assistant Brad Lambert, now the defensive coordinator at Wake Forest, was convinced that Curry was going to be a great player.

“I remember Brad asking me to watch film of Aaron so that I didn’t think he was making stuff up,” head coach Jim Grobe said. “Brad said: ‘Do you see what I see?’ And I did. It was clear that if Aaron could put on some weight he would be something special.”

It took five years at Wake Forest but Curry eventually grew to 6-2, 254 pounds. On Saturday Curry was taken by the Seahawks as the fourth player in the first round.

 

Two more reasons why I don’t understand the NFL:  Vanderbilt’s D.J. Moore lasted until the fourth round  (119th pick) and Florida State’s Everette Brown was not taken until the second round (43rd pick).

Moore had 13 career interceptions and was one of the better all-purpose players in the SEC. He averaged 19.4 yards per kickoff return and 14.4 yards per punt return.  Various reports said he ran a relatively slow 40-yard dash time at the combine and at Vanderbilt’s Pro Day. That’s something I’ve never understood about the NFL. This guy excelled against the best competition in college football. He can PLAY. How do you ignore that and base a decision on some numbers on a stopwatch?

Florida State’s  Brown led the ACC in tackles for loss (21.5) and sacks (13.5) last season. Some thought he was a “tweener” at 6-2, 256. Again, reports were that his 40 time was a little slow.

Both guys were juniors and it looks like both could have used a senior year to increase their draft stock.

 

Andre Smith is one talented but very lucky guy: I was glad to see that after a series of bad decisions that could have cost him dearly, Alabama OT Andre Smith was the No. 6 player picked in the draft by the Bengals.

Not long ago it looked like Smith, the Outland Trophy winner, had blown his chance at becoming a wealthy man. He was suspended for the Sugar Bowl after it was determined that he or someone connected to him had had contact with an agent’s representative. He shows up at the NFL combine out of shape and then doesn’t work out. He then leaves the combine without telling anybody and gets a ton of well-deserved bad press.

Smith got his bacon saved because he fired his first agent and hired a pro in Rick Smith. Andre is also lucky because Alabama coach Nick Saban went to bat for him with the NFL teams who wanted the real skinny on this kid.

This should be a cautionary tale, especially to juniors who enter the NFL Draft. Two lessons: 1) Hire a proven agent and do what he says; 2) If you want to be a professional then ACT like a professional. If you’re not sure how to act, then refer back to Rule 1.

 

The B.J. Coleman decision is best for both sides: The people I talk to tell me that Tennessee’s coaches were caught completely off guard when sophomore quarterback B.J. Coleman announced last week that he was going to transfer to another school. Coleman told his hometown newspaper in Chattanooga that he didn’t think he would get a “fair shake” from the new coaching staff. Coleman felt he had made it clear in spring practice that he should have the job ahead of senior Jonathan Crompton. I think Coleman could have chosen his words more carefully because it makes no sense to suggest that Lane Kiffin would play a lesser quarterback in this league.  Conspiracy theorists say Kiffin wants to play a senior to open the door to sign the quarterback of the future next February. That doesn’t make any sense either. Coaches take the talent they have on hand and build the best possible team for that season.

The reality is that Coleman’s decision is probably the best for both parties. If he had been head and shoulders better than Crompton in the spring, then he would have the edge going into fall camp. The truth is that none of the three Tennessee quarterbacks—Crompton, Coleman, and Nick Stephens–were really setting the world on fire.

 

202 comments Add your comment

AltamahaDawg

April 27th, 2009
7:30 am

SC with 7? Spurrier has to be somewhere near the top in term of active coaches that have sent guys to the NFL.

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
7:46 am

Does that say that Stephanus Maximus is past his prime? Maybe Spurrier needs to hang up his saddle!!! What is surprising to me is FSU and Miami having a total of 2 players drafted!!!! And by the way, the Bengals had a early Christmas gift with Maulauga falling to them in the second round, and THE CRYPT KEEPER aka AL Davis is still an idiot!!!!!!!

Mac

April 27th, 2009
8:15 am

Coleman was head-and-shoulders better than Crompton this spring.

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GeoffDawg

April 27th, 2009
8:34 am

I think the bigger question for SC fans would be why hasn’t Spurrier done more with what’s apparently a lot of stockpiled NFL talent at his disposal? Has the ole’ ball coach gotten a tad lazy with his innovations? He’s practically not even good for a memorable quote anymore these days.

Matt

April 27th, 2009
8:40 am

Man, Tony, you’re a figgin genius. Seeing as how the SEC has 12 teams, and the Pac 10 has 10 teams, that 5 player advantage isn’t such a big deal. Of course these two conferences have more players drafted … they’re all in the south, and both conferences hasve 12 teams. The other conferences are in the north and have fewer teams.

