Updated: Talks continue, fans still planning to attend Thrashers’ select-a-seat event

By Chris Vivlamore and Tim Tucker

It may be the 11th hour, but some Atlanta hockey fans are clinging to hope.

With the Atlanta Spirit ownership group deep into negotiations to sell the Thrashers to True North Sports and Entertainment, which would move the franchise to Winnipeg, current and prospective season-ticket holders plan to attend a select-a-seat event here Saturday.

“Our select-a-seat event will take place as planned at Philips Arena,” Thrashers president Don Waddell said Friday.

Team officials and owners declined to comment on the negotiations with the Winnipeg group.

One person familiar with the negotiations, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the fluid and sensitive situation, said no agreement had been reached as of Friday afternoon but that talks and progress continued. The person said complex issues were being hammered out and that it’s difficult to predict when a deal might be completed.

Talks also continued with a prospective buyer willing to keep the team in Atlanta, but indications were that the sale to the Winnipeg group could happen as early as next week.

The Canadian Press reported that Winnipeg Mayor Sam Katz said Friday that although nothing is signed, sealed or delivered yet, there is an understanding the relocation “is going to happen” and it is just “a matter of time” before a deal is announced.

The Thrashers organization continues to operate. In fact, at least one new season ticket was sold Friday. The select-a-seat event will be run by ticket representatives with no team executives, coaches or players in attendance. The event will  coincide with a gathering of Thrashers fans at the gulch area outside the arena.

For some, the seat event will be a chance to show support.

“We are going about it like business as usual in hopes there is still a season,” said Charlie Clarke. “It seems like the writing is on the wall, but you look at other situations like in Sacramento with the [NBA’s] Kings. The fan base thought it was over. and something happened to keep the team.

“There is no reason now not to go. I know it’s a bit of a tease, but I’m holding out that .001 percent chance.”

Others see it as an opportunity to walk down memory lane.

“I’ll be going to the event, but I’m treating it at it as if I’m going to a funeral,” said Brett Lang, who described himself as a season-ticket holder since Day One. “I will go sit in the seats that my friends, family, and I enjoyed for the 11 seasons, quietly reflect on the good times, and say farewell just like a funeral.”

For one Thrashers fan, the chances of losing the team were enough to make him change his plans to attend the season- ticket event. Darren Schuster had planned to attend as a show of support.

“When I think about how much I put into this team and how much I got back, it’s pathetic,” Schuster said. “You can’t blame the fans. When the team was spending money and winning, the fans showed up.”

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman was informed of the fan gathering on his weekly call-in radio show, broadcast Thursday night on satellite radio and the Internet, by a Thrashers fan.

“It will be interesting to see how many people show up at the rally on Saturday,” Bettman said.

The caller also told Bettman that the Thrashers drew impressive crowds in their first five seasons and attributed recent attendance problems to ownership that has not put a competitive team on the ice.

“I understand that there may be dissatisfaction there, but demonstrating your dissatisfaction by not going to games is an interesting strategy,” Bettman said. “It’s your absolute right. But if it becomes a turnoff for anybody who might want to buy the franchise, the long-term consequences could be severe.”

Bettman vigorously denied that a deal is done to move the Thrashers. “I can tell you that with certainty,” he said. But he did not rule out the possibility and telegraphed what likely will be the NHL’s position if relocation occurs: that no qualified buyer was willing to own and operate the team in Atlanta.

“The decision as to whether or not to move a club doesn’t come out of looking at two markets and saying, ‘This market would be better than that market,’” Bettman said. “We try to keep our clubs where they are. And if it is ultimately determined that a club has to move, generally the reason . . . is because nobody wants to own a team there anymore, nobody wants to fund the losses.”

The Thrashers’ owners have been seeking a buyer or investors for two years, and have said since February that they face a “sense of urgency” to shed the team’s operating losses, one way or another.  The owners have contended in court documents that the team has lost $130 million since 2005.

