Pavelec in goal versus Sabres

A quick report from Thursday’s morning skate before game with Sabres.

Ondrej Pavelec will get the start in goal, his first against Buffalo.

Todd White took part in the morning skate. He looked fine and said he felt much better today than yesterday. Looks like he will go.

Nik Antropov took part in the skate, but was on the side when the team skated in line combinations. Both he and coach John Anderson said it was likely he would return to the lineup after a missing four games with a hip injury, but we will see.

Boris Valabik is in on defense, his second straight game. Anssi Salmela and Mark Popovic are the defensive scratches.

Here are the line combinations used at the skate  (again in no particular order):

Kovalchuk-Peverley-Thorburn

Kane-Slater-Little

Armstrong-Reasoner-Afinogenov

Kozlov-White-Boulton

39 comments Add your comment

Flagstaff

January 14th, 2010
12:08 pm

Hopefully Pavelec will be able to sustain the confidence which carried him through the Ottawa game. That will probably be one of the biggest, if not, the biggest factor in the way this game goes tonight.

Flagstaff

January 14th, 2010
12:09 pm

Matt

January 14th, 2010
12:10 pm

Let’s hope the team shows the same intensity for the full 60 minutes that they displayed against the Sens.

Not Blind

January 14th, 2010
12:11 pm

Important game coming up. Probably will be a crystal ball for the rest of the season.

Bob

January 14th, 2010
12:26 pm

I concur with the guy with good eyes, if there is a pivotal game, this is it. Another blowout will not be good, but if they can hang with Buffablow or even beat them, that will be a very good sign

Buzilla in CT

January 14th, 2010
12:29 pm

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

….sorry…wrong board

rob

January 14th, 2010
12:39 pm

Hopefully the boys will show up and play some hockey against the Sabres. Gotta find the fire from the first 20 games again and see where it takes them. Good luck Pavs.

Mooseberg

January 14th, 2010
12:51 pm

3stripes

January 14th, 2010
1:26 pm

I’m with Mooseberg, who’s with Brophy.

Not Blind

January 14th, 2010
1:58 pm

Brophy’s not saying anything that hasn’t been said here 100 times.

StateBird

January 14th, 2010
3:13 pm

The Thrashers were a lock Tuesday against the Sens. Likewise the Sabres are a lock tonight against the Thrashers.

Brophy has it right about the Thrashers being a better team through trading Kovy, but he has it wrong about not being devastating to the franchise. The team is gone within the next 2 years. Thank you DW and ASG.

3stripes

January 14th, 2010
3:23 pm

The way I look at it, we’re pretty much down to the die-hard hockey fans anyway. Most weeknights, there are far more empty seats than filled ones. Casual fans aren’t buying tickets anyway – with Kovy. So I don’t see how can it be *more* devastating, unless you think die-hard fans are going to throw in the towel as well.

rob

January 14th, 2010
3:36 pm

13000+ a game?!?!?! WOW the Pens and Caps were pretty packed, and I assume the Sabres tonight will be crowded, but the others I have been to and watched on TV looked down right empty….. The die hard fans deserve a die hard leader! GO THRASHERS!!!!

Lee

January 14th, 2010
3:43 pm

I’m not so confident in Pavelec, hopefully he’ll play well just like he did with the Sens.

Hockey Biltong

January 14th, 2010
3:52 pm

Nice link, Mooseberger, ya cant help but feel that we get much more in return, than if we stay with Kovy and get whomever we can afford after that …….

Not Blind

January 14th, 2010
4:21 pm

You wonder how much more some of our current guys could do if they had a portion of the minutes that KK is using to do his figure 8’s. Ditto for Kozlov’s minutes.

Lee

January 14th, 2010
5:47 pm

Lee

January 14th, 2010
5:54 pm

I agree on the fact that Atlanta won’t change much without Kovy, but the effect on Boston, LA, Chicago, etc is pretty big. Just like Marian Hossa, when he was with Atlanta, did he do much? No, he didn’t, but when he went to Pittsburgh and Chicago a LOT changed. It’s because of the franchise people, Hossa didn’t fit well with Atlanta, Chicago is his team. Same with Kovy, he may not fit in ATL. He is already a 40, 50 goal scorer per year, just think about him on Washington or Chicago, he’d be amazing! If we trade him, the other teams in the conference would be overpowering.

