Update II: Thrashers trade for Clarke MacArthur

The Thrashers obtained Clarke MacArthur from Buffalo for a third- and fourth-round pick this year.

MacArthur, a left wing, has 13 goals and 13 assist in 60 games. He is a minus-14 this season. The 24-year-old is 5-foot-11, 191 pounds and is a restricted free agent. He makes $1.4 million.

Over four seasons with the Sabres, MacArthur has 79 points (41 goals, 38 assists) and is a minus-11.

The move was the only one of the day for the Thrashers, meaning Slava Kozlov will remain with team despite his request to be traded. Kozlov said today that he would considering playing in the KHL next year to continue his career if he doesn’t land with another NHL team.

New addition Evgeny Artyukhin has arrived and skated. He practiced along with Rich Peverely and Max Afinogenov. Coach John Anderson says don’t read too much into that yet. He was just getting a look at the new forward.

Chris Chelios cleared waivers, assigned to Chicago.

Nik Antropov did not skate, which is not unusual as he nurses a nagging hip injury.

Lines:

Bergfors-White-Little

Artyukhin-Peverley-Afinogenov

Kane-Slater-Armstrong

Boulton-Reasoner-Thorburn-Kozlov

UPDATE II:

Here are some quotes from Waddell about the acquisitions and team. Think what you will:

On the trade: “We said all along going into the trade deadline that we believe in our team, we really like our team. We are going to be buyers and not sellers. The last couple of days we made a couple of acquisitions picking up Evgeny Artyukhin and Clarke MacArthur that strengthen our group of forwards. When you look back at the trade for Ilya Kovalcuk we added [Johnny] Oduya and [Niclas] Bergfors. We really liked the way our team had been playing and we weren’t going to take away from that team. We wanted to make sure we kept adding to that team.

“I think this is a strong statement to our players, to our fans, that we believe we can make the playoffs and that’s why we were buyers and not sellers.”

On MacArthur: “Really good skater, good puck sense, good hockey sense. Plays hard. Not overly big, but he plays bigger than his size. … Speed is becoming really important in the game and our team gets around the ice as well as anybody else. Having bring that speed and bring the forecheck, you are going to make it hectic on another team’s defense.

“I think he’ll be a second- or third-line guy. The way we look at our top nine forwards are right now, we’d be hard press to say what is our number one line, our number two, our number three line is. I think if you are going to have success in the NHL you have to have three lines that can score. … We’ll find a spot in there for him and go from there.”

On Artyukhin: “We all think his skill level is greater than what he’s been able to show. We think he skates very well, a very physical player that can forecheck. Given a chance to play more minutes in certain situations will be more positive. Starting off with us here, he’ll probably start off in a fourth-line role and see where we go with it.”

On possibility of other trades: “Not really. We talked to a lot of teams. The prices were high and we really wanted to add a forward with speed and grit and MacArthur is the kind of guy that we focused on. We stayed in touch with everybody out there that was available. At the end of the day we felt this was the deal that was best for us. We had a lot of calls from teams that thought we would sell off guys, especially our UFA guys. I made it clear that was not the avenue we were going to take.”

On so many forwards: “We’ve got 15 forwards. We recognize that’s going to be an issue. Everyone is healthy right now which is a very good thing. We have 17 games this month and to think we are going to get through this stretch thinking we are going to be healthy we’ll be very fortunate. We’ll address it. Now we’ve got competition for jobs. I look at it as a very healthy situation. If you play well, you’re going to continue to play. If you have a bad night or a night off, there are other guys waiting to take your job. I look at it as a very competition and healthy situation.”

On not trading Kozlov: “There wasn’t a buyer for [him]. We had small interest early in the day and as the day went on that weeded. We couldn’t move him so he’s still a Thrasher and is going to be one for the rest of the year.

“We never had an offer to bring to him.”

123 comments Add your comment

J.B.

March 3rd, 2010
10:39 am

What about the two on your shoes?

J.B.

March 3rd, 2010
10:40 am

… sorry, Chris. Couldn’t resist.

Thrasher_Ed

March 3rd, 2010
10:46 am

Chris,
Hearing any likely destinations for Kozlov?

J.B.

March 3rd, 2010
10:57 am

TFP reported a while back that a deal for Kozlov was near but didn’t specify a destination.

FormerIslesFan

March 3rd, 2010
11:00 am

C-Viv,

If “Arty” is with Max and Pevs, is White at practice? If so, what is the line set-up for the whole team?

J(Z)

March 3rd, 2010
11:10 am

Apparently Antropov is the one not at practice

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
12:02 pm

What was the comment about Hainsay, summoned off ice but don”t thing its due to a trade?

FlamesFan

March 3rd, 2010
12:02 pm

It’s 12:00. I guess Chelios cleared waivers.

Midfield

March 3rd, 2010
12:17 pm

The one trade I wouldn’t mind is shipping Hainsey out some place. Sorry, Ron, but $3+M for this? No way.

Crickets

March 3rd, 2010
12:52 pm

Mary Ann Hossa

March 3rd, 2010
12:55 pm

This is the slowest blog in the history of the AJC

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
1:10 pm

Thrasher_Ed

March 3rd, 2010
1:12 pm

It might help if Chris actually was doing a live blog and asking for thoughts on deals made so far.

Thrasher_Ed

March 3rd, 2010
1:13 pm

Went down to the Bulb last night and the team looked like they are playing hard. I just wish our ownership and management team was doing it’s part in a similiar manner!

