Ramsay on loss to Oilers: ‘Awkward’ penalties

I caught up with Thrashers coach Craig Ramsay after Saturday’s 5-3 loss to Edmonton – a game the Thrashers led 3-1 before allowing three third-period power play goals to rookie Taylor Hall. Tobias Enstrom was called for hooking and slashing penalties, Chris Thorburn was called for tripping and Nik Antropov got a double minor for high sticking in the third.

Here’s what Ramsay had to say:

“I thought we played extremely well and unfortunately it came down to special teams again – 4-on-3s and walking out of corners for goals. There were goals that should be prevented. It’s something we’ll look at again. It shouldn’t be happening this time of year, but it did. We’ll discuss it and walk the guys through it [Tuesday] because the low walk goals are the ones you don’t expect. Our defense got on the far post. We like them on the near post. It’s strange.

“We had the game. We took some crazy penalties. We need to be a team that’s known for its discipline. We can’t afford to take penalties. Some can be beyond your control if you are saving a goal, but we can’t afford to take penalties. We want to play with discipline. We want to keep our sticks off people. We don’t want to high-stick or hook or hold or do any of that stuff. We want to play with discipline, physically, contact, separate people from the puck but can’t afford to take penalties. It’s not good enough. When we get ahead in the game, we can’t panic. To suddenly take those penalties was really awkward.”

26 comments Add your comment

tarps3

February 21st, 2011
5:06 pm

Great work today Chris with all the write-ups. Its good to know there are people who truly cares about the organization. :)

Smoothie

February 21st, 2011
5:08 pm

Awkward? I call it dumb. No excuse for either penalty. Although at least Antropov was fighting for position going to the net (I think).

Barry

February 21st, 2011
5:20 pm

Antropov’s penalty was retarded. He was in the left wing circle and he just steps up and cross checks the Oiler player in the face. I mean wtf? Thorburn was chasing to the puck and he was clearly beaten as the Oilers player was a good 5 feet in front of him and unless Thorburn had a 10 foot stick he wasn’t going to touch it. There was no need to be reaching for the puck. Just follow the Oiler’s player and crush him against the boards.

kj

February 21st, 2011
5:30 pm

Let’s see…..the D is confused on whether to take the near post or the far post with a man walking in down low?? Was that a surprise? Maybe Edmonton scouted and saw that the Thrash D just allowed the man down low with the puck to freely approach the side/front of the net without paying the price? You ONLY do that if you’re confident your goalie has the near post (didn’t happen) AND once he approaches the front of the net, he gets knocked on the seat of his pants!!

I’m sorry but that’s just poor coaching this far into the season.

Um

February 21st, 2011
5:59 pm

Brendan

February 21st, 2011
7:28 pm

It’s amazing that the ‘Canes and Sabres have so graciously agreed to lose to keep our playoff hopes alive. The way to make the playoffs is to ‘handle your business.’ Six wins in 25 games is not ‘handling our business.’ It’s time to sell, and Bergfors and Sopel should be trade topics.

Barry

February 21st, 2011
8:35 pm

Oduya should be traded as well. He hasn’t been good all season. I’ve been questioning coaching as well this year. There are weaknesses in this team that hasn’t been improved upon all year. In some areas things have gotten actually worse like the PP and the PK for instance. Also Thrashers play too soft in the defensive zone. They allow teams to setup shop and run their cycles on us. Nobody puts anyone down on the ice or puts a body on anyone. The whole Thrashers defense scheme seems to be prevent defense/contain defense. That doesn’t work. I thought Ramsay was a good defensive minded coach but I’ve yet to see any results of that.

Jimbo

February 21st, 2011
8:39 pm

Ramsey was a good plugger and scorer who was known for his quiet, selfless style of play. He is also known as a good guy to have as an assisstant when you’ve got a volatile head coach like a John Tortorella. He is not a motivator and doesn’t fit with a bunch of young guys who need to be hyped up at times and disciplined at others. And, where in the world is the D. that Torchetti was supposed to supply. Duds cronies are just that CRONIES.

Thrashy Thrashy

February 21st, 2011
11:33 pm

We don’t have a fiery, physical system. You don’t need a fiery coach to implement something like that, but you damn well better have players who are willing to flatten the opposition.

Our biggest problem is a lack of veteran talent and grit. We see that every game. Ramsay would look like a better coach if he had a couple of talented veteran wingers who could play a physical game and can put the puck in the net. Having players like that to lead the charge would help bring everyone else along.

As it stands, I don’t expect all of our guys to be full of sandpaper, but I sure as hell expect to see more fight and grit out of the people currently populating our roster. What the hell do they have to lose? It’s not like anybody expects a damn thing out of them. Why not make people take notice?

Barry

February 22nd, 2011
12:01 am

I know this team just doesn’t have the urgency and no quit attitude they did the 1st half of the season. Now if this team gets behind they almost quit or if they get ahead they sit back and relax thinking they have the game won already. This team just seems to have lost the fire, jump, and high energy style of play they had the 1st half of the season and their record reflects it. This team just has no urgency or aggressiveness in the defensive zone at all. It’s depressing to just watch them all stand around while the other teams runs cycles and allows a rookie to score a hat trick.

