Kari Lehtonen has another back surgery

We are back! Now with some breaking news: Kari Lehtonen underwent another back surgery on Friday. The procedure was to remove edges of bone that were applying pressure to nerve roots in his back at two locations. The surgery was performed by Dr. Paul Maurer at Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester, N.Y. The locations on the back were different than the location of the surgery he had on July 20.

The team says he will be sidelined for 6 to 8 weeks.

Thrashers had a late optional skate on Wednesday. They start at 1 p.m.

We’ll need to check the status of Ron Hainsey, who missed both games in Canada. He left last Friday’s practice with an undisclosed injury that coach John Anderson said was “day-to-day.” I will let you know if I find out anything new and what his status might be for Thursday against Columbus.

Looking to do a story for today/tomorrow on Ondrej Pavelec. I think with need to catch up with the goalie after two impressive games in Canada. What do you think was his better game: stopping 50 of 51 shots against Ottawa or the number of impressive stops in the win over Montreal?

Let’s get this posted and we’ll check back in 20 minutes when the players start to take the ice. Johan Hedberg and Evander Kane  just came out to join Noah Welch and assistant coaches.

We will check back.

83 comments Add your comment

J.B.

November 4th, 2009
12:51 pm

stopping 50 of 51 is EXTREMELY impressive but worrisome, though that’s more of a defense issue than goaltending issue. From what I could tell, Pavs was spectacular in both games. Wish I could have watched rather than listened. Looking forward to the story on Pavalec but I’m REALLY curious what Kari thinks of all this… it’s noticably quiet on the Lehtonen front.

Russian

November 4th, 2009
1:19 pm

I am agree about 50 of 51 and plus Mask of Save. It was fantastic job. Also I am wondering about Kari. What’s he think about huis job? Pavs might became as Number One.
Chris, Tell us about Welch little bit more. How is he practice? What’s his stile of play? I did not see him on action.

Russian

November 4th, 2009
1:22 pm

Kari has anotehr surgery. :-( How did we sign him? He is not going to play until February. Bad news.

jonathan

November 4th, 2009
1:24 pm

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ThrasherTim

November 4th, 2009
1:31 pm

I think at this point, Thrasher fans have realized that this team is Pavs’…this year. I am sure Kari is more worried right now about just being able to walk without pain, let alone playing hockey. If he ends up being healthy later in the year, that just leaves more options for the organization either to play him or trade him. Right now, Kari = zero on the “asset” side of the organization until further notice.

jonathan

November 4th, 2009
1:31 pm

i can’t beileve kari had another surgery it doesn’t matter anyways pavs is better anyways

KLS1

November 4th, 2009
1:54 pm

This team can never have too many goalies, unbelievable. Let’s hope the injury bug doesn’t nip either of our active goalies or we’ll be playing in front of the likes of Adam Berkhoel again.

JB17

November 4th, 2009
1:59 pm

Honestly, I’m not surprised by this. Pavs has clearly taken over control of this team. Kari has had his shot more than once and blew more than once in many different ways. I’m just fine with Opie taking the number one spot from here on out; he’s proven he can do it and I really think the team as a whole trusts him more than Kari.

As for Pavs best game; they’re both equally impressive as he made some awesome saves last night. BUT, he almost single handedly won that game in Ottawa. Just like he stole that point in Montreal earlier this year. That’s something this team has been sorely missing; a goalie that can stand on his head and steal a point or points. Pavs can do that, I don’t know if Kari can or ever really could.

Matt

November 4th, 2009
2:01 pm

Kari injured/surgery again, cue Stendec rant in 3..2..1…

J.B.

November 4th, 2009
2:05 pm

we’re going to have a hard time moving Kari to another team. Isn’t he UFA at the end of this season? We’ll be lucky if we can even get him on the ice by then. And, even if we could get him on the ice this season, do we WANT to? I say HEEEEEELLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOO!