Mary Ann Hossa

March 3rd, 2010
1:17 pm

Nothing – and I don’t count signing a 48 year old as news

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
1:21 pm

or how Arty looked

Mary Ann Hossa

March 3rd, 2010
1:21 pm

No news is good news with DW. I guess. He usually get the garbage no one else wants.

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
1:26 pm

True That or Foil Men for that matter

Gwinnett Fred

March 3rd, 2010
1:36 pm

I’m certainly trying to stay optimistic.

And to that end – the team has always sucked with 1 (maybe 2) studs on the roster and the rest AAA type calibur, or at least play like it.

The encouraging thing I’ve seen in the last 5 games since Kovy finally admitted he was lying all along about wanting to stay – is that we are averaging 1.33 points per game as opposed to 1.02 before the trade.

Saying that in a more meaningful format, that’s a pace for 109 points as opposed to 84 points.

WHY – it looks to me like it’s more of a TEAM and not the Kovy show.

We’re only a point out of the playoffs with games in hand and a ton of home games coming up (where we’ve actually been 11-5-1 after that horrible home start).

Bottom line – I want a reason to go to games. Watching Kovy was exciting, but I’ll go more often if my team is competitive grinding it out like last night and hopefully they will keep playing that way and more fans will agree and support the team.

No, I don’t work for the Thrashers – just a long suffering fan of both the Thrash and Flames that thinks this city deserves more than TWO playoff wins in 18 seasons and wants to see it happen before this teams heads out of town too!

TableHockey

March 3rd, 2010
1:47 pm

Seems like the team is playing pretty well together lately and in that sense I would be okay without any further trades. Though it would be a shame to not get something for the UFAs that we can’t resign.

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
1:52 pm

Our old friend, Eric Belanger, a pending UFA, has been traded to the Washington Capitals from the Minnesota Wild. We’ll get to see him a few more times between now and the end of the season.

Are you excited? I am. I hope he flops as badly with the Caps as a “rental” as he did here, as a “rental.”

woody

March 3rd, 2010
1:54 pm

This just in…. the entire Thrashers team has been traded/banished to Vancouver…in this blockbuster team for team trade we will recieve the Canadian Olympic Womens Hockey team.

Now thats some improvement, we just might make the playoffs.

JimG

March 3rd, 2010
1:58 pm

Hope those canadian women bring cigars and beer

MB

March 3rd, 2010
1:58 pm

GFred, must have missed Kovy’s admission that he was lying about wanting to stay in Atlanta. What exactly did he say?

Smoothie

March 3rd, 2010
2:02 pm

Belly flopped! Get it…ha ha ha ha. Actually, he tanked in the playoffs. After the west coast roadie, he played quite well w/ Hoslov.

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
2:08 pm

MB good point did he also see him flop in the olympics?

Gwinnett Fred

March 3rd, 2010
2:13 pm

Well MB – I’m just an old fart that believes actions speak louder than words.

And when we (1) bring in guys he wants us to bring in; (2) are in playoff contention and (3) offer to make him the highest paid player in NHL history – that tells me we met his requests and were still left at the alter. Translation just in case you are having problems with putting 2 and 2 together: He LIED about wanting to stay here as long as the team showed him a reason to stay – he was given 110 million reasons to stay.

Heck, even Barry Melrose flat said in an interview on 680 last week “he (Kovalchook as he pronounces it) had not intention of staying in Atlanta”.

If you somehow are holding a delusional thought that everything Kovy and his agent were feeding Waddell the last 1+ years was totally legit – then I have some beautiful beachfront property in downtown Snellville I’d like to sell you too!

Mike

March 3rd, 2010
2:14 pm

From ESPN Chat: Pierre LeBrun: Note from Thrashers front office source, “stay tuned.” Something is coming down the pipe from Atlanta

Sage of Bluesland

March 3rd, 2010
2:20 pm

Kovalchuk wanted the chance to compete for a Cup win–something Atlanta, as led by this ownership and GM, will never deliver.

Never.

To believe otherwise is the definition of delusion.

J.B.

March 3rd, 2010
2:21 pm

Mike – thank goodness. DW sure likes to wait until the last minute huh?

WJ

March 3rd, 2010
2:25 pm

somebody wake Chris up. Either a lot of trades going down and he is working hard to get them all down or he has simply fallen asleep.

WJ

March 3rd, 2010
2:27 pm

Forget Kovy. He got what he wanted and it wasn’t anything to do with the Thrashers, regardless of what he said time and again, he wanted to go elsewhere. Kiss him goodbye. Forget him already!

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
2:27 pm

Chris is tryiong to locate the closest Starbucks

WJ

March 3rd, 2010
2:29 pm

Starbucks – There is one in New York he can go to.

WJ

March 3rd, 2010
2:30 pm

Breaking news – entire Thrashers team traded. waiting for details.

MB

March 3rd, 2010
2:31 pm

No need to get all pi$$y, Fred. YOU wrote “Kovy finally admitted he was lying all along about wanting to stay,” so I was just curious to hear what he said. You did NOT write that “Kovy’s admission” was your interpretation of his actions and that Barry Melrose said something that agreed with your assessment, hardly groundbreaking stuff. Maybe Kovy did LIE about wanting to stay here, just as you LIED about him admitting it.

I don’t doubt that he had no intention of staying here, and fully expect him to sign elsewhere in the off-season for less than we offered. While I would have preferred he handled it differently, I certainly can’t blame him for wanting to get away from D-Wadd and the ASG as he enters the prime years of his career.

