What’s missing at Georgia? Absolutely nothing

 

 

The question was a sincere one from a young reporter who really wanted to know:

What’s missing at Georgia?

His point: The SEC has won four national championships since Mark Richt got to Georgia in 2001. None of them belonged to the Bulldogs. Florida has won two of the last three BCS titles. LSU won national championships in 2003 and 2007 and has won three SEC championships in the past eight years. Georgia was ranked No. 1 prior to the 2008 season and finished with a “disappointing” 10-3 record.

So he wanted to know what those programs have that Georgia doesn’t have.

I didn’t agree with the premise of the question but I wanted to give him an answer backed up with some facts. So I crunched a few numbers and came up with this answer: There is nothing missing at Georgia that a little perspective, and maybe an All-SEC defensive end or two, wouldn’t cure.

I do a weekly radio show out of Nashville (104.5 The Zone) and last Wednesday a caller asked me if Richt would be in trouble if he had another “disappointing” season. He was serious.

Now Mark Richt certainly doesn’t need me to make a case for him. But let’s all take a deep breath here and try to take some of the emotion of last season out of the process.

Here is what the top six football programs in the SEC have accomplished in the eight years that Mark Richt has been at Georgia:

Team————Wins—–SEC wins*—–SEC Champ—-BCS Bowls——-BCS titles

Georgia———-82———–46—————-2——————3——————-0

LSU—————-82———–45—————-3——————4——————-2

Florida————77———–46—————2——————-3——————-2

Auburn————71———–43————–1——————-1——————-0

Tennessee——–68———–42————–0——————-0——————-0

Alabama———-62————35————-0——————-1——————–0

*–Does not count SEC championship game appearances

Here is a look behind those numbers:

Nobody has won more games (82) and more conference games (46) in eight years than Richt. LSU is tied for total wins and Florida is tied for conference wins.

Only seven men in the history of Division I-A football have won 80 games in their first eight seasons as a head coach. Richt is one of those seven.

Only LSU, with three, has won more SEC championships in that span than Richt’s two. He has taken Georgia to the SEC championship game three times in eight seasons. Only LSU has been there more, with four appearances.

What about the national championships won by Florida and LSU while Georgia fans are still waiting for their first since 1980? Okay, that’s fair. But consider this: Winning a national championship is a function of being good but, in the BCS system, it is also a function of luck.

Auburn wasn’t lucky in 2004 despite being undefeated. Southern Cal and Oklahoma started the season ranked 1-2 and both went undefeated. They finished ahead of Auburn and the Tigers didn’t get the chance to play for the title.

In 2006 Florida was ranked No. 4 on championship Saturday but caught a break when No. 2 Southern Cal lost to UCLA. Florida jumped over No. 3 Michigan and into the championship game with Ohio State. If Southern Cal takes care of business, the Gators go to the Sugar Bowl and don’t win Urban Meyer’s first national championship.

In 2007 LSU began championship Saturday ranked No. 7. But losses by No. 1 Missouri and No. 2 West Virginia opened the door and LSU vaulted to No. 2. LSU proved it was the best team in the country when it trounced Ohio State in the BCS championship game. But if either Missouri or West Virginia wins, LSU never gets that chance.

The point is that if a coach with all the resources he needs is not competing at the top of his conference, then he is fair game. Georgia fans should expect their program to play at the highest level and to compete for SEC championships on a regular basis. But if a coach is competing at the top of this conference, then championships become a function of injuries and breaks.

Now, should Georgia fans be concerned that Florida has won two of the last three national championships and will be just about everybody’s preseason No. 1 in 2009?

You bet. Based on what I saw in my two days last week in Gainesville, everybody in this league is going to have to step it up to keep pace with the Gators. And there is the challenge for Richt and every other coach in this league.

 Am I missing something here? If so, the floor is yours.

 

 

 

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m

April 21st, 2009
8:46 am

Richt won’t be in trouble this year after TECH whips the dawgs for the second time in a row, but next year the 3rd in a row might be a the charm….just like donnan. The dawgs have lost 4 out of the last 5 to Tech when Tech’s coach was not named gailey. Thank God and Greyhound that Chan Gailey is gone forever…too bad you dawgies are really going to miss him.

LSWho?

April 21st, 2009
8:47 am

Auburn did in fact win the 2004 People’s Choice National Championship. That celebratory hayride through town is legendary.

Bull Gator

April 21st, 2009
8:48 am

It’s great to be a Florida Gator!

Corrine Brown (D) FL

April 21st, 2009
8:54 am

You sed it, gator take no jive!

GO GATOR!

Mad Dog

April 21st, 2009
8:56 am

Tony, please include the number of player arrests, graduation rate, and penalties in your analysis. I guess you can’t do graduation rate since Adams won’t release those figures under Richt. When a team goes from #1 to unranked during the regular season, that does not support the assertion that nothing is wrong.

2N4YEARS

April 21st, 2009
8:57 am

Every Rose has it’s Thorn bullgator. Nice run…..what goes around comes around.

MiltonDawg

April 21st, 2009
9:00 am

Richt is not going anywhere. Those #’s are very impressive, but we still short SEC champion and NC.

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Jack

April 21st, 2009
9:05 am

This negative talk about Richt makes me sick. THESE ARE THE GLORY YEARS for GA football – the most consistent high quality football they have ever played over an extended period of time. And Richt is one of the most respected men in his field. Without Walker Vince Dooley would have had HALF the conference championships he won. Richt is on pace to far out distance Dooley. And need anyone be reminded of the dark abyss following Dooley? Ray Goff? Jim Donnan? Please.

2009 PT CFB

April 21st, 2009
9:06 am

Great analysis. Can we discuss the reasons Notre Dame will never win a BCS championship?

Supes

April 21st, 2009
9:08 am

If there is another “disappointing” season at UGA, some changes on the coaching staff will be in order, esp. if the defense doesn’t step up after last year’s fiasco. I think CMR’s job is safe, but Free Willie will be on the hot seat, should be on the hot seat, and CMR’s loyalty will have to give.

richtfan

April 21st, 2009
9:08 am

it’s more luck than anything Tony. The right teams from the Big East and Pac 10 MUST lose late in the season in order for a 1 loss SEC team to make it in. Florida and LSU were not undefeated, so this had to happen in order to let them in. Gayters and Tekkimites, just keep talking. We’ll keep working. You’ll see what happens.

bigdawg01

April 21st, 2009
9:10 am

Tony,
For Dawg fans, 2 things truly matter. 1st: beat FL, and beat them on a regular basis. 2nd: Beat GT, which has been a success this decade.

My question is how can Richt bridge that gap with FL? We did not do that great against them when Zook was the head coach. Both schools pull from the same talent base in FL, GA, AL, but it seems that Meyer just gets more from his guys. Is there a disconnect in the coaching staffs or just motivation? I dont think 10-3 is disappointing, but in those losses there were complete breakdowns. Meyer said that after the loss to Ole Miss he had his players practicing until 11 pm that following night. Richt would never do that.

Mikey

April 21st, 2009
9:12 am

I agree that nothing is missing.
I will take Coach Richt over anyone.

Hondo

April 21st, 2009
9:17 am

Under CMR the Dawgs have finished 2nd and 3rd…In both cases they had the best team in the US at the end of the year…Fla and LSU both got lucky breaks to end up in BCS Championship…Which ever SEC team makes it into the BCS Championship game will win…They have championship game experience that comes from every saturday in the SEC…Just another game…

Jax Dawg

April 21st, 2009
9:20 am

Techsters, enjoy your one in a row over the Dawgs. The spread worked once, but it won’t work again. You guys didn’t give out rings to your players for nothing. It was to commemorate the unbelievable and improbable victory over UGA. Heck all the students and alumni should have received rings too. Good win, enjoy the next seven months. It will go by fast. Go Dawgs. Coach Richt, God bless you!

Old Dawg

April 21st, 2009
9:22 am

Some fans are simply crazy. Look how long it took Paterno to win a national championship, and Tom Osborne struggled to get past Barry Switzer and Oklahoma. After the bootlegger’s son left the Sooners in disgrace, then the Huskers started winning titles.

Arrests etc? Check out any school in the country and the all have their fair share of problems with players getting in trouble. Penalties? Sure, they hurt but the UGA coaches have made correcting penalties and overall team behavior a major goal this year (no arrests so far this year, and academic standings are good).

As for not living up to the hype of being ranked No. 1, check out the history and you’ll see more times than not the team ranked at the top at the beginning of the season doesn’t win the title.

Like Jack said, never in the history of Georgia football have the Bulldogs had such a string of regular season and bowl game success. Chill, people, the Dawgs will have their National Championship day if we all accept the bounces and Good Old Lady Luck that is college football!

Moe Lester

April 21st, 2009
9:23 am

“THESE ARE THE GLORY YEARS for GA football”…. are you kidding me? UGA fans are the most delusional fans in the country. Fear the blackout, 2008 Pre-season national champs baby! woof woof

DC Braves Fan

April 21st, 2009
9:24 am

Tech whipped the Dawgs last year? 45-42? What then, would one call a 51-7 score?

You won. Celebrate. But do not revise history. You do yourself no service when you describe a three-point game in which your defense gives up 42 points a “whipping.”

bo

April 21st, 2009
9:25 am

You have to love the Tech fans on here. They’re like the little brother who never shuts up, and you can’t believe a word he says. Go Dawgs!!!

Frank Arnold

April 21st, 2009
9:25 am

If a late Vandy field goal attempt against Tenneessee is good instead of hitting the upright, Georgia goes to the SEC C’Ship game and very likely plays for the ‘07 BCS title. And the Dawgs were on a roll! Game of inches, indeed! Old Lady Luck has got to smile your way.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
9:28 am

UGA needs to put more recruiting into lineman. ‘08 was not disappointing other than the GT loss (yes gloat while you can) The lines oon both sides of the ball were thin and UGA paid the price. It was expected going into the season. ‘07 was disapppointing with the loss to S Car keeping UGA from playing for a national title.

The other thing UGA needs is a better receivers coach. Looking into the new year DE is thin hopefully UGA gets some people healed up. Why does UGA need 4 elite 11 QBs when they are constantly putting together the lines? JPW was a mediocre QB but a great Bama OL put them in the SECCG.

MoDawg

April 21st, 2009
9:28 am

Coach Richt is safe for as long as he wants to stay at UGA and as long as he keeps up his winning percentage. I think what UGA is needing is a little bit of a shakeup in its assistant coaching staff. I’m not a Martinez “hater”, but if his defense is no better this year than last, he needs to either go or be demoted. The facts are that his defenses have progressively gotten worse since he took over the D-Coordinator position,
the kickoffs that go out of bounds or are returned to the 35-40 yard line, not withstanding.

GeoffDawg

April 21st, 2009
9:29 am

Point of order Tony – you can argue both ways regarding who deserved to be in the title game in 2007 but I believe you said yourself that Georgia was the best team in the country at the end of the season.

Joey

April 21st, 2009
9:32 am

Mikey, I am also a Richt fan – he’s a great coach and even greater man. But would I trade him for Myer or Saban? Absolutely.

DawgGirl32

April 21st, 2009
9:36 am

Tony, I’m so glad you wrote this article. This is exactly what I’ve been saying for months. The numbers don’t lie. Sure, Florida and LSU have worked as hard as anybody but in the end, most of it comes down to luck. The numbers don’t lie. Until we have a playoff system, we’re never really going to know who the best team in the nation is.

Mad Dog- At what point were we unranked this year? I’m pretty sure we were ranked all year long and finished in the top 10 but don’t let facts get in your way.

dawg68

April 21st, 2009
9:36 am

I get a kick out of the “trade school” people like M, they win once in 8 years and now they think they have a trend, it is just funny. I wonder if they are still shouting about the beatdown they received from LSU? Be advised “dirt daubers” the dawgs defense will be well prepared for your offense this November. Payback is coming. When we win maybe we’ll put the score on our seniors rings, I am still laughing at you clowns.

Mikey

April 21st, 2009
9:37 am

M- What was that score at the chicken bowl again ?
Please refresh me on that. Was it 38-3 or something like that? Oh yeah, now I recall. THAT was a whipping.
45-42 is not a whipping, unless you are on the defensive side of the ball for both teams.
Please go back and pull the fries out before they burn…thanks.

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 21st, 2009
9:38 am

I agree Tony, luck has a lot to do with it.

UGAg was very lucky Jan Kemp didn’t say anything back in 1980.

hop

April 21st, 2009
9:38 am

Jack is right on taget! georgia football has NEVER been better even vince was 6-5 before walker showed up and saved dooley’s job.

everything runs in cycles and mark right will win a national championship.
tech fans need not worry about the dawgs, you better worry about when coach johnson will go to a bigger and better program.
even with all of the wins last year, the support by tech fans was pathetic.

jerry

April 21st, 2009
9:40 am

Mr. Barnhart: I have another “if”. IF Richt were not 2-6 vs. FLA………….what then?

Atlanta Gator

April 21st, 2009
9:41 am

I’ve said it before, and I will say it again, with all due humility . . . to win a BCS championship, your team must be talented, well coached, and at least a little bit lucky.

There 120 universities that currently field a Division I (a.k.a. Football Bowl Subdivision) team, only 30 have earned at least a share of a consensus national title. Of those 30, only 18 have won more than one title. Of those 18, only 7 have won at least a share of five or more national titles. The last first-time title winner was Florida in 1996; there have been no other first-time winners in the last twelve seasons. In the last 25 seasons, there have been only 4 first-time title winners (including Florida). The other 21 championship teams were repeat winners.

What this tells us is that most national title football teams are the product of programs that are long-term contenders. In order to get your “lucky” shot at the brass ring, your team needs to be consistently competitive with the top 10 or 15 teams in the country, with the occasional break-through year. Florida has won the SEC eight times in the last nineteen seasons, but they have only made it to a BCS/BC/BA title game four times, and only won it three times.

If you want it, you’ve got be at the top of the pile more often than not.

Mikey

April 21st, 2009
9:41 am

Joey- no way.
Meyer or Saban?
No way.
I will take Coach Richt as long as he wants to be here. Saban will bolt for more money as soon as he hits a rough patch and Meyer will go to Notre Dame as soon as Weis leaves which puts the Tide and the Gator back to square one.
Meanwhile we will keep right on plugging along. Success is a journey- not a destination.

Go Dawgs!

gdawginkalamazoo

April 21st, 2009
9:42 am

bull gator, you are correct. If you are a Florida Gator you should be one happy reptile.

Tony, I like the chart. Maybe some of the folks who are unhappy with Richt will calm down. We are blessed to have him as our Coach. Winning and doing it the right way. It proves the point that the man knows how to win. As some above have mentioned it can take time to get that NC. Shorter for some longer for others. As long as Richt is running the program the right way and continues winning, this fan is okay with that.

joe

April 21st, 2009
9:46 am

Frank,

If UGA had taken care of its business and beat TN that year, they wouldn’t have had to rely on Vandy. If if’s and but’s were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas…

Cuz

April 21st, 2009
9:47 am

Nothing is missing. Go team, go coach.

Huh?

April 21st, 2009
9:48 am

Richt has produced an unprecedented number of crybaby wet the bed UGA haters. There are more now than there have ever been from my perspective. I’ve been a Georgia fan for around 15 years now. He must be doing something right.

I am a staunch defender of Richt but he is not perfect. No coach is. Not even the Gainesville Golden Boy Urban Meyer has got it all figured out. I have been troubled in recent years by how our team simply fails to show up during certain stretches of certain games. It all started with the first half of the Sugar Bowl against WVU. In every year since there has been at least one game where our team is absolutely lifeless and gets its doors blown off. The most frustrating part is that its never for the entire game. We play like deadbeats for a half (or even a quarter in the case of 2008 Georgia Tech) and then light the world on fire in the other half. That tells me that we’re not playing up to our potential for 4 quarters of football. Its inexcusable and Richt has got to fix this problem. During the 2002-2005 era we rarely ever got whipped like we have in the past few years. It just didn’t happen.