JB17

November 4th, 2009
2:12 pm

J.B.: Kari and Pavs are both RFA’s after this year. I’d sign Pavs and let Kari walk; get a sign and trade if you can. This team has spent too many valuable resources on Kari and has got almost nothing in return.

Tony C.

November 4th, 2009
2:12 pm

Yeah I’m pretty sure that if DW tried to include KL in a trade the GM on the other line would die of convulsions from hysterical laughter…

[...] like the injuries are piling up in Atlanta, as goalie Kari Lehtonen will be out 6-8 weeks after he had another back surgery to remove some bone, which was causing him [...]

Clemson538

November 4th, 2009
2:16 pm

Sign and Trades are a NBA thing.. Not NHL

JB17

November 4th, 2009
2:16 pm

Haha, Tony your right. I wouldn’t be, IMO, going to far out on a limb to say Kari might be done for the year.

I’m not one for letting “assets” walk for nothing; but Chris if the Thrashers let a RFA go unsigned through the summer he becomes a UFA correct?

Midifeld

November 4th, 2009
2:18 pm

Honestly, if I were him, I would take it easy and hope that I can squeeze a few seasons in Europe somewhere, when I get healthy enough. NHL is not the place to nurse potentially career ending injuries.

MB

November 4th, 2009
2:19 pm

More bad news (depending upon your point of view) about Kari. Sorry to say, but this may well be the straw that breaks the camel’s proverbial…well, you know. Now the question is will he get enough reps once he is ready to boost his rapidly-declining trade value before the deadline? There seem to be quite a few teams with goalie issues this season, so maybe somebody will be willing to give up some decent picks/prospects for an enigmatic goalie with the “potential” to steal some games. Of course, I’m getting a little ahead of myself, but assuming Ondrej keeps up his strong play, I just don’t see Kari sticking around through the end of the season.

As for Pavs’ best effort, definitely the 50 saves against Ottawa. He robbed the Sens on numerous occasions and had no real chance at the goal they did score. Last night he made some amazing saves as well, but my guess is he’d like to have the first and last goals back.

Speaking of last night’s game, I don’t speak French, but it was pretty apparent that the announcers were very impressed with both Pavs and Peverley based on the number of times their names were mentioned. Maybe those Canadians will start to realize we’re more than Kovy and some scraps.

J.B.

November 4th, 2009
2:42 pm

I think Kari is done in Atlanta. I just don’t see how they can put him back in goal with the issues he’s had considering Opie is doing so well. Let’s hope he continues to do so throughout the season (AND PLAYOFFS).

Spud Webb

November 4th, 2009
2:45 pm

Don Waddell would be the only one who’d trade for KL right now, thank god we’ve already got him!!! ahhahahahahhahahaa.
Seriously, I’ve had the same KL had and someone else said it, that joker is going to be happy walking pain free, probably not to worried about hockey right now. Hope you get better Kari.

Yankee

November 4th, 2009
3:12 pm

Terrible news but at least we get to see if Pavs can handle it without looking over his shoulder. I hope he does it!

The Earl of Bud

November 4th, 2009
3:15 pm

MB, I like to watch the oppossing team´s coverage all the time just to hear what they say about us. And I like a lot of other team´s coverage better but that´s another issue. Anyway, in the other game against Montreal which was in English and the game against Ottawa they were both singing Atlanta´s praises rather than bashing us.

As for Peverley, I am very happy with his scoring touch. But one thing that is driving me nuts is the turnover he made last night. For starters he fanned on it and the Hab took it to the net and scored. Secondly, even if he had made the pass, I don´t know which of our Thrashers was on the other side of the ice, but he too had a Canadien right near him on the other side of the blueline, so that other Canadien could´ve easily jumped the pass and intercepted it and taken it to the net for an easy chance.