“The key to this may be, in the final analysis, whether or not somebody wants to own the team in Atlanta,” Bettman said. “In the absence of either the current ownership group continuing to own and operate or somebody stepping forward who wants to buy the club, that becomes the situation that concerns us or any sports league.

“We’ll only leave a market … if we have to,” Bettman said.

Making a deal to sell, let alone relocate, a team is a complex process involving the buyer, the seller and the NHL, each represented by groups of  lawyers and financial advisors.

Atlanta Spirit and True North would have to complete a purchase-and-sale agreement. True North and the NHL would have to complete an “undertaking” agreement, spelling out the buyer’s commitments to the league. The parties would have to agree on how much of the money paid by True North would go to the NHL, rather than to the Spirit, as a relocation fee.

It is believed True North would pay as much as $170 million for the team, with $60 million going to the NHL and $110 million to the Spirit.

Ultimately, the NHL Board of Governors, which consists of one representative from each team, would have to vote to ratify a sale and relocation. A 75-percent vote is required to approve a new owner, and a majority vote is required to approve a relocation.

Here’s an indication of the complexities involved: When the Atlanta Spirit bought the Hawks and Thrashers in 2004, each member of the then-new ownership group had to sign his name 372 times on documents that filled six binders, each about six inches thick.

*** Thanks  to all the fans who responded to my request and those I talked to but couldn’t fit into the story. I appreciate your help and your passion.

553 comments Add your comment

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:02 am

Calgary, larger city, bigger building, better hockey fans = loses money

Edmonton, larger city, bigger building, better hockey fans = loses money

Ottawa, larger city, bigger building, better hockey fans = loses money

Loserpeg = no chance of being successful..

Pegger8

May 22nd, 2011
12:03 am

Thanks puck, it will be good for the league as well. I’ve never been to Atlanta but do know the 50 banner burners, and the few on here don’t speak for or represent the majority of Thrasher fans. It does suck to lose a team, and I do feel for those real fans.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:07 am

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2010/12/8/1536097/nhl-relocation-winnipeg-quebec-city

Putting a team in such a tiny poor market would be a HUGE embarrassment for the NHL..

Big Wally

May 22nd, 2011
12:10 am

Pegger8. Funny how my explanation was lame excuses, but your excuses just seems to be “the stars were aligned against us”. Face it, you want to just come on here and rub the Thrasher fans faces in it. You say you feel our pain, but then blast the fans. What do you expect there Einstein?. To come on here and bash us and our city and not expect it returned? Be glad your getting another team, now STFU.

Big Wally

May 22nd, 2011
12:19 am

G52, hold on, your nurse will be back in a few minutes to give you your meds.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:22 am

Loserpeg trolls like to impersonate people who matter because they are meaningless on their own..

:-(

Gary Bettman

May 22nd, 2011
12:26 am

Oh look, now I am Gary Bettman..

Big Wally

May 22nd, 2011
12:26 am

At least mine comes home…………

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:26 am

I’m wondering if you stupid peggers fools are as sure the Thrashers are moving to loserpeg as you were the Coyotes were moving there..

Big Wally

May 22nd, 2011
12:29 am

Leave Pegger 8 out of this.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:30 am

If I had a dollar for every time I have heard some stupid snow monkey say, “Done deal”, I’d be RICH..

Other than begging the province to free up some cash nobody has heard a word from TNSE..

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:30 am

Do all snow monkeys beg for cash, or just the billionaires..

Big Wally

May 22nd, 2011
12:31 am

It’s a done deal. Oh well at least we have a minor league team here stll. Come to think of it, Winnerpeg is getting a minor league team as well.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:32 am

Dress you up in a cute little Tux with a Top hat, how could the province say no..

G52PlM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:33 am

yeah, stick to supporting the braves

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:34 am

“Winnerpeg is getting a minor league team”

Loserpeg will probably not show up for the new minor league team either, the Moose play to less than 50% capacity..

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:35 am

If loserpeg does get an NHL team, it will be fun to watch it crash and burn..

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:44 am

Phoenix has a better chance of supporting two teams than loserpeg has of supporting one..