With that said, Richt will get his national title soon enough. Its going to happen haters. You best come to terms with it beforehand to avoid the shock and lessen the misery that awaits you. True story.

the real OLD GOLD

April 21st, 2009
9:49 am

A year and two months before I was even born UGA football won its last national title and that was done with players that could barely read. Now say what you will, but this is a fact that does matter to those fans, students, alumni etc. I’m a Tech season ticket holder, so I’m not one of them, but living in Georgia all my life I can tell you that the ones I know well are getting tired of the waiting game, and last season just about did them in. Championship frustration can get a lot of good coaches canned, even if they, themselves, weren’t responsible for the entire period of frustration. For example: Tommy Bowden, Tommy Tubberville, and even Phil Fulmer, and he even won a title in the last 12 years. Richt better produce soon, or he’s out.

mcdawg

April 21st, 2009
9:49 am

Notre Dame will not win a National Championship again b/c the institutions as a whole does give a rats about winning Nat Championships-UGA does and will-2002 there was no doubt that UGA was as good or better than the two teams that played for the championship that year-the polls still determine the outcomes-outcomes don’t determine the polls

gatorman770

April 21st, 2009
9:52 am

Gators would rather be lucky ….and good, i.e. in each National Championship/BCS game (1996, 2006, 2008) the Gators dominated their opponent and left no doubt who the winner was!
Until there is a playoff system comparable to March Madness…luck will continue to have some bearing on who plays for the National Championship just as it was in 1980 when Notre Dame lost and allowed the Ugays to play and win the National Championship.

Bo Williams

April 21st, 2009
9:53 am

What was ND’s record and their ranking when UGA beat them in the Walker era for the NC. Did UGA play the best available opponent. If not, did they really deserve the NC, since they did not play the best available opponent?

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 21st, 2009
9:53 am

I really don’t believe dawg68 is laughing, but I’m LMAO!!!

45-42 LAUGH ON BROTHER!!!

PTC DAWG

April 21st, 2009
9:57 am

IF you don’t understand that some amount of LUCK is usually involved with the current MNC shot, then you just don’t understand.

Good Day.

Frank

April 21st, 2009
9:57 am

Joe,

You are right about that.

DirtyDawg

April 21st, 2009
9:59 am

My Tech buddies are really something. I couldn’t find one in five that thought Paul Johnson was gonna’ be able to cut it in the ‘bigs’ this time last year. All they were glad about was that Chan Gailey was gone. Now the trade-schoolers can’t build the trailers fast enough to hook onto the bandwagon. Now they want to pretend that Chan Gailey was never there in the counting of the W/L record with us (it ain’t the same thing as the WWII argument) but guess what, it does count…and you can’t go back and pretend that Reggie Ball never QB’d there either, cause if you do then we’ve got a couple of lousy official’s calls that cost Jim Donnan at least two losses. So the point is what goes around comes around. A little tougher tackling by the DBs on the edge – you know, like LSU did to you poor YallerJackets last New Year’s Eve – and the the Josten folks, or whoever you had make those commemorative rings (for a three-point victory?) wouldn’t have had to heat up the forges.

We’ll show up at, ‘fabled’, Grant Field this November (fabled because it’s the only college campus stadium that tore down a third of it’s stadium so it wouldn’t look so empty on Saturdays) and by the time this game’s over, you’ll be negotiating with MARTA to take some of these wagons off your hands.

SmokeyRules

April 21st, 2009
9:59 am

Don’t forget about my Vols. We will start whuppin y’all just like we normally do. Kiffin has energized the fanbase and is recruiting lights out. Thank God and Greyhound Fulmer is finally gone. Gators and Dawgs…your time is coming. Monte Kiffin will make sure that Eric Berry stops Tebow cold. Crompton is one of the most underrated quartebacks int he SEC. Go Big Orange

Kiffinisatosser

April 21st, 2009
10:05 am

Smokey…Crompton underrated? Are you serious? You guys are a total joke. Kiffin is going to have more deer in the headlight reactions than any coach int he SEC. And as for Kiffin’s recruiting, loading up on RBs doesn’t help that much because only one can carry the ball at a time. Enjoy your 5 win season. I’ll check in on your message board to see how much love you guys have for Kiffin then…bwahh

Todd

April 21st, 2009
10:06 am

Tony, I’ve said time and time again, GA. has not beaten UF and Tenn. in the same yr. yet, and I’m still waiting. As a UGA grad and loyal bulldog, I’m a big M. Richt guy, but I hate to say he has blown opportunities in his 8 yrs. What comes to mind are a few of those awful , miserable 13-10 games against Ron Zuke. Tenn at home, I think it was 2006. Ironically, I was just talking this subject yesterday and the other thing added about MR were these mystery blow out games that pop up, Tenn. up there a few yrs. back for example. The other issue discussed was loyalty with players sometimes backfiring, the Joe T. experiment for example. Do you realize if Joe T. had not been hurt in the So. Car. game, most likely would’ve lost. I’m afraid we may get in to this scenario if Coxy doesn’t pan out and then they turn to Logan Gray (why was he returning punts last yr. and the guy who ran the one back against the Tide returned 2 the whole yr.?).

I don’t know what the answer is to getting MR over the hump, I’m not ready to have a jack—ss like Saban screaming at kids at the top of his lungs, however short of taking his last breath the guy will get it done at Alabama at some point.

alsim

April 21st, 2009
10:06 am

It’ll never happen in Athens as long as Richt is the head coach. I have nothing against him. He is a fine man and a good coach. But he cannot put a whole season together.
If you are happy with 10 wins seasons & BCS bowls, he is your man. If you want a National Championship at UGA, then start looking for a new coach.

.

JB

April 21st, 2009
10:10 am

To hell with the Haters on this blog……….We win just about every time we take the field…..and they know it.

Gators!!!

April 21st, 2009
10:11 am

In 1980, not only did Georgia not play the best available opponent in the Sugar Bowl (Pitt or Oklahoma, not ND), there was no SEC Championship Game yet and it also didn’t play the other three SEC schools with the best records that year — including Alabama and LSU. Prior to the Sugar Bowl, Georgia’s “best” wins in 1980 were over South Carolina and Florida, who both finished 8-4.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
10:12 am

Smokey, Berry can’t do it all and that is who you have. Monte is not that great and may turn out to be the defensive version of Charlie Weis. We’ll see how the fan base is after Urban hangs 50 on you and is calling time outs. Fulmer had passed his prime but with a decent OC such as Cutcliff he fielded a solid team. Lane Kiffin will come and go. He is the next Callahan or Weis.

Tony thank you for sticking up for CMR. AS a few of us have said CMR’s SEC title teams and the ‘07 team could play with anyone in the country. The team has not had the lucky breaks to win the title. How many of those SEC championship teams won the title with one or more losses?

Huh? you are dead on. CMR has slept in at least 1 game each season. CMR isn’t perfect but I will take him. A little shake up in the coaching staff wouldn’t hurt.

Tide rising

April 21st, 2009
10:15 am

Good article. I don’t think anyone can argue with Richt’s consistency and the fact that he is indeed a good coach who will continue to be successful.

But what the article doesn’t reveal that numbers and stats can’t tell you is what’s happened at other programs outside of Richt’s good 8 year run of success. What I can sense from some some of my UGA friends is that Richt missed his window of opportunity. During the last 8 years there was a window of opportunity while Zook was at Florida and UGA wasn’t able to take command of the series when UF was down. Now that Zook is gone and Florida is back on top it seems as though the dawgs are now just an afterthought in the east and will live in Florida’s shadow for as long as Meyer is at Florida. UGA certainly won’t beat UF this year and if they lose next year also as they likely will then Richt will be something like 1-9 or 2-8 against UF. I’m not sure if he has 1 or 2 wins against UF in 8 tries. At that point the seat gets very hot. Don’t think it can happen? Just ask Tubberville or Fulmer who were each 1 year removed from successful seasons.

And its not just Florida. The fact that Tech is back on the rise is a problem for UGA. Will Tech now dominate the series? No way. But rather than Dawg fans looking at Tech on the schedule and automatically circling a win they now know that this game will be just another mine in the minefield It will not be a game the dawgs can take for granted. Tech’s talent level will continue to rise and going forward this will now be a game that just makes things that much harder for the dawgs.

2 other things to consider are that UT and Auburn, 2 of the traditionally tougher games for UGA, can only get better. It remains to be seen how Chizik and Kiffin will fare but the bottom line is that these 2 programs are historically to good to be kept down for long.

And while UGA doesn’t have Bama as a regular rival Bama is another program that is back on the rise after the probation of the early 2000s. As Richt found out last year playing an Alabama team at full strength is a lot different than playing the probation and 21 scholarship reduced Alabama teams from 2002-07. Given the historical dominance of the Tide over UGA this will just be another mine in the minefield 4 of the next 8 years.

Bottom line is that Richt has missed his window of opportunity. He is a good coach but the sec is just going to get tougher and tougher and as long as Meyer is at UF UGA will be in Florida’s shadow. UGA fans need to ponder and ask 1 question of themselves. If Richt continues to lose to UF for another 2-3 years at what point does the record against the gators get so bad that Richt is gone? Will it be 2-8, 2-9,2-10. That’s the question you have to ask yourselves.

Okefenokee Dawg

April 21st, 2009
10:16 am

Richt will be a great coach when Florida quits owning us!

Ken

April 21st, 2009
10:16 am

UGA is the only team that has had one coach for eight years. The thing that is alarming is why doesn’t all those wins = BCS Title? There has to be something missing????

BULLDAWG FEMALE GRAD

April 21st, 2009
10:16 am

I AM A FEMALE THAT GRADUATED FROM UGA WITH A DEGREE IN SPORTS BUSINESS, THE PROBLEM IS NOT MARK RICHT. THE PROBLEM IS THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, MIKE B O B O. HE SUX. NOW CHEW ON THAT. I GUARANTEE THAT ANYONE WHO IS READING OR PARTICIPATING IN THIS BLOG THAT ATTENDED UGA AGREES, THE PROBLEM IS MIKE BOBO & IT WILL SOON CAUSE COACH RICHT HIS GREAT JOB BETWEEN THE HEDGES. FOR REAL

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Huh?

April 21st, 2009
10:22 am

“I’m not sure if he has 1 or 2 wins against UF in 8 tries.”

Translation: I haven’t the slightest clue what the hell I am talking about. Ignore me.

Jeff

April 21st, 2009
10:22 am

Funny you mention if we (UGA) should be concerned that gaytors won the title last year….Tony, go check your stats, each year UF has won the NC, who has beat them the following year????? Yep- UGA

The Truth About the AJC

April 21st, 2009
10:23 am

ANYONE WONDERING WHERE CHIP TOWERS HAS BEEN?

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http://sportsontheair.blogspot.com/2009/04/atlanta-journal-constitution-sports.html

Old Retired Army Officer

April 21st, 2009
10:24 am

Maybe what Georgia lacks is a head coach with guts enough to fire incompetent coordinators( I don’t really need to name them, do I?) and kick somebody in the ass, to include players, who don’t measure up to their inflated salaries or scholarships. Too bad he doesn’t have a staff of Stacey Searles’ types. Then maybe he would win an SEC title even with Meyer and Saban hanging around….and maybe even a NC one day.

ATLCT

April 21st, 2009
10:24 am

wrote “The dawgs have lost 4 out of the last 5 to Tech when Tech’s coach was not named gailey.”

Oh yea, well, the dawgs have won 10 out of the last 10 night games in September on an odd-numbered date when we were playing on grass in the rain and had a quarterback that was not named quincy carter.

Ok, mine’s not true, but what a dumb stat, I thought the techies were supposed to be the smart ones.

Liebs

April 21st, 2009
10:25 am

Hey Mr. College Football, I have a question. I understand the readership of the Atlanta area is primarily fans of Georgia and the SEC in general, but should you do at least one article on the D1A school actually based in Atlanta before august? I mean there have been a few but they haven’t in any way involved what the football program is doing ( 1 was the coach at a charity event and the other was actually only a section of an article talking about what Paul Johnson said about defenses getting used to his offense, something that has been written about by everyone since January). It is just kind of annoying when the school has its Spring game and the college football expert of the home town newspaper completely ignores it.

Jeff

April 21st, 2009
10:25 am

Who do you idiots say UF “OWNS” us, whats the record in the last few games….it has been back and forth…yes the gators won in the 90’s and early 2000 but UGA was 19-6 against them before that. Nuff said, if gators “OWNED” us, we would not have a 11 game lead in the series.

Mike Bobo

April 21st, 2009
10:25 am

Dear Female Bulldawg, it’s a shame that your stellar UGa edumacation did not impart to you the wisdom of not typing in all caps. So with that excellent degree, which are you managing, the Braves or the Hawks?

The Truth About the AJC

April 21st, 2009
10:25 am

SORRY, MS. WALLACE CAN BE REACHED AT…

JDWALLACE@AJC.COM.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
10:26 am

I take Richt over anyone else. Go ahead and talk trash but I stand behind our coach. I’m not worried about Tech( they are bound to win once in a while), I’d like to get the breaks that Florida and LSU have recieved. UGA has a great program that consistently performs very well under Richt. Anyone that denies that is just a hater who can’t look at the facts without bias.

Erk

April 21st, 2009
10:30 am

Real OLD GOLD, Richt HAS produced. Look at the numbers. Two SEC championships (3 SEC championship games) when we had not won a conference championship for 20 years. A national championship will come as long as we continue to compete at this level each year provided we get better defensive end play than in 08. It will take some luck as many bloggers have pointed out. Fl & LSU will admit they had some luck in those championship years. Auburn was great in ‘04 but just didn’t have the luck. It will be imperative that we get more production from defensive end or the perception will be that Martinez is weak, as our whole defensive scheme depends on defensive end pressure.

Bill

April 21st, 2009
10:31 am

Good article Tony.Is there a website I can access to kisten to your weekly radio show in Nashville?

The stat checker

April 21st, 2009
10:31 am

Jeff,

Hard to believe you’re calling other people idiots with your nonsensical rant about stats. Quit living in the past. You sound like a Bammer fan and even they don’t live in the past anymore. No one cares about UGAs record back in the day. All that’s fresh in people’s minds is watching beatdown after beatdown 16 out of the past 19. People remember those games, not stuff that happened 30 or 40 years ago when a lot of people on this blog either weren’t even born yet or were just children and don’t remember those days.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
10:32 am

Tubby was constantly at odds with certain Auburn alumni (Jetgate?). IMO after Franklin did not work out he wanted to get fired and collect his check. Borges was let go because of the outside pressure. Tubby will be back in coaching at some point. Fulmer was on a downward slide and Cutcliff saved his job a few years ago. After he went to Duke the press ran Fulmer out of Tenn.

Female grad has a point. IMO if a coordinator needs to be let go it is Bobo and it may cost the entire staff. The red zone offense was bad again in the spring game. UGA is getting big plays off of talent and can not finish the drive. CMR’s glory days were also with him calling the plays. CWM can not take all the blame with the kick offs giving bad field position and the offense killing drives early by going for the long pass.

dawg68

April 21st, 2009
10:33 am

Hey ramble-on, I guess you can laugh once every 8 years. As a matter of fact, I’m still laughing at your performance in the Chicken Bowl. As a dawg fan I felt sorry for all you “trade schooler’s” that night, my sorrow lasted 2 seconds and then I began my laughter. I predict you will lose 4 games next year, other schools will be ready for your D-II offense including and especially UGA.

See you in Nov, UGA will begin another long run of “trade school” beatdowns.

Alphare

April 21st, 2009
10:33 am

Just keep it close year after year, luck eventually will come to your way. If Georgia can repeat in the future 8 years what they did in the the past 8 years, Georgia will be national Champ exaxtly twice. That’s because 3 SEC champs will generate 2 national Champs for you.

Just keep it close my friends.