Winnipeg Jet

February 22nd, 2011
7:58 am

Just drop the gloves and give’er a go.

Jimbo

February 22nd, 2011
8:00 am

Last year I recall Barry Melrose saying that good coaches know how to instill that “not in our building” spirit and know how to adjust it over a full game so that teams do not use up all their energy in the first period. He also pointed out why some teams were so successful at home- the visitors expected to be hammered early on and many simply folded their tents after being pushed around early on. When was the last time we saw the Thrash come out like “fire breathing dragons”? Never. And, talk about lack of grit. Why have Thorborn and Boulton turned into Stars of the Ice Follies and not bangers? Sorry gang but Clueless Craig is not the fit that we need.

The Real Thrash

February 22nd, 2011
8:04 am

It is not poor coaching, it’s bad performance by the players. The coach can’t make a player make the correct plays only put them in the right position to do so.
And it the coach says that’s NOT the way to defend saying you’re playing differently because of the quality of your goalie, THAT’S the player not the coach.

The Real Thrash

February 22nd, 2011
8:06 am

Just a bunch of bandwagon fans today. It’s all about the coach.
Not the players, yeah right!

Baghead

February 22nd, 2011
8:10 am

anyone else sick of the organizational mentality of this team, we are the only team that is almost happy when the team actually tries hard for most of the game. they get praised for “effort”. they are being paid millions of dollars and their coach praises them for deciding to play hard in a losing contest..because it’s common for Thrasher teams to coast, they are rewarded for actually playing hard. Give me a break. How does it take years to not figure this out, since 1999 this team has struggled to somehow field a roster of players who are committed.

it was completely disheartening that I saw more effort from a guy in Mark Stuart playing his first game as a Thrasher than I have from an entire career of Ron Hainsey or Johnny Oduya here. Seriously how long until they infect him. i’m sick of thisteam getting a pat omn the head from passive, wimpy whispering coaches praising them for not quitting like they normally do.

Baghead

February 22nd, 2011
8:17 am

furthermore, i don’t think this team needs a a drill Sergeant, but i do vaguely recall bob hartley saying it’s not romper room, i remember him getting fired because the pansies quit on him because his practices were hard and a certain russian superstar egotistic crybaby didn’t like him. why is the effort and passion continually questioned and year after year the brass that runs this dysfunctional team opts for the same coach, different hairstyle or lack of hair. John Anderson is Ramsay, same passive soft approach, coddles players for losing to the worst teams in hockey, but they tried. should show them the tape of dallas man–handiling us, point at them for wimps and having no heart or grit. soft as toilet paper.

Jimbo

February 22nd, 2011
8:41 am

Baghead- right on. These are supposedly PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE PAID FOR RESULTS not effort. Ramsey- “awkward plays???” Gimme a break! Give me a drill sargeant who sets the tone in practice. Hartley did and the pansies revolted. Ramsey apparently can’t get his “day care”style to work. Let’s try someone else”s.

Boom Boom

February 22nd, 2011
9:41 am

6 and 25 in the first half of a season gets a coach fired. Its time to clean house starting with Wadell

Comment

February 22nd, 2011
10:31 am

I wouldn’t blame Ramsey. He has a bunch of fairies to work with.

Old Time Hockey

February 22nd, 2011
10:46 am

Boom Boom, it just is so tiring to hear the Waddell stuff. Come up with a new gripe already! The whole season would be completely different if Waddell wan’t here? Puhleeeze. How about players step up and do what they get paid for. Hustle wins, watching loses. We’ve had too many plays where we are chasing and not very hard at that. Watching the Penguins game last night. Interestingly, they suck pretty bad without their two big guns. Actually look a lot like us with our mediocre talent. The one thing I REALLY like about their play is they finish EVERY check. No peeling off when the guy passes the puck. They put a body on everyone who touches the puck on the opposition. Not big jumbotron hits, just put the body on the guy and keep him out of the rest of the play. I just don’t understand the softness of this team. We need Slater back. Pity the trainer is old school and is afraid to step out of his box and find some help (that is available) for post-concussion problems.

Comment

February 22nd, 2011
10:51 am

In the spirit of democracy and equal pay…I understand there is a protest against ownership scheduled for Friday before the game. Anyone know where it is and what signs we need to bring?

Jimbo

February 22nd, 2011
11:29 am

Wouldn’t blame Ramsey, Comment? Coaches have the responsibility to not only manage what they are given (Ramsey’s lament) but to provide leadership and to head the organization/team/group in the right direction. Are the Thrash headed in the right direction. Ramsey’s primary job measurements should go something like this: 1. Produce a winning season 2. Obtain a Playoff spot 3. Develop talent. Has he achieved any of them? Bye, bye Rammeroo.

Comment

February 22nd, 2011
2:13 pm

Jimbo: Our team roster is sub-par. For the most part they are a minor league squad and washed up players that no one else wants. You at least you have to admit that.

schmeckdawg

February 22nd, 2011
2:17 pm

What do you expect from a tam with a nickname like The Thrashers. It’s a little brown bird and that is exactly how they play. Good riddance, I hope you clowns enjoy beautiful (insert laughter) Winnipeg!

schmeckdawg

February 22nd, 2011
2:18 pm

make that team…my bad!