Finally, Peverley made the exact same mistake in the Ottawa game. I wrote this on the last blog or whichever it was for that game, but don´t make cross ice passes in your own zone like that. The only thing that saved us in that Ottawa game was that Pavalec made an amazing glovesave to rob the Senator who jumped the pass for an easy breakaway. At some point Peverley has got to know to play the puck up along the boards in those situations.

All that said, he is a point per game player that has only made those 2 glaring mistakes. Hopefully he can easily fix that.

Lee

November 4th, 2009
3:37 pm

Kari might as well not play the whole season! I mean FEBRUARY?? UGH!!! I know I know, Pavs has been great, but he’s very streaky, and I’m a little concerned at this point. Just watch Kari, get injured when he comes back in feb. His back must be in pretty bad condition!

Hotrod

November 4th, 2009
3:39 pm

Well this has come out of left field. Seems like the exam and diagnosis was a little botched over the summer. I mean really! “We fixed him over the summer, should be out 6-8 weeks” then now we find this and that?

Oh well, crappy for Kari to be so young and have a back this screw’d already.

Mike

November 4th, 2009
3:41 pm

I noticed Chris mentioned Noah Welch. Is he here for insurance due to Hainsey being out or has he been hurt since beginning of season and is still working on rehab?

J.B.

November 4th, 2009
3:42 pm

no misdiagnosis occurred. apparently this was something altogether different than the disc issue that was fixed earlier in the summer.

LAC

November 4th, 2009
3:46 pm

I agree, I think in light of Pavalac’s play, it might be the end of #32 in Atlanta, I look for Atlanta to NOT resign him, not a bad goalie, but just too many injuries over the years, to risk the money.

Chris Vivlamore

November 4th, 2009
3:47 pm

Practice update: A couple of things to note. It looks like Hainsey will play tomorrow night. I could only determine that he missed the last two games because of a “lower body injury.” He said he plans to play and Anderson said he’s day-to-day but expects him to play. Anderson said if the game against Montreal was a playoff game, Hainsey would have been in there.

Heard it here first (again), Pavelec is likely to be the starter in goal. I’ll be at the morning skate to confirm, but that’s what I understand.

Talked to Bryan Little about his first goal. It was a bit of a fluke, but he’ll take it. Admitted he was gripping the stick a little tight trying hard to get that first goal.

Time to finish the Pavelec story.

Bob

November 4th, 2009
3:50 pm

Lehtonen lost me back when he died his hair blue along with that maroon Sutton prior to our 1st playoff game. That and his complete inability to play consistent for more than 4 or 5 games in a row after a long rest, and he’s just not a #1 NHL goalie and never will be.

Did Waddell burn a #2 overall pick on him? Who else came out in that draft?

biscuit

November 4th, 2009
3:55 pm

He’s the Forsberg of goaltenders. Play great for 3 months, have a surgery. 3 more months, another surgery.

Buzzeng

November 4th, 2009
4:13 pm

Chris, try to focus the interview with OP on what more he and the team can do. We sure don’t want his early success to get to his head. He’s done a great job stepping in and stepping up. He wanted this chance, bad, last year so I’m happy to see him get the chance and answer the call. However, it’s still early in the season. Keep him hungry for more success!

Matt

November 4th, 2009
4:55 pm

Biscuit, epic analogy. (slow *clap* *clap* *clap*).

Bob, Sutton was not a “moron” he was just a human pylon.

Still laugh over Hartley’s comments about Kari being in the Finnish Army and not being able to do a push up. He is (or was) the Sta-Puft Marshmallow (sp?) man of the NHL.

Don *(Not That One)*

November 4th, 2009
5:09 pm

Gee we pick Kari over the likes of

3rd Jay Boumeester
4th Joni Pitkanen
5th Ryan Whitney
6th Scottie Upshall
13th Alexander Semin
25th Cam Ward (2nd goalie chosen, has stanley cup ring to prove he’s better than Kari)
30th Jim Slater

Maybe it’s not DW, maybe it’s our scouts, assuming he listens to them at all.