BULLDAWG FEMALE GRAD

April 21st, 2009
10:36 am

FOR ALL WHO IS CAUGHT UP IN THE ALL CAPS MEANS SCREEAMING/YELLING. THAT IS WHAT MIKE BOBO NEEDS, TO BE SCREAMED & YELLED AT BY THE HEAD COACH TELLING HIM TO GO TO STARKVILLE WITH CROOM’S KIDS, WINNING 10 GAMES AT MSU IS ACCEPTABLE, WINNING 10 AT UGA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE WITHOUT THE BIG ONE.

bama12titles

April 21st, 2009
10:36 am

Mikey,

You’re just like JB. I see you’re still hoping that Saban bolts Bama for Notre Dame. Seems people like you and JB have been saying for 3 years now that Saban will be gone any day now. I saw where Saban committed to giving 1 million to the scholarship fund at Bama over the next 10 years. Doesn’t sound like someone who is leaving anytime soon does it? Keep hoping buddy. Very sad that people like you just have to sit there and hope for a rival coach to eventually leave or retire. I can’t imagine how many of you probably are just writing off beating UF until Tebow leaves or until Meyer leaves, etc. Sad indeed.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
10:38 am

I would agree with Alphare. I think the SEC has grown it’s stature to where the SEC champion is going to play for the NC probably 80% of the time. Just win the SEC on a regular basis and we are bound to get into a NC game and hopefully win it. It took Dooley about 18 years to get to the top echelon. Richt will get us there if people would just let him run his program.

murfdawg

April 21st, 2009
10:40 am

After 60 years of football futility, the gators finally got it going in the 90s.They had teams in the 60s and 80s that were good, ranked #1 before the Georgia game, but lost and did not compete for the MNC. Unfortunately, on this blog there are not any gators who acknowledge that fla played football before SOS. These things run in cycles and I know it will be hard to believe, but things will change at fla. Just look at the history of Bama, OKLA, Texas, ND. Enjoy while you can gators.

ps. There was a time when the University of the South had more SEC championships than the mighty gators!

Lee Dawg

April 21st, 2009
10:42 am

The Dawgs have the same talent as LSU and Florida. If the Dawgs just keep on getting after it and win consistently then eventually everything will go their way. They have to put themselves in position for that by winning the conference then the rest is up to who else wins or loses their conference. Even as a Dawg fan I think Auburn got screwed! Undefeated in the SEC?? We all know how hard that is to do.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
10:42 am

Saban is not going anywhere and I really don’t get why UGA fans worry about Saban. Saban did not rule Georgia when he was the coach at LSU. He runs a solid program that competes at the top of the heep, jsut like Richt does. I wish him and the Bamers luck except when playing UGA.

Buz

April 21st, 2009
10:42 am

Talk to Coach Richt’s players and their parents…he develops great players…more immportantly, he develops great men. I hope he retires in Athens many years down the road.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
10:43 am

Dean if you knew your history Vince came very close to being fired as well. I agree some great coaches took a while to win it all Bobby Bowden, JoePa, Tom Osborne etc but times have changed. CMR is very close to winning a title if he can just make a few adjustments.

SSI gator

April 21st, 2009
10:45 am

bama12 -

What else can they do but hope that other coaches and players leave? They have a coach that is not willing to fix what is broken with his staff. You are correct – sad indeed.

Stats Lie

April 21st, 2009
10:45 am

Richt padded his stats in the first few years of being at UGA. FL was down (the Zooker), BAMA was down, LSU was down, even Tenn was down then. Aub, please, Tech beat them twice and they weren’t any good either.The first 2 or 3 years for Richt were a cake walk. Now these teams have good coaches again and Richt is getting beat. He’s trying to run his team like Saint Bobby, but he’s never been the coach Bobby was.

Nachos

April 21st, 2009
10:47 am

Saban aint going nowhere… where would he go? Get over the blackout, its ancient history !

Gen Neyland

April 21st, 2009
10:50 am

Nothing is forever. I remember 9 straight came to an end because of CMR…Yeah, nothing is forever and nothing looks so good as the here and now to some programs. Shoot, even the Braves won their division 100 times but only got one World Series ring to show for it all…

Otto

April 21st, 2009
10:52 am

LSU was down didn’t Saban win a national title? Auburn was as competitive as anyone

DawginLex

April 21st, 2009
10:52 am

The league is loaded with talent and great coaching. 80+ wins in 8 years is a great accomplishment. It takes breaks to get in the BCS title game since no one goes undefeated in college FB anymore because of the scholarship reduction. To maintain any level of consistency takes great players and coaching.

To say Richt hasn’t done that is just a complete lie. Plus he has character and won’t point to the opponent stands after a win.

crs

April 21st, 2009
10:54 am

Some of you are a trip, trying to judge the red zone offense in a spring game, you can’t be serious, but you probably are, and that makes you an idiot!

Tony Barnhart

April 21st, 2009
10:54 am

Bill,

The link to the Nashville station is http://www.1045thezone.com. I’m on with former Tennessee assistant coach Doug Mathews on Wednesdays at 3 p.m. for an hour and Saturday’s at 10:10 a.m. for about 50 minutes.

Thanks for asking.

TB

DawginLex

April 21st, 2009
10:55 am

M’s UGA obsession continues as evidenced by being the first person to comment on a blog about Coach Richt.

FloridaDawg

April 21st, 2009
10:56 am

Tony your research is accurate but as far a saying Richt is one of the 7 coaches that has won over 80 games in his first 8 years of coaching is using statistics to “fit” your point.
There are “more” games being played in recent history than years ago, so if might be more appropriate to say “in recent history” or a least placing an asterisk on that fact.
We must beat Florida…Must.
If we do, everything else will fall in to place.

Erk

April 21st, 2009
10:59 am

Stats Lie, LSU was down Richt’s first few years? Really? Did LSU not win a national championship in ‘03? You’re right, your stats do lie. Also, Richt has had much more success at this early point in his head coaching career than Bobby Bowden. Do at least a little research.

GeoffDawg

April 21st, 2009
10:59 am

The Truth About the AJC – thanks for the link. I just sent an email to Ms. Wallace giving my thoughts on the value of keeping contributors like Chip and Tony posting regularly on this site. I prefer to get my “hard” news from other venues and stated that if it weren’t for the quality coverage of college athletics that I receive here, I would likely taper off my visits significantly.

bama12titles

April 21st, 2009
11:00 am

SSI gator,

Agreed. For anyone who is just waiting for Tebow to leave I saw Brantley play. Very impressive but then again this kid was a top caliber talent coming out of high school to begin with so no one should be surprised. Rather than hoping and waiting for someone’s coach to leave I think most people should just concentrate on what their program can do to get better rather than just whining about someone else’s program. BTW, my Florida friend tells me that Tebow will be gone before the season. He said Tim is scheduled to ascend into heaven sometime in the next couple months.

Atlanta Gator

April 21st, 2009
11:00 am

murfdawg—-We acknowledge that the Gators played football before 1990, but, more often than not it was an exercise in frustration. In the Gators’ best seasons before 1990, they could not beat Auburn, UGA and LSU in the same year, and often those games were played back to back.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
11:01 am

CRS one bad showing for the red zone offense in the spring game does not make a case but the last time the red zone offense ws good CMR was calling the shots.

Moses

April 21st, 2009
11:03 am

It’s not where you have been but where you are going. UGA is going DOWN.
LSU is back, Florida is there already, Tennessee is coming back as well as Alabama. Arkansas is coming back. Tech is coming back 45-42. UGA has no where to go but down. Richt has no ability to motivate without gimmicks and gimmicks backfired (Blackout).

Mikey

April 21st, 2009
11:03 am

I don’t really care if Satan leaves or not. Just letting the other blogger know I wouldnt trade Richt for him or urban cryer.
Having said that, he will leave within a couple more years..it’s his Standard Operating Procedure..
And I dont hate him- I think he is a great Head Coach.

Alphare

April 21st, 2009
11:03 am

But it will be harder for Georgia to keep it close in the SEC in the future 8 years. I don’t see Florida going anywhere but being on top for the near future. Even if you pass Florida, you have to beat Bama/LSU to reach the national Champ. Talent wide, FL/GA/Bama/LSU are on the same level, so you are 1 of 4. Then you add Auburn/Tenn in the mix, you become 1 of 5. 1 of 5 in 8 years give you 1.8 chances to be a SEC champ. But Georgia is a weaker of the 4. So Georgia has only 1 chance to be a SEC champ, which leads to 0.8 chance of national Champ in the next 8 years. Let’s see if Georgia can turn that 0.8 to a whole ONE.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
11:09 am

Mikey, where will Saban go? He will not be in the NFL. Bama can write as big of a check as anyone. The Bammers will love him and build up his ego as long as he wins. I cheer for Auburn against Bama but Bama will be a great team in the coming years and Saban will be their coach.

Wally Butts

April 21st, 2009
11:12 am

IF, IF, IF, LUCK, LUCK, LUCK. Wjhat other excuse are the Leg Humopers going to come up with.

IF Pigs could fly maybe UF doesn’t win 17 of 20 against Georgia. No ifs, ands, buts, or LUCK regarding that STAT.

Nice chart, but that includes the 3 years when Zook was at Florida. By the way, the Zooker went 2-1 against the mighty Richt.

You create your own luck. If the Gators don’t beat the Leg Humpers in 2006 and 2008 and all the other teams they beat, then they don’t jump anyone the last weekend. In both years they proved in the National Championship game that they belonged there. The Leg Humpers can’t even beat West Virginia.

So make all the excuses you want for Mark Richt. Until he can beat Florida on a consistent basis, he is going to be the 2nd or 3rd best in the SEC East. He barely got by Zook one year, and then beat Florida when they were rebuilding their defense. Florida isn’t going to ever have to rebuild again, they are just going to reload every year. John Brantley showed last Saturday what life after Tebow will look like and it doesn’t look good for the Leg Humpers.

Wally Butts

April 21st, 2009
11:14 am

Murfdawg, in fact, the Gators own the series against the Leg Humpers since 1950, and that includes the Dooley years. Go celebrate all those wins in the 20.s and 30.s when Hoover was president.

Vol4ever

April 21st, 2009
11:16 am

Mark Richt is a good coach who runs a good program. The problem for the SEC the past few years is Tim Tebow, he is a player above the rest. The SEC east is tough period. It will be interesting to see what happens when Tebow is no longer around. Give Forida their due they are simply the best team in the country. Alabama is loaded again this year, Georgia will be very good, LSU is there. We have made a change at Tennessee but I think it will better for the Vols in the future. As for GA Tech, your conference comes up way short to the SEC, and I would be worried about the game with Georgia this year if I were you.

Wonderful

April 21st, 2009
11:17 am

Tide rising – excellent post. You said it all.

Moorebuilder

April 21st, 2009
11:19 am

Coach Richt is an absolute class act. Georgia football now enjoys national prominence in part because of his work. A BCS title would be nice, but the overall character traits exhibited by this gentleman are much more valuable than a crystal football.

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2009
11:19 am

Remember when it use to be fun to follow college football and pull for your own team?

whitx2

April 21st, 2009
11:20 am

Smokey

Are those energized fans going to be on the feild taking hits that Bama, UGA and UF are going to put on you guys? It’s going to take alot of 76 yard FG’s to win games in the SEC.

TT44

April 21st, 2009
11:24 am

Yep, TB your are right, go back two seasons, the Dawgs have had no real luck with the BCS. Case and point Dawgs get to play Hawaii…and should have had an opportunity to play for the title. But, I firmly believe CMR will get it done @ UGA! He already is……listen, I hate loosing to F and Gtech too, but, as TB said a good D end or two would really make a difference on our past defenses. Time will Tell!

navairmike

April 21st, 2009
11:24 am

Speaking of needing luck and good fortune to win a national championship – apparantly no one remembers the string of amazing circumstances that took place during the 1980 season to get Georgia into the National Championship game. Georgia needed that year’s Heisman winning running back (George Rogers/SC) to fumble towards the end of a potential game winning drive. Georgia needed an incredible field goal to beat Clemson. Georgia needed the famous “Lindsey Scott-Lindsey Scott” play to beat Florida. Georgia Tech (of all schools) needed to tie Notre Dame towards the end of the season to put Georgia into the national championship game. Then, in the national championship game, Notre Dame needed to not field a kick-off, which Georgia recovered on Notre Dame’s 2 yard line. Tony’s absolute correct. You can have all the coaches and players you need, but you will also need some luck and good fortune.

north avenue

April 21st, 2009
11:24 am

Tech fan here, but I must say I am also respectful of your coach, CMR. He seems like an intelligent, honest, and good person. You should feel lucky you found him, though I will root against you in November!

Dean

April 21st, 2009
11:27 am

One dissapointing season and Georgia is down? After last year Florida was on the way down, heck, after the Ole Miss loss they were really worried about UF. Look where things are now. Florida is fine, Georiga is fine and not one of you can predict the future. You can try but you really can’t.

GeoffDawg

April 21st, 2009
11:33 am

Quite frankly, you know your program is in very good shape when a ten win season is labeled as a “disappointment”.

Bamafan

April 21st, 2009
11:37 am

Tony, I listen to the radio show in Nashville all the time. Coach Matthews has a good program and love to listen to you during the year. Coach Mark Richt is a wonderful football coach and yet better
human being. I would take him in a new york minute if Saban retires any time soon and goes to another school. The SEC has 3 of the best football coaches in America including Saban,Meyer and
Mark Richt. One question Tony have you been to any Stroud’s in Nashville yet? GO BAMA ROLL
TIDE!!

Wonderful

April 21st, 2009
11:39 am

GeoffDawg – Not when you are a preseason # 1. FL and AL took us to the woodshed. We barely squeeked by Auburn and Kentucky. Losing to Tech did not help either.

SuwaneeGator

April 21st, 2009
11:41 am

Jeff at 10:25 – Georgia has an 8 game lead all time, 46-38-2. Of course, even though Florida didn’t field it’s first official team until 1906, Georgia continues to try and count a 1904 game played against a bunch of frat boys. If the next decade goes like either of last two, that lead will be gone.

Halsey

April 21st, 2009
11:41 am

Just remember that UGA only had 1 loss on 2002. Every year Florida and LSU got into the title game they had at least 1 loss. UGA just happened to have 1 loss the year Ohio State and Miami finished their Big 10 and Big East schedules undefeated.

Cuz

April 21st, 2009
11:43 am

Hey Altamaha, remember when a ten win season was a reason for a parade or at least a big party on South Milledge?

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2009
11:43 am

The problem I have with the “missed his opportunity” argument is that you assume that the Georgia program has somehow maxed out. We tend to forget its not just Richt’s first 8 yrs at UGA, its his first 8 year ever as HC. Of all the program on the rise, how would you discount Georgia’s room to improve. A guy isn’t going to improve his coaching skills or program after 9,10,11 years? Every coach mentioned in here today IS GOING TO LOSE one out of every 5 games they coach. It’s a historical given. It’s all a matter of who has the timing, who has that one extra win. Every coach in the SEC is going to have years where the pieces are only good enough for a “disapointing” 10 win season. And that will probbaly require a better coaching job by them to do it in that year, as it took to win 13 when it all fell into place.

GeoffDawg

April 21st, 2009
11:49 am

Wonderful – Georgia couldn’t do anything regarding the hype leading into 2008 and overall, there were a lot of positives that came out of last season. For one – we found out that we have one of the top offensive line coaches in the nation and because of all the injuries, we developed a lot of depth. Yes, I agree with you though that overall, last year was a disappointment but that’s my point – you know you’re building something pretty significant when 10-3 is disappointing.

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2009
11:53 am

I remember when Thursday was a good enough excuse to party on S. Milledge.

Thats the difference Cuz. Some us of have more than a 3 yr perspective.

And for those actually worried and hung up on that #1 preseason ranking…I asked this question several times with neer a responce: IF we had submitted the roster of who we were going to have actually playing, (or more to the point, who was not going to be playing) to the voters back in August, where do you think they would have ranked that actual team of players? #1? top 10 maybe?

DawgMan

April 21st, 2009
11:55 am

Richt needs to start winning big games, and get a BCS title—losing to Florida almost every year, or choking in other games is getting old. If he’s not getting it done and moving to the top, time to bring in a big time coach who can win it all. I’m tired of Florida winning all these titles. They will probably win another this year, making it 3 of 4. Ga hasn’t won since 1980. A big problem is Michael Adams–he doesn’t give the coaches the resources needed to out recruit Florida and hire the best assistants. I’m hoping he hits the road as soon as possible.

swgaboy

April 21st, 2009
11:55 am

I guess a lot of GT fans have forgotten about Tyrone Sorrells? John Dewberry wasn’t the only UGA to GT transfer in the early 80’s.

Not to mention Stephon Marbury who says that he was allowed to play despite the fact that he never attended a single class the entire winter semester.

Or Eddie Lee Ivory whom a disgruntled former GT employee said he did his work for.

Or about two football players in 1989 that were allowed to play after having been charged and convicted of assault when they slapped a 120 lbs woman?

