What we don’t know about the SEC East

TOny- Logan Gray is pure athlete at the QB position. Is Richt looking to get him into the game at QB some how? I’m assuming it’s Joe’s position to lose. If Richt had the balls to give Joe T. the reigns then he owes it to Joe Cox!!

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Dawgs will be fine on offense. Yes DE is a concern, both if we do not tackle better this year, nobody will have to throw the ball against us. I do not know where it will come from, but I do expect the Dawg Defense to play with more violence this year.

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Logan Gray is just too good of an athlete to keep off the field. You gotta believe Bobo is preparing a package for him. Vandy could be scary for a number of teams this year. Good for them as long as they don’t trip up my DAWGS. Both UGA and GT have to play at Vandy this year. Two years ago we escaped by the skin of our teeth.

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TN is a mess. Crappy o-line with NO QB, repeat NO QB. They will have a tough time this year. FL will be good, again, but OK showed that if you stop the run and make Tebow beat you with his arm, things are different. Dawgs will surprise a few people. Cox is not Tereshinski, and definitely has the skill. Complaints on Cox was that he could not throw as long as Stafford, but who cares. We need accuracy and completions. Most of Staffords long throws were garbage and never connected.

FL will be brought down a notch or two next year. Tebow cannot play forever, and without him FL will not be the same team plus it will be interesting to see them this year without Harvin.

No matter what, the SEC is still the best most exciting conference in the country.

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Florida in talent is the very best team easy in the SEC east or West. Georgia should come in 2nd place in the east behind the gators. Put the other teams in the east in a hat and pick 3-6 because
they all are average. Hope Vandy does well this season, Bobby Johnson is a real nice man and a real
good coach!!

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Will Kiffen repeat the NFL to CFB success of Charlie Weiss?

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Funny you don’t see Logan Gray as a full time starter, yet the UGA coaching staff does. This was the player of the year in Missouri coming out of high school. I personally watched him in the spring game last year and he has the talent to be an awesome QB. He may have stunted his QB growth by playing special teams last year. But, he is such a good athlete Richt wanted to put him on the field. he also wanted to do whatever helped the team win. Just because he is a good athlete, doesn’t mean he is not a good QB. He throws a pretty ball and I saw him laser in a 20-yd post to Mike Moore for a TD in last years G-Day game, in the rain.

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Miles,

Florida’s scoring average will go down. But, it may not matter because of their defense. I still think they are the best team in the SEC, but they’re offense will take a step back.

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My Dawgs will be better than last year, but will be 10-2 also this year. We need for 2-3 ’special” players to emerge on each side of the ball. I don’t think this year will be that year, But I like our young players, and I do feel the coach’s had an awful year last year and they know it. I think the team this year will be more intense, but I think we win 10 again. 2010 could be special, if we get one of these Freshman QB’s some game time.

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we were 9-3 this past year, not 10-2. the 10 came in the bowl game making us 10-3.

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Joe Cox is the starter today and, barring injury, will be the starter in the bowl game. With all due respect to Logan Gray, there is no amount of talent that can replace his experience and knowledge of the system. And I don’t know why people are so down on his talent anyway. He’s been SEC starter material from day one.

Florida is the hands down preseason #1 but they are not unbeatable and will not go undefeated. Its almost considered slanderous to say that Florida will lose a game (or more) in 2009, but they will. Repeating as national champion, or even SEC champion, is an extremely difficult thing to do. That’s why it rarely happens. As a Georgia fan, I’m hoping they buy in to their hype and get complacent. Its college football. It happens all the time. You have to wonder if they are doing extra reps in the weight room for all the points that Ole Miss scored on them? I bet they aren’t. Good luck with that target on your back Florida. I must admit that if anyone is equipped to deal with it its them.

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Speaking for the Dawgs…

Less we forget, Cox was a highly recruited QB out of high school. While not the cannon like Stafford, nor the athlete like Shockley, he is highly accurate as a passer. With a complete OL and time to pass, he’ll be fine. He adds an element that neither Stafford nor Shockley had, accuracy and finesse. Seems a man named Brady isn’t a cannon or athlete either. The offense will be fine…arguably better than 2008. I’ve seen King play personally, and if he can get it together, he’ll make your jaw drop. If not, we can platoon it amongst the stable of backs and still have an effective running game. I don’t expect the O to miss a beat.

Defense is a huge question mark. The only solid part are the linebackers. UGA’s D for 2008 was one of the worst I’ve seen in recent memory. The boys need an edge…and need it fast. There was a time when UGA’s D was fierce. They got after the QB and the secondary could knock the taste out of your mouth. Both were gone in 2008 and 2007. I trust the embarrassments of UA, UF and GT last year give Martinez all the ammunition he needs to get that edge back. He’s got one more year to show me something, or I’m on the bandwagon to fire Martinez as well.