JLH

November 4th, 2009
5:49 pm

EOB – What bothered me most about Peverley mistake last night was how long he took to attempt the pass. He had it for several seconds with no pressure, and waited too long to make the decision, then looked up and fanned on the pass. He could have let go of it much sooner or skated up the boards. Hopefully he learned something.

NASCAR Dave

November 4th, 2009
6:19 pm

YAWN… Stick a fork in him, cuz the kid is DONE.

NUFF SAID.

KQuark

November 4th, 2009
6:19 pm

I’m glad to hear Hainsey will be back hopefully Thursday. The pairing of Salmela and Popvich simply does not work. Kuba and Shubert worked well together but it’s much better having Shubert who has been a pleasant surprise this season on a third line pairing with Popvic or Semela. Defensively the pairing of Kuba and Hainsey is one of the best pairing the Thrashers have ever put together.

For me last night was the best night of Thrasher’s brand team hockey I’ve seen, especially in 5 on 5 play. Sure they gave up more chances to Montreal but they had many more chances of their own, The two things that still frustrate the hell out of me is the Thrashers still not getting the puck out of the zone and leaving the slot open.

Brendan

November 4th, 2009
6:25 pm

I’d definitely say the 50 save performance in Ottawa was tops of his appearances in the Great White North. He should be feeling very good about himself. I will say, for the record, that the organization has rushed Pavelec. Goalies take 5 years to develop. So, Ondrej is a little ahead of schedule to be the #1 netminder here.

In the 2002 Draft, I will say this much for Waddell. IFFFFFFF it’s true that he really intended to select a goalie, then Lehtonen was the horse to bet on. He was the top-rated goalie in his draft year, per NHL Central scouting. I wonder if Rick Dudley is ’sorry’ for what he did to Don Waddell that draft year (2002) now that he’s inherited that Lehtonen pick. :oops:

If anyone is wholly unfamiliar with the events of the 2002 draft, here’s a recap. Florida owned the 1st overall pick. Rick Dudley was the Panthers GM at the time. Dudley was approached by the team picking 3rd, the Columbus Blue Jackets, to make a trade. Blue Jackets GM Doug MacLean wanted to select Rick Nash 1st overall. But to accept MacLean’s offer, Dudley needed acquienscence from his ol’ pal Don Waddell not to select Bouwmeester with the 2nd overall pick. Don was eager to help out a friend, and his buddy Rick Dudley ’sweetened it up’ by tossing in the 30th overall pick that year, that was being offered to him by Columbus. Originally, that 30th overall pick belonged to the Detroit Red Wings. But when Detroit traded Slava Kozlov to Buffalo, the Sabres acquired that 1st round pick in the deal. Buffalo then made other deals with Edmonton and Columbus. And the pick became Doug MacLean’s, I believe. Then MacLean offered it to Dudley, who then passed it along to Atlanta, as “inducement” not to take Bouwmeester.

Don then told the media, “We got the player we wanted all along,” plus they got an extra pick in the 1st round, 30th overall, that the organization then converted into Jim Slater. When folks in these parts “bad-mouth” Jimmy Slater, it’s not so much that he’s a “bust” of a 1st rounder so much as it is a “frustration” that rejecting that pick might have led the Thrashers being able to select Rick Nash.

