Bigger buzz in Atlanta over Thrashers or Hawks?

I had an interview with Thrashers president Don Waddell on Tuesday for another installation in my Catching Up With … summer series (that is scheduled to run on Monday).

One of the interesting things he said was that there is a big buzz in the city right now about the Thrashers with the trades, free-agent signings, new coaching staff and move of Rick Dudley to general manager. “Right now, we have a good awareness in the city with the Thrashers,” Waddell said. “…  Everything has been real positive so we want to make sure we capitalize on this buzz right now on the Thrashers side. We are seeing it. Our season tickets are up over last year at this point. Our renewals are way up over last year. You have to try to capitalize whenever you have these opportunities.”

That got me thinking. The Hawks made the playoffs for three straight years, advancing to the second round this season. The Thrashers, while undergoing significant roster and management changes this offseason, have missed the playoffs the past three seasons. It’s not an exact science of tapping into the buzz around a team, I know. However, the Hawks – seemingly – took their lumps this offseason with their coaching hire and player signings. The Thrashers’ moves – seemingly – have been well received.

I’m wondering what you folks think. Is there more anticipation over the start of the Thrashers or Hawks seasons? Or is it a matter of the Hawks being under a bigger microscope than the Thrashers because of their recent success? Let me know.

* A couple of housekeeping items. I’m finishing up the last of my Braves stories and will cover one last game on Friday. Then, after my last two weeks of vacation, I will be on the Thrashers full speed. It won’t be long. There is no rookie camp in Traverse City, Michigan this year. The rookies will report to Duluth some time around Sept. 12. A week later, the whole team reports and training camp is underway.

I will be watching for news. Right now, things are slow. No word yet on the re-signing of RFAs Bryan Little and Niclas Bergfors. That could briefly interrupt my time off or happen closer to camp. We shall see.

I will be checking in. Remember to follow me on Twitter @ajcthrashers and fan blogger Bill Tiller @ajc_rawhide.

127 comments Add your comment

Telfo

August 11th, 2010
11:07 am

definitely a bigger buzz for the Thrash right now, but compared to the Braves/Falcons there is a long way to go for both teams

Tmac

August 11th, 2010
11:09 am

lanier

August 11th, 2010
11:15 am

what is this about I dont know these teams

Ricochet

August 11th, 2010
11:16 am

The buzz is starting to build for the Thrash. Hopefully it will continue to build as the season goes on.
I know they’ll be getting a few more fans this year as I’m taking some friends to their first hockey game. Can’t wait to show them why hockey is the greatest sport in the world!!

Ben Marko

August 11th, 2010
11:19 am

HA is that a joke? obviosuly the hawks

Fan from Carolina

August 11th, 2010
11:19 am

NBA is on the downslide, just like Nascar. The NHL is trying but Bettman keeps the sport down. I certainly can never forgive him for the ‘glowing puck’ for TV broadcasts way back when. He is a businessman only, has no loyalty to true NHL fans, and when he leaves his position some day I can assure you he will probably never attend an NHL game again. Here is hoping that the Thrasher fan base expands with the latest off-season moves. It can’t get much worse.

Dave

August 11th, 2010
11:22 am

The Thrashers get my love. The NBA is still mainly filled with a bunch of Thugs!.

Steve

August 11th, 2010
11:24 am

Who cares about either? Neither ever has, or will, win anything. Thank goodness for the Braves, Falcons, and college football! And Dave, I agree.

Former "Hockey Love" Participant

August 11th, 2010
11:26 am

I have Thrashers season tickets and usually go to every game out of rote from the first season, and even I simply do not care about this hockey team anymore.

JMAYNE

August 11th, 2010
11:34 am

Thrashers get my vpte. What exactly did the hawks do? My atl pro-sports allgiance stands @ Braves, Falcons/Dawgs, Thrashers, Hawks.

JMAYNE

August 11th, 2010
11:34 am

And yes, this is Gerogia, ask anybody, Satudays and the dawgs, pro sports.

THW Don

August 11th, 2010
11:35 am

Tell the Don that the buzz is a direct result of having a GM worth a flip. Now if we can overthrow the useless Atlanta “Spirit,” who did this:
3 consecutive playoff appearances = COACH FIRED!
9 garbage teams out of 10 = GM PROMOTION!
Just try to make sense out of that.

jphnny 5

August 11th, 2010
11:38 am

ATL has a hockey team? Why?

mike

August 11th, 2010
11:38 am

I’d say the thrash with the true sports fans. but then again this is atlanta this is no sports town.

GStateBen

August 11th, 2010
11:43 am

For the first time ever, both will make the Playoffs the same year. We’ve got a great shot at all 4 teams in the Playoffs this year.

The answer is the Hawks because of the ASG’s lack of Thrashers exposure. This team has the mosts talent it’s ever had (my words, not Don Waddell’s).

Chris, Just a correction, the Hawks have advanced to the Playoffs 3 straight seasons and will be in again for a 4th straight season.

Sutton's Fro

August 11th, 2010
11:45 am

This headlineis a joke, right? The general population of Georgia (i.e., the 95% who aren’t rabid Hawks or Thrashers fans) will not acknowledge the NBA and NHL until after the BCS championship and Super Bowl are played. And that acknowledgement will ascend to “Buzz” only if one of the teams is in playoff contention. The bandwagon will then empty once Spring Training and Spring Football start.