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W.O. a DE and a can do attitude on D, the Dawgs are in for another so so year. The coaches have to infuse aggression into them all. Cox will lead and the running back “position” will be a tandem effort. I see FB Chapas being a real solid workhorse for them. He can do it all.

Cox can throw little down and out passes and the over the middle stuff to our receivers and they can take it to the house. With the guy from Memphis, the opposing D backs will not be able to double team AJ Green and it will hurt them. This is how I see Chapas being used ………… he will get his share of dump passes and it will pay dividends. He is a tank with great hands.

D is the key to a great season ……w.o. the ATTITUDE and AGGRESSION forget it. 9-3 or 10-2 is where we will be.

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Gatorzone -

not wanting to take anything away from UF’s win…but OkSt did show UF can be beat when forced to pass. While Tebow engineered some great drives, he’s not a highly accurate passer. But this isn’t news. The problem is stuffing the running game while still managing to restrict the passing game. OkSt couldn’t do this, so the game was close with UF winning (congrats BTW). If you’ll watch the first half of the UGA/UF game, you’ll see UGA’s D was doing this fairly well. If UGA doesn’t fall apart in the 2nd half, it’s a coin flip going into the final 2 minutes. (I know, “if”s and “but”s…but still). OkSt defense is average at best…their game plan was to stop the run and limit the score while hoping to beat UF on offense. But UF has a pretty good offense too.

FWIW, I’m won’t be betting on UF to repeat as SEC champs or National Champs. They’ve certainly got the talent and leadership to do it. But both will be undone by ego and high expectations. UF loses two. So you know, I said the same thing about my dawgs last year as well.

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Gatorzone:
A score of 7-7 at the half showed that a “mediocre defense” and that was what OK had could stop the gator run game. Tebow did have to throw it more, and did so against that defense which was ranked in the high 40’s nationally. Point is that against better defenses in SEC that will be tuned in to stopping Demps and Rainey, teams will take their chances on Tebow throwing. No, FL did not get beat, but also did NOT score as much as everyone thought.

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45-42…..yes I do. Now, you man up and tell me the Dawgs will beat you guys 8 of 10 times we play you, even with Johnson there. Because you KNOW we will. Not enough horsepower on the flats to beat us over and over.

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I certainly agree with Cameron’s comments concerning Logan Gray. Most people seem to forget what a talent he is. I believe Cox will do fine this year and Gray will win the job next year…

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[...] update.First, he lays out the known… then he delves into the unknown for each squad.You can read his full report right here, but here’s a summary of his unknowns:Florida — Will Florida really miss Percy [...]

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Ooops on typing OkSt…Fully aware that it’s OU. Only one cup of coffee this morning, so the brain’s still a bit foggy.

OU didn’t show the world how to beat UF. It was already known. Man up on the receivers and contain the run. Who cares if OU averaged 50+ points a game (even defenses that ranked in the bottom half of DivI)? Their D is still average at best. They didn’t have the talent to contain the run while still defending the pass. And even with an average at best D they gave themselves a chance by containing the run. So with that little fact, here’s what we know…any defense that can contain UF’s running game and still have the talent to go one on one on the receivers can be UF. Fortunately for UF, that’s a hard thing to come by.

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VANDY will be on everyone’s radar this year. They will not be overlooked any longer.

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It is so funny listening to these stupid leg humpers insisting that Tebow can’t throw after 3 years. The kid led the SEC in QB Efficiency rating last year and before the bowl game, only had 2 picks.

Jan Kemp was so right. UGA players and fans, can’t read, but they sure can yap, yap, yap. If you think Florida is going to be complacent this year, you don’t know Urban Meyer very well. Florida did just fine in the games that Harvin could not play, including the SEC championship game. Hey Leg Humpers! Remember Alabama?

Did you see what Florida’s defense did to the highest scoring offense in College Football History? The Oklahoma offense that averaged over 60 points a game? The offense everyone said that Florida could not stop?Well that defense has the entire 22 player 2-deep coming back.

And it was OK, not OKST that Florida played, you illiterate Dog fans. And please notice that I know how to spell DOG.

Diss Tebow’s passing all you want. For 3 years you have been saying he can’t throw, but he continues to lead the conference and definitely the East in QB ratings.

Georgia fans are just, so damn stupid.

“Let the Big Dog Read” -Jan Kemp, 1986

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Bryce Brown is the second coming of both Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson. And he’s about to stomp an orange hole through the SEC. Lane Kiffin is a better coach than Vince Dooley and Pat Dye combined. Brown on O and Berry on D, the Vols are gonna win the SEC!

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Not sure the assessment is really accurate. He may not be as talented DJ Shockley, but he’s still pretty damn capable of being a great College QB.

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Last time UF came off a championship and went 9-4, they lost every single starter on defense. At least act like you know what you are talking abpoiut before opening your mouth.

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Eric Zeier wannabe -

Thanks for making it personal. Glad you get to sleep better at night knowing you put us leg-humpers in our place on the internet.