WJ

March 3rd, 2010
2:31 pm

By the way, what is the time deadline on trades?

WJ

March 3rd, 2010
2:33 pm

Kovy is gone – Kovy is gone – Kovy is gone. Thrashers won.

fes

March 3rd, 2010
2:34 pm

WJ

March 3rd, 2010
2:38 pm

fes
thanks. guess Chris will have something for us shortly.

Smoothie

March 3rd, 2010
2:38 pm

You guys are a barrel of laughs. Especially Sage who is apparently some disgruntled former intern from the early days of ASG.

Alan R.

March 3rd, 2010
2:38 pm

WJ, 3pm Eastern. Trades will still be announced after that time, however, because 3pm is merely the time the league office has to know about them.

Mary Ann Hossa

March 3rd, 2010
2:39 pm

Pierre LeBrun: Atlanta Thrashers have acquired forward Clarke McArthur from the Buffalo Sabres

zippy

March 3rd, 2010
2:40 pm

Clarke McArthur! Good pickup. He crashes the net

Alan R.

March 3rd, 2010
2:40 pm

3rd rnd + 4th rnd to Buffalo for Clarke MacArthur.

Want My Floor Seats?

March 3rd, 2010
2:41 pm

Gave up a 3rd and a 4th rd pick for him…

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
2:41 pm

Thrash got Clark Mcarthure from sabres for 3rd and 4th draft pick

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
2:42 pm

Any more thrash trades?

kracker

March 3rd, 2010
2:44 pm

He’s a LW…wondering if they found a home for Slava?

brett

March 3rd, 2010
2:45 pm

Thats the move we’ve all been waiteing for!!! Clarke MacArthur!!

Tale of Woe

March 3rd, 2010
2:49 pm

Pierre LeBrun:
Just got a note from Bruins front office saying Tim Thomas will NOT be traded

Got a note from Thrashers front office saying Slava Kozlov and Colby Armstrong “still in play” with minutes ticking to 3 p.m. ET

Mike

March 3rd, 2010
2:54 pm

Glad to hear that Kubina is not still in play. Guess they really are working to resign him.

Dwayne

March 3rd, 2010
2:55 pm

MacArthur’s park is melting…

erock

March 3rd, 2010
2:57 pm

MCARTHUR IS A GOOD PICK UP…. YOUNG 24…. CRASHES THE NET AND JUST SIGNED A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT.

ChippersLoveChild

March 3rd, 2010
2:57 pm

I hope Army stays… the chemistry on that line has been solid, I’d hate to see them broken up while we are in this race. Who cares if we lose Colby in the offseason, it’s not like he is going to bring a huge return if traded.

Lee

March 3rd, 2010
3:04 pm

Deadline passed

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
3:05 pm

Awesome trade for MacArthur. I can’t believe it. Waddell fleeced the Sabres. Why on EARTH would Buffalo do this trade???

Tale of Woe

March 3rd, 2010
3:06 pm

And now we wait on Slava and Armstrong

Old Time Hockey

March 3rd, 2010
3:08 pm

Armstrong is overrated. Every now and again he does something and I’ll think “wow what a play….why doesn’t he do that more often?” But then he disappears for a while. Great tools, but show me the money.

Gwinnett Fred

March 3rd, 2010
3:09 pm

erock:

Reading MacArthur is a RFA after the season, not under contract. Still a good pickup, but not as good as if he was under contract!

James Brown

March 3rd, 2010
3:09 pm

Clarke M. deal looks good to me…………………….He will help us down the stretch big time…………….still waiting on word about Slava

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
3:10 pm

Sabres coughed up Nathan Paetsche + conditional 2nd rounder to get LW Raffi Torres. I like Paetsche, and wonder what the condition is of that 2nd rounder, but Buffalo did well to get Torrest. But I cannot approve of Buffalo moving MacArthur to the Thrashers for some ‘throw away’ 3rd and 4th rounders. I don’t care HOW HIGH they might be, coming from Atlanta. If you’re Buffalo, you should keep MacArthur.

Hey, it’s good for the Thrashers! And anything good for the Thrashers, is A-okay in my book.

James Brown

March 3rd, 2010
3:13 pm

The Thrashers are really starting to stockpile a lot of good young players that can play in the NHL right now……………..I like this base of talent

Sage of Bluesland

March 3rd, 2010
3:14 pm

Finally, the missing piece to the Stanley Cup puzzle!!!

(maybe we’ll even make the playoffs this year…any “promises” from Donnie on that?)

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
3:14 pm

Another thing, I think MacArthur is going to play more minutes here. So, he’s gotta to like that aspect of this trade. Now, I cannot comment on whether he likes leaving a playoff-bound team in contention for a division title to come to Atlanta for the next few seasons. But hey, that’s the way the cookie crumbles, MacArthur Park.

I welcome Clarke MacArthur here. I hope he likes it here. And I hope he’ll re-sign here, when his contract comes due. I love this move. I really, truly do. See?? See how when Waddell does something GOOD, I give him credit. I’m not just a “basher.” I like this trade. MacArthur park still needs some work. But he’s young! A former 3rd rounder, 74th overall, I believe. In Buffalo’s shoes, I wouldn’t have quit on this guy. But hey, Lindy Ruff and Darcy Regier must have felt that he was expendable, if they pulled the trigger on this deal.