Chris Vivlamore

January 14th, 2010
6:29 pm

Antropov is out on the ice for pre-game warm up. We’ll see if he plays.

Chris Vivlamore

January 14th, 2010
6:57 pm

Todd White is the scratch.

Sage of Bluesland

January 14th, 2010
7:42 pm

Still no update on the contract situation?

BIG surprise…

stendec

January 14th, 2010
9:47 pm

Another throwup debacle at Loseland! An overtime loss. To the damn Buffalo Sabres! How much more heartless does it get than this? Bye bye playoffs. Pavs barely gets a pass on nauseating overtime goal due to his spectacular effort prior to that fatal monumental choke job. Speaking of giveups. Gutless El Kapitan Ilya “Always Feed Me Puck” Kovalchuk netted a power play goal. Whoop dee do! I saw untalented Russian commode residue misfire on at least three wide open shots. If quitter puts one of those in the net it means two points instead of one. Getting to where I hate that Siberian reject bestard! Apologists can celebrate all they want. One point on home ice against a struggling team is no better than a defeat. Damn disgusting! ++STENDEC++ BTW – To Hell with the scumballs except Moose Hedberg and Pavs.

stendec

January 14th, 2010
10:01 pm

Party on apologists. I know how all of you losers love these morale victory giveup jobs! Especially at Loseland. Almost enough in books to miss playoffs once again! From eight goals one contest to one the next. Figured bestards had used up their damn quota! Nothing against Hamilton but I hope these quitters have to relocate to that fine Canadian province. The sooner the damn better! Absolutely nauseated. ++STENDEC++ Heartless sons of betches!

stendec

January 14th, 2010
10:21 pm

Afterthought semi pro hockey team in Atlanta starts another losing streak on home ice. Hardly deserves agate mention on back of sports page. Totally reprehensible! Look up heartless in dictionary to view team photo of Atlanta Thrashers. So damn tired of this bullshet! ++STENDEC++ Fraud captain did perform some nice figure eights tonight. Captain my a$$!

stendec

January 14th, 2010
10:25 pm

See by number of posts (none since travesty concluded) that most folks have grown as tired of these heartless bestard quitters as I have! ++STENDEC++ Even Sage could not bring himself to comment on yet another gutless giveup job!

Brendan

January 14th, 2010
10:31 pm

Sage, I want a quote from ownership. Why won’t they speak? (Oh, b/c it was jeopardize the negotiations. Right. Suuure.)

Anywho, nice point, tonight, against a better team. Buffalo needed this win. They’re in a real fight for the #2 spot in the Conference. Atlanta had a nice shots of goal differential through two periods.

Sage, remember in 2005? When the organization proscrinated with Kovalchuk’s contract, and wound up paying more because of it? Wouldn’t you think they’d learn from that? It’s not as if they could defer to their STANDARD DEFAULT ANSWER that any failures with this franchise occurred on another ownership’s watch.

Why is it … that this GM and this franchise CANNOT RIGHTLY ASCERTAIN what the cost of a Tier I player is? Why? Why is this task beyond them?

Tonight, I saw our only goal of the evening scored by Kovalchuk. And I thought to myself, “there’s only one player on this team who could have scored that goal. That’s why he’s special.” Kovalchuk, and his $6.5 million cap hit, got us a point tonight. Instead of no points. And while there’s probably a statistician that can calculate, to the penny, what a game-tying or game-winning goal is worth, in straight up dollars and cents, there’s just no way that Ilya is a complete player. And I say that with love for him in my heart.

Fans are fans. Statisticians are statisiticians. And owners and GM’s are budget conscious people. Especially, the owners. Since, well … it’s THEIR money. Another thought occurs to me, if Kovalchuk REALLY, REALLY wanted to stay in Atlanta, he could just agree to receive less money. That’s the God’s honest truth. That he doesn’t or won’t, speaks to me. And it’s not a FAVORABLE conversation.

