NFL still loves the ACC, SEC

 

 

Spring practice is officially over. The NFL Draft is officially over. So what did we learn over the weekend?

 

The NFL still loves the ACC, SEC:  As we told you last Friday, over the past five drafts before Saturday the SEC (191) and the ACC (176) have had more draft picks than any of the nine other Division I-A conferences. In Saturday’s first round the SEC had three of the first six picks, four of the top 12 and five of the top 18.

 ACC had four of the first nine and nine of the first 45, which was more than any other conference.

The SEC had eight first-round selections and the ACC had five. So 13 of the first 32 players chosen in the first round of the draft, over 40 percent, came from those two conferences. The final totals in the draft were, by conference:

CONFERENCE—–SEC—-ACC—-PAC-10—-BT—B12—-BE

Total picks———-37——-33——-32——-28—-28——27

 

Here is the SEC and ACC breakdown by school.

ACC DRAFT PICKS BY SCHOOL

Atlantic: Boston College 2; Florida State 1; Clemson 4; Maryland 5; N.C. State 2; Wake Forest 4.

Coastal: Duke 0, Georgia Tech 4, Miami 1, North Carolina 5;  Virginia 4, Virginia Tech 1.

Notice that Florida State and Miami had only one player drafted each while six other schools, including Georgia Tech, had four of more players chosen. Miami’s streak of 14 straight drafts with a first-round choice was broken.

 

SEC DRAFT PICKS BY SCHOOL

East: Florida 3; Georgia 6; Kentucky 1; South Carolina 7; Tennessee 1; Vanderbilt 1.

West: Alabama 4; Arkansas 1; Auburn 3; LSU 6; Ole Miss 4; Miss. State 0.

Notice that South Carolina led all schools in the SEC with seven draft choices.

 

My two favorite draft stories were Michael Oher of Ole Miss and Aaron Curry of Wake Forest.

Oher’s story has been chronicled in a book, “The Blind Side,” which is being made into a movie, portions of which were shot at Georgia Tech. Oher was abandoned and homeless as a teenager in Memphis. He was taken in and eventually adopted by Sean and Leigh Anne Tuohy. Oher had every right to be angry at the world. But instead he used his energy to make the most of his opportunity. He was taken by the Ravens as the 23rd player in the first round.

Curry is a testament to what determination and good coaching can do for a player. Curry was not a highly recruited player out of E.E. Smith high school in Fayetteville, N.C. He was small, just over 190 pounds. Wake Forest and East Carolina were the only Division I-A scholarship offers he had. Former Georgia assistant Brad Lambert, now the defensive coordinator at Wake Forest, was convinced that Curry was going to be a great player.

“I remember Brad asking me to watch film of Aaron so that I didn’t think he was making stuff up,” head coach Jim Grobe said. “Brad said: ‘Do you see what I see?’ And I did. It was clear that if Aaron could put on some weight he would be something special.”

It took five years at Wake Forest but Curry eventually grew to 6-2, 254 pounds. On Saturday Curry was taken by the Seahawks as the fourth player in the first round.

 

Two more reasons why I don’t understand the NFL:  Vanderbilt’s D.J. Moore lasted until the fourth round  (119th pick) and Florida State’s Everette Brown was not taken until the second round (43rd pick).

Moore had 13 career interceptions and was one of the better all-purpose players in the SEC. He averaged 19.4 yards per kickoff return and 14.4 yards per punt return.  Various reports said he ran a relatively slow 40-yard dash time at the combine and at Vanderbilt’s Pro Day. That’s something I’ve never understood about the NFL. This guy excelled against the best competition in college football. He can PLAY. How do you ignore that and base a decision on some numbers on a stopwatch?

Florida State’s  Brown led the ACC in tackles for loss (21.5) and sacks (13.5) last season. Some thought he was a “tweener” at 6-2, 256. Again, reports were that his 40 time was a little slow.

Both guys were juniors and it looks like both could have used a senior year to increase their draft stock.