Lots of room to talk nerds.

Lord of the Lizards

April 21st, 2009
11:56 am

Tony, I absolutely agree that it takes EVERYTHING, including luck, to win a NC. I can’t think of ANY team that won it all that didn’t have at least some good karma. Remember the Tennessee team of ‘98?? They had several games, including Arkansas, where one less fortunate bounce of the ball could have made the difference. That ‘96 dominating Gator team with all of those offensive stars?? It took some very unlikely bowl game results on New Years day for them to have the opportunity to redeem themselves against FSU and grab the title! Unfortunately, Auburn was at the opposite end of that a few years ago. Right now, Florida has everything in place to continue a dominating run, but a few key untimely injuries or suspensions and all bets are off!

Eric

April 21st, 2009
11:57 am

Richt is a good coach, that’s undeniable. But he’s no saint. Sanithood and hypocrisy are incompatable. He produces as many great gangsters as he does great men…..probably more.

bulldogsux

April 21st, 2009
11:59 am

WallyButts…actually, the Gators own the record vs. UGA since 1930. If you were born before then, the mutts have a winning record against the Gators in your lifetime. LMAO

And yes, there was football before the HBC. The Gators won 65% of the UF-mutt games in the 50’s and 60’s. The mutts won 80% before 1950 and 70% in the 70’s and 80’s. “We have the all-time series versus the Gators” and acting like the mutts owned the Gators before the HBC is pure ignorance.

Thanks always to the HBC…and to the mutt-geniuses who danced on the field a couple of years ago…that ensured that the Urbanator hates the mutts as much as the HBC, very bad news for GA.

bama12titles

April 21st, 2009
11:59 am

AltamahaDawg,

Good point! Every one has their up and down seasons and every good coach will have their hot and cold streaks. I think the point made by my brethren is that for the foreseeable future UGA is going to be dominated by UF. Whether that happens or not is debatable. But if it does happen, if UF wins that game for the next 2-3 straight years which is entirely possible then one has to wonder if Richt isn’t gone. Having some of the other teams rising up as Bama and Tech and as Auburn and UT definitely will be back just makes it tougher on the dawgs. Like it or not I think Tech is going to be a thorn in UGAs side. And by that I mean that if they only win 30-40% of the time against UGA what if one of those wins comes in a year where UGA otherwise would have been in position to get into the national title game if it weren’t for that extra loss? Just some interesting things to ponder.

dawggirl

April 21st, 2009
12:03 pm

I’m not worried yet. Is there room for improvement? Of course. I already feel though, as CMR has said, that there is more of a team feeling than last year. Just the fact of having Jeff Owens and Trinton Sturdivant returning gets me energized.

Florida will need to be perfect every game and every play, they’re so hyped. They should be winning games by an average of 30-35 points, especially with what I’ve heard about their schedule strength.

I look forward to every year with the promise of “Any Given Saturday”. Lest we forget the mass confusion of 2007 and Upsets Galore (App State vs. Michigan, etc.)

EW

April 21st, 2009
12:04 pm

TB- Great article. I feel bad for CMR when fellow UGA fans get on his case for not winning the big one. The fact is that UF and LSU were great in their championship seasons but, as you said, caught breaks from other teams that helped get them to the big game. UGA has put themselves in a position to play for SEC titles, BCS bowls, and will eventually have that opportunity to play in the BIG one. UGA fans need to applaud CMR’s success and realize that we are in the running EVERY year because of CMR, not in spite of him.

EW

April 21st, 2009
12:11 pm

one other thing, Tech fans better prepare for everybody on their offense to get hit in the mouth when the dogs come to the flats. we may have underestimated Paul Johnson’s juvenile offense last year but you better believe that willie will have the D fired up for Tech this year. NERDS BEWARE, THE BOYS FROM ATHENS WILL BEAT TECH IN WHAT WILL BE TECHS LAST GAME OF THE SEASON. NO BOWL, NO POSTSEASON, JUST A LONG OFFSEASON TO THINK ABOUT ALL THAT SMACK YOU WONT BE ABLE TO TALK NEXT YEAR.

CurlyHeadedDevil

April 21st, 2009
12:13 pm

TT44, two years ago when UGA played Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl, UGA got stomped by UT in Knoxville and needed a last second field goal to beat Vandy…….yes, VANDY, to even get to the Sugar Bowl. The dogs were playing well by the Sugar Bowl game and while I am an SEC fan, I believe USC(W)would have kicked your arses in the Rose Bowl.

And if memory serves me correctly, one of the years UGA got to the SEC CG, they tied with UT and/or UF and got in the game because it had been longer since they had played in the game. Can you clarify for us on that last statement?

There is no National Championship in College Football

April 21st, 2009
12:16 pm

47-38-4 vs Florida, 59-38-4 vs Georgia Tech. The only thing Tech and Florida “own” are losing records to Georgia. Both love to focus on the era’s in which they’ve had the upper hand, as would be expected.

Here is the bottom line. Georgia is, for all intents & purposes, the “only game in town” in a state that is one of the four largest producers of current NFL players and members of D1A rosters. Georgia is the 9th most populated state in the country. Georgia has the second largest alumni base in the southeast, behind only Florida. Those two athletic programs have access to more capital than any other programs in the southeast and most out of the southeast. Georgia has brought in top 10 recruiting classes EVERY year for the past 10. Georgia’s atheletic department is consistently one of the most profitable in Amercia, THE most profitable at some points. NOT winning 10 games at Georgia should be an anomily. Georgia is the only reason Georgia hasn’t won the falsified beauty pagent MNC.

The recipe for success at UGA has always been about defense and running the ball. There are more UGA defensive players in the NFL than any other school right now. When that becomes the focus at UGA again, we won’t be having this discussion.

DAWGLB

April 21st, 2009
12:18 pm

Corrine some one needs to teach you “Lizards” how to spell!! I love the “Honey Suckers” comments. They win one game in 8 years and the think they are world beaters!! Rock on Mark Richt.. Gooooooooo.. Dawgs!!!

Maybe Next Year

April 21st, 2009
12:19 pm

I love how UGA fans cling to the hope that Meyer leaves for Notre Dame. Does that speak more to the effect Meyer has or what?

Tony Barnhart

April 21st, 2009
12:24 pm

Bamafan,

I have not had a chance to go to Nashville and enjoy Mr. Stroud’s barbeque. But I hear it’s good.

TB

longtimesecfan

April 21st, 2009
12:27 pm

as many butt sniffers keep saying, “what goes around comes
around” is true. LSU, UF, USC, and others all have their
down(read: rebuilding) years. Inevitable in college. The
mark of a champion is, when you have your “goes around”
years, you take it all the way, or do you stumble and fall
and make excuses (injuries, bad refs, bad luck, etc.)
Question for dogs is, did you have your “goes around”
years before (2 sec titles?) or is it yet to come.
If you have to wait for Saban and Meyer to retire or trfr.
you better be young and not like some of us.

Dawg Fud

April 21st, 2009
12:27 pm

i don’t give a darn about stats. stats are for people trying to make themselves feel better. i want a national championship trophy.

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2009
12:27 pm

Well, first of all, you have no idea IF UF is going to dominate anyone. You righfully think they will be very good, but you really don’t know exactly how thier freshman are going to play 2/3 years from now. As we have all seen, that can come down to a handfull of players panning out either way. I think they “can” win a few more in a row, I dont think its a given. Even so, I dont think that losing to a “dominating everyone” UF would cost Richt his job.

As far as other teams making it more difficult….same ol, same ol…..that just another year in the SEC. Assuming those get better, which is just pure specualtion, and no others have off years to offset that,which is likely, IF UGA also raises thier level, then beating (whoever) only puts them in a better position.

I have a lot more faith in Richt figuring out that last couple of things that kept him from winning even more Championships already, than I do in somebody got a new face.

There is no National Championship in College Football

April 21st, 2009
12:36 pm

ahhhhhhh the old since 1930 or 1940 or 1950 or 1990 argument from some Gator Fans. Clearly games that were played in in 1955 are more relevant than games played in 1925? That’s a very logical conclusion……please. UGA & UF have suited up and played each other around 90 times, and Georgia has won more often than not. That’s a Fact.

What’s glossed over is that Florida has NEVER had an undefeated season in 100+ years of football. Florida has won almost 100 fewer games and 50% fewer conference championships than UGA, you know those things that are actually won on the field and/or awarded by their sanctioning entity.

I’m not ripping on UF, I went to both schools. But some of you guys need some perspective.

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
12:36 pm

I think Mark Richt is a good coach despite not seeming to be able to get over the hump and play for a NC.Mark Richt is probably the most consistent coach in the SEC and despite all the jabs at him from rival fans them rival fans know when they play Georgia they better be ready.Yes I’m a Bama fan through and through ROLL TIDE! but if Bama can’t do well I usually hope Georgia can especially when they play Auburn and Tennessee.This is not why I say Richt is a good coach though I really mean it.I think Georgia fans would make a mistake if they got rid of Richt look what Auburn and Tennessee did(mainly because of Bama).It could happen to Dawg fans if you are not careful.

Reebok

April 21st, 2009
12:36 pm

First, I will state straight off that I am a Tech fan, so all the Dogs on the blog can feel free to dismiss everything I say as crap and call me names. Whatever. But I’m also a true college football fan who respects the game, the traditions, other programs and fans of all stripes. I don’t much care one way or the other how UGA’s foorball team does except for one particular Saturday in November. So take this for what it’s worth…Georgia is a VERY talented football team…the Dogs have stud players and depth that most programs can only dream of. The problem is, the Dogs are surrounded by teams just about as talented (Florida, LSU and Alabama, to name 3) but that are better-coached and more disciplined. The road to the SEC Championship game goes through Gainesville (OK, technically it goes through Jacksonville, but you know what I’m saying). I just don’t see Georgia beating the Gators, nor do I see Florida losing twice in-conference to give UGA an opening. Georgia plays a very tough schedule this year, and I think they are looking at 9-3 and a pretty good bowl game…not because Florida, LSU, Bama nad some others are more talented (they are not) but because they are better coached on both sides of the ball. IMHO as always…see you at the Flats in November.

Paul Houghton

April 21st, 2009
12:40 pm

Hey “m.” I guess you’re too young to remember that UGA had a PRIOR 7 year winning streak against Tech in the 90’s. UGA is 14-4 against the Nerds since 1990. Get a clue.

Huh?

April 21st, 2009
12:40 pm

Urban Meyer, who happens to be an excellent coach that I have alot of respect for, is a very mediocre 8-6 vs. SEC West opponents. Take out Arkansas and Mississippi State and he’s only 5-6. Yes haters, the same coach that you say will dominate the SEC and Georgia for all of freaking eternity is barely cracking .500 against the SEC West. See, you can cherry pick stats all you like to make ANY coach in the SEC look bad. Its not that hard. Its a very difficult conference. Even the best coaches in the league such as Urban Meyer are doing good to go 50-50 against the other great teams in the conference. Richt’s record against Florida is undoubtedly bad but it doesn’t tell the whole story about what he’s done at Georgia.

Tony in Johns Creek

April 21st, 2009
12:45 pm

Hi Tony,
You ARE missing a necessary point in your argument for Georgia not being lucky enough to get a ring… Yes, AU wasn’t lucky enough.. and your general point is good, but you needed to add the specific 2002 UGA season, when we were 12-1 and SEC champs and were hoping the outcome of the Michigan-Ohio State game were to fall our way to help get us into a probable Mythical National Championship game against Miami that year, rather than the Buckeyes. Which was Richt’s second season. We beat Arkansas like a drum that day …the game was over in the first quarter… we could’ve competed against anyone in the country that year…

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2009
12:45 pm

That was 03′ and the reason UGA got in the game was that it was a higher ranked, not “been longer”. I think you also had to have beat the next lower ranked, in the tie.

Is it your contention that every SEC or for that matter MNC team doesnt have a list of close if not flukish play against lesser team, yes lesser teams, to get there.

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2009
12:49 pm

Reebok, the recent records head to head against LSU and Alabama notwithstanding, right?

whitx2

April 21st, 2009
12:51 pm

If you don’t think luck plays a part in who plays for a NC, just ask les miles at lsu.

GradyGrad96

April 21st, 2009
12:58 pm

Brian VanGorder is missing from UGA football.

crs

April 21st, 2009
1:01 pm

Lets play two or three real games before we try to make any real determinations about red zone offense or anything else concerning the 2009 team.

Oklahoma State will be a good test to start the year and will hopefully make a few more kids in Oklahoma and Texas want to head this way.

I would love to see Damon get a deal with USC for a home and home.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
1:01 pm

Just which big time coach is Georgia going to get if they were to fire Richt. Perhaps someone who wins a vast majority of games and has his team in the top nationally every year. One who wins SEC titles and goes to BCS games on a regular basis. So, if your only looking a BCS titles are you going to get either Saban, Les Miles, Meyer, or Pete Caroll?

Steve

April 21st, 2009
1:03 pm

Gawd now the crybaby uga fans are saying it’s luck to win a nc. give me a break. if any team is lucky, it’s uga. how many late game breaks has ugay received over the years. several. just like a poor liberal saying they are where they are because they just aren;t lucky. has nothing to do with WORK and WINNING. how about beating florida crybabies.

crs

April 21st, 2009
1:09 pm

BVG is gone and has been gone for years, hes not returning, let it go. He did a nice job but he had much stronger d lines, when Willie had a d-line in 2007 we finished #2 in the country.

Gator Growl

April 21st, 2009
1:12 pm

Great article Tony! There’s nothing wrong with the program at Georgia overall. I think Richt has done a good job there and seems to have a favorable record against everyone with the exception of the biggest rival-Florida. And there, for UGA fans, lies the rub. Every year, you know the question up is gonna be…are you gonna beat Florida??? (I heard this quite a bit down here when V.D. was the Georgia coach). Since Florida is now the Gold standard, lets compare the programs…1)HISTORY AND TRADITION…Georgia gets the edge here, as Floridas success has primarily come over the last 20-25 years. Georgia has a much longer and storied tradition. 2)FACILITIES…Both have great stadiums/facilities and whether you’re talking “between the hedges” or the “Swamp”, both are renowned nationally. EVEN. 3)RECRUITING…again pretty even here, both Florida and Georgia are fertile grounds with both teams recruiting the other state aggressively. 4) FANS AND GAME ATMOSPHERE…again, very close here with maybe a very slight edge to Florida 5)ATHLETIC ADMINISTRATION AND AD…This is where there is significant seperation…Jeremy Foley (as well as Steve Spurrier) are most responsible for Floridas foundation and its present day “elite” status. He started at the very bottom years ago, working in UFs ticket office and has become the best and most powerful AD in the conference and probably in the nation. Hired Billy Donovan and Urban Meyer who BOTH have won TWO NCs. Floridas facilities have become top flight under his term. He is the foundation of all things athletic at Florida last 20 years. Florida wins SEC Athletic Cup trophy for overall top progam almost every year. 6)COACHING AND SUPPORT STAFF…Urban Meyer has proven himself the best every place he has been. When Foley first met to interview him, he said he saw the presence, the “it” factor, right away. The presence that Foley saw that day, but wouldn’t say, was the presence of a Dynasty. He knew he finally had his man, the man that could and would take Florida to his vision, to where it is today. And here is where the biggest difference lies…Mark Richt I think will go down in Georgia history as one of its most accomplished and outstanding coaches. Urban Meyer will go down as legendary.

Gatorzone

April 21st, 2009
1:17 pm

Luck definitely plays a part, but you have to be in the position to capitalize when it befalls you. UGA could have been there in 07, had they not went to Tennessee and got blown out. You can lose fluke games by close scores, but not get blown out. Championship teams do not get embarrassed anytime during the season. It seems that coach richt (whom I like and consider a fine man) has a lapse every season. Whether it is 4th and 1 against auburn, losing to Vandy, getting blown out by UT, or not showing up against Alabama last year. If he could stop these from happening, he would be there.
Watching some of the players expressions and reactions on the sidelines, sometimes makes me wonder how much their heart was really in it. Anyone else see Stafford laughing on the sideline during a loss? Or how could a blacked out night game agains UA be so one sided? Same with UT in 07. Completely overwhelmed from the start and appeared to give up.
Thoughts?