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 27th, 2009
8:41 am

These numbers don’t add up to your 20% coverage of the ACC and 80% coverage of the SEC Tony. Hmmmmm

Dink

April 27th, 2009
8:42 am

Crompton looks great in practice but come game time, it’s the “deer in the headlights” look. Or maybe he just doesn’t want to take his shirt off.

BhamWreck

April 27th, 2009
8:45 am

I totally agree with the Coleman comments Tony – in that winning should be the goal, not having a UT wild boyz top recruiting class. Its almost like the tail wagging the dog. If there is any truth to the situation than Lane Kiffin is a moron. Why would Coleman make this up?

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43rd Parallel

April 27th, 2009
8:49 am

If you calculate it on a per-team basis, the Big East had the highest average of players drafted (27 draftees, 8 teams, 3.375 picks per team). So much for preconceptions.

MonVol

April 27th, 2009
8:55 am

Coleman just wanted the job in April, and Kiffin wasn’t ready to name anyone the starter yet. Had he been patient and worked hard this summer, Coleman would’ve probably won the job.

Brian in Athens

April 27th, 2009
8:55 am

Tony, a couple of years ago I saw a report that said UGA was 3rd in players in the NFL behind only FSU and Miami. Anyone know how that list look now with UGA placing 6 more this year (plus any free agents that may find a home, possibly Brannan Southerland) and FSU and Miami only having 1 player each drafted?

Nachos

April 27th, 2009
9:03 am

Gene Chizik????? hahaahahahhaahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahhahaha

BigMike

April 27th, 2009
9:04 am

First, it is a testament to Nick Saban that he looks out for his players with tough love. The forty time thing is soooo over rated, are you telling me that a kid who runs a 4.3 out of San Jose St is better than a 4.55 guy in the SEC? In the long run you will see why this kid played in the SEC, and the other at SJSU.Acc guys congrats on being a silver medal winner, but we all know that the SEC is Big Boy Ball, so finishing #1 isn’t a suprise, it’s expected. All you other out siders who complain that your conference have fewer teams, or less coverage, LISTEN, there is a reason that you have less of both, it’s simple, people want to go where the best is, the SEC , is simply the best conference in college football. P.S. You can switch, we won’t tell!

BhamWreck

April 27th, 2009
9:09 am

Mike Is that why the ACC went 6-4 against the SEC in the 08 season? or why the current ACC has the most players in the NFL? (Tony never did the existing numbers by current conference alignment) The SEC will not be dominant in the next 10 years

Cuz

April 27th, 2009
9:17 am

Insert 45-42 here.

KR

April 27th, 2009
9:21 am

“Nachos”: it’s time for you to find some new material.

Maybe you should try some objective analysis of something.

Kiffinisatosser

April 27th, 2009
9:21 am

Crompton might do better this year without the Clawson system, but odds are that he will materialize into a bust given his ineptitude last year. This leaves Kiffin in a real pickle. He will then need to choose between a true freshman and Stephens in 2010.

This sets him up for a second crummy season in a row (and a 3d consecutive season of bad football for UT). The natives will be restless and the pressure will be on Kiffin sort of like it is on Weiss this year. Year 3 for him will be crunch time. I predict he will fold like a napkin because of team dissension, off field incidents, an Orgeron-gate of some kind and poor talent development.

Call me an optimist!

what?

April 27th, 2009
9:22 am

Coleman had a better spring than Crompton in terms of stats but remember Coleman was throwing against the 2nd team defense so in the end it evens him out with Crompton because even though he hasn’t been good, Crompton has starting experience and Coleman doesn’t and Crompton played against Tennessee’s 1st team d so he has a leg up there. It doesn’t matter because either quarterback isn’t going to be that great.

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
9:22 am

GT Fans,

Get over the 3 point UGA win!!!!! YOU GOT TRUCKED BY THE SEC’s 5TH BEST TEAM IN YOUR BOWL!!!!!!!! I would be more worried about getting punked in your hometown bowl than a 3 point win over “THE NO SHOWS”!!!! Got to find a positive somewhere I guess!!!!!

Eric

April 27th, 2009
9:24 am

The Bengals have a history of drafting problem children. Now they’ve done it again.

jacketbacker

April 27th, 2009
9:25 am

good column tony…..it just proves once again that the ACC is a quality football conference….the SEC blowhards that continually blog about their conference being the only one that prepares kids for the ” next level” have no idea what they are talking about….i’m sure the Tech coaches will use this info to our advantage….

jacketbacker

April 27th, 2009
9:27 am

saint nick….45-42!!!!!!!….who can’t get over it????

PTC Jacket

April 27th, 2009
9:30 am

Saint Nick:

No, we’re allowed to brag all we want to for a year.

whitx2

April 27th, 2009
9:34 am

The way Lane kiffin has started out, how can anyone tell if he knows what he is doing. I guess we’ll see.

