Ramsay talks about commitment – again

Very sorry for the late posting of this blog. I got back from practice to find the screen on my laptop is not functioning. Sounds like a new (old) computer is in my future. Meanwhile, the monitor on my home computer is getting me through the day.

I wanted to share a couple of thoughts from coach Craig Ramsay from my post-practice interview. He brought up the subject of player commitment several times in response to several different questions.

As part of a response to a question about what the team did in practice, he said: “The one thing I really like around here, overall, is the commitment by the players. They have to show it. Not everybody has at all times and I’m not going to get into that, but we have to see that from every person. There isn’t somebody who can just go out and play. That’s unacceptable. We are going to get past that.”

As part of a response about the battle for the final defenseman position, he said: “It’s not going to be easy to play here. I hope they’ve picked up on that so far in training camp. It’s not going to be easy. It’s going to be demanding. There is a lot expected from our players. We expect to see that commitment at practice and in the games. They better understand that because it won’t work any other way.”

As part of a response about who will play in exhibition games, he said: “We see commitment at this during practice. We see if a guy is willing to work. The vast majority are doing that.”

Sounds like he is trying to deliver a message.

In other news:

* Chris Thorburn has played some center during training camp. There will be a story posted later, but Ramsay said the Thrashers think Thorburn can play both center and right wing. He’s going to get the chance. It’s possible he’ll play in the middle on the third or fourth line.

* In injury news, Andrew Kozek had successful surgery to repair sports hernia that has kept the prospect out of training camp. Patrice Cormier is scheduled to have the hard cast on his broken right foot removed in the next couple days and he will be re-evaluated. Everyone else in camp, including Jim Slater, participated in practice.

* It looks to me that Nigel Dawes and Fredrik Pettersson are likely to make the roster at forward. That leaves the fourth-line center and seventh defenseman position open.

*Here are the practice groupings and pairings from Thursday’s practice.

Group A

Goaltenders: Chris Mason, Peter Mannino

Defensemen: Brent Sopel, Zach Bogosian, Freddy Meyer, Noah Welch, Johnny Oduya, Tobias Enstrom

Forwards: Evander Kane, Bryan Little Patrick Rissmiller, Nigel Dawes, Niclas Bergfors, Anthony Stewart, Eric Boulton, Spencer Machacek, Akim Aliu, Jim Slater

The Group A line pairings were:

Kane-Little-Bergfors

Dawes-Rissmiller-Stewart

Boulton-Slater/Machacek-Aliu

Oduya-Bogosian

Enstrom-Sopel

Welch-Meyer

Group B

Goaltenders: Ondrej Pavelec, Drew MacIntyre

Defensemen: Boris Valabik, Ron Hainsey, Jaime Sifers, Dustin Byfuglien, Andrey Zubarev, Arturs Kulda

Forwards: Andrew Ladd, Fredrik Modin, Enver Lisin, Ben Eager, Chris Thorburn, Riley Holzapfel, Rich Peverley, Alex Burmistrov, Fredrik Pettersson, Nik Antropov

The Group B line pairings were:

Ladd-Antropov/Lisin-Thorburn

Modin-Peverley-Holzapfel

Eager-Burmistrov-Pettersson

Byfuglien-Hainsey

Valabik-Zubarev

Kulda-Sifers

The practice schedule for Friday is

Group A: 10:15-11:20 a.m.

Group B: 11:45 a.m.-12:50 p.m.

Note: They have been using both rinks at the IceForum. Warm-up drills first in the public rink followed immediately by system work in the practice rink.

Finally, thanks so much to those who have introduced themselves to me at practices. I so very much appreciate the kind words and your reading of the AJC.

68 comments Add your comment

cousin Eddie

September 23rd, 2010
6:06 pm

Barry

September 23rd, 2010
6:22 pm

I would be surprised if Pettersson does not make this team. If what I remember right the Swedish Elite League is a pretty demanding league and seeing him play Tuesday night he looks like an NHL caliber player. Pettersson was all over the place and going to the net. It’s interesting you say that leaves the 4th line center position open to be claimed but isn’t that Slater’s slot?

