Updated: Thrashers avoid arbitration with Ladd

Sorry folks, but the only child starts high school Monday and I was attending freshman orientation on Thursday morning. I tweeted the news of the Andrew Ladd signing  from my cellphone during breaks (much to the unhappiness of Mrs. C-Viv.)

Here are the details:

The Thrashers signed Andrew Ladd to a one-year contract worth $2.35 million on Thursday, avoiding arbitration on the day of the scheduled hearing.

The 6-foot-2, 200-pound forward, obtained from Stanley Cup champion Chicago in June, received a qualifying offer from the team following the trade and then filed for arbitration.

Ladd earned $1.65 million last season with the Blackhawks and had 38 points (17 goals, 21 assists). Following the trade, Thrashers general manager Rick Dudley said he expected Ladd to receive a significant increase in salary.

The Thrashers acquired Ladd, a first-round pick (No. 4 overall) in 2004, from Chicago for defenseman prospect Ivan Vishnevskiy, obtained from Dallas in the Kari Lehtonen trade, and a second-round pick in 2011.

In six NHL seasons, three with Carolina and three with Chicago, Ladd, 24, has scored 149 points (63 goals, 86 assists). He won a Stanley Cup with the Blackhawks last season and with the Hurricanes in 2006.

“He does everything 150 percent,” Dudley said of Ladd following the trade. “He’ll bring the tempo of the team up, and that’s very important.”

The Thrashers have no more arbitration hearings. They walked away from an award to Clarke MacArthur and signed Ben Eager on Wednesday.

The Thrashers will now turn their attention to the signing of other non-arbitration eligible restricted free agents, such as Niclas Bergfors and Bryan Little.

The Thrashers also re-signed goaltender Peter Mannino Thursday to a two-year contract. The two-way deal is worth $500,000 in the NHL and $105,000 in the AHL. The 27-year-old played 35 games for AHL Chicago last season. He posted a 26-5-1 record with a 2.34 goals-against average and a .921 save percentage. He appeared in three NHL games for the New York Islanders in 2008-09.

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GaVaHokie

July 29th, 2010
12:17 pm

Good stuff… I’m fairly happy since Ladd still retains RFA status next summer. Eager, we’ll wait and see.

J.B.

July 29th, 2010
12:32 pm

Is there any indication they’ll go after another UFA after the non-arbitration eligible RFAs are signed?

[...] Andrew Ladd signs for 2.35 MIL Laddy Avoids Arbitration [...]

Smoothie

July 29th, 2010
12:39 pm

C-Viv, thx for the update, but someone needs to ask Duds why there’s no 2nd year for Ladd. Eager I understand but a 1-yr deal for Ladd is stupid. We obvs value him since we traded so much to get him here. Hello!

The Monkey

July 29th, 2010
12:39 pm

Now give me MAX!

Russian

July 29th, 2010
12:45 pm

Dudley made a smart move. Ladd will RFA next year (2011-2012). If he will playing good and like here, Dudley will talk about long contract. If Ladd will not play good, he will be trade to someone.
Eager is a same situation.
I am just wondering that HOW much Little and Berg ask????

Russian

July 29th, 2010
12:49 pm

**to Smoothie**
Because Ladd will be RFA next year. Dudley can play a same game with him.

Brendan

July 29th, 2010
12:57 pm

I guess this is a good deal. It’s important that he’s signed, anyway. I would have preferred to see this player forego some of his UFA eligibility to remain a Thrasher a bit longer, but it is what it is.

Jameson

July 29th, 2010
12:59 pm

Not bad. I have to admit I spent half the day looking for this news yesterday until I realized it was Wednesday.

The Real Thrash

July 29th, 2010
1:26 pm

All the smoke blowing is just that. It’s still about money. If we signed Ladd to a multi-year contract now it would cost us less in the long run. He will have the ability to go to arbitration again next year and can ask for anothet large one year contract.

Saying we want to wait and see is the same mentality that had us with revolving players in the past. Make a commitment and show players on the team and the fans we mean business and are in it for the long haul.

Worst Team In ALL Of Professional Sports

July 29th, 2010
1:28 pm

Oh thank goodness. I was afraid they might SUCK next season……

Thrashy Thrashy

July 29th, 2010
3:12 pm

Ladd may not have wanted to sign for more than one year. He’s likely to get more opportunities to pump his numbers up in Atlanta, so why wouldn’t he see if he can put together a big season and get more money?

volgrad1985

July 29th, 2010
4:06 pm

Anyone know what date training camp starts????

GaVaHokie

July 29th, 2010
4:15 pm

CraigCustance twitter… Thrashers and Ladd were both interested in long-term deal but couldn’t come to agreement on his value during UFA years.

J.B.

