Who will have best draft, ACC or SEC?

 

I assume that most of you will be watching the NFL Draft on Saturday. So, as a public service, here are some ACC and SEC Draft notes you can use to impress your friends during the broadcast. Thanks to Mike Finn of the ACC and Charles Bloom of the SEC for passing a lot of this stuff along.

So who is going to have the best draft, the ACC or the SEC? In the past five drafts the ACC has had 176 picks while the SEC has had 191. The ACC has had 31 first round picks (with a staggering 12 in 2006) while the SEC has had 37 first-round selections in those five drafts.

In four of the last five drafts the SEC has had the most picks but the ACC has almost always been a close second. The ACC blew everybody away with 51 total picks in 2006. Over the past five drafts the SEC and ACC are 1-2 in total selections.

Here is a quick look at how the six major conferences have fared in the last five NFL Drafts. After that will be some notes and charts you can use at your draft parties. See you Monday.

TOTAL SELECTIONS IN LAST FIVE NFL DRAFTS

Year—–ACC—–SEC—–BE—–BT—–B12—-Pac-10

2004—–25——-42——-28——44—–23——–28

2005—–36——-37——–8——-30—–34——–33

2006—–51——-37——-11——-41—–29——-32

2007—–31——-41——-16——-32—–28——-28

2008—–33——-34——-19——-28—–29——-34

TOTAL-176——191——-82——175–143——155

ACC DRAFT NOTES

**–Over the past three years, the ACC has had 25 players taken in the first round of the draft, more than any other conference.

**–In that same three-year span, the ACC has had 115 players drafted, more than any other conference.

**–In the past three years, the first defensive player taken in the NFL Draft has been from the ACC: Mario Williams, N.C. State (2006), Gaines Adams, Clemson (2007), Chris Long, Virginia (2008). No other conference has done that.

**–Miami has had a player taken in the first round for 14 consecutive seasons. That streak is expected is expected to end on Saturday. The streak began when DT Warren Sapp was taken in the first round in 1995.

**–Miami has had at least one player taken in the draft for 34 consecutive seasons. Virginia and Florida State have had at least one player taken in the draft for 25 consecutive seasons.

**–Since 1993 Florida State has had 100 players taken in the NFL Draft. That’s more than any other school.

**–The most first round selections ever from the ACC was 12 in 2006.

 

SEC DRAFT NOTES

**–Since 1997, the SEC has had 465 players drafted, an average of 38 per year.

**–The SEC has either led or been tied for the lead in most draft selections in 9 of the past 11 years.

**–The most first round selections ever from the SEC was 11 in 2007.

**–Three times in the past 11 drafts the SEC has had double digits selections in the first round: 1998 (10); 2005 (10); 2007 (11). The ACC has done it once (2006). No other conference has had double-digit draft picks in that time span.

**–The SEC had four players selected in the first 10 picks of the 2008 Draft (Darren McFadden, Arkansas (4), Glenn Dorsey, LSU (5), Derrick Harvey, Florida (8) and Jerod Mayo, Tennessee (10)).

**–LSU has had a player taken in the first round for five consecutive drafts.

**–The SEC has 14 players who are leaving early for the NFL Draft led by Georgia QB Matthew Stafford, Florida WR Percy Harvin, Alabama OT Andre Smith, and LSU DT Ricky Jean-Francois.

**–If Georgia’s Matthew Stafford is taken No. 1 by Detroit, he will become the fourth Georgia player and the 16th in SEC history to be the top overall pick. Can you name the other 15? Glad you asked: JaMarcus Russell, LSU (2007); Eli Manning, Ole Miss (2004); Tim Couch, Kentucky (1999); Peyton Manning, Tennessee (1998); Aundray Bruce, Auburn (1988); Bo Jackson, Auburn (1986); Joe Namath, Alabama (1965, AFL); Tucker Frederickson, Auburn (1965, NFL); Billy Cannon, LSU (1960); Harry Babcock, Georgia (1953); Bill Wade, Vanderbilt (1952); Harry Gilmer, Alabama (1948); Charley Trippi, Georgia (1947); Frank Sinkwich, Georgia, (1943); George Cafego, Tennessee, (1940).