That requires some thought, I do realize. See, Florida can’t get Bouwmeester without Atlanta’s “promise” not to take him 2nd overall, if Florida consummates the deal with Columbus. If Waddell had said, “Sorry Rick. I love ya. But I can’t do this deal. We gotta wind up with Nash or Bouwmeester, as team picking 2nd overall. We need IMMEDIATE help.” Well, Florida coveted Bouwmeester so … they would have selected Jay Bouwmeester 1st overall in 2002, leaving Nash for Atlanta to pick. Now, if Doug MacLean then approached Waddell for a deal for that 2nd overall pick, with something a little bit more enticing than a ‘throw away’ “shot in the dark” 30th overall pick … I could have honestly seen Waddell jumping all over Columbus’ offer to let us take their 1st round pick in 2003. (Columbus would pick 4th overall in 2003.) Such a deal would have allowed Atlanta to pick up a player like Thomas Vanek at 4th overall, while then adding Braydon Coburn at 8th overall, in 2003, and still get us Kari Lehtonen from the 2002 draft. Bygones. Well, what if MacLean doesn’t offer us his 2003 1st overall pick? Answer: Simple. Waddell mozies up to the podium and takes Rick Nash, 2nd overall, as is his RIGHT to do so. That’s called “The power of the 2nd overall pick in the draft.” I feel bad for Jimmy Slater being blamed for the GM’s decision. I don’t feel that’s really fair to Jimmy Slater. Guys picked 30th overall in the draft don’t usually blossom into big stars in the NHL. Some do. But, overall, on balance, they don’t. How I wish we could have turned back the hands of time to take either Nash or Bouwmeester, but it cannot be undone. It is what it is.

ksiujgth

November 4th, 2009
7:33 pm

i don’t wish letemin any ill will, but i was screaming for dw to trade him last year while someone still thought he was a good goalie.

Dwayne

November 4th, 2009
7:44 pm

I’d like to see Kari get healthy, and providing Pavalitchs, PavalehetZ, however those guys pronounced, improves, let Kari play in Chicago, hope he stays healthy, and have a tough decision to make NEXT year. I also feel more comfortable with Dudley in Donnie boys ear to make people decisions. As far as Chelios? Could not hurt having him in Atlanta.
And on a happy note, I will be in Atl. to see my Thrashers take on the Montreal Canadians Dec 21, I am bringing my 2 oldest Grandsons, (I have 6) both age 7, to their first hockey match. We gonna tear it up in Atlanta

Lee

November 4th, 2009
7:48 pm

Ok, I have nothing against Kari except, he is easily injured and is very streaky, thus said, we could’ve picked Alex Semin, Cam Ward, and other people I mean, actually, Look at their previous records!!!! You never no, :(

The Earl of Bud

November 4th, 2009
7:52 pm

biscuit, the Forsberg analogy is only ok because PF had 10 years in the league before his body broke down a la Kari.

Brendan, while it is true a lot of goaltenders go unnoticed in their early years. Not many thought that Craig Anderson or Tim Thomas would come out of nowhere. But it´s not asking too much to think Pavelec can have a year like Steve Mason or even Pekka Rinne did last year.

As for all the talk of drafting Kari, I think that´s pointless because to just talk about drafts 5 to 10 years after the picks were made is crazy to claim that you knew better way back when. I had no idea that Kari was a broken down jalope when we drafted him so I will not claim that I knew we should´ve picked player X instead. And as Brendan said, Kari was the horse to bet on, and every expansion team starts with goalie first. Norm Maracle wasn´t the answer along with the slew of other guys like Dafoe, so I have no problem with drafting Kari. I am with “ksiujgth” that I was ecstatic when I heard some of the names mentioned in rumors for a Kari trade only to weep when nothing went down. But considering no one here including myself had an ounce of faith in Pavelec at the beginning of the season, so be it.

The Earl of Bud

November 4th, 2009
8:00 pm

Brendan, I have a hard time buying that Rick Nash story. Why would Atlanta be so hungry for Nash when the previous 2 years they already drafted left wingers Kovalchuk and Heatley? Doesn´t it make sense we would want someone else besides another left winger?

Jimbo

November 4th, 2009
8:47 pm

Brendan – Where in the world did you come up with the Nash Fantasy? At the time that we drafted Kari, knowledgeable hockey buffs applauded our finally getting a goalie who had NHL skills. With few exceptions, successful teams have built from the goalie out. Our retread strategy, Norm, Damian and Lord Byron simply didn’t fly. It was interesting to me listening to the Canadian broadcasters talk about the exceptional play that Pavelec had shown in Canada in the World Juniors. They seemed to see it as a logical development for him to become a big time NHL goalie. The one thing that he has over Kari is control of rebounds. Kari fights them. Pavs gloves them. Pavs recent performances are a perfect example of how a hot goalie can carry a team. Let’s hope that he stays on this hot streak.

