No word whether Spirit, True North are in negotiations

It is unclear this morning if the Thrashers have been granted  permission by the NHL to begin negotiations with True North Sports and Entertainment, the entity that would purchase the franchise and move it to Winnipeg, or if those talks have already begun.

However, it does appear the situation is headed in that direction. All attempts to find a buyer with the intention – and wherewithal – to keep the franchise in Atlanta have not moved past the preliminary stage. After signing a non-disclosure agreement for an initial look at team financial records, a prospective buyer must provide proof of the financial assets to complete a sale. No interested party has done so to this point. Time is running out.

As I was told and reported this week, things could move quickly in regard to a sale and relocation. Although, contrary to reports, it won’t get done by this weekend.

There is also no timetable on the possible completion of a deal with True North. It is also not known if such an agreement could be reached in time for next season. The structure for a deal could be in place as True North had first hoped to acquire the Phoenix Coyotes, owned by the NHL, until a resolution was reached to kept the team in Arizona for another season earlier this week. The Glendale City Council voted to pay $25 million to the NHL for operating expenses to keep the team at least for next season.

NHL bylaws require that an owner seeking to relocate a team submit a written application to the commissioner by Jan. 1 of the year preceding the proposed move — “unless a majority of the [clubs] consents to a later filing date.” That clause and caveat leave open the question of whether a move, if a deal is reached, would be for the 2011-12 or 2012-13 season.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, speaking on NHL Live radio Thursday, said the situation in Phoenix differs from Atlanta.

“With respect to any other franchise, it comes down to ownership,” Bettman said. “It’s the reason we ended up leaving Quebec City and Winnipeg. Those teams moved when nobody wanted to own the club there anymore. If you get to that position, where somebody is not prepared to own the club anymore and you can’t find a new perspective purchaser, then you are really between a rock and a hard place.

“We know that the current ownership of the Thrashers has been trying for a long period of time to try and sell the franchise and they haven’t been able to do it. … If they can’t find local ownership, then we might all have to deal with that. But I know they have tried very hard and I assume that they continue to try very hard.”

Bettman echoed deputy commissioner Bill Daly’s statements to the AJC’s Jeff Schultz earlier in the day and would not guarantee that the Thrashers would be in Atlanta next season. Bettman said questions about the team’s future were not his to answer and referred them to team ownership.

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G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
1:28 am

I’m trying to put to bed the ignorant fantasy that the NHL is somehow interested in putting a team in a tiny already failed market when there are BETTER options with actual NHL venues available(KC/Houston come to mind).. You people are fooling yourselves and I pity you, so I am trying to help..

:-)

Wimps_ca

May 15th, 2011
1:49 am

G52
Trying to help? all you do is bash, The CALGARY Flames are hugely sucessful, Atlanta is already a failed market so don’t go there.

Wpg may be a small market but like Edmonton, Calgary and Ottawa there is passion for hockey like there is for football in the south.

Like I’ve posted before, instead of being a useless trashing troll channel your efforts into selling tickets and save your team.

G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
1:59 am

“Edmonton, Calgary and Ottawa ”

All three of those teams LOSE MONEY and Winnipeg is MUCH smaller and poorer.. Perhaps you need to familiarize yourself with the economics:

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2010/12/8/1536097/nhl-relocation-winnipeg-quebec-city

Wimps_ca

May 15th, 2011
2:15 am

G52,
Both the CALGARY flames and Edmonton make money, both need new arenas that is fact. The CALGARY Flames foundation donates hugh coin to minor hochey so quit talking about something you know nothing about.

Passion for the game is what this article misses, like I’ve said, sell tickets, quit bashing the fans in Canada.

G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
2:23 am

That is why Katz went before the Edmonton council and said the loses were “unsustainable” before demanding a HUGE public subsidy in the form of a billion dollar downtown revitalization the small town can little afford.. Katz is demanding a new facility, without one the team will relocate.. I suspect he is making unreasonable demands of the tiny community in the hopes of abandoning it..

Wimps_ca

May 15th, 2011
2:29 am

Katz, unlike anyone in Atlanta, is willing to put his money where his mouth is. Hw has ponied up $100 mil of his own dollars to a new facility.
Edmonton will get this done, how is your tripe selling tickest in Atlanta?