Big Dawg

April 21st, 2009
1:23 pm

Good article Tony,

The numbers tell a story of a very successful coach and I will tell all of you football fans on this blog there is no such thing as luck. You are either fortunate that things went your way or are unfortunate. Great teams/players make things go their way as in the case of the Florida Gators last year, LSU in 2003, Tenn in 1998, AL in 1992 and GA in 1980. Being fortunate is what happened with LSU in 2007, FL in 2006 etc. and being unfortunate is what happened to Auburn in 2004.

Now to answer a question what has been missing the last 8 years at UGA under Coach Richt? IMHO it has been that Coach Richt has been learning to be a head coach as he goes along and as such has made mistakes along the way which has cost the dawgs in crucial situations each and every year. For example in the 2001 Auburn game with the clock running out with the Dawgs sitting on the 1 or 2 yard line and not getting a play off. 2002 in the Florida game losing 20-13 largely due to poor play calling on his part. Last year because of the injury situation they stopped hitting and practicing aggressively which cost them in the Alabama, Florida and GT games as the team wasn’t prepared to play 4 quarters of football. Hopefully Coach Richt has learned from his mistakes and we will see a better and more prepared team this year and in coming years. I personally believe the Dawgs are going to shock a lot of people this year by being a complete team and getting back to basics- hard nosed defense, good special teams and a good ground game to go along with a consistent passing attack. Will this equate in winning the SEC only God knows that for sure but I like our chances.

Go Dawgs

Casual Observer

April 21st, 2009
1:25 pm

I just love all these stats and the number crunchers obsessing over them. In a nutshell the bottom line is the only column that matters is the last one.

BLAZER

April 21st, 2009
1:27 pm

49-10 was a whipping! 45-42 was a W!!!!

Gatorzone

April 21st, 2009
1:28 pm

Bigdawg, good point. I agree completely

Johnny Musso

April 21st, 2009
1:31 pm

Hey Tide Rising…I guess you think that the Tide is here to stay atop the SEC west…think again…Do you really think that LSU is going away? how about Ole Miss and Auburn and Arkansas…do you really think that you are going to dominate the football world every year because of Saban? LOL…LOL….Do think that when you play Georgia or Tennessee or Florida in the future you are always going to win cause you are almighty Bama….Where have you been the last 10-12 years? Eight in a row to Auburn..and all of a sudden you want everyone to think that was just a dream….I guess you want the rest of the SEC to pretend that your bowl loss to Utah was a dream…..more like a nightmare!Where was Saban during that game with all those stud athletes you recruited.After watching you spring game oin TV last nigt I predict at least 3-4 losses for Bama this year….let the excuses begin!

DawginLex

April 21st, 2009
1:31 pm

Blazer,

45-42 was a fluke

51-7 was a beatdown

Huh?

April 21st, 2009
1:33 pm

Big Dawg, go look up the word “fortunate” in the dictionary and then get back to us big guy. Wow.

Keeping it Real with The Observer

April 21st, 2009
1:33 pm

Mr. Barnhart,

You have did it again. As an observer to this hilarious article, here are some additional facts that should be noted. Mark Richt will be one of the few coaches in the SEC to be with one team as long as he has and no National Championship. UGA got all of the 2008 preseason hype/love from the media. LSU has won a title with two coaches this decade. Florida has won two titles with one coach who have not had the same tenure as Coach Richt. With the 2009 season coming up and the potential land mines on UGA schedule, there will be something missing. Possibly a SEC/Nat’l Championship, Assistant Coach or even, I hate to say it, Head Coach. WE all like the good guy (Mark Richt) but lets face it, we’re talking the Big Business of Football. You know, the sport where if the nice guy does not produce a National Title he gets canned. (FANS WANTS BRAGGING RIGHTS)…. Now with that said, lets KEEP IT REAL.

chump Change

April 21st, 2009
1:36 pm

Florida and Tech will own GA for years to come.Reason Meyer and Johnson.So get used to it JB.And that comment about winning every time ga takes the field i believe FL GT LSU Auburn will have something to say about that.

Johnny DangerDawg

April 21st, 2009
1:37 pm

Great article, Tony. Great chart. I agree that Florida is really forcing everyone to step up. As we have seen with Southern Cal, “unbeatable” programs can be beaten every year but can nevertheless dominate their conference.

murfdawg

April 21st, 2009
1:39 pm

Atlanta Gator,
thanks for the acknowledgement. Somehow Dooley used to be able to “tweek” the schedule to get an off week before fla or at least some little sisters of the poor. Now with the added SEC game, it is difficult to do. To a lot of my tailgating buddies, the season is divided into two parts. The first eight warm-up games and the last three wars. That would be fla, AU and GT. I have lived in Atlanta all my adult life, and yes the GT game is big. I can live with 3-9 as long as we win the right three. And it takes a championship team to win those three in three weeks. Enjoy Tebow and your run. It may not happen again. But at least it happened once!

commandodawg

April 21st, 2009
1:41 pm

If you compare these 8 years with any other consecutive 8 year period in the entire history of UGA football these are the best whether you want to count total yearly wins or winning percentage (to account for the lower number of total games in earlier years).

Casual Observer

April 21st, 2009
1:42 pm

Question for the group; With CMR being viewed as the “NICE GUY” does he have the killer instinct needed to get over the hump? In the landscape of CF nowadays does being a nice guy relegate you to having nice winning % and mythical success but no rings?

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
1:46 pm

Johnny Musso,

I think you are overlooking alot about Alabama and what coach Saban has done since he’s been at Bama.Saban took a Bama team that has less talent and depth than Florida,LSU,Georgia,etc and turned Alabama into a very competitive team.Despite having less talent and depth than the top teams in the SEC Bama has played them teams well and none of them teams have dominated Alabama.Sure Bama has lost but not by much since Saban has been at Bama.Excluding Utah no team in the SEC has beat Bma by more than 11 points including LSU(07),Georgia(07 by 3),And the mighty gators in 08 by 11 points and Bama had a chane to win in the SEC champ game it is not like Bama did’nt even have a chance against Florida.Bama was aboyt 11 minutes away from beating Florida.If you are going to beat Bama based on what we’ve seen since Saban has been there you are gonna have to bring your A-game and even then barely win.Go ahead and bring up Utah but realize Andre Smith was out of the game and the O-line was Bama’s strength last year.Take Tebow out of the NC game and see if Florida wins.Bama outscored Utah in the 2nd half without much of an O-line due to great coaching.

Sanford Drive

April 21st, 2009
1:49 pm

Tony,

Nashville resident here. Stroud’s BBQ is just average.

Johnny Musso

April 21st, 2009
1:58 pm

Hey Chump Change….GT beating Georgia every year….LOL..LOL…LOL What are you smoking? Never going to happen….look at all the coaches you’ve brought in over the years….and you still have a losing record against Georgia….when you have to celebrate a three point win by getting rings and talking about it all time…it shows everyone that you can’t handle success….and never will….it also shows everyone what a minor league program you have.I’ll bet you right now that you lose to the Dawgs in your stadium this year by at least 17 points and that there will be more Dawg fans in the stands than tech fans by a two to one margin…nice cracker box stadium you play in! The mere fact that you meantion Tech in the same sentence with Florida,LSU and Auburn shows everyone what an inferiority complex you have.

G8R GRAD

April 21st, 2009
2:02 pm

Good article, TB.

Coach Richt is a fine coach with an enviable record. Considering the difficulty of last year’s schedule, a 10-3 season is, at the very least, commendable – otherwise, it’s amazing. UGA’s time is coming.
TB’s numbers don’t lie – it is only a matter of time ’til UGA returns to SEC and BCS championship contention.

HDYHD!

DawgGirl32

April 21st, 2009
2:03 pm

It will be a cold day in hell when Tech “owns” UGA. Sorry guys, it’s just not going to happen. Be realistic here. Sure, you’ll win a third of your games against the dawgs but to say that Paul Johnson will own GA is just ignorant. I thought Tech fans were smarter than that. Guess not.

I second the point about Mark Richt only being a head coach for 8 years. I think we forget that he wasn’t a head coach before he came here. He’s still learning and I think this year was a tremendous learning experience for him. It sucked going through it but I think we’ll be better off for it.

One more thing: For those of you who think Florida is just going to dominate everyone in the years to come, take a look back at 2007 and see what losing experienced defensive players can do to your team. No one is immune to down years.

swgaboy

April 21st, 2009
2:06 pm

In 2002, UGA was right where Florida was in 2006. The Dawgs were ranked 3rd in the country the week of the SECCG, the same day that VT was playing #1 Miami in the Orange Bowl. The Canes lost a big lead when the Hokies tied them up in the 4th quarter with about 6 minutes to go. But Miami held on to win and set up #1 Miami vs. #2 Ohio St. with #3 UGA on the outside looking in.

Just like 2006 was for Florida when an even unlikelier UCLA upset over USC occurred, all it would’ve taken is a little luck for UGA to get in. That’s what Tony means.

For anyone who thinks that UGA doesn’t work hard and isn’t “coached up,” check how many times Richt’s teams have finished above their preseason ranking and finished higher than the SEC media predicts them to in the spring. More years than not, UGA overachieves by those standards. And that’s not by accident.

Johnny Musso

April 21st, 2009
2:10 pm

Hey Tide4u2c…What about the loss to LA. Monroe?…are we supposed to forget about that? I can understand why you’ve blocked it from your memory.They must of brought thier “A” game that day huh?I would have thought that Saban could have coached them through that loss….isn’t he the second coming of the Bear? Nice fake punt during the SEC Championship game…everyone in the stadium saw it coming but Saban…are you mental? Florida beat you down. Man up admit it!Using your logic about the Bowl loss…I guess because Georgia outscored Bama in their game in the second half with four o-line starters out it was due to Saban’s great coaching…or should that be Richt’s great coaching….get a life go back to your trailer!

Dawg5

April 21st, 2009
2:13 pm

m, you seem to forget that tech used ineligible players in 98-00.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
2:14 pm

Tide4U 11 min. from winning a game means nothing. UGA has been there plenty of times against UF with CMR on the sideline. CMR also has rarely been blown out. UGA only lost to Bama last year by 11.

I do agree the lines will keep you in games and if a few key players can’t go then you’re in trouble. CMR’s first few years the lines were good with some very solid DEs. CMR also won plenty of games without as many 5 star recruits. UGA should have a strong OL but I heard that last year before an unusually large number of injuries hit.

Roll Tide Roll

April 21st, 2009
2:16 pm

10-3 is respectable and will not get Richt fired. If I was Richt though I would be worried if I followed that up with a couple of 8-5 or 7-6 seasons. That is not likely given Richt’s record but with Stafford and Moreno gone and Martinez still there it is at least a possibility. Richt also benefited from UF, UT, GT and Bama being done for so many years early on during his tenure at UGA. Those programs are coming back strong and he has to play most of them every year.

I think it would be great if UGA fired Richt.

Mikey

April 21st, 2009
2:20 pm

Once again, I don’t care if Saban and Meyer go- and go they will.
Write it down and remember it. They will both go.
Meyer to ND and Saban to ___fill in the blank.

I will gladly keep Coach Richt rather than start over.

TheItalianDawg

April 21st, 2009
2:22 pm

well said tony, Richt is a fine coach and he will be at georgia for long time, i dont think there is anybody who would love to win nc more than richt, and it will come, georgia will win it sooner than most people think!!!

J.Hammond-Hammond

April 21st, 2009
2:26 pm

No dog fan, but Richt has my respect. Fans should not be diappoited with a 10 win season. Such is the way of College football, I guess. It seems the dogs lack some heart and appear more me instead of we.

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
2:29 pm

My point was only that even with less talent and depth Bama is a very competitive team.Sure Bama can and has been beat but it is not easy now.I hate excuses you either win or lose but you can still put things in perspective and realize Bama is a much tougher team to beat now.I don’t care how good you are you cannot have injuries or 4-5 players out for a number of games and it not effect your team and chemistry which Bama faced in 07 and Georgia in 08 with injuries.You are so much more prone to upsets with players out.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
2:34 pm

Again, just want to say that I’m a UGA alum and fan and I would not want anyone else but Richt to coach our team. He has done a great job getting us back to the top level of SEC competition. Want an idea of how bad Georgia Tech wants to be like us. Just read the hatred they have for us. That speaks volumes. Some Florida fans have good posts above. They have everything going right now and I don’t expect that to change with Tebow and the defense returning. I also don’t expect UGA to go anywhere. Ebbs and Flows abound with every major college program and our dissapointment is a 10 win season. A lot of fans of other teams despise us and that in itself shows we are relevant and a strong team. The congratualtions for that go to Richt and his staff. Peace to everyone on here but if any of you think that we are ashamed of our coach or our team then you are dead wrong. Go Dawgs- GATA!

Nate

April 21st, 2009
2:35 pm

As a Tech fan, I can honestly say that Mark Richt is a very honorable man and coach. He honestly represents Georgia well and I give him the utmost respect. As for some of my fellow Jackets, can we please stop talking so big about “dominating” anyone. Did we a good season last year?? Yes, of course but let’s keep this realistic, Georgia has every recruiting advantage over us, we just have to do the best with what our academic standards and such demand. And please UT fans, stop stealing our phrase…..

“Don’t forget about my Vols. We will start whuppin y’all just like we normally do. Kiffin has energized the fanbase and is recruiting lights out. Thank God and Greyhound Fulmer is finally gone.”

Alot of talk for a coach who has literally pissed off every other SEC coach and fan and has yet to win a game for the Vols.

Lane

April 21st, 2009
2:48 pm

It was insane for Ga. to be ranked #1 last year because of the depth/youth of the OL. Also there was a clear lack of talent @ the DE.

This yr. these guys should be much better, if DE play improves. This could truly be a great OL to watch. Now if the guys covering Ga. only UNDERSTOOD the importance of the OL.

Everything starts up front.

Big B CH 99

April 21st, 2009
2:50 pm

The big thing that U have to think about when considering the BCS is not generating a true National Champ (best team in the country), but Making MONEY. They make money by putting in teams w/ a NATIONAL fan base that will bring the fans & buy merchandise. Teams w/ a National Fan Base include OU, TX, Oh. St., Mich., ND, S. Cal, & maybe Flor/LSU, ‘Bama in their hay-day. UGA hasn’t been a consistent enough program (between the Dooley yrs & Richt) to really have a true national fan base. UGA has a gigantic REGIONAL fan base (the SouthEast).

I’m a Tech fan, & I admit that Tech doesn’t even have a big Regional fan base, but we get national notoriety for our terrific Engineering (academics).

KD

April 21st, 2009
2:54 pm

Bottom line, Tony, Georgia is Florida’s little patsy and has one national championship. It’s great to have wins, but looking around at all my Athens friends, what’s “MISSING” to them is a recent national championship. Nick Saban is marching through Georgia with your recruits, and Florida is always ready to bite.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
2:54 pm

I also love people who say, “UGA makes excuses” and then some will use the excuse, “Georgia was lucky during their SEC championship runs because Florida, LSU, and Bama were down”. If that’s your logic then I can simply say that anytime your team has won anything it was only becuase the rest of college football was weak that year. Just as we can’t take away from LSU and Florida’s championships you can’t take away what UGA has won either. If you participate in that kind of thinking then you’re behaving like cry babies.

GT

April 21st, 2009
2:56 pm

There you go again, perfectly good college football man until it comes to defending your own program. This is the only blind spot you have but if you pull for anyone else you will not sale papers which is what it is all about. In this equation we do not talk about Alabama getting it back again or LSU keeping it after their change in coaching. True Auburn is out of the mix for a while but it looks to me like Mississippi has replaced them and since Georgia does not get sky high for Mississippi as they do for Auburn there is more chance of upset there too, plus Auburn will surprise you because they will look awful but still will get up for Georgia and might just beat you at there place in two years. South Carolina ,the team you love to hate, about gets you or does get you every year and looking at the recruiting of Tennessee and the coaching especially on defense tells me that ain’t going to be a cake walk either. If you were one of those stock pickers which there aren’t too many now days, whose stock would you seriously rather be buying, Georgia with had the best personal in years last year and still lost 3 games or Alabama’s which is only into its third year of a rebuilding program.