It’s pretty obvious your knowledge of the game is limited to name calling and tailgating.

Passing efficiency means squat in Meyer’s offense. When 99% of your passes are within 10 yards to receivers with GREAT hands, your numbers are going to be good. Tebow’s passing numbers are inflated by the talent around him. That’s not taking anything from Tebow. I absolutely believe he’s one of the best QBs to play at the college level. His leadership and sheer athleticism makes him a phenomenal player. He should have won the Heisman last year and proved it in the BCS game.

Answer this, if he’s such a great passer, how come no one (of credibility and football knowledge – as such excludes you) actually believes he’ll be a QB at the professional level. He won’t. He’ll be a TE or FB. He likely won’t even be a first round draft pick. He’s not a passing QB. Why is that hard for most Gators to accept? Yeah, he’s made a couple great plays over the years, but day in and day out, his days of taking snaps will be confined to college.

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Kiffin has proven nothing as a head coach. NOTHING. 5-15 with the Raiders…and a second year that was making out to be worse than the first.

He was a pretty decent OC at USC under Pete’s shadow. But it’s the PAC-10. I just doubt he’s going to have that same success playing the caliber of defense he’ll play almost weekly in the SEC. But who knows?

I’m not saying he’ll fail. I’m just saying he’s done absolutely NOTHING to warrant the “Savior” title the Vol nation has given him. The only thing he’s proven is he can run his mouth, and even that seems to be lacking. He’s created some excitement and the Vols certainly needed that. But I’ll wait until he’s coached a few before declaring him better than already proven coaches.

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The Illiterate ChewDawg said “Answer this, if he’s such a great passer, how come no one (of credibility and football knowledge – as such excludes you) actually believes he’ll be a QB at the professional level.”

The answer is Bill Belichick. I will bet you your mortgage, (if it is not in foreclosure) that Belichick drafts Tebow in the first round. If you know how to use Google, just look up Belichick and Tebow for the answer to your question.

“Let the Leg Humpers Read” – Jan Kemp, 1986

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And I am not an Eric Zeier wannabe! That loser was 0-4 against Florida.

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Tebow not a highly accurate passer? What do the delusional UGA fans base that opinion upon? Tebow was the most accurate passer in the SEC last year.

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Let the illiterates from Athens bash UF all they want. 17 losses out of the last 20 and a losing record to Florida since 1950 (which includes the Dooley years) says it all. They will crow about their wins in the 20’s and 30’s which was 80 years ago, but they are the only ones who really care.

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Calm down UGA. You guys are the “top” team of the second tier of the SEC. You should be glad about that.
Like the infamous words of Spurrier…
“Heck, its just Georgia.”

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Eric Zeier- if UGA fans can’t read then Fla. fans can’t punctuate. You have WAY too many commas in your post. It, makes, it hard, to, read. Tebow is far from an accomplished passer. Game manager? Excellent! Make no mistake though, he works his arm off of his legs. How else do you think his famed backyard jump pass works?!?! He’s projected as a 2nd – 3rd round TE for crying out loud!!!

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What do you get when you mate Urban Meyer with Tim Tebow?

nothing, but that doesn’t stop Urban from trying

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Eric Zeier Wannabe -

As you’ve donned his name, I can only assume.

And the more you talk, the more you confirm that you know very little, if anything about football. Tebow isn’t a first round pick. Period. Not as a QB nor as a TE. Belichick isn’t going to waste a first round pick on a hunch that the wildcat formation could make a comeback in the NFL. Maybe a second or third round pick, but not his first. Especially when he’s winning rings left and right with Brady. Several coaches are talking about the wildcat formation, but none are committing to it. And none are going to gamble their first round pick on a chance it might work. Write it down and be ready next spring when you have to swallow your pride and accept you don’t really know anything about football except for what somebody else wrote in an article.

And betting my mortgage doesn’t seem really fair…I’m pretty sure the mortgage on my home is a good bit higher than the payment on your double wide.

To the rest of the Gator Nation (at least those with more sense that the wannabe), is it really an insult to say Tebow isn’t a great passer? It doesn’t take anything from him as a player. It’s just what it is.

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Here, UGA ladies, read this and weep:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/tim_layden/01/13/tebow/

The scary unwritten aspect of this article is that the NFL will inevitably come looking for a coach who can translate this offense to the pros and it’s good-bye Urban.

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UGA fans just wish that they could compete in Jacksonville more than 3 or 4 times every 20 years.
Keep pretending that it is a real “rivalry.” Just like dawg fans ridicule Tech for losing 8 in a row. UGA is almost as competitive with Florida as Tech is with Georgia!

HAHAHAHA!!!!

