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	<title>Comments on: Kari Lehtonen has another back surgery</title>
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	<description>AJC hockey beat writer Chris Vivlamore\&#039;s perspective on the Atlanta Thrashers</description>
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		<title>By: Cahos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cahos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put Lehton in rehab and chicago for the remainder of the seson then try again next year with him at start. 
He miht do vetter if that happends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put Lehton in rehab and chicago for the remainder of the seson then try again next year with him at start.<br />
He miht do vetter if that happends.</p>
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		<title>By: Fantasy Hockey Report &#124; Quick Hits: Fantasy Hockey Injury Report, Nov. 6th</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fantasy Hockey Report &#124; Quick Hits: Fantasy Hockey Injury Report, Nov. 6th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has had more back surgery and now he’s gone for an additional 4-6 weeks. Ugh. Forget about that guy and hope Pavelec can [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hossa</title>
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		<dc:creator>hossa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I send Uhaul boxes for Kari??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can I send Uhaul boxes for Kari??</p>
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		<title>By: stendec</title>
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		<dc:creator>stendec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When these damn heartless quitters miss the playoffs yet again, which they definitely will, the two Thrasher players who actually give a f#ck will remember all of these totally unacceptable Loseland choke jobs! Tell me how wonderful they are Sara and Tim. They are the justified laughingstock of the NHL! They should be damn ashamed and embarrassed after that giveup debacle. They will not. They could care damn less! That is evident by their complete lack of intensity, heart, pride and inner fire. Coach John Petrino is still a f#cking moron! I realize all you idiot fans are partying hardy after another close intolerable defeat. To Hell with accountability right losers! Bye bye Kaptain Ilya Kovalchuk. It was nice having you around for a bit. Jump this sinking ship as quick as you can. These bestards make me sick to my stomach! To Hell with the uncaring quitters. ++STENDEC++ See Thrasher coach is whining again. Wah wah wah. As much a motivator as damn Mark Bicht! Not one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When these damn heartless quitters miss the playoffs yet again, which they definitely will, the two Thrasher players who actually give a f#ck will remember all of these totally unacceptable Loseland choke jobs! Tell me how wonderful they are Sara and Tim. They are the justified laughingstock of the NHL! They should be damn ashamed and embarrassed after that giveup debacle. They will not. They could care damn less! That is evident by their complete lack of intensity, heart, pride and inner fire. Coach John Petrino is still a f#cking moron! I realize all you idiot fans are partying hardy after another close intolerable defeat. To Hell with accountability right losers! Bye bye Kaptain Ilya Kovalchuk. It was nice having you around for a bit. Jump this sinking ship as quick as you can. These bestards make me sick to my stomach! To Hell with the uncaring quitters. ++STENDEC++ See Thrasher coach is whining again. Wah wah wah. As much a motivator as damn Mark Bicht! Not one.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pasi is my favorite all-time Thrasher goalie.  And he was selected in a perfect place to take a goalie:  In the sixth round, as a &#039;throw away, shot in the dark&#039; pick.  We&#039;ve seen that goalies come from the latter rounds.   It&#039;s all about luck and good development.  

If I were, seriously, going to use a 1st round pick to select a goalie, I&#039;d begin at around pick #17.   That&#039;s plainly in the &quot;crapshoot&quot; area of the draft.  I wouldn&#039;t hesistate to take a goalie at pick #24 or so, if that&#039;s actually what I needed, as a longrange goal.  But when I have immediate needs to address, I pick skaters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pasi is my favorite all-time Thrasher goalie.  And he was selected in a perfect place to take a goalie:  In the sixth round, as a &#8216;throw away, shot in the dark&#8217; pick.  We&#8217;ve seen that goalies come from the latter rounds.   It&#8217;s all about luck and good development.  </p>
<p>If I were, seriously, going to use a 1st round pick to select a goalie, I&#8217;d begin at around pick #17.   That&#8217;s plainly in the &#8220;crapshoot&#8221; area of the draft.  I wouldn&#8217;t hesistate to take a goalie at pick #24 or so, if that&#8217;s actually what I needed, as a longrange goal.  But when I have immediate needs to address, I pick skaters.</p>
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		<title>By: The Earl of Bud</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Earl of Bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only other organization that I follow close enough to know Diego is Buffalo.  They have never had a full time committed goalie coach, only someone that does partial stuff.  Considering the names of Hasek, Biron and now Miller have gone through there recently it might not be such a bad thing.  If we don&#039;t know of any org that has one, how can we say we must need one though?\\

Brendan, I was just messing with ya on the Brent Gretzky line.  However, how does Pasi Nurminen fit into all this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only other organization that I follow close enough to know Diego is Buffalo.  They have never had a full time committed goalie coach, only someone that does partial stuff.  Considering the names of Hasek, Biron and now Miller have gone through there recently it might not be such a bad thing.  If we don&#8217;t know of any org that has one, how can we say we must need one though?\\</p>
<p>Brendan, I was just messing with ya on the Brent Gretzky line.  However, how does Pasi Nurminen fit into all this?</p>
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		<title>By: Diego from Lilburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego from Lilburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should probably have picked Nash and traded him for a fully trained, conditioned goalie.  They should have done this for two primary reasons:
1) No dedicated goalie coach in this organization
2) No real farm system in this organization to develop the talent we draft

Just my opinion.