 

Want to compare conferences? Try these two charts

 

TOTAL DRAFT PICKS SINCE 1997

YEAR—————-ACC————SEC

1997—————-22—————-25

1998—————-29—————-40

1999—————31—————–37

2000—————23—————–41

2001—————21—————–40

2002—————18—————–47

2003—————17—————–43

2004—————25—————–42

2005————–36——————37

2006————–51——————37

2007————–31——————41

2008————–33——————35

TOTAL———–337—————-465

AVG.————28.1————–38.75

 

FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS SINCE 1993

YEAR————–ACC————–SEC

1993—————4——————6

1994—————2——————6

1995—————3——————3

1996—————1——————4

1997—————8——————4

1998—————7—————-10

1999—————4——————8

2000—————4——————6

2001—————4——————5

2002—————3——————6

2003—————1—————–4

2004—————1—————–6

2005—————5—————-10

2006————-12—————–4

2007—————6—————11

2008—————7—————-6

TOTAL————72————–99

AVG.————–4.50———6.19

 

96 comments Add your comment

[...] Tony Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution goes inside the numbers to compare the recent draft day success of the SEC to the ACC.Yes, the SEC produces more pro players.  But did you know the ACC often runs a close second?The interesting digits can be found right here. [...]

Leland

April 24th, 2009
9:42 am

Mr. CB–how many did you say? Your pal, Leland

AUtiger

April 24th, 2009
9:49 am

The only reason the ACC has been a close second to the SEC in draft picks over the last five years is because VA Tech, FSU and Miami joined the conference.

JB

April 24th, 2009
9:51 am

The ACC is catching up because of Va. Tech, Miami, Fla. State,Boston College……As Miss. State,
Ole Miss, Arkansas have put out some fine players to add to the SEC……Yes, Tech has been there too. I wonder how many times johnson dreamed of playing in Mark Richt’s offense….Yes, I know he got his money and all, but what a waste playing with Reggie Ball…( not Tech, Reggie)…Not bashing , just true. Most Tech Fans would admit that also…. Can’t believe Gailey could not get a QB in there during that time to challenge that guy.

Atlanta Gator

April 24th, 2009
9:57 am

Clearly, the SEC has the edge in NFL draft picks over the past 15 years (a 37.5% edge, if we want to use statistics), but just as clearly, the ACC is producing a large number of NFL-caliber players, too.

I’m an SEC fan, but I’m not one of the SEC uber alles fanatics who mocks the ACC for fun and meanness. The ACC has had some good teams and great players during over the last 15 seasons. Right now, however, the SEC has a greater advantage than usual, both in terms of the quality of its top teams and the depth of its quality players, largely because the Florida State and Miami programs have fallen off the national football map over the last five seasons. Both programs will eventually re-assert themselves because of their financial resources and their natural recruiting base in one of the top 2 or 3 high school football states, and the ACC will then have two or more teams to challenge the SEC’s top teams again. It remains to be seen, however, whether the present FSU and UM coaches (Bowden and Shannon) will be the ones to lead those revivals, however. Personally, I expect Bowden will finally retire and Shannon will not survive long enough to complete the rebuilding of the FSU and UM programs.

[...] So who is going to have the best draft, the ACC or the SEC? In the past five drafts the ACC has had 176 picks while the SEC has had 191. The ACC has had 31 first round picks (with a staggering 12 in 2006) while the SEC has had 37 first-round selections in those five drafts. (ajc | Mr. College Football) [...]

GeoffDawg

April 24th, 2009
10:04 am

I’m sure the Falcons would’ve been happy to give Aundray Bruce back to Auburn.

Otherwise, this is probably just indicative of the level of talent avaialble across the region which makes it all the more curious that the ACC hasn’t gotten any more competitive nationally since their expansion. What’s up with that? Lack of football commitment on behalf of the mostly basketball conference or just a string of bad luck in choosing coaches? Even taking Miami and Va. Tech out of the equation, there’s no reason that a school like UNC, Clemson, or Virginia couldn’t occassionally make some noise with all the resources around them to draw from.

KG

April 24th, 2009
10:18 am

JB, Its hard to agree with a UGA fan but your right. Ball and Gailey cost him the Heisman for sure!

Buzz_29

April 24th, 2009
10:20 am

In 2011, the Robot becomes the number one pick in the draft.

VanDSIRROM

April 24th, 2009
10:24 am

The preponderance of SEC players selected are ’skill players’. The preponderance of ACC players come from the trenches. Take a look at QBs, RBs, CBs, etc.and you’ll see what I mean.