Big B CH 99

April 21st, 2009
2:58 pm

I forgot to mention that the BCS revolves around CONFERENCE TIE INS & Money. Why exactly did the Rose Bowl take the 2nd best Big 10 team in ‘07 (Illinois) when the Big 10 winner is in the NC, instead of taking UGA & putting the 2 hottest teams (UGA vs USC), I assume that more people want to watch that than USC outclass and Illinois team. They’re worried about Money & Conf. tie ins. If the Conferences stop supporting the BCS, then it loses its power.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
3:07 pm

I bet that once there is a playoff and a true national champion that most everything in the past will be considered irrelevant. Just like the NFL championship before the Super bowl or even the great strings of NC’s by Ivy League schools in the early portion of the 20th century. Get ready for alot of asteriks!

SomewhereinGA

April 21st, 2009
3:08 pm

Real Old Gold…..your statement regarding the players that “could barely read” being responsible for our 1980 National Championship is a plain baldfaced lie. It is as simple as that. I was a student there, earning a Bachelor’s and Master’s degree at that time. I was friends with, and associated with, and had class with them on a regular basis, with the majority of the players, including most of the starters.

You can come on to our Dawg blog and make all the smack talk you want…but at least give an honest effort at making your argument/smack factual in nature.

Now, go back to watching your Star Wars reruns, writing want-to-learn-to-kiss classified ads, working at Radio Shack, or whatever you nerds do in your spare time.

Gatorzone

April 21st, 2009
3:10 pm

Dean…Wilcox?

po'd Dawg

April 21st, 2009
3:19 pm

MR is 2-6 VS. UFags. I understand losing to teams better than us but he lost to some “Fla- ri- duh” teams that were not as good as we were. Now the gap is getting even more wide. I love MR but “corch Meyers” just wants it more.

Gatorzone

April 21st, 2009
3:25 pm

Hey Po’d, way to show your true colors…
STAY CLASSY!

Dean

April 21st, 2009
3:29 pm

Dean

April 21st, 2009
3:30 pm

We don’t claim PO’d Dawg.

The Truth Hurts

April 21st, 2009
3:38 pm

Hey GT..I’ll take Mark Richt any day over Saban or Meyer. Mark Richt’s record against Saban coached teams over the years is 4-3. His record against Meyer is 1-2 (Tebow years)….Let’s see what the Gators do once your QB leaves…he’s the glue that’s held your team together the past 3 years..once he’s gone you will not be as effective running your offense. Saban’s teams have a tendancy to have a Jekyell and Hyde personality….they sometimes don’t show up to play. Just look at the teams Saban has coached over the years…up and down…Alabama will continue to have up and down years as long as Saban is coaching them….expectations will be high this year and the fans will be disappointed when they lose 3 games……I can’t wait to hear the excuses……Georgia has been anything but perfect the past few years….the past two years they have had injuries that have seriously effected their play…but I have never once heard Mark Richt use that as an excuse for a loss…he always puts the blame back on himself…not like Meyer who immediately starts pointing fingers at others i.e. Georgia loss in 07′ and Ole Miss loss in 08′. Meyer’s always looking to deflect the blame.He should be very thankful that he had Tebow who was classy enough to put the blame on himself. I never once heard Meyer step up to the plate and except responsibility. Not much of a leader if you ask me!The SEC is a great conference and any team can jump up and beat another on any weekend…..so Florida fans smile while you can and feed as much BS to anyone that will listen…when your QB leaves and you start losing everyone is going to have a field day at your expense….and it’s going to hurt bad.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
3:38 pm

If Tony was in Nashville, how about a story about Vandy. I love the UGA stories but would love to hear about teams other than Bama, Tenn, Florida and Georgia.

po'd Dawg

April 21st, 2009
3:39 pm

I assume GATORZONE was refering to my horribly insensitive remark about UFags. Ever see the “hershel walker is Gay” t-shirts worn by thousands of gator fans in jax? That shirt is an insult to Hershel and Csuckers. A gaytor fan telling someone to “stay classy” is like Mrs. Obama telling someone they are fat or look like a monkey.

Dean

April 21st, 2009
3:43 pm

Again, I gaurantee this guy is a GT fan. Just don’t feed into it.

Tide fan

April 21st, 2009
3:49 pm

GT fan or not, po’d DAWG is funny…and he’s right

Stats Lie

April 21st, 2009
3:51 pm

LSU did win the NC in 2003 and UGA lost to them, twice! UGA also lost to FL, but backed into the SECC game because of the cream puff division at the time. But that’s one of Richt’s “Championship Game” appearances for his stats. Like I said, he had it easy in those days. Not anymore though.

ashburn dawg

April 21st, 2009
3:51 pm

Dean – you sound like the kind of crying lefty that give UGA (or UGAY as GT and UF fans call us) a bad name.

TexasTiger74

April 21st, 2009
3:54 pm

Excellent column Tony about an excellent coach, but there are two phases to the question.

First, you have to win the SEC to win the BCS, and that’s where Coach Richt hasn’t fared as well as some of his peers.

If you win the SEC (and aren’t undefeated), then getting to the BCSCG takes a considerable amount of luck and is usually outside the total control of Florida or LSU or anybody else. We all complain about it, but in another sport, we call it “the rub of the green”.

You are right that UF is turning it up a notch for the rest of us, but I am confident Coach Miles has the right answers recruited and the right assistants in place to make it happen. I happen to find it very favorable that the Gators are LSU’s regular SEC-East Opponent every year. If you want to be the best, you’d better play the best.

I look forward to taking the measure of UGA in Athens this year. I have a lot of respect for Coach Richt and the Dawgs, but I think they’ll be close but won’t win the SEC-East and one of those losses will be to LSU.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
3:56 pm

GT ” Georgia with had the best personal in years last year and still lost 3 games ”

No it wasn’t, not even close. See Lane’s post at 2:48. The ‘07 team was better and IMO ‘09 is looking better for the reasons stated in that post. The ‘07 team lost 2 games and was still one lucky break away from playing in a SECCG which was a clear playoff for the BCS title.

RAMBLE ON!!!

April 21st, 2009
3:58 pm

I think UGAg has a chance to be competitive against GT in 2010. Dwyer, Burnett, & Morgan will probably leave early for the NFL and level the playing field against Richt. Sedric Griffin will be gone too. But, CPJ is just too much of a better coach than Richt to lose.

This year, GT puts at least 50 on the fleabags, I don’t know if it will break the record of 48-0 owned by GT, but that’s why we play the games, right?

mightyKC

April 21st, 2009
4:02 pm

huh?: “Not even the Gainesville Golden Boy Urban Meyer has got it all figured out”

actually, that’s the problem…Meyer has the blueprint, and that’s bad bad news for UGA.

I do think Richt is a good coach, but what separates Meyer from the Richts of the SEC is that he is a big game coach…some d-bag gave his record against the West (and then for some reason removed two schools from that same record…as if that made any sense…wasn’t Arky in the SEC champ game 2 yrs ago?)…yes, UF historically, under SOS, [name redacted], and corch meyer have had a loss in the West every year…but guess what, Meyer is also something like 16-1 vs FSU, UT, UGA, Miami, and the SEC/NC games (so, big rivals and championship games). I understand that LSU is a bigger game on the landscape than, say, FSU, but you get the point.

Whereas Richt’s best team ever (not including his preseason Champs) lost to the Zooker because he puckered up.

FACE IT, RICHT = MICKELSON to MEYER’S TIGER WOODS!!

There is no National Championship in College Football

April 21st, 2009
4:05 pm

KD……….for the National Championships to be the only thing that matters, “National Championships” would have to exist in college football in the first place……….and they don’t. What does exist in college football are week to week wins and conference championships. Until the NCAA awards a wood plaque with a gold branches, it’s nothing official. Doritos might as well be awarding the thing.

AltamahaDawg

April 21st, 2009
4:13 pm

Casual, it’s interesting that you refer to hard factual winning percentages as “mythical success” while rings from a system heavy on votes and things out of your control as more tangible.

But to answer your question, I have yet to hear any explaination of how exactly how being “nice” is a disadvantage or even a factor.

Ed

April 21st, 2009
4:21 pm

Nonsense, Richt has two SEC titles, including a 13-1 season in ‘02 (show me where Florida or LSU have ever done better). The BCS title is a mythical title that means about as much as Georgia’s 1980 and ‘42 pre-BCS titles – nothing.

Almost as if to mock itself, the BCS crowned 2-loss LSU national champ in ‘07, only three years after snubbing 13-0 Auburn. Why anyone takes a so-called national championship in this sport seriously is beyond me.

There’s only one championship that the coaches have any control over, the SEC. Richt has won 2 in 8 seasons, which stacks up pretty well with the other top contenders in the league.

Monticello Dawg

April 21st, 2009
4:26 pm

Two points:
Those of you constantly harping on UGA’s preseason #1 ranking- the team that was picked to win it all was never on the field due to at least 19 season ending injuries. Who knows what the Dogs record would have been with a normal complement of injuries. In 2007 the Gators went 9-4, partially due to a lot of key injuries (though not as many as 08 Dogs).

Question for Bama fans: Has Saban ever had back to back 10 wins or more seasons? I read that he had not, but would like verification.

G8R GRAD

April 21st, 2009
5:09 pm

po’d Dawg:

You’re a racist idiot.

And I mean that in the most sincere way.

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
5:26 pm

Come on Georgia fans don’t wimp out on trying to win a NC it is not easy to do but you should strive for it.Despite all this talk about the BCS system Florida was the best team last year and in college basketball who won in the playoffs? Who won in the end? the top teams did, not the no-known teams that are given the chance to so playoffs don’t accomplish much at all.The top big named teams win in the end.Some of you are starting to sound like Auburn fans.Go back and look at Auburn’s schedule.

lol

April 21st, 2009
5:34 pm

I agree Tide4u2c, it’s not like Utah would have beat anyone good last year…….right?

Tony Cole

April 21st, 2009
5:34 pm

if all you haters don’t lay off my dogs i’m going to b*tch slap somebody

Otto

April 21st, 2009
5:43 pm

Saban:
‘99 10-2 at MSU
‘00 8-4 at LSU
‘01 10-3
‘02 8-5
‘03 13-1
‘04 9-3

Russ

April 21st, 2009
5:43 pm

What a lot of you seem to be forgetting about last year was the amount of injuries that plagued the roster for the entire season. Between losing Sturdivant pre-season, Jeff Owens in the first quarter of the first game, 4 DE’s, etc etc etc (what was it, 19 starters missed 66 starts over the course of the year?), how could anyone realistically expect a National Title?

The penalties were also an obvious problem, but not all were necessarily just. After the endzone celebration in the ‘07 GA/FL game, the Dawgs were under everyone’s microscope. Any hint of a miscue resulted in a flag. I mean, I’m not going to excuse holding, late-hits, and other stupid mistakes that were more prevalent than they should have been. But, the fact remains that Georgia caught more than their fair share of ‘tough breaks’ with penalties throughout the season (as an aside, does anyone remember the footage of the Arizona State game where they showed the Sun Devils had 12 defensive players in their goal line sets on 2 different drives that resulted in UGA field goals? Awesome. Go Pac-10 refs.).

On top of injuries and penalties, there was an inherent lack of hunger, it seemed, especially on defense. Richt attributed that to fewer tackling drills during practice towards the end of the season, which was evident in the last few games (see footage from the Tech game). According to the coaches and players, there’s already been an extreme attitude adjustment this Spring. Hopefully that carries over into the Summer/Fall..

All that said, I think we’ll be fine this year. The offense looked pretty dismal on G-day while the defense was slightly better than average. However, there are still 20-something opening day starters on the sidelines and awaiting high school graduation.

The arrival of Washaun Ealey, Branden Smith, Orson Charles, Kwame Geathers and Marlon Brown will surely be exciting (on top of the rest of a stacked recruiting class).

It’s gonna be a good season :)

Go Dawgs!

DW

April 21st, 2009
5:47 pm

I think the world of Coach Richt and wouldn’t trade him for ANY other coach. I love the Dawgs and want them to win as much as anyone and they win a lot. On top of that Coach Richt is a good man, who wouldn’t want their son to play for him? Only someone who only cares about the wins and losses and doesn’t understand there is life besides football.
With all that said, I wonder how Urban will do once Tebow is gone. Not saying Urban isnt a good coach but it seems to me he has a once in a generation player in Tebow. Even UGA fans have to admit that young man is a special player. He seems to be able to will them to win, he reminds me of David Pollack, except from the DE position you are not as in control of the game as the QB.

The Truth Hurts

April 21st, 2009
5:48 pm

Hey Tide4u2c….remember this date….I predict that the Tide will have 3-4 losses this year and Georgia will have a better record than Bama. Once again you Tide fans will have more excuses than anyone can count. I watched your Spring game….you got a lot of work to do …Va. Tech is going to hang you out to dry. So is LSU,Ole Miss and most likely Arkansas. Your athletes are no better than anyone elses. Saban teams tend to lose their way every season and under acheive. As always,Saban will then point fingers at everyone except himself….Your O-LINE needs a lot of work and your QB made some incredibly stupid throws in the Spring game.I hear that Jolio Jones is about to flunk out…ouch! Keep thinking that you are the greatest though…that will keep you in the games against teams like La. Monroe…ouch! and Utah….!

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
5:48 pm

Utah would’nt have beat a healthy Alabama,Florida,Oklahoma,Texas,USC,etc for the NC.Florida would’ve still won the NC.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
5:51 pm

Tide4u Auburn played a SEC schedule and USC played the PAC9 and VT. It is a shame USC could not be exposed. OU has choked in every BCS game since the ‘02 title against LSU.

Kiffinisatosser

April 21st, 2009
5:51 pm

Utah did beat a healthy Bama. After losing to Va Tech in game 1, you schmoes will be 0-3 for your last 3….bwahhhhh

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
5:51 pm

The Truth Hurts,

Go for it predict anything you want to.But don’t be surprised if you see Bama and Florida playing in the SEC champ game again.

Otto

April 21st, 2009
5:52 pm

Bama wouldn’t have beaten a healthy UGA team.

SmokeyRules

April 21st, 2009
5:54 pm

Just wait till Eric Berry eats up about 4 Joe Cox passes. Yall will be after Rikt’s hide then. Once you get the Crompton treatment yall will be hawling in paine. hell drop a pass right in behind youre secondary.

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
5:54 pm

Really Utah beat a healthy Alabama? Are you sure about that? Or are you ignoring the fact Andre Smith was out of the game?Utah beat a healthy Alabama?You really believe Utah would’ve beat Florida don’t ya?

SmokeyRules

April 21st, 2009
5:56 pm

woopes, sorry for the typoes,

Kiffinisatosser

April 21st, 2009
5:58 pm

Yes I do. Except for Smith the entire Bama team was tanned rested and ready. Smith would not have played defense. Bama was reading their own press clippings and got schooled. Injuries were not the reason.

Kiffinisatosser

April 21st, 2009
5:59 pm

And who said anything about Florida? Since Bama lost to both, we will never know.

Bo Williams

April 21st, 2009
6:02 pm

I am neutral on UGA, being a UNC fan. I frequently ?rail? on them, usually just to be mean. But if truthful, UGA has one of the best programs in the country, and anyone who suggests that UGA would be better off without MR is simply either ignorant, or (more likely) envious, or just plain scared. He may not ever win the NC, but that will not diminish him or the program. Button it up if you have UGA on your schedule. I hope UNC gets to where UGA is soon, maybe this year.

Barack Obama

April 21st, 2009
6:07 pm

Whose callin’ my wife fat, Willis??? Hey can’t we all just get along here? If I can shake hands with a dictator who just called me names (no, not Bobby Knight) then why can’t we ALL join hands? Think I’m gonna blow off a little steam here and do the Go Gator!…It’s sweeping the Nation! Michelle is doing the gatorvictory pole dance right now! Hott!

Munson

April 21st, 2009
6:07 pm

Andre Smith was perfectly healthy during the Sugar Bowl, so please drop the ‘healthy Bama’ excuse. Even with Smith, the Utes would still beat you because your team and your coach failed to get ready to play them. I know you were disappointed to be playing Utah, but guess what, UGA was disappointed to play Hawaii in 07 and still wiped them off the field. Saban just failed to get his team ready to play in that game, stop making excuses.