Lord Stanley

August 11th, 2010
11:49 am

Steve obviously you care or you would not be on this blog. :)

No doubt the Thrashers, why on earth would you cheer for a team where there players have been quoted to tell the fans to go somewhere where the sun does not shine. Send the Hawks to Birmingham.

Chris Vivlamore

August 11th, 2010
11:50 am

GStateBen: You are correct sir. Made the fix. Thanks for that.

Jack

August 11th, 2010
11:52 am

Glad to see you back. :) Enjoy your vacation, hopefully Thrashers will do their trading and/or signing before you leave for your Safari. :)

Greg

August 11th, 2010
11:56 am

The Olympics last year got me ready to give hockey another try. I had been lukewarm as a Thrahers fan, but I finally got the fever last year. I’m VERY excited to see what the Thrashers can do this season. I’ve spent a lot of time reading about the team on blogs and websites.
I claim to be an expert at football, but when it comes to hockey, I need help to analyze the game. I’m looking forward to the AJC’s coverage this year, and I hope it is extensive.

Hawks? Looks to me like they are taking a step backwards. How can anyone be excited about that? Had they gotten a “name” coach, maybe it would be different.

Smoothie

August 11th, 2010
11:57 am

Can we please get an update on the RFA contracts for Little & Bergfors? Die-hard fans wanna know what’s up and if we’re close to locking these two young kids up long-term. Or are we likely looking at 2 year deals?

J.B.

August 11th, 2010
11:58 am

ummm, when did don waddell go cross-eyed?

A.T.

August 11th, 2010
11:59 am

We have a hockey team?

The Hawks and it’s not even a contest.

Paddy

August 11th, 2010
12:02 pm

It must be the Thrashers. ASG has seen to it that the Hawks are now looked upon by free agents as the “Three Mile Island” of franchises. If there is no buzz in the league from players about ATL, the end will come very fast. And with no $ to spend, the hockey team can’t be far behind. It is a shame, ATL should have all 4 major sports. ASG may of just ruined that dream for decades.

Wayne stuck in AL

August 11th, 2010
12:03 pm

I’d rather pay to see the Atlanta Dream than watch a Hawks game for free.

Chris Vivlamore

August 11th, 2010
12:04 pm

Smoothie: I’m on it. As I said above, there is nothing to report at the moment. I will keep at it.

Tired of it

August 11th, 2010
12:05 pm

To all the people saying this is not a sports town, shut your mouth and go to some games. The last 15 years Atl saw it’s population double mostly due to people moving here from the north. So of course those people still root for there hometown teams, but think every year these transplants and their offspring are slowly but surely starting to support the local teams. Nothing wins fans over quicker than winning.
I strongly support all local teams as well as the college teams. To me there is plenty of room to support all teams!

Tired of it

August 11th, 2010
12:06 pm

Correction

root for “their” hometown teams,

J.B.

August 11th, 2010
12:08 pm

Dear AJC sports online readers,

The quip “Atlanta has a hockey team?” and any variation thereof has been done to death, we’ve read it a million times before in every other Thrashers blog posting, and it wasn’t even funny the first time somebody wrote it prior to the inaugural season.

If this is the extent of your ability to be funny, you need to stop trying. Humor is not your thing. And to anyone who has made this most feeble attempt at humor at the expense of hockey fans in town, do you realize how completely stupid you appear to by by making said comment on a long-standing blog about Atlanta hockey?

It really is pathetic and I feel sorry for you if this is how you entertain yourselves.

Go Thrashers, Braves, Dawgs, Falcons, Jackets, Hawks, and any other team that competes representing our city and state.

Yours truly,

JB

Jack

August 11th, 2010
12:13 pm

JB well said. Obviously you know there is a hockey team if you show upo on the blog.

Daculafan

August 11th, 2010
12:17 pm

I am extremely excited about the Thrashers. I’ve lived in Atlanta since I was 8 years old (that’s 30 years now) and I’m a Braves fan also, which means I go to a couple of games and watch a few innings a week. I could care less about the Falcons, Hawks, Dawgs or Tech and NASCAR is beyond boring. For me the entire sports year revolves around hockey.

I think there has been more buzz about the Thrashers versus the Hawks. The Thrashers have made more off season moves than the Hawks.

ChippersLoveChild

August 11th, 2010
12:18 pm

Thrash… who cares about the Hawks?

whitey

August 11th, 2010
12:18 pm

I’m a long time hawks fan & don’t get into hockey unless it’s a playoff game or video game. I like Joe Johnson but think the Hawks over paid. If they couldn’t have got him for less they should have let him go elsewhere. Now they are cash strapped. With the trades the Thrashers made, especially the trade with Chicago, I am interested in saying how they start this coming season. The Falcons are the team I am excited to see. Football seaon is near.

Atticus

August 11th, 2010
12:18 pm

Seriously….who cares?? NEITHER team has a chance of EVER winning a championship under the currentr leadership!

NFL, College football and MLB (sheer numbers and no comp in the summer) dominate over every other sport. Couple it with incompetence at the ownership level=never spending a dime or minute on either franchise.

J.B.