July 29th, 2010
4:16 pm

So if they’re using this year to establish his value, he’ll be motivated to do pretty damned well right?

ChippersLoveChild

July 29th, 2010
4:34 pm

Custance also says Max is still on our radar… but negotiations aren’t that active… ugh… SIGN HIM!!

Darkhorse

July 29th, 2010
4:35 pm

Yes, and then he will do so well, we won’t be able to afford him.

Jeff97

July 29th, 2010
4:35 pm

So now we are just one more 20+ scorer away from being pretty well set.
Anyone hear anything on Max?

I see where Wash finally added an enforcer to their lineup, trading for DJ King.

I dont think teams will be able handle us physically this year as in years past. Cant wait for this season to start and see what we really have.

squirt

July 29th, 2010
4:47 pm

i want arty /max back..use the clarke money for at least one of them, arty more likely, max is still a huge risk regardless of last season.

SiCkOfThis

July 29th, 2010
5:19 pm

Smoothie… aren’t you the a-hole that said this would go to arbitration? Don’t pretend you know what you’re blabbing about.

Chris Vivlamore

July 29th, 2010
6:30 pm

Updated the blog above with contract terms for Mannino. It’s a two-year, two-way deal worth $500,000 in the NHL and $105,000 in the AHL.

Brendan

July 29th, 2010
6:39 pm

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=535167, is the link to the Mannino deal. It’s good to get him under contract, of course. The price is right!

[...] Atlanta Thrashers came to terms with RFA Andrew Ladd on a 1-year $2.35 million deal Thursday. This signing takes care of the one remaining player of the [...]

Flames

July 29th, 2010
9:48 pm

I can’t wait for the season to start. We need another UFA!

Smoothie

July 29th, 2010
10:13 pm

Sick of This – not sure what you are talking about; I certainly didn’t predict that we’d go to arb with any of our players as we have a track record of settling “out of court”. But you are right about one thing: I am an a-hole. Thanks for being you.

Smoothie

July 29th, 2010
10:14 pm

Flames – looks like we still have some lukewarm interest in Max. I’m fine with that if it’s 1 year. You?

sisu

July 29th, 2010
11:11 pm

Max at no more than 1 year…otherwise he is likely to lose interest plus two other snipers signed only one year deal…

For The Record

July 30th, 2010
12:39 am

Well, I’ll say one thing…This place is being run like a BUSINESS now that Duds is in charge. Putting a real coaching staff in place. Pulling off what was widely regarded as an “A-/B+” performance in the draft. Picking up Mason for a song. Letting Army, Moose & Kubes walk. Picking up a handful of the Hawks fresh off a Stanley Cup. Telling MacArthur to pack his bags. Going to the brink with Eager & Ladd, then signing them both. Pretty impressive stuff for this franchise…

Schnikes, kids! It certainly appears that this team is now the “Atlanta Expendables”. I’ve said it before, as others have…But Duds will build the machine with interchangeable parts and he won’t overpay for a part he can get cheaper from somewhere else. If it was anyone else trying to build a contender on the cheap, I’d be very concerned. I really believe he’s on a mission and knows exactly what he’s doing.

You’ve gotta love a guy who puts performance before pay. Imagine a locker room where players aren’t trying to figure a way to get out of ATL by season’s end (that one’s for you Brendan), but instead they’re actually WORRIED about being a healthy scratch, not getting that big payday, being traded or not even being re-signed after this season…I hope that translates into guys who are hungry to go out and pound opponents into submission every time they hit the ice!

Looking forward to the next moves. Wouldn’t be surprised if Duds pulls a rabbit out of the hat for another scorer soon. If it doesn’t happen, then another of the kids is going to get a shot. I’m feeling pretty good either way right now. This season should be more fun than humanly possible for Thrashers Fans!!!

Brendan

July 30th, 2010
1:30 am

I think it’s right to be optimistic about the “team” play this year. That’s for sure. But I’m not too sure I agree with letting Kubina walk, as “good business.” Good business would have been to re-sign him during the season, after January 1, 2010. And if he refused to do so, after making him a ‘real offer,’ (I think he signed for $3.85 million?, where he made $5.0 million this year) then you trade at the deadline for what you can salvage, unless there’s still five playoff slots left open among 6-8 teams. Then, perhaps, you roll the dice, thinking your odds to be ‘pretty good.’ (That one’s for you, For the Record.) But I agree, that cultivating a new “atmosphere” in the lockerroom would be a big improvement over players eyeballin’ the exit upon their arrival at Hartsfield Airport, for assignment to the Thrashers.

For the Record, did Kovalchuk sign that $100 million/10-year deal with the Islanders yet? He is, after all, only interested in money, right? Why work “FREE” for the Devils … for seven more years (to make 17 years in total) … for essentially the very same money? We know it can’t be for “lifestyle” purposes, since the Devils and Islanders rinks are only separated by a few miles, as a crow flies.