Don&#039;t most teams with great goaltending have a dedicated goalie coach?  I&#039;m asking because I truly don&#039;t know.  I do seem to recall hearing that Kari&#039;s groin problem had been exacerbated by doing some conditioning exercise incorrectly.  I would hope that a goalie specialist could have prevented that.  I think if  you are going to draft goalies in the first round you had darn well be prepared to develop them properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should probably have picked Nash and traded him for a fully trained, conditioned goalie.  They should have done this for two primary reasons:<br />
1) No dedicated goalie coach in this organization<br />
2) No real farm system in this organization to develop the talent we draft</p>
<p>Just my opinion.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t most teams with great goaltending have a dedicated goalie coach?  I&#8217;m asking because I truly don&#8217;t know.  I do seem to recall hearing that Kari&#8217;s groin problem had been exacerbated by doing some conditioning exercise incorrectly.  I would hope that a goalie specialist could have prevented that.  I think if  you are going to draft goalies in the first round you had darn well be prepared to develop them properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lehtonen ryggopererad &#124; NHLbloggen– en blogg om hockey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lehtonen ryggopererad &#124; NHLbloggen– en blogg om hockey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  I would have drafted Brent Gretzky.  Why not?  If I&#039;m in the crapshoot area of the draft, and drafting Gretzky is just as likely to produce something as anyone else?   Now, I wouldn&#039;t have burned a 2nd overall pick on him.  That&#039;s for sure.

I think, to answer your question seriously, that the way to get better FASTER was to go the &quot;skater&quot; route.  Knowing that goalies take 5 years, on average, to develop.   Now, I&#039;ll listen to an argument that says, &quot;Draft the goalie ANNNND get Cujo.&quot; 

I know, to some, this would set off alarm bells. &quot;What kind of message does it send to Kari Lehtonen that you just signed a STUD goaltender to block his ascension.&quot;   I would have answered, &quot;That we&#039;re going to give you all the time you need to develop.  And when you&#039;re ready, you&#039;ll become our #1 goalie.&quot;  But, again, in the interest of TIME, I wouldn&#039;t pass on either Nash or Bouwmeester, ANNND I&#039;d go into free agecy for the goaltender.  But assumes there&#039;s money--a real budget--and not say, $11 million as a total team budget, to go make it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  I would have drafted Brent Gretzky.  Why not?  If I&#8217;m in the crapshoot area of the draft, and drafting Gretzky is just as likely to produce something as anyone else?   Now, I wouldn&#8217;t have burned a 2nd overall pick on him.  That&#8217;s for sure.</p>
<p>I think, to answer your question seriously, that the way to get better FASTER was to go the &#8220;skater&#8221; route.  Knowing that goalies take 5 years, on average, to develop.   Now, I&#8217;ll listen to an argument that says, &#8220;Draft the goalie ANNNND get Cujo.&#8221; </p>
<p>I know, to some, this would set off alarm bells. &#8220;What kind of message does it send to Kari Lehtonen that you just signed a STUD goaltender to block his ascension.&#8221;   I would have answered, &#8220;That we&#8217;re going to give you all the time you need to develop.  And when you&#8217;re ready, you&#8217;ll become our #1 goalie.&#8221;  But, again, in the interest of TIME, I wouldn&#8217;t pass on either Nash or Bouwmeester, ANNND I&#8217;d go into free agecy for the goaltender.  But assumes there&#8217;s money&#8211;a real budget&#8211;and not say, $11 million as a total team budget, to go make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: The Earl of Bud</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Earl of Bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan, considering that Cam Ward was not even the starting goaltender for the first couple games of the playoffs the year he won the Conn Smythe, can&#039;t you say that even the Hurricanes almost whiffed on him too and they were the ones that selected him?

Wasn&#039;t Byron Dafoe the free agent route that we took with the goalie position?

Finally considering that we were improving every year back then and dare I say it, but we were only 3 years into the 5 year plan, why did we need to pass on the stud goaltender when we were looking a couple years down the road anyway to really break out?

Oh yeah, on that recognizable family name thing, what round would you have drafted Brent Gretzky :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan, considering that Cam Ward was not even the starting goaltender for the first couple games of the playoffs the year he won the Conn Smythe, can&#8217;t you say that even the Hurricanes almost whiffed on him too and they were the ones that selected him?</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t Byron Dafoe the free agent route that we took with the goalie position?</p>
<p>Finally considering that we were improving every year back then and dare I say it, but we were only 3 years into the 5 year plan, why did we need to pass on the stud goaltender when we were looking a couple years down the road anyway to really break out?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, on that recognizable family name thing, what round would you have drafted Brent Gretzky <img src='http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-thrashers-blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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