Steve

May 15th, 2011
2:31 am

I live just outside Winnipeg. I wouldn’t count on your team moving. Bettman moved the Jets from Winnipeg and he’ll never admit that he was wrong. He would rather hang your owners out to dry just like he did in Pheonix.

southoftheborder

May 15th, 2011
3:08 am

Ben – quick question. Without the Thrashers wouldn’t Philips have been built for the Hawks anyway? I don’t think they would still be at the Omni

Yuuvno Ballzerdikk

May 15th, 2011
6:15 am

Philips is an all purpose arena, but just like our hockey team it has been neglected also, it got run down pretty quick. Ever been in the restrooms? You have to swim through urine and you aren’t sure whether or not arena personnel will steal your wallet or help you if it’s stolen. Hey, they at least removed criminal crackhead element after a few seasons. They used to linger in packs outside after games, always fun getting harassed and having some dude in brand new Nike’s beg for money.

.. I’ve said it before, whoever put this franchise together regarding location, our AHL ties, team name, team ownership / management needs to be ran out of town also, it was fatally flawed from day 1..yet people blame the fans. I swear if this organization can be blessed with a miracle, the new owners need to re-brand the franchise, so they may attract new fans and so original fans like myself won’t have to associate anything with the “Thrashers” ever again.

Mark

May 15th, 2011
8:05 am

Boycott all Atlanta Spirit events at Phillips, including Hawks and concerts. Screw these guys…

Casare Maniago

May 15th, 2011
8:31 am

I lived here when the Flames left….and now it looks as if the Thrashers may be leaving soon….and no, I did not live in Minnesota when the Stars left (a whole other issue)

I have said this a number of times…and it has been stated several times before…the location of the facilities in ATL is one of, if not the worst, in the US. No easy way in or out….surrounded by some of the worst neighborhoods in the Metro Area. No areas safe to tailgate before or after a game. Outside of CNN Center, where would you want to venture out to….the public bathing showers in Centennial Olympic Park?

Some say hockey can’t make it in the South…been to Raleigh? Those fans show up early and stay late tailgating! Been to Nashville? The arena sits on the edge of the downtown entertainment district on Broadway….blocks from the original Grand Ole Opry!

About 20 years ago, Ted Turner….the owner of the Hawks and the man behind the Thrashers name and the team being here…and Stan Kasten proposed an arena at I-285 and GA400….which is the actual center of population in the Metro ATL region. Man, did they catch heat….and eventually, the Omni was torn down and Philips was built. The Thrashers did not exist then.

At one time, Rankin Smith wanted to move the Falcons to their own stadium in Flowery Branch…again, the City of Atlanta stepped in and the Georgia Dome was built. While the Dome is and has served ATL well, the location, parking, experience, etc. is awful! The Dome consistently ranks near the bottom of the NFL in game day experience polls and columns.

And do not get me started on going to a Braves game….name one place other than Turner Field you would go to in that area?

ATL has GREAT fans….but is viewed as a poor sports town nationally because of the lack of attendance at games….which is viewed as support. Do you think there would be only 35,000 fans in Philly for the Braves game on a beautiful Saturday afternoon like yesterday?

The NHL asked during the season for ATL fans to support the franchise. I have been to high school girls lacrosse matches where there seemed to be more people there than a Tuesday night Thrashers game.

It’s the location of the facilities….even when the ATL teams are winning, attendance at playoff games are a joke! Remember the Braves not selling out in the NLCS? The Falcons, during their Super Bowl year only having 50,000 (generous) at a Bears game in November (half were Bears fans)? And never was there a statement during the Hawks recent run of a rowdy, sold-out Philips for any of the weekday playoff games.

Because of the City of Atlanta, it looks as if the 2nd NHL team to locate here will leave…..

deafia

May 15th, 2011
8:46 am

Sounds like it is all about money, not fans’ hearts.

Victoria

May 15th, 2011
9:33 am

Just wanted to chime in and offer support to Atlanta fans from another market altogether. I’ve really come to enjoy your team and have been following this story – I’m so impressed with ATL fans’ hearts as all of this has been going on – I know that things don’t look good right now, but I truly hope that things work out for you guys and you can enjoy the Thrashers for years to come.

