Ramsay: Don’t blame Pavelec on Kane’s tying goal

In Chicago’s 5-4 shootout win over the Thrashers Saturday night, the Blackhawks got the game-tying goal late in the second period. Thrashers goaltender Ondrej Pavelec got caught behind the net playing the puck and Jonathan Toews stole it by kicking it out front. Patrick Kane was there to knock the puck into the empty net to knot the score at 4-4.

According to Thrashers coach Craig Ramsay, the goal was not the fault of Pavelec has much as it was the defensemen on the ice – Dustin Byfuglien and Tobias Enstrom.

Here’s Ramsay’s explanation:

“[Pavelec] got trapped,” Ramsay said. “If you feel pressure, he’s got to throw it on his forehand, which is going to be his strength. But more importantly, we don’t want him to get into that position which means both defensemen have to go back and we didn’t. We had one defenseman go back. We practice it almost daily where both D go back. Now, he has an option to both sides. That’s the most important thing. Is it the goalie’s fault? Not really. It was the fact that we didn’t support him. That’s what we want to create here is that team support where no one person ends ups up on an island. He always has help from his teammates. We didn’t come back hard enough and that’s why he ended up in a tough spot.”

19 comments Add your comment

English Teacher

November 8th, 2010
3:58 pm

Whatever you say coach.

English Teacher

November 8th, 2010
3:58 pm

Birdwatcher

November 8th, 2010
4:31 pm

Pavelec wandered, but did anyone else notice that his stick was held as he attempted to recover?

Smoothie

November 8th, 2010
4:31 pm

I’ll defer to the coach, but the goalie shares some blame I would think since he needs to read the play correctly before leaving the net.

Mike

November 8th, 2010
4:56 pm

So far I’ve gone along with what C-Ram said. But, honestly, Pav KNOWS he isn’t good at playing the puck, so WHY ON EARTH would you go behind the net to try to play it, when you have players like Kane and Toews on the ice?

Brendan

November 8th, 2010
5:21 pm

Interesting. Very interesting. On the one hand, he protects the young Pavelec, and on the other … he tosses Byfuglien and Enstrom under the bus. Actually, re-reading the quote, Ramsay never specifically singles out Byfuglien or Enstrom, instead … spoke in general terms, omitting names from the explanation. That’s diplomatic.

Barry

November 8th, 2010
6:06 pm

I think all three were at fault. Pavelec come out to play the puck when Chicago was flying down the ice after the puck. He should have let it go and let his teammates battle along the boards. I’m fine with goalies coming out to stop the puck from rimming around the boards or stopping it to make a play but there are times when he just shouldn’t especially when the opposing team’s forecheckers are bearing down on him pretty quick. It’s all a timing thing and the teammates coming down quick too to help out. Pavelec didn’t look calm or confident those first two periods. To me Pavelec looked almost scared out there.

jdg

November 8th, 2010
7:33 pm

what a crock – the goalie could have just minded the front of the net

Sam

November 8th, 2010
8:06 pm

Went back to my Tivo replay, and Toby goes back behind the goal to get the puck from Pavs. Toews, behind the net, blocks the pass then kicks the puck out front. Meanwhile, Buff leaves wide Kane open (probably assuming Kane’s going to the boards, too, but he heads to the crease). Buff is caught flat-footed in the middle of the 2 Blackjawks, as he watches the puck move quickly from Towe’s skate to Kane’s stick. Easy open net goal for Pat Kane, despite a last ditch effort at blocking the net by Antropov.

Wonder why Ramsay didn’t just call out Byfuglien. Of course, he did say they had “one defenseman go back”. Replay clearly shows that was Enstrom. Tighter game by Buff and that defensive duo (who were -2), and the end result might have been different.

But the Thrash still need to practice SO’s though.

Tony C.

November 8th, 2010
8:28 pm

He didn’t call out Byfuglien because you don’t call out your boss’ boyfriend in the media.

KLS1

November 8th, 2010
8:37 pm

Don’t agree, move the puck Pav’s…

Ward

November 8th, 2010
9:48 pm

Nice to see the coach “protect” the ego of his goalie…but those of us watching the 2nd and 3rd periods realized our team was being outstick handled and outbodied along our endboards..Pavs had already misplayed a couple back there under pressure…bad choice but he will learn.

Curly

November 8th, 2010
10:04 pm

Nice try Coach. Definitely a bad play by Pavs.

Hokie P. Clisters

November 8th, 2010
10:42 pm

Interesting comments……Rammer either sees Pavs needing a huge confidence boost or he likes the maturing factor in his young goalie. Pavs pretty much blamed himself for the loss and most of the goals. I don’t recall Pavs taking this much responsibility after a loss – then here comes Rammer’s comments about how good he played. Something sure is screwey. Rammer’s player communication mode (or mind games) is now in high gear – see Peverly blog for even more reference.

lordstan57

November 8th, 2010
11:49 pm

Pavs experienced EXTREME HIGHS, and EXTREME LOWS all in the same game.
Pavs made some superb saves throughout the nite. He also blew on some others, and THAT play in particular.However, I see coaches point entirely. He doesn’t need to counter -productively, publicly,
humiliate his players. The play did not unfold as they’re taught…. ??????????

Pavs is young…. as long as I see continued improvement I’m happy.

We do, it seems, need to work on our SO’s. Shooters, and tenders.

“Live Hockey, Love Thrashers!”.

Thrashers27

November 9th, 2010
1:08 am

Yep, that’s a bit of crap. I’m no NHL goalie, or coach, but regardless of whether the defensive support was there, or not Pavs should be able to at least fire the puck back into a corner and get back into the crease.

Bygones, Pavs had a decent night and shouldn’t let that oen gaffe determine his entire career. Keep workin’ hard, kid and you’ll be fine.

hockeyguru

November 9th, 2010
6:37 am

About Byfuglien: 1) our team got him because he was a star in the playoffs 2) he had 11 goals,same as Sharp one more than Patrick Knae (5 game winning) They would not have won the Stanley Cup without him 3) there were at least 10 other tems interested including Sharks and Red Wings but the Blackhawks did not want to deal him to a strong rival 4) he has performed strongly since coming to our team, 13 points in 14 games, 5) a friendly reminder about plus/minus–power play goals don’t count toward your plus and he has three of them 6) the Blackhawks have floundered without him especially on the power play 7) our power play has improved with him 7) he has shown leadership on the ice and in the locker room 8) he stopped at least three pucks from going into the net against the Blackhawks

Todd

November 9th, 2010
8:44 pm

Same old Thrashers different season. (yawn)

Sam

November 9th, 2010
9:22 pm

Not to put words in your mouth, but it seems to make more sense as “Different Thrashers, same ol’ season”.

And yeah, some nights it definitely feels that way.