August 11th, 2010
12:20 pm

Thanks. I really just can’t stand reading that line any more. These are the same people who think knock knock jokes and Biff Tannen’s lines from Back to the Future are hilarious and extremely creative. I’m at the point of questioning how anyone with an IQ greater than Garnet Exelby’s career goals total could even think that’s funny. (no offense, Ex) I just don’t get it… As a hockey fan, I’m not even remotely offended by it because it’s so stupid; the intent of the comment was to beg these idiots to stop embarrassing themselves in this forum (and likely others) and fashion.

I realize I’m probably feeding the trolls here… sorry y’all.

Carlos

August 11th, 2010
12:28 pm

If you go on merit alone…. HAWKS are the most consistant winning team in the city, hands down. Now I am a diehard Falcon Fan but i am a truly Atlanta Fan. I would say the Hawks may win a championship faster than the Falcon or Braves at the moment if you went by success of the franchises lately!!!!!!!l Also fo you who mention thug in the NBA, did you know Pro and college football have more law run in than the NBA by a large mark……..

J.B.

August 11th, 2010
12:29 pm

Seriously….who cares?? NEITHER team has a chance of EVER winning a championship under the currentr leadership!

NFL, College football and MLB (sheer numbers and no comp in the summer) dominate over every other sport. Couple it with incompetence at the ownership level=never spending a dime or minute on either franchise.

This is exactly what I’m talking about… NFL, College football, and MLB are great. I enjoy all three and do have decidedly better numbers. No one can question that, BUT THE QUESTION FOR DISCUSSION WAS THE CURRENT BUZZ FOR HAWKS/NBA v. THRASHERS/NHL.

For the love of all of us who have a modicum of intelligence, please if you do not have an opinon on the subject at hand, shut up until a new blog post is up on which you do have something valid to say.

… I’m so sick of this crap, I’m signing off the blog for a while. enjoy the trolls and jackholes y’all. I just can’t take it any more today.

J.B.

August 11th, 2010
12:33 pm

…of course i must admit that my comment about waddell being cross-eyed in the picture on the thrashers/ajc main page did not add anything of merit to the discussion, so i apologize for that. ;-)

GaVaHokie

August 11th, 2010
12:36 pm

What exactly have the Dawgs won besides the Chik Fila Bowl?

GaVaHokie

August 11th, 2010
12:45 pm

I’d like to see Viv follow up this article with “Are the Dawgs the most overrated sports team in the South?”

Jiggs

August 11th, 2010
12:50 pm

I’d say that right now the Thrashers have more buzz. They hired a GM from the Stanley Cup champion team while the Hawks hired one from their own 2nd round losing team. Also, they have made key trades and free agent signings while the Hawks only significant offseason move was resigning a guy who a lot of fans didn’t even want back. Once the seasons starts I think the Hawks will get more buzz because there is more basketball history here than hockey history, but if the Thrashers young players continue to develop and this team gels early it could be an exciting hockey season for one of the few times in Thrasher history.

Snoman

August 11th, 2010
12:53 pm

Carlos, you have to look at the numbers on a per capita basis. Each NBA team has 12-14 players. Each NFL team has 54 players. Each college team has 85-100 players. Of course, football players are going to have more run ins with the law, they have way more players. I would like to see the per capita numbers for the correct comparison.

Snoman

August 11th, 2010
12:59 pm

I am on the Thrashers side for more buzz in the off season. I love the things that Duds is getting done. Young and hungry is an approach that Waddell never seemed to embrace. It may take some time for them to jell, but I like the direction of the franchise. Hopefully, the owners will wake up and take note that hockey can be viable in this city if they will put forth some funds and effort towards the team. Go Thrash!!

Snoopy

August 11th, 2010
1:00 pm

Neither – Both stink

Football & NASCAR are both much larger than NBA – NHL… NHL tv ratings do not even rate a whole number.. More like .9 – not even 1.0

Jiggs

August 11th, 2010
1:07 pm

Could we all please stop using the term “thug” as a comparison of athletes in one sport versus another? I know this is often used as a hot-button term to inflame people in the blogoshpere. For those who want to use “thug” as an indictment of NBA players or other sports, please consider that hockey players are also arrested during the offseason and there have been many cases of on-ice thuggery as well. Two names that immediately come to mind are Sean Avery and Patrice Cormier. If you insist on using this term, please define what your criteria is for using it.

chief of smoke

August 11th, 2010
1:09 pm

Much Bigger Buzz about the Thrashers. If they win they will easily outdraw Hucks in 2010-2011

Brendan

August 11th, 2010
1:19 pm

I come from a position of bias as (1) a hockey fan and (2) a Thrashers fan. But let me tell you why the Hawks aren’t my “buzz” right now. I know they re-signed Joe Johnson. For a franchise crippling sum, and they felt that was “the right move” for them. They’re sounding victory bells. Well, I don’t doubt that the Hawks will make the playoffs in a pathetic Eastern Conference in the NBA. But, I can tell you this much. I’ve lived here for quite some time now. I can tell you about the buzz of the Braves in ‘91. I can tell you about how the ‘honeymoon’ had worn off by ‘99, and people in this town actually walked around thinking, “When the Braves are in the NLCS or WS, then I’ll start going to games.” I can tell you that the Hawks with Smith, Blalock, Laetner, Mutombo … were kinda fun to watch. But the problem then is still the problem now … how does this NBA franchise advance past the 2nd round, into the Conference Finals? The buzz wears off, when you realize the futility of the situation. In many instances, the Braves didn’t have a plan past the N.L. teams. In many instances, there was a road block “dynasty” team waiting for the Hawks.