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
6:09 pm

Had Andre Smith played in the Sugar Bowl Alabama would’ve beat Utah.That Utah defensive line would’ve been worn down Bama would’ve came back and beat Utah.Bama was catching them even without an O-line. Utah took advantage of Bama’s weakness and you cannot blame them for it.Just like Georgia was effected by injuries Bama was effected with Andre out of the game.Andre is a 1st round draft pick LT.I’m still glad though that Andre was suspended for the game though despite the loss.

Barack Obama

April 21st, 2009
6:09 pm

Oh by the way, almost forgot, I’ll see you at the White House Thursday Gators! You all come up here one more time and I’m gonna have to change the name of the Oval Office to the Reptile Room!!!

Maybe Next Year

April 21st, 2009
6:10 pm

Hey Truth Hurts, our backup quarterback is better than any of your quarterbacks. Truth Hurts huh? Go Gators

athensdawg

April 21st, 2009
6:13 pm

altamaha, don’t forget about Rocky’s Pizza, TK’s, the ga bar, sky’s place and The Odessy……

tony…nice article, but your attempts to justify ring hollow.

It’s all about the hardware, and unfortunately, CMR aint got none.

so until then, dawg people need to stay quiet.

The Truth Hurts

April 21st, 2009
6:13 pm

Tide4u2c….Utah didn’t just beat BAMA…they ripped your heart out and showed it to you…..Just like Va.Tech, Ole Miss and LSU are going to do to you this year.Arkansas won’t rip your heart out just…smash your faces in….and once again the excuses will start!One half way decent season does not make a dynasty. Saban has recruited no better than LSU,Florida or Georgia the past two years….so quit patting yourself on the back!

athensdawg

April 21st, 2009
6:15 pm

and we need to respect the
athaletic and academic school that is the best of all the teams in the conference we play in.

one two free fo fiva…dem gators dont take no jive.

Kiffinisatosser

April 21st, 2009
6:20 pm

The Tide got beaten straight up by Utah. Andre Smith might have helped but the failure was really one of preparation. Doubly pitiful given the Bamoid homefield advantage. With no QB you guys are BADLY overrated this year and Saban knows. At least you will beat the Vols despite Smokey’s illiterate ramblings above.

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
6:25 pm

The Truth Hurts,

I have only pointed out what Bama has been able to accomplish since Saban came to Alabama.Did you hear me say Bama was gonna win a NC this year?Nope. But Alabama is a much stronger team now and is only getting stronger.If you have’nt noticed it yet, you will.I agree Saban,Miles and Richt have all recruited well.I can’t wait to see which team uses all of that talent to be the most succesful team in the SEC.It is gonna be fun to just sit back and watch it all play out. Roll Tide!

The Truth Hurts

April 21st, 2009
6:28 pm

Let’s face it …Andre Smith is dumber than a box of rocks …the fact that he didn’t even prepare for the NFL combine proves that he has no sense…..It wouldn’t have mattered if he’d played in the bowl game or not….he doesn’t play defense and the Utah offense did anything they wanted when they wanted…..your very lucky the score wasn’t worse.

Bo Williams

April 21st, 2009
6:33 pm

Now, back on UGA’s tail. UGA won the NC in 1981 by defeating No. 7 (going into game) ND. That would not wash today, even though we still have only a MNC.

Tide4u2c

April 21st, 2009
6:34 pm

You guys are judging Bama based on a spring game? I would’nt do that if I were you.Instead focus on what the coaches at Bama have been able to accomplish with less talent and depth than the top teams of the SEC.Did you ee hat happened when ndre was out of the games?It effected Bama earler in the season too when he was out for the Toledo game.And yet how could Bama win 12 games in a row while playing the most true freshmen of any other team too because of depth problems?

Big Dawg

April 21st, 2009
6:43 pm

So, I’ve taken a look at all the coaches that have won a college football national championship since 1980. One of the reasons I’ve done this is to try and figure out the average of seasons a new head coach, coached a team before they won a championship. I also wanted to figure out if Mark Richt lost his window to win one and if he’s on track to be the next solid good coach that doesn’t win a title.

What I found is that of the coaches that won a national championship since 1980 (some won it more than once but I didn’t use their second victory in the calculation) they have averaged 6.5 seasons in order to win a championships.

Out of all the coaches that won a title since 1980, 5 were very long term coaches (Dooley, Paterno, Jones, Bowden & Osborne) which aren’t seen much more in our day and age. If we remove these 5 coaches from the equation it took the rest of the coaches 3.86 seasons to win their first national championship.

If we look at the last 10 season and figured out the average for new coaches to win a national championship we would find that out of the 9, 1st national championship winners it took them 2.88 seasons as head coaches to win a title.

From my research what I’ve concluded was that CMR may have missed his chance in 2002 when he won the SEC championship and in 2003 when he went into the SEC championship and lost to LSU. Throughout this time UGA’s biggest rivals were all down. Florida had coach Ron Zook, Phil Fulmer was losing his touch and Georgia Tech had Chan Gailey. Since Richt’s early years, South Carolina has hired Steve Spurrier to torment the Dawgs, Florida hired Urban Meyer and Tennessee while having bad seasons still managed to pull off a few big victories vs. the Dawgs. LSU, got another national championship winning coach in Les Miles, Alabama hired Nick Saban and Georgia Tech has obviously upgraded by hiring Paul Johnson.

Having a 10 win season is no different than having an 8 win season 10 years ago when there were only 10 games in a season and going 9 and 3 is like going 7-3. Now that we’ve added a few more games to the schedule all we do is beat up on a few “former” division II schools that pad the winning percentage.

Richt has been coaching for 8 full seasons. If Mark Richt doesn’t make changes like hiring a new defensive coordinator with some fire and drive and a special teams coach that can help us with field position we are on our way to have a long term very good solid coach like Frank Beamer. Too good to fire not good enough to win it all. It takes luck to win a national championship that’s certain but the voters will consider us less than worthy every time they see us get thumped by the Gators. I love the DAWGS but if they can’t beat Florida on a more consistent basis they won’t get over the hurdle. (They need to go .500 with Florida)

Atlanta Gator

April 21st, 2009
7:16 pm

Big Dawg—-Good statistical analysis. It is increasingly apparent that new college football coaches are held to a shorter timeline to turn programs around before they themselves get canned fi they don’t. Your numbers may be slightly skewed by omitting the repeat champion coaches, but you’re point is well made nevertheless.

As a Gator fan, I express no opinion regarding the application of your theory to the current head coach of the Dawgs.

john

April 21st, 2009
7:18 pm

What’s missing at UGA is a good Offensive Coordinator and a good Defensive Coordinator. As long as Bobo and Martinez are at UGA the program is going to stay where it currently is.

GATORMAN 722

April 21st, 2009
7:20 pm

It’s not what’s missing at Georgia; it’s what has been added to the schedule.
From 1903 to 1992 Georgia played Tennessee 21 times.
1993 to 2008 they have played 16 times
From 1903 to 1992 Georgia played Alabama 57 times.
1993 to 2008 they have played 6 times.
From 1903 to 1992 Georgia played LSU 20 times.
1993 to 2008 they have played 7 times.
Georgia cannot win championships anymore with the schedule the SEC has today.

Tide rising

April 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

The truth hurts and kiffinisaloser,

You guys are pretty sad dudes in that all you can do is gloat about someone else beating Bama in Utah. I guess you both must be huge Ole Miss fans also since they beat the hated gators. Truly pathetic

We didn’t just lose Andre for the game. We also lost our all conference left guard Michael Johnson early in the first qtr and so we played the game without the strength of our o-line which is the left side. Plus our 3rd down tailback Roy Upchurch didn’t play. Being that you’re both UGA fans I’m certain you remember Mr. Upchurch. But enough with the excuses. That’s not really why we got UTAH’D.

We didn’t show up mentally prepared to play and got whupped. It happens and if you come into a bowl game ticked off, disinterested, and not really wanting to play the game because you fell one qtr short of being in the national title game then you deserve to lose. So what? Hard to believe that you 2 are so pathetic that you’re happiness is made by Utah beating bama. Is there a word more pathetic than pathetic to describe the 2 of you?

J.R.

April 21st, 2009
7:27 pm

I can tell you what’s missing at Georgia,football wise anyway,CLASS.Coach Richt,whom I highly respect,often times appears to be the only person,along with Claude Felton,who has any….disregarding his little motivational stunt in Jacksonville 2 years ago.Being an SEC football fan,it is a great conference,and lucky enough that my job has afforded me the opportunity to visit every SEC stadium on game day,I can personally attest that UGA fans are the worst,and generally,the most disliked,of fans throughout the conference.Everybody has their own personal rivalry game…but UGA folks,are,by and large,despised by all,because of their obnoxiouness…even after a win.I’ve seen one of their fans barking at a nine year old girl,I’ve seen one of ‘em hit an Auburn fan..and run..the Auburn guy was taking a leak…keyingcars. ..and on and on.Rennie Curran said,after losing to Georgia Tech last year,that the best team lost…which seems to be standard commentary after a loss…it was a fluke…fully endorsed by Dawg Nation.Late hits,I bet they led the nation in those.What’s missing at UGA? CLASS.

joe

April 21st, 2009
7:36 pm

Lets see Florida go undefeated before we pronounce them god

braveshater

April 21st, 2009
7:49 pm

CMR doesnt have the make up to push his team to a national championship. He’s to soft, Too Nice, and Not a good enough motivator. Its time for a change if the Dawg Nation ever wants to even sniff a national title shot. FREE WILLY, Jesus, what is it going to take for this guy to be relieved of his duties. Can u imagine if Bill Muschamp was UGA’s D. Coordinator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its started

April 21st, 2009
8:06 pm

Uh oh! Looks like its started already. For the first time I now see a poster openly calling for CMR to be fired. He aint getting fired. Not now anyway. But if he loses 4 games this season which is entirely possible along with the traditional whupping the the gators are going to give him then his seat is going to start getting hot. Real hot. Let’s fact it. He is going to lose to UF for at least the next 2 years. At 2-8 against UF I think he’s gone.

tbb

April 21st, 2009
8:21 pm

I’m pretty sure Dawg fans feel like a National Championship is missing…..

What?

April 21st, 2009
8:33 pm

tbb,

You are totally incorrect. Dawg fans are completely at ease. They won the 2008 pre-season national championship. Where have you been?

Happy days were here again

April 21st, 2009
8:44 pm

Folks UGA just had its best 6 years ever.
It is a dark decade in front of them.
They can not compete in the East.
They can not compete in the State.

Happy days were here again….. Hope the UGA fans enjoyed it while it lasted.

Dave In Tampa

April 21st, 2009
8:46 pm

One Post, ““The dawgs have lost 4 out of the last 5 to Tech when Tech’s coach was not named gailey.”

Seriously??? I’m 46 years old and Tech has only won 13 times in those 46 years. Now that is sad. One win in 8 and you guys are suppose to be world beaters. I mean congrats on you decade win, but seriously, get a clue.

jaxbeachgator1955

April 21st, 2009
8:49 pm

It’s great to be a Florida Gator..today. It wasn’t so great back when I was 12 and the Dogs put a 51-0 stompin’ on us in a torrential downpour in J’ville. I had to wear a suit through that debacle and it never fit again(thank goodness!!). Those were the years when Vince was the baddest Dog of all, and the the Dogs really had the Gators number. Oh misery!!
I know the real Dog’s fans still love their team and their great HC CMR. One heck of a man and an outstanding coach, the best since Vince. Dog’s would be crazy to let him go, cuz look what your AD came up with for a new BB coach! So man up, get a few more playmakers and DL’s, and we will see you in Jax for The Border War. It just wouldn’t be the same game in ATL, would it?

SugarHillDawg

April 21st, 2009
9:05 pm

Ramble On, How old are you? I’m guessing 12.How are you LOSERS gonna stop UGA? That defense couldn’t stop Perez Hilton from taking it the distance.You IDIOTS better pray those guys don’t get hurt, if they do it’s back to the basement watching Star trek episodes for you.

SugarHillDawg

April 21st, 2009
9:09 pm

Dave in Tampa, when you take out the games that Tech was cheating, it’s about 9 games in however many years. That’s REALLY paTHEtiC.That’s right, you cant spell PATHETIC without T-E-C-H!!!

Sanford Drive

April 21st, 2009
9:22 pm

JR,

Don’t be a moron. We all have stories about “X Team” is that absolute worst because of “X reason”. We’ve all had unpleasant personal encounters just like the ones you’ve mentioned. I’ve been cussed out by Auburn and Florida fans without having said anything. My buddy’s windshield was busted out at the UT game a couple of years ago. Heck, an Alabama fan killed an LSU fan this past season after arguing over football. So, please spare us all the lecture about ‘class’ because there’s a bad lot in every fan base.

SamoanDawg

April 21st, 2009
9:48 pm

I’m tired of some people question coach Richt. Richt will be in Athens for as long he wants to. GA’s coach job is among the securest job in the nation. His staffs didn’t want to leave for more money because Richt is the best man to work with and for. UT, AU, Miami and South Florida are few of unsecure jobs in the nation.. these were some of the schools they offered jobs to Richt’s assistants. I wouldn’t want to leave either unless I was offered a HC job. I’m happy with Richt as our coach.. he’s a great man! He will win the big one eventually. And I won’t be surprised if he does it this year. Anything is possible!

Hunker Down U Hairy Dawgs!

bama12titles

April 21st, 2009
9:52 pm

Sanford Drive,

Actually that was this year that the Bama fan killed the LSU fan after the game. 3 years ago a Bama fan also killed his son after a gutwrenching loss to Ark. The kid kept bugging his dad during the game over buying him a car or something or another. Well, it was a tough loss in OT to Ark in a game which we completely dominated but heeding to the tradition of coach Shula we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. I was mad as hell and that’s why I remember it so well. Apparently this guy was even madder. He was so upset after the game and ticked off at his kid at the same time that he got a gun and shot his kid dead. His excuse to the cops was that he was extremely upset over the loss and that his kid just picked the wrong time to egg him on about getting a car.

About fan bases its true. Everyone has their fair share of jackazz fans although its generally agreed by most people of all schools that LSU fans are the worst as far as vandalizing, starting fights, etc. The AJC had an article on this last year and by most accounts LSU was the worst. But it is reality that we all have our share of idiots. Also, in reference to players who get into trouble with the law the same can be said. I’ll never understand why some people reference a particular player on somebody’s program getting into trouble with the law. Every major program is gonna have a few bad apples come through. Except maybe Vandy of course.

savanadawg

April 21st, 2009
9:53 pm

Holy cow. Who cares!!! Each game sits on its own face value. Let’s let the kids play the games and such. This crap u bloggers put up is amazing. And Barnhart! I just don’t give a rats A** about a columbe of words some sports enthusist writes about. Disecting this and disecting that. FLORIDA gets beat this year more than once.

Steve

April 21st, 2009
9:58 pm

I think people forget that Georgia finished #2 twice during that period as well, and many people feel Georgia had the best team in the country both of those years.

Gator God

April 21st, 2009
9:59 pm

What was that joe?? Did you say something or is there perhaps something I can answer for you?? Gotta go…Tim’s on the phone…

45-42

April 21st, 2009
10:10 pm

hey sugarhill…this just in. Tech just scored again! football….basketball….baseball. but congrats to the gymdawgs

The opiner

April 21st, 2009
10:16 pm

Steve,

Many people felt UGA had the best team in the country both of those years? Uh, I don’t think so. Only people in Georgia think that. Few people outside of Georgia thought that. Especially in 07 when uga couldn’t even win its own division. Sorry dude but whupping on overmatched tier 2 conference team like Hawaii doesn’t seem so impressive in retrospect.

Tide rising

April 21st, 2009
10:20 pm

Gator god,

That was pretty funny. Except Tebow left Florida already. My good buddy who is a gator fan told me that Tim has already ascended into heaven. But he said not to worry that John Brantley would pick up where Tim left off.

Nachos

April 21st, 2009
10:20 pm

Gene Chizik? hahahahaahhaahahahahhahahhahahahahahhaahhahahaha !

Tide rising

April 21st, 2009
10:32 pm

Nachos,

Yeah. I’m still laughing too. Except that in between laughing I just sit there with a mile wide sh&teating grin on my face. But you should give Chizik a little more credit. You forget that his 2 wins last year as a head coach came over 2 nationally renowned programs North Dakota State and Kent State. North Dakota State is great in hockey and Kent is good at um, uh, well, they must be good at something or another!