Lee

September 23rd, 2010
6:59 pm

Great read! I really like Ramsay’s view and I think the style of our team will change tremendously….
Go Thrashers!

TrueBlue

September 23rd, 2010
7:34 pm

I really wonder who is not “committing”….I think I may have a few ideas, but who knows. I really, really like Ramsay and his approach. I like his no BS attitude. So excited for this team.

iamtheratio

September 23rd, 2010
7:47 pm

*Hainsey* cough.. cough..

kracker

September 23rd, 2010
7:51 pm

I counted 36 on your list. The difference from the previous total of 38 is two goalies being reassigned. MacIntyre and Mannino Are easy to strike off. 34 If Pettersson and Dawes are in, I strike off Stewart, Aliu, and Holzapfel. 31 So that leaves Lisin, Rissmiller, Eager, Burmistrov and Stewart to pick two from.

The defense if the real log jam. There needs to be a trade there, maybe. Or perhaps 5 simply get sent down. Boris sure has to step it up if he makes it, that’s for sure. Can he clear waivers of is he at risk?

Mike

September 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm

Bergfors-Antro-Dawes
Kane-Little-Peverly
Modin-Slater-Ladd
Boulton-Thorburn-Eager

Sopel-Hainsey
Bogo-Oduya
Buff-Enstrom

Mason
Pavs

Mike

September 23rd, 2010
9:22 pm

or thge 4th line could include Rissmiller, Burmistrov, or Petterson.

I think Kudla is the 7th dman

Gib Traf

September 23rd, 2010
9:56 pm

Chris – appreciate the time you’ve put in since Craig left. keep it coming for those of us who don’t have the access that you do….

Darkhorse

September 23rd, 2010
10:27 pm

Sounds like Ramsay is talking to one or more of the vets on the team. If it were a prospect that was somewhat dogging it, you would expect them to be cut quick. And I would hope the two-way vets and tryout guys already know they better bring all they have just to maybe grab a spot. So it sounds to me like an existing roster vet with a guaranteed contract is working their way into the new coach’s doghouse pretty early on. Hainsey’s the first guy that comes to mind, but it could be one of the new Chicago boys also, not quite feeling it in Hotlanta yet. This will be interesting to watch. Keep an eye on it Chris…..great stuff!

KLS1

September 23rd, 2010
10:37 pm

Very crowded…hope Ramsay knows talent, we’re going to need to be hitting on all cylinders with this personnel.

JLH

September 23rd, 2010
10:50 pm

Kracker – I wouldn’t strike Stewart off the list just yet ….. I think he was the best forward out there on Tuesday after Little, Petterson, Kane, & Eager all of whom will make this team……Whadiyathink?

JLH

September 23rd, 2010
10:52 pm

Frankly, Byfugelin seems like the most likely candidate based on what I saw Saturday….. Hainsey had much more energy…….

sisu

September 24th, 2010
1:02 am

from tonight’s event at the arena one of the guys “in the know” mentioned Freddy Meyer instead of Kulda, never mind Boris…so that would be the 7th d-man. Time will tell.

liquid fart

September 24th, 2010
5:42 am

thank you Ramsey. it’s about time someone takes Hainesy by the locks and shows him the door.

kracker

September 24th, 2010
7:33 am

JLH, I had Stewart listed twice. Once to cut him and once to consider keeping him. I hope that clears things up :)

GaVaHokie

September 24th, 2010
7:43 am

I’d guess Sopel… Hainsey has been here for weeks on voluntary workouts. Sopel, I think, got her the day before mandatory workouts.

GaVaHokie

September 24th, 2010
8:20 am

However, a lot of what Ramsay is pushing sounds a lot like what Anderson was pushing… a “GO” offense, Defense that joins the offense, forcing your style on other teams…

I could see someone speaking up saying “We tried that last year and it doesn’t work.”

KLS1

September 24th, 2010
8:39 am

If defense is going to jump in the offensive rush, than offense needs to help defensively.

We didn’t that last year if you recall who wore #17.

World Be Free

September 24th, 2010
9:04 am

Dump Pavs to the Wolves (with Doris) and bring in Thomas Greiss from San Jose. The Sharks have 3 goaltenders and Greiss is an upgrade over the never-evolving Opie.

