Amid rumors, Ramsay pleased with Bogosian’s play of late

Craig Ramsay admits to a mistake.

When hired as coach of the Thrashers, Ramsay came with a set of objectives. No. 1 was to play with a ‘Go’ mentality. No. 2 was to teach his players to be better without the puck. He achieved the first objective early in the season – which led to stretch of games where the Thrashers won 10 of 12 games. The coach now says he might have moved too quickly to his second objective at the expense of the first – which has led to a run of just five wins in the past 21 games.

“What we tried to do was be better without the puck,” Ramsay said. “We tried to go over those kinds of things. It didn’t work very well. I truly believe now the last few games we have taken some pressure off our people by saying we just want you to get going. Let’s get going again. Let’s get up the ice. Even though we were, let’s say slightly shorthanded, we just wanted to pick up the pace. It’s been much better. We haven’t had the results that I think we could have gotten but the shot totals are back up. The up-ice pressure is back. We’ve had more shots from the blue line because we won more battles in the offensive zone. We’ve done a lot of things better because the pace has been better.”

One of the beneficiaries of the return to the up-tempo pace has been Zach Bogosian, according to Ramsay. The defenseman was the subject of trade rumors Tuesday. Reports even said his relationship with associate coach John Torchetti was strained.

Bogosian said Wednesday he did not know where such reports came from.

Ramsay did acknowledge  “misunderstandings” between player and coach but said any issues have been resolved.

“When Zach goes, he’s effective,” Ramsay said. “He can be a problem for the opposition. Does that lead to some errors? Yes it does. It will. The coaches’ job, sometimes, is to just suck it up and shut up. It’s difficult because sometimes I like talking too much. Sometimes you have to say ‘It’s OK. Just go.’ Yes then gently a day later you will go over it. … I don’t think that John is mean to him. I don’t think he’s overly vocal to him. I think John is just trying to do what’s best for Zach and for everyone. I trust John to pass on the appropriate information in the appropriate way. I think misunderstandings occurred. They have been dealt with and I see nothing but good things.

“Zach didn’t quite understand all of the coaching things that were going on. It wasn’t just Zach but it suddenly came up. Zach wants to be a good player. I think Zach has stepped up. All I think about is the last two games and I think he’s been pretty good. He’s been effective. In Toronto, I think especially so. He skated up for pucks. He skated back for pucks. He shot from the point. He made a great pass on one goal. I see nothing but good things for Zach.”

Bogosian, 20, was a healthy scratch for three games before the injury to Tobias Enstrom. In Saturday’s 4-3 overtime loss to Carolina, Bogosian scored with 1:24 remaining to force overtime. He assisted on Dustin Byfuglien’s power-play goal in Monday’s 5-4 loss to Toronto.

“My thoughts are pretty simple,” Ramsay said. “The last game was Toronto and Zach was busier than he’s been, probably all year. He skated with the puck. He took some shots. He got a couple of points. He was as effective as he’s been all season. I like that. There were times in the Carolina game when he looked like a difference maker. He showed the speed. He wanted the puck. We heard him yell for it. My focus is pretty short anyway, but the last two games I’ve been very pleased with Zach. I think he understands, I hope he understands, I believe he understands that we are only here to make him better. That’s our only thought. We don’t show him mistakes because we want him to be a bad player. We want him to understand how small the differences can be that will prevent those errors and will allow him to have some fun.

“Today in our last [practice] drill, it’s a continuous scoring drill, I said beforehand that I want the guy that hits the line to go and shoot. He grabbed the puck and I said to the defense if [the forwards] are not passing it to you, carry it all the way up yourself. He did. He carried it all the way up. He took a slapper. It was hard at the goalie and he skated by and said ‘Like that?’ I like that. I like that a lot.”

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February 9th, 2011
2:45 pm

That’s a very good article Chris. I agree that Thrashers need to worry more about playing good without the puck and playing good defense. When you do that then the GO GO GO offense stems from that and you are actually able to go on offense but when you are running around your own zone for 2 minutes at a time and playing terrible defense and unable to get the puck out of your own zone that GO GO GO forward is going in reverse.


February 9th, 2011
3:03 pm

For a #3 pick, Bogosian is a waste, like most ATL picks.


February 9th, 2011
3:10 pm

Sometimes I think they try to leave the zone too quickly and that’s what is causing the turnovers.


February 9th, 2011
3:16 pm

Good job addressing a hot topic. Much appreciated

cousin Eddie

February 9th, 2011
4:12 pm

I love hearing what Ramsay preaches. Chris and Rawhide give us the most informative articles and I am thankful for it. The way Ramsay preaches, who would not give 110% everytime. I see this team give that effort every game but cant put the puck in the net. The system will work and we have seen it work back in November. I think this system would flourish with 2-3 more SKILLED players but as it stands we do not have enough skill to create enough scoring opportunities. I hope we find these skill players in time before Ramsay and Co. are shown the door. It would be a shame to loose them and this team because of not being able to get the right guys.
I don’t know how much longer I can hold on as a thrasher fan especially with the owner fiascos that have ruined this franchise since inception.
Keep up the good work Chris!


February 9th, 2011
4:33 pm

I would be a junior in college…give me a break

Iron League 13

February 9th, 2011
4:42 pm

Cousin Eddie – If not for Rawhide and Vivlamore we’d have NO real coverage. So I echo that kudos.


February 9th, 2011
4:49 pm

butt kissers


February 9th, 2011
5:12 pm

Seems we have a new “Brown eye” aboard to accompany the several we already have.
Yea, I mean you wiseguy.