Tom Lysiak

May 15th, 2011
9:42 am

Victoria – thank you. That is much appreciated. It will take the NHL forcing the ASG to do the right thing. There are buyers, but not at their conditions of sale.

jim

May 15th, 2011
10:32 am

Why can’t the NHL provide a temporary bridge loan for one year from its treasury to the ASG and really get involved in trying to help find a suitable buyer?

I think the current owners would hang on for one more season with assistance from the NHL.That would help in the search and provide some level of stability to the situation.If nothing materializes even with the NHL helping then the league would recoup its money from a relocation sale after next season.

MrBill

May 15th, 2011
10:41 am

Its too late for the thrashers to move, I see on their website they are having a pick your seat day on May 21st for season ticket holders and potential season ticket holders at Phillips arena, this doesn’t sound like a team getting ready to move. I believe this upcoming season is very important if this team is to survive if we average 16000 a game then I think we will survive. To much has to be done to move a team now at both ends. For Winnipeg the Moose would have to relocate plus advertising would have to sold in Winnipeg and arena schedules would have to be looked at so the NHL can make up its schedule plus pre season games. Staff would have to be hired. It takes a good year or so to relocate a team and to do it in couple of months is not realistic. So lets just go out and buy tickets for the upcoming season and show or support we still have a chance. This could also be creative way to scare the daylights out of us to sell more tickets and if thats the case and they do sell more than they accomplished their goals. Its up to the fans in Atlanta to step up.

AtlFlamesFan

May 15th, 2011
11:05 am

I wish you were right MrBill, but picking seats and even paying for season tix would not prevent a move. It would simply require ASG to issue refunds. And who knows how long it would take ASG to issue those refunds.

Jason

May 15th, 2011
11:07 am

I spoke to my Season Ticket rep on Friday and he’s as clueless as to what’s going on as everyone else. They’re just trying to go about business as usual as possible (hence the Select-a-Seat event, etc.).

AtlFlamesFan

May 15th, 2011
11:07 am

The reason that Gary Bettmen has turned 180° in the past 4 months and no longer wants to save Atlanta Hockey is simple. He has a conflict-in-interest that encourages relocating the Thrashers.

The NHL lost $15M subsidizing the Coyotes last year. Now that the sale of the Yotes has blown up in his face, the NHL is on track for another $15M loss next season. And it could be worse. The Goldwater Institute has threatened suing Glendale of its $25M subsidy. If that happens, then the NHL is on the hook for that $25M, and possibly last year’s $25M. All of the sudden, the cost of keeping the Yotes in Phoenix may total the NHL $80M!!! To help with these costs, it is the NHL’s best short-term interest to pocket the $60M Thrasher relocation fee.

Casare Maniago

May 15th, 2011
11:08 am

Understand that Winnipeg has everything in place….the effort to move would not be that tough. Like with the Moose move from Minnesota, it was not that big a deal.

Lysiak is right….there have been offers….but remember one thing here about the Spirit….the do NOT want a competitor to go up against the Hawks…the loss of the Thrashers only frees up more space for other events/concerts at Philips where they falsely believe that they could gain revenue….

New owners and a new arena….closer to the fan base is what is needed.

MrBill

May 15th, 2011
11:23 am

I still say you can’t relocate a franchise in a couple of months, this is the Middle of may and the Stanely cup finals aren’t finished until mid of June and training camps are 2 and half months away after that. Don’t forget players would have to buy homes in Winnipeg or find places to live they have families as well as coaches. I just think to much has to be done in short time frame, plus there is nothing in the Winnipeg Free press that leads me to believe that an annoucement is right around the corner. Think about divison realignment Winnipeg is not in th South East also if we rank 28th out of 30 teams for attendance than who is 29 and 30 the coyotes where problay 30 and I understand Columbus is down there as well they lost 25 million last year and there is nothing being said about them being moved. When the league expanded and annouced that we had a team in 1997 we didn’t start play until 1999.There was do much that had to be done before the puck even dropped. I think that’s the same here. I see the thrashers playing here this season and beyond that who knows.

Cornbread

May 15th, 2011
11:26 am

If it’s a “95% certainty” that the Thrashers are moving, one would think there would be a Sunday article in the AJC, no? Same ol’ same ol’.

AtlFlamesFan

May 15th, 2011
11:30 am

I bet the NHL already has 2 schedules made up; one with Atlanta in the East, and one with Winnepeg in the West and Detroit in the East.

glovesave29

May 15th, 2011
11:32 am

The sole positive out of this is that the fans of Atlanta are now being recognized as intelligent and educated on the sport…and that we are the the victims or horrendous ownership.