Flames

September 24th, 2010
9:22 am

It was good to have finally met you as well Chris….Thank you for the great job that you do. I know the players like and trust you…

Friend of a Referee

September 24th, 2010
9:36 am

Take this as you may…I was talking to a close friend who officiated the scrimmage last saturday @DIF and said he couldn’t believe the tension between Kane and the rest of the team. The chatter on the ice directed at Kane was disturbing (in his words). For what it’s worth…he said Buf was one of the nicest guys on the ice, but would hate to cross him in an alley!

Flames

September 24th, 2010
10:00 am

I was told by two players that Evander is getting to big for his pants. There was almost a fight between the three of them..I have been expecting a huge fight at camp any day now.

TrueBlue

September 24th, 2010
10:02 am

WoW….this may be a problem………

J.B.

September 24th, 2010
10:11 am

problem doesn’t even begin to describe that situation if its true…

GaVaHokie

September 24th, 2010
10:47 am

Hmmm… funny you mention Kane… the other day, he had a tweet that said “it never fails” and now it’s deleted.

No idea if it’s related or not… just sayin’.

passin thru

September 24th, 2010
12:02 pm

GaVa–
I read the same tweet. It was right after practice. Hope it all blows over once the “team” gets picked.

World Be Free

September 24th, 2010
12:07 pm

Maybe Kane is just pushing his teammates to be better.

passin thru

September 24th, 2010
12:39 pm

either way, it appeared to be frustration. He played hard on Tuesday and even after Burmistrov got him crushed at center with that rookie pass into traffic, he seemed to tell Alex not to worry about it. Tuesday was tough on him. Hopefully, we ice a good lineup tomorrow night.

Worst Team in ALL of Professional Sports

September 24th, 2010
1:30 pm

Doesn’t matter – this is the WORST team in ALL of professional sports

Flames

September 24th, 2010
1:48 pm

I will all work its self out sooner or later….

Smoothie

September 24th, 2010
1:50 pm

Flames – I take it the other two players involved in this “situation” are not likely to make the team anyway? I just don’t see Kane being much of a problem as he brings it hard every shift and he seems to practice that way. Perhaps he is ticking off a couple of “tweener” vets who don’t like the fact he goes balls-to-the-wall all the time?

alex

September 24th, 2010
1:55 pm

it’s does’t matter commitment if skill level not here, i feel sorry for ram. and dud, but all come down to bringing couple top players to the team to compete, tampa did that (kubina, gagne) atlanta not. asg please take me i am cheap but can’t play on this level, or instead of self imposed cap 46 mil. make self imposed cap 52 mil. and bring two top six forwards (or trade for). but you not going to do that because you stupid and short on cash, so my final advise – please sell the team to real owner and get out from here. everybody understand, with this owners we never going to taken seriosly in this league. proof – 11years nightmare with idiot don and spirit, llc.

passin thru

September 24th, 2010
2:26 pm

ha, “never fails” probably refers to something as simple as being asked to make an appearance at a public event. He’s probably feeling like it’s someone else’s turn. Thorburn, Slater and Boulton have always been the typical “good guys”

Chris Vivlamore

September 24th, 2010
2:29 pm

Flames: Great meeting you and thanks for the kind words!

All: Waaaaay behind today due to my computer issues. Working on a story on the race for the final defensive spot. Look for that later.

Modin, Ladd, Byfuglien and Burmistrov will be among those skating in Saturday’s exhibition game. I would expect Mason to get some time in goal.

Flames

September 24th, 2010
2:33 pm

Unfortunately it was two veterans that have been with the team for awhile. I really don’t foresee this as a huge problem. It will all works itself out during camp. I really don’t won’t to mention the other two guys names on a blog. It is real funny how some problems in the sport of hockey seems to worked itself out on the ice.

Smoothie

September 24th, 2010
2:40 pm

Flames – thanks, hate to hear that, but egos get hot and sometimes bruised in the game of hockey. No need to mention names as I certainly wouldn’t want to put you in a weird spot. I remember a certain outspoken player telling me what a (female anatomical part) a certain Finnish goalie was when he got “hurt” against the Rangers in 2009, which pretty much turned out to be his swan song with the Thrashers. And that player is still around. If there is an attitude problem, I trust that Rammer will know how to deal with it head on and keep it “in the room”.