Tony, i didn’t see any of the draft after the 240th pick. Did John Parker Wilson get drafted? If so, what team and when did he go? Thanks

BhamWreck

April 27th, 2009
9:39 am

Saint Nick – according to all the Bama fans I know the bowl games really don’t “mean anything” (especially since Bama was taken behind the woodshed and beaten like an adopted Korean by a mountain west team) In fact it was YOUR FAULT Bama lost (according to Saban) and congrats to the Ohio State buckeyes who set a spring game attendance record as well as getting the #1 recruiting class this year.

dawg4lyf

April 27th, 2009
9:41 am

Bragging rights for the Jackets…only hear that once a decade so I guess it isn’t that big of a deal…

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
9:47 am

We got beat by the #1 and #2 teams in the country and were 4 minutes away from playing in the BCSNCG!!! THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE THAN GETTING TRUCKED BY 35 BY A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SEC TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Monticello Dawg

April 27th, 2009
9:47 am

What would the odds have been 10 years ago if someone had suggested that Wake Forest would have twice as many NFL draftees as FSU and Miami combined?

BhamWreck

April 27th, 2009
9:51 am

Bama was overrated. Your all time record setting qb didn’t even get drafted.

Tiderising

April 27th, 2009
10:00 am

Bhamwreck,

Don’t know why you posted the ACC 6-4 edge over the SEC in the regular season. Um, I think you forgot that we punked you in the 2 bowl games to make it 6-6. Your conference runner up Boston College gotten taken down by Vandy which is traditionally the sec doormat and hadn’t been to a bowl game since 1982. Then Tech got blasted by 35 points to an LSU team that won only 3 sec games the whole year.

Also, a closer examination of the 12 games reveals that when that the acc got half of those 6 wins over the 2 traditionally worse teams in the sec in Vandy and Miss. St. Then they got a narrow 3 pt win over the dawgs. Then there was the narrow Wake win over Ole Miss in the last minute that came with 2 highly questionable officiating calls against Ole Miss on the final drive. I imagine the 6th win for the ACC was also a squeaker.

Meanwhile, when the SEC won their games over the sec it was usually of blowout proportions Bama 34-10 over Clemson, UF 45-20 over FSU, LSU 38-3 over Tech, LSU 48-7 over conference champion Va tech(actually I think this humiliation was probably in 07), etc.

Let’s face it. You won several squeakers, half of them against our 2 traditional doormats, and then you got blown out in the rest of the games against the SEC. Now shut up and go back to your corner.

DirtyDawg

April 27th, 2009
10:01 am

The Coleman kid will be able to play for his hometown team, UTC, with a new coach and a new attitude and he won’t have to sit out a year…but most of all he’ll be shed of that 3-ring circus that young Mr. Kiffin has created up in Knoxville. Way too many UT fans I know are embarrassed by his actions, think he’s an arrogant jerk and are saying that ‘he may be a jerk, but if he wins he’s our jerk. Now if he loses, or if his daddy gets sick or something, then we’ll send the moving van around.’

By the way, with a wife like that he can’t be all bad.

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
10:05 am

BHAM,

If Bama was overrated, where do you put GT???? JPW not getting drafted has nothing to do with GT getting trucked or Bama according to you being “overrated”!!!! Don’t start with the 3rd grade “my dad can kick your dad’s a$$ because I know that Bama’s draft history DWARFS GT’s draft history!!!!!

JT

April 27th, 2009
10:05 am

So Tony, when does the media stop giving the “Ol’ Ball Coach” a pass on his mediocrity in Columbia? He keeps poor mouthing about a lack of talent and the media continues to run with that story. Frankly, you continue to be one of his bigger cheerleaders. I think we can safely lay to rest the 1990s past glories and stop saying “when Spurrier amasses the talent necessary in Columbia” or “Coach Spurrier has been playing with inferior talent” etc., Spurrier had a nice run in the ’90s, he changed the conference, but that seems like a lifetime ago now and it should be acknowledged as such.

Tiderising

April 27th, 2009
10:08 am

Bham wreck

Bama was overrated? Let’s see. We won 12 games compared to your 7 and lets examine our 2 losses. We lost to the eventual national champion gators in a game in which we were winning in the 4th qtr and then we lose our bowl game to the only undefeated team all season in Utah which I think was an underrated team. Or perhaps in all your football wisdom you didn’t notice that the Mountain west was 5-0 or 6-0 against the pac 10 this year and was also something like 5-1 against the pac 10 last year. Learn something about football before you speak.

BTW, I wouldn’t talk to much about bama qbs not making it in the nfl. Clearly, JP Wilson is not the same talent as someone like Stafford and he won’t make it in the nfl. But considering that we run a pro style offense as opposed to running an option offense I wonder what our odds of getting a pro style qb into the pros in the future are versus an option running team like Tech. You should shut up right there pardner.