Part of me hopes that…if Winnipeg is SUCH a great markets, and that ANYONE can make money there – well then take the team at A WHOLE – yup with ‘ol DW in charge and the ASG as the owners. See the disaster unfold as we have had to.

I am also bothered by the CViv tour of self adulation in the Canadian media. It’s been real uncomfortable to watch as an Atlanta fan. While most RESPONSIBLE media are reporting that the league is doing all it can to take the team here…Chris is out there sucking up to the Canadian media claiming we are 95% out the door. Enjoying this Chris? Personally, I hope you are 100% wrong – and that when the team stays you get the requisite readership (none) and you are shown the door.

wpgJetsfan

May 15th, 2011
11:36 am

MrBill,

If you look at the last past NHL relocations some of have been in May to even late May. So it’s possible for a team to still relocate this month.

ben

May 15th, 2011
12:13 pm

southoftheborder,

the arena finished in 98-99 was a condition of NHL moving here. Traditionally, the Hawks have had a poor following. A few years ago, pre Spirit, there were rumors that the Hawks would move and the T-Birds would stay. It was always thought that McDavid would have been a hockey-first owner, but that mysteriously fell through when the teams were sold to people, some of whom were in Turner’s family. The Thrashers out drew the Hawks despite being a baaaaad team. Then, ironically, as we got more hockey savy as a town we realized that this was basically an AHL team talent wise and we naturally blamed the GM and even more naturally than that made individual descisions about family finances and stayed home.

And then outta the blue came a lawsuit betwixt the members of ASG over Diaw-Johnson deal. Because of that lawsuit the T-Birds were hamstrung fiscally, or so we were told. Then there were these whispers that no one wanted to play here. That fed deep-seeded insecurities a lot of people have about this town because hardly any of the transplants (1/2 – 3/4 of the people in Atlanta) and a lot of the natives actually want to live here. As a native myself, it’s only been through the years that I have begun to appreciate Atlanta.

Anyway, so things rocked along until it came out that, they claimed to be losing $20 million on the Thrashers, savy, hossa, kovy left. and when kovy left he said he wanted to stay but they couldn’t tell him for sure if the team would stay. and the lawsuit against their lawyers claimed very bizare things which are too strange to be reprinted as no sane adult who moves in the world would believe them.

anyway, southoftheborder, i wanna thank you for having a respectful tone in our little back and forths. i can only speak for me when i say that i am a dyed in the sack cloth hockey fan first and a thrashers fan second. yes, this town doesn’t do well here, but then again it was never given a real chance at on-ice success and you have to have that here in atlanta first.

remember this as you pass judgement on us:

would you, a busy functioning adult with other payments and bills as well as commitments for time and money continue to support year after year of a losing pro team you don’t own or control? How would you react to a much smaller city claiming you had no right to this team and that they did.

I’m a researcher, I deal in demographics every day. I’m saying this as a researcher:

Mr. Betman, respectfully, my hometown lost its NHL team in 1980 and never got another one. This is a town of 6 million, most of whom don’t want to go downtown. I think if you put a team by where a majority of the affluent people live an NHL could thrive as long as they remained in the top third with spending and owned their building which would thereby create alternate revenue streams. If the Thrashers leave, and as a die-hard hockey fan and supporter of them, I am just about past the point of caring, we will get another crack at hockey.

Sean

May 15th, 2011
1:03 pm

Ben you make alot of good points but the location of the Omni(which is where Phillips not stands) didn’t seem to prevent people from coming to Knights games. I seriously doubt a new Arena would be built and if it was where would you put it? Cobb? Gwinnett? Would it still make sense to call the hockey team the Atlanta Thrashers if they were playing in Roswell, Alpharetta, Marietta or Duluth? I do agree that getting to Phillips is a pain the rear end and leaving is even worse due to the one way streets and no clear signs saying I-85 this way or I-20 that way, Turner Field is alot easier to get to and alot more parking due to it not being right smack in the middle of downtown Atlanta.