But for the Thrashers, there’s very little by way of expectation. Situation: Perfect, if you’re the Thrashers and you’ve done your job well. Enter Rick Dudley. It’s pretty clear to me that Dudley knows more than Waddell. Or, at a minimum, he has better LUCK. I cannot tell you, with tangible results, why Don Waddell still has a job. That’s one of the great mysteries of life, and only Bruce Levenson really knows the whole story.

If I were a ‘generic sports’ fan, trying to decide where my disposable sports entertainment dollars were going in 2010, I’d be looking at the Braves, since they are division leaders, and looking towards a playoff berth, in Bobby Cox’s final season. And let’s be honest about something, this time around, we’d all be HAPPY that the Braves lost the NLCS, for that’s a big improvement over 3-4 seasons of no playoffs. But if baseball wasn’t my cup o’tea, and neither were college sports, then I’d be looking towards the Falcons next. The radio and TV ads are everywhere, hyping up the season. I do think the Falcons, for the third straight year, could have a ‘winning record.’ I don’t know about playoffs, or what, but I’ll be watching Falcons games on TV, if not attending a few.

But even as a ‘generic sports fan,’ I’d have to be looking at the Thrashers, too. Yes, Atlanta has a hockey club, in its 11th season, and the team is just that this time around. A TEAM. Not a smattering of Superstars trying to hit their numbers. With competent Head Coaches like Craig Ramsay and John Torchetti, a new strength coach, new assistant coaches, the whole look and feel of the Thrashers lockerroom ought to be different. You should give them a look this year, if you haven’t in a while. I can’t tell you that the Thrashers didn’t renew Don Waddell for 2-3 more years. I have no idea what they’ve done with his contract. But if Dudley is given some flexibility and an enhanced budget at the trade deadline, if things are going well, I expect the Thrashers to be buyers. If that’s the case, it’ll be really fun to watch the stretch-run.

Kovalsuck

August 11th, 2010
1:25 pm

Thanks for the new blog, scalawag!

I’m WAAAY more interested in the Thrashers this season, almost as excited as I was during the spring of 2007!!

T_height

August 11th, 2010
1:46 pm

@Dave

Thugs are in the NBA but Hockey players are the ones that fight almost every game. Tell me why do you say Thugs are in the NBA. I’m pretty sure I know why you think so but i would rather you tell me.

Carlos

August 11th, 2010
1:47 pm

Snoman, Ahhhhh DUH! the figures are from percentage per capital of players so for every NBA player which was on 3 who had legal offenses in 2009 compaired to 112 pro and 353 college football players having legal offenses.

Paddy

August 11th, 2010
1:59 pm

Carlos…..the Hawks the most consistant winner in sport here in Ga.???? We have a baseball team and its record for consistancy is legendary. I am sure you wanted to say the Braves when you typed Hawks. The ASG has all but assured the Hawks will be below avg for as long as they remain in Atl.

T_height

August 11th, 2010
2:01 pm

Just because a person has run in with the law doesn’t consider them to be a thug and to make things clear, black people aren’t the only people who can be considered as thugs. I’ve realized lately how people do that when someone black become a trouble maker or does something that is against the law but I give my vote the Dream. In three years they are already considered a top team in the WNBA.

AMarm

August 11th, 2010
2:07 pm

I think the Thrashers have some good hype right now, which is somewhat shocking, but nonetheless, the Thrashers need to follow through this season. I’m glad the Thrashers can capitalize on the hype and get some more season ticket holders. What the team really needs is some fans, Fill the house and the team will have that spirit everyone wants. Atlanta can be a great sports town, Atlanta fans just need to show up.

J.C. Thompson

August 11th, 2010
2:08 pm

The NHL has the most affluent fans of any major sport, period.

Craig

August 11th, 2010
2:16 pm

The Thrashers made solid moves and the Hawks did not. Bottomline, I am looking forward to dropping the puck and not real excited about tip-off.

Gwinnett Fred

August 11th, 2010
2:19 pm

I think it’s a matter of expecations.

The Hawks won 53 games and had a plane crash to end the season. Didn’t add anyone and hired ANOTHER career assistant coach as their only move.

The Thrashers sucked, but basically acknowledged it – and went about many popular changes led by (1) Getting rid of a vastly unpopular GM, (2) Signing a goalie that might actually stop a puck now and then and (3) Trade for 1/5 of the Stanley Cup Champions.

One team is looked at as a POST SEASON dissappointment that didn’t to anything to improve and the other is looked at as a REGULAR SEASON disappointment that did several things to improve.

Hollywould

August 11th, 2010
2:20 pm

Long time hawks fan but I now look forward to the Thrash!! Hockey took some time to come around for me mainly as there were no games televised down here for many years. The hawks are treading water while the Thrash are at least trying to get better. Folks that diss hockey probably haven’t been to a game. Far more fun at a hockey game than watching Iso Joe( I could care less about the fans) Johnson.

Najeh Davenpoop

August 11th, 2010
2:43 pm

As a Hawks fan who knows little to nothing about hockey aside from the occasional AJC sports headline, I don’t think the Thrashers could have possibly had a more underwhelming offseason than the Hawks. My understanding is that while both teams picked up a player from the reigning champs, the Thrashers actually got a guy who will contribute instead of just warming the bench like the Hawks’ guy. That alone puts the Thrashers over the top. I don’t know whether the Thrashers will actually be more successful than the Hawks as a result, but they definitely couldn’t have failed more in the court of public opinion than the Hawks did.