Gwinnett Fred

March 3rd, 2010
3:17 pm

Regarding MacArthur:

Don’t everybody be THAT stunned Buffalo dealt him when you see:

(a) He was 17th on that team in ice time and (b) on a team with an overall +13, he was a team worst -14.

Doesn’t mean he won’t help the Thrash, but I think most folks are overstating how much Buffalo is crazy for trading him.

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
3:29 pm

I thought he jest resigned to a multi-year deal with the Sabres

brett

March 3rd, 2010
3:33 pm

Look like no more trades for the Thrashers. Slava, Kubina and Army stay.

WJ

March 3rd, 2010
3:34 pm

J(Z)

March 3rd, 2010
3:34 pm

Here’s what I put together

Bergfors-Antropov-Little /
Afinigenov-MacArthur-Peverley /
Kane-Slater-Armstrong /
Thorburn-Reasoner-Artuykhin

Tale of Woe

March 3rd, 2010
3:35 pm

Thrashers will be considered losers of the trade deadline if Slava isn’t traded. I would have given him away for a 7th rounder just to make him happy. Also disappointed we didn’t get something for Armstrong. DW lets us down again

Gwinnett Fred

March 3rd, 2010
3:36 pm

Reading from the Buffalo press:

MacArthur was offered to Carolina last week (not said what for, but obviously the Canes didn’t want to give up a 3rd & 4th for him).

Fan vote is running 2-1 in favor of liking what the Sabres did (though only 600 votes) – so obviously that -14 didn’t make him a real fan favorite.

The Buffalo News also states that indeed he is a RFA next year and the Sabres had to dump him to clear cap space.

All this says to me that hopefully, he’ll be happy to come to a place that will (hopefully) welcome him and give him a fresh start since he was on the outs in Buffalo (and hey, they are a better hockey team, but it’s STILL located in Buffalo!)

The Real Thrash

March 3rd, 2010
3:38 pm

13 goals and 13 assist in 60 games. He is a minus-14
That will propel us into the playoffs!

Mike M

March 3rd, 2010
3:39 pm

So that is 15 forwards can anyone be sent down with out waiving them?
If not why pick up rental players just to waive RFA and get nothing back and if that is the case why stop playing Slava to put White in as bad as he has played all season?

Tale of Woe

March 3rd, 2010
3:39 pm

Pierre LeBrun:
Thrashers GM DOn Waddell confirms Slava Kozlov and Colby Armstrong stay put

The Real Thrash

March 3rd, 2010
3:42 pm

Needs more time?
“Over four seasons with the Sabres, MacArthur has 79 points (41 goals, 38 assists) and is a minus-11.” That will certainly help replace the Kovy scoring.
When will the fans expect more than just “hope.”

James Brown

March 3rd, 2010
3:51 pm

Was it last year Kovy was a -15 or so at one point…………that being said, I will always agree with Bob Hartley that the plus minus thing “doesn`t mean a hill of beans”. I agree with Brendan……….. Mac will get more minutes here so let the show begin and see what he does.

CA Thrasher Fan

March 3rd, 2010
3:52 pm

This is a good deal going forward. MacArthur will easily slot into Army’s spot on the 3rd line, providing better speed and a bit more offensive upside. I would expect to see an increase in his production simply by virtue of moving from a defense-first system in Buffalo to the more uptempo style of the Thrashers. This is all about continuing to build young depth as a TEAM and nothing to do with replacing Kovalchuk’s production.

StateBird

March 3rd, 2010
3:56 pm

Watching the Brian Burke press conference on NHL Network. Would love to have a real GM with a solid plan and straight talk.

StateBird

March 3rd, 2010
3:59 pm

Not a fan of the MacArthur trade. Undersized, non-scoring threat, and defensive liability as indicated in his +/- numbers (worst on team). Would prefer to give Dudley a shot with those 2 picks.

J-man

March 3rd, 2010
3:59 pm

Buffalo is easily under the cap. My best guess is that they didn’t really like what they saw and didn’t potentially want to pay more (MacArthur didn’t make a lot over the minimum) to re-sign him in the summer. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

David

March 3rd, 2010
4:00 pm

You want a team that’s 2nd to last in the NHL too StateBird? Brian Burke is hands down the most overrated GM in the business.

KLS1

March 3rd, 2010
4:05 pm

Whatever is going on with Kozlov, they will need him to make the playoffs. He and Anderson need to bury the hatchet and let him go score some goals.

Scoring is going to be hard to come by down the stretch, if Vokoun played last night we would have lost.

Emerald green couch

March 3rd, 2010
4:11 pm

How come these guys are missing so many teeth?

Tincup9

March 3rd, 2010
4:12 pm

Neither a borrower nor lender be eh Don?
so we essentially, “Picked up Armstrong” to be a rental role player on our 3rd line, and signed Kozlov and Chelios as insurance? I mean, that is what not moving Slava or Colby really equates to. I still have no idea why we signed Chelios and where someone MUST be sent down at this point? Who gets waived? White? Kozlov?

Mary Ann Hossa

March 3rd, 2010
4:15 pm

Pierre LeBrun: Thrashers GM DOn Waddell confirms Slava Kozlov and Colby Armstrong stay put

Why the hell does DW always put his business out there and doesn’t do anything? Meaning he said a week ago Slava wanted out and he was going to accomodae that. Then with Armstrong today he confirmed he was being shopped. DW needs to shut up and make the moves. He looks like a complete idiot when he can’t get anything done. Armstrong does not like ATLANTA. He is just like Kovy.