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:48 am

Yotes have no owner. Winnipeg will be my bitch on Tuesday.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:51 am

Living in my trailer in Glendale sucks. I can’t afford running water.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:52 am

Another day loserpeg is all excited about that will more than likely come and go uneventfully, like all the rest..

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:55 am

My team has no owner.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
12:57 am

Your stupid little city has no team..

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
1:01 am

No place in Canaduh is “better” than ANYWHERE is the U.S.A..

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
1:01 am

I got laid off from walmart……..arizona’s largest employer

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
1:02 am

Underage prostitution, loserpeg’s biggest employer..

Les Habitants

May 22nd, 2011
1:08 am

Anders Helberg et phxismybitch, est-ce que vous vraiment parlez français?

J’essayais communiquer mes opinions à façon logique et courtois. Néanmoins, les gens ici sont très émotionnels et adolescents.

Bon, je voudrais souhaiter la nouvelle équipe de Winnipeg (les anciens Thrashers) la bonne chance et dire le bienvenue à la septième équipe canadienne de la Ligue Nationale.

Keep Hockey in Atlanta

May 22nd, 2011
1:15 am

Wow someone must be really bored to be filling up almost an entire comment page on their own.

Atlanta

May 22nd, 2011
1:15 am

Someone ban that ahole already

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
1:17 am

Banning my little impostor/stalker would not bother me.. Loserpeggers hate me because I speak out against their stupidity..

BomberRiderFan

May 22nd, 2011
2:20 am

A few hundred come out for the rally? Winnipeg had 35000 for their save the Jets rally. That’s in a metropolitan area of 600 000 at the time. There are 5.2 million people in the Atlanta area and only like 700 show up? The fans never abandoned the team in Winnipeg. The NHL abandoned the market. Winnipeg won’t squander their second chance like Atlanta did. If the fans want a team back in Atlanta, they can rally really hard and get someone to buy the Coyotes when they go up for sale a year from now and move them to Atlanta. Not likely though.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
2:25 am

“The fans never abandoned the team in Winnipeg.”

Especially when 8500 showed up for a Jets GAME.. Loserpeg is full of revisionist historians, sure a lot of people showed up to the good-bye rally but nobody went to the games.. Loserpeg NEVER had average attendance anywhere NEAR capacity.. pretending things this time will be any different in just being DISHONEST..

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
2:26 am

Oh BTW, that Jets game with 8500, was a PLAYOFF GAME..

Alan R.

May 22nd, 2011
2:28 am

A few hundred come out for the rally? Winnipeg had 35000 for their save the Jets rally.

Winnipeg planned their rally/cookout/wake/whatever how long before it actually occured? This one was planned only a few days in advance, with little media support, and a large political event occurring at the same time.

Leave us be.

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Keep Hockey in Atlanta

May 22nd, 2011
2:37 am

Meh I think better planning and announcing earlier than on Thursday probably would have drawn more people. Plus the story on Thursday about the sale being done probably put a damper on some peoples spirits. If the NHL wants to use this an excuse to leave Atlanta when they know full well they were in bed on this whole deal months ago well I say screw ‘em

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
2:44 am

Yup, loserpeg had been planning for that good-bye rally for 15 years by not going to the Jets games..

myJokes

May 22nd, 2011
3:00 am

I see attendance in Gongdale is booming. Notice how every comes dressed as a red empy seat.

http://www.sportressofblogitude.com/2010/10/22/photographic-evidence-showing-that-glendale-arizona-is-a-hockey-hotbed/

USAzCoyotes

May 22nd, 2011
3:36 am

I feel really bad for ATL Thrashers fans. The NHL has gone out of its way to help keep my PHX Coyotes here in AZ, but has not lifted a finger in regards to help keep the Thrashers in GA. Doesn’t seem right at all. I hope the NHL will return Atlanta soon.

Anders Hedberg

May 22nd, 2011
4:02 am

Les Habitants,

Merci boucoup. Nous sommes impatients d’accueillir Les Habitants en Winnipeg. J’taime Quebec.