Then this thought hits me like a ton of bricks. When Malkin and Crosby’s contracts eventually come due, they’ll make MORE than whatever Ilya gets. The market will bear more money. And the cost of inflation will devalue even the inflated contract that Kovy gets, over time. The only player who won’t get another contract, in the game of EGO ONEUPSMANSHIP, … is Ovechkin. He’s got his lifetime contract at $9.5 million. Egregious at first sight, the more the years pass, the CHEAPER and MORE REASONABLE that contract seems. That’s the truth Ilya knows. And his agent knows. Don says, “They want equal money for all years.” In other words, $11 million this, next year, the year after that, etc. Part of the reason they may want that, even though it’s devalued over time, resides in the difficulty over trading him, much later into his career. When a guy’s Cap hit is $5 million in years 9, 10, and 11, but his ACTUAL SALARY at that point is more like $1.9 million, the possibility of trading him to a cash strapped market like Phoenix increases. Why? They’ll have the $1.9 million, and probably the cap room of $5 million to go acquire him. If a player’s actual paid salary is still $9-11 million, Phoenix won’t touch him. In his “twilight years,” no one will want to take on that kind of hefty salary, for an aged player. In essence, by getting paid that same $11 million for EVERY, SINGLE YEAR … it’s built-in “security” that he’s not going anywhere. Who wants a 38-year old, making $11 million, even if it’s Kovalchuk? And what about the ‘buy out’ possibility? I’m not sure, but I think it’s just buying out the remaining money ACTUALLY STILL OWED, rather than the “cap hit still owed.” If a player’s cap hit is $5 million, but his actually salary is $1.9 million, you’re buying him out at the rate of $1.9 million, over however many years he still has left on his deal. ‘Buying a player out’ is never really all that smart. Long after the player is gone, his cap hit is still hitting the team’s budget. That’s not a smart way to operate.

And finally, this thought hits me, too. If you think Jaromir Jagr got coaches fired, you haven’t seen anything yet, if Kovy gets $9 or more million-per-year, over a decade. Who’s easier to replace? The $1 million-per-year coach, or the “face of the franchise?” Now, if Kovalchuk could just get Waddell fired, we’d welcome the moniker! But Waddell has already coached this team, TWICE, as I recall. And he hasn’t budged. And probably won’t. Which gets me to the final thought, “No trade clause? No movement clause?” It’ll be interesting to see if Kovy leaves that door open, where Atlanta can blindside him with a trade at some point, like Ottawa did to Hossa. Of course, if Kovy never re-signs here, the whole topic is moot.

MB

January 14th, 2010
10:44 pm

Stendec, I hate losing as much as the next guy (or at least I thought I did), but sometimes you play a pretty good game and the other team wins. And the Sabres are hardly struggling…they’re 4th in the league in points and 7-1-2 in their last ten games. Still sucks, you bet, but not nearly as nauseating as the past month has been.

Oh, and while you’re getting on Kovy for this one, at least share some of the blame with Schubert and Bogosian for handing it to Buffalo on a silver platter.

Finally, for those drooling over the Toronto 1st rounder in a potential trade with Boston, note that the Leafs are as close to us in 23rd as they are to the Canes at the bottom, so Taylor Hall could well turn into Vladimir Tarasenko by the end of the season. And how many of us trust D-Wadd with a pick outside of the top three?

Midfield

January 14th, 2010
11:06 pm

It’s been a decent effort. My issue is with Anderson. If professional players keep making bone-head penalties like those at the crucial time of an important game, what does he think his job is? I can stand behind the bench dressed up in a suite and shake my head too. Who do I send my application to?

mike

January 15th, 2010
12:27 am

only asg employee could blame decade mess this franchize on players. fortunatelly everyone here not from this circus, sorry forgot stendec workink like statement for dw and levenson. nice try, but nobody buying

36

January 15th, 2010
6:35 am

should be no penalties called on kaleta. we should get points for elbowing him. hard to play the bulk of OT down a man though. great game from Pavs. i hope this isn’t one of the games that comes back to haunt us. with our upcoming 5 or 6 games..we could possibly get back into the race. seems like it’s do or die right now.

stendec

January 15th, 2010
7:28 am

Do or die? Then rest in peace! ++STENDEC++ Teams worth a damn simply do not go bellyup in games as critical as this one. On damn home ice! One goal in 60 plus minutes? Completely unacceptable! Playoffs? Please spare me!