Mary Ann Hossa

March 3rd, 2010
4:16 pm

further, DW said we were buyers. I didn’t have this Buffalo player in mind.

kracker

March 3rd, 2010
4:17 pm

Looks like quite a good pickup in McArthur. He’s a known asset because he played for Cunneyworth, who’s good working with young talent. He cost us not much (a 3rd and 4th). He will get more minutes in JAs system so signing him as RFA next summer shouldn’t be a problem.

So…with 15 forwards now, we will see how the lines form up, who lives in the press box, who gets sent down (if possible) or who gets waived.

MB

March 3rd, 2010
4:31 pm

Statebird, saw the same press conference and thought the same thing. Sigh.

Was NOBODY interested in Slava? I mean, given the situation, wouldn’t you take just about anything…even “future considerations”…just to let the guy go to a different situation?

Good work by both Shero and MacPhee…both Pittsburgh and Washington should be tougher outs after today.

Bob

March 3rd, 2010
4:37 pm

“You want a team that’s 2nd to last in the NHL too StateBird? Brian Burke is hands down the most overrated GM in the business.”

And with clueless fans like this, we wonder why Don Waddell still has a job? lol

chief of smoke

March 3rd, 2010
4:48 pm

MB.. my guessing is no team wanted Kozlov’s $3.7M contract. We may need to waive him perhaps someone may claim him on Re-Entry Waivers where the Thrashers and his new team would each pay half od his contract

Jimbo

March 3rd, 2010
4:55 pm

Armstrong is one of the slowest skaters in the NHL and really doesn’t show me much. Don’t know much about MacArthur but he can’t be as slow. Suspect that Kozlov drew little interest and will be released to cut his own deal. Don’t be surprised if Chelios ends up here to add veteran presence to the playoff push. Could be a Keith Tk. type of spark.

Always Hoping......

March 3rd, 2010
5:15 pm

What I like is the Islanders will be without Andy Sutton tomorrow. This may give us more chances to get the puck to the net. The guy is a shot blocking machine.

White did well last night. Besides the goal he did great in the penalty kill and won a few key face-offs. That being said it should be an interrsting line up tomorrow.

MB

March 3rd, 2010
5:19 pm

CoS, I think you’re right. Even at a third of that $3.7 for the remainder of the year, that’s still a lot to pay for a rapidly-depreciating asset, though I kinda believe that Slava would be more motivated in a different environment and put forth a better overall effort. Appreciative of his contributions over the years and would rather see him go out on the ice as opposed to the press box, but we clearly have no need for him here.

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
5:26 pm

People, we shouldn’t expect MacArthur Park to hang the moon. He’s not a “hang the moon” kind of player. But I genuinely believe we did very well in this acquisition. Any moment now, someone will post it’s a good thing I’m not a GM because I’d be fleeced in a poker game, forver tipping my hand.

Here’s how I think it happened. Waddell calls up Buffalo to ask, “anything for sale?” Buffalo says, “We’re shopping MacArthur, you interested?” Waddell says, “We’re always ‘interested.’ What are you asking in return?” Buffalo says, “A second rounder.” Waddell says, “C’mon. For a 2nd rounder, we can find better than MacArthur. How ’bout a third rounder? We’ll do that.” Buffalo counters, “How ’bout 3rd rounder ANNND a 4th rounder?” Knowing what garbage is available at picks #98 and #128, Waddell agrees.

Rocket science? I hardly think so. I think Atlanta won this trade. And I don’t mean maybe. But I’d be lying to you if I said MacArthur doesn’t still need to be “coached up.” He does. Maybe Cunneyworth will do that for him? Players, even at the NHL level, still need to be developed, and developed properly. It’s not a task left exclusively to Juniors, the NCAA, some U-17 or U-18 developmental program, or the many and various minor leagues.

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
5:38 pm

Final thoughts on Slava. If we bump him to the 4th line, playing “Eric Boulton-like minutes,” I think we’ll be fine. If we wind up in a shootout, he’s still there for us. And you just KNOWWWWWW … that at some point … Atlanta will be in another shootout. And Kozlov will take the shot. And Kozlov will score. And bloggers will post here, “Good thing he wasn’t traded.”

That’s just how things go, ’round here. And well, if no one was biting on Kozlov, or Kozlov wouldn’t go to Nashville, Minnesota, Phoenix or Anaheim, then that’s that. It’s his NTC. And it’s up to him to waive it or not. Like I’ve said all along with Kozlov, there’s almost nothing we can do with a 3-year contract that contains a no trade clause, at that salary, for a player his age, when we signed him back in 2007, post NY Rangers sweep.

Want My Floor Seats?

March 3rd, 2010
5:41 pm

First, just because he was offered to Carolina last week doesn’t mean they weren’t willing to give a 3rd and 4th pick for him. They probably wanted more last week than Carolina would give and when you’re trying to clear cap space and move someone with an hour or so til deadline, you take what someone will give you. I agree a change of scenery may be what Mac needs to open up. Clearly Dudley’s seen something in him that he likes or they would’ve passed on him at any price.