Denver Dog

April 21st, 2009
10:37 pm

Since Richt got to UGA, the Gators have had 2 coaches, AU 2 Coaches, LSU 3 coaches, GT 3 coaches, UT 2 coaches, Ole Miss 4 coaches, and so on and so forth. What kind of fools would even think anything bad about CMR. IT APPEARS THAT THE ONLY ONES BLASTING CMR ARE TECH FANS, GATOR FANS, UT FANS AND SURELY THEY ARE NOT COLLEGE FOOTBALL FANS. So if UGA is preseason @ 20 th and finshes in the top 10 he will have hung the moon. Beware dog fans, we are playing some real teams out of conference, no Woffords, or Garnder Webb’s. OSU and ASU. Then you have the rest, Middle Tenn and Ga Tech.

I really can’t even believe that Tony B would try to start something like this, but UGA could have a long season, and it won’t be because we don’t paly anyone. GO Dogs, the rest of you fools pull for your team and leave ours alone.

bama12titles

April 21st, 2009
10:47 pm

Denver Dog,

I think most fans of other teams like myself have a healthy respect and admiration for Richt. He is one of the good guys in college football. Sure, you’ll have some idiots put him down here and there but overall I think most people who try to restrain their biases and think rationally respect his accomplishments.

Steve

April 21st, 2009
11:27 pm

In ‘07, LSU leaped over Georgia to get into the title game – and UGA still recieved 1st place votes on the final Poll – so evidently many people did think that UGA was the best team in the country.

The not winning the division thing is a chimera created to justify LSU getting into the party. LSU played in the SEC West, which was admittedly horrible in ‘07. Saban’s 1st year, MSU, Ole Miss way down, Auburn and Arkansas their only competition in the West. The Dawgs played much tougher competition in the East – do your research honestly, and you’ll see that it’s correct.

Miles

April 21st, 2009
11:38 pm

Mr. Barnhart, you haven’t missed a thing. As evidenced by the information you’ve provided, Richt is a great coach and the football program at Georgia is in great shape. Only a fool would disagree. Richt is not going anywhere. The problem Georgia faces is the Gators from Gainesville. The Bulldogs will not be able to compete with the versatility of Tebow, the creative offense of Meyer, the experience of the Gators defense, and the overall speed of the Old Boys From Florida.

JaxDawg

April 22nd, 2009
12:14 am

Once Tebow graduates, UF will be way down—meyer will be heading to Notre Dame, UF ends up with another ron zook type coach, and UGA will start dominating the SEC like the old days! UF’s has the advantage in talent this year, but without Tebow, Richt beats UF easy in 2010, and starts a long winning streak–mark it down!

Natecore

April 22nd, 2009
1:53 am

Is it too much to ask to beat Florida more than twice in said 8 years?

The TooFright Show

April 22nd, 2009
2:04 am

Message to JaxDawg…HEEERRREE’S JOOOHHNNY!

I Hope We Can I Wish We Could!

April 22nd, 2009
2:15 am

YEAH! JUST WAIT TILL TEBOW’S GONE! OR WHEN MEYER GOES TO ND! OR ALL THEIR PLAYERS GET INJURED! OR WHEN WE GET A REAL DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR! OR WHEN WE GET A REAL OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR! OR WHEN THEIR TIME COMES! OR WHEN THEY DON’T GET SO LUCKY! OR WHEN THAT METEOR HITS GAINESVILLE! OR WHEN THEY MOVE THE GAME TO ATLANTA! OR WHEN WE GET THE GAME TO ATHENS! OR WHEN WE GET RICKY RECRUIT! OR WHEN……………….

Reptilian Rapper

April 22nd, 2009
2:21 am

Ricky Recruit

April 22nd, 2009
2:31 am

HEY, I AIN’t Goin’ To Gaawga!

Bugs Ugaly

April 22nd, 2009
2:35 am

What a maroone!!!

If Wally Butts Had Candy For Nutts

April 22nd, 2009
2:41 am

YEAH, It’s gonna be just like the good ole’ days when that Tebone leaves!

pdh

April 22nd, 2009
4:29 am

Good show on 104.5 with Matthew and Barnhart.

Any disgruntled Dawg fan should have a 10 year dose of Fulmer.

UGA ALWAYS CHOKES

April 22nd, 2009
5:31 am

CHOKE! THE OFFICAL DRINK OF UGA LEGHUMPERS !

Just the facts

April 22nd, 2009
6:33 am

UGA has been a good program, not great the last few years. They have feasted on the lower level SEC teams. They have played a down USC, UT, Auburn, MIss St and Vandy. This past season, they played the better teams, LSU and Alabama and look what happened. They get press for playing ASU, but they were not good. They have been somewhat paper tigers. They have not beaten a top flight program in years, excluding the Florida fluke. Over rated program…but I would love my kid to play for Richt..class guy

dawgfan1911

April 22nd, 2009
7:23 am

Hey I hat e the Gators, but the fact of the matter is that they are a Great program right now. they make plays when they need to and they have better position coaches than Georgia thats why they always beat Georgia! Martinez cant hold Charlie Strong’s jock! and Urban is a better motivator than Rict hands down its obvious. Georgia has been more consistent with winning since Rict has been the coach, but in terms of winning big games with national championship implications involved, Rict is 0 for ? As far as this year, Georgia’s stregnths will be on both fronts, but who will run the ball and how will Cox respond, I personally think Gray should be the starter. Why wasnt the qb position open from the start? Making a guy a starter because he has been there for 5 years dosent help the team, competition does. On the defense who will rush the qb and how will a young secondary stack up against SEC comp? We will see!

SugarHillDawg

April 22nd, 2009
7:35 am

Hey 45-42, this just in, you’re an IDIOT! Have you, m and Ramble on been sharing notes. Your post reads like those two MORON’S.Keep running your pecker puffer. It’s be even UGLIER in that dump of a stadium you call Grant Field!

Moe Lester

April 22nd, 2009
7:49 am

UGA: 2009 Citrus Bowl champs !

ashburn dawg

April 22nd, 2009
7:59 am

I still love po’d dawg. Mrs. Obama really is fat…and racist.Probably a UFag fan as well. Sorry Dean – you need to tuffnup. You dont have the right to not be offended. goes for you to Gay tor fans.

po'd dawg

April 22nd, 2009
8:02 am

Finally, someone who gets it!

ray

April 22nd, 2009
8:03 am

those other schools always seem to come up with a top defensive coordinator.

we don’t have that. not even close.

tift county dawg

April 22nd, 2009
8:05 am

G8tr grad cant take a joke. Was he a judge at the miss america padget or just your ordinary pole smoker?

DooleyForever

April 22nd, 2009
8:18 am

You left out that Richt’s great years have occured when LSU, Alabama, Florida and Tennessee were each having subpar years. Name a great SEC team he has beaten. The best he can offer is one half way decent win over an LSU team. Last year he lost to every good team we played.

He is a great recruiter but simply not a very good gameday coach. I would certainly take ten to fifteen coaches over him. His failure to get rid of the Def. Coord. shows loyalty to his staff that is honorable but also risking his career at UGA. We’d rather win…than have good morals! :o )

Zoomie

April 22nd, 2009
9:17 am

I support Coach Richt and hope he doesn’t go anywhere. At the same time, last year’s UGA football team exposed some serious ugliness in the areas of motivation, discipline, and leadership. Since last season, I’ve heard Coach Richt openly acknowledge these problems and express that the team has a plan to deal with the issues. Regardless of the ultimate W-L record, if the 2009 Bulldog football team comes out and plays with fire, discipline, and teamwork, we’ll know those particular problem areas were addressed. There’s no shame in getting beat on any given Saturday, but laying down, giving up on your teammates, failing to meet even the most basic of your position’s responsibilities, as we saw at times last year, is inexcusable. Now that the “personalities,” the “celebrity playmakers” are gone, I think the team, as a whole, will step up and play the game the way it’s supposed to be played. I also believe the coaching staff learned some valuable lessons from last season and will all become better coaches for it. Coach Richt is a good coach. We need to let him grow and let his staff grow and maybe he’ll become a great (from a historical perspective) coach.

Dawg Gone

April 22nd, 2009
9:47 am

ashburn dog and po’d dog deserve eachother. They are probably spooning right now. I wonder if they attend Ignorant classes together as well. Dawgs, if that is your typical “dawg” fan, then I am officially now a Rep Corrine Brown fan. Next to those two, she sounds like a Shakespeare poet!!

Jay

April 22nd, 2009
10:13 am

Bama will soon feel (once again) the heavy hand of the NCAA. 1st LOI is in, more to come.

EEJacket

April 22nd, 2009
11:41 am

You’ve GOT to be kidding me. All you dawg fans complaining about your 10-win season, gimme a break. At least ya’ll didn’t have to live with spineless Gailey for 7 lonnngggg years. I thank God every day that we now have a coach who makes GT football interesting again, as well as the UGA-GT rivalry. The FBS needs to watch out for Tech next year!

THWG!!

rickyt

April 22nd, 2009
11:55 am

I went to school during the Donnan/ Goff years and remember sitting in the stands when we lost to southern miss, never getting past the 20 against tenn one year, and Hines Ward taking the biggest beating I’ve even seen dished out on a qb by auburn one year. Richt is awesome compared to them. But my knock on richt is that it seems that at least one game a year at least the last 2 years we get crushed. tenn 2 years ago bama and the gators this year. But no we don’t get rid of him unless he won’t get rid of coordinators. We need elite coordinators in order to be an elite team. Willie saved his job against fla 2 years ago and should have lost his job after the tech loss this year. we have too much talent to get blown out in any game.

mightyKC

April 22nd, 2009
12:38 pm

Steve: “I think people forget that Georgia finished #2 twice during that period as well, and many people feel Georgia had the best team in the country both of those years.”

*Real* tomato ketchup, eddie? Scuba Steve, c’mon dude…”many people”…yeah, 1 voter and every dawg fan. this is like the Vol’s annual “we’re the better team in Novmeber!” cry…of course Osama proved them right in 2001 (doh!).

and how about the one poster trying to act like winning the BCS isn’t a big deal, and it’s only ‘a mythical title’…W….T…..F? are you people serious?! good lord there are soem delusional pups out there…sad.

Hale

April 23rd, 2009
7:39 am

Nothing is missing……I really love him as my lifelong head coach…

BuLLdawg

April 28th, 2009
4:59 am

What’s missing at Georgia ?

If it’s Absolutely nothing, as you surmise here Tony Blowhart, then DO NOT SAY in the same very article that Georgia has NOT WON A FINAL AP POLL BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP SINCE 1980.

Clearly, a team ranked in the Top 10 of the Final USA Today Coaches’ Poll, had no Tight End who had more than 5 catches grand total all season long.

You do point out that we didn’t have a Defensive End.

You also FAIL to point out that we played 3 teams who ended up in the Final AP Poll Top 25 who in fact beat another Final AP Poll Top 25 team. We gave up RUNS of 29, 31 and 46 CONSECUTIVE POINTS AGAINST US in ALL 3 GAMES. And, LOST all 3.

You do point out that Florida has our Number. Next year is Year 20, and UGA has won exactly 3 of those. 2 Decades. 3 Wins Total.

You fail to point out that we kicked off out of bounds 10 times last year and kicked off into the end zone for a Touchback once. By direct comparison, we were the 11th worse in the conference at returning kickoffs.

We Lost the 2 best football players on the team in Pick 1 and Pick 12.

It is no longer fashionable to end up ranked in the Final AP Poll Top 25 every season starting 1997, while no other program has.

Excuse me, call it like it is. We lead The SEC and 4th in the Nation in NFL players on Opening Day Rosters, had 6 drafted and 4 sign free agent contracts yesterday for 10 of the team trying to make rosters this year in addition. We are the 4th best state for producing high school football players who end up on NFL rosters behind only California, Florida and Texas, recruit nationally as well as anyone, have a Top 6 Recruiting Ranking every year for 8 years and counting of The Coach Richt Era, and have to show for that no sniff of any national championship. National Championships are NOT LUCK. Missouri was no good and beat no good team. Kansas was no good and beat no good team. They neither therefore had any business in the BCS Mythical National Championship Game against LSU, who slaughtered Ohio State (Who hasn’t ? The SEC has NEVER LOST a bowl game to Ohio State.) That was the year before last.

Last Year, Florida was also CONSENSUS National Champions. This, too, is NOT LUCK. They won, like LSU the year before, and like 3 of the last 5 NC are SEC teams and 5 SEC NC since 1998, because they have stellar special teams, solid good defense and an offense that can outscore the best offenses in the NCAA Bowl subdivision 119 teams. That is NOT LUCK.

Georgia has a slew of nobody assistant coaches, who do NOTHING to teach the talent HANDED TO THEM by this state and by my alma mater.

Had we not started the season ranked Number 1 last year, UGA having LOST all 3 games giving up 29, 31 and 46 unanswered points against teams who were Top 25 teams and beat other Top 25 teams last year, UGA would NEVER have ended the season ranked. We were ranked in only the Top 25 of the Final AP Poll 2 years earlier. That’s 2 of the last 3 years, we really are not a ranked football team at all.

We suck at kicking off, suck at returning kickoffs, cannot tackle the opposing quarterbacks, cannot defend the pass preferring to hold our ground and play our position leaving every receiver wide open, and now after 2 years of the most promising running back, don’t have a tailback either. When YOU can say that sir, with all the talent and good pieces we have in our program, you have an indictment of our assistant coaches on our coaching staff, who are not and have not gotten the job done to have a complete football team.

In fact, 2 of the last 3 years, UGA should not have been ranked at all.

We also lead the nation in suspensions/arrests with 104 in the 8-Year Coach Richt/Rodney Garner Era.

Willie Martinez is the most heralded nobody in college football. His defensive strategy is to NOT GET AFTER IT. Hold your ground. Play your position. NO FIRE.

Mike Bobo, while he did have a stellar senior season here himself, is not considered by anyone either as a top offensive coordinator. He never taught Matthew Stafford how to be a Leader and despite all of Bobo’s cries every day for 3 years, watches now as Stafford goes to do in the NFL what he never did here which is have his moment in a big game and not put the ball on the turf or throw interceptions with 18 fumbles and 33 interceptions to only 51 touchdown passes here and 5 rushing tds. I wish him all the best in the NFL with his $42 million guaranteed, but if it does it there, it will be despite the fact that he did NOT here with this coaching staff, not when we should never have been ranked in the Top 25 two of his 3 years here. And, his 3rd season here, UGA had the Number 75 Passing Offense; that was the year before last.

If you cannot say how horrid it is that Fabulous Knowshon Moreno only played 2 years here, then don’t name an article what is wrong with UGA, nothing. Our coaching staff, is NOT getting the job done despite all the talent here.

If you cannot bring yourself to the point of saying that clearly Jon Fabris has NO BUSINESS COACHING OUR SPECIAL TEAMS, then you miss the point that with all this NFL talent every year here, Jon Fabris has done a horrible job coaching special teams for us, and they continue to be pitiful.

John Eason. What the hell did he ever do with our wide receivers before he was handed AJ Green ? Did you watch the Spring G-Day Game ? Oh, yeah, you reported that you never learn anything from a Spring Game by any team, anytime. We completed 1 pass to AJ Green on the opening play, and thereafter, never did complete another pass to AJ Green, while the team dropped every pass throw again, as was the history of John Eason here.

No.

What’s wrong with the UGA Football Program, is the coaching staff of Coach Richt.

Clearly.

Perhaps you are satisfied being average. I would like to actually be considered an Elite Football Program. Before Matthew Stafford got here, we were almost an Elite Football Program. Not quite. Almost. Not there. Not yet. And, 2 of the these last 3 years, have been a disaster.

So, where are we as a staff ?

Given talent galore. Teach them nothing.

Top 25 is not what I aspire to for my University.

Top 10 every once in a while, or even more often than not, still leaves 10 other teams every year having a better season than us.

One Number 3 and One Number 2, neither of which were we even considered for the mythical naitonal championship game.

Now, Year 9 of the Coach Richt Era with this coaching staff.

I would not say we have gotten better.

That we are on a roll.

That we are headed in the right direction.

That we have all the elements of a not Top 25, not Top 10, but better than that – Elite Football Program. We don’t have the Coaching Staff for an Elite Football Program. Are you really unable to see that ?