Also, Mr. CFB says, “**–The SEC has 14 players who are leaving early for the NFL Draft led by Georgia QB Matthew Stafford, Florida WR Percy Harvin, Alabama OT Andre Smith, and LSU DT Ricky Jean-Francois.”

Of these 4 players, Vanderbilt’s D J Moore (a junior, also)will be selected before 3 of them…write it down. Stafford will be #1, of course.

VanDSIRROM VandySportsNews.com

JB

April 24th, 2009
10:27 am

I’m sorry Buzz 29, No QB running that offense will be drafted by an NFL ream. Most ( I’d say All) want to have a top notch Vertical passing game. Johnson System will not produce that and the last place a NFL will look for a QB will be Tech. As GREAT as Pat White is, What do you do with him in the NFL and He has a great arm. Nesbitt better practice CATCHING in the summer if he EVER wants to see the NFL.

m

April 24th, 2009
10:37 am

Chan Gailey, the sorriest excuse for a coach in the history of the world, totally wasted Calvin Johnson. And he did not develop a QB while he was at Tech. Both A.J. Suggs and Reggie Ball got worse each year that they played for Chan. Chan Gailey could suck a football through a garden hose. He is the worst mistake in the history of Tech. Thank God and Greyhound that he is gone forever. Anyone that ever supported him SUCKS as bad as he does.

JB

April 24th, 2009
10:39 am

m……..I can’t get a feel for what you think of Gailey…Can you expand on your thoughts ?

JB

April 24th, 2009
10:41 am

Also m……. if you went to ANY TECH function, and they knew you were ” m”….. I think you would spend the day or evening talking to yourself…….Tech Fans are sick of you !

Miles

April 24th, 2009
10:45 am

The NFL Draft? What’s that?

Huh?

April 24th, 2009
10:55 am

“The ACC blew everybody away with 51 total picks in 2006.”

Yet, the ACC Champion was an 8-5 team in the season leading up to that draft. The ACC is the epitome of unfulfilled potential. What a horrible joke of a football conference.

King of Sandy Springs

April 24th, 2009
10:59 am

Atlanta Gator,
No so fast my friend. Take another look at how many teams were in the ACC vs. SEC. Most years there were only 9 teams vs. 12 in the SEC. So yeah, the SEC is probably going to have more darfted just by the shear fact they were 33% larger! So no, it’s not that “clear”. It’s pretty dadgum close.

GeoffDawg,
You’re right, the ACC has not been nationally competive when it comes to MNC and the BCS. However, I stand behind the ACC vs all other BCS’s, top to bottom. You’d bee suprised to see how well the ACC does out of conferance, especially against BCS schools during the regular season. The SEC, not so much. The SEC always has the weakest out of conferance scheduling. Look at the complete package of games, and not cherry pick. You’ll understand what i’m talking about.

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 24th, 2009
11:02 am

This should help the fleabags with the sting of 45-42.

Huh?

April 24th, 2009
11:08 am

“The SEC always has the weakest out of conferance scheduling.”

Maybe in whatever la la land that you live in, but not here on planet earth. The ACC has played more FCS opponents in the past 3 seasons than any other BCS conference:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=935257

“You’d bee suprised to see how well the ACC does out of conferance, especially against BCS schools during the regular season.”

Yes, I would be surprised, especially considering that 2009 was the first year in eons that the ACC didn’t lose more games than it won against the SEC and it is routinely dominated by the Big East.

ACC people just make crap up. That’s all there is to it.

Dean

April 24th, 2009
11:12 am

I’d be more interested to see which conference had more players to actually have made an impact in the NFL. Regular starters, Pro-bowlers, Award winners and so on. Many drafted players never really have an impact on any team.

ReptilesRule

April 24th, 2009
11:25 am

I’m more concerned about the guys who stay than the ones that leave. I always wish the players going all the best, best of health, thank you for your accomplishments and go make money. But to me, the NFL has become a very boring game thats all about the promotion and not about the passion.

Dean

April 24th, 2009
11:28 am

45-42; 45-42. Keep it coming Tech fans. You want to know something? Us Georgia fans were and are still much more concerned about the loss to Florida. I don’t sit around and say, “How are we going to catch up to Tech?”. Tech will be very good for the years that you have Johnson becuase he is a great coach. After he has grown tired of Atlanta and the smaller end of the ACC he will move on to better things and a new challenge. If I were you I would keep coming with the 45-42 stuff becasue once in every 7 years is just too infrequent to let an opportunity like this pass you by. Just know, we don’t consume our football worries around your team.