 

Andre Smith is one talented but very lucky guy: I was glad to see that after a series of bad decisions that could have cost him dearly, Alabama OT Andre Smith was the No. 6 player picked in the draft by the Bengals.

Not long ago it looked like Smith, the Outland Trophy winner, had blown his chance at becoming a wealthy man. He was suspended for the Sugar Bowl after it was determined that he or someone connected to him had had contact with an agent’s representative. He shows up at the NFL combine out of shape and then doesn’t work out. He then leaves the combine without telling anybody and gets a ton of well-deserved bad press.

Smith got his bacon saved because he fired his first agent and hired a pro in Rick Smith. Andre is also lucky because Alabama coach Nick Saban went to bat for him with the NFL teams who wanted the real skinny on this kid.

This should be a cautionary tale, especially to juniors who enter the NFL Draft. Two lessons: 1) Hire a proven agent and do what he says; 2) If you want to be a professional then ACT like a professional. If you’re not sure how to act, then refer back to Rule 1.

 

The B.J. Coleman decision is best for both sides: The people I talk to tell me that Tennessee’s coaches were caught completely off guard when sophomore quarterback B.J. Coleman announced last week that he was going to transfer to another school. Coleman told his hometown newspaper in Chattanooga that he didn’t think he would get a “fair shake” from the new coaching staff. Coleman felt he had made it clear in spring practice that he should have the job ahead of senior Jonathan Crompton. I think Coleman could have chosen his words more carefully because it makes no sense to suggest that Lane Kiffin would play a lesser quarterback in this league.  Conspiracy theorists say Kiffin wants to play a senior to open the door to sign the quarterback of the future next February. That doesn’t make any sense either. Coaches take the talent they have on hand and build the best possible team for that season.

The reality is that Coleman’s decision is probably the best for both parties. If he had been head and shoulders better than Crompton in the spring, then he would have the edge going into fall camp. The truth is that none of the three Tennessee quarterbacks—Crompton, Coleman, and Nick Stephens–were really setting the world on fire.

 

202 comments Add your comment

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
12:16 pm

I can’t wait for 2013!!!!!If only we survive 2012 (the human race), GT won’t survive 2013!!!!

Tide rising

April 27th, 2009
12:17 pm

GTforever,

You can’t wait to get us back to that intimidating high school stadium called Bobby Dodd? Is this the same stadium that holds more dawg fans than Tech fans when ya’ll play. What’s the capacity. 50k you say? We’re at 92 k and expanding to 101 k to open the 2010 season against Penn State. What was that about you wanting to play us in a high school stadium again?

BhamWreck

April 27th, 2009
12:20 pm

We tried to schedule Ole Miss for 2010,2011 (who some predict to win the SEC west this year) but THEY CHICKENED OUT AND BOUGHT OUT THE GAMES! and I agree Vandy and MSU are not strong teams but even playing Vandy and MSU on the road is A MILLION TIMES TOUGHER THAN NORTH TEXAS, ARKY STATE AND UT CHATT AT HOME! Ask Bama who lost 2006, 2007 to MSU haha! You can’t win this argument Bama is a chicken when it comes to OOC scheduling. Just deal with it.

SC

April 27th, 2009
12:25 pm

I guess yahoo doesn’t want to count late round 7’s. And with good reason. There were 47 picks in the 7th round. I bet if you go back and look, the number of picks in the late rounds has been increasing the past few years. It’s really a joke after round 5 anyway.

Leland

April 27th, 2009
12:28 pm

Dear Mr. CB–how many was it did you say? Your pal, Leland

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
12:30 pm

If you do the math, there are actually 8 rounds. 256 picks by 32 teams = 8 rounds.

BigMike

April 27th, 2009
12:38 pm

BhamWreck- You and the rest of the ACC loyalist must learn to bow down to your real kings. We are the SEC, and the draft proved (once again) what everybody knows, that superior talent reigns in the SEC. Stop hating and be submissive, all good wifes do!

SC

April 27th, 2009
12:38 pm

Someone should look at the players taken in round 7 and see if they are on a nfl roster in 2-3 years. My guess is 2 at the most.