36

January 15th, 2010
8:00 am

Okay Stendec, I guess you would have had a hat trick against Miller. I know you live vicariously through your alleged days as a beat writer, (who constantly likes typing his own blog moniker), but c’mon now Stenny, sometimes even turds like you ought to give the other team a little credit, being that they are professional hockey players and you are merely a tiny spec in the cyber world who makes it your personal mission in life to analyze and criticize everything behind your monitor, knowing full well ++YOU++ couldn’t do a better job.

I’m sure someone has told you this before, but if the team causes you so much distress in your life, forcing you to constantly criticize everything, why not turn off your television ? Call me crazy, but perhaps you can be spared, spare yourself. The Thrashers don’t have to please ++YOU++, you aren’t the GM, you aren’t the coach and according to your own words, you aren’t a fan either. Basically, you don’t count. ++Shrug++

The call in OT was a joke. That call should not be made in OT. If that’s your definition of bellyup, you need a new dictionary.

stendec

January 15th, 2010
8:19 am

Is 36 your damn IQ? Do not like to respond to useless vermin but…Since you are a MF SOB CS with nothing better to do than kiss the A$$ of a team which has tanked it already there is not any more which needs to be said. So FO! ++STENDEC++ Apologist of all apologists! If Rawhide is reading this please forgive me.

stendec

January 15th, 2010
8:26 am

You in radar range yet LAC?

Good old 36 had this to say:

The Thrashers don’t have to please ++YOU++, you aren’t the GM, you aren’t the coach and according to your own words, you aren’t a fan either. Basically, you don’t count

Whadda ya say pal?

++STENDEC++

stendec

January 15th, 2010
8:41 am

It is my humble contention that a tie on home ice (loss in overtime or shootout) should be regarded as a defeat. A team which cannot dig deep to secure that extra point at home totally lacks grit and heart. The Atlanta club also lacks fire and toughness. This is completely verified by the absolutely putrid mark at Loseland. A tie on hostile ice should be regarded as a win under most circumstances. Unless team gags away three goal edge in final five minutes of regulation competition. Pavs was outstanding in net. Not only did El Kapitan Ilya “Show Me Money” Kovalchuk score a power play goal but he sure skated some kick a$$ figure eights. Hockey and figure skating all in one night. An evening of exceptional family entertainment at Loseland. ++STENDEC++ Oh 36. This one is for you pal. ++STENDEC++

stendec

January 15th, 2010
8:41 am

It is my humble contention that a tie on home ice (loss in overtime or shootout) should be regarded as a defeat. A team which cannot dig deep to secure that extra point at home totally lacks grit and heart. The Atlanta club also lacks fire and toughness. This is completely verified by the absolutely putrid mark at Loseland. A tie on hostile ice should be regarded as a win under most circumstances. Unless team gags away three goal edge in final five minutes of regulation competition. Pavs was outstanding in net. Not only did El Kapitan Ilya “Show Me Money” Kovalchuk score a power play goal but he sure skated some kick a$$ figure eights. Hockey and figure skating all in one night. An evening of exceptional family entertainment at Loseland. ++STENDEC++ Oh 36. This one is for you pal. ++STENDEC++

Jeff

January 15th, 2010
9:42 am

Nice game from the goalie last night!

Anyone else notice the lack luster celebration after Kovy’s goal! Thanks for showing like you are having fun on the ice Captain!!

36

January 15th, 2010
9:54 am

C’mon ++CRYBABY++, fair game, you can be criticized as easy as you criticize the team. Good enough for the goose, good enough for the gander, +bing+, ++bang++, ++pow++. Down ya go. Why are you crying for LAC to defend you? A professional blog commenter shouldn’t need any help. ++zang++

36 fan

January 15th, 2010
11:52 am