EA

May 15th, 2011
1:03 pm

Nothing personal C-Viv, but I have to agree on your strange communication with the Canadien media. Betttman is asking “who is making this stuff up”? He may be feeding us a line of b.s., but we don’t have to look far to see who is one of the main guys spreading this news. Doom and gloom all the way–”there is some tragedy mixed in”. A lot of people experience tragedy. Where is the defense of the city of Atlanta dedicated fan base, the players who have made their home here? Rich Peverly is out there defending us by saying those things and he has moved on. Yes, it may not work out for us in the end, but in the mean time, does our own writer have to be the one feeding the fire of speculation? Facts sir.

Sean

May 15th, 2011
1:04 pm

not should be now*

G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
1:04 pm

Still not a word from TNSE, is anyone sure they even want a team..

EA

May 15th, 2011
1:05 pm

Also, every where in Atlanta is a pain to reach with traffic. The arena is not going to be move. Someone said once, traffic is a sign of so many people wanting to live there. We already have a sub par downtown area. If we move the sports out, it declines even more.

hockeyfan88

May 15th, 2011
1:19 pm

@ Flagstaff thanks! I kinda figured they would Boom is a perfect song for the Thrashers! I love how we have hockey teams in cities that have little to no hockey markets. If the NHL moves Atlanta or Phoenix or Florida, I don’t think the sport will be respected again. Think about this I read this maybe on this site it makes a great point, take cities like: Tampa Bay, Anaheim, Nashville, and Carolina 3 of these 4 teams have won a Stanley Cup!!!! How awesome is that?! Hope your team stays in Atlanta!

southoftheborder

May 15th, 2011
1:20 pm

Ben,

You are right with the economy the way it is sports tickets have fallen off people’s radars. I am still on the fence about renewing my Browns season tickets (after 12 years).

Now take this for what its worth, but last summer I got a call from an associate who I have done deals with who is tied in with people in the Hawks organization asking if I knew anyone who would be interested in buying into the Hawks, since the group was cash strapped (I work in finance). One of my first questions was if they would just sell 100% of the hockey team and allow it to be moved because I figured that would be easier to sell and me and my partners would get a bigger fee. The answer was no. This was last July so I don’t know what changed over the next few months

Winnipeg = Poverty

May 15th, 2011
1:25 pm

I bet True North is trying to get the cheapest price possible because they know how little revenue in TV and Advertising and MTS Centre hockey operations there is in downtrodden Winnipeg. This will be one of the excuses that David Thompson uses if he acquires the franchise and moves it to a Toronto suburb or Hamilton in a couple of years. Lack of possible Winnipeg revenue streams force our hand in what we are willing to pay and this helps them if they don’t get the team as well.

Ryder

May 15th, 2011
1:41 pm

I’m thrilled that the Thrashers are leaving. Now we can focus on real sports like basketball and football. bye, bye, hockey!!

AtlFlamesFan

May 15th, 2011
1:45 pm

Here is another viewpoint that indicates the NHL has sleazy motivations to dump the Thrashers.

http://blogs.forbes.com/mikeozanian/2011/05/09/nhl-should-let-coyotes-go-to-winnipeg-and-keep-thrashers-in-atlanta/

wpgJetsfan

May 15th, 2011
1:47 pm

Winnipeg = Poverty,

You have no clue. Every HNL Canadian Team Shares in the TV rights. Therefore he’ll have an equal share of TV revenue.

Scott Oake had a breakdown segiment that shows NHL in Winnipeg earning about 115 Million per season.

Also the owner owns the building, concessions, etc. Plus they are expanding around the arena to earn more profit. The business model will work to cover losses in those bad years which every team in the NHL goes through.

It’s rather funny to see people posting about Winnipeg in a Negative view and yet they’ve never been to the city. Having a large population means nothing for an NHL team if they don’t buy tickets. Phoenix Coyotes is a failure and still is today. No Profit at all since the team was relocated from Winnipeg to that city and now it’s on Welfare Support.

As for Atlanta, they really never had a chance. Bad bickering ownership and only making the playoffs once is another reason why the support has dropped. So I’ll give them that.

G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
1:51 pm

“work to cover losses”

So TNSE will be willing to prop up the loses on the team you already admit are to come.. Got it.. the NHL would be interested in doing this, why..

G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
1:57 pm

“No Profit at all since the team was relocated from Winnipeg to that city and now it’s on Welfare Support.”