The Real Thrash

August 11th, 2010
3:04 pm

1. This is trick question.
2. Which league has a large national TV contract?
3. Anyone who calls NBA players “thugs” is either one or worse. We know who and what you are.
4. They’re owned by the same people so they will always be second class because of money.

Dwayne

August 11th, 2010
3:24 pm

I’ll try and keep this simple
Read the article again.
It’s says nothing about thugs, tv contracts, which is more popular, etc.
Please, support your team, but don’t bash others.

Dwayne

August 11th, 2010
3:32 pm

Greg, you want Atlanta Thrasher coverage 24/7, go to Iceman’s blog. Some real knowledgable bloggers.

The Murf

August 11th, 2010
3:38 pm

I thought the Thrashers left three years ago?

Zombie Steve

August 11th, 2010
4:02 pm

Thrashers have been named the most improved team of the off season in all of the NHL. This team is posied to make some big waves; much like the Falcons did during Matt Ryan’s rookie season.

The Hawks seem to be in a slightly lower position than they were last year.

Winner: Thrashers (and it’s not even close)

Flames

August 11th, 2010
4:04 pm

Atlanta Thrashers!!!!!!! I hate it when people come over to OUR blog with their BS!!!! I’m a sports fan. I love all sports teams in Atlanta.

Stephen

August 11th, 2010
4:24 pm

Very excited for the Thrashers. Unfortunately will not financially support them till Don Waddell does not get a paycheck from the ownership. That will actually make me feel like the team is fully moving forward

Zombie Steve

August 11th, 2010
4:36 pm

Sage? Is that you??

Say what you will about D-Wad. I won’t let one individual ruin my trips to Blueland to see some icey carnage.

This team is full of nastiness and is going to be knocking the crap out of teams all season long!

Sage of Bluesland

August 11th, 2010
4:45 pm

“…Getting rid of a vastly unpopular GM [Don Waddell]…”

Umm, no they didn’t. They PROMOTED him.

Thus, everyone can keep their “change” as far as the Thrashers go…As long as ownership is consistently cheap and allows for zero accountability, then my money stays in my pocket, right where it belongs.

To keep the person who has single-handedly run this franchise into the ground would actually be funny if it weren’t so offensive.

It’s the OWNERSHIP, stupid (similar to a statement made famous by an infamous politician).

Nope, I’m not subsidizing this different shade of incompetence…You can–but I promise you one thing: I’ll get a good laugh about it…

JR

August 11th, 2010
5:11 pm

Both stink. They allow Atlanta sports fans to enjoy the beautiful early spring weather without having to miss any good sports action.

Dwayne

August 11th, 2010
5:19 pm

If Hawks hire Avery Johnson, cut loose IsoJoe and sign Shaq and one free agent other than the obvious, Bosh, Lebron). They win
But since the Thrashers promoted??LOL wadell, turned all personell decisions ove to new GM Duds, raided the Blackhawks players and a Coach, hired Ramsey, didn’t cave in to Max’s wants and didn’t over pay Macarthers park(let him walk) traded White(thank God) and got a solid goalie in Chris Mason…I’d say the Thrashers win this one.
Here is a question, Don’t yall think, as long as the Octotards own both teams, we will always have an off season of one team wins and one team loses.

Swami

August 11th, 2010
5:48 pm

Swami think way more buzz about Hawks. J.J., Smith, Pachulia, new coach, Southeast now a different division. More people care about that, Swami think. Even if Thrashers still had Kovy, there be more buzz about Hawks. No team in NHL Southeast be more interesting opponent for Thrashers than Miami Heat be for Hawks. Swami’s wife Gladys disagree, but that’s what Swami think.

Sage of Bluesland

August 11th, 2010
6:26 pm

The Thrashers are slightly more entertaining than the Chickenhawks; otherwise, the sports landscape is pretty clear: Professional Shepherding is still #1.

P.S.: Waddell isn’t such a bad guy, once you get to know him.

East Point Bob

August 11th, 2010
6:28 pm

I thought we were not going to hear from Waddell again, then he shows his ugly mug to ruin summer.

puckhead

August 11th, 2010
6:42 pm

With the NBA lockout on the horizon, the Thrashers opportunity to draw attention and new fans is at a real threshold. It is all about wins and there is no more room for excuses for lack of production. I hope Duds has assemblied the pieces that it takes to make it happen. If it doesn’t happen in the next two years I dooubt the Thrashers can have a chance of staying in Atlanta.

Cletus Dooley Earnhardt SR.

August 11th, 2010
7:20 pm

I do’nt kno abou’t any othhher sport besiedes UGA frigggin football. I doont want to see the illliterrate thugs with no klass in the ENBA. I doont want to see the commie foregners of the NHL withh no teeth and they suport that punk Oboma. im a collegee football fan and i cant stomahc any other sport besides Nescar! Pro sports are for up north lebrals!