J.B.

September 24th, 2010
2:49 pm

I certainly wouldn’t want anyone to name names either, but you’ve got to think there arent too many vets that have been with the team with a while considering the roster. Process of elimination doesn’t leave many suspects!

Ryan

September 24th, 2010
2:57 pm

I’m shure, that Kulda will be 7th def.
Valabik, Meyer & co aren’t so good.

passin thru

September 24th, 2010
3:21 pm

Hmmm… seem to remember a few days ago that Kane seemed to have a target on his back in practice. On Thurs., the only physical stuff I saw was Kane getting leaned on behind the goals and in the corners. Wonder if it was the same guys.

Joe Friday

September 24th, 2010
3:28 pm

Good to hear, if Kanes got an ego working the vets need to break down the young buck and get a saddle on him. Get in line, mister, you ain’t paid your dues yet . . .

Tom Lysiak

September 24th, 2010
3:38 pm

Disappointing to hear about Kane, if true. But, it wouldn’t be a shock either. The kid had a lot of success, read and heard a lot of good things about himself, and then vaulted to rock star status around the hockey world when he knocked Matt Cooke out. Gotta remember he is still a kid. Maybe his head swelled up a little in the offseason and this is the way things like this get handled. Vets get together and bring him back down to earth and get him back in line. The kid is a stud, but we don’t need a Crotchby, diva-style personality around here. (Wouldn’t mind that type of hockey ability though…)

Looking forward to tomorrow night!!!

Tom Lysiak

September 24th, 2010
3:40 pm

JF – I was typing mine while you posted yours. I wouldn’t have bothered had I seen yours before submitting!

Midfield

September 24th, 2010
3:54 pm

Perhaps, you’d better be dissappointed with the tenured free loaders instead. At least, Kane does not cut corners – literally – and seems to always know what to do.

Smoothie

September 24th, 2010
4:00 pm

Tenured free-loaders?? Other than Hainsey, Antro, Tobes and Lits, no one else has more than a 2-yr deal. And I just don’t see Toby, Nik and Bryan being an overt dick towards someone unless provoked…it’s just not their personality. Plus, Antro probably hasn’t been practicing much. I could see Antro getting a little ticked if Kane is getting over-aggressive in the corners. I guess I’ll have to see for myself when I head up to Duluth for practice. If a couple of the Thrashawks are already at loggerheads with one of our young’ns, then perhaps we are headed for troubs-ville!!

Joe Friday

September 24th, 2010
4:40 pm

doubt it’s the boys from Chicago, they had their own Kane up there and didn’t break him, and boy is Patrick Kane full of himself (rightly so, but I prefer the shut the hell up and skate type myself)

Joe Friday

September 24th, 2010
4:41 pm

“I wouldn’t have bothered had I seen yours before submitting!”

great minds think alike and all, or sumthin . . . Happy Friday, fellas, time for a little friday nite lights tailgating

cat fight

September 24th, 2010
5:05 pm

I think the girls need to quit fighting over who bought the dress first and go win some hockey games.

rob

September 24th, 2010
5:30 pm

with all the people fighting to get a small number of openings, I bet it isn’t hard to get sparks flying, and maybe Kane’s “full tilt” style hurt someones feelings as it is “only” training camp? I can see Kane going all out and a “regular” taking it easy and getting his feelings hurt. THAT might be what Ramsey’s whole thing about commitment was directed at. I doubt Kane would be the trouble-maker unless hard work makes for trouble. I just didn’t get that “prima dona” feel from his game. He throws himself (literally) into the game….so I think it might be the “vet” who got his feelings hurt by Kane’s play….and if so then oh well.
Just my thought, not worth .02 or anything though

Commitment n waddel

September 24th, 2010
6:31 pm

Sure waddell i in charge and watchin he interfere with his coachin job anyway.Cause he wants be In Winnipeg in 2013 as the Jets anyway waddell Five year plan is done time for Owners to make this Team stanley cup contender not a laughin act again…If they do you see 48-27-5 record this season 101 pts to