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3. Determination – There’s not a single player in the NFL who will tell you that they weren’t “determined” to help their team reach the playoffs. But 20 of those teams were sitting at home watching the wild card round. Talk is cheap. Real determination is converting 11 thirds downs in the national championship game after tossing two picks. Tebow converted three of those in the second half with his legs. He converted seven through the air, including the game’s first touchdown. Down three to top ranked Alabama with a national championship berth on the line, Tebow stepped up and went 5 for 5 for 72 yards and a touchdown in the fourth quarter to seal the win. That’s not talking about determination. That’s living it.

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1. Accuracy – Which brings me to the final knock on Tebow’s prospect rating. His accuracy. Somehow, despite the jaw-dropping third-down conversions, despite all the passing yards, despite having the fourth best passer rating in the country NFL draft pundits still say
the biggest problem with Tim Tebow achieving success at the next level is his accuracy, or lack thereof. These guys must not have watched the SEC championship game where Tebow tossed dart after dart at the bullseye on his receivers chests. Maybe they missed those winning throws to Louis Murphy and Riley Cooper and David Nelson in Miami. No one has a problem with Matt Stafford’s accuracy. Over the last three years Stafford has notched completion percentages of 52.7, 55.7, and 61.4. His best isn’t even as accurate as Tebow’s worst. In three seasons Tebow has completed 66.7, 66.9, and 64.4 percent of his throws. He has a career touchdown to interception ratio of 67-11. That’s better than Sam Bradford who has a draft-attractive total of 86-16. Where’s the accuracy problem? Maybe it’s the fact that the football often looks more like Daffy Duck fired from a cannon than a Nerf Vortex. Well Chris Leak threw one hell of a spiral. Where is he? Buried behind super quarterbacks Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman on the Chicago Bears’ depth chart. The last two Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have thrown more than their share of ducks. But the point isn’t what the ball looks like on its way to the receiver, it’s that it gets there. Tebow’s passes get there. That’s what completion percentage measures – accuracy.

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This bears repeating…

No one has a problem with Matt Stafford’s accuracy. Over the last three years Stafford has notched completion percentages of 52.7, 55.7, and 61.4. His best isn’t even as accurate as Tebow’s worst. In three seasons Tebow has completed 66.7, 66.9, and 64.4 percent of his throws.

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And again…

No one has a problem with Matt Stafford’s accuracy. Over the last three years Stafford has notched completion percentages of 52.7, 55.7, and 61.4. His best isn’t even as accurate as Tebow’s worst. In three seasons Tebow has completed 66.7, 66.9, and 64.4 percent of his throws.

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Wally- 10,9,3??? Skipped a few numbers didn’t you?? Get back to work!!

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The Gators will be good and anybody who says different is sticking their head in the sand. As for the Dawgs, as Tony says they have to come up with some people to put pressure on the opposing QB. If so, and one of our running backs steps up, we will be all right. There won’t be any easy touches in the East. Everything you get(win), you are going to have to get it the old fashioned way. You are going to have to EARN it!

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I guess I’ll just have to accept that most Gator fans are all knowing. Oddly, the only people that ever argue for Tebow being an excellent passer are Gator fans. I guess the pro scouts and coaches don’t know what they’re talking about either. I’m glad I’m in good company.

I’ll be glad to reverse my thinking if any of you can show me a single pro who wants Tebow because he’s a great passer. You can’t. Case closed. They want him because of his athletic ability. Even those who envision him in the wildcat formation see him as an adequate (read as decent but not good) pass with great hands and legs. Sounds like a TE to me.

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Cameron, re:

“Rainey, Demps, Thompson, and James are cute, little, fast guys. They can make big impacts in the passing game and special teams. But, good teams shut those guys down.”

those ‘cute’ guys didn’t get into the offense until arkansas game. i won’t focus on how many yds they had against the razorbacks, because you’ll just say they weren’t a good team (but they both went over 100 yds). they combined for 190+ yds against LSU. KY had the top defense in the SEC at the time, and Demps had 117 total yds vs them. UGA, like arky, not a good team, won’t waste your time there. vandy…they avg 5 yds/carry, but like arky/UGa, crapbox team. South Carolina, they avg 9+ yds/carry, against at the time the best D in the SEC. against FSU, a top 5 D in nation, they ran for 180 yds combined, avg 11 yds/carry. against bama, demps went for 50 yds and a TD.

yes, neither of those guys are Percy, and I don’t believe they can do it on their own, but with Moody and Tebow running, too, they will continue to be a great change of pace and will have a big impact on the running game for FL. If you take out harvin’s rushing yds out of last year’s totals, FL still rushed for 50+ more yds/game than UGA.