-GO UGA!

kovy

August 11th, 2010
7:30 pm

maybe don should try quietus for that buzz he is hearing

rob

August 11th, 2010
8:06 pm

I have to say the Thrashers have the clear edge here. They have brought in an experienced, intellegent GM to replace the incompetent unaccountable Dumbwad. I have no idea how the Octotards pulled this one off, but hockey now has a chance here. An identity is being drawn up, and other teams around the league should take notice. This has the makings of a TEAM. No one trick superstar without the true heart and desire to man up. The Hawks have put together a good run of playoff appearances and still can’t draw a crowd. I would say if the Thrashers have a similar string of playoffs the crowds will be through the roof and much like it was the first years of the team.
In Dudley We Trust!!!

gcs

August 11th, 2010
8:38 pm

Way to lose Maxim Afinogenov, Atlanta Spirit!

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OldTimer

August 11th, 2010
8:40 pm

We barely support the Falcons, the Thrashers have has must chance as an ice cube on Peachtree Street in the midday sun.

Sage of Bluesland

August 11th, 2010
10:29 pm

Is “thug” the new N-word?

Jitterbugs

August 12th, 2010
7:09 am

Are you serious about the ” positive buzz” about the Thrashers. They can’t sign a face of the franchise to replace Ilya, They don’t resign their second leading scorer. The “Buff” trade looks fine, but this team is the consumate concept of fielding a middling roster maybe good enough for a 7 or 8 seed in the playoffs, and no desire to be an elite franchise…and that is not Dapper Don Waddell’s fault alone. Terrible Ownership , Terrible Concept , I see another ” gosh, darn we just missed the playoffs again this season…just wait for next year when we make a true splash in FA and Trades and the additions barely if at all meet the losses through FA and players streaming out of town.” Great town for Hockey…Franchise is the worst imaginable.

Atticus

August 12th, 2010
7:12 am

Whoever that J.B. dude is….the question asked which one is there more buzz for and as a reader, we have the right to say neither because #1–its the truth and #2 this is a public forum. I love hockey, I was a huge Flames fan and I loved it when we got the Thrashers and went to many games however after the last several years, watching the incompetence of the leadership, supporting them any more is just plain idiotic. Good fans will demand a better product and in today’s econmonic landscape, I don’t throw good money or time invested in a product until I see the people running the show are serious. The more fans exercise their rights and walk away and communicate their disgust with the ownership, the quicker we can get good owners and actually win.

Until then, I will continue to post what I want. So get off your high horse.

Putting On The Foil

August 12th, 2010
7:13 am

Does Lou, Walt, and the Pistol still play for the Hawks?

P. Bull Terrier

August 12th, 2010
8:14 am

Ooh! I know this one!

The Hawks are the basketball team that plays in Atlanta.

I’m not so sure about the Thrashers. I think maybe they’re a women’s volleyball team.

Finchdawg

August 12th, 2010
8:30 am

No buzz for either team. Most people are focused on the Braves, the Falcons, and college football. The Thrashers will improve, but not enough to get the city’s attention. The Hawks will regress due to the improvement of their rivals.

icy nards

August 12th, 2010
8:42 am

Check this out: the 2009-2010 NHL Champion WAS NOT the Chicago Blackhawks (at least according to the Stanley Cup!)

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/No-hoax-Capitals-mistakenly-engraved-on-Prince-?urn=nhl-261871

Toby

August 12th, 2010
8:46 am

The NBA is a waste.

Toby

August 12th, 2010
8:48 am

That’s not a pic of the Stanley Cup BTW…

icy nards

August 12th, 2010
8:52 am

Ah, but it’s still incorrect: Washington didn’t make the Finals last year, and the Pens didn’t lose two in a row.

fanfan

August 12th, 2010
8:53 am

Considering what liar DW is, the reality is completely opposite. Sales are down,(that’s why he talks to bring it up), there is not too much of a “buzz”and majority does not care after a decade of “moving the right direction”. Actually he says “We HAVE TO CAPITALIZE” on this buzz, etc. Yes things are bad, and he maybe on a thin ice.

coachx

August 12th, 2010
8:57 am

Hawks of course.

I care nothing for hockey………..the only reason I read the article was b/c “Hawks” was in the title.

Darkhorse

August 12th, 2010
8:59 am

I’ll give both teams close to a draw in “buzz” so far, but one is a bad buzz and the other good for a change. The Thrashers get the edge because they’ve had a more successful and intelligent summer so far with players and cap management, while the Hawks have made the buzz because of what they couldn’t do right. Wrong coach, wrong player and contract resigned(though they were in a tough spot), poor cap management(with the wrong unmovable contracts still here), roster stays the same or worse, while the rest of the east gets much tougher.

The TV and radio media in this town still lean to the Hawks when they do decide to talk about something other than football and the Braves. But all the buzz I hear or read about the Hawks this summer is what a poor offseason they’ve had, which I agree with.

The Thrashers have had a better buzz for their offseason so far, but they better add one or two more legit pieces somehow, if they want to be more than an eastern bubble seed all year.

For any casual reader and non-Thrasher fan, the Thrashers appeared to stumble on not resigning Kovy, but that’s a blessing in disguise to me, and the NHL media seems to agree. Worse would have been for him to take that 100mil Joe Johnson like deal, and cripple this franchise even further with more one dimentional play. Instead, we received three, maybe four good pieces w/managible contracts to build a deeper roster with.

But as others have said, neither team is going to win a championship until this owernership is gone, or maaaayybe has a core change in philosophy with new investors.

Andrew G

August 12th, 2010
10:59 am

Pumped up all the way out here in Colorado! This season has got bigger expectations in my books. We are making moves and it is great to see that the Thrash are more of a team, than the Coastalchuk show.