Second, scoring may or may not be hard to come by down the stretch…But nearly EVERYONE was taking shots last night and they weren’t just one-timers. BOLTS even took 3 shots last night!! WTH?!? There were some serious, high-quality shots made from just about everywhere and their goalie (Clemmensen) really made some great stops. It could’ve easily been 6-2 or 7-2 even with Vokoun in there. There were PLAYS being run other than just “get the puck to Kovy…” The neat part about this is how other teams really have NO IDEA where the next shot is coming from post-Kovy. That leads me to believe we could be seeing this team score 4, 5, 6 goals in any given game…And they could come from 4, 5, 6 different players! What a CHANGE…

For the most part, passing was crisp and I got the feeling even some of the guys were *surprised* at some of the passes that ended up right at their feet. On the other hand, FLA often looked like they were kicking the puck around like a hacky sack, just trying to get it near the net. It felt GOOD to be watching the team that was passing, setting up shots, exhibiting patience and taking good, quality shots…And that team was actually OURS!

So don’t think this team can’t score…They can. Within the first 4 mins or so, WE had a 2-0 lead which is a complete reversal of fortune. Moose made 2 great plays that opened up goals 1 and 3. Max took the puck from BEHIND our goal and blew by everyone to set up Peverley on the first one. These are GREAT, alert & innovative plays that show this team is capable of much more than some of you give them credit for. And it’s not just offense. How long’s it been since they’ve had 7 PKs in a row? (And some of those penalties were just BS!)

Dudley’s built winners before and we’re watching it happen right before our very eyes again. These guys are believing they can play with anyone and win. That’s the perfect atmosphere for a playoff run. Not doing a blockbuster trade today was probably the best thing that could’ve happened right now. And who would’ve thought that the biggest key to this teams current SUCCESS was the biggest trade of the year in the entire league?

Don’t forget Koz had to approve any trade. Obviously he was being shopped. It was in the AJC for crying outloud! chief is right: $3.7M is BIG. I keeping seeing the real interest was in Kubina. I’m glad we kept him…He’s a beast!

East Point Bob

March 3rd, 2010
6:23 pm

Nothing for Nothing means Nothing with the Atlanta Thrashers GM… What a total loser he really is !

Sage of Bluesland

March 3rd, 2010
6:26 pm

I’ll give our bumbling, lisping fraud of a GM credit for one thing in this trade: at least the guy he got has PLAYED in the NHL…His history of draft picks after the first ten selections of the 1st round indicates they won’t make it past Chicago–and forever be relegated to “Legends of Blueland” status (you know, on the back of your silly wittle fwee game bookwet)…

See, I gave credit where it is due. Has there been another of Don’s playoff “guarantees” yet this year?

What a joke. Those who continue to put money into these owners’ pockets are a bigger part of the problem now. You have heard the owners’ words, but most importanty, have witnessed their ACTIONS. Do you honestly believe we are more than mere fodder for the ‘real’ teams in the league?!

(Countdown to more of SmoothieLamb’s inane bleating…10…9…8….Make it a good effort, I beg of you!)

Jack

March 3rd, 2010
6:48 pm

So since we only have 4 lines what are we doing with 15 forwards.

J-man

March 3rd, 2010
6:51 pm

Sage, I agree with you. But 16000 people showed up for the 1st home game after Kovy was traded and any chance to send a message to the owners was lost – forever. It’s too late now. The fans have said with a very loud voice “We believe in DW. Keep up the good work!” We’ll see if they are right or not in early April.

Kozlov has already played his final game as a Thrasher. He’s got the Zhitnik Memorial Permanent Seat in the press box. I’d speculate that DW deliberately did not trade him today simply to punish him for the Russian press interview. Don’t think so? Then I ask any doubters to check back on DW’s comments about Belanger right after the Thrashers got swept in the playoffs. DW is a man who holds grudges.

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March 3rd, 2010
7:01 pm

So the ANTI-FAN of Bluesland shows up, lisp back in his posts and all. Attendance last night was:

13,818 (18,545).

Not bad for a TUESDAY night game when you have to drive through snow and face icy conditions to get there! Seems like you and Jeff Schultz will be the only ones left to console and spoon each other after the Thrashers make the playoffs. Truly sad and pathetic…

Want My Floor Seats?

March 3rd, 2010
7:14 pm

Waddell may do a lot of things, but even his detractors say he’s a man of character. If he says he didn’t have an offer to take to Koz, then I believe him. Sometimes there’s just no interest. Happens all the time and not just in the NHL. Now whether or not “move Koz” at the top of the to do list today, that’s another question. Wouldn’t have been my top priority either. But when the guy puts it out in the press that Koz is available (and wants a trade) DAYS before the deadline, you can’t really say he wasn’t trying to trade him. He just couldn’t get anyone to take him and the $3M+ contract. Understandable and believable…

Lee

March 3rd, 2010
8:11 pm

Saliva…sorry….Slava ain’t traded yet? Jeez, how slow can one general manager be? Oh, wait I know, Don Waddell Slow.

Sage of Bluesland

March 3rd, 2010
8:31 pm

“Waddell may do a lot of things, but even his detractors say he’s a man of character….”

Well-bleated–oh, by golly, let’s get him re-upped for his third “Five-Year Plan” before it’s too late…he’s got “character”, after all!

Do you even read what you type–at all?

But, please, keep it coming…the laughs are worth every place I have to step to avoid…

Joyaman

March 3rd, 2010
9:10 pm

I hope the MacArthur deal works out. 3rd and 4th round picks in this year’s draft won’t play anytime soon, but remember that MacArthur was a 3rd rounder for Buffalo (lower pick than one ATL #3), but at least the development time and risk were incurred by another team.

Coupled with the Artyukhin trade and what the Thrash got for Kovy, I’ll at least give Waddell and Dudley credit for trying to turn a lemon (of Waddell’s making) into lemonade.