Chewdog, re:

“Answer this, if he’s such a great passer, how come no one (of credibility and football knowledge – as such excludes you) actually believes he’ll be a QB at the professional level. He won’t. He’ll be a TE or FB. He likely won’t even be a first round draft pick. He’s not a passing QB. Why is that hard for most Gators to accept? Yeah, he’s made a couple great plays over the years, but day in and day out, his days of taking snaps will be confined to college.”

guess what? fortunately for FL and Tebow, teams like UGA don’t have eleven NFL caliber defensive players…i know, it’s crazy! (some would argue they don’t have one, but that’s not my point) Tebow will continue to do what he has done the last few years against the best defenses in COLLEGE football, including throw all the 10 yd throws, the 67 TD *PASSES*, compoleting 2/3 of his throws, etc, etc. Anyone that thinks he can’t throw the deep ball against college compeition is blind or an idiot. And oh yeah, Matt Stafford, the #1 NFL prospect from the 2008 preseason national champs, only threw 51 TD passes in his entire career…tebow almost RUSHED for more than that, and he only started for 2 seasons! I LOVE the “tebow won’t make it in the NFL arguments” from Florida’s college rivals….WHO CARES? I don’t care that Peyton is the best QB of all time (well, #2 after Stafford)…i care that Danny W was undefeated against him! thank god when tebow graduates folks will have to move on to some other lame “argument”.

Gotta love the offseason…same every year, Dogs yapping and yapping, non-stop. 17 out of 20 (!), here we come.

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The defense needs to step up this year. Tackle better. More attitude. All so true. All attainable. The majority of improvement in those areas will be from pure reps in practise hopefully at full speed this year. DE is a matter of finding one. I think there are several candidates. And eventualy, at least able to rotate at that position, unlike last year.

But its worth pointing out that the offense can help the defense a boat load more than they did last year. The constants in all of the worst stretches last year were horribled position, TO and an inability to line it up and grind out 3 yrds when it was absolutely critical. That too should be improved this year. Not as much flash, but more control from the offense I would think would cure a lot of the ill’s on both side.

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ChewDawg : When CMR came to Athens, he was following in the footsteps of Goof and Dunn’em in. The UGA fanbase was upbeat and more than that, hopeful. Sure, some Vol fans are raving about the future, but it’s all based on Hope and/or Change. I fall into the Hope catagory because I wasn’t one clamouring for Change. I just wanted Clawson tossed into the river. That SonofaGun took a peice of Rocky Top down with him…

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Hey Eric Zier….I’m not sure you want to talk about Jan Kemp….have you ever heard Lawrence March speak….he can’t even put a sentence together. Georgia didn’t even recruit him because his grades were so low.How did he even qualify to go to Florida? Everyone in his hometown of Augusta,Ga.is still trying to figure it out. Half your team is made up of “student athlete’s” who can barely talk or read and are only staying qualified to play because Urban Crier has got them all in a cream puff major with 24 hour a day help. This will all soon be exposed by ESPN ….and Urban will be gone. Count on it.

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Who cares about UF? Who cares if UF beats UGA in Jacksonville? At the end of the day the UF fans have to go to work on Monday cleaning the toilets, making beds, cooking meals and Retrieving cars for all the vacationing UGA fans, Grads and current students. Face it UF, life as a dawg is a damn site better than life a subservient gator. I mean UF isn’t the most popular school in your own state, FSU even in down years holds that title. And as far as being a leg humper, I’ll take that 6 days a week and twice on Sunday to being a bottom feeding swamp lizard, whose claim to fame is being the main material for wallets, belts and shoes! The fact that you idiots proudly proclaim your devotion to UF is more telling to your lack of intelligence, than any other. Look at me I wear prison orange, jorts and a mullet; I’m Es Em Are Tee! Jeezz, shadup and I might tip you for parking my Benz.

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Percy Harvin was the best player in college football. Believe me they will miss him. Rainey, Demps, James….they don’t compare to Harvin. Florida is going to get a wake up call the next two years, this one without Harvin and the next without TT. The only thing that saves them this year is their schedule is a joke.

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Tony, Is Isreal Troupe going to finally step up and compete, or is this position wide open? Also what is the status of Donte Jackson?

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Ole Dawg,

Everyone knows that UF is notorious for steering almost all the football players into the 3 easiest majors. Almost the whole team is sociology, criminal justice, or poly sci majors. But even if ESPN does a report about the practice of steering and how some colleges like UF make a mockery of the student athlete concept what does it matter? Everyone may know that they’re really just fielding a minor league pro football team but so what!

Steering is not against the rules and until the ncaa says you can’t put almost all of your athletes into 3 easy majors under 1 dept. there really is no point in complaining about it. It is what it is and if the university is not truly looking out for the “student athlete’s” best interest then its up to that athlete to change his major after a year or 2 to something more challenging or transfer.

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“I wouldn’t care if Florida won the nat’l championship every year, you couldn’t pay me to pull for those classless loud mouths! And yes, I am sure it’s safe to say that I speak for 99% of the SEC!”

It is safe to say that Florida fans are glad you are not a Gator either.

Win/win

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Haven’t heard from the Eric Zeier Wannabe lately, but I did notice that my trash got picked up at the curb a little while ago. He must have had to go to work.