Mitun

August 12th, 2010
11:16 am

Thrashers needs to be out of ATL, what a huge disappointment to the state of GA with only one playoff appearances.

Hawks are more buzz worthy then the Thrashers.

Jeff

August 12th, 2010
12:04 pm

Looks like the Thrash are serious about improving. Love the trades.
If they want greater exposure they will need to improve radio coverage. If you live outside the perimeter you can’t listen to the games on radio. Also forget the TV games that start late out west. Nobody can stay up for them. Let’s get all the division games on TV.

Better exposure will create more fans!

BluMonkey

August 12th, 2010
12:23 pm

Thrashers…they finally made some good moves.
@Mitun… going by your logic, my beloved Braves should have been long gone out of Atlanta before the 1991 Season. Do not forget this was a team that only had 2 playoff appearances with NO PLAYOFF WINS in a 25 year span. The only disappointment to the State of GA is making such silly remarks.

rob

August 12th, 2010
12:37 pm

Chris,
This may have been better posted as a poll instead LOL! It is amazing what kind of sentiments this brings out in people.

Brendan

August 12th, 2010
1:21 pm

Wonder if that Prince of Wales trophy engavement blunder actually cost someone their job? I mean, how do explain how it happened? “Ummn, boss. A funny thing happened. Ya know how I’m in charge of engraving the Prince of Wales trophy? Yeah, but ummn … I didn’t actually follow the Stanley Cup playoffs. So, I assumed Washington won the East.” Or better still, my internet was down, so I couldn’t look it up, so asked some guy waiting for the bus. And he told me it was the Capitals. So, I went with it. In any event, we need to re-engrave it to say Philadelphia Flyers.”

A guess a really nice boss says, “That’s okay. Coulda happened to anyone, really. For what it’s worth, I thought the Capitals should have won the East, too.” :razz:

:mrgeen:

Brendan

August 12th, 2010
1:23 pm

J.C. Thompson

August 12th, 2010
2:06 pm

Looks like some people are still obsessed with superstars like Ilya Kovalchuk. For some reason Atlanta is obsessed with over-rated superstars. First of all, Kovalchuk is worth just over half what this stupid organization offered him, and were extremely lucky that he didn’t take it. With all the players acquired from the original Kovy trade has made this team extremely better. Evander Kane, Niclas Bergfors, and Zach Bogosian will all become stars, if not hall of famers eventually. So lets sit back and educate ourselves on the game of hockey, how a team should operate, or just got back to screaming “go dawgs” like they do in every trailer park across the state.

Pro-Jen Man

August 12th, 2010
2:22 pm

Just like Larry Sinclair with the married Barack Obama, the Thrashers just need to PULL OUT of Atlanta as soon as possible.

Toby

August 12th, 2010
2:49 pm

The question should be:

What’s more boring? NBA or Pro Bowling? Tough one…

Mikey

August 12th, 2010
4:05 pm

Or what’s more “fixed”…NBA basketball or pro wrestling?

Brendan

August 12th, 2010
4:10 pm

NBA is more boring than bowling.

Brendan

August 12th, 2010
4:12 pm

Mikey, at least with pro wrestling, if you don’t like the outcome, or the storyline, you can write to the company to ask to change the script. With the NBA, we’re stuck with the rosters as assembled. We can’t just “re-write the script.”

Stephen

August 12th, 2010
11:03 pm

no doubt Hawks have more buzz. who cares about the Thrashers and Hockey?

NBA sucks

August 13th, 2010
1:44 am

The Heat made the Hawks irrelevant. The thrashers look like they will have a solid young team, but i feel like all the blackhawk players just want to get the year over with and sign somewhere else. Im not sure but it seems like they all just have one year deals.

[...] Bigger buzz in Atlanta over Thrashers or Hawks? I had an interview with Thrashers president Don Waddell on Tuesday for another installation in my Catching Up With summer series . [...]

Zombie Steve

August 13th, 2010
9:45 am

Who bring more guns into the locker rooms??

NHL Rocks

August 13th, 2010
5:01 pm

Excited with new GM, new coach, and new players. Important that Thrash get off to respectable start.

doc

August 13th, 2010
6:48 pm

only one more reason to say waddell is the biggest idiot of them all. who is talking about the thrashers? the thrashers have never done anything to gain the attention or respect of anyone. let them start with something other than trades and keeping the payroll low. if they make gains then maybe next year they can be part of the buzz and i hope they get there having been a flames fan at the first game in the city and a die hard fan until they left. this team has never gotten my imagination going except for maybe thinking about going to gwinnett to see a hockey game.

bushwacker

August 13th, 2010
6:57 pm

You got it right Sutton’s Fro, its football season and nobody gives a rats a_ _ about the NBA or NHL in this town.

cheshire

August 15th, 2010
2:21 am

Hawks have more buzz, but that’s not a good thing. The Hawks buzz is negative, angry, and mostly borne out of frustration in the fanbase toward the ownership. Also, the NBA has been hurt by the whole Lebron debacle more than I think a lot of people realize… if you know the Heat are just going to crush everyone, why should you go watch your team knowing that they don’t have a chance? What Miami did deflated the hopes of a lot of fanbases and killed a good bit of fan interest, Atlanta included, which is why it wasn’t good for the league. So while the Hawks are certainly a better team than the Thrashers, there is very little hope left among their fans.