That being said, let’s not fool ourselves that any of these moves make the Thrash a lock for the playoffs this year. At least the team didn’t get worse by dealing any D-men. We’re at an all-time franchise high of having five-to-six legitimate blueliners and can’t afford to go back to the customary two-to-three that Waddell’s “offense-first and hope decent goaltending can hold the fort” philosophy has saddled us. Maybe Dudley’s influence is starting to show up on this roster. Anything is better than letting DW fly solo, as he can’t build, he can’t coach and he can’t speak in public (witness the town hall meetings where he literally ran away into the crowd – or just check out his lack of diction in the quotes above, such as this gem: “I look at it as a very competition and healthy situation.”). Yesterday he was “more a buyer than a seller.” Today he says “we were buyers not sellers.” Nothing he says should be taken seriously. It’s just his shoddy PR acumen showing through.

Enough darts for now (it’s just too damn easy). Let’s try to play with the cards we’ve been dealt and take a run at qualifying for the playoffs. It could turn out to be a fun ride for a while. Let’s support these players. Buy scalped tickets and boycott the parking and concessions in the hope that good-old market forces will take their toll on the GM and ownership over time.

Go Thrash!

Zulu

March 3rd, 2010
9:16 pm

Looking at the bright side at least he didn’t give away the future in order to finish 8th and then get killed in the first round of the playoffs.

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
9:43 pm

I don’t understand the hostility towards Brian Burke that is sometimes displayed on these message boards. Since the Lockout, Brian Burke-managed teams have won thirty-four (34) playoff games. And he just added 5 wins on the Olympic stage, in a Silver Medal winning effort in Vancouver. And yes, 16 of those 34 wins came in 2007, ending with a big silver trophy presentation at center ice. The last time I checked, winning the Stanley Cup is the crowning achievement in any GM’s career.

It’s one thing to dislike Burke over the embarrassing tift with Kevin Lowe, a few years back. That’s certainly understandable. It’s one thing to think Burke arrogant. Or someone receiving preferential treatment by fans, media, the league, etc. But to begrudge Burke credit for his successes seems misplaced.

If you dislike Burke, and the sole REASON behind it resides in the fact that AJC editoralist Jeff Schultz pointed out that Harvey Schiller refused to return Burke’s phone calls in 1999 for the Thrashers job, how does that cheapen Burke’s success? That Burke didn’t get the job in Atlanta is hardly Burke’s fault. He can’t force anyone to hire him. The way to judge Burke is to examine his strategy and how well he implements it. And by that, you may be aided by the use of standings and playoff results. Those are pretty good indicators. Things may not exactly be ‘glorious’ in Toronto, but how long has Burke been there? And can you say that the Maple Leafs are clearly headed in the WRONG direction? And remember something, some GM’s in this league have been given a “5-year pass,” sometimes longer, before they ever get scrutinized in any serious way.

That anyone can be called ‘overrated’ is an effect of some form of success. For example, who thinks Matt Millen is overrated? Who thinks Mike Milbury is overrated? Who thinks Doug MacLean was prematurely removed from office, in Columbus, in 2007? Does anyone call Doug MacLean, ‘overrated?’ I’m just asking a question.

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
10:12 pm

J-Man, I posted a few days ago about the Waddell comments, post NY Rangers sweep, about how the normally ‘player-friendly’ Waddell rarely throws out a player’s name while assessing blame. But in 2007, he threw Belanger and Kozlov’s names out in the media, while DEFENDING Marian Hossa’s invisible performance in 2007. When I read those comments from Waddell, I didn’t think there was a chance Kozlov would return. But I was wrong. Big time wrong. Kozzie got a 3-year deal, after trapsing off to Dallas to help Waddell find his checkbook. I’m not too sure that Kozlov has played his final game as a Thrasher. They haven’t put Kozlov on waivers yet. If they do, and he clears both waivers and re-entry waivers, and he doesn’t choose to retire, then he may see some 4th line minutes, just to keep him eligible for some potential shootout. Of course, the Thrashers could just give Kozlov a release. But I don’t know what that would accomplish. They still owe him salary and don’t get any kind of cap relief, even if cap relief were needed.

Zulu, I want to piggyback on your post. Losing Oystrick and a conditional pick for Artuykin isn’t giving away the farm. Losing a 3rd and 4th round pick for Clarke MacArthus isn’t mortgaging the future, either. Trading Kovalchuk had to be done, or the organization would lose a very valuable asset. Getting Oduya, a late 1st round pick, Cormier, and Bergfors, is at least “something.” I’ve already forgotten what we got for Kari Lehtonen. But I really think Lehtonen should have at least been given a chance to show he can play before being dealt. Maybe Waddell’s thought was, “I can’t risk an injury in Kari’s 1st game back. Let’s trade him now, while Dallas’ scouts are pleased with his AHL performances.” Okay. In Waddell’s shoes … Kari failed him badly. Waddell put a lot of eggs in the Lehtonen basket. It never did pay those dividends. Kari’s last playoff performance was that 7-0 pasting by the Rangers, in Game Three. That’s not what Waddell had in mind when he drafted Kari.

Don’t look now, but the lowly Florida Panthers are up, 6-4, over the Flyers. But I digress.