Tide rising

April 27th, 2009
12:40 pm

We’re chicken. Uh- huh! Let’s see. We play your conference champion this year. We open with Penn State next year. Earlier in the 2000s we played OU when it was ranked no. 1 in 2002 to open the season, the year before that we played UCLA in 2001 which the year before had the nation’s longest winning streak at 21 games.

I’ll tell you what. Instead of playing the bottom 2 teams in another bcs conference why don’t you just be like us and play the champion of a bcs conference? Its a lot tougher to play a game against a bcs conference champion than it is to play the traditional bottom 2 teams in a bcs conference. It would be like us scheduling Baylor and Iowa State out of the big 12 every year and then bragging about playing 2 bcs conference opponents who are barely better than North Texas, ut chattanooga, etc.

gtforever

April 27th, 2009
12:43 pm

Yeah, you tide fans keep on thinking it will be a gimme game. Victory will be sweet, against another PRIMO super duper SEC team…..

BigMike

April 27th, 2009
12:44 pm

SC, I guess yahoo is like so many others, realizing that 7th round choices are what we country folk call the bottom of the barrel.At the top though was a UGA Dawg, and that’s the bottom line.Why? Because BigMike said so!

Tide4u2c

April 27th, 2009
12:45 pm

Saban has made it a goal to play atleast 1 marquee OOC opponent every year.Florida State in 07,Clemson in 08,Virginia Tech in 09 and Penn State in a home and home in 2010 and 11.Saban won’t leave Bama atleast until he wins 1 if not more NC’s.You people can keep dreaming though who make up these Saban is leaving rumors every year.Auburn fans love to do it so we are immune and used to it.Keep dreaming is all I can say meanwhile be ready when you play the Crimson Tide because if you have’nt noticed things are changing for the better bigtime at Alabama under Saban & co.Roll Tide!

Nachos

April 27th, 2009
12:50 pm

Hey bham wreck… how many people turned out for that “record setting crowd” this spring @ the barn???? 35,000! wow thats something to be proud of! enjoy your stay at the bottom of the sec west d ouche rocket! “Chiz is the shizzzzzzzz!”

Tide rising

April 27th, 2009
12:50 pm

Bham wreck,

I will quit arguing with you for the following reason and philosophy regarding arguing with idiots like yourself.

“Never argue with an idiot. He’ll drag you down to his level. Then he’ll beat you with experience.”

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
12:55 pm

Wanna talk about chicken GT fans????? How come you’re not in the SEC anymore?????????????? Just what I thought!!!!!!!Now shutup and watch the Star Trek episodes you got on your DVR!!!!

Maddog

April 27th, 2009
12:56 pm

BhamWreck. You said the SEC was overall down in 2008. I’ll have to agree that it was an off year by SEC standards, but let’s see…..

The SEC went 5-2 in bowl games

An SEC team won the NC

And now the SEC has more players drafted in the NFL than in any other conference.

Yeah, right, what a lousy year. Most conferences would kill to have such an “off” year.

LawDawg

April 27th, 2009
12:57 pm

Bham Wreck…

you are one funny dude. To say that GT will be a Top 10 yeam when they play UGA is absolutely on e of the funniest things I have heard…You and RambleOn might be one in the same? You 2 are consistent wanna be’s, not consistent winners.

Maddog

April 27th, 2009
1:03 pm

By the way, Bama fans, I’m with you regarding your pending prominence in college football. Last year’s late season “collapse” should not have surprised anyone. No knowledgable football fan would have predicted Bama coming on strong so soon. I thought it would take Saban until year 3 to begin making a difference and year 4 to be elite again. Instead, you were 12-0 and rated #1 at the end of the season in just year 2.

At least you guys have a rich history, an outstanding season to reflect back on, and a promising future. And Tech has…….????……. oh yeah, 45-42. You guys win 12 games are are #1 at the end of the regular season and they want to bash you. Tech wins 9 games and from listening to all the chest beating, you’d think they’re the next 4 horsemen.

GeoffDawg

April 27th, 2009
1:03 pm

Snap. SC pwned by Tony.