Flames

July 30th, 2010
9:50 am

Smoothie I would love to Max back for only a 1 year contract. That’s the hold up. Max wants a 2/3 year deal. Duds want do that.

For The Record

July 30th, 2010
10:57 am

I like Kubina and if you knew in advance he was going to run out of steam down the stretch (like I think he did), then a trade makes since. Not even Dudley can predict the future. Thankfully, Waddell didn’t sign him to some unforgivable contract mid-season or orchestrate a trade, since he was skilled in neither category and he still had the GM title throughout the season.

But you win some, you lose some. I wouldn’t have paid Army $3M/yr for 3 years but Burke would, so more power to him. Grossman wanted Moose in NY Metro and he got him there. Kubina went “home” for a 2-yr contract, a length that’s in short supply right now. So Mason walked from the Blues and we “steal” him. We get Ladd (at least for a year) for a prospect and 2nd round pick. These are all pretty much win-win situations for all the players and clubs involved. How rare is that?

As far as I know, Kovy never got an “official” offer from the Isles. Who knows what would’ve happened if he had. But yeah, it’s no secret that Grossman wants his guys up in the NY Metro area, so I can believe he was behind the stories of the Isles entering the sweepstakes near the end. And I know you don’t think for one second that Kovy will still be working the final 5 years of the contract for $550k/yr. Nobody does, and that’s the problem. Oddly enough, there are reports now that the KHL is offering a 17-year contract (since it’s not about the money, but job security into his mid-40s, right?) and his choice of team.

It was always about the money for Grossman, and he convinced Kovy he was worth a max contract here, nothing less. Grossman doesn’t have to play. The problem is he overestimated Kovy’s value on the open market and they worked the Kings and Devils to at least get more ($102M) than the $101M he turned down here. If it weren’t for Madman Lou in NJ, there wouldn’t have even been a “bidding war”, unless you consider the KHL (and I have no doubts that Kovy has seriously considered it).

In any event, it should be fun to watch the Kovalchuk Saga unfold in the courtroom (if it even gets that far). I’m just glad we’re no longer the center of attention on this one. It’s a distraction we don’t need.

Matt

July 30th, 2010
12:01 pm

A lot is riding on this upcoming season. A ton of players have their contracts coming up… I think after next season, we’ll have Pavs, Mason, Antropov, Slater and Enstrom under contract and that’s about it.

Granted, I haven’t seen them contribute yet, but our inability to keep UFAs in Atlanta is very troublesome and I’d hate to see the fruits of all these trades just walk away at season’s end. I think a good season from the Thrashers THIS YEAR is crucial to their future success. With Washington in the mix and Tampa (Lecavlier, St. Louis, Stamkos, Gagne, oh my) improving greatly this off-season, it’s going to take a lot of work to make the playoffs, but I think we can do it.

Lord Stanley

July 30th, 2010
1:12 pm

Regarding Max what about a year contract with the 2nd year being an option

icy nards

July 30th, 2010
4:04 pm

Get Max, and we’re no worse than 2nd in the Southeast. Do it! Do it NOW!!!!

Swami

July 30th, 2010
4:36 pm

Since Kovy no come back, Max could help Thrashers. Not sure why Kovy no want to come back, though. Is it too hot in Atlanta? It not that hot. Why they call it Hotlanta? When Swami grow up in Bolivia, now that hot!

Brendan

July 30th, 2010
4:51 pm

For The Record, I completely agree that Kovy won’t be playing the back end of that contract. I think it’s flat-out “fraud” on the part of both the Devils and Kovalchuk, to suggest he’d still be playing in 2027. I keep hearing, in my private conversations, that the Devils are ’saving money’ with this contract. I cannot figure out how they are? By front-loading the contract, there is a greater possibility that the player will retire early, having no real need to complete the remaining years to get paid. And if Kovy should, by some freakish “Brett Favre-like” media attention need, continue playing right to age 44 … then the Devils are still experiencing a $6 million cap hit, while only paying him $550,000. Ummn, wouldn’t the Devils ’strong arm’ him into retirement, at that point? Raise your hand if you think Kovalchuk will drag his bones to the rink for 7-9 months, to collect $550,000, while costing his team $6 million in cap hit?

I don’t see many hands up in the air. Good job. Fraud is fraud.

Thrasherspuck

July 30th, 2010
9:31 pm

Bet thrash look to move White to cover a little more $ for Max

For The Record

July 30th, 2010
10:44 pm

The latest I heard is the Kovy arbitration starts Mon or Tues, should last a couple of days and then a decision comes no more than 48 hrs later. It should be resolved by the end of next week:

“From what I’ve been told, the system arbitrator will mostly likely only rule whether the NHL’s rejection of the contract was valid or not. If the arbitrator rules that the contract was a circumvention of the CBA and the salary cap, then Kovalchuk will become an unrestricted free agent again. If the arbitrator rules that the contract does comply with the CBA, then the NHL must approve and register the contract.