Sunshine Falcon

May 22nd, 2011
5:40 am

I hope channel 11 still carries the national games. The Thrashers ownership, put an inferior product, on the ice. When the team was competitive, ATL fans showed up.

jealous o' peg

May 22nd, 2011
8:30 am

Its true, bettman doesn’t care about certain markets(if they don’t bring in top dollar). He couldn’t wait for my former team the failures, er I mean whalers, to get out of town. I’m sorry atlanta, I’ve been where you are(wait, maybe not. I’ve only lost one team, this makes two for y’all). As far as the Islanders go, can’t really compare. Islanders have sucked for so long and they play in an outdated dump, hence why their attendance is whereit is. But they had a dynasty in the 80’s and the place was sold out every night back then. Plus they are owned by a local boy. At least you still have the other major sports leagues, nascar and college basketball….I’m sure the your food is better than winnipegs, sucks for the players

Fart

May 22nd, 2011
8:39 am

Attendance was a double edged sword, I know the brainless Northern trolls use the numbers as fodder but it shows how the “rightful owners of hockey” are completely oblivious considering they try to pass themselves off as know it alls. If you northern trolls knew everything, you’d know that going to the games would have helped the team financially, the team may have stayed. But you’d use that brain to also know that going to said games puts money into the pockets of tyrannical owners, keeps said owners in business here running the team into the dirt, an inferior product, etc etc. Of course in Winnipeg you are elated, happy to be here attitude regarding hockey, you have nothing else to do with your lives, especially in long, frozen winters. It’s not even a “winner” that people wanted but, at least, a formidable team that played hard every night. If you want to spend 75$ on an average ticket, 20$ for concessions..15-20$ for parking to see Tim Stapleton take the ice, good for you.

Random Thoughts

May 22nd, 2011
8:46 am

What if….
This deal doesn’t happen?
Remember, we are dealing with the litigious ASG…..nothing goes smoothly.
With these people you just never know.
If they could find a way to cut gb out of deal, they will.

Fart

May 22nd, 2011
9:31 am

^^ It’s possible and I have been secretly wishing for that also, they sue everyone and end up getting sued as well. If it drags out we have a chance (thus the two schedules for the ‘team’) ..most seemingly feel that it will be announced next week that the Thrash are flying to the frozen wasteland, at this point we can only hope the Spirit does what it does best and screws everything up and forces us to have at least, one more year.

I like the urgency of finding a local owner AFTER they said they’ve been trying to sell the team for how many years now? Was it 5? It was never publicized..alls we get near doomsday is the “Balkan” which appears to be a giant hoax..or the usual suspects in Rollins who has less money than Glavine’s group..oh and DW was working on this to find a local owner. Yikes. If that isn’t a sign the end is near I don’t know what is.

Too bad Bettman is also a lawyer and both sides will get money..while Atlanta fans get told “deal with it”. I think Bettman has a strong disdain for this ownership not to mention he will gladly take the funds and pour it into his team in Arizona which pretty much means we are toast. Keep hope alive but it’s grim, at best. God bless Chris Thorburn…if more people started saying what’s right rather than what’s accepatble..it would send a clear message to everyone that our players love being here and under the right ownership, hockey could flourish here along with the fan base.

Keep Hockey in Atlanta

May 22nd, 2011
10:04 am

“just like they show up for braves playoff games”

Can’t even compare the two since the Braves have choked so many times in the playoffs that people over the years became skeptical.

Frustrated in ATL

May 22nd, 2011
10:07 am

‘God bless Thorburn’ is right. Makes you wonder just how upset the rest of the players are. I’ll miss these players.

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
11:40 am

of course if we had anyone that wanted to buy our Yotes, Bettman wouldn’t have had to buy them. we still lost $50 mill last yr. our Glendale govt is also paying the NHL $25 mill. sounds like we’re a bunch of losers don’t it?

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
11:41 am

i hate Weinerpeggers and asslantans!

G52PIM228

May 22nd, 2011
11:42 am

i have photos of all the Yotes players pasted all over my room (but I have to take them down when my mom comes in to clean up).