He’s probably a Tech grad who forgot about Tech’s academic probation for playing ineligible players. I wonder if he’s the one who painted himself yellow and wore the white fairy wings to the Jackette’s home games for a few years. If so, I hope the county won’t let him drive the truck.

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Again, all you Tebow experts need to read the article below.
Toebow may very well represent the next evolution in pro offenses:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/tim_layden/01/13/tebow/

Oh, and GO GATORS!

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2) LSU in Death Valley – LSU fans will be going berserk.
3) UGA – as always

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Bama12 -

Unfortunately these things don’t have an edit function. Otherwise, I would correct my second post where I said Tebow wasn’t an accurate passer. I had originally wrote, “While highly accurate on the stat sheet, Tebow isn’t a true passing QB.” I made some edits and made the mistake of hitting the submit button before reading my comments over. My mistake, it made me look foolish, and I take full responsibility for it. Lesson learned.

I stand by my argument that Tebow’s accuracy, efficiency, and rating are all a product of Meyer’s offense. He’s the perfect QB for that setup. Take him and put him in a pro-style setup and it’s a safe bet to say his numbers fall of the cliff.

To pacify the blind Gator loyalists:
Tebow is one of the best athletes I’ve ever seen take the field. His spot among the top 3 college football QBs is without question. His leadership to his team and his work on and off the field speak accolades for his character. I admire the kid and wish nothing but the best for him. I hope he has a successful NFL career.

But here’s what I know:
Tebow, while an excellent player – one of the best in college FB, is not, and is not likely to ever be, a great passing QB. Save the reemergence of the wildcat offense or the complete redesign of his passing style, his success in the NFL will come at another position. It’s not a flaw. It’s just who he is.

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Who cares? Tebow is the BEST QB/Football player in college!

What he does in the pros is irrellevant. Just like what Stafford does in the pros vs. what he did at UGA.
It does not matter, the only relevence to college football is what they do in college.

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I’ll go on record saying that I personally think Tebow has the drive, the determination, the competitive spirit that rivals only Colt McCoy. Matter of fact, my two preseason finalists for the Heisman are the afore mentioned…and McCoy does missionary work just like Tebow, but I don’t know if he peels bananas…

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General, if you recall prior to last season I tried to explain that no matter how you spell it a Clawson/Clausen could not win at UT. I hate being right.

David, to make that Samford argument against Bowden I say that those 31 victories should count double. Samford? Football? Really?

IF Tebow stays healthy the entire season then the Gators will be the SEC champs again. IF he stays 2/3rds healthy they will likely repeat and probably repeat as NC’s. And yes it does pain me to say that.

As far as that Leydan artilce goes? Ahhhh, a big NO on that one. The reasons are explained in the article. Yes Tebow is (depending on how this season turns out) one of the best college QB’s to ever play the game. The NFL is made up of the best of the best players on defense and every single one of them looks to pound the guy carrying the ball. So that O with Tebow won’t translate to the big time. He might get a few plays in with the “Wildgator” offense, but to sustain it IMO not even Tebow can do that.

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Gen Neyland:

“but I don’t know if he peels bananas…”

Priceless!

Laughing My ( ! ) Off!

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Mutts and gaytors beware! Tech is the new beast of the east. Josh the Robot Nesbot will shut all this Tebow talk up. Mark my words. We win the ACC and the BCS THIS year. The title comes back to Hotlanta! LOL!

You guys can argue all you want but the truth is that the LSWho (burn!) game was fluke and doesn’t represent the Tech offense. We roll this year with a better Oline, better backs and better schedule.

Oh yeah…. Ping! That’s the sound of the #3 baseball team in the nation! LOL!

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zoo : You sir, did make that prediction. I remembered it all of 2008. BTW, I have MSU meeting up with Louisville.

G8R Grad : Thank you, thank you very much…

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…and as I return to the yard duties of the unemployed, somebody tell me what Alabama has that is gonna pick up the torch John Bubba Parker Wilson left behind..? or will Tony hit on that tomorrow..?

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anyone on here who picks any team other than UF to win the east is nothing but a blind homer. UF should run the table in the east and win going away, having said that despite the fact that I can’t stand Urban Cryer, T-bag or any other gator…

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just givin’ credit where credit is due

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Florida will miss Percy Harvin, for as much as Tim Tebow has revolutionized his position, so did Percy! So much in fact he has invented a position at Fla that will probably will be called the “Percy Harvin position” until someone else like him comes along…and that could be soon if Andre Debose is as good as advertised. All that being said, expect the Gators to average a few less points (with the exception being the Tenn game) than last year BUT expect the defense to be one of the best if not THE best who ever donned the orange and royal blue.

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General, I won’t make any predicts on UT this year till some games are played. No telling what is in that coconut of Kiffins. Scary or scary smart? MSU is my adopted team (till UGA gets a D1 mens team) and I ran a couple of brackets with them going all the way. However, the big ten tourney didn’t give me any confidence that that would be a good bet but I picked them anyway.