According to the CBA, the system arbitrator would also have the option of reworking the contract if he decides it is a circumvention of the CBA—depending upon the reason it is a circumvention. (The team and the player would then have three days to agree upon a different contract that complies with the CBA, if they chose) The NHL apparently cited more than one reason for rejecting the contract in the rejection letter and that could play into that option.”

While I agree it’s pretty obvious the contract structure was meant to get around the cap (fraud), weird things happen in a courtroom and the outcome is always unpredictable. As for saving the Devils “cap hit money”, I’d say that’s a big YES in Lou’s time. I don’t think he cares what happens 12+ years down the road when someone has to deal with the final years of it – if indeed anyone even has to. Say he retires with 5 yrs left…Those 12 yrs of $6M annual cap hits should’ve been more like $8.3M and $27.6M of cap hits over 12 yrs just get swept under the rug. Obviously that’s the NHL’s problem with it…But maybe it’s just Lou looking out for Lou (even though owner Vanderbeek was apparently the one behind the push to re-sign Kovy).

TB was at it again today and signed Dominic Moore for 2yrs, $2.2M total as a probable 3rd line C. The Thrash & TB are 2 teams doing things right very quickly and those will be GREAT games to go to this season!

On a lighter note…Was playing NHL2K9 with one of my boys earlier and Exelby checked one of the Blue Jackets over the boards and into the bench. He almost hit the Gatorade cooler. Never seen that before. The announcer said, “What a great shoulder check…And now he’s visiting with his teammates.” :-) The season can’t get here soon enough for us…

Lee

July 31st, 2010
9:25 am

According to Atlanta thrashers.com, they have signed AHL goalie Peter Mannino to a multiple year deal. I have to say he’s pretty good!

Bring back the MAX

July 31st, 2010
1:44 pm

Sign MAX – he is fun to watch – period.

Jameson

July 31st, 2010
6:43 pm

To everyone concerned that the Ladd deal wasn’t longer: I must say that while I would have preferred a 3 or 4 year deal, I most certainly prefer a 1 year deal to a 2 year deal. This way we still have a chance to knock out some of his UFA years on his next and final RFA deal. I think a 2 year deal would’ve made it look a lot more like he was trying to “Armstrong” us.

Thrasherspuck

July 31st, 2010
8:18 pm

Ladd’s happy with the deal and ready to earn a bump in $ in 2011

JLH

August 1st, 2010
10:05 pm

Jameson – Agreed!

Brendan

August 1st, 2010
10:34 pm

WBF, the Oilers re-signed Jeff Deslauriers on a 1-year/$1.05 million, per TSN.ca. It’s funny to read the comments underneath. There seems to be a lot of Oiler fans throwing the Bulin Wall under the bus, wanting him traded or waived. I wouldn’t have thought that. I’m sorry Khabibulin got hurt, but maybe his back has made a full recovery? I know. I know. “Goalies and back injuries are a bad combination.”

For The Record

August 2nd, 2010
7:34 am

Just read the the RANGERS TOOK TODD WHITE – - Can this be true??? Rozsival and a 4th rounder are said to be in the package. Todd White GONE?!?! Yippeee Ki Ya MF!!!!!!

Russian

August 2nd, 2010
7:55 am

I heard that rumor also. Is it 100%? Dudley rules. I cannot believe it.

TheFan79

August 2nd, 2010
8:12 am

It look like gods have spoken .Go Thrashers

For The Record

August 2nd, 2010
8:40 am

Usually when there are this many reports surfacing, it’s true on some level. The entire deal is what’s yet to be released.

It’s like I woke up in The Twilight Zone this morning. Just listen to the spin being put on this by the media for NYR fans:

“…he is a very solid piece to have on the ice. He is pretty much a lock for 40+ points…”

“White not only brings some veteran savvy to a very young team, but he also comes with 43 playoff games of experience under his belt…”

“White brings quite a bit to the table, and even in his advanced age he has a ton of upside.”

I read that and almost think we got hosed on any deal letting a guy like that get away…Then I remember it’s Todd White we’re talking about. A whopping 7 G & 19 A in 65 games last yr. I don’t see much positive spin on the numbers when you’re talking a $2.375M cap hit for that…Throw in a little shoulder surgery for good measure.

Lee

August 2nd, 2010
9:01 am

For the Record and Russian – What website??

Russian

August 2nd, 2010
9:07 am

*to Lee*
Chris V. twitter.
Damn!
We got old Brashir and Rissmiller for white :-(