Lastly, Bama has 3 super bowl winning qbs in Bart Starr (2) and Kenny Stabler and Joe Namath with 1 each. How many does Tech have?

Voice of Reason

April 27th, 2009
10:10 am

nobody ever expcted JPW to be drafted very high if at all. No surprise there, except maybe for a Tech fan who knows noting about football. and jacketbacker- I am pretty sure that Saint Nick (an obvious bama fan) had no problem getting over GT beating UGA. You all talk about how much UGA sucks and how bad they were this year yet you all hang your hats on the fact that y’all beat UGA by three. If they are so horrible, why is this a bragging right?? You don’t see UGA fans constantly bragging about our score over GASouthern or Central Michigan so if UGA is that bad (as you say) why all the bragging about 45-42. 10-7 10-7 10-7!!! hahahahahaha (Gardner-Webb)

m

April 27th, 2009
10:11 am

The Cincinnati Bengals got a steal in the 3rd round with their pick of Michael Johnson. He will be end up being a much more successful pro than Matthew “Jeff George reincarnated” Stafford. TGAG.

Not Disappointed

April 27th, 2009
10:14 am

Overall, how can you not be happy with all the picks from the South. The South really showed up! I am a loyal Jacket Fan; nevertheless, I am proud of the majority of picks over the weekend. How can you not be happy for these young men? Ramblin Wreck!!!!

Go Dores

April 27th, 2009
10:19 am

With the pick of DJ Moore, 6 Vanderbilt Commodores are on(or will soon be on) the payroll of the Chicago Bears. This is a strange and amazing development. I have been a purist college football fan, but I am now also an instant Bear fan. Can you imagine how excellent it would be to support an NFL team with so many of your school’s players on it? I will be almost as excited to cheer for the Bears in 2009 as I will my beloved Dores.

TheItalianDawg

April 27th, 2009
10:20 am

Hey Tony, I enjoyed reading your column, good job!
can you or anybody tell me how in the world that Dannell Ellerbe didn’t get drafted, It was shocking to me, ellerbe is very solid LB, is there any Thurman effect on this?

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
10:20 am

M,

Only an idiot like you would speculate between a DE and a QB’s future in the NFL!!!!

yellowblood

April 27th, 2009
10:20 am

You can argue all you want but one thing is certain, we have the best Tickle Piles in all of college athletics. To hell with UGAG!!!!

Kiffinisatosser

April 27th, 2009
10:22 am

Italian Dog…Ribs Marinara? Chittlins Arabiata? The mind boggles at the possibilities.

Tiderising

April 27th, 2009
10:25 am

Voice of reason,

It is indeed comical to see Tech fans always bragging about their once in every 8 years 3 point win over the dawgs. A 3 pt win that they refer to as the “azzkicking”. If I were a dawg fan I actually think I would be more amused about their constant harping about a 3 pt win then anything else. I can’t imagine ever seeing any team’s fans getting more mileage out of a single 3 pt win once every 8 years than the Tech fans do in this blog. Its actually kind of sad when you consider that most dawg fans(the ones I know anyway) look at Tech as merely an afterthought. They got bigger fish to fry with UF and the rest of the sec schedule.

Clearly, a lot of these Tech fans nothing about football. I don’t know one Bama fan who thinks JP Wilson is NFL material and frankly I just don’t understand why an idiot like Bham wreck would rag on the kid. I’m not piling on about Wilson its just that even rabid Bama fans know he just isn’t NFL material. So what? At least in future years we will have nfl qb prospects in the draft. As long as Tech runs an option offense they will never, ever get a qb drafted by the NFL. That’s how astounding the idiocy of someone like Bham wreck is.

RAM

April 27th, 2009
10:25 am

The best QB on the Tennessee campus may be playing third base for the baseball team. Tyler Horne could really sling it when he played at Newnan HS a few years ago and he had several scholarship offers in football. I think he signed with (or at least committed to) UAB, but he never played there.

Jon

April 27th, 2009
10:26 am

Tony
You never fail to amaze. I just don’t know what I would do without your column. You always give such unbiased and relative reporting. If I had known about you sooner I would have moved to the south a long time ago. Oh so what is your point anyway?

FloridaDawg

April 27th, 2009
10:27 am

Does this mean that the best talent does not equal Championships?

Kiffinisatosser

April 27th, 2009
10:27 am

If you Dawg and Tech fans could please just shut up about each other, there would be a lot more room on this board to attack other programs as well!

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 27th, 2009
10:29 am

BhamWreck, you can’t say Korean on here without some liberal PC fleabag idiot like “professor”, who will call you a racist. Just a forewarning.