Zulu, you’re right. What’s done is done. We didn’t hold the firesale. Kubina, Armstrong, Moose, and Finny might be lost for nothing but cap space. The time for crying out it … is at season’s end, if we miss the playoffs. But then, it’s FAIR GAME FOR CRYING about it. People here, including me, posted that we had to get something for Kubina, if he couldn’t be re-signed. Same deal with Army. Moose’s trade value, to some team like Philly, would never had been higher. Leighton and Boucher have stunk for the Flyers tonight. Schubert was only a waiver claim. He could have been moved to reclaim a 4th round pick that Atlanta just gave to Buffalo for MacArthur. Bygones.

So, here we are. We’ve got a “Wake up, Atlanta!” marketing campaign, advocating a playoff push. If the Thrashers get in, people will want to heap praise on Waddell. I still say, “Let’s see if that playoff berth goes 7 games.”

It’s a final. Panthers 7, Flyers 4.

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
10:16 pm

Anyone else see this wonderful Olympic tribute that the Anaheim Ducks just put on for their returning Olympic players? They announced that no NHL team produced more medals in the Vancouver 2010 Olympics that those playing for the Ducks. They saluted Selanne for his bronze medal, Bobby Ryan for his Silver medal, and Niedermayer, Getzlaf, and Perry for their Gold medals for Canada. I might have left off some, too.

Brendan

March 3rd, 2010
10:17 pm

Hiller played well for Switzerland, too.

MB

March 3rd, 2010
10:29 pm

Speaking of that, Brendan, did the Thrashers pay tribute to the returning Olympians at Philips last night? I know they did that in Anaheim and in Pittsburgh (where Ryan Miller was cheered loudest, and Crosby even heard some boos because the marketing boys oversold the whole “game-winning goal for Canada” bit), and perhaps other arenas did the same thing…but haven’t heard if it was done here.

Brendan is Overrated

March 3rd, 2010
10:46 pm

a lot of folks on these here message boards said it would be good to keep Kubina…I reckon the majority of them, ‘cept for them negative nancy types…you know, the sage blusterin’ ones?

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March 3rd, 2010
11:57 pm

The “tribute” to the Thrashers’ Olympic players was underwhelming to say the least. If you went to any of the pre-Olympic games and you saw them put the chosen players’ pictures, countries, etc up on the video board, then you pretty much saw the post-Olympic tribute because that’s what they did again last night. Only the USA and Canada flags hang at NHL games and we had no players on the USA or Canada teams…Maybe that’s why the celebration was muted? Perhaps they thought recognizing them as they did was sufficient.

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March 4th, 2010
12:08 am

ANTI-FAN of Bluesland:

You do realize someone can be a bumbling idiot but still have character, right? I’m sure you still have character, right?

CrazyDiamond

March 4th, 2010
2:04 am

We are so screwed.

Did I see “Thrashers playoff push” mentioned in the AJC today? You must be kidding! Our roster in no way looks like a playoff caliber roster. It will take the efforts of a super GM to unravel the Gordian Knot of players we have today. Not to mention owners with a clue and cash, and an economy like 1999.

We are so screwed.

Lee

March 4th, 2010
7:10 am

Pretty big crowd last game, I was impressed.

MB

March 4th, 2010
10:34 am

WMFS, that’s disappointing to hear. Regardless of which country they played for, those players were Olympians and it would have been nice to let ‘em know we’re proud of them for that accomplishment. And it’s not like the Marketing department didn’t have time to put something together, especially when you realize what a great lead-in the Games provided for the NHL’s push for the postseason. Saw a poll that indicated that 51% of respondents were now more interested in the NHL because of the Olympics and the USA v. CAN final. Smart markets will try to capitalize on that.

hoover

March 4th, 2010
11:26 am

You guys suck worse than I do.

Thrasher_Ed

March 4th, 2010
11:49 am

Ok, we play the New York Islanders (0-3 this year) who are 4 points behind us and we have 2 games in hand against them. Next we play Tampa Bay (1-2-2 this year) they are 1 points behind us and we have a game in hand vs them as well. Carolina (2-1 this year) is 7 points behind us and we have agame in hand vs. them as well. We need to go 3-0 the rest of this week. Thrashers must beat teams beneath them in the standings and take advantage of this break in our schedule and take as many points as possible. That being said, can these Thrashers do that? I for one still hope we can in spite of my strong anti- Atlanta Spirit emotions. I certainly hope we can play better against an Islanders team that I feel we are so much better than, but seem to play down to each time we play them. Let’s go Thrashers we need a BIG 2 points tonight!

JD

March 4th, 2010
2:55 pm

You need to play Eric Boulton more…He will at least kick somebody’s ass. He plays hard and is tough as nails….

Lee

March 4th, 2010
3:01 pm

Thorburn played suprisingly well last game. Keep it up!

Want My Floor Seats?

March 4th, 2010
5:49 pm

MB: Agreed. It could’ve also been that all the Thrashers’ countries were all eliminated before the medal round began. All of the celebrations I saw were for players who medaled. Maybe our guys’ countries will honor them after the season is over.

I think we will see MORE of Bolts and Thor. Funny how they were actually playing hockey Tues nt instead of just looking for some good fight! Bolts took THREE shots…I still can’t believe it! One of the rebounds landed right at Thor’s feet just in front of the crease, the net was wide open and he couldn’t quite tap it in…I felt sorry for the guy. But the effort is there and the results will follow.

Mark my words…Bolts and/or Thor will score soon, perhaps before the weekend is out. Guys that didn’t get the time on ice and scoring chances when Kovy was in the spotlight are about to start scoring. It’s fun to watch!