MonVol

April 27th, 2009
1:18 pm

Attention Rival fans, you don’t know all of the Coleman/Kiffin story, but you’re certainly welcome to ignore some facts. Facts such as Coleman was bracketed as co-#1 at the end of spring. The majority of Coleman’s reps were against the twos but he was getting more work recently with the ones. Coleman got ticked off because he wasn’t the clear number one out of spring. Coleman got ticked off again when Kiffin postponed a meeting with him, during a time when he was conducting individual meetings with every player on the team. Coleman got impatient when his needs weren’t immediately addressed and decided to leave. Kiffin didn’t dismiss him, didn’t promise him the starting job. Kiffin is making everyone compete for their starting jobs, except Berry of course, so he’s treating them all fairly.
Coleman could very well have been the starter in the season opener if he had only been patient enough to compete during fall camp. He didn’t want to compete as a co-#1, so he left. He left; not dismissed. Then he threw coaches and players under the bus when he didn’t get his way. Those who want to win and are willing to compete every day, will succeed. Everyone else will wash out…which is the way it should be.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 27th, 2009
1:19 pm

You’re damn right the Bear was a no-class thug. Just go back and read the accounts or look at the pictures from the 1961 Tech – Bama game in B’ham. Bama’s Darwin Holt SLAMMED Tech’s Chick Granning AFTER a play, totally shattering his jaw and sending him to the hospital, where his jaw had to be wired back together. Did Bear hit Granning? No, but one of his “pet” players did. Did Bear offer any kind of apology or mete out any kind of discipline on Holt? HELL, NO!!! He all but blamed Granning for the incident, even though he was blind-sided AFTER the play was over. This is not conjecture; this is documented fact, both by the media, the photos, and the game film. So, YES, Bear was a thug, if by no other reason, the fact that his teams were composed of thugs. That one incident was one of the primary reasons Tech left the SEC (the SEC never addressed the incident either). TO BEAR’S CREDIT, however, he actually sponsored and supported Tech’s attempt to rejoin the SEC in the late 70s or early 80s. It was Dooley who vetoed that move, or Tech would now be a member of the SEC.

Jon

April 27th, 2009
1:19 pm

Here another view:
Using the OP’s top 100 (or first three rounds) as a guide, this is the number of players drafted:

SEC: 18 (1.5 per team)
Big Ten: 15 (1.4 per team)
ACC: 14 (1.2 per team)
Big 12: 14 (1.2 per team)
Pac Ten: 13 (1.3 per team)
Big East: 9 (1.1 per team)
All others: 17

Not quite as impressive. But hey does that really matter Tony? What a AClown.

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
1:34 pm

When Boldin shattered his jaw, did he whine or anyone at Arizona whine like a little b!tch with a skinned knee?????

acc vs sec

April 27th, 2009
1:35 pm

Regarding sec vs acc last year.. Duke beat Vandy in Nashville (3rd place in the SEC East)!!! That is all that needs to be said… SEC is a joke.. i mean.. a seriously funny joke.. im still laughing after hearing that Duke beat the 3rd place SEC East team

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
1:38 pm

Not one SEC fan outside of the 10 or so Vandy fans give a crap what Vandy does or have done or will do!!!!!!!!!!!

Maddog

April 27th, 2009
1:41 pm

Supersize, wasn’t that “no-class thug” Bear Bryant the same man who once had to wear a football helmet to keep from having his head bashed from bottles and other debris begin thrown by the “classy” Tech fans during a game in Atlanta?

Maddog

April 27th, 2009
1:44 pm

acc vs sec. Please read my earlier post. The “joke” SEC won 5 of 7 bowl games, won the NC, and had more players drafted than any other conference. Posts such as yours are the joke.

DUH

April 27th, 2009
1:46 pm

Nachos, still stupid as ever I see. Bham Wreck is a GT fan, why do you think he would care about how many people showed up for the Auburn spring game.

God you are stupid.

Maddog

April 27th, 2009
1:48 pm

Supersize – I’m a little long in the tooth but I never heard the cheap shot by Bama is what lead Tech to withdraw from the SEC. I’ve heard two other theories:

(1) Dodd thought he could be the Notre Dame of the south if he wasn’t tied down by conference affiliations.

(2) Dodd didn’t like the fact that black athletes were prohibited from playing in the SEC.

Who knows the truth, but I seriously doubt it was that one indicent that lead Tech to making (in hindsight) a bad decision.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 27th, 2009
1:48 pm

Maddog, I don’t remember any incident like that in a Tech-Bama game. However, it did happen in a Tech-Notre Dame game, and that was inexcusable. BUT the fans are not accountable to the coach. The players ARE, and Bear did not and would not take responsibilty for the fact that one of his pets was an undisciplined thug. That was not the only incident in which Holt was involved; it was, however, the worst.

Maddog

April 27th, 2009
1:54 pm

Supersize – the Notre Dame incident involved throwing fish at the “catholic” boys. The Alabama thing did happen. I went online and it said it happened in 1964.

I agree there is a difference in the relationship between players and fans, but bad (or dangerous) behavior comes from all schools if you look back far enough. If Bear didn’t confront the player about the cheap shot then he deserved to be criticized. Just sayin’….

Supersize that order, mutt

April 27th, 2009
1:54 pm

Maddog, I said that the Darwin Holt incident was ONE of the reasons Tech withdrew from the SEC. The reasons you gave were also part of the picture. Interesting that Tech led the way in the south for not only playing against teams with black players but in recruiting black players. Meanwhile black students were being turned away at both Bama and UGAG and (I would assume) all other schools in the southeast. And you are right, that was a bad decision on Dodd’s part, whatever the reasoning. I have no complaints about the ACC, but geographically speaking, if for no other reason, Tech belongs in the SEC. As I said, Bear sponsored Tech’s possible re-entry, but Dooley vetoed it. I guess he feared another 8-year “drought” against the Jackets.

acc vs sec

April 27th, 2009
1:54 pm

Duke!! hahahahha

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
1:56 pm

Supersize,

How convenient is it that you don’t remember the bear helmet incident????

Maddog

April 27th, 2009
1:59 pm

Supersize – I agree that Tech belongs in the SEC. I hated it when the SEC expanded and picked up Arkansas. I thought other teams (Tech, Louisville, etc) would be better fits than Arkansas. I drove there for a game once. Sheer misery!

As for Dooley, I don’t know the history of what you’re talking about, but I doubt he had the type of control to be the lone reason Tech was not readmitted into the SEC. I may be wrong, but it’s water under the bridge. Again, Tech should be in the SEC.

Sam

April 27th, 2009
2:01 pm

I concur that the NFL’s obsession with 40 times is silly. A LINEMAN drops because of a 40 time? How often does a lineman ever run 40 yards? Watch them play especially against the better teams to see how they do.

Saint Nick

April 27th, 2009
2:03 pm

Sam,

There is always the “tackle eligible” play from your own 20!!!!LOL!!!

Miles

April 27th, 2009
2:04 pm

Hey, if Tennessee’s Coleman didn’t think he was treated fairly, then take his comments at face value. Whereas Coleman may not have proven himself the top QB at UT, nor has Kiffin proven himself in the SEC. On a more favorable note, Mr. Barnhart, you’re absolutely correct regarding your “stopwatch” comments per Vanderbilt’s Moore.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 27th, 2009
2:07 pm

Maddog, if you say you found a report on unruly Tech fans at the ‘64 Bama game, then I can’t argue with you. I was there, but it’s been so many years ago, I honestly don’t remember. The “fish incident” with Notre Dame happened in 1967. I have to admit, I thought that was funny. A worse incident happened against Notre Dame in 1980 (?), when bottles WERE thrown and Dan Devine. LIke I said, that kind of behavior is inexcusable in my book. I just recently re-read articles printed in the AJC about the Darwin Holt incident, and Bear never did apologize or confront Holt about it. The articles included extensive photos of the incident (I wish coverage was half-way near that thorough nowadays), and it was not a pretty sight. Another interesting episode which most UGAG and Bama fans have probably long forgotten was the SUPPOSED game-fixing arranged between Wally Butts and Bear in 1958 (I think that was the year). Butts was the real villain in that episode (IF, indeed, it happened). It was not actually fully reported until the mid-60s in a now famous and scandalous article written by Furman Bisher in the AJC.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 27th, 2009
2:11 pm

St Nick, you should take lessons from Maddog on how to make intelligent thoughtful posts. At least, he makes valid points which can be discussed intelligently.