Baba, can’t argue with you on that.

Atlanta Jackets must be a chemistry major. Straight A’s at that. Only if he could sell that stuff he takes over the counter…

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gatoesam:

“The team that will win the East is the team that has the least injuries and the most luck, period.”

That may be, but my money’s on the team with the least injuries, the most luck, the entire national champion defense returning (two deep) and more offensive weapons (including a Heisman winning QB) than you can shake a stick at!

GO GATORS!

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I am with you on that one G8R GRAD!!!!!

Oh, and TIMEOUT!!!!

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Be interesting to see if the Bulldogs have gotten over the blowout, er….blackout affair. Over & under odds on how many times Richt pulls the black jersey stunt in 2009.

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I believe that Cornelius Washington will be the answer at DE. I know him and trust me he is a beast so i can’t wait to see him get his chance. Joe Cox will be a great QB for Georgia this year while they train Aaron Murray who is sure to take over in 2010. One position that Georgia really needs to address is kickoffs, i think Blair Walsh is going to be great at field goals but as far as kickoffs go Georgia needs to figure it out but all in all i think this season is going to be great i think Georgia is looking at at least 11 wins and Georgia has a bye week the week before the Florida game just like in 2007 so maybe that will help us again

GO DAWGS!!!!

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Atlanta Jackets:

Last year UF ranked 8th in the top D-1 programs in the nation for graduating football players AT 68%.

Georgia Tech tied (with UGA, oddly enough) for 24th at 48%

Those who live in glass houses, . . . .

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Cox is a better passer than Shockley.

The Dawgs did nothing to better their coaching, or lack thereof, on the def side of the ball. Not only is Jancek the worst LB coach Georgia has EVER had, but they promoted him to co-DC.

Geez.

Bobo better be all that, cuz we’re gonn have to score in the 40s every freakin’ game.

C’mon, CMR, make the call and get us a DC.

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Hey AJC readers and “commentators”…do you remember just a couple of years ago when 98% of you here were posting comments that all Tebow was was a runner and couldn’t throw the ball? That he was just a compliment to Chris Leak and would struggle as a starter??? Some of you said he would’nt even eventually be the starter! Boy, you guys sure were right on that one too! I made a comment here about how Tebow had broken all the Fla high school records for passing and I got RIDICULED(!) because “that was high school” So I’m gonna try this one more time…Tim Tebow will not only make a great pro…he will revolutionize the QB position in the NFL!!! So come on, one more time…so let’s here it…

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JCMC:

Hear,hear!

Tebow personifies the evolution of the QB postion in college AND the next level.

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G8R GRAD- There was a post somewhere at the top explaining how UF athletes are pushed into majoring in the top 3 easiest majors offered at UF. That might expain why 68% actually graduate.

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Bama12,
When passing numbers are measured, they don’t take into account the distance the ball travels in the air…just total yds gained on the play. They don’t take into account the offensive system either. The point has been made that Tebow’s passes are to speedy WR’s and are mostly short. His yardage numbers are inflated because of that. As for passing efficiency, again, is inflated by this fact.

I’ve seen him play and I don’t think he will be great at the next level. What’s more important, football experts have seen him play too. Very few of them are projecting him as a big time NFL QB. This is not a biased UGA fan saying this stuff. If UF fans can’t see that, they certainly shouldn’t be calling anyone else “biased”.

Tebow is a great college QB. That doesn’t make him NFL material. It is a simple fact.

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I don’t care what Tebow or Stafford or any other QB does in the pros. I follow college ball and don’t care for pro ball that much. With that in mind any UGA fan that can not give Tebow his props just makes their post that much less credible. Tebow is a fantastic person and one of the all time great college players along with the likes of Herschel and Bo. I can’t help but root for Tebow as a player and a person, except when he plays UGA.
I will go out on a limb and say Cox will have better stats than Stafford. Completion %, winning % and season yardage will all be higher for Cox than Stafford. UGA will have a better season than last year and will push UF for the East. UF is and should be the odds on favorite and like someone said they are not unbeatable. The key to beating them is just like any other team, control the line of scrimmage and score more points than they do. It ain’t rocket science, just a lot harder to do on UF than most others. UGA will have the same opportunity to do this as any other team and in the end the best team will win. GO DAWGS.

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Barrie,

I never said Tebow would be a great pro qb because I don’t think he will. I also don’t think he will revolutionize the qb position as some people think. I was merely making the point that the guy is very accurate. You do have a point that he does throw a lot of short passes that his WRs can turn into long gainers. But you could say that about a lot of great qbs in the past, especially the ones like Steve Young who ran a west coast offense with a lot of passing to RBs out of the backfield, essentially a short passing game that is similar to a running game. I think Tebow is somewhere in between what people of all stripes think. He has a stronger arm and is more accurate than a lot of people give him credit for. On the other hand there is no way in my mind that this one guy is going to revolutionize the pros. They would eat him for lunch and bang him up week after week if he tried to run the same type of offense with the same relative number of carries in the pros as what he did in college. Plus the talent is a lot more evenly spread throughout the pros. At UF he has the added benefit of playing against very few teams who will line up with the same relative amount of talent that UF has. Some people think he’s the greatest qb ever that will revolutionize the position. Some people think he is vastly overrated and like a lot of pro scouts he would be lucky to be picked in the 3rd round as a qb. The truth is probably somewhere in between.