The Thrashers have less buzz, but more hope right now in their fanbase. They have hired a new GM who seems to know what he’s doing and is already making moves that have helped the team get better. The only reason they aren’t getting buzz is because hockey isn’t as popular here and the city is a little burned out on the Thrashers consistent failure. But if this GM continues to make the right moves, they will have a lot more buzz than the Hawks in the next few years.

JR

August 15th, 2010
8:16 pm

there appears to be another JR but he is not as good looking or erudite as i am.

once more, what is the status of the various unsigned players like schubert?

[...] given the job of team president after proving so incompetent as GM that he failed upwards) thinks Atlanta’s awareness of the Thrashers is growing. “Everything has been real positive so we want to make sure we capitalize on this [...]

World Be Free

August 16th, 2010
8:05 pm

No need to apologize for being a hockey fan. And I have no issue with anyone else liking annother sport. Fredom of choice

Score Check

August 16th, 2010
9:51 pm

Brendan

August 16th, 2010
10:23 pm

Why does Waddell still have his hands in “day-to-day” operations regarding roster decisions? He’s not the GM, in theory.

Jack

August 17th, 2010
10:38 am

Score check wow, thats really goofy.

Joyaman

August 17th, 2010
11:47 pm

Waddell is still involved in the team’s day-to-day operations and roster moves…
“Rick … is the best at player development. That’s why I hired him two years ago,” Waddell said. “My strengths compliment Rick’s strengths. Rick and I are side-by-side as we are making decisions. Rick doesn’t have to worry about the business side, the contracts, the budgets … because he knows I’ll handle it. When a decision has to be made, he and I sit down and make decisions that we feel are best for the long term of this franchise.”

bubb..bubbbbb…..bubbbbbb…..bbbbbbbbbbbbbllllllluuuuuuuuaaaaahhhhhhlhlhhhh !

Always feel better after you puke, doesn’t it?

Joyaman

August 18th, 2010
12:15 am

Here’s where Forbes Magazine ranked the results of DW’s “great job” last year…

“29. Atlanta Thrashers.

Attendance Rank: 30

TV Viewership Rank: 29″

How can anyone take Waddell’s opinions on building a hockey roster seriously? I’d love to witness the snickers in the room as he trys to trump a Dudley personnel move on any basis other than budget. Move away from the bar Donny, you’ve had quite enough already. You can save the drunken fairy tales for fans in another city, who didn’t view and suffer from your incompetence first-hand.

Joyaman

August 18th, 2010
1:38 am

The bottom line on DW’s TEN seasons….

Team Points
DET 1120
NJD 1033
OTT 1002
SJS 1002
DAL 993
COL 967
VAN 960
PHI 949
BUF 926
TOR 910
STL 904
BOS 904
WSH 897
NSH 879
ANA 879
CGY 879
MTL 878
CAR 869
EDM 855
LAK 848
NYR 845
PIT 841
PHX 838
CHI 823
FLA 795
TBL 783
MIN 778*
NYI 769
ATL 727
CBJ 657* * -Columbus and Minnesota joined the NHL one season after the Thrashers
giving these clubs 164 fewer potential points than Atlanta had over this period.

JR

August 18th, 2010
10:16 am

i see where there will now be a different face value printed on tickets for the same seats. for example, a saturday vs. the blackhawks will be sold for a higher face value than the same seat will sell for on a monday vs. nobody.

i would think that the atlanta spirit would try to field a better product before trying to screw ticket buyers any more.

Brendan

August 18th, 2010
12:10 pm

Joyaman, enjoyed your post. You might also include a points-percentage, as they might clear up confusion over teams that joined the league after the Thrashers.

Bill

August 18th, 2010
9:23 pm

Chris this is old new. Time for new blog.

Adam

August 19th, 2010
10:08 am

If the Thrashers could put a decent team on the ice, they’d pass the hawks. The NBA has 5 juggernauts every season so there is a good chance that in any given market that shares an NBA and NHL team, the NHL team will have a better shot to succeed in their league. Too bad for the Panthers

Brendan

August 19th, 2010
4:50 pm

I don’t know what to think about this. I suppose this guy is bound for the minors. But hey, if he has a good camp and earns a roster spot, who are we to complain?

Joyaman

August 20th, 2010
3:29 pm

Brendan:

Here you go. Thanks for the suggestion. This sort order shows the true story…

NHL Points per Game 1999-2000 through 2009-2010

Team Points GP Pts/GP
DET 1120 820 1,366
NJD 1033 820 1,260
OTT 1002 820 1,222
SJS 1002 820 1,222
DAL 993 820 1,211
COL 967 820 1,179
VAN 960 820 1,171
PHI 949 820 1,157
BUF 926 820 1,129
TOR 910 820 1,110
STL 904 820 1,102
BOS 904 820 1,102
WSH 897 820 1,094
NSH 879 820 1,072
ANA 879 820 1,072
CGY 879 820 1,072
MTL 878 820 1,071
CAR 869 820 1,060
MIN 778 738 1,054
EDM 855 820 1,043
LAK 848 820 1,034
NYR 845 820 1,030
PIT 841 820 1,026
PHX 838 820 1,022
CHI 823 820 1,004
FLA 795 820 0,970
TBL 783 820 0,955
NYI 769 820 0,938
CBJ 657 738 0,890
ATL 727 820 0,887