Bogo……… Are we actually having this conversation????
Some trumped up BS rumour floated by another “Brown eye” in the “vaunted” Canadian media.

Here goes…….
NO WAY!!!!!
ANYONE advocating such a thing is a FOOL!!

The mere thought of it makes me want to vomit!!

Yea, right.



February 9th, 2011
5:47 pm

To everyone out there just think for one minute if you can play that well or maybe good give it a try you dummasses it takes a lot of traing and effort to be what our team is so shut the f……up and watch carefully ans see what si going to happen here


February 9th, 2011
5:57 pm

Bogosian’s goal, late, versus Carolina had us all jumping out of our seats at home. He’s 20. He’s still got two more years of development to go. If we trade him, it’s a pretty short-sighted strategy, mired in desperation. I’d rather see INACTION than a stupid trade, that damages the club for years to come.

When Bogosian was drafted 3rd overall, in 2008, Pierre McGuire screamed like a leprechaun who’d just found his lucky pot o’gold, “This is a COVER UP!! This is a COVER UP!! It’s covering up for the loss of Braydon Coburn. That’s what this pick is all about.” I felt like slugging Pierre McGuire. But truthfully, I feel like that about Pierre all the time. So, it really wasn’t much of a thing for me. Think of it like getting used to the temperature in a hot tub.

Anywho … if this organization chooses to trade Zach Bogosian for ’short-term gain, longterm loss,’ it’s just another rung on the ladder of missteps this franchise has made since inception.


February 9th, 2011
6:53 pm

lordstan57 Make it plain!! man, Make it plain!! (To quote Dr. King)
No need to say more than that re: the Bogo situation.


February 9th, 2011
7:07 pm

reiterating what everyone else said thanks to rawhide and chris we actually know whats going on on our team. Bogy has looked really good lately and somehow im not surprised it was a communication issue. I had forgotten torch was the one mainly running the D.

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February 9th, 2011
8:17 pm

Great sports journalism. And like I said before, the past few games, Zach Bogosian has played great. Some including the one who is wise in his mind only laughed at such a notion. Others tried to blame him for mistakes he did not make while screaming, “trade him yesterday!” It’s great to see that Coach Ramsay is truly the wisest of them all. He is still in control of this team and he knows what a huge talent Bogo has the potential of becoming in 3-5 years. He sees it on a daily basis.

I also had a feeling and said that the reason the Thrashers have not been scoring is because they have been focusing on defence. As crazy as that sounds, it has been confirmed. Folks, this team is very young and talented. The hardest thing for young skill guys to do is to play the game without the puck. They have never played real defence in their lives especially at the NHL level which is a whole other ball game than even the AHL.

Playing D is far more than who your D-men are and them playing in their own zone. It takes all six guys on the ice playing 200 feet away from their net and back the instant the other team gets the puck. That’s a lot harder to get going than go go go. Nice to see the coach change things up while having complete faith in the team.

Old Time Hockey

February 10th, 2011
8:37 am

I believe that Zach should not go, mostly based on glimpses and potential. But if you do package him in a deal, it better be a heck of a deal. You usually have to give up something of value to receive something of value. We’ve got some picks and some young studs and a bunch of filler. Realistically, who are you going to trade to improve this team? How many teams out there hoping the Thrash move Modin or Sopel or Hainsey or Thorburn? Anybody? Show of hands? Anyone? Thought so. If Dudley can pull something off without giving up young core players, I’ll be duly impressed. If Toby comes back and we get a little boost and win 3 or 4 in a row, we’re right back in it.


February 10th, 2011
9:25 am

Right now, I wish we hadn’t traded Marty Reasoner…remember him? Someone who actually SIGNED to be here for 2 years. And then we trade him. He is an excellent PK’er and face-off guy and works every night. I know we needed to give up something to get Buff (or was it the Ladd trade), but he could have been very useful right now during this stretch.


February 10th, 2011
10:04 am

coach Ramsey don t trade this young man I have watched this young man sense 4 years old he will make you proud. I think hes better with you then playing against you.I beleave hes trying real hard to make you proud. Give him time he will come to be one of your best.KEEP YOUR HEAD UP DOING GOOD JOB WE ARE PROUD OF YOU BOG.


February 10th, 2011
10:13 am

Hey Trasher fans. Looks like there is a bigger joke of a franchise than you guys….The Florida Panthers. Trading Frolik and a decent goalie prospect for a bunch of garbage. lol

Zombie Steve

February 10th, 2011
10:15 am

I miss Reasoner too, Tim

Zombie Steve

February 10th, 2011
10:23 am

Bogo impressed the heck out me his rookie season…. the potential is most definitely there


February 10th, 2011
12:39 pm

Time to worry Trasher fans.



February 10th, 2011
12:48 pm

Gary Betman, just confirm NHL network, that the Trashers will move to Québec city.

Tony C

February 10th, 2011
1:38 pm

What kills me is you look at how Florida has been suck for so long and yet, the frostbacks never seem to mention them as a preferred target for relocation….I guess they are ok with FL because it’s hockey close to the retirement home? WTFever.

As far as Z-Bo goes-I think if you read between the lines there, Coaches just simply gave the kid too much to digest at once. He may not be special needs, but methinks he’s never going to be confused for a MENSA member either.

Joe McGrath

February 10th, 2011
1:52 pm

@ Tim, I miss Reasoner AND Schubert. I always thought he was a tight D man.