No profits and the city propped the team up in loserpeg too. Why does the NHL hate Canadians..

wpgJetsfan

May 15th, 2011
2:01 pm

G52PIM228

The WHA and NHL Winnipeg Jets made money unlike the WELFARE COYOTES. Once again get back on your WELFARE BOARDS. The Taxpayers of Glendale need your money and support for a team that has nothing but losses.

A team in Winnipeg will make money. PLAIN AND BRAIN DEAD SIMPLE!

G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
2:14 pm

“NHL Winnipeg Jets made money”

As in all venues you are mistaken, the loserpeg jokes lost money 14 seasons, yes accepting “bail out” funds from the city for 4 season.. The jokes did break even once..

Loserpeg is a FAILED MARKET that the NHL has no interest in, judging from TNSE’s stay mum policy, it would seem they are not interested in bringing the NHL there either.. You see the ONLY people moving an NHL team to loserpeg helps is a handful of brain dead jokes zealots..

I’m pretty sure TNSE is not as excited as you are about trading a profitable Moose franchise for a chance to prop up the NHL with every other profitable venture they have..

wpgJetsfan

May 15th, 2011
2:15 pm

G52PIM228

When the NHL moves here next season and we make money I am so going to laugh at you and your WELFARE COYOTES

G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
2:23 pm

Darren Fraud has a BUNCH of you idiots brainwashed into believing some insane fantasy that is just not going to happen.. I’m TRYING to help you people..

Winnipeg = Poverty

May 15th, 2011
2:24 pm

wpgJetsfan I am very well aware about how business works in pro sports. The Hank Yarbo types from Winnipeg like yourself need to stop touting about the 730,000 Hockey loving fans in Winnipeg. You destroy your argument right there. There are millions in Atlanta and its suburbs and that equals huge potential revenue streams for a successful winning Atlanta hockey team. If the Thrashers become exciting and win local sports channel can charge what?10,15 20X times for beer comercials and car commercials etc… than they ever could in Winnipeg.Winnipeg can never compete with Atlanta, Phoenix or Miami and you need to get over it. The people hurt in this will be the players and NHL brand name by costing the league the huge potential revenue streams available in Atlanta.

G52PIM228

May 15th, 2011
2:29 pm

“Winnipeg = Poverty”

You are completely right, large under served markets represent HUGE PILES of NEW revenue to the league.. Loserpeg represents perpetual revenue sharing because of a tiny inadequate venue..

GlobalView

May 15th, 2011
2:33 pm

“Winnipeg = Poverty”

Any one know of other Chamber Of Commerce slogans they’ve been using up there?

Winnipeg = Poverty

May 15th, 2011
3:06 pm

I’ve hinted at what Atlanta NHL hockey fans and media need to do to derail any deal with True North. You need to make clear to Gary Bettman and the Board of Governors and especially the owners of the Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres and Detroit Red Wings all of whom have longstanding opposition to a new team in their territory of Southern Ontario is that David Thompson’s motives are unclear in the longterm and moving a money losing operation in Winnipeg to Southern Ontario is what his plans may be in the future. Take Thompson out of the picture and True North loses its big financial backer and any chance move of the club to Winnipeg ceases because Thompson’s money is the only thing interesting the NHL at this moment in any deal.

southoftheborder

May 15th, 2011
3:10 pm

G52 – Why are you taking your stupidity show all over the internet? If we were to follow your logic the NHL should move the Coyotes and Thrashers to Mexico City. Its the largest city in the world!

GlobalView

May 15th, 2011
3:17 pm

southoftheborder

May 15th, 2011
3:10 pm

G52 – Why are you taking your stupidity show all over the internet? If we were to follow your logic the NHL should move the Coyotes and Thrashers to Mexico City. Its the largest city in the world!

southoftheborder

May 15th, 2011
1:20 pm

So – are you POT or KETTLE, Mr. High Finance….?
You are right with the economy the way it is sports tickets have fallen off people’s radars. I am still on the fence about renewing my Browns season tickets (after 12 years).

GlobalView

May 15th, 2011
3:21 pm

From AZ Central:

posted by southoftheborder on May 12, 2011 at 11:20 AM

What you should have been writing to the Coyote fans that its time for them to show up to games. If Winnepeg gets the Trashers, expect a bunch of Quebec people to show up to replace the Winnepegers who replaced the Hamiltonians.