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Man, I knew this would be deja vu all over again…you same wise doubters are back. “Tebow will never make it against the fast, angry SEC defenses, he won’t last a game, he can’t throw long, he won’t be able to read defenses, he can’t do this he can’t do that. I would not bet against Tim Tebow because that is exactly what fuels his fire, you might as well go ahead and throw plutonion into a nuclear reactor! Of course he’s not going to run in the pros like he does in college, but he will if its there. I think this year you will see him a bit more in the pocket and evolve his game like he did last year. And for those people who say he can only throw the short ball to speedy receivers you better go roll that tape again! Besides, isn’t that about all they do in the pros anyway, I see A LOT MORE of the long ball in college! And as far as all of those NFL “experts” and pundits…well if you go back and check, it seems they’re predictions are about as good as yours!!

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THATS WHAT YOU HOPE BUT WE WILL NOT MISS P.H BANK ON THAT

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What does it say about UGA when they have so many players drafted, yet don’t make a habit of winning the SEC, much less the MNC ?

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In eight years CMR has had us in the SECC three times. Before CMR, no appearances in the SECC. I think we got it right. Go soak your shirt Thomas.

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What we do know: Georgia will lose to Florida again in Jacksonville.

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Bama 12 TITLES-You seem like a pretty smart guy unlike Bama Stan who is a stupid jackass.The thing Bama Stan forgets to mention in that game is UGA came right back and scored 30 points.We Georgia people could say Louisiana-Monroe-Utah embarrasing beatdown and humiliating the SEC in the sugar bowl-cronic probation a million other things.Bama Stan also seems to have gotten in bed with Tennesee and that rogue hillbilly coaching staff.If you are a really a Bama fan you would find it next to impossible to say anything nice about Tenn.Fulmer basically took a year off of coaching to make it a personal crusade to dig up all the dirt on Alabama himself and report it himself.Many SEC coaches knew what Bama was doing for years but Fulmer made it a point to stick it to BAMA and nearly got them the death penalty missing by one vote I am told.The thing Bama Stan always leaves out is that he is wrong about almost everything he has ever said.The funny thing about this is Alabama being a habitual violator in the eyes of the SEC it is Tennesee that will be the next SEC team on probation.The recruitment of Bryce Brown is just the tip of the ice-berg.NCAA are taking thier time with this one and could be around 10 months before the details emerge.Bama Stan seems to be obsessed with everything Georgia instead of being on a tide message board.He seems especially obsessed with Joe Cox who will be just fine instead of worrying about Alabamas QB.To be honest, besides Fla and Ole Miss all SEC QB’S are basically unproven.Bama Stan needs to let the people of the south forget about the sugar bowl game before he makes anymore predictions.To keep putting 31-0 at the half after Tides sugar bowl game is very ignorant.Bama Stan next time put the 2nd half score of the game also you always seem to forget that one.

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If your not a GATOR your a HATER .

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G8R GRAD—-The graduation rate stats that you posted from USA Today only reflected the graduation rates among the top 25 teams in the Coaches Poll for that particular week. The Gators 68% graduation rate actually places them in the to 25% of all 117 Division I football schools. Georgia Tech’s 48% graduation rate places them in the bottom third of all Division I schools, and dead last in the ACC.

Atlanta Jackets—-Thanks for playing, but for a predominantly engineering school, there seem to be damn few engineering majors among the Tech football team’s scholarship athletes, and an awfully high number of liberal arts and so-called “business” majors. And anyway you slice it, your football team’s graduation rate is an embarrassment to an otherwise outstanding academic institution. Furthermore, if Tech does not improve its APR soon, it is likely to begin feeling the pain of NCAA scholarship reductions soon, and suffer the ridicule of your fellow ACC schools. Get informed, son, before you hurt someone with your ignorance.

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Ole Dawg you say Bama has an unproven QB but explain to us how LSU does since you imply they will beat Bama – since Saban has been at Bama it has always been a close game even when Bama has less depth and talent than LSU in 07 LSU wins by a touchdown and in 08 Bama wins in OT by a touchdown.Jefferson(LSU’s QB) does not have alot of SEC QB experiance.McElroy has been the back-up QB and has been in Saban’s system for 2 years and can run the offense.LSU does not have a proven SEC QB yet.Did you miss McElroy’s beautiful touchdown pass in the Iron Bowl against Auburn? Roll Tide!

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