Nat

November 4th, 2009
9:02 pm

Jonathan, thanks for the info about atdhe.net. It’s very cool — and free. They play all kinds of live sports. The Chicago Wolves are on right now.

The Earl of Bud

November 4th, 2009
10:02 pm

Jimbo, great, I forgot about Rhodes. But the Canadian commentators (English, not the Frenchies) were talking about how Pavalec was barely giving up many rebounds. In some games before I seem to remember him giving up more, not the big juicy ones Kari gave up, but he definitely has great control now.

KLS1

November 4th, 2009
10:07 pm

Brendan is right, but we wanted Bouwmeester or Lehtonen. Knowing we weren’t going to get Bouwmeester under either situation, we agreed to the sweetened pot and took Lehtonen at 2. Rick Nash was not what we were looking for then with Heatley and Kovy already on the roster. It wasn’t a bad deal if our goalie had actually worked out…Lord knows we needed one.

LAC

November 4th, 2009
10:20 pm

Kinda rekinles the idea waddell is NOT a good GM and does not do positive things to greatly improve the team. He’s a nice guy no doubt, but remember… Nice Guys Finish Last and waddell’s record proves that theory very very well.

stendec

November 4th, 2009
10:42 pm

Kari Lehtonen should be behind bars for theft! The LaLa Land inhabitant misrepresented his injuries to the Thrashers in order to secure a contract! Those funds could/should have gone to make this team better. Not to pad the bank account of a fraud who never will be worth a damn! Know knuckleheads who follow team will never admit I was right about this untalented loser. BUT I WAS! Will root against Thrashers when/if this lying scumball ever goes back between pipes. Sori Letemin apologists can f#ck off! Go Thrashers. Peace. ++STENDEC

Brendan

November 5th, 2009
12:21 am

Oh, for sure, a draft is best summarized in ‘hightsight being 20/20.’ But that’s not what I did. I presented what actually took place. Where did ‘fabricate’ anything?

Fact: Florida owned the 1st overall pick.

Fact: Atlanta owned the 2nd overall pick.

Fact: Columbus owned the 3rd overall pick.

Fact: Kari Lehtonen was the top-rated Goaltender of his draft year. And was considered to be a ‘Top 3 pick.’

Fact: Don Waddell received ‘inducement’ to not take Bouwmeester at 2nd overall to allow Columbus to pick Rick Nash 1st overall.

Fact: Don Waddell used the inducement to select Jim Slater, 30th overall.

What ‘fantasies’ did I cook up? The top 3-rated prospects were Bouwmeester, Nash, and Lehtonen in 2002. It is not factually inaccurate to suggest that Atlanta had the option of either drafting Nash or Bouwmeester, depending on who Florida selected 1st overall. Or traded away at 1st overall. If Florida makes the trade with Columbus, then we’re FREE to select Bouwmeester, 2nd overall, because that (#2 overall)was our draft position.

What I have always said is, “Goaltenders take 5 years to develop, generally-speaking.” And, in the interests of conserving the requisite development time,’ I thought, back in 2002 as I do now, that the best options were to take whatever skater wasn’t taken 1st overall. I don’t think that seats me in the “Kookville” section of the seating chart. Goalies, that is proven commodity netminders, are almost always available every blessed year out on the Free Agent market. You just have to be willing to foot the bill for what they cost. In 2002, Hasek “un-retired,” and Curtis Joseph was placed on waivers by the Red Wings. Cujo had 2 more years, at WHOPPING $8 million each, left on his deal. It wouldn’t have cost Atlanta anything … but the cost of his contract, to obtain him as a waiver claim. Between 2002-2004, these goalies became available on the free agent market, Evgeni Nabakov, Dominik Hasek, Cujo, Ed Belfour, Arturs Irbe, and Nicholai Khabibulin. Did any of those goalies need 5-years to develop??? Allrightee, then.