Dean

April 24th, 2009
11:31 am

Reptiles, you are exactly right. My northern freinds jsut don’t get why I get excited about college football but miss most every NFL game outside of the playoffs. It’s just not nearly as passionate or fun. One year I chose to watch Missouri play Troy State over the season opening NFL matchup of the Colts vs. Patriots game on t.v. It didn’t even occur to me to watch the NFL game.

Atlanta Gator

April 24th, 2009
11:31 am

King of Sandy Springs—-I am intimately aware of the ACC’s expansion history, as I have an alumni affiliation with one of the 8 original member universities, and I have attended many ACC football games over the years.

Please review the total draft picks stats column presented by Tony above. You will note that the four best draft years for ACC football players were 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008. Miami and Virginia Tech joined the conference in 2004; Boston College in 2005. That’s not a coincidence, and those three teams have contributed to making the number of ACC and SEC draft picks roughly even over the past four NFL drafts. Prior to the 2005 draft, however, you will also note that the percentage gap between total ACC and SEC draft picks (69%) was greater than the percentage difference in the number of schools (33.3%). Do the math for yourself. Statistically speaking, the ACC performed proportionately worse in draft picks prior to the addition of BC, UM and VT.

There’s a reason why the ACC leadership wanted to add those three schools so badly.

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 24th, 2009
11:49 am

Dean, you sound pretty consumed. 45-42!!!

Huh? Did you really say “epitome of unfulfilled potential” WOW-LMAO!!!

…like being preseason number 1 with 3 NFL first round Offensive players and lose 3 regular season games.

Thanks for you input Kettle…er, Huh?

GeoffDawg

April 24th, 2009
11:58 am

The college epitome of unfulfilled potential resides with a certain WR to which Stafford will soon be throwing.

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 24th, 2009
12:11 pm

…really, how so GeoffDawg. Please explain if you can.

Wow, this should be good.

Auditdawg

April 24th, 2009
12:24 pm

Glad to see this immediately devolved into 45-42, Reggie Ball sucks, Georgia was preseason #1 with all those first round draft picks and still lost three times silliness. I guess the children will play.

Anyways, the biggest reason that the ACC is not as nationally competitive as the SEC despite the similar number of first round draft picks is due to the depth. ACC teams routinely pull in top flight players and this shows in the number of first round selections. The difference is that if you take a top flight ACC school (i.e. Virginia Tech) versus a top flight SEC school (i.e. Florida) and compare their rosters, Virginia Tech is likely to have two to four draftable guys while Florida will have anywhere from eight to ten. That’s the big difference between the two.

It doesn’t mean that ACC football is terrible or anything like that, it’s just that SEC schools tend to stockpile talent. Miami and Florida State are the only two schools in the ACC comparable to what the SEC does in that respect. North Carolina under Butch Davis is working to get there and Tech may get there on the defensive side of the ball.

GeoffDawg

April 24th, 2009
12:25 pm

you really need an explanation? I thought you just “played” dumb.

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 24th, 2009
12:35 pm

yup, still waiting GeoffDawg.

Please explain to me how the number 2 NFL pick entering his 3 year is “epitome of unfulfilled potential”.

You can’t, because you are a total idiot.

GeoffDawg

April 24th, 2009
12:40 pm

Lol! Being called an idiot by Ramble On just proves I’m on to something. Nice try nancy.

Buzz_29

April 24th, 2009
12:41 pm

Ramble, I think GeoffDawg wrote “college epitome of unfullfilled potential.” And thanks to CCG that’s true.

College Fan

April 24th, 2009
12:45 pm

Tony – Comparing the number of ACC and SEC draft picks prior to 2004 really does not make sense. The SEC has had 12 teams since the early 90s, but the ACC expanded to 11 teams in 2004 and 12 teams in 2005. If you want to compare prior to 2004, a more accurate assessment would be average number of draft choices per team (where you take into account the number of teams in each conference). Wouldn’t you agree?

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 24th, 2009
12:56 pm

Hmmm, I think the 45-42 loser was referring to CJ. If the 45-42 loser is referring to CCG, she could have a point, but nothing to the extent of last year’s fleabag season.

Tom

April 24th, 2009
1:15 pm

Complete Wonderlic results are out.