ShutUpMutt

April 27th, 2009
2:11 pm

Georgia Tech beat UGA last time they played. You want respect GA? Win next time. Until then… eat it.

Lane (Shirt Rippin') Kiffin

April 27th, 2009
2:13 pm

Tech ain’t in the SEC?

GeoffDawg

April 27th, 2009
2:42 pm

Supersize that order, mutt – how old are you? Given that you were at the 64 game, that makes you middle aged at the least. Aren’t you a bit old for such a childish blog handle? That’d be like my grandfather posting under “Eat Sand, Nerd!”. Not very dignified.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 27th, 2009
2:49 pm

GeoffDawg, I’m not too old not to have fun with the rivalry. If you find it offensive, then that bespeaks your immaturity, I guess. I have friends, both from Tech and UGAG who know about my handle, and think it’s unique and hilarious. I even got an endorsement of sorts from Mark Bradley, who posted a message here 2 weeks ago in which he said he laughs everytime he sees it. “Eat Sand, Nerd” would not exactly fall into the category of uniqueness, but if your grandfather used the name but still made intelligent posts (which I believe I do for the most part), then I would probably applaud him, just like I did Maddog earlier.

GeoffDawg

April 27th, 2009
3:15 pm

Hmmm…don’t recall writing that I was offended, just that I found it odd. Have to disagree that despite Mark Bradley’s affections for you, that’s not a unique tech sentiment. There’s been some variation of fast food trash talk for as long as I can remember although granted, it’s not back to the sixties. Hence the comparison to a generic Georgia put down for tech fans. If you’re offended, then I apologize – just curious about the backstory.

Dink

April 27th, 2009
3:19 pm

Butts & Bryant were accused of “fixing” the 1962 UGA/Bama game (which the Tide win 35-0) in The Saturday Evening Post. Butts sued & was initially awarded 3 million which was later reduced. Bryant also successfully sued & both were exonerated.

Big Dawg

April 27th, 2009
3:28 pm

what?

April 27th, 2009
9:22 am
Coleman had a better spring than Crompton in terms of stats but remember Coleman was throwing against the 2nd team defense so in the end it evens him out with Crompton because even though he hasn’t been good, Crompton has starting experience and Coleman doesn’t and Crompton played against Tennessee’s 1st team d so he has a leg up there. It doesn’t matter because either quarterback isn’t going to be that great.

First, Coleman played against Tennessee’s 1st String defense in their Spring Game not Crompton as he went against the second string defense. Both players went against the first and second team defenses in practice only Crompton mainly played with the first string offense while Coleman did most of his with the second team offense. So in looking and evaluating their performances a reasonable person might conclude that Coleman did do a much better job, but not being a coach at Tennessee you and I do not know all the intangibles that go into selecting one QB over the other. But if what I suspect is the case then Tennessee is probably better off without Mr. Coleman and his its all about “ME” attitude.

Supersize that order, mutt

April 27th, 2009
3:51 pm

Dink, the article might have appeared in 1962, but Butts was not coaching at UGAG in 1962, Johnny Griffith was. I believe the game in question was in 1958.

Otto

April 27th, 2009
3:55 pm

Supersize, Don’t forget a GT frat tossing Green HotDogs at the Tulane Green Wave back in the 70s.

Cuz

April 27th, 2009
4:00 pm

Anybody other than me enjoying Tech and Bama fans going after each other.

Tuesday another two team rumble. The Florida Gators will blog against the Tennessee Vols in a shirts and skins matchup. You guess which team will wear the shirts.