I do not advocate drafting a 17-18 year old goalie, with expectations of placing him, that Fall, into the NHL starting lineups. (This was not Waddell’s intentions, either. He knew Kari was years away from being ready.) I guess maybe Tom Barrasso did that. But that’s the exception, not the norm. If, at pick #2, the best available skater were Rick Nash, then that’s what I would support. If need be, I could always trade Nash later on. And had Atlanta selected Nash, the lost of Heatley would have been very much softened. Why wouldn’t we want “depth” at the LW position? If, instead, the option were Bouwmeester, it wasn’t as if we didn’t need blueliners back in 2002? I saw Central Scouting rank Bouwmeester the #1 prospect of 2002. Now, I hear ya, if you’re saying, “But Brendan, he’d take YEARS to develop, too.” You’re right. No argument. Blueliners take longer than forwards to develop, generally-speaking. But goalies take even longer than defensemen to develop. So, I’m fine with Bouwmeester. That said, I’ll reiterate, if picking a goalie were really the objective, in 2002, I would have selected Lehtonen. Why? He was the top-rated goalie. It’s hard to argue with what Central Scouting universally projected as the top goaltender pick. Was the draft … the best way … to get immediate help in net? I suppose, if you believed that Kari was the “goaltender of his generation,” then the answer could be, “yes.” But you’d also have to believe that he was READY to make the jump to the NHL quickly. And I don’t Waddell really saw Lehtonen as “fast solution” to the problems Atlanta was having in net.

Tim

November 5th, 2009
12:28 am

Stendec, I’m sorry that Kari Lehtonen raped your sister… and your mother… and your girlfriend… and your dog… your father?

Kari is much more technically sound and much more athletic than OP. When he’s on, he makes it look way too easy. OP never makes it look easy. OP battles like Moose but takes a year and a half to get off his face and lets in softies that make you pull your hair out. OP will be a great 2nd goalie for Kari IF Kari can ever stay healthy. I admit that that is a great big IF.

How anyone can say that OP is a better goalie is beyond me. Being pushed by OP could make him a great goalie. I’ve always thought that Kari would be well-served by being sat every 4th game… for his head and his body.

If Kari can’t get healthy this is all a mute point. This latest surgery is actually encouraging… it seems as though they may have found the source of his pain and hopefully he can put this behind him.

Lastly, accusing people of lying and fraud without any proof is a dangerous and slippery slope. Of course, President George W. Bush did plan the 9/11 attacks at the behest of the oil industry. WWNN

Brendan

November 5th, 2009
12:47 am

Shifting gears into the present, Carolina got shutout tonight. And don’t look now, but they’re 0-7-3 in their last 10 games. That’s 10-straight losses. Toronto has the same number of points, with a game-in-hand on the Hurricanes. That means, tah-dah, the new LAST PLACE TEAM in the NHL is the Carolina Hurricanes. http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?type=lea#&navid=nav-stn-league

The Islanders are coming up on the Thrashers radar. Remember last year, when Waddell said, “Bad teams don’t win 5 games in-a-row in this league?” Yeah, well … if you did forget, I just reminded you. Segue, the NY Islanders put together a string of 4-0-2 from October 24th up until tonight’s 3-0 loss at Buffalo. Technically, before the Isles’ loss tonight, they were 5-1-2 for twelve out of a possible sixteen (12/16) points in eight games.

Are the Islanders a “good” team? Straight up, I think they’re 5-10. My conclusion? Nothing definitive, but I’d add that I’ve seen plenty of “bad” teams put together a 5-game winning streak over the course of an 82-game season. The Thrashers finished with 76-points in back-to-back seasons, and Atlanta managed to establish a new franchise record for consecutive wins last year, at six staight.