In-state results (best score)…..

Darryl Richard 37
Matthew Stafford 35
Andrew Gardner 32
Mohamed Massaquoi 30
Michael Johnson 27
Brannan Southerland 26
Vance Walker 25
Asher Allen 25
Jahi Word-Daniels 23
Dannell Ellerbe 22
Corvey Irvin 15
Knowshon Moreno 13
Jarius Wynn 12

Cuz

April 24th, 2009
1:29 pm

Thank God Knowshon does not call plays.

Cuz

April 24th, 2009
1:30 pm

How many points do you get on the wonderlic for spelling your name right?

I still say wonderlic sounds like something UGA VII does on the sidelines.

GeoffDawg

April 24th, 2009
1:35 pm

And that my friends is the closest you’ll ever get to ramble on apologizing for being a moron. Time to get thicker glasses poindexter.

Barack Obama

April 24th, 2009
1:50 pm

Really enjoyed the visit by the Gators yesterday, wish I could have spent more time with Percy though, he’s really the bong…I mean bomb…oops shouldn’t have said that so loud here comes that damn Secret Service again, always in my business! Anyway Urban Meyer IS the man and I’m personally voting for Tebow in 2024! Michele enjoyed the whole experience and really showed those 1st place Gators what it’s really like to be in the “pole” position with her gatorvictory dance! I’m wearing my new jersey now with the # 1 on it but I really wanted a number 15. Oh well, I’m still looking for my dog, found the leash by the White House pond but no dog in it. He’s got to be in ONE of these two thousand freakin’ rooms! Anybody seen my little dog??…

Dean

April 24th, 2009
1:55 pm

Geoff, you did not know Georgia Tech is the greatest program of all time? Didn’t you know that they have always dominated the series with Georgia? They are exactly what Georga, Florida, Bama, Notre Dame and all of college football aim to be. Ramble On is an extremely intelligent observer of football whose concise, intelligent reporting is what earns him the respect of all readers.

Tom

April 24th, 2009
1:59 pm

Tony,

Since there was an article in the AJC last month dedicated to Percy Harvin’s Wonderlic score of 12, should we expect articles on Jarius Wynn’s 12 or Knowshon Moreno’s 13?

Otto

April 24th, 2009
2:16 pm

Dean, you watch the playoffs? I may watch the Super Bowl for something other than the commercials.

GeoffDawg

April 24th, 2009
2:25 pm

Dean – thanks for the clarification. All this time, I just thought ramble on didn’t have a lot going on upstairs but now I realize that like Jerry Lewis, he’s just not appreciated in his own time.

Also Tom – can you link your reference to those scores? It’s been previously reported that Stafford scored a 38 on the Wonderlic.

reggie ball

April 24th, 2009
2:29 pm

Huh?…i thought you were a loser that just hangs out on GT blogs. didn’t realize you sprayed your wisdom elsewhere

urban legend

April 24th, 2009
2:36 pm

the last place you’ll hear about Knownothing’s impressive wonderlic score is AJC.

Tom

April 24th, 2009
3:09 pm

Geoff…..there’s a hyperlink in the first line of my post @ 1:15pm.

Eric

April 24th, 2009
3:37 pm

Didn’t Auburn have 3 or 4 first round picks in ‘04. I think they did. WDE!!!

GeoffDawg

April 24th, 2009
3:39 pm

Ah, thanks – interesting to note that most teams put little stock into it anymore. Obviously for some positions, it’s probably not that significant but for certain players like QB, Center, Middle Linebacker, you’d still want one of the sharper knives in the drawer being the “coach on the field” so to speak. Also, I wonder why there’s a discrepancy between this report and the previous reports regarding Stafford’s score.

Voice of Reason

April 24th, 2009
4:51 pm

Ramble On- for your explanation of why Calvin Johnson was the epitome of wasted potential you should ask yourself, what did we ever accomplish as a team with him at Tech. Nothing. You had one of the greatest talents at WR to come through college in years and yet due to having Reggie Ball as a QB and Gailey as a coach you couldn’t beat UGA one single time much less win the ACC. That is why he is the epitome of wasted talent in college football. I shouldn’t have had to explain that to you but you are obviously to stupid to think with any sense of logic or reason!

Voice of Reason

April 24th, 2009
4:54 pm

and btw- he said college unfulfilled, so